Newcastle Squad Tired – Pardew


Alan Pardew talked about how tired his layers were after the win at Aston Villa on Tuesday night, and certainly Moussa Sissoko was tired when he came off after 79 minutes at Villa Park – after a tremendous first half display.

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Moussa Sissoko – put in good shift on Tuesday night

Sissoko, Gouffran and Yanga-Mbiwa were thrown in at the deep end on Tuesday night after only being at the club a few days , with the first two starting the game, and Yanga-Mbiwa coming on after 79 minutes in place of Moussa.

Alan Pardew talked about some of his players being tired:

“When you make your debut away from home in a pressurized situation like that, the adrenalin takes it out of you as well.” “It takes it out of your legs and there was a bit of that going on for Moussa. With that under their belts, the new boys will be better for Chelsea.”

“There has been a lot of tiredness in the camp because it was a heck of an effort at Aston Villa.” “However, the lads found the effort and the work-rate is much more advanced than in France.” “There were lads feeling stiff and awkward, but we still had plenty of time to recover and the extra day on Chelsea.”

Yoan Gouffran also played a good 74 minutes and showed skill and movement up front – and Yoan looks a good buy for the club.

That was only Newcastle’s second win in the last seven league games,  but only the third win in the last 14 league games including the loss at home to West Ham on 11th November.

So it’s small wonder we are in 15th place in the league table, and we need as many wins as we can get in our final 14 games of the season.

It would be nice to get our 3rd win in eight league games tomorrow against Chelsea.

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283 comments so far

  • 89Norcal

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #1

    I would like to see Mbiwa start. I know Saylor was good last game but I think Mbiwa is more talented as a defender and leader in the backline.

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  • Twatter

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #2

    Repost from last thread:

    @boater, of course it’s all very true… but I still think Ba issued out a massive blow when he left the way he did in January, knowing full well that we’d struggle to replace his goalscoring mite. Had he left in the summer I might have felt a bit different about him and the situation surrounding his departure. As it stands I can definitely understand the animosity if it is forthcoming, which I reckon is most definite whatever the score happens to be at the final whistle.

    On the Manchester United debate, Alex Ferguson has the stability and command of the players in his arsenal – that’s something both Benitez and Mancini clearly do not. What is best about the way Manchester United operate is the fact that they have been able to build changes over a sustained and lengthy period of time, therefore keeping the wage bill down and not having this massive influx. Stability is what both MCFC and CFC miss to a lesser and greater degree respectively. This is what makes it easier for Manchester United to achieve with inferior squads.

    To say they’ve got a “weak” squad though, that’s B.S. Look at their strikers – Rooney, Van Persie, Hernandez, and Welbeck. Probably the best pool of strikers in the league. They still spend a hell of a lot of money too.

    I don’t believe Alex Ferguson is the tactical genius that some might proclaim. Whichever way you want to flip it, I think most would agree he’s a red-nosed bully and a top-class kernt.

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  • Dannyo

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    Comment #3

    The squad wasn’t tired Ed, but some of the frenchmen were.
    Like Moussa and Gouffran. They were clearly worn down after the first half.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #4

    Man Utd have 3 decent striker, but the rest of the team is distinctly average.

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  • t00ntime

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #5

    Demba ba did nothing wrong imo.
    1) he is Selfish by nature like many (not all) top strikers. ba wud always rather take a shot then assist, its been like that his whole career. He wasnt putting himself in the shop window.

    1.5) he was payed for goals, his wages were low (for a football player) unless he scored. Therefore he became more selfish cause if theres a chance of earning double his money i’m pretty sure he is going to take it (but that wage thing is a rumour thats why its 1.5)

    2) Ba left to chelsea. Yes he is getting paid higher wages but, think about it. Do you really believe the only reason ba went to chelsea was for money? Imo no. CL(next year probably), more chance of trophies, more chance of goals. The 3 main reasons i think he went to chelsea.

    3) we bought him for 2mil (agent). He scored 30+ goals for us in 1.5 years. Weather we were a stepping stone or not he did his job and did it well.

    The only things that were bad was the time he left (though he left early we had time to replace him. So wont complain about that)+ when he left he said something disrespectful things but i’m not going to complain about that either cause all i remember him saying was: its easier to play here with world class players around you.
    Now that sounds bad but its true chelsea have more creative players hence they are 3rd we are 15th.

    I dont say clap for him but theres no need to boo. In football players leave your club, it happens. I dont want our fans to become like arsenal fans. They boo/hate rvp+nasri+clichy+cole+fabregas for leaving. All the players said they left for trophies, arsenal fans said for money. All those players have won trophies (apart from Rvp who is on the verge of winning the league)
    Dont get me wrong they get more money. But imo like ba that was not there only reason.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #6

    Repost from last thread

    Toon Prodigy

    The problem that Pards faces with regards these types of fans is that he can never win them over. Not even if we managed to do the one thing that no manager has ever managed to do since 1969; win a trophy.

    Even if he managed to do that, there would be some element of “fans” who would claim that the success was down to the quality of the players rather than the manager thus depriving him of any credit. But these self same people would be the first to point the finger at the manager if the results were to go pear shaped which begs the question, how can it be solely down the the players when results go our way and then solely down to the manager when results go against us?

    That kind of mentality smacks of vendetta and nit picking against the man in charge, using and abusing what is said and done to fuel the grudge they have against him.

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  • mattnufc

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #7

    I won’t be booing Ba.
    Won’t understand why others would…

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #8

    Krul
    Debuchy Saylor/M’Biwa Colo Santon
    Anita Sissoko Cabaye
    Marveaux Cisse Gouffran

    Subs- Elliot Perch Saylor/M Biwa Haidara Jonas Obertan Shola

    That would be my team however this the team I can see Pardew playing-

    Krul
    Debuchy Saylor Colo Santon
    Perch Sissoko Cabaye
    Gouffran/Marv Cisse Jonas

    The main weakness in that team is Jonas. We all want him to be dropped but I just can’t see it happening. With Hazard suspended and possibly Mata and Cech injured we stand a decent chance of getting something from this game.

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  • northernirishtoon

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #9

    Boo the shit out of him.

    It’s not to say he was here 5 years and always gave his all bla bla bla

    He was here 18months.

    I still the think the club could and should have done more to keep him especially if we offered 10m for the likes of pea and rvw. But he showed no desire to stay hence boo like fcuk

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #10

    Toontime

    Without going into an immense amount of detail I thoroughly disagree that Ba left for anything other than grubby intentions and that he deliberately didn’t look for team mates due to the fact that he was looking to put himself in the shop window.

    He didn’t care about our club, nor about us as fans, with his dicky knee he was chasing the money. Those types of players are ten a penny and I do not want to see a player of his attitude grace our club ever again. He has talent, granted, but he failed to grasp what an honour it is to grace the hallowed turf of SJP.

    Take the quote from Mbiwa the other day when he said he walked into SJP and was amazed by it, and how much he looked forward to seeing 52,000 screaming Geordies. He could have stayed and won trophies in France but he wanted to come here and get us back where we belong.

    Therein lies the difference.

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #11

    i really want goofy to bang a few in now and show what a quality “striker” he really is.

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #12

    Toontime @5
    Good post. I will neither clap or applaud him tomorrow.

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #13

    i boo because he’s no longer a toon player (plain and simple) got nothing against the lad so i will be cheering and chanting us on when we have the ball and booing the hell outa all the chelski squad when we dont have the ball 🙂

    i see nothing wrong with helping the team put pressure on the oposing team to get the ball back

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  • beefman13

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #14

    SuperMagpie, that is the team, we have everything in there, pace,skill,strength, scoring ability, creativity, defending, set play success (wow)!!!!

    At the Cathederal get at it from the start, our crowd are the best 12th man in the country when we are on the front foot.

    We can give chelsea a proper fright if we go for it, we all know though that wont be the team, such a shame, we are missing such a trick.

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  • Lu-toon

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #15

    Repost from last thread

    Northern Irish.

    You forgot to add Howard Web to Fergie as the difference.

    Seriously though, Man Utd have an incredible front line, no doubting that, but their midfield is s-hite, as is their defence.

    Your right though, the difference is Fergie, the past seasons he just knew that when they went on a run of poor form, fluency wise, he would just flood the midfield and nick results, this year he has the forwards and just out scores.

    On paper now, surely we have a better midfield and arguably defence than Man U. Lets see what Pardew can do with the arsenal of players he has now

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #16

    Ruddy
    While I agree with what you have said, most players are like that.
    It’s his loss (or not) that he doesn’t get to play in front of 52,000 fans every fortnight.

    However,I think the timing of his departure was very selfish. We were struggling and needed something to lift the team. He then leaves us and we are without a goalscorer as Cisse wasn’t exactly firing on all cylinders like he was last season.

    But, if a team who are currently European champions, consistently in the CL and challenging for other trophies come calling then then there isn’t much choice. Money was still a big part in it and he wouldn’t have went if he didn’t get the right amount for him. I just think that there are many different ways to look at it.

    It’s all done with now and we’ve had a great transfer window so hopefully he won’t be missed. I just hope he doesn’t score tomorrow like former players usually do against us.

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  • stretchintoon

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #17

    Boo Ba by all means,he doesnt play for us anymore but be serious guys you cant blame the bloke for leaving a struggling club to go to a club thats playing champions league footy,challenging for the prem title and getting paid more money…its a no brainer.

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  • Krul to be Kind

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Comment #18

    prodigy @218 in last thread

    that was so well put, a lot of folk take Pardew’s statement at face value instead of trying to understand the psychology behind what he intends to construe, instead said ‘fans’ jump on the thats out of order bandwagon when quite simply the guy is a fantastic man manager, i do believe his tactics can be a little negative at times but he can only play with the hand he is dealt and that hand has been restricted for most of the season for one reason or another.

    Simply put when he said about not getting the striker in and people are saying thats not fair on goofy need to see the bigger picture…

    as a competitive individual myself in every aspect of life be it sport or work, i take that and understand it as a challenge, not unfair criticism…

    these guys are handsomely paid professionals and they wouldn’t be there if they were of weak mind, and if they are they shouldn’t be anywhere near the PL never mind the toon!

    These guys are a different breed of people to the average joe (on most accounts anyway)

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  • 89Norcal

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Comment #19

    I see sense on both sides.

    In the end Ba’s life is his alone and he has to do what he feels he needs to reach his own personal goals. Football careers only last so long.

    On the other hand he did seem selfish especially towards the final few months. We might have got him for a deal compared to his value but still the clause and his snakey agents led me to believe he had ulterior motives.

    We took the chance on him and allowed him to revive his career after all. He started off in lower divisions and now he’s with the European Champions.

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  • Krul to be Kind

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Comment #20

    and that man management record has been raved about by most of the team

    most notably HBA, one of the more difficult individuals to manage!

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #21

    Super Magpie

    Of course his timing was selfish, the man is as selfish a player that we’ve had and by God we’ve had some of the worst mercenaries through our doors.

    I’m glad we’ve got rid of him. Aside from his goals he was a destructive force in the side, dictating where he played and single handedly dragging down morale. AP should have took a tougher stance with him but being threadbare up front in terms of options I suppose he had to keep his “star” striker happy until we eventually got rid. We have enough about us to stay up which will see us through until the summer. In the summer I can see us signing the striker to replace Ba.

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  • Lu-toon

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #22

    S I S Sisko I say S I Sisko to the tune of D I S C O

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  • 89Norcal

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #23

    stretchintoon

    Yes was going to add that Ba left for more money and glory. It’s not as if he rejected a better offer from us to go to a lower side. If that were the case he’d deserve every insult thrown at him.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #24

    Ruddy, “aside from his goals” we would now be bottom of the table.

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #25

    K9

    We need to sign these 6 players in the summer in order to progress:
    Alderweireld
    Douglas
    Belhanda
    Sulejmani
    Gomis
    Benteke/Bony

    PLEASE give us a break from transfer lists and football by numbers – the window only shut 20 hours ago

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #26

    Yo-Yo Kets lists are hilarious but he also forgets we already have 14 overseas players named in the squad 15 next season as santon will no longer be classed as U21 . Not much room for more foreign players without shipping a few out.

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #27

    Ruddy

    It takes two to tango and I’m still not sure that Cisse did his bit to get the pairing to work with Ba – though undobtedly Ba missed a lot of simple layoffs when Cisse was better placed for a strike. Okay so Papiss is a bit more limited in terms of being an all-rounder.
    Its going to be real interesting if Gouffy can build a partnership with Cisse. IMO a striker double act is always greater than the sum of its parts.

    Maybe striker bonuses should value assists and goals equally to encourage partnerships to develop.

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  • check the toastie

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #28

    Ruddy – totally agree with you regards Ba, the man was a self trimmer, wathcing him shoot from anywere and ignore Cisse boiled my piss.

    Good points well made, my very interesting friend.

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  • Lu-toon

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #29

    That was meant as S I S Soko

    For some crazy reason I must have had xisco on the brain

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  • 89Norcal

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #30

    We could do with some English players anyways now.

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  • Krul to be Kind

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #31

    lu @22

    the last time that was used was for Xisco… lets not put the scud on Sissokho… lol

    I like it though! 😉

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #32

    Check the man who brought us that we never missed Jonas while he was out. Well we conceded 13 goals when Jonas was out and not babysitting Santon.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #33

    100% agree.

    Once you hate on someone to that extreme, then your buoyed to back up that outlook and that is what is being witnessed on here.

    We know Pardews not amazing, but for some it’s taken to the absolute extreme on this blog.

    I can take knee jerk comments after games, especially if we are on the wrong side of a win. But not a day or two before a game. Thats where you find this extreme I mention.

    This is a time for support and uplifting comments.

    Big game tomorrow.

    100% agree Krul,

    Gouffran knows he is wanted here. These are professional people amd they are rewarded handsomely your right.

    Right, im off for a few beers!

    Catch yas later on, and apologies for any drunken comments later.

    The wkd is here! Have a goodin lads

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #34

    100% agree Ruddy*

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #35

    “Your just too good to be true,can’t take my eyes off Mapou,he’s got a lovely 1st touch,i wanna hug him so much,at long last love has arrived,and i thank god i’m alive,your just too good to be true,can’t take my eye’s off Mapou”,DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA.

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  • niafron

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #36

    Bonsoir messieurs.

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  • north_country_boy

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Team for tomorrow:
    KRUL
    DEBUCHY COLLO MBIWA SANTON
    PERCH ANITA
    SISSOKO CABAYE GOUFFRAN
    CISSE

    SUBS: ELLIOTT, TAYLOR, JONAS, OBERTAN, MARVEAUX, SHOLA

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  • Lu-toon

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #38

    Krul

    Your right, fair point

    You must have some memory though to remember that was used when xisco played…lol

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  • Krul to be Kind

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #39

    mojo @35

    quality stuff lad keep ’em coming

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  • 89Norcal

    Feb 1, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #40

    Toon Prodigy

    Have a few for me, I”m out of beer.

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