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Clubs Finding Creative But Silly Ways To Circumvent FFP Rules

2:35 pm, Tuesday, February 5th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 234 Comments

We’ve seen clubs like Manchester City, PSG and recently QPR spend money like it’s going out of style, and the Financial Fair Play Rules (FFP) seem to be having little or no effect on some of the big spending European football clubs.

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Michel Platini – UEFA President

And some clubs – notably PSG and Manchester City – are trying to find creative (but  illegal) ways to beat the system – with City’s deal with Etihad Airl;ines of £400M over 10 years being way above the fair market price of such deals, and the Airline is also closely linked to its Abu Dhabi-based owner – so there’s a conflict of interest there too.

And we hear that PSG have recently done a deal with the Qatar Tourism Authority, for £125M a year with the Qatar Tourist Authority over four years - to promote tourism in the country – give me a break – what’s this to do with football?

In business,  these types of deals have to be at the “fair value” or market value of other sponsorship deals – basically it’s what the market will pay for the deals – and you cannot inflate these by up to ten times their value and expect to get away with it – well not in the real business world that is.

UEFA have just released their latest report, and losses have gone from €0.6B(£0.52B) in 2007 for European clubs to €1.7B  in 2011, and 46 clubs would have failed the financial break-even test – and we’re certain Newcastle are not one of them.

UEFA’s General Secretary, Gianni Infantino had this to say about the losses:

“It is a hell of a lot of money and a very worrying situation that the clubs have the responsibility to take very seriously. It is not about just one club that might go bankrupt. The whole of football cares, because the consequences of a club going bankrupt are felt across the game,”

“Everyone, including PSG, know the rules and knows when they kick in. They know the rules are that they have to generate revenues to cover their costs without cheating know the rules and knows when they kick in.” “When we first discussed FFP it was Chelsea that attracted some questioning, then you have Manchester City, then it was PSG”

“Our responsibility is to have a system that works for more than 630 clubs and not look at one club and neglect the rest. Each individual situation will be assessed very carefully by these two panels.” “PSG have to respect the rules, they want to respect the rules.” “They are telling us they want to respect the rules.”

“The FFP rules are there to help the clubs. UEFA doesn’t want to sanction the clubs, we want to help them. But sometimes we have to sanction someone to help the clubs.” “We have a regulation which speaks about fair value of deals and the fact that a related party cannot just inject money into a club directly or indirectly.”

UEFA has a team of team of 15 accountants who will begin analyzing financial figures next spring for the years 2011-12 and 2012-13, and that is the first period to be looked at under the new break-even regime.

Clubs will be allowed an acceptable loss of up to €45M over those two years, as long as it is met by some benefactor – which are usually the club owners.

And news that PSG are donating David Beckham’s wages of £3M over five months to charity, hoping it will not be included in the FFP calculation – good try but what nonsense!

Finally. Infantino had this to say about FFP:

“It is healthy and much more sustainable than someone coming in, promising a lot and then the next day the club is bankrupt. Look at the situation with Rangers. Secondly, big clubs have always existed, this will not change.”  

“In the past this was attendances, then commercial rights and TV rights.”  “”We think this should be the case all over the world, certainly all over Europe.   If   FIFA will not do it, we will certainly do it as far as Europe is concerned,”

Mike Ashley has done a of things wrong since he took over the club in June of 2007, by his own admission, but one thing he has been very good at is to get Newcastle United on a solid financial footing, and yet still we have still been able to bring some top players in on fantastic bargains – the most recent one being the great Moussa Sissoko for just £2M.

And one last thought – have UEFA had a look at QPR’s books recently?

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234 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonDownSouth // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    FFP has nothing to do with QPR. It only affects teams looking to participate in European competition.

    No surprise UEFA has already issued bans to a number of the smaller Spanish clubs – no doubt it’s balls will shrink when the prospect of banning a bigger club arises.

  • 2 JAMSHA // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    hi

  • 3 rainrix // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Meh i think everyone knows that UEFA wont have the gonads to enforce it against the bigger clubs. Massive apathy towards this.

  • 4 magpiebop // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    At least we have our house in order but will be interesting to see if UEFA follow up the big talk.

  • 5 Graeme // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Fair Play Rules v Future of CL incomes for the top few??

    How long before a European Super League is put in place by the Top Clubs – They walk away from their National Association and UEFA and play amongst themselves generating even greater revenues!!

    Sponsors will love it, the TV Companies will love it – the FA & UEFA will be reduced to toothless spectators.

  • 6 Beattie25 // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    We could talk about what FIFA can do until the cows come home but ultimately I believe our very own club will cchange (or has the potential to change) world football.

    I said this a year ago but our misadventure in the summer made me question the things I believed in.

    The reason I think we will change world football is because we are starting a new way of thinking. Last season we showed you didn’t have to spend lots of money to have success.

    Other teams have shown this but have never sustained that success. Dortmund are a wonderful model but they still spend a lot of money.

    The only way to change the mindset of football is not by letting shirts and ties dictate to clubs the way to do it, it’s by 1 club setting an example.

    If NUFC could achieve the success that the team we have could potentially do, that would show people that it doesn’t matter if you spend billions or millions, it’s investing money correctly into decent players that gets success.

    I’ve said all along that NUFC has players capable of being part of a title winning team if only we had depth and a little more quality.

    I honestly believe we are 3 first team players and 2 seasons away from something truly amazing that will change the face of football, much like the moneyball of American baseball.

    We will become a model to copy and thus we might find more competition in the future for players, but IMO it is us that can change the world.

    That’s only if we don’t fall into the trap again of no investment.

    I’ve continued to post that without investment you cannot compete, bit you don’t need to invest £100′s of millions. We literally could win the leauge if we spend another £30 million. Consider how much the European giants spend every season and that’s nothing.

    Doing something like that will show small teams how to do it and force bigger teams to reduce wage bills. It will also show that businessmen can run football like a business and still have on the field success.

    Yeah, it’s a lot of ifs and buts, an most will disagree but as somebody posted on twitter on Saturday, our team cost approximately £47 million, Torres cost £50 million.

    Were so near, but so far away, but I kid you not, we are making waves in football and rival teams, owners and fans are incredibly jealous in what we are doing.

  • 7 outsidethebox // Feb 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    as pointed out on a previous blog a certain laurent platini (son )effectively works for psg thru qta …so cannot ever see psg having any constraints put on them

  • 8 outsidethebox // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    sorry correction
    platinis son works for qsi not qta ..

  • 9 giimps // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    The new tv deal will allow us to fairly compete with the big boys as we will increase our revenue from tv and “wonga”.
    Based on what players we have now and what finances are available next season, our success as a team will be rocking a few bigger boats and may even increase again if we get CL football within 2 seasons.
    Were not far away but as the beginning of the season has proved, we cannot afford to stagnate otherwise you get left behind and it may not be as smooth a road back to where we belong the next time we dont refresh the squad .
    HWTL

  • 10 Graeme // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Beatie 25 – Laudable sentiments, nicely put.

    Yes, it is most certainly possible and, having demonstrated once again in January, that YOU CAN find great VALUE, if you go and look for it.

    The problem then becomes that the French market cost rises as demand from those copying our example wont explore new markets, they will simply follow our example!!

    If 8 or 10 clubs looked for other markets to provide players at “sensible” prices, it would be much, much better. France cannot and probably will not, continue to be so generous with their better players!!

  • 11 Jonas's better than Messi // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    I’m not sure SKY would be happy with a European Super League.

    They hold all the cards in the UK broadcasting market.
    Why would they want to devalue the EPL (The main reason for SS subscription).
    Who’s going to have the broadcast rights for the European Super League. Free to Air or subscription only?

    The BIG question:
    Will Sky end up with more customers and/or be able to charge more?
    I think that’s unlikely on both counts.
    So why would they support a European League?

  • 12 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Good post beattie I think its not outlandish to suggest the MA’s arrogant approach to how his business practice should be imposed upon the football game is actually a far-reaching as well as a brave one. I have said before I would seriously struggle to think the same way about NUFC if we had an Abramovich-style owner. The kind of mentality that pervades a club of that sort is one of diminishing returns, the more cash thrown around the less the whole equals the sum of its parts, the gane becomes a bragging sport for elitist spoiled brats, and the craft of the game is lost to glamour and corporate hob-nobbing. The illustration of the cost of Torres speaks volumes about profligate spending for its own sake. I would dearly love us to win a top competition just to prove it.

  • 13 outsidethebox // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    instant karma …some reports claim loic remy has a clause in the event of qpr being relegated remy gets a free transfer ..toon could go for remy offer him signing on fee equivalent to difference in wages …simples

  • 14 Nick 69 // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    outsidethebox – Who would want Remy here after he’s shown his true colours? I know i wouldn’t and pretty much every other Toon fan I know wouldn’t

  • 15 Jonas's better than Messi // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Lots of the French clubs are now feeder clubs for the EPL, great academies and coaches, plus a big talent pool of French, African and North African (Arab) players.

    These French clubs are owned by privately.
    The market isn’t going to dry up.
    No while French chairmen are treating their club’s like we feared Ashley was going to do with ours.
    Sell your best players each year, sit back light up a big stogie and drink that huge cognac.
    It’s Xmas every window for French chairmen.

  • 16 Jonas's better than Messi // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Some players are injury prone (we have a few) Remy seems to be crocked a lot.

    I think we did well to miss out. I like Gouffran he runs and runs.

  • 17 outsidethebox // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    nick 69 …understand your viewpoint and from a moral point agree …but from a financial point .. not even for free??….

  • 18 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    This will never get solved. Football makes way too much money and the big clubs won’t stopped doing whatever they want with money. It’s a real shame as English football would be way more exciting if 10 of the 20 clubs had a sniff at winning it. Our models great, but if this FFP rules aren’t enforced then it won’t bring Newcastle forward, a similar thing is happening at Arsenal.

  • 19 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    But wasn’t part of the Remy thing that he wanted to play up front and we wanted him to play on the left?

  • 20 Beattie25 // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    The value of the French Market will either serve to drive up prices in that country or reduce costs in others as the markets all fight for value.

    Whilst it is possible that competition for resources in France may force prices up I believe NUFC are already identifying other markets to exploit.

    Least we forget the Italian international we got for 6 million and the Dutch international we also got for a similar price.

    I really believe that if clubs stopped going for trophy signings and concentrated on hard working talented professionals who could make a team then football would be richer, better and similar to days gone by.

    The arrogance of modern day professionals including their lack of caring is destroying the soul. How many times have we seen scenes like those at ST James park on Saturday at other clubs? We are bringing back that unity between players and fans and other clubs will have to take note.

    I think that Newcastle will continue to find bargains and that search will spread out all over Europe.

    Look at michu from Spain, even in that inflated Market bargains are there. The most inflated Market is Britain and until that is rectified we will struggle as a force internationally. The way to do it is by following the French, German, Dutch and Spanish models and investing money into youth development. If clubs continue to buy individuals that want to be central to a team rather than part of it for mega money then good luck to them, but NUFC is the future. Buying success now at reasonable prices and investing in youth.

    We might have bastardised a few models but ours seems to be unique to me. I have never seen a club with so much talent at such little cost over such a small period of time.

    We are on the cusp of greatness but our one weakness is perhaps our biggest strength, mike Ashley.

    Without footballing knowledge it is hard to predict if he knows what he is doing fully. If he sees the potential and follows through with the direction we seem to be going in, then football will find it’s soul again and the days of £80 million transfers and £200k a week wages will be replaced by men deserving of decent wages, success and honour due to professionalism, quality and talent alone.

    Case and point being Beckham. Decent footballer, but an abomination of the game I love. Not his fault, but his impact on the modern game has been a progressive disease that has nearly killed football. Nobody deserves that much success based on mediocre talent, and the desire to find the next Beckham over shadowed the desire for the next Bobby Moore.

    Cabaye could be the new poster boy of football but he is professional enough to understand what he owes football because of what football gave to him.

    I’m ranting.

  • 21 Nick 69 // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    outsidethebox – personally, no, I would not have him for free now. He has shown he is all about the money and not ambition. We have had enough money grabbers over the years and that resulted in us being relegated.

  • 22 Jonas's better than Messi // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    With the usual back 4 and Krul.

    We have …

    Tiote — Cabaye
    Sissoko
    HBA – Cisse – Gouffran

    With Perch, Anita, Mbwia
    Marv, Obertan, Jonas, Fergy, Sammy Shola as possible subs.
    Vukic, Gosling when they are back.

    Siem de Jong in the summer.
    Andy Carroll if and when his price and wage demands are too silly to resist.
    Bony, PEA, RVW first window we can afford them.

  • 23 donkeypunch // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    good post Beattie25. FFP only affects teams looking to participate in European competition so really cant see the point of this new ruling by UEFA is it really going to help your little clubs from overspending when there only hope is mid table at best dont mind these billionare owners of clubs spending crazy amounts of money to get success as long as they can pay for it Its when you get these dodgy people like risdale at leeds gambling on the whole clubs future thats need a stop putting to it .and simple way to do this is have the money secure in some sort of bank to upfront for all future wages transfer fees and etc and if they havent got the money to do it.then tough this way no clubs can go under

  • 24 Graeme // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Jonas @ 11.

    If the “Super League” does break away, with Manure, shitty, Chelski, Arse, the Milans, Barca, Madrid, Munich etc etc – who wouldnt want to watch it?

    If those 4 teams left the EPL, it would reduce the number of games played, raise the standards of the remaining Clubs and increase the competition for the League Title and the Cups – instead of it all being dominated by the top 4 with the occasional shock.

    No doubt UEFA would through the teddy out of the pram and ban the Breakaway teams from the CL, Europa League, but this would again create a much more even playing field for those teams still competing in their own leagues.

    To me, it will deliver all round

  • 25 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Jonas-I don’t even think I want Andy Carroll back here. He’s English, and was fairly devastating when he played here before, and of course he’s a geordie born and bred.

    However, I’m doubtful that he will ever retain that form, as Liverpool really did mess his career up. Mainly though, if we signed him up now or in the next few seasons its highly likely that the hoofball would return, with the ball playing talent we have at the moment it would be a big step in the wrong direction.

  • 26 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    With the bigger clubs being the ones generating the most cash through champions lge and foreign merchandise sales and gates doesnt this make it even harder for other clubs to gatecrash this closed shop? They cant spend the wild sums they are right now but are still able to spend more than the teams playing catch up what a joke.

  • 27 LooneyToon41 // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    @6. Beattie, Interesting post mate, liked it! Oh, but its UEFA not FIFA… different baby.

    Like many i have major doubts about whether UEFA will have the balls to restrict the major (wealthiest) clubs participating. What is apparent however, is that in the age of easy communication, UEFA will look like idiots if they don’t back up these ‘statements of intent’. And remember, this is NOT Sepp Blatter at FIFA, ie International football, this is UEFA!

    I do passionately agree with Beattie by the way, that good businessmen can run clubs properly, and still have success on the field! ;-)

  • 28 donkeypunch // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    nufc should go all out for wilfreid bonyThe lad looks slow, but is deceptively fast, has a lowcentre of gravity, and can certainly throw his body about, appears pretty strong and hard to knock of the ball, has a high level of stability, doesn’t go to ground or try endlessly for free kicks, and has the composure to control the ball so as to place it successfully, not just hoof and hope at the goal mouth. I like him and think he could adapt to the faster pace and dirtier defenders in the PL. a cheap get, good resale value back to the continent if he doesn’t work out, so very little risk and potentially high return i personly feel 12 million is really cheap for him hes like a drogba and berbatov all rolled into one. and if we cant get him get carrol for 8 10 million or offer liverppol a swap with cisse

  • 29 LooneyToon41 // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    @26 Boom. It’s all about TV. Yes, shirt sponsorship, stadium naming rights, gates, and merchandise can really help a clubs revenues, but basically it’s all about the BIG banana…. Television rights!

    That’s why there will never be a Super League of the top 10 wealthiest teams in Europe because, MOST fans actually don’t support those top ten teams, and therefore SKY (ESPN etc etc) will not pay the big $ for the rights.
    I have a SKY and ESPN package as a NUFC fan, but would i pay for a SuperLeague subscription without NUFC being in it…. no i would not! The big TV companies know this, and so do UEFA!

  • 30 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Would like to see us go for Benteke and Alderweireld. I’m not bothered who else we sign. If we want value for money, we should look at signing Sulejmani, Douglas and Gomis for free.

  • 31 LooneyToon41 // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Tim Krul to start for Holland against Italy tomorrow!
    ;-)

  • 32 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Can’t wait to see Mbiwa and Haidara in action. Great players.

  • 33 surreytoon // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I hate to bring up the subject but the nature of Remy’s contract with QPR intrigues me.

    Would they pay £8m and £75k for a player then allow him to leave for free if they go down?

    That is stupidity of the highest order.

    You would want to recoup as much as you could.

    A player would want to know that they can move on easily should the team be relegated and not be held on to by virtue of their contract, but to placate a player signing on, all you have to do is put a mutually agreeable buyout clause in there.

    So, my guess is that there is a buyout clause, not a “free transfer” – I suspect it is set at around £4-6m. I would love it if we could find out and broadcast it bit like Arry Arse face did with Demba.

    Of course it works both ways, you don’t want a player hiding behind their contract and staying on at £75k/week if you are in the Championship, but to pay £8m for a player and say both parties can walk away is mad isn’t it?

  • 34 rainrix // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    I think we should look at investing more in our academy system. Lets be honest prices for players are only gonna stay the same or steadily increase, especially if more clubs follow our example.

    The young players we’re producing are either average or down right bad with the occasional gem such as campbell carroll and taylor. Our under 21s are pretty bad as well. I feel that instead of buying foreign youngens to bring into our development squad we should just invest that money into our academies local scouting system and facilities. Not to slate that young swiss kid we just bought but i’d rather we’d invest the money we paid for him into our academy and produce a more consistent better level of young talent.

    Plus being english means their sell on value will be astronomical :)

  • 35 rainrix // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Surrey… I think its more of a case of remy wanting the free leave bit in his contract in case of relegation. Thats probably one of the reasons he joined i think. Its naivety on QPRs part, they’re taking a huge risk and they know it, there banking on these players saving them and the owners must be pretty confident of it happening.

  • 36 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    LOONEY TOON The big clubs get the tv money as well as all their other revenues therefore they CAN spend more than smaller clubs I dont see ur point about tv money.

  • 37 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Im sure i read somewhere when that Remy transfer happened that Harry said he had a minimal buy out of 5 mil.

  • 38 Munster Mag // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    I would LOVE IT, LOVE IT if QPR went down. I jsut hate Floppy Chops and all his Sky journalist lovers. Remember when he was out of a job – he was on sky at least once per week been interviewed on the golf course about this that and the other. They adore him. Wanker.

  • 39 Munster Mag // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Harry Redknapp, what a cnut

  • 40 Glowey // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    As a Man City supporter, I find it all very amusing that, those clubs who used to be able to spalsh the cash and did, yourselves included. Are now coming on all holier than thou, now they no longer have the cash to splash.

    Exactly the same applies to ManU, Arsenal and Spurs, thtee of the all time big spenders in English football who, now other clubs can outspend them, have actually written a joint letter to the EPL, demanding they introduce even toughr FFP measures than UEFA intend! Talk about hypocritical.

    Still, if UEFA do think they have the ball to take on our owners, they better be prepared for a looooooong and costly legal battle in the European courts, I think its called anti trust laws when organisations try to prevent businesses spending their money on improving.

    As for a european super league, its getting closer all the time.

  • 41 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    At munster couldnt agree more. Hes ruined a few clubs lets hope he gets what he deserves this time round.

  • 42 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Please see an interesting article regarding Liverpool and the jealously of not having Sissoko in their team:

    http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2013/02/lfc-transfer-news-rodgers-negligence-moussa-sissoko-newcastle.html

  • 43 Neil Crosby // Feb 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    There is no connection between Sheik Mansour and his family and Etihad Airways who sponsor Manchester City.

    It is impossible to make a comparison between City’s sponsorship deal and others because there isn’t one like it and therefore cannot be judged. The sponsorship is for the Etihad Campus comprising the stadium and the new training ground which will be the world’s best when completed in the summer of 2014. What are UEFA going to do? Go down the road to Rochdale and see how much that cost?

  • 44 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Take note of this, Abeid is a decent player and will do well for us in the future:

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/01/26/hatem-ben-arfa-hails-teammate-mehdi-abeid-72703-30202179/

  • 45 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Kets
    I read elsewhere that pool had offers of 15m turned down by Toulouse for Sissoko a year or two ago, and we had our eyes on him even before that.

    Our scouting and negotiations team really are golden.

  • 46 Blaydon-Toon // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Afternoon gents … Back in blighty after a weekend in Ireland ! Great game Sat and even better result ! Should have no fears playing Spurs now with our tails up :-) you never know we mag even break another duck by scoring from a corner to go with first away win at Villa and first win coming from behind against Chelsea …

  • 47 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    I dont think FFP is anything more than the usual fudged cap-tipping towards a problem too complex for it to solve. In the end it will be the economic climate and the ultimate underachievement for their spent dollars that will put a damper on the likes of teams from PSG all the way through to QPR.

    I really hope we are seeing the last part of the heyday of playboy clubs and greedy owners gambling for massive tv rights and the ensuing brand projection. As a business it will by definition have to aspire to make money, but the sport needs a real leveller, or a ‘tax’ on the most successful clubs to fund the academies and facilities of the lower league ones, maybe even a spreading out of the tv money across the leagues rather than paying the rich to become richer. Just throwing stuff out there.

  • 48 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Blaydon – havent you heard? our odds-on header from a corner scorer is Jonas. Strange days indeed! :)

  • 49 Blaydon-Toon // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    500-1 good price :-)

  • 50 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Ketsbaia the funiest part of that article is where they say he could have been good coverforallen or lucas ha ha deranged shower of dastarbs

  • 51 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Ketsy ketsy ketsy……..

    Aaaaahhhhhhhhhh………..

    That was written a year ago and how well has he progressed? Lets ask when he comes back from wherever it was up in scotland he went to on loan.

  • 52 Blaydon-Toon // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    We have some height in the side now with Taylor back obviously Sissoko and Gouffran is good in the air for his size but Guti is obviously clear fave !

  • 53 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    NUFC SHOCKER star player says club youngster has bright future.

  • 54 JAMSHA // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Ketsbaia9

    Haha now they wana swap carrol for our scout

  • 55 hatem786 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    While on international duty with Argentina in Sweden, Fabricio Coloccini has been interviewed yet again about his situation at Newcastle United.

    What Colo had to say to Fox Sports in Argentina is almost all positive with regard to Newcastle, apart from the fact that he has confirmed that once this season is out of the way he still needs a permanent return to Argentina.

    Website SportWitness were the first to bring reports of the Coloccini interview;

    “I had found a home to live in to be with my family in Newcastle. I had already prepared everything so I could spend the four years I had left with Newcastle.

    After this though the problems arose and I asked Newcastle to let me go as I needed to be in Argentina.

    I’m not thinking about what happens in May/June because I want to totally concentrate on Newcastle. I owe them that for the trust they have placed in me for five years and I want to give my best on the pitch, then we’ll see later.

    Newcastle have treat me in a great way and I am grateful to this day to the people, the fans and the club. The only situation was that I needed to return to Argentina for personal reasons.

    That need though to return to Argentina, still remains”.

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    People would watch a European super league.

    People watch a lot of champions league football even though their teams aren’t in it.

    Also you would get a much larger world wide audience as more places would watch if you had top teams playing every week.

    Sky sell a lot of packages based on prem league subscriptions but most people’s clubs are in the championship or lower. People just enjoy watching top level football.

  • 57 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    on FFP

    It’s a pointless ruling to keep the big boys happy.

    It means teams like man utd who have been at the top for so long can continue to spend as they earn more but no team below them can spend as they don’t have the same incoming money, ultimately leading to the top teams spending more and in theory having the best team and remaining at the top.

    UEFA Will ban small teams or teams which dont attract a bit audience but team like man utd or real madrid will never be banned as they bring too much in for sponsorship.

  • 58 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Tsunki

    Football is like any business though.

    If you want to move up a level you need to invest upfront. This is business is either somebodies savings or a bank loan.

    In football its from a rich owner or a loan from the bank. It’s a gamble but its the same as the gamble in a business. The only problem in football is that only so many teams get champs league, there is a quota, this is where it is different in business.

    Man Utd were just lucky that the time they were at the top coincided with when money from tv came into the league to allow them to stay up there.

  • 59 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Still can’t believe they paid £35m for Carroll, £18m for Henderson, £20m for Downing, £9m for Adam, £12m for Borini, £15m for Allen. That club’s a complete joke. Sissoko is divisions ahead of Allen and he was £13.2m cheaper. The only players I’d take from Liverpool would be Agger, Suarez and maybe Sturridge. The rest aren’t good enough for us.

  • 60 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Gerrard’s playing better now, but we don’t need him as we have Sissoko.

  • 61 pedro // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Coloccini has been speaking again about the transfer saga. He said that he now only wants to focus on Newcastle but still wants to return to Argentina sometime because he “needs” it. His version of the events is that he was very happy to sign the new contract etc and was looking for houses then he had a personal problem (this is still not explained) so he went to speak to the club and tell them he wanted to return to Argentina. At no stage did San Lorenzo speak to him first etc. (this seems a bit strange seen as his Dad is involved..but he doesnt mention this) It was his dream to go to San Lorenzo because he is a fan but Newcastle would not allow this. There is also a strange part that Coloccini says is not true that Newcastle owe him money and he tried to use this to move. Anyway, he finishes by saying now his only focus is Newcastle and getting as many points as possible.
    I think he will be off in the summer and M’biwa will be the replacement. I just hope we get some money for him!

    If you want to keep up to date with Argentine football check out my blog http://golazoargentino.wordpress.com/

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    kets

    Thats what happens when you don’t have a proper scouting system and a manager in place who doesn’t have much knowledge of the game outside of England.

  • 63 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    The bit about the house is true – its well known he has bought a house in a nice part of the Toon and is doing it up at this moment. I suppose whatever it is that has happened is a very recent event, but I am not sure about the rumours of playing away because his missus is still going back and forth from the UK apparently. Could be an illness in the family, I think if he’d been naughty the papers aren’t stupid and would have been all over this by now not to mention twittingbury and the like.

  • 64 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Even from Man Utd, the only players I’d take would be Valencia, Van Persie and Rooney. They spent £17m on Kagawa and £20 on D’Gea who haven’t stood out.

    With a few key additions (i.e. Benteke, Alderweireld, Sulejmani), there’s no reason why we can’t challenge for the title next season.

  • 65 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    I hate it when managers sign players from their former clubs. They always turn out to be poor buys. I’d like to see us snap up a few South American’s in the summer.

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    tsunki

    Yeh I think you could be right there.

    I would say that it could be an illness. He will have enough money to pay for top of the range treatment back home where his wife (or whoever is ill) would also have the support of the family.

  • 67 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Wigan seem to target the North American market. Figueroa, Palacios etc were good signings. Rate Bearsejour. Great player.

  • 68 Troy Stavers // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    I can’t believe the poor profit we make on commercial side of business. It’s very poor to the likes of Spurs. Our shirt deal is poor as well, even compared to the Mackems.

    Still, we are heading in th right direction.

  • 69 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Arsenal gain a lot of match day revenue. We’re going in the right direction. We made a big mistake last summer not signing the players we needed. We’re still short, but players like Sissoko, Mbiwa etc have given us a boost.

  • 70 Super Magpie // Feb 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Challenge for the title…
    You never fail to come up with some outrageous quote do you? :lol:

  • 71 Wandering Geordie // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Here’s a link to Yoan Gouffran’s sublime finishing.Watch out for the back heel

  • 72 Wandering Geordie // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL9V4f6x8bw

  • 73 donkeypunch // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    when clubs are paying out such huge sums for player nowerdays dont get why there cant imploy a top scout to do all the research before hand. it seems now with footballers your paying 10 million more on the club there from its like a fashion labay with the players they go for look at hazard 35 million and compare him to HBA FOR 5 million and i honestly beleive hba is a much better player. so funny to see these clubs spunk 200 grand a week on players with a 50 million tranfer fee and he was shit for whole year before they payed that much so it wasent like it was a big surprise he failed and liverpool omg they will just never learn tom ince let him go now they want to sighn him back for 6- 9 million

  • 74 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Troy – the problem is that the NUFC brand doesn’t generate terrific revenue because our image see-saws wildly from month to month. Our image will continue to sway from being fashionable underachiever to just plain risible northern clowns until we see some stability in the business and in the league standings. A cup or two wouldnt hurt.

    I am sick of it but it is still true, we often provide the likes of SSN with plenty of fuel to cast us in a less than glamorous light.

  • 75 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Super Mag – Come on lad, dont you realise we should be beating teams like Man Utd every day of the week? They are very average you know ;)

  • 76 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    It’s not a quote. I think we have better players than Man Utd. Arseanl, City and Chelsea will be our main competitors next season. They have the strongest squads in the league. If spurs sign a couple of striker, they’ll be up there next season.

  • 77 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    We should’ve beat Man Utd 2 months ago. They were very poor against us. We hit the bar as well.

  • 78 mattnufc // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    @Troy and Tsunski
    Our commercial revenue would be a lot greater if a certain Sports Direct wasn’t our main sponsor. However, we are still significantly far from teams such as Liverpool, Chelsea etc.

  • 79 yo-yo // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    http://healthlifee.com/health-a-fitness/nutrition/13492-the-english-premier-league-amazing-club-s-debt.html

    Your best rants for a long time Beattie :)

  • 80 Troy Stavers // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    @Mattnufc / Tsunki

    I could be wrong but I’m sure the Mackems shirt deal is twice the value as ours. That can’t be right!

  • 81 stretchintoon // Feb 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    here he goes again with his man u are an average side even tho there 9 points clear & zaha aint kicked a ball for them yet zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • 82 Troy Stavers // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Is Ketsbia really being serious with his Man Utd quote? ?????

    Oh dear. :-D

  • 83 lukes26 // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    I have a sneaking suspicion that Remy might still be a Newcastle player by July. QPR are probably going down to Championship & likely have a release clause for Remy should this happen.

    I think it all hinges on how well Gouffron does since they are very similar FWDs. Or maybe we’ll go for a prototypical CF instead.

  • 84 ToonDownSouth // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    I’d rather see us go for a target man.

    Pardew clearly likes playing that tactic, so it’s about time we bought a player to suit it.

  • 85 donkeypunch // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    think on paper nufc defence is almost on pars with man citys apart from the back ups they have to replace injured players and are midfeid with tioti dm cabaye playmaker sissoko box to box has the hba free roll winger only up front i think were held back from competing with the top 4 next season. if you value are team from defence up to midfeid your looking at about 120 -140 million worth of talent. and over the 3 years from buying and selling players the only real money outlay is on agent fees so if we did get two more great players in the summer there no reason why we couldent have a cheeky attemp at the winning the prem

  • 86 Troy Stavers // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    @Luke

    Would you want Remy after hearing he stayed in bed rather than meet toon officials?

    Knee chants for me! :-/

  • 87 Troy Stavers // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    BREAKING NEWS: Harry Redknapp has claimed he was driving Chris Huhne’s car as he’s desperate for 3 points :-D

  • 88 mattnufc // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    @luke
    I think we’ll be after Carroll in the summer. He can’t be too much money, surely. Not sure if I would want him back..

  • 89 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Bonsoir messieurs.

  • 90 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    lukes26

    I would hope we go after a dedicated winger. Remy might be available for cheap in the summer but I’m shaky on having all these strikers playing as wingers, especially after the Ba/Cisse fiasco.

    Gouffran seems a proper team player and will probably score as a winger a few times. Still I wouldn’t want to risk having a few strikers and unsettling them by playing them out of their favored position constantly.

  • 91 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    I just watched again the highlights of our game against Chelsea.

    Must Say Sissoko really impressed me. It seem joigning the PL galvanised him.

  • 92 Graeme // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    Greetings Niafron, how are you today? Hope all is well in sunny France!!

  • 93 Toon-Barmy // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Just heard that the average age of our squad is now 26 years old. (Based on our current 24-man senior squad, plus Santon & Haidara).
    Just thought it was an interesting fact :)

  • 94 Graeme // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Niafron, he was a revelation; a truly awesome performance, Man of the Match, without doubt!!

  • 95 p // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Can’t see Remy coming. If he is out for 4 weeks and then plays crap or just okay we will not be interested.

    If he plays sensationally well QPR likely won’t go down but if they do, someone who can afford 80k a week will come in for him

  • 96 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    @89Norcal

    Well, we got Beny, Marv, Jonas, Obertan, Samy, Fergie…

    So, if you want someone cause you judge them not good enough, you have to sell first.

  • 97 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    @Graeme

    All is fine, but not sunny. We even got some snow today (not heavy hopefully)…

  • 98 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    I do not really follow QPR. How are Rémy’s debut?

  • 99 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    niafron

    But we’ve played Hatem on either the right (so he can cut inside and shoot with his left) or the center (which Sissoko may lock in now).

    Jonas, even after his display at Chelsea, should probably be phased out and he’s 29, he has lost his drive it seems. I’ve scrutinized him very carefully.

    Obertan also plays on the right, Fergie and Sammy are a couple years off being good players.

    I would say yes to Marv, but he should be a backup for Sissoko, he seems to do best in that advanced central role, rather than crossing from the left wing.

    I guess I should have mentioned; I hope we get a LW :) I like Jeremain Lens and we did show interest in him.

  • 100 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Fergie should get a loan deal, don’t think he’s ever had one.

    Same with Sammy, needs some first team experience and guidance on how to play. He freelances a bit too much at times. Hopefully someone would take a chance on him.

  • 101 p // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Anyone find the Gouffran signing interesting?

    He was likely second choice, maybe even more so.

    He was one of the least heralded signings but, has made an instance impact, no doubt about it.

    Clearly though, he was scouted and signed on ability etc, not just a question of someone who was half decent available for a nominal fee.

    Seems an all round top guy as well.

  • 102 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Personaly, i would definitively play Marv in the starting eleven, so, the only place for him is now the left wing.

    Well, except if put Cab in a 6 position, but it’s a bit lightweight for Pard’s Taste.

    Anyway, i think MArv himself is lightweight ofr Pard’s Taste, so i’m not very optimistic for him.

  • 103 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    And remember, he come from La Courneuve!

  • 104 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    89Norcal – just picking up on your comment on Jonas losing his drive – not sure thats the right term in his case, I think more than any other game lately he worked his socks off all over the place, in fact the lasting memory I have of him from saturday was when the match ended and he walked off I cant remember a player looking so utterly knackered.

    I think perhaps the edge has gone from his technique thats for sure, and in large part thats got to have been the fault of circumstances forcing Pardew to play players where they would have the most effect, rather than in their favoured positions. Nursing Raylor and then a formative Santon has definitely taken its toll, but when he plays on the right as on saturday, having a more experienced and competent FB like Debuchy makes his forward movement much more effective. He may come back into it with more game time like that. I think if he gets games where Pardew could switch sides at will with the likes of HBA/Marv/Jonas and perhaps Goofy we could put the best teams in the league on the back foot.

  • 105 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    He come from La Courneuve!
    He play for Châteauneuf!

    Yohan Gouffran!
    Yohan GOuffran!

  • 106 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I’m also very curious to see how Pard will manage Mbiwa.

    For me, he was the pick of the bunch of the window. But with Saylor and Colo at their best, will not be easy for him…

  • 107 yo-yo // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    niafron

    I agree about Marv think he’d make a superb left winger though he seems to prefer playing inside left.
    How do you think he’d do wider ?

  • 108 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    niafron – I have no fears for Mbiwa, I think Pardew has him set for a pivotal role in defence, in fact I think he will be Pardews secret weapon. As it stands, Coloccini is still set on leaving in a few months, and this team is partly designed to stay in the PL but ultimately to surge forward next season.

    I expect Mbiwa to figure in defence a lot more, and when you consider S Taylor to be likely to get injured at any time due to his liking for blocking everything that comes his way, it wont be long before he holds a permanent spot. He may even get to be captain. Watch this space.

  • 109 Jail for Ashley // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    89coral
    I was reading last night that Swindon have got an unbelievable player shortage.I think we shold send the young lads down there,they’re pushing for promotion and it could give them a taste for succes,and apart from his mental illnesses that Di canio looks like a good up and coming manager.

  • 110 cyprus // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Watch these 46 clubs create a super super cup which will overshadow the champions league which will be re-named to ‘also-runs- league’. You can’t win Ed, you should know.

  • 111 northernirishtoon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Alright lads. Haven’t been on the blog all day so don’t know if this has been put up yet

    Seen this earlier on twitter.

    http://youtu.be/KYfIF5v_UuQ

    20 minutes 13 seconds is why I love the man more than my own missus

    God bless you Alan shearer!

  • 112 hotdog // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Niafron – on talksport this afternoon it said that high earners in France are taxed at 70% of their earnings. Do you know if that is correct? It seems outrageous!

  • 113 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    @Yo-yo

    Difficult to say…

    I think however is best sutied in a central role, but ill not swear it until i see him alot of times in Both the positions.

  • 114 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    @Hotdog

    It’s not true right now, but taxing the annual incomes above 1 millions at a 75% percent rate was one of the major points of François Hollande’s electoral campaign.

    It’s in project but it seem the government got some hesitations about this altough a majority of the french seem to favour this idea.

  • 115 hotdog // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Niafron – ahh ok no wonder we are signing these French lads :-)

  • 116 niafron // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Got to go lads.

    Bonne soirée messieurs!

  • 117 BDin9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Glowey@39 Remember your roots mate. That’s why I was glad you won the league last year. Do you really want to be in a league that means your away support is for the elite only?

  • 118 Krul to be Kind // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    evening guys

    I have a quick query i was hoping someone could help me with – i am going to try and get over for the Arsenal game with a Bristolian m8 off mine here in Belfast, he’s an Arse season ticket holder so he could get tickest in the away end but my question is this – how easy would it be to get a ticket in the gallowgate, and if impossible would a normal ticket be easy to come across for a big team?

  • 119 northernirishtoon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Krul you will get one on viagogo no bother

  • 120 beddersmag // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Glowey

    Take your point but it has to stop somewhere as clubs are taking this to new levels. Dont get me wrong i love seeing the former rich clubs and their hypocrit fans upset. And you guys deserve some success but there needs to be a point when enough is enough. Then again if shoe was on the other foot not sure id still have those principles :-)

  • 121 northernirishtoon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Krul

    http://www.viagogo.co.uk/nufc/Sports-Tickets/Football/Barclays-Premier-League/Newcastle-United-Tickets/E-465133

    For arsenal match

  • 122 yorkshire_magpie // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Does anybody know if BEN10 is going to be back for the spurs game lads?

  • 123 Krul to be Kind // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    cheers nitoon

    just thinking out loud but you don’t happen to know when we play west ham in london, might try and get to that one, would love to go to the boleyn before it gets demolished too and maybe even try and take a game in at the emerites the same weekend + the wife’s mam lives in london so cheap accomodation 4 birds 1 stone! lol

  • 124 Toon Tang // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    http://youtu.be/1XSsny0CcZs

    toon fans at villa. this vid even has both the goals on from a fans view . really good vid showing the traveling fans and the loyalty

  • 125 TorqToon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Cabaye and Sissoko start for France tomorrow night!

  • 126 TorqToon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Sudoku will play just in behind benzema !

  • 127 TorqToon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Sudoku ???

    Sissoko !!

    Cheers predictive text! Haha

  • 128 BDin9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Krul when public tickets go on sale you should be able to get single seat ticket no problem. Get in quick though

  • 129 TorqToon // Feb 5, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Debs and Yanga on the bench.

  • 130 northernirishtoon // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Krul

    Away to wet ham is 4th may

    Semi final of Europa legue 2nd league is 2nd may lol (so we will be playing west ham on Sunday the 5th may)

  • 131 jasper // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Krul,
    Nufc.com is always a good site for fixtures.as NIT says currently should be on 4th May.
    So far as Arsenal game (19th May) goes you should be able to get tickets but might have to fork out for the Platinum club. Best bet is to be a member, or book via one, so that you can get in before they go on general sale.

  • 132 JAMSHA // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    U21 Eng 4-0 Swed

  • 133 fray bentos // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Where does that Beattie lad get off?!

    His posts always make him sound like a pompous know it all reeking of self importance who think everything that comes out is mouth is gospel

    He’s write far worse but that paragraph about Beckham in post 20 is so self absorbed, urgh

  • 134 Krul to be Kind // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    jasper & NIT

    Pair of gentlemen!

  • 135 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    TorqToon – do you think Sudoku is just there to make up the numbers ha ha ha ok I’ll get me coat….

  • 136 TorqToon // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Tsunki – That’s awful my friend…!!

    Don’t call us…we’ll call you! :-)

  • 137 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Thankfully I do have a day job. :|

  • 138 Alan Pas-de-clue // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    inman has scored two in the jpt, second supposed to be great

  • 139 yo-yo // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Fray

    Beattie claims to have mild Aspergers which would not explain any of your comments. Mind, his posts do not indicate he is autistic in any way.

    There are other posters on here who do show all the signs though.

    The two rants on this thread are by far his most sensible for ages. Canny criticisms from you :)

  • 140 Troy Stavers // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    @Tsunki

    TorqToon – do you think Sudoku is just there to make up the numbers ha ha ha ok I’ll get me coat….

    To be fair that was quite witty. :-D

  • 141 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Wor lass just asked what are we doing on valentines night my reply im off to the fcuking match love you can do what you want, who said romance was dead :-)

  • 142 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Aww Troy I know you’re just being uncharacteristically nice ;)

    And to think I didnt even acknowledge your Chris Huhne joke ha ha I feel so ashamed. :D

  • 143 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Boring week. International friendlies are the biggest waste of time for no reason. Most international football is for me.

  • 144 yo-yo // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Troy

    I posted it on FB. 4 likes so far but then I have very few e-friends

  • 145 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Watch England or France tomorrow night?

    France for me! 8pm ko

  • 146 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Bollance- Are any of them on terrestrial? I don’t want to be streaming a boring friendly.

  • 147 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Quite a massive advertisement to player in France the fact sissoko was on the fringes yet two games for us and he is in the France team for a friendly.

  • 148 yo-yo // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    wow blog needed resus there bollance

  • 149 ONLINE GUY // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    TSUNKI

    @135 very good very good …

  • 150 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Hatem

    No longer live in uk so I will be streaming.

    You should use wiziwig.tv. You will get a good steam for this int match. Plus u get lots of nufc games especially when we play on Sunday.

  • 151 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Yes it’s been very slow the past few days. Guess its because we are doing well the doom mongerers are nowhere to be seen.

  • 152 ONLINE GUY // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Sticking me neck out here ..Spurs 2 v 3 Newcastle United

    I’m Hedging me bet’s so will also go 2-4 to the Toon.

    Not kidding lad’s, Iv had a sign .Woooooo !

    Where can I get the best odds??

  • 153 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Yeah I generally use first row to watch toon games. Gonna miss Tottenham as I’m at work all day which is a pity.

  • 154 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Yo

    Happy to oblige. Don’t have much to say except I hope cabaye and sissoko come off after 60 mins.

  • 155 ONLINE GUY // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Best online Bookie’s ?

  • 156 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Online guy- they all vary for football odds. But I’m sure there’s a comparison website where you can type in your bed and it compares the odds of all the sites giving you the best one. Just google it.

  • 157 ONLINE GUY // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Thank’s for that Hatem ..will go Scout. Cheers !

  • 158 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    A bit of a troy Stevens post

    My pre match routine is as follows. Like to look on twitter to see line up 45 mins before ko. Lee Ryder posts the team.

    10 mins before the match I load up wiziwig then check for best sopcast. If there aren’t any good ones then load up firstrow.

    During the match I can get angry with bad play and this season I am more concerned we will concede. When we score I shout, usually jump up do my own celebration. Against chelsea at home when sissoko scored the winner I could not stop laughing and kind of shaking. I did represent a mentally handicapped person for about 2 mins.

    At the end of the game I look on here to get a general feeling for the game. I don’t like the negative posts but they are needed to formulate a balanced view. Also usually vote for man of the match who I base on most influential. Don’t always get the most popular on here but that is fine.

    Bit of a unique post and yes very strange but probably most of us share this ritual.

  • 159 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    @Tsunki

    Read your reply earlier, I agree the switching around may have an impact. But Jonas does put in a great cross or two, problem is it’s not on the run and he usually doesn’t turn it on until late in the game.

    As for Spurs, my gut tells me we shouldn’t have much to worry about Bale playing in the center of attack. Honestly I think he’d give us more problems out wide or up front as a striker which some people hinted at.

    My main worry is Adebayor after last season’s blowout. But with our morale high and our tactics in top shape, I’ll be ambitious with a 2-1 win :)

  • 160 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    89

    If memory serves me right last season we were in with a chance but they blew us away. We have perch and Guthrie? starting in midfield which proved to be very weak. How times have changed.

    Just a bit of a warning. We are all anticipating something special. Really hope we can do the business again but we must be cautious.

    Apparently Adebayor is inconsistent. Hopefully he is not up for it!

  • 161 bollance // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-fabricio-coloccini-reveals-he-came-1587533?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Headline should have read

    Colo Close Shave

  • 162 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Norcal – I don’t normally focus on one player, but Bale is on fire at the min, hopefully this means he will have a bad game ;). We will concede, when haven’t we? But I seriously think we can outplay them and score more as we did at Chelsea and should have done at United. I reckon it will be 3-1 or 2-2 ( to us of course). Seriously think we can get the three points and really push on now.

  • 163 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    89Norcal – No to be fair I cant really recall Jonas being a terrific crosser even during his best days.

    As for Suds’ attacking threat, it relies in much the same way as Chelski’s does in a way, that of posing such a varied attack that teams are generally forced to think defensively from the team sheet being posted. The new personnel fielded against Chelski allowed us to turn the tables and force them to consolidate their defensive midfield more then they are usually accustomed to except against the likes of the Manc teams for example. Now they have had a look at what we can do we wont be so much of a surprise, but I dont think they will be as reckless going forward as usual. Lennon and Adebayor are obviously a handful but manageable, Bale is probably the most tricky threat for me as he moves around a lot but as someone posted above, when things get a bit physical he can go really quiet. I expect two players to take turns welcoming him to the game but I am open to suggestions as to who are best. Perchy is always good for a laugh and so is Tiote but I dont want us to rack up the cards too quickly.

  • 164 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    And of course by lennon I mean defoe.

  • 165 p // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    see Guardian is talking about HBA to Liverpool as part-ex for Carroll.

    If that were true someone would need their head testing

  • 166 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Remember that time when we beat Spurs away when Paul Huntington scored the winner? His career’s declined.

  • 167 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    We used to beat spurs every time we played them. Who remembered the Obafemi Martins goal absolute screamer and he went mental, fond memories.

  • 168 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    bollance, Hatem
    Definitely trying to keep my feet on the ground, has hard as that is right now :)

    Tsunki
    Sometimes he puts in some really amazing crosses, but as far as sprinting down the flank and sending a decent ball in, he hasn’t done that probably for the last 2 seasons with any consistency.

    I was mentioning before that his best crosses nowadays are when he turns on the style and curls it with the outside right boot, usually when he slides up the goal line after beating the fullbacks.

    He’s too cautious or intimidated now to do that under pressure.

  • 169 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Reckon it’ll be a tight encounter this time. Got to watch Bale, Vertonghen, Dempsey and Sigurdsson. Might be worth starting Mbiwa due to his pace.

  • 170 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Hatem
    What a goal that was, wish I could embed the video. Never though he’d even go for that chance. They clocked it at 80+mph.

  • 171 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    God, we would’ve had the almost complete package if we would’ve kept Ba and signed Remy. We’d only need to sign Alderweireld and Douglas in the summer and then that’d be it for player recruitment. Big shame this didn’t happen.

  • 172 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Martins was underrated. He was a good player for us and Inter.

  • 173 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    I’m actually saying this but Ketsy is right about dempsey, for some reason he seems to love putting in a star performance against us, bit like duff.

  • 174 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    I remember beating spuds 7-1 and I was disappointed cos it shoulda been about 15

  • 175 Tsunki // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    I dont think so Ketsy, with Ba and Remy we would have two players always looking to get a better deal elsewhere. Wrong type of players for this team.

  • 176 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Kets I reckon Anita over Mbiwa cause contrary to popular belief he’s faster, he’s a great ball player and he’s already intergrated with the side. Mbiwa looked a little shaky in defensive mid against Villa, but hopefully he’ll be in the pitch soon enough, starting him away in London wouldn’t be wise I don’t think.

  • 177 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    I think ed should list Remy as a swear wourd so it doesnt make it on screen .

  • 178 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    *WORD just know some fcuker will highlight that

  • 179 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Finally a squad strong enough we cant agree on starting 11 hallelujah

  • 180 Hatem // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Yeah it’s nice having a debate about a starting 11 that nobody agrees on. Futures looking bright.

  • 181 89Norcal // Feb 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    I think we may be able to handle the pace of Bale and Dempsey, seeing as our last two games, Gouffran has tracked back and assisted on defense, to a decent degree of success.

    Not sure if I back that scheme 100% though, his stamina seems enough to deal with it but that’s a tough job week after week.

  • 182 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Neufchateau or Chateauneuf. After doing a couple of previous posts explaining why I believed that the correct translation would be Neufchateau, I managed to do some further, irrefutable, research which does indeed show that the correct construction should be Neufchateau. Brief description of what I found out and associated links to check it out yourselves (if you want to).
    1.Reference to a letter from Edward ll to the Duke of Dunbar dated 19th November 1298 in which reference is made to Noef Chastel sur Tyne. Link:-
    http://db.poms.ac.uk/record/source/8018/

    2. Letter from John Kirkby, Bishop of Carlisle (dated1331 -1332) in which reference is made to Noef Chastel sur Tyne. Link :-
    http://wse1.webcorp.org.uk/anglo-norman/browse/miscellaneous-005.html

    3. A Norman Chronicler called Jean Froissart wrote a series of chronicles between 1332 and 1400 -in one of his volumes there are numerous references to Neuf -Chastel sur Tyne. Link:-
    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=id62gJq6fWcC&pg=PA723&lpg=PA723&dq=neuf+chastel+jean+froissart&source=bl&ots=prIpICD_H1&sig=yxbYGese-eLOKEM2K5OrjoxaOFY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8ZwRUYj1K4Wm0QW__IG4CA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=neuf%20chastel%20jean%20froissart&f=false

    There are loads of other references on the internet to noef chastel/neof chastel detailing further docs – leading to the position that there is no doubt it’s Neufchateau!

  • 183 shay Robson // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    I would love to see a repeat of the 7 – 1 score. Spurs really aggravate me these days. I used to pity them when we had gullit and shearer and they had gross and kinsman. I had empathy for their situation until they became arrogant.

    Who is pardews worst signing?

  • 184 northernirishtoon // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Lads just seen on ladbrokes sissoko is 9/1 to score ANYTIME 2moro nite.

    Considering he is playing the no.10 role for the first time for France this is some price

    I’m putting the house on it lol

  • 185 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    shay @183 – easy the “mekon”.

  • 186 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Mbiwa’s naturally a centre back. He shouldn’t be utilised in the DM role, we have enough players in that position. Anita should start ahead of Perch and maybe Mbiwa instead of Saylor or Coloccini.

  • 187 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Just read the Guardian article suggesting Liverpool want a swap for Benny in return for Andy Carroll. Complete and utter rubbish. West Ham apparently have a first buy option of 17 million. I suspect they may not want to spend that. If he does not stay at West Ham I am certain that we may see him back at SJP – for cash (and a lot of cash). My opinion only.

  • 188 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    @89Norcal – I don’t think anyone has trouble with Dempsey’s pace!

    @Kets – I…..totally agree (wow). I want to see M’biwa in only one position: CB. Because that is his position. Simple as that.

    Will be annoyed if Pardew just drops him into DM to see out games.

  • 189 Hatem // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Sorry Kets I thought that was what you were suggesting. Yeah Anita in there with cabaye for me, the sissoko behind cisse. Still wouldn’t put Mbiwa in just yet, Saylor and Colo and forming a monstrous partnership together, and separating it now seems rather silly.

  • 190 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    I was thinking of putting Mbiwa in to counteract Defoe’s pace.

  • 191 89Norcal // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Mister Tuff
    Are Liverpool TRYING to keep hold of AC? They really are pathetic with their transfer dealings.

  • 192 89Norcal // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    gonufc
    lol we did last season though, he scored a hat trick on us just from sprinting down the center.

  • 193 Hatem // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Is Defoe defiantly playing, I heard he might be out

  • 194 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    @89 – haha fair point! Still can’t believe that match…..

  • 195 Spreadthetoon // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Hatem

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21315672

    Defoe out for 2-3 wks

  • 196 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    89norcal -I’ve got this theory, and its just a theory that Carroll will be back and we’ll have to “refund” a sizeable chunk of the 35 million to do so. Only time will tell though -the summer.

  • 197 Hatem // Feb 6, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Oh yh so big Adebayor it is, never really rated him, but I won’t say that after last season. Night all

  • 198 t00ntime // Feb 6, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    @norcal When HBA is fit hopefully gouff wil play LM and hba RM. That way gouff can keep tracking back etc and if he needs a week(match) off or just the last 30mins off, we can but jonas on. Not as good offensively but definitaly okay defensivly. thats just mo and tbh AP will probably keep jonas even when HBA is fit.

  • 199 jimmysmith // Feb 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    Liverpool surely won’t sell Carroll back to us at the price we’d be prepared to pay.

    He’s a young, English, international centre forward with unique skills and limitless although unfulfilled potential.

    Someone will take a punt at 15 plus eventually and he could easily prove to be worth every penny.

  • 200 NUFC_LEAZES END // Feb 6, 2013 at 2:50 AM

    http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/02/ben-arfa-could-be-used-in-exchange-deal-for-andy-carroll/

    what a load of nonsense!!
    why would we swap a rare type of player like ben arfa ( there aint many like him ), that’s worth at least 20million. For a player like carroll, that’s worth round about between 5-15 mil.

    theres no logic in it, unless we were offered at least 10mill as part of the deal.

    mike Ashley may be a lot of things ( including a ****end ), but when it comes to value for money, he aint no muppet.

  • 201 petey // Feb 6, 2013 at 3:00 AM

    on an unrelated note:
    http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2013/02/04/3724533/his-pace-made-ashley-cole-look-like-a-tortoise-goalcom-world

    I often read this website and have never seen a toon player make world player of the week.

  • 202 petey // Feb 6, 2013 at 3:09 AM

    and
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msj_1YFWK_o

    sissoko vs chelsea :-)

  • 203 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 6, 2013 at 3:37 AM

    Swapping ben Arfa for Carroll is like

    Giving someone A turkey sandwich for a moldy biscuit.

    How about 35million + Carroll + a 50% sell on fee for Ben Arfa.

    Then we should consider…

  • 204 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 6, 2013 at 3:47 AM

    This comment from that website regarding Carroll for Ben arfa, really made me laugh. What a deluded pr!ck this fella is,

    “Patrick terriblearticle • 2 hours ago
    Then you’re pretty fuc*ing dumb. Liverpool are a team on the up and Newcastle are useless so of course Arfa would love to play with great talent like Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard, Coutinho.. tbh Arfa isn’t needed at Liverpool..
    0 •Reply•Share ›”

    Liverpool are a team on the up?, In the past they were a great club and title contenders, in recent years they have been dropping lower and lower in the league. I’m sorry, but the only direction they are heading is down. From Title Challengers, to a parody of Everton.

    Everton spend little money and have finished in similar positions to Liverpool in the league over the past few years, wheras liverpool have spent over 100mill (and that was only in 1 window)

    Great Talent?
    Granted Suarez has great ability on the ball, but to call a reknowned cheater “great” is an insult to players who are considered Great and actually played the game fairly

    Gerrard has what? 1-3 more years left in him? Half the time I’ve watched them play he ends up walking around and not tracking back.

    Sturridge, has potential, never really reached it at Chelsea. Too young and hasn’t achieved much to be considered ‘Great’

    Coutinho, Unproven.

    and lastly, Ben Arfa isn’t needed at Liverpool? Oh thats right, cause Downing is such an excellent winger. #heisuttershite

  • 205 pizzicatochan // Feb 6, 2013 at 7:09 AM

    Phoenix, I would see HBA worths 35M + Andy Carroll + Preferred buyer clause + HBA’s injured himself for 1 year…

    To sum up, exchanging AC with HBA is a load of BS.

  • 206 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    Continued from previous post.

    3. A Norman Chronicler called Jean Froissart wrote a series of chronicles between 1332 and 1400 -in one of his volumes there are numerous references to Neuf -Chastel sur Tyne. Link:-
    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=id62gJq6fWcC&pg=PA723&lpg=PA723&dq=neuf+chastel+jean+froissart&source=bl&ots=prIpICD_H1&sig=yxbYGese-eLOKEM2K5OrjoxaOFY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8ZwRUYj1K4Wm0QW__IG4CA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=neuf%20chastel%20jean%20froissart&f=false

    There are loads of other references on the internet to noef chastel/neof chastel detailing further docs – leading to the position that there is no doubt it’s Neufchateau!

  • 207 Tsunki // Feb 6, 2013 at 7:57 AM

    Mister Tuff – I think that old French may sound a bit antiquated now and may read as the ‘castle new’ now. Chateauneuf is correct in the modern style I believe. In any case it seems history has a habit of repeating itself.

  • 208 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 6, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Torq

    Ive heard that god put viera and yaya together to make sissoko, just what ive heard again i am NOT claiming to be ITK

  • 209 Santon03 // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    It’s not silly, there’s no law against it.
    It’s basically agreement between both parties on certain value and the contract is valid since both parties agreed to it, there is nothing anyone can do.
    For example, MC and Ethihad agreed on a contract which valued 400m, it’s their right to do it.
    If us and Sport Direct agreed on 400m contract, it’s also legal.
    Who has the right to set value other than both parties involved? Noone. Unless there is 3rd party like a bank.
    It seems unfair to other clubs because they don’t have anyone to work with that kind of money. if they have, they will do the same thing.
    For example, if you want to sell your old rusty car to someone for 1million pound and he/she agreed on the price, who has the right to say that the deal must be cancelled or it’s ilegal?

  • 210 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    santon

    Exactly.

    Also the City deal is over 10 years so 40 mil a year. Is that any more ridiculous than Tiger Woods being sponsored 36mil a year to use certain clubs and wear a hat?

  • 211 Troy Stavers // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    @Tsunki

    In characteristically nice. Me? :-D

    Are you waiting for the real Troy to appear. ;-)

    I’m always nice Tsunki until some upstart tries to be clever with piss taking comments. I then get a compulsion to grind them into the ground. :-D

    I agree with Santon. If the clubs have found loopholes then its down to the authorities to tighten them. It’s not the clubs fault.

  • 212 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    East stand – You heard wrong mate…

    It’s God + Viera + Yaya > to the power of Zidane

    = Sissoko

    Trust me…I’m a doctor! :-)

  • 213 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    Ps Waking up to the news of a HBA / AC swap…

    Who rights this rubbish!!?! And to read that Liverpool fans wouldn’t WANT HBA???

    Idiots!!

  • 214 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    Torq

    I am going to change my sauce now ;-)

  • 215 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    troy

    It’s not even a loophole, its just a perfectly fair sponsorship deal.

    Man Utd get 350mil for a shirt sponsorship deal so surely that should be on UEFA’s check up too?

    Just typical UEFA/FIFA preserving the historic sides to keep them at the top whilst pushing all other teams down if they dare to challenge their golden cash cow teams that bring the in the huge revenue for UEFA in TV money.

  • 216 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    Tsunki @208 ref; Neufchateau or Chateauneuf.
    I still think that it would be Neufchateau, I would accept that if Newcastle was being built now/today it would be called Chateauneuf – following the modern day grammatical rule that the adjective “neuf” follows the noun -”castle” ie it follows the post position rule. (as compared to the other French word for new -”noveau” which follows the ante position rule – ie it proceeds the noun).
    However, as Newcastle was built in 1080 by the Normans, the post position rule applied (due to Germanic influences in northern France and Normandy) whilst in other areas of France (during the same era) the ante position applied.
    Whilst it may be a complete waste of time trying to turn the name Newcastle into the correct/true version with modern French (because of the influx of French footballers) – I still think that Neufchateau is a true version of what the name should be, it has been very interesting finding out a bit of history about Newcastle which I did not know previously. Of all the different versions of the name – the one I still think is the best is the Latin version of Novum Castrum super Tynum.

  • 217 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    @Eastendgeordie207,

    I’ve also heard that when Tiote and Sissoko eventually bump fist, the results would be catastrophic. Some say that it may even be the ‘true’ end of the world.

  • 218 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    torq

    The whole article is ridiculous. Why would we swap our most talented player for AC who has had 6 good months in the prem league and thats it.

    Liverpool isn’t a step up either, they aren’t a champs league club and I think benny would only leave for a club he loves who were also challenging for silverwear.

    They play 3 up top and have coutinho, sturridge, suarez and sterling so can’t see why they would go for him.

  • 219 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    PWP

    It could well be the end lets keep them apart goid job their on the same team.

  • 220 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Good*

  • 221 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Typical lazy journalism, sage! I don’t know how they get away with writing this crap – yet still claim to be journalists!?

    Tuff – You are kidding right??? My man always told me that Newcastle was built by 12 Geordies using only their bare hands and a wheelbarrow…??!

    Feeling bad at the no that I’m more excited by the France / Germany game tonight than England vs Brazil.

  • 222 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    ammendment to previous post:-
    first reference to “post position rule” should read …”ante position rule”.

  • 223 ToonDownSouth // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Sage

    Seems like you’re deliberately missing the main point :|

    If we agreed a £100m a year deal with Sports Direct – a company owned by Mike Ashley – then it’s quite clear that that would simply be MA injecting money into Newcastle United.

    But you’re aware of this, I know, so I don’t really see what you’re trying to say. Are you just fine with, what Wenger refers to as, financial doping?

  • 224 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    Torq

    It makes no sense to me either how these guys to get to journos.

    You could get anyone off the street to right an article buy looking on twitter or just flat out making it up. The lack of quality in all journalism here at the moment is shocking.

    So many biased reports of papers pushing there own agenda or writing made up nonsense to just sell papers.

  • 225 Mister Tuff // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

    torq – it certainly was not just the Geordies who built the Toon in 1080 – they were assisted by Frenchmen.
    Oh – history is repeating itself now Frenchmen helping out the Geordies —-again.

  • 226 Santon03 // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    TS

    Don’t forget Beckham and CRonaldo.
    Anyway it’s more satisfying to me that we only invested 20million but can beat a team that invested 100s of million,
    like we beat Chelsea or liverpool.

  • 227 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    TDS

    The man city owner doesn’t own Etihad Airways though.

    I have no problem with owners putting there own money in anyway though. I think taking huge bank loans to finance a club should be stopped as you are then gambling with the future of the club, ie. if you dont get champs league you cant make repayments and end up going into administration.

    But if it’s the owners ‘spare’ cash like at chelsea or city that doesn’t risk the future of the club as they write that money off basically. It comes from the owner so it goes down as a loss but isn’t debt as they don’t have to pay it back (in most cases anyway, some owner do it as a loan which should be forbidden)

    If you don’t allow ‘financial doping’ its also not fair. You end up with the same clubs at the top having more money as they earn more, can therefore spend more and then pull away even further cementing their position at the top if the money is used correctly.

    Man Utd are basically lucky that their spell at the top of the league coincided with when huge TV money started coming in to allow them to push their ‘brand’ worldwide.

    If TV money can in 1900-1910 it could have been us who had secured a place near the top for many a year. In the 80′s it would have been liverpool who pulled further ahead.

  • 228 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Nice to see Sakho still talking about leaving PSG for the goo of his international career! Sure the toon boys will be having a word in his ear right about now!

  • 229 Troy Stavers // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    @T Sage

    I thought you were mistaken with that quote of £350m for the Mancs shirt sponsorship deal but I’ve just checked and its true!

    £51m per season! The Toons is supposed to be worth £8m per season.

    The imbalance is incredible. Mind its a free market and down to the owners to improve our image to gain more cash. I have no issue with it.

  • 230 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    TDS

    Same as in any sport. British cycling spends a lot of money, has top tech and coaches and has cleaned up in medals. Is that fair?

  • 231 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    troy

    I think that’s mainly due to their world wide appeal and shirt sales all over the world compared to ours, plus amount of tv time etc.

    They also get more sponsorship for their training top than the average prem league side gets for main kit deal.

    Then they have the nike shirt deal on top of what the sponsor pays to be on the front.

  • 232 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    What are everybody’s thoughts on the Debuchy or Yanga debate for the Europa league spot?

    Personally I think we should register Yanga, to acclimatise him to the squad, to help bed him in and to give him so well deserved and needed game time.

    Not a huge fan of Simmo, but he can play RB, as can Tav, Anita and (at a push) Jonas.

  • 233 Santon03 // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    TS

    I agree with you on stopping bank loan. I don’t know how big is the interest, I imagine it will be more than 10%/year.
    Usually banks will not give loan higher than what you make or your assets, the interests will kill the club especially if the club can’t achieve anything. Like when MA found out we have 100+million debt, if the interest is 10% then we will have to pay 10+million a year to the bank.
    It’s ok for the owner to invest their own money into the club, it’s their money. I’m pretty sure owners like Abramovic will not invest all of his money into the club, it’s probably like 10% of his money and it’s money that he is willing to lose (not hoping to return).

  • 234 widowmagandapoke // Feb 6, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Beattie at 6
    I really really hope you’re right!




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