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Pardew – QPR Not Financially Viable – Unlike Newcastle

2:13 pm, Friday, February 1st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 235 Comments

We’re pleased that somebody has mentioned the ridiculous financial deals QPR owner Tony Fernandez is doing in each transfer window – in an attempt to keep QPR in the Premier League – as the owner pays way over the odds in both transfer fees and wages – like the £80K/week he paid Loic Remy to get him to Loftus Road – because that’s the only attraction for top players to join QPR, who have the smallest ground capacity in the Premier League of just over 18,000.

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Tony Fernandez - when are these crazy financial deal going to stop?

And after criticizing players at QPR who were being overpaid and were simply average players at best, manager Harry Redknapp seems to have had a change of heart and has been in support of the QPR owner paying out huge wages to both Remy and Samba – who joined QPR in January.

The Financial Fair Play rules introduced by Michel Platini, the President of UEFA a couple of years ago, and were supposed to have European football clubs balance their books within the next couple of years.

And they were supposed to stop these suicidal  financial deals by football clubs spending money the just don’t have, but they seem to be having minimal effect so far, as PSG is another good example of a club acquired by Billionaires, who are spending money like it’s going out of style, and heaven knows what wages David Beckham is being paid by the Paris club.

Obviously Tony Fernedez is putting his own money into the London club – because QPR simply cannot afford the wages and transfer fees being paid out,  given how little money they must generate in both gate receipts and commercial deals.

Alan Pardew has talked today about losing Loic Remy to QPR – and he suggests QPR are simply not viable financially – and he’s right about that – and everybody knows it too:

“When we lost out on Remy it was pretty evident we weren’t going to get a big striker.” “They are pretty difficult to get over the line.”

“You look around and nobody apart from Remy has really moved – maybe Danny Graham, but I don’t think he’s at that level.” “I think that’s something we will look at in the summer.”

“You always want another striker!” “I want Man United’s position – Van Persie, Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck. That would be nice. But we haven’t got that.”

“Financially, we’ve done our business.” “You know how we work here. It’s not like we are QPR when the owner is putting in his own money. That is going on.” “But they don’t look viable some of the deals they are doing. We are viable, that’s what we do.”

One thing Newcastle found out four years ago was that when players are only at the club for the money – when push comes to shove in games at the bottom of the league table, they tend to disappear in games when the going gets tough.

That may not be the case for QPR, since Harry Redknapp and his coaching team are very good coaches, but when players are signed on big deals and also have escape clauses put into their contracts should QPR be relegated – you wonder just how committed some of the QPR  players are.

QPR can still escape the drop of course, but they need to start winning games, and the commitment of some of their players may be a little worrying for the faithful QPR fans.

But I suppose we’ll find out soon enough.

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235 responses so far ↓

  • 1 rainrix // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    2nd

  • 2 Spahndirge // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    repost

    @Transfer Sage
    Yeah, I partially agree with that.
    Eventually I would like to see Ben Arfa in the CAM role, which I think also suits Marveaux the best.
    The problem is then that we cant play all of Tiote, Sissoko and Anita, but I do think anyone of them would do a great job beside Cabaye as a DM.

    I really like the idea of Cabaye and Sissoko swapping places as DLM and CAM during the game tho.

    And who the hell do we play on the wings?

  • 3 martoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Alan, what about Ba from Newcastle to Chelsea was that not a striker transfer?

  • 4 matias // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Hopefully Yoan Gouffran don`t mind us not signing a big striker.

  • 5 Lynxie // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Harry Floppychops Redknapp stated that managers were ruining the transfer window by turning it into a war zone (or something similar). I fully agree candle bracket, if managers werent so underhanded and devious, it would be a better world. If managers didnt go spouting off about other teams players release clauses etc…
    What a hypocrite, wobbling his melty face about whilst berating others for a lack of morals.
    I eagerly await his next diatribe stating the need for more vigilant dog ownership, to prevent hounds opening offhsore bank accounts to store £180,000 of untaxed earnings………….

  • 6 Lafferty // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    nufc 2-cfc 1

  • 7 Joe Blog // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Such a hapless motormouth. How’s that going to make Gouffran feel, who has near 1 in 2 over the past few seasons? AP is such a dullard.

  • 8 Lynxie // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    On thread: I hope many of you noticed the first 45 minutes, how the ball up to our strikers stick like glue and posession retained at a very high line, putting Villa in a world of pain. Top marks to Gouffran, who has shown immediately what we have been m,issing for a long long time, a forward with immaculate first touch. I now expect high things from the lad. Ditto Sissoko, who could turn out to be the signing of the decade, after Cabaye and Tiote. (Still got some way to go to beat Rob Lee like…)

  • 9 estechco // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Given the resources and time that ol’ floppy chops has had, I am not sure he has any excuses for not keeping QPR up…and I don’t believe he will!

  • 10 rainrix // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    By the looks of things pards is gonna use gouffran on the side of a front 3 anyway instead of the classic striker role. I know pards says stupid things a lot of the time but some of you guys will find any excuse to have a dig at him.

  • 11 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    off bbc site

    The only absentees are the injured Hatem Ben Arfa and Cheick Tiote, who is on duty at the Africa Cup of Nations.

    Juan Mata is an injury concern for Chelsea after suffering an ankle problem against Reading in midweek.

    Petr Cech and David Luiz remain doubts with calf injuries, and Eden Hazard completes his three-match ban.

    Looking good, we just need to have belief and play with focus.

  • 12 Dannyo // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Peeps!
    Go here and vote, and if you just want #NUFC up and ahead, vote Sissoko ;)
    We’re currently 2nd.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/poll/2013/feb/01/best-signing-january-transfer-window-poll

  • 13 t00ntime // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    1) AP was talking about big strikers moving who newcastle had a chance of getting. (so not ba)

    2) I dont think gouff will give a f*ck cause he was brought in to play on either wing. He can play as striker but that certainly wont be his main postion here as we play 4-2-3-1 and cisse is our main ST.

    So dont have a dig at him for what he said here, because he is 100% right with what he said.

  • 14 Ian Magpie // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Sorry to change the thread a little lads but just thought i would mention that the Safe Standing roadshow is at Newcastle tomorrow! To all those who would like to see what is being proposed and give an example of how they stand in Germany have a look for yourselves and try it out. if this gets the goahead (NO REASON WHY IT SHOULDN’T) it will transform the atmosphere in our ground to the way it use to be……….DEAFENING! and safe too! Imagine the whole Gallowgate as a large safe standing home end similar to what they have in Dortmund!! The mind boggles! At the very least it will give fans an option and a choice which we currently don’t have and will remove the risk of being thrown out or spoiling someones view for those who want to sit! Fingers crossed!! http://thenortheasthub.com/blog/newcastle-fans-safe-standing-roadshow-2nd-february-2013/

  • 15 t00ntime // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    @ts hba is still a major miss. But if they are missing their 2creators and luiz+cech we have a good chance imo. The way we are playing I wud take a draw though. But if we play well we cud get more (cant see it like)

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    t00ntime

    Anything can happen tomorrow….I think it will be like the liverpool came with carroll returning last season.

    Ian

    Yeh thats a great thing to go see….if people search google there is an official petition to sign to try and push it through parliament.

  • 17 Blaydon-Toon // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Also no mosses so they will have a lack of natural width …. Maybe we can exploit that with our forward thinking fullbacks !

  • 18 Shane // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Our only absentees are Benny and Mr T??

    Umm, Raylor and to a lesser extent Gosling??

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    shane

    they would both struggle to make the bench now though.

  • 20 Joe Blog // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Perch for Anita (his acceleration will be an asset against Ramires’ bursts, his harrying and encouragement of a high tempo, better serve us at home than what Perch offers) and Jonas for Marveaux (no real explanation needed, Jonas is in a rut, perhaps burnt out as he isn’t even able to cover as much ground this season and stilts our attacks).

    I’m going 3-1 Toon, confirmation of our resurrection! At least I would be, if Pardew wasn’t in charge to obstinately pick the same team, as most think he will.

  • 21 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB8Y59ZCAAE6hM5.jpg

  • 22 Shane // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Raylor would make my bench! Gosking definitely wouldn’t.

  • 23 joe // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    About getting all our midfielders to play together, we could actually utilize a diamond in midfield now that our fullbacks are good enough to be the sole providers of width.

    What do you guys think about that? Anita at the base of the diamond to be our playmaker, protected by Tiote and Sissoko with Cabaye at the tip of the diamond. Up front we could have Ben Arfa + Cisse. Cisse can stay central while Ben Arfa drops to the flanks to give additional width.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    did anyone see the news simmo was down at the DW stadium in wigan last night?

    meant to sign a deal until we upped the fee at 10:45pm and wigan pulled out of the deal.

  • 25 SuperShearer // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Jo, nice idea but Tiote has to be the protector surely, with Anita and Sissoko feeding their natural passing ability up to the front three. It also means that Debuchy and Santon would have to be working their socks off every game, getting forward and tracking back with almost every eb of the game.

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Joe

    That could work nicely

    I think i’d rather see tiote at the base of the diamond though. Sissoko driving as one of the two with anita spraying passes around then cabaye at the tip as you had him.

    Then have gouff and cisse upfront. Benny could play tip of the diamon too with a free role and one of anita and tiote be dropped.

  • 27 No Plain Saylor // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    ” heaven knows what wages David Beckham is being paid by the Paris club”……………
    NOTHING ED! Every cent of hIs would be wages goes to a children’s charity.

  • 28 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Dear Robin

    Its your democratic right to spout whatever you believe but if it crosses bounds then it deserves to be censored. I stand by that.

    Perhaps I did over react to Alf’s words but at the end of the day those words are abhorrent and there is no excuse. It is also highly ignorant and offensive to me and many other bloggers.

    Lastly, is it not a bit cowardly to call me names when I’m not even present on the blog? Now who’s the child……………….

    You may wish to censor your reply with some maturity if you are capable that is.

  • 29 joe // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Also I dont understand why so many ppl are pinning for a 20 goal a season striker. Every team obviously could use someone like that, by in my opinion it would be much better to actually distribute goals within the team. Every player should aim for 5 goals a season in my book, with the striker aiming for 10. In that way our team can be less reliant on one single player which also makes it easier when injuries hit!

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    I’d like us to us wide men either side of cisse though.

    Pep Guardiola said even his barca side struggled to create and find room when they dropped their wingers as teams crowded them out too much in midfield (thats even with having 2 very attacking fullbacks like they do).

    So I think we need width (ben arfa and gouffran) to stretch the play and free up more room for the central players.

  • 31 Twatter // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Just seen the bad news that both Mata and Cech are back for selection tomorrow. Turnbull is a dodgy keeper so he’ll probably be dropped and we all know what Mata can do to us.

    Would like to say that we’ll win but can’t see it now. I’ll go with 2-2 draw at beast.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Joe

    What you need to be a top side is a player who gets you 20+ goals, a player who gets who 10-15 and then the rest of the team chipping in with 2-5 goals really.

    Cisse could be out 20+ man when in his rightful position with the service we now have fore him.

    Gouff could be the 10 goal guy then others can chip in like sissoko, benny, cabs, mav

  • 33 Transfer Sage // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    twatter

    Thats a shame, could really have done with those missing from the game.

    BBC got my hopes up by saying they we doubts.

  • 34 joe // Feb 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    TS

    Either way would work, but I actually prefer a Pirlo type player at the base of the diamond who can dictate play from deep. In that way our other midfielders would know that there will always be a player they can pass back to should they come under pressure who will not lose the ball.

    Also, I think Tiote would benefit from a more advanced position where he can use his natural energy to press the opposition, as his game should be based around his work rate and energy. Not sitting in front of the defence babysitting them as positioning is not his main strength is it?

  • 35 joe // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    If you remember the AC milan team of the mid 2000, you might recall Pirlo at the base, being protected by Gattuso and Seedorf ahead of him with Kaka at the tip. I’m not suggesting that our players compare to that midfield but God did they play some amazing football!

  • 36 Shane // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    To be fair, we are only financially viable If we remain in the premier league…

  • 37 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    and hba isnt starting

  • 38 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    TS
    You are absolutely correct about our need for width. Although Benny does like to come in from the flanks he has the ability to run the line as does Gouffran from what I saw at Villa from the first half.
    But as soon as a team presses up against us we are nullified. So width is important…..so its a shame we just could not have finished the window with 1 more signing.
    On the basis that we survive the drop, I think the final touches to our squad can finally be completed with AP having a great squad and team at his disposal capable of winning some silverware.

  • 39 Spahndirge // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    @joe

    that might work out nicely.
    Our Pirlo would for me be Cabaye, with Sissoko and Tiote/Anita as protectors.
    Pirlo really didnt do much defensive work tho, so tiote, anita and sissoko would have to cover for debuchy and santon.

    Or maybe have cabaye as DLM, tiote and anita as protectors with Sissoko as ACM and benny with a free role to roam the attack

  • 40 bollance // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Surprising so many were satisfied by the business we conducted in transfer window after losing our top scorer.

    But we spent a lot and have a significantly stronger squad. We will play the majority of games with 5 in midfield so we only need 1 striker. With luck Cisse stays fit for the rest of the season. The strong midfield we now have will supply Cisse the bullets. Plus against villa it was clear in 1st half cabaye and Sissoko go forward. Both could be a goal threat.

    Krul had a good game too. The solider looking defence will hopefully mean that if we score we will take 1 or 3 points from now on.

    Pards prides himself on following mourinho’s ideology of going a goal up then consolidating. Currently we make too many errors to pull this off. Errors equal goals conceded. On paper we have a better team then most so we almost need to go toe to toe and out punch. You could argue we tried that vs arsenal. Didn’t see man u match but understand we were very positive. We need to be more Keegan than mourinho

  • 41 t00ntime // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    According to chelsea Mata and cech are fit for saturday

  • 42 belgrade fan // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    What about Luiz?? he is injured

  • 43 Beardosfacedouble // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    I see pictures of ropey Rebecca have been replaced with adverts for wedding rings.

    Anyone here want to own up?

    Must admit, she didn’t look the white-frock-chasing type, but there’s no telling…….

  • 44 dinosaur // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    has anyone noticed that Papiss Sisse often hasn’t scored because his shots go directly at the goalkeeper. The same exact thing happened against Villa, but he was lucky that time as the ball squirted through the goalie’s legs. That’s something he should fix, along with discovering a thing called the offside rule.

  • 45 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    I prefer it when our team is offensive in our play. There are plenty of goals in midfield and the games at Emirates and OT proved that. Sissoko is immense and I have a very strong feeling the lad is going to be a toon legend!

  • 46 surreytoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Chin up.

    Mata anc Cech (plus Drogba) played against us last May was it at Stamford Bridge and what was the result there?

  • 47 Iain Dowie // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    I would personally play Jonas for the simple fact that he will get back and cover santon, even though he doesn’t offer much going forward he will always put a shift in defensively and seems to be one of our only leaders on the pitch.
    Krul
    Debuchy-Coll-Taylor-santon
    Gouffran-cabaye-siss-perch-Jonas
    Cisse

  • 48 belgrade fan // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Luiz??

  • 49 UpTheRoad // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Hi lads, long time reader of the blog. Would appreciate feedback on my own view of the ongoings at the club!

    http://www.theyoungernolan.blogspot.com

  • 50 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    either 433

    krul
    deb-saylor-collo-sant
    sis-cab-anita
    goofy-cisse-marv

    or 5-3-2

    krull
    deb-saylor-collo-mbiwa-sant
    siss-cab-marv
    goofy-cisse

  • 51 DokToon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    spread @ 27

    agree with you wholeheartedly sir… alf took to bashing me, but a bully behind a keyboard… isnt much of a man, imo…

    im thinking toon 2-1, late goal by cabaye nets us three big points…

  • 52 t00ntime // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    @dino he played the offside rule perfectly against villa.
    I disagree about his shots, against reading he had 4 shots
    1 straight at the keeper (a volley on the turn)
    1 into the crowd
    2 to the left of the keeper, both times he made a great save.

    Against villa the keeper had his legs wide open, nut megging him was probably the easiest way to score. Imo if we keep feeding him he WILL score, he has scored 7this season and half the season he has been RW. He wasnt getting many chances up until reading.

  • 53 belgrade fan // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    D Luiz will miss match. superb news. I hope my country man Ivanovic ll again make several mistakes. I think Mata will start on the bench.

  • 54 Unbelievable Tekkers // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Judging by the Villa game and also Pards comments regarding Sissoko and wanting to utilise his energy and power he will be the one just behind Cisse. I do think that Cabaye is probably better there than he is deep but I think Sissoko behind Cisse and Cabaye slightly deeper is best for the team. I think it will be then up to Anita, Tiote and Perch to battle it out for that 3rd slot. Whatever he chooses from now on we have plenty of options in regards to what roles our midfielders play.

  • 55 Tsunki // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Ha ha Sissoko up to 22% of the vote on that poll now, funny thing is Scumringland’s signings are getting 0% and 1% respectively.

    I think Pardew has finally settled to the fact that his attcking midfield is the way to go as in the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal. Expect a large share of goals to come from the likes of Cabs/HBA/Marv and I don’t discount Gouffran as being used as a behind the front man striker, I think he will cause some problems there.

  • 56 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    DokToon
    Agreed. If you have a difference of opinion then that’s all good to voice it and rationalize one’s argument.
    Calling people names, being racist and acting in a manner purely to antagonist and upset others is not acceptable.
    Anyway back to the footy, I’m hoping for a win tomorrow, hope our new signings get a real rush @ SJP! HWTL

  • 57 rainrix // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Tekkers…. I think thats how we played against villa. It was strange almost a straight line in midfield

    ====================Perch========================

    ===================Cabaye========================

    ====gouffran========Sissoko============Jonas=======

    It seemed to work actually sissoko did a lot of drifting as well getting on the wings and in the box. Of course its flexible as well, if we’re under pressure sissoko and cabs can drop back and help defend. Nice to have options for once :)

  • 58 Tsunki // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Tekkers – I’m not sure about that mate, I reckon he will be happy to let Sissoko bust his lungs running box-to box and lying deep to start. I think I would also prefer Cabs in front of him I think we would see an awful lot more of those type of goals at villa. If you remember when Cabs first started he looked a good shot and certain to score loads, but he got dragged back into the murky waters of aiding Tiote and ended up getting lukewarm reviews for his efforts. Sissoko is nowhere near as dependent as Cheick, so I expect a more free-running role for our Numero Quatre.

  • 59 Tsunki // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    DokToon / Spread – honestly, Alf, or rather billy/bob/ted/planb is a mackem WUM of old and only comes on here to catch the tired and unwary. Best skip over his comments there is never any value in them anyway so you wont miss anything.

  • 60 DokToon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    i might say to all the toon army that you all are fortunate that you do not have to get up at 730 am for the matches.. my neighbors are getting annoyed when i wake them up, yelling “go toon” an hour before the match in my backyard…

    HWTL…

  • 61 Tsunki // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Tekkers – oh and I forgot we have a bit more self-control in our CB’s now ha ha.

  • 62 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    whats this with simmo allegedly at the DW last night?

    for me there full/wing back Stam is twice the player simmo is but never gets the recognition, I would have loved to see him @ toon if we didn’t get Debuchy (but thankfully we did)… A very under-rated player bags of energy good in defence and brilliant at driving forward

  • 63 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    chelsea missing a fair few players :-) hazard/luis/terry ect ect just hope petre cheke is absent also.

  • 64 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Uptheroad
    Well, what can I say. I thought the banner was really cool and definitely shares your enthusiasm for NUFC.
    I read a few of the articles which were good ,imaginative and well written but possibly the articles were a bit too long. Try to make ‘em a little shorter and more paragraphs and I’m sure you’ll then be rivaling Ed in no time for volume of blog hits!

  • 65 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Tsunki

    Those cretins should never get under anyones skin

    Vive la blog!

  • 66 DokToon // Feb 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    tsunki @ 58,

    pardon my ignorance, whats a WUM? i am from the US… and thank you for the heads up…

  • 67 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    wum = wind up merchant

  • 68 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Doesn’t WUM stand for worthless ugly mackem then? I suppose the word mackem already implies the worthless and ugly parts.

  • 69 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    dok

    tsunkis aforementioned cretins just look for reactions from people and create a whirlwind of havoc when on the blog, there are a few more that may well come into that category but the names mentioned should do for now on who to avoid a conversation with…

    they are racist kids with tourettes

  • 70 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Tsunki
    Agreed, I usually do but when he decided to post a racist term on our blog – that was enough for me. I’m not sure who this “Robin” is but he seems to feel defending racism is acceptable IMO and then place verbal attacks on others when they’re not even on the blog. Such a shame you get people like that in life let alone our blog.

  • 71 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Ibiza

    not seen you blog much these days, is there barbed wire on your fence now pal? ;-)

  • 72 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Spread

    you defo done the right thing the other night when you reported the little schister… but be careful you don’t get tagged as blog police, you know how the guys react to authority! haha

  • 73 check the toastie // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Really hope Pardew gives Jonas a break, he is having a nightmare, he knows it and should be removed and given little sub appearances to get his confidence back.

  • 74 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Spread…Leave Robin alone, he’s one of me best mates :)

    Krul…I’ve been about, must have just been missing each other, which is odd as I’m pretty much on here most of the day…I’m certainly not just logging off when I see you pop up, that’s for sure…

  • 75 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Krul
    Both you and I seem to have been a target of “Robin” because we decided not to stand for it the other night when “Alf” stepped out of line. Anyway I think my post @27 may well have quelled it. Could take sometime for a response and no doubt it will be rude! How unique and clever that is.

  • 76 roblee7 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Would anyone else sign up Louis Saha until end of season as a back up? I know he’s an ex-mackem BUT would be best back up for either Cisse or Gouffran , better than the Ameobi’s anyway. Free agent now…probably a stupid suggestion but just had to get it off me chest :)

  • 77 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Ibiza
    As it’s your friend I’ll say no more! :)

  • 78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Check…Didn’t Jonas just miss a few games from injury? Can’t remember how many games though, maybe just Man U and Arsenal?

    To be honest, we have some depth now and players should be rotated and prioritised based on performance (within reason I guess).

  • 79 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    nee naw nee naw
    now then whats all this

  • 80 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    For me, Chelsea have the best squad in the league. Man City are a close second We have a better keeper, Defense and midfield than Man Utd. I’d say that our squad is on a par with Spurs at the moment and not far off Arsenal. We need to sign these 6 players in the summer in order to progress:

    Alderweireld
    Douglas
    Belhanda
    Sulejmani
    Gomis
    Benteke/Bony

  • 81 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Kets
    What’s with the shopping list man?! We’ve only just finished one window…..easy tiger :)

  • 82 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Spread

    I can’t wait to release some ready wit and charm on his god forsaken a$$ too!

    I missed it though all the same, maybe alf is robin after what i can only assume is an alternative username, can’t imagine Ed letting it go and alf still being able to troll the blog…

    It’s good to see most bloggers taking the same stance, maybe as fans we are united on something

    KICK IT OUT!

  • 83 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    I’m sure that we’ll snap up some bargains on free transfers. Douglas will definitely be one of our first signings. Gomis and Sulejmani are also worth a punt on frees. Belhanda will be £8m, Alderweireld £7m and Benteke/Bony £12m. Coloccini, Simpson, Williamson, Gosling, Shola and Tavernier will be shipped out.

    We’ll be challenging Chelsea and Man City for the title if the above business goes to plan in the summer.

  • 84 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Spread…Cheers, he doesn’t get out much, so I try to encourage him as much as possible to interact with people. Bless him.

  • 85 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Ashley has confirmed that he wants to sign 5/6 more players in the summer.

  • 86 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Krul
    Completely agreed 100%

  • 87 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    ROBLEE

    Howay with you and you silly ideas! lol

    In fairness though we should have bagged him when he was on loan years and years and years and years ago, I remember him scoring a very good goal against Blackburn in the cup for us… think it was his only goal though but we used him as a winger if i remember right!

  • 88 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Ibiza
    Any chance you could put him back on the leash then? LOL

  • 89 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    pardew out and Kets for manager, we would dominate the world! haha

    You do make me laugh Kets… in a good way most of the time!

  • 90 roblee7 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Krul – haha, i seriously would take him til end of season, probs wouldnt ever get a game but literall incase of injuries i think its a good shout and would be hilarious if he scored the winner against the unwashed when we play them :) he’s a geordie deep down anyway

  • 91 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Kets

    Agree Belhanda and Aldewield would be good additions. Another RB and a ST and I would say our business is done. I’d make that 4 players for the senior squad and then perhaps a couple for the development team.

    Btw does anyone know much about Kevin Mbabu? Is he a good player? Have not seen him play just that Man U were also chasing his signature…..

  • 92 Hatem's better than Messi // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Marv’s foot injury healed fast.
    A medical miracle or no buyers came in?

  • 93 John Tudor // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    he will cost little as payp

  • 94 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Afternoon gentlemen (and ladies if there are any present)

    Must say that I am thoroughly satisfied with our dealings this window, and I’ve gotten over the initial greed mentality that was crying out for an extra striker/LW.

    As for Pardew’s comments about not getting a “big striker” and all of those who jumped on it to say “how is that going to make Gouffran feel?” etc really need to stop nit picking at every word Pards says.

    From the way he utilised Gouffran against Villa it is pretty obvious that he is more than an out and out striker, in fact he spent more time out wide, but yes he can play up front too.

    So instead of moaning at the things Pardew says how about enjoy the fact that we’ve signed 5 first team players and a supposedly excellent youngster in this window?

    Perhaps it is asking too much.

  • 95 roblee7 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    krul – i was at that game and remember that goal like it was yesterday, never really understood why we didnt make the deal permanent at the time as i remember thinking he was some player. problem is, in his prime (probably at Fulham before he went to Man U) pace was a huge part of his game, now he’s 34 not sure how much
    he would have to offer

  • 96 check the toastie // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Ibiza – yeo Jonas did miss those games, he was not missed for sure, now we have a stronger middle of the park we dont need him standing on Santons toes, our DCM should be clever enough to cover either full back as they bomb on.

  • 97 roblee7 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    oh, Saha’s french as well :)

  • 98 check the toastie // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Boring Ruddy’s back trying to rule the blog with his condescending manner, one post, one lecture, oh my god, boring twat.

  • 99 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    roblee

    I too remembering him packing his bags and thinking we have definitely let one go there (not in the fart way) and fulham grabbed him for around 1m when we were quoted 3m

  • 100 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    @Kets

    Come on man, there is more to football than just transfers

    You must hate international football

  • 101 DokToon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    are there alot of fellows on here going to the match tomorrow?

  • 102 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Right Back? We’ve got 10 players who can play in that position:

    Debuchy
    Santon
    Anita
    Mbiwa
    Saylor
    Gosling
    Tavernier
    Gutierrez
    Perch
    Simpson

    We don’t need a left back anymore as we have Santon, Haidara and Anita who can all play there. With Coloccini leaving, centre back is a priority to strengthen. We need 1 winger and 3 strikers.

  • 103 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    @75

    he’s also ex toon and yes i would sign him up if only on a 6 month basis

  • 104 lukes26 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Tony Fernandez is ‘only’ worth 400 million. That’s not much when he’s put possible over 50 million into qpr as yet.

  • 105 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    @Kets

    Come on man, there is more to football than just transfers

    You must hate international football

  • 106 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Ruddy

    I agree

    i believe Goofy will bee immense and ive been holding the torch for him since he signed (quite vocal on it too) think it really came under the radar…

    How i see it and how a motivated goofy would probably see it ‘is zat right boss, I vill show you!’

    the gauntlet has been downed!

  • 107 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    5 of them are naturally right-backs. It’s their main position. Maradona used to play Gutierrez at right-back.

  • 108 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Afternoon Ruddy
    I have not banged on about APs press statement. But you must confess it is clumsy, and not the first time.
    That stated the players do look unified if Villa was anything to go by so I think AP must have created some spirit which will have been buoyed by the welcome and overdue additions.

  • 109 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Kets on football manager do you only play during the transfer windows then put yourself on holiday the rest of the time?

  • 110 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    fray

    I too hate internationals

    (ireland = crap)

    and usually a fortnight of no toon games! lol

  • 111 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Check…Surely that’s somewhat debatable? Never conclusive, but pretty sure we had major defensive lapses in both of those games and I lost count of how many goals we shipped. Yes they are both good teams and maybe Jonas wouldn’t have helped, but I think there is a strong argument to suggest otherwise.

    Also, do you know what’s more boring than a Ruddy post? People who just say he’s boring and dismiss him before entering in to a debate about an issue.

    Spread…Afraid not, he’s a biter :)

  • 112 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    @Krul

    Same here, i can’t stand England

    The only time i watch England is during World Cup’s and the Euro’s (If we get in them) to be honest

  • 113 roblee7 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    croftus5678 – i think on a 6 month contract, we could do alot worse – lots of experience – win win for me

  • 114 Munster Mag // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Its a big acid test for Pardew now, in terms of choosing Guti, Perch, Marv etc. He definitely has a defensive philosophy – and it can clearky be seen in how unaggressive we are ( Everton at home was amazing ) when we lose the ball, because he is so concerned with getting 2 banks of 4 behind the ball. This is partly why we ended up kicking the ball long so much – and having guys like Willo and Simmo didnt help in that regard. I see Marv as a better CAM attacking option that HBA to be honest. He has much more “heads up” vision. Super player if played right, although the Prem league may not be the best place for him. Finally re acid tests, many of you will know how I lambasted Ashley and Llambias all sunner long and until now about failing the acid test of ambition back then in the summer. Well fair play guys, cos you really passed it now. Very comforting for supporters – just dont go doing anything silly now like relocation St James cos it might make up 5 mill a year or something….

  • 115 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Don’t bite off more than you can chew Toastie ;)

    Back to football related matters, was looking at that guardian poll about the best signings of the transfer window and read a few of the comments. It is shocking as to how many people think that Sturridge to Liverpool could be considered the best deal of the January window.

    a) He hasn’t been prolific at any club he’s played for (albeit he had a good spell at Bolton when he had sustained playing time)

    b) His attitude has regularly been shown to be atrocious.

    c) He has shown a total unwillingness to play on the wing, which for Liverpool would be necessary to allow rotation of Suarez, Borini etc.

    All for the grand sum of £12m? Coupled with the Samba deal I would rate Sturridge’s move to Liverpool as one of the worst of the window, even though he has scored a couple of goals already.

  • 116 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Sorry Ibiza
    I am a little dyslexic, was that biter or bitter? :)

  • 117 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    i dis agree saha was utter rubbish when he played for us >.< he had speed but looked like a lost sheep when he played.
    his best days were at manu but he still has the presence of an ameobi but with more motivation and atleast he can score a lot more then ameobi could.

  • 118 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    fray

    we get a euro/world road trip every 10 years or so… where’s Jackie Charlton when you need him

    probably flyfishing the life out of our rivers still, he does have the key to the country though, but no irishman in there right mind would say anything bad about him!!! lol

  • 119 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Spreadthetoon

    See that’s where I would be inclined to agree with Krul to be Kind on this issue. Instead of seeing it as a clumsy statement, it could be a subtle ploy to rev up Gouffran. A key element of signing players these days is understanding their characters. Pardew would not have said that if he thought Gouffran would kick up a stink and react badly.

    If Gouffran takes to the field and bangs in a few goals to show AP that he is the “big striker” we need, then I am sure AP will gladly eat a slice of humble pie, although I think Pards knows Goofy will react to his statement in the right way.

  • 120 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    if you miss out scumderland he has a good goals to games ratio http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=16124

  • 121 papattack // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    ————–krul—————
    debuchy–saylor–colo–santon
    ——–cabaye–perch———
    marveaux–sissoko–gouffran
    ————–cisse—————-

    subs: elliott jonas bigrimana williamson mbiwa shola sammy

    would really like to see this team, the squad looks so uch heathier, to think we still have ben arfa and tiote to come back is pretty epic.

  • 122 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Ruddy, i am highly delighted at our winter transfer dealings, but he continually tries to cover his back, he does it at least once a week, this week how he was going to play marv but he isn’t now, he has an excuse for everything, and why put negativity in to the gouffran situation with his so called harmless comments, i get my back up with him beacuse for the last thousand weeks he manages to say something to get my back up and yet again this week, so i will have a pop as he pisses me off every week, i actually prefer the owner massivly over our manager, he always seems to dig a hole for himself does pardew.

  • 123 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Ruddy
    I think Sturridge was a good signing though I think the best signing of the window was Sissoko by a COUNTRY MILE. I’d have had no trouble with Sturridge here, he has bags of potential. He’s got a few rough edges but who hasn’t at that age.

  • 124 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    right guys

    was a brief visit from me but ill be back late with a case of becks and arthiritic fingers around 9

    Ibiza, be there or be square you little fence sitter ;-)

    I’m going on a crusade again against the neggars, all help welcome! haha

  • 125 roblee7 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    croftus ….wouldnt say he was utter rubbish, he was just a young’n and showed signs of promise for me, certainly had more promise than a young shola. also, to this day i always felt sorry that Ameobi was given endless chances for us and Chopra got like 5 games or something….i know who the better player is / was! reckon if Chops had half the chances Shola had had with us, he’s still be here now

  • 126 hatemorloveit // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Guys, i just got slaughtered by my mates about my views about Beckham,…but dont you think its a little inappropaite to tell the whole world that your salary is going to charity? I mean isnt charity best done in secret? if you publicise it, it kinda sends the wrong message about why you are doing it….what are your views on this?

  • 127 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Spread…Perhaps a bitter biter?

    Munster…Absolutely. It was late, but I think the board have done a really good job this winter, I hope they don’t take their foot off the pedal in the summer. On Pardew, it would seem he has what he needs to progress, so it’s up to him now to show us what he can do…again :) I’m not expecting the same style as many other posters I get the feeling, but first things first, get some confidence going and some points on that board!

  • 128 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    We have new signings, bloody play them.

  • 129 papattack // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    saha is past it, thats why he’s been released. over the hill players got us relegated so no more thanks.

  • 130 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Beefman

    Depends on how you look at the situation I suppose. Surely if Goofy reacts to Pardew’s statement by scoring goals, then Pardew’s statement has had the desired effect has it not?

    Also, we don’t know the specifics about players injuries and whether they are fit and able to play in certain games or not so I wouldn’t put that down to Pardew making excuses re Marv.

    Perhaps people are looking for holes in his statements because of the fact they already dislike him?

  • 131 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Ruddy @118
    I think that’s also a fair comment and a balanced argument. Its hypothetical so neither of us know. Lets hope he does react and bags himself a brace along with a couple of assist tomorrow!

  • 132 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    munster

    agreed HBA is a talismanic individual with oodles of skill but little vision, but marv see’s things others aren’t aware of, cracking little player!

  • 133 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Krul…Sorry, I can’t side with a racist. That is unless you’re sharing the beer around? Take it easy mate.

    Hatem…We had a similar debate on here, I have no issue with Beckham or how he handled the situation.

  • 134 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Spread

    Well the proof of the pudding re Sturridge will be whether he fits into that system, rotates positions at times and most importantly whether he scores goals or not. I just happen to think that in order for him to be seen as a good piece of business he has to prove that he was worth the money.

    However, with regards Sissoko, he automatically should be seen as excellent business as he is a full France international who we nabbed for less than 2m. The same can be said about Lewis Holtby I suppose too. Those 2 deals have to be hands down the best pieces of business.

  • 135 papattack // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    hatemorloveit

    the whole beckham situation is just PR, fairplay hes donating his wages but he’s hardly going to miss them. the amount he earned at galaxy alone would have set him and his wife and kids and probably his kids kids up for life.

  • 136 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Sisssoko, Mbiwa, Debuchy and Haidara were the best signings of the transfer window. Sturridge is ok, but he’s not better than Ba or Cisse. Not sure about the other Liverpool signing. Remy was a good signing for QPR, Samba was too expensive. Arsenal spent too much on that Spanish left back. Even Man Utd could do with 8 or 9 new players. They should’ve signed Sissoko, Mbiwa and Debuchy.

  • 137 hatemorloveit // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    I mean does anyone actually know what the name of the charity is? You cant even say that he is giving the charity publicity, he didnt even say what the cause was for. If i know that ppl are gonna praise me for giving all my money to charity, that surely is an incentive to do it. I just dont think ppl should brag about the good thins they have done. Show me a person who gives to charity quietly, and ill show someone who is not concerned about whether he recieves praise or not

  • 138 SuperShearer // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    @SpreadTheToon Sturridge is 23. He’s not exactly a youngster anymore. Rough, he’s a good player but if her was nearly as good as he thought he was then he’d have all manner of clubs falling over themselves for his services, not to mention the huge wages he’s on.

  • 139 boater // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Kets – You seriously think we only need 3 new strikers in the summer? Imagine if we got injuries to our then 6 senior strikers – we’d be well short. Doesn’t bear thinking about.

  • 140 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Hatemorloveit

    Whether it was a PR stunt or not, surely we can praise the fact that a modern day footballer with the status of David Beckham who could easily still command a salary of 100k a week has decided to give that sizeable salary to charity.

    Maybe he does want the credit for it too but it doesn’t disguise the fact that it’s a gesture that not many top players would make, despite the fact that all of them could.

  • 141 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Just my own view on the matter though.

  • 142 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Ruddy @ 140…. Would this be the right time to use a LOL? ;)

  • 143 hatemorloveit // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    I obviously praise the fact that he is giving his wages to charity, but on the other hand I do not think he should have been the one to reveal it. surely the PSG president could have said, ‘ David didnt wanna tell you guys this, but his salary is going to charity’ . if ppl find out, fine, but dont go out of your way to tell people that you are doing it

  • 144 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    @kets

    So i suppose you know better than Wenger do you?

    And yeah Man U really need 8/9 players don’t they? sitting 7 points ahead at top of the league

    Go back to football manager you crazy person

  • 145 hatemorloveit // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    yeah and ofcourse i repsect your view btw

  • 146 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Ibiza
    A bitter biter…..wow I hadn’t thought of that……….that’s even worse best I go! :(

    Ruddy
    Quick note before I go….not sure I agree with your last statements re: Sissoko, Holtby, Sturridge.
    All of them are internationals…..agreed? Well irrespective of the case, an international does not necessarily make you a good player and is not a good bench mark.

    Le Tissier was probably one of the best strikers I have ever seen to grace our pastures and yet he never made it as an international.

    As for a player proving themselves, the world of football is fickle to a certain extent.

    A striker has only worth if they score goals and lots of them. They are rarely recognized by the fans for any other attributes……….tackling, tracking back, passing….even assists to a degree. So Sturridge has a much harder task to prove himself as a player to that of Sissoko or Holtby.

  • 147 Munster Mag // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    I actually think pardew is subtle with his announcements Beefman. I have to say, he has peddled some stupid excuses recently to cover for himself or the team ( Cisse/ Senegal was classic ) , but he’s on trial now. I have no doubt that Marv will NOT start tomorrow…..

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Ibiza

    Did it appear that I was being somewhat ironic by little statement? Well wouldn’t want people getting the wrong idea about me…

    Hatem

    As do I respect yours lad. I can see where you’re coming from and charity should always be given in private if it is truly to be a selfless deed but I still see it as a massive gesture on Beckham’s part. I couldn’t see some of the other big name stars donating 5months worth of wages to charity, given the fact that in Beckham’s case it is probably in the millions.

  • 149 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Hatem…At the end of the day, I don’t think it matters which way it came out, people would still think it was an engineered link from Beckham.

    He’s giving them money, great. If people react to that by then wanting to buy in to brand Beckham, fine. I really don’t see the issue, it happens all of the time.

  • 150 Munster Mag // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Re Sissoko, people just dont know him. Otherwise he would be the buy of the season.

  • 151 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    On the Beckham thing, i would imagine he has way more money than 99.9% high profile footballers so has more cash to splash

    Definitely a PR stunt as otherwise why would you use your wage as amount rather than just giving money out of the limelight, so although its good that he has given to charity, its a bit tinged in my opinion.

  • 152 EastEndMagpie // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    maybe mad, but wonder if pards would consider gong 3 at the back as an option?

    ————– Krul ——–

    ——M’biwa–Colo–Taylor

    Debuch–Sissoko–Anita–Santon

    ————– Cabaye————-

    ——-Goofy———Cisse——–

  • 153 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Spread

    Should have probably qualified the fact that both Sissoko and Holtby are Internationals for their respective countries given the fact that they are both excellent players. I just took the easier avenue of making that point that one could see their standards due to the fact that they are regular internationals for both France and Germany.

    You’re right though, being an international doesn’t make you an excellent player, but in the case of both Sissoko and Holtby I do think they are excellent players which is why I think they are both excellent signings for us and Spurs respectively :)

  • 154 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    I have always been pro the regime at nufc, we did not strengthen enough to go further forward, but i always believed we would still be top seven, injuries aside i still liked our squad enough not to get that down about it, since the season started to go pear shaped he has blamed everyone but himself, and especially dented the younger players confidences but keep on playing the idiot senior players who he stuck by and stuck up for, his action in picking on the younger and quieter members of the squad sickened me throughout this season, picked on the ones he could get away with it with. Pardew for england!!!!

  • 155 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Supershearer
    I think Sturridge is a good player but perhaps his arrogance will be his downfall. Some people could and may have said the same about HBA before he came to us……so I guess it’s an even see-saw….time will tell :)

  • 156 EastEndMagpie // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    may seem defensive but technically could allow debuchy and santon to get forward tons more

  • 157 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    @beefman

    “dented the young players confidence”

    Which member of staff are you at the club like?

  • 158 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Ruddy….Have you made it to China yet?

    Only on the wind mate. Shocked? I thought you would be.

    Spread…Until next time, keep up to date with your vaccines.

  • 159 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Spread

    Re Sturridge, surely his price tag along means he has a lot more to prove than Sissoko and Holtby? Sturridge is a striker (apparently) and has made many noises about playing down the middle. He has moved to a club where he will play down the middle (apparently) and if he still doesn’t score goals, which is a striker’s primary objective, then he has to be seen as a failure.

  • 160 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Ruddy
    I ‘d still have taken a punt on Sturridge but probably would only have offered Chelsea €6m

    Laters

  • 161 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Spread

    I agree, at the right price I’d have taken a punt but not at 12m. Laters lad

  • 162 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    What you on about, he bullys the ones he can get away with it with,

  • 163 Spreadthetoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Ibiza
    I’ll try not to froth at the mouth then………………………….mraahhahahaha arrroooooouuuuughhhhhh, arrroooooouuuuughhhhhh

  • 164 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    @beefman

    Seriously?

  • 165 DokToon // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    east end @ 151…

    mad, mad, mad, mad, mad… :)

    dont see it at all… good thought though…

  • 166 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Telling the younger kids there not up to it when over half the seniors he plays are shite beyond belief he is a frigan coward.

  • 167 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Spread…Friday frothing…standard. Take it easy.

  • 168 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Beefman

    I really don’t think he bullies anyone. Some of the younger players (Fergie, Sammy and Abeid) have simply not been good enough and that needed to be said.

    With regards the senior players, well I would rather have Jonas in the XI than Sammy every day of the week and twice on Sunday and the same applies with Shola over Nile Ranger. He likes Jonas because he works hard, just his end product has lacked massively this season, and I don’t think anyone can doubt that the Mackem slayer is an excellent impact sub.

    Other than those 2, who are the senior players he has been backing and sticking up for?

  • 169 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Beefman

    Over half the senior players he plays? Which would indicate 6.

    Which 6 players in the starting XI have been “shite beyond belief”?

  • 170 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Beefman…Whilst I agree he has not been overly critical of the senior players, I don’t think he’s been that harsh on the kids at all.

    I think it’s more acceptance that they should have been out on loan and aren’t up to the challenge yet. That isn’t to say the seniors have been either, but when discussing the younguns I don’t really disagree with what’s been said by Pardew.

  • 171 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    @beefman

    Ah right! you don’t work at the club knowing the ins and out of the younger players, their fitness, their confidence, their awareness to tactics etc. Your just making up a little story to amuse your unreasonable hatred for Pardew, got it now

  • 172 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    I have it on very good authority that he does not ever have a pop at the seniors and that he tore a strip of the youngins v bordeaux and brighton, yet the seniors were easily as bad in those games, he didnt sat a word, i wont say how i know apart from it was one of the younger members of the squad who was there. Who i know personally.

  • 173 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    @124

    yep chopra was our big hope at the time and tbf he did well when he did come on it was just we liked to spend millions on strikers then instead of trying what we had out.

    but saying that we could say the same now when we still have cambell and if we do sign another high profile striker in the summer cambell will drop a place in the team untill shola/ranger or another one of our 2 atm go.

    i would love cambell to go on loan to spl though as i think he would score plenty there to get his confidence up for 1st team footy.

  • 174 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    I really wonder why i come on here sometimes?!

  • 175 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    @Beefman

    How old are you?

  • 176 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    On the the “I’ve a reliable source….who works in the canteen” comment from beefman I think I will call it quits for this evening.

    See ya lads!

  • 177 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    To be fair not one senior stepped up to the plate this season apart from demba with his goals, cisse willy simmo obertan colo jonas perch all seriously out of form and have performed terribly in most games this season, including colo who has been near his relegation season form, do you think ant seniors have stepped up to the plate then, not one of them have performed to the level of last season, benny has been canny when he played, even krul has been inconsistant with hoodballing tactics causing the ball to come straight back at us.

  • 178 fray bentos // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Ive just realised im having a discussion (sort of) with a young kid over the internet!! i had better stop or this could be looked at in the wrong way

    Goodbye

  • 179 WWYCD // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Beefman
    The senior players are proven the kids are, to be nice, not

  • 180 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Just a final point, our younger players (not youngsters as they are 21/22 now) have not been anywhere near the standard we need them to be. Fergie is too lightweight, Sammy has been too lazy, Abeid is too slack and against Brighton was terrible.

    Only one youngster, and he is a youngster, has performed this season and that has been Bigi. The guy was given an opportunity and he has grabbed it with both hands. I feel sorry for the guy because he won’t get near the team for the rest of the year.

  • 181 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    anita/santon/marv/cabaye have all done great jobs all the time in senior players obv other players have off days and can not do it all the time !

    i think you mistake people on this forum for calling people who played rubbish ! its not because we think they are all together rubbish its because we know they are a hell of a lot better players than what they performed at on that day.

    e.g. perch (to pick a squad player) had some games earlier in the season where i shook my head at him all game but against villa i dont think he put a foot wrong and improved the team a hell of a lot.

  • 182 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    I put the blame on our season before the transfer window firmly in our crappy managers doorstep, his formations and team selections have buggered us up and the injuries are included in thar comment, we should be no where nearr were we are in the league, with our squad, totally blame him for it negative predictable stagnent tactics and formations. It may still go down to the wire unless he starts showing some balls and changing team aelections.

  • 183 Lu-toon // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Fray Bentos

    I think Beefmans age is that in his user ID

  • 184 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    @179

    could not have worded it better agree with you 100%
    all our youngsters apart from bigi are not good enough “yet”

    even my fave cambell who i always say put cambell on blablabla he’s better than ameobi (which is true) but its only because i have high hopes for him and in reality he would be a duck out of water on a prem pitch with no real competitive football experience.

  • 185 WWYCD // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Beefman
    Ur a cheerful soul aren’t u?

  • 186 JP...from The Rock // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Everyone complaining that Pardew says these things will put Gouffran off and this and that. These are the same fans that then complain Pardew has offered no explanation on as to why we did not replace Ba.

    It’s impossible for Pardew to win over these kind of fans. He’s just given you an explanation and now twist it up and say how that must make Gouffran feel ffs!

    Are you telling me that Gouffran is on the same level as Ba? Because it’s clear for me, Pardew and probably Gouffran himself that he’s not at that level yet.

    Now if Pardew would have come out and say that he thinks Gouffran will get the goals that Ba used to for us then I bet my left nut that you’ll complain that he rates him in the same bracket as Ba and he’s useless and that we’ll get relegated bla bla bla..

    FICKLE FICKLE!!!

  • 187 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    hehehe o.k. hands up those who said they will not boo demba ba tomoz !!!!!!

    benitez said “I will talk to him and he will give me the weaknesses and the strengths of each individual of Newcastle.”

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOL

  • 188 ToonDownSouth // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Pretty sure Ba was too busy shooting from 40 yards to notice any of the strengths and weaknesses of the rest of the squad.

  • 189 Lu-toon // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Croftus

    So convinced am I of a storming performance tomorrow, I think we will be to busy cheering Cisse’s goals to be booing Ba.

    But yes I would boo! Admittedly he was fantastic for us, but did not like his silence cometh every window that passed. I originally thought what a fantastic man we had on our books with his smiling interviews and strawberry syrup statement etc.. and basically he went and pissed on my chips, so yes I would boo but could understand for many reasons those who don’t.

  • 190 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Each team needs 4 top quality strikers. We’ve only got 1 top class 1 at the moment.

    Man Utd are an average team. The premier league isn’t as good as it used to be. They got beat by Ajax at home last season and drew with Braga 3-3 thisseason. We should’ve beat them with our reserve team out. They need to strengthen if they want to do better in Europe. Chelsea and Man City are miles ahead of United.

  • 191 saxonfenken // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    beefman13
    Change the record, one day you might just say something interesting. don’t bother answering this because I will just ignore it and all you new posts as well

  • 192 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Nine tenths of our season the senior players have played in the premiership and given us the worst start i can ever remember, the younger players on the whole have not been a part of our premiersahip campaign only very small bits.

    The youngins were much more prominent in the Europa campaign as we all know and we were unbeaten up to the last game, and there were still decent teams that we played in the europa, first english team to qualify for the latter stages, did any one of those youngins let us down in that campaign, i say no they did not, in fact they played easily as good as the seniors and fergie alone had three assists and still has the most from crosses for the club this season, jonas not one assist just huff, puff, fall over,

    It was pardew who put the blame at the wolfs door concerning the younger players while he let the senior ones get of with it, those seniors v brighton were abysmal and only sammy of the youngins had a shocker, he did not mention once santon getting done every time by lua lua, yet if tav had of been getting stuffed every couple of mins i guarentee he would have mentioned it, all to save his own skin.

    Yea i have flew of the handle today, got a lot of my chest, it was really pardew saying he was going to play marv v villa then saying he was keeping the same team that started v villa v chelseas tommorow that hit a nerve im afraid i could not control. it for me was pure lies about going to play marv instead of jonas, and beacuse of the way we sat back and invited villa on to us it is a miracle we got a point not minding a win, great first half, fluid and expressive, second half rabbit in the headlights, and negative, ok players were getting tired but christ they do this for a living, anyone see bradford the other week, some bloody part timers playing for god sake and they were fleeing around like wasps for 90 mins.

  • 193 Lynxie // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    croftus:
    So Demba Ba (stard) knows about Sissoko, Mbiwa and Debuchy does he? I think he may well do by five oclock tomorrow night………..

  • 194 Lynxie // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Christ I need a pint, I find myself almost agreeing with something kets has written, I must be losing the plot.

  • 195 Lynxie // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Chill kets, I said ‘almost’……..

  • 196 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Man Utd need 1 Goalkeeper, 4 new defenders, 2 central midfielders, and a left winger. Nani and Young aren’t good enough. Cleverley is a squad player. Carrick is very poor. Scholes and Giggs are getting old. Kagawa hasn’t done great so far. You could argue that they need another striker too as Welbeck isn’t prolific enough. Poor player. Anderson is poor.

    Can see United making a £15m bid for Tiote and a £20m bid for Cabaye in the summer. Lets hope that they don’t steal Toby Alderweireld from us.

  • 197 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    @192

    hehe yep all this is making me look forward more and more until tomoz now :-)
    best time to play them i think as we will see how close we are to them as a team now.

    dunno why but all of a sudden after last month i tend to think we are more than equal to anyone in the prem now :-)

  • 198 Dannyo // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Ba will tell Benitez how to beat NUFC?
    Think we’d put away a few more chances if Ba was tactically understanding enough that passing to your fellow striker who’s better positioned increases your chances of a goal.

    Can’t say I’m worried about that part.
    And we know Benitez will always be an “almost” manager. Plenty of chance to get something.
    With all the new players we’ve got surprise on our side too.

  • 199 hatemorloveit // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    IM DYING TO KNOW: WHAT RECEPTION WE GONNA GIVE DEMBA BA 2MORO?!?!

  • 200 Jail for Ashley // Feb 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Rob Lee,
    On Saha, it was talked about last night and its a go-er for me, somebody dismissed it as he’s no better than Ameobi, imo I think he’s a bit better than Shola and if Cisse gets injured then surely it’s better to have two Sholas instead of relying on one for the season.

  • 201 beefman13 // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    I wont have a single problem changing my story as long as our manager starts changing his snide ways, blaming anyone but himself, every week he hoys out the bully, when he stops the crap, i will stop the attack. simple as.

  • 202 Lu-toon // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    A 3-0 hammering. That’s the reception I think we will give him.

  • 203 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    @195

    yep agree manu are not the team of old no more youngsters coming through there ranks now as they pay 20mil odd for the young ones now and every season for the last 4 years i think they have got a tiny bit weaker each year !

    chelsea and manc are better teams imo player wise anyways its just manu have the nack of getting awarded a penaulty or a goal in the 94th minute of injury time ect ect when they do not play too well

  • 204 Jail for Ashley // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Beefman,
    I thought it was disgraceful when asked the other night what happened in the second half, he smirked and then said the French lads lost their legs.

  • 205 robin // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    I suggest fellow bloggers, choose your words wisely. As we are subject to microscopic type scrutiny by a rabid faction, who seek to hide their Pluerilism under the guise of Racism. These creatures posted some of the most obscene lanuage I have ever read. They claimed their filth was in responce to a derogatory word used by a poster called Alf. I hope you read the postings these cretins bombarded this chap with. And the way in which they used the Racism card to justify their depraved minds.

  • 206 89Norcal // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    beefman, Pardew has blamed himself a few times, most recently on subbing out Marveaux in the Reading game.

    So Chelsea are there for the taking then, and with Hazard gone Debuchy should be able to handle any replacement. I remember Hazard had it quite easy vs. Simpson in our 1st game at Stamford.

    I think Rafa’s lineup will also play a huge factor. Chelsea fans want Ba to lineup with Torres. Unfortunately I’m sure he will start Ba after the debacle vs Reading.

    But with Willo not playing my hopes are high :)

  • 207 Jail for Ashley // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    And who are you Robin ?

  • 208 ONLINE GUY // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Demba Ba Is a Mercenary..fact

    He only used us as a stepping stone..Fact

    Read his statement’s on joining Chelsea.

    NO affinity with Newcastle United ..Did not care..Fact

    Watch his final game for us ..totally played for himself ..Totally Ignored Cisse..even when Cisse was better placed Ba ignored him ..Fact.

    I think we should boo the hell out of Demba BA at every touch on the ball ..Childish I know ..but just use it as a tactic to help the lads ..Let Demba Know We Know .

    Now Im busy getting ready… my Lipstick is the wrong colour/shade…Iv got a ladder in my stockings and I’m in a bad mood ..best if I go sort my war paint out . see ya all later.

  • 209 croftus5678 // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    ner robin can not be alf as robin is using everyday language
    its not like he’s trying to put on a different way of wording things in his writing or anything :-)

  • 210 89Norcal // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    ONLINE GUY
    Hate to say it but I think you’re right.

    I guess I tend to remember all the good times with Demba :)

    But when you consider his release clause, style of play, and ignorance toward’s his own countryman, it’s hard to say he DIDNT use us as a stepping stone.

  • 211 boater // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    I’m with beefman. Post 181 is as good a summary of this season’s debacle as I’ve read on here. Plus sticking it into the kids smacked of scapegoating.. whilst very few of the senior players are publically scolded since he tried it with Ba.

    I’m not a massive Pardew fan as I don’t think it’s in the NUFC dna to see out the narrow victories each week he seems to crave. But I believe we need stability at long last. That doesn’t mean sticking with a terrible manager at all costs – it just means not sacking them after 1 bad (horrific in this case) run.

  • 212 Twatter // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    It was Demba who decided to go – it was his choice. He’s a proven mercenary (whether that’s a bad thing or not is up to you). I wouldn’t blame anyone for booing him, we were in such a bad state when he left us and we still are pretty f***ed up at the moment, have to say.

  • 213 ONLINE GUY // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Norcal

    His Agents went wild when Demba was benched one game ..statements to the press slagging the club and Pardew ..Demba BA was right on it as regard’s moving to another club ..that’s all he was looking for right from the start ..NO I have no Respect for him .as this was all planned from the start and when he was benched I can imagine Ba’s action’s and his conversation with his agents..The Agent’s then stirred the shit In the press ..Remember ?..Demba BA made that happen..Club slagged in the press on BA’s instruction’s to his agents when left out… once.!

  • 214 ONLINE GUY // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Offski Lads’ see ya all later.

  • 215 boater // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Players are all here for the sunny day love of the club, history and the amazing supporters until the big wagons ride into town.. then they’re off chasing the yankee dollar. T’was always thus. We need to attain success if we want the top players to stay.

  • 216 89Norcal // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    ONLINE GUY
    Ya I remember, no coincidence one of his agents his his brother isn’t it, just looking out for themselves. anyways seeya later on.

    boater
    That’s what I’ve been saying too. I was afraid if we sat still for a 2nd window, we’d get offers for Hatem, Cheick and who ever else and they’d be on their way.

  • 217 northernirishtoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Can’t believe I’m gonna say this but I completely agree with kets and the quality of manures squad. Chelsea and city have by far better squads.

    I think if united bought sissoko, mbwia and debuchy they would all start. Even gouffran would have a chance

    The difference is Alex ferguson.

  • 218 Mister Tuff // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    robin @204
    Name names and justify your statement in respect of the people concerned individually.

  • 219 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    “Perhaps people are looking for holes in his statements because of the fact they already dislike him?”

    Ruddy,

    Thats the nail on the head right there.

    And some posters look for holes in tactics, holes in substitutions, and holes in press statements.

    I had a rant yesterday, and it was all to do with this kimd of rubbish. Pardew is being used as a scapegoat for our dire run of results.

    They feel we should have a better new manager who would have to take us to (fourth) by the way to be any better this season.

    Apparantly, then all of a sudden our results will magically overturn. Nothing to do with 6 months of rock bottom confidence & morale and a horrendous run of injuries coupled with shocking timing mind. And not strengthining in the summer.

    Then with this new manager, we magically start playing barca esqe football. Jonas gets dropped, marveux turns in performances like Ginola.

    And then the best part, this new manager will never make a mistake tactically, never says anything wrong to the press, and we produce amazing football week in week out. Whoever he is he’s some boy.

    Half the stuff in his interviews could not be anymore twisted. If i sat for long enough i could twist everything he says into something negative IF I wanted to.

    Haters. Complete bollox. Complete waste of time.

  • 220 Twatter // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    boater, of course it’s all very true… but I still think Ba issued out a massive blow when he left the way he did in January, knowing full well that we’d struggle to replace his goalscoring mite. Had he left in the summer I might have felt a bit different about him and the situation surrounding his departure. As it stands I can definitely understand the animosity if it is forthcoming, which I reckon is most definite whatever the score happens to be at the final whistle.

  • 221 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    ruddy

    @133 good point on the holtby signing, he could rival sissokho regarding quality for value!

  • 222 Twatter // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Alex Ferguson has the stability and command of the players in his arsenal – that’s something both Benitez and Mancini clearly do not. What is best about the way Manchester United operate is the fact that they have been able to build changes over a sustained and lengthy period of time, therefore keeping the wage bill down and not having this massive influx. Stability is what both MCFC and CFC miss to a lesser and greater degree respectively. This is what makes it easier for Manchester United to achieve with lesser squads.

    To say they’ve got a “weak” squad though, that’s B.S. Look at their strikers – Rooney, Van Persie, Hernandez, and Welbeck. Probably the best pool of strikers in the league. They still spend a hell of a lot of money too.

    I don’t believe Alex Ferguson is the tactical genius that some might proclaim. Whichever way you want to flip it, I think most would agree he’s a red-nosed bully and a top-class kernt.

  • 223 t00ntime // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Demba ba did nothing wrong imo.
    1) he is Selfish by nature like many (not all) top strikers. ba wud always rather take a shot then assist, its been like that his whole career. He wasnt putting himself in the shop window.

    1.5) he was payed for goals, his wages were low (for a football player) unless he scored. Therefore he became more selfish cause if theres a chance of earning double his money i’m pretty sure he is going to take it (but that wage thing is a rumour thats why its 1.5)

    2) Ba left to chelsea. Yes he is getting paid higher wages but, think about it. Do you really believe the only reason ba went to chelsea was for money? Imo no. CL(next year probably), more chance of trophies, more chance of goals. The 3 main reasons i think he went to chelsea.

    3) we bought him for 2mil (agent). He scored 30+ goals for us in 1.5 years. Weather we were a stepping stone or not he did his job and did it well.

    The only things that were bad was the time he left (though he left early we had time to replace him. So wont complain about that)+ when he left he said something disrespectful things but i’m not going to complain about that either cause all i remember him saying was: its easier to play here with world class players around you.
    Now that sounds bad but its true chelsea have more creative players hence they are 3rd we are 15th.

    I dont say clap for him but theres no need to boo. In football players leave your club, it happens. I dont want our fans to become like arsenal fans. They boo/hate rvp+nasri+clichy+cole+fabregas for leaving. All the players said they left for trophies, arsenal fans said for money. All those players have won trophies (apart from Rvp who is on the verge of winning the league)
    Dont get me wrong they get more money. But imo like ba that was not there only reason.

  • 224 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Toon Prodigy

    The problem that Pards faces with regards these types of fans is that he can never win them over. Not even if we managed to do the one thing that no manager has ever managed to do since 1969; win a trophy.

    Even if he managed to do that, there would be some element of “fans” who would claim that the success was down to the quality of the players rather than the manager thus depriving him of any credit. But these self same people would be the first to point the finger at the manager if the results were to go pear shaped which begs the question, how can it be solely down the the players when results go our way and then solely down to the manager when results go against us?

    That kind of mentality smacks of vendetta and nit picking against the man in charge, using and abusing what is said and done to fuel the grudge they have against him.

  • 225 northernirishtoon // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Boo the shit out of him.

    It’s not to say he was here 5 years and always gave his all bla bla bla

    He was here 18months.

    I still the think the club could and should have done more to keep him especially if we offered 10m for the likes of pea and rvw. But he showed no desire to stay hence boo like fcuk

  • 226 Lu-toon // Feb 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Northern Irish.

    You forgot to add Howard Web to Fergie as the difference.

    Seriously though, Man Utd have an incredible front line, no doubting that, but their midfield is s-hite, as is their defence.

    Your right though, the difference is Fergie, the past seasons he just knew that when they went on a run of poor form, fluency wise, he would just flood the midfield and nick results, this year he has the forwards and just out scores.

    On paper now, surely we have a better midfield and arguably defence than Man U. Lets see what Pardew can do with the arsenal of players he has now

  • 227 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Ruddy,

    100% agree.

    Once you hate on someone to that extreme, then your buoyed to back up that outlook and that is what is being witnessed on here.

    We know Pardews not amazing, but for some it’s taken to the absolute extreme on this blog.

    I can take knee jerk comments after games, especially if we are on the wrong side of a win. But not a day or two before a game. Thats where you find this extreme I mention.

    This is a time for support and uplifting comments.

    Big game tomorrow.

  • 228 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    prodigy @218

    that was so well put, a lot of folk take Pardew’s statement at face value instead of trying to understand the psychology behind what he intends to construe, instead said ‘fans’ jump on the thats out of order bandwagon when quite simply the guy is a fantastic man manager, i do believe his tactics can be a little negative at times but he can only play with the hand he is dealt and that hand has been restricted for most of the season for one reason or another.

    Simply put when he said about not getting the striker in and people are saying thats not fair on goofy need to see the bigger picture…

    as a competitive individual myself in every aspect of life be it sport or work, i take that and understand it as a challenge, not unfair criticism…

    these guys are handsomely paid professionals and they wouldn’t be there if they were of weak mind, and if they are they shouldn’t be anywhere near the PL never mind the toon!

    These guys are a different breed of people to the average joe (on most accounts anyway)

  • 229 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    100% agree Krul,

    Gouffran knows he is wanted here. These are professional people amd they are rewarded handsomely your right.

    Right, im off for a few beers!

    Catch yas later on, and apologies for any drunken comments later.

    The wkd is here! Have a goodin lads

  • 230 toonicle // Feb 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    I’m not sure it’s so much Cisse’s fault for being offsides so much, I feel like we just haven’t had someone who could make the passes to him quick enough to keep him onsides. That seems to be fixed with Sissoko and I think we’ll start to see a lot more goals and a lot less offsides calls from here on.

  • 231 Krul to be Kind // Feb 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    prodigy

    I’ll catch you at the ‘bar’ later, i too am off to see what offers ASDA have (other large chain supermarkets are available) and pitching myself up for some light entertainment tonight with some fellow enthusiastic toon bloggers whom are as excited as i to see the lads in the cathedral tomorrow!

    Becks and woodford bourbon for me though (more than likely) wkd doesnt put hair on my chest!

  • 232 JP...from The Rock // Feb 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    On Ba he was always a Mercenary. Anyone that could not see that should look back and it will become obvious. His insistence on a buy-out clause in his contract and the fact he did not want to extend his contract with us proves this. Add to that his selfishness around the 18 yard box and there you have your mercenary Ba.

    Though if I could make it to the game I wouldn’t boo him. He did give his all for us and we can’t boo players just because they have much bigger ambitions than others and opt to go to a Champions League club. That is childish and wrong. Someone I would definitely boo is Michael Owen! Now that guy would get so much abuse from me I would be banned from St James.

    If we boo an ex-player of our who was top scorer what kind of message would that give to Cabaye, HBA and co, or any spectator, they would think we blooming mad and delusional-again.

    We should be bigger than booing him and applaud him to show our class to the rest of the world.

  • 233 lesh // Feb 1, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Here’s the Guardian’s take on Fernandez’z stupidity in commiting QPR to massive and currently unstainable debt. You;ve got to question of him listening to let alone employing ‘onest ‘arry. he who put Southampton, Portsmouth, West Ham United and nearly Spurs before Levy woke up, into a preacarious if not near-terminal finsncial predicament.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/31/qpr-panic-spree-transfer-deadline?utm_source=premierleagueprss.co.uk&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=premierleagueprss.co.uk

    Look at the numbers, the cost of Samba and Remy. They’re scary and confirmation that we’ve done well to have Ashely at our helm. Like or lump it, he will ensue that Newcastle United’s around long after the likes of QPR have gone belly up.

  • 234 lesh // Feb 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    100% with you JP…..

    We should be bigger than booing him [Ba] and applaud him to show our class to the rest of the world.

  • 235 Sav // Feb 1, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Wasn’t Harry complaining that we had paid a load in wages to get Sissoko ahead of QPR? Can’t have it both ways ‘arry.
    And no, of course you aren’t a wheeler-dealer.




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