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Magpies Interested In Andy Carroll – Should We Sign Him?

11:07 am, Saturday, February 2nd, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 61 Comments

News today, which isn’t too surprising,  that Andy Carroll is a target of Newcastle in the summer, when Liverpool will try to get as much money for the striker as they possibly can – after signing the Gateshead-born striker from Newcastle for a cool £35M two years ago – almost to the day.

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Andy Carroll – at West Ham on loan

Andy’s stock has fallen a lot since then, and he’s been out injured for some months at West Ham with a knee injury, where he is on loan this season, and he has only one goal in 10 appearances for the Hammers.

Liverpool wanted around £18M for the striker last summer, but there’s no way he’s worth that much now – unless he goes on a phenomenal scoring run for the Hammers through the end of the season.

Certainly he has no future at all at Liverpool, after they signed Daniel Sturridge from Chelsea last month.

Andy has just turned 24, but whether he would be a good buy for Newcastle in the summer is debatable – even if they could get him for say £10M – because there are other more talented strikers available for around that amount on the continent.

Newcastle were even prepared to offer £12M for Andy last summer, after an initial loan back on Tyneside, but we’d be surprised if Liverpool can sell him for that much now.

Andy is on around £75K/week at Liverpool, and he wouldn’t get those wages at Newcastle – but as a local lad he may want to return to play in the black and white stripes of the club he’s supported as a boy, and of course he came through the youth ranks at Newcastle.

Should Newcastle Sign Andy Carroll For £10M?

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61 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Yes but not for 10m

    If we nabbed him for 6 maybe 7m and wages of aeound 45k a week then I’d be happy enough to have him around the place again.

  • 2 ashwin say's // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    ———-krull—————
    —–saylor,collo,mbiwa—–
    debuchy—————-santoon
    ————cabaye————-
    –marvo—sissoko—goufran—
    ———–cisse————–

  • 3 Rowan Milsted // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Hmm. I’m still hoping we get Pea or RVW but Carroll would offer us something else. He wouldn’t start every game so his wages would need to come way down and I wouldn’t want us to pay more than £8m for him. At that price I’d take him, reckon he could rediscover his form with us.

    But do we really want him? It’s possible.

  • 4 ashwin say's // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    we can have guidetti for loan with option to buy
    he is one hell of prospect….

    just saying

  • 5 Rowan Milsted // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    ashwin

    ‘mata,luiz,hazard,Obi Mikel and Victor Moses are absentees…’

    Really? I didn’t realise they were all out. You sure about that? Good news if you are!

  • 6 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Agree Ruddy, for the right price and wages I’d have him back. But certainly not as a No.1 striker which if he still feels he’s entitled to then it’s never going to happen. As a preferred option to Shola for instance.

    Anyway, hopefully catch you all later. HWTL!

  • 7 Hatem's better than Messi // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Pardew could use him on the RW.

  • 8 sirtoongospel // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    4 of them are but I thought Rafa said Mata was fit?

  • 9 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    A player of Carroll’s ability coming off the bench to do the job that Shola does seems like a tasty option to have doesn’t it? He’d even be able to start a game as an option if we wished to adopt a more robust approach rather than the relatively lightweight Cisse and Goofy.

    All depends on the fee and wages as I said though, can’t imagine he’d want to come back and be a rotation player though so I can’t see it happening.

  • 10 elpaso_geordie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    There are far better strikers around for that sort of money
    however,
    Under Pardew there is always going to be some hoofball so might as well sign the best striker suited to it. Hopefully getting Carroll will mean Shola only being used twice a season against the scum……..

  • 11 numba9 // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    big lad would be a good signing and is the type of player cisse would get goals off. andy is never gonna be prolific but he can help someone that can be

  • 12 Newguy // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    We are a different team now, different style of play. He would find it difficult to adjust. He hasn’t got speed or technique. He has presence and power. A fine striker, but not for us. And definitely not for that kind of money…

  • 13 BelfastMagpie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    I’d swap him for a mars bar, packet of crisps, and a bottle of coke, if Liverpool were up for it.

  • 14 magpie6699 // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    If we could get him cheaply (£7 million) then he would be a useful plan B – but I’m not sure I would always start him. He could also be a plan C – ie trying to get back to fitness after yet another injury….

  • 15 check the toastie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Dont mind Carroll signing, looking forward to Cisse playing right wing again, oh my god. Would like the lad to play CF for 90 minutes if that is at all possible Parsnip you f##king dope.

  • 16 El Sleeve // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    id take him back for 7 mill and wages of 35k a week. he was on 25k for 5 years so he’d just have to accept that is his standard and get on with it. maybe increase to 45k a week once he gets past 30 league goals.

    but there are better options available. RVW, PEA, Doumbia, Bony, Guidetti

  • 17 mindshaft // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Carroll is gash – half a good season for us and nothing since, he’s become a bit of a sick note on top of being a twat
    I dont think he’d bring anything to the team other than to get us playing hoofball
    I wouldnt have him for nowt to be honest, we can get better value for money elsewhere

    If he wasnt a geordie we wouldnt even be having this discussion – move on, he fooked himself over with his greed and can barely get in the West Ham team when fit ( not often I’ll admit)

  • 18 papattack // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    id have carroll back but only so that when we bring a big man on for our plan B of hoofball its not ameobi. nothing personal, sholas been a good servant to the club, but he just doesnt do enough for me.

  • 19 BelfastMagpie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    I would even throw in a pouch of Amber leaf rolling tobacco.

  • 20 veto // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    nah he’s going to spend more time on the bench than on a pitch during his career, one of those body that will just keep breaking down , that knee of his has already been through the mill .

    10 million .. lets grab one of the big african lads like bony

  • 21 JAMSHA // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    NOOOO….. BUT IF 5mil The Yes Plzzz

  • 22 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    3.5mill. 25k Wages.

    Thats about right imo.

  • 23 ashwin say's // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    sirtoongospel
    mata had ankle injury sustained in midweek
    but if rafa is saying
    then i apologize for wrong info ..

  • 24 Graeme // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    This post is nonsense – Luckypoo agreed the permanent transfer of AC to WHU in the summer, as announced on SSN at about 10 this morning!!

    West Ham are welcome to him, he is much more in fitting with the way FSA plays the game than he is here. Andy made his choices, get on with it.

  • 25 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Were did this report come from? Is it the same one where david gold confirms they have a deal in place for carroll already in the loan agreement?

  • 26 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    I voted “Not Sure”! Liverfool would be trying to scrape back as much of the 35Mil paid back two years ago!

    Is he even worth 10 Mil now? And i don,t think he could ever be seen to get back the No 9 shirt ? That belongs to Papiss now and rightly so, after last year!

    I think there are also much better players out there to be had for less money? Think i would take him back? But on our terms, and not on his?

  • 27 mindshaft // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    No chance – not even for nowt, he’s gash and a sick note to boot
    We did amazingly well to get 35 million for him so thanks for that but there are so many better options out there for less than half his wages

    If he wasnt a geordie would we even have this discussion – Carlton Cole is better than Carroll !!

  • 28 Toon_Tom // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    he will stay at West Ham!

  • 29 mindshaft // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    West Ham have first option to buy him for 17 million, they will not be taking up that option

  • 30 Rowan Milsted // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    According to chelseafc injury list only Romeu and Luiz are injured.

  • 31 croftus5678 // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    hmm

    carrol 10mil
    gomis free
    bony 12mil
    pea 12mil
    rvw 10mil
    bent prob 8mil
    saha free

    i can see better options and better value for money on that list.

    the state its in at the moment i would put him at grahams value before i would think of buying him.

  • 32 ashwin say's // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    BelfastMagpie

    dont raise price man ….
    if fools listen to your offer then they will do the deal
    and we would be in trouble!!!!

  • 33 BelfastMagpie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    West ham have agreed to buy him, but they don’t have any agreement with the player. So if Carroll doesn’t want to stay at West Ham, there’s ferk all Liverpool can do about it.

  • 34 ashwin say's // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Rowen milsted
    hazard is serving three match ban,
    mikel and mosses are off to acon

  • 35 papattack // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    mata and cech are back in training and available for selection. from benitez himself.

  • 36 WWYCD // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Yes why not? Its inevitable he will be back at some point might as well bite the bullet if the financials are right. Plus I think Cisse would lap up goals along side him

    He’s also not as bad with the ball as his feet as some make him out to be. Injury issues though but hey he’s a geordie we put up with Saylor because of that why not big Andy

  • 37 BelfastMagpie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    It would be wrong to bring him back in my opinion. If he doesn’t improve for West ham in the next couple of months, he could end up in the championship. Apart from a great 6 months with us, he hasn’t really looked like a premier league player. Way to injury prone aswell.

    No thanks !

  • 38 Lilongwe Geordie // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Maybe at 4million, but no more, and he would need to halve his wages. Distinctly average player, and we would be much better served looking elsewhere.

    We woukd be better off getting Le Fondre to come off the bench on recent showings.

  • 39 Munster Mag // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Croftis, I wouldnt tale Saha if he paid us!! I’d have carroll back – great option off the bench. And our corners might start to work! Carroll, Sissoko ( dont pick a fight with him Andy. You wont win! ) Mbiwa and maybe the big Dutch guy . Suddenly we might pose a “fret” as Pards would say!

  • 40 Rowan Milsted // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    ashwin

    Of course! What a plum :) Shame about Mata but otherwise good news. Oscar is a massive threat…

    We can’t afford to lose the battle in midfield today. I’m still hoping that Cabs and Sissoko sit in front of Anita, Gouffran and Marvs flanking Cisse, Debuchy and Santon getting forward to support with Anita and/or Sissoko dropping back when they do. I can imagine that working well. If Chelsea go for a 5 man midfield they may swamp us… will be interesting to see what Pards does. Hope it’s not 4-4-2!

  • 41 Unbelievable Tekkers // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Please no, injury prone and cant score. I would take him as a third or fourth choice striker but that’s never going to happen with how much he would cost. We would blow all our kitty on him and then there’s no way he would be sitting on the bench if he was costing so much….hoofball with cisse on the wing to come if AC signs.
    Regarding the west ham deal with liverpool i read quotes the other days from west ham saying that AC still has to agree to join them so its still possible that he could move here.

  • 42 numba9 // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    get saha in now as an option , we lack up top and window has past us by but he would come in no probs

  • 43 toonarmydownsouth // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Belfast @37
    Spot on mate

    Munster
    Have seen AC since ge left? No threat in the air anymore cant direct his headers anymore, as for the myth he has good hold play ppl seem to think he has, where does that come from? The lad goes down easier than katie price!
    For £10 mil and £45k which people are suggesting there are much much better players out there, rather see than spent on De jong

    Just quickly, why do people think MA would actually go in for AC? Isnt it young talented players with sell on value? AC meets none of that

  • 44 croftus5678 // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    @39

    aye saha is only close to an average striker if not a little less but we could get him this very minute and he is better than ameobi.

    and i do agree with another blogger that he really only had 6 month’s in the prem with us and was not prolific (as good as i think he is on the floor aswell as in the air) he would at best be a third choice striker and prob only a 10-15 goals a season one at that.

    if graham is not of our quality i very much doubt carroll will be now.

  • 45 papattack // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    why the hell do some people want saha?? hes past it, hence he was released by the scummers. if he couldnt get a game there with the amount of strikers they have he must be shot to pieces.

  • 46 croftus5678 // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    @45

    and ameobi is ok i guess ?
    the reason why i want him is that if cisse is injured we are screwed (simple as) even if he’s sat on the bench for 6 month’s it would suit me fine.

  • 47 NUFC_LEAZES END // Feb 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    always said no, and I’m still saying no.
    why do we want someone who is gonna be high wages, and left us for a ‘bigger club’ .
    rather bring in Charlie Austin, good upcoming striker that would play second fiddle to cisse

  • 48 numba9 // Feb 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    brighton signed a player this month that i mentioned last jan window, leo ulloa and he scored on his debut v arsenal, proven goalscorer right age and will do well for them. sure we could have got him over the line as pards likes to say

  • 49 Trent Toon // Feb 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Wouldnt mind an englishman on the team…

  • 50 Trent Toon // Feb 2, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Why spend 10 million on this guy when for another 90 million we could get messi????

  • 51 true toon // Feb 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    He’s a squad player at most. Offer Liverpool 3 Million pounds up front, replace shola with AC. I think we shld offer 6 Million for Chris benteke

  • 52 remember69 // Feb 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    The reason AC would be attractive is that he would provide another option, especially against CB’s who may be better on the ground than in the air.
    This would rely on having players out wide who can deliver telling crosses of course.
    I would see him not as the number 1 striker but one of the pool that can best take advantage of opposition vulnerabilities.

  • 53 remember69 // Feb 2, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    NUFC
    I believe that the offer of 35 million was more than Ashley or AC could resist. What an astute sale that has been on MA’s part – looks what players we have brought in for that amount (ie ALL of our French lads).
    You can’t blame Andy for talking up his new club, all players do if they want to get on the good side of the fans.
    I have a feeling AC would walk back to Newcastle if given the opportunity but can’t say so publicly.
    Should we sign him? If the manager feels that he is the best striking option to take be club forward then yes, otherwise purchase the player that fits that bill.

  • 54 thepict // Feb 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Don’t want him anywhere near the club.

  • 55 Wandering Geordie // Feb 2, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    No…would offer nothing to the team and besides he is a walking sicknote…By the way Remy is injured and not playing…Thank god for fate

  • 56 Bowzer912 // Feb 2, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Gomis is gonna be a free agent but I reckon we’ll grab Siem de Jong for 9m.
    HWTL!

  • 57 AmericanGeordie // Feb 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    £6M, and £35k/week.

    And frankly, if I were Carroll’s agent I’d demand that Liverpool pay Andy the £6M to buy out his contract. Coincidentally, that is exactly the difference in wages he’d be giving up.. (75k – 35k x 150 weeks = £6M.)

    Also, Liverpool wants £18 because they paid £35, but who cares what they paid. That was their mistake! (What did we sell Xisco for? Nothing!) Liverpool should do the deal just to get him off the books and be happy to save the £75k/week.

    I really believe such a deal would be a win-win-win for Newcastle, Liverpool & Carroll.

  • 58 donkeypunch // Feb 2, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    liverpool was never going to work for andy the same reason why a messi playing in a team who hit long balls to his head wouldent work you have to play to a players strengths.If you have two ok wingers who can cross a ball then your andy carrols can be just as deadly as a tecniclly gifted players but just in a diffenet way. with the right players around him and tactics andy carrol will get you 15 25 goals a season and about 10 assits if nufc could pick him up for 8-10 million end of the season then it would defently be worth looking at only have to see how much of a danger he is at free kicks and corners where we have been seriosly lacking this season could easily imagine sissoko bursting though the centre from andy carrol flick ons and picking up a load of goals the with goofy and HBA either side of him aswell providing the crosses and pace would be a very scary for any team playing us

  • 59 Sav // Feb 3, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Only 12 months ago…? Seems like a whole lot longer.

  • 60 chuck // Feb 3, 2013 at 4:38 AM

    We are buying thuroughbreds, why bring in a plowhorse ?
    He just would’nt fit.

  • 61 donkeypunch // Feb 3, 2013 at 5:29 AM

    just think he a great forward allways seem to turn it on againts the big teams great team player and athelete . think a lot of people will change there minds by the end of the season about wanting him back only have to look at his impact for west ham yesterday from coming back from injury to see how important he is but that is my only doubt about andy carrol is his injury record will he be another sicknote. if we do go for another stricker in the summer thou wifred bony should be are first target and if that dint work get carrol




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