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No Way Newcastle Will Let Ben Arfa Leave In Summer

8:57 am, Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 44 Comments

It may be that Newcastle are still interested in getting Geordie striker Andy Carroll in the summer, certainly Newcastle need top get an experienced striker through the door this summer, but news today that Liverpool want Bern Arfa in part exchange for Andy is a nice thought – but only for Liverpool.

Hatem Ben Arfa gets a hug from his Newcastle United team-mate

Ben Arfa – the mercurial one is going nowhere

There’s probably going to be a move made for Andy by Newcastle this summer, but they will only take the big lad back to his home club – if the price is right – and Andy has to be available for less than £10M for Newcastle to be interested.

Forget the £35M Liverpool paid for Andy just over two years ago – that was a huge mistake by the Merseyside club, and he’s not worth that today – and he was never was worth that – if the truth be told.

Andy is on loan at West Ham until the end of he season, and with no future for him at Liverpool, his club will try to sell him for as much as possible this summer, and maybe West Ham would be interested.

It’s a nice thought if you are Liverpool that they could snag one of Newcastle’s most creative players, but with the influx of new French players on Tyneside this summer, Ben Arfa will be happy with the ambition shown by Newcastle owner Mike Ashley and Newcastle must be in with a good chance for pushing for a top six place next season, if we can keep all our good players on Tyneside.

And after solidifying the squad brilliantly over the last month, there’s no way Newcastle would want to lose any of their top stars – and certainly not Hatem Ben Arfa.

The only way Ben Arfa would leave if a club with more money than sense – like PSG as one example – came in with a ridiculously high cash offer for the French International – but even then it would need to be very high.

If the deal to get Andy Carroll has to include Ben Arfa then it’s quite simple – Newcastle will not do the deal.

Mike Ashley has been under severe criticism at times as the Newcastle owner, but one thing he’s good at is doing good deals in the transfer market, as he proved when he got Liverpool to pay £35M in cash for Carroll on January 31st, 2011.

There’s no way Newcastle will want to lose Hatem Ben Arfa in the summer – and if that means we don’t get Andy Carroll back on Tyneside – so be it.

What do you think about this?

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44 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Joe Blog // Feb 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    HA! Good one.

  • 2 KayZey78 // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    May as well just let him sit another season and then we can get him even cheaper.. :)

    But really, he is not worth 10m now and certainly not worth loosing Hatem Ben Arfa.

  • 3 rainrix // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Even the liverfool fans admit this is a completely ridiculous story. Next!

  • 4 barkintoonfan9 // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    piss of rogers…. go shove that huge nose up Gylfi Sigurdssons a**!

    I want Carroll but aint losing hatem, no way.

  • 5 Troy Stavers // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    There’s no guarantee that we are going to go on and rise up the table and finish on a high.

    It looks that way at the moment but fortunes can quickly change.

    However, I do expect us to convince Barfa to stay and unless some ridiculous offer comes in then we will retain the most exciting player we have had since Ginola and Beardsley.

  • 6 magpie6699 // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    Is there no real football news? Must be a slow day.

  • 7 Troy Stavers // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    I agree Carroll would be great to have back but under £12m and the same wage as Cisse.

  • 8 sevenho // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Only 1 way to get HBA. 35million + Andy Carroll + Enrique (to polish players boots and 5th choice GK)

  • 9 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Troy – I think even £12mil is too much!

    It’s gotta be nearer to £7-8mil for us to look at purchasing him. It’s obvious Liverpool don’t want him, west ham are now using our scouts to search for new targets (latest is Bony), plus their option to buy is stuck at £17mil…

    In a month of Sundays, nobody will pay that!

    Carroll wants to come back to Newcastle – but the price AND the wages have to be right.

    Plus if HBA does decide to leave in the summer – I can’t see it being anywhere other than PSG.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    torq

    from previous I’m with you on getting mbiwa in the europa league spot instead of debuchy

    Simmo can do europa and if we really want could always play saylor or mbiwa at RB if we don’t want simmo there.

  • 11 Jonas's better than Messi // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    I hate HBA transfer stories … :-(

  • 12 bollance // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Don’t want to put a downer on the blog but hba wants to win things.. But of course he loves the toon. With his contract up in a few years he will need to make a difficult decision.

    There are only a few teams in world football he would now go to.

  • 13 saxonfenken // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    When is Liverpool going to realise that they are no longer a top draw club, and players will only go there for inflated wages as Andy did. I doubt whether Hatem would be interested anyway, If it was PSG that’s different and it would cost them.

    It seems that Liverpool wanted Moussa, but he came to us, so again there power in the transfer market is diminishing

    Andy’s injury record since leaving has been poor, as West Ham have found out to there cost.

  • 14 donkeypunch // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    if it hadent been for injurys i think HBA would have moved on by now hes thats good of a player were lucky to have him hes the closest your going to get campared to a messi. would love carrol back but defo not at the cost of HBA and rodgers is dreaming if he thinks we would go for that deal he should just stick to overpaying for british talent like dalglish did

  • 15 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    bollance

    Hopefully he stays with us and just plays out his career and we can give him a genuine chance to win a cup.

    I never blame a player going to better themselves though.

    He could play for madrid easily if they took a punt on him.

  • 16 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Will the links between us and Belhanda still very very string over here – maybe we are planning a ‘just in case’ scenario for the summer.

    Not putting a downer or anything – but IF Ben Arfa leaves – it will be for enormous money, and I wonder whether we are lining up Belhanda as a possibly replacement.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    torq

    maybe we are getting him to play alongside HBA…give him the trophies he wants.

  • 18 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    i think i’m just dreaming again though

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    I’d be absolutely furious if Pardew allowed this. Benny is a once in a generation player.

    Ben Arfa = skill, pace, assists, creativity, flair and a fair amount of goals. Plus he is the poster boy of our French contingent. I was lucky enough to witness the wonder goals v Bolton and Blackburn.

    Carroll is just a big, injury prone, non – scoring, dark age target man and hoof ball magnet, not to mention a constant off field worry.

    I’m not holding the money issue against him as in truth we would all have done the same probably. Trebling your wages is human nature. Being a Geordie, however, should have absolutely no bearing on anything.

    Our fortunes have proved dramatically since Carroll left.
    the football we played v Chelsea was the best in a long time because we went back to how we were playing with the 433 last season with Cabs and Sissoko running the show. Going back to Carroll would be a massive backward step.

    Rodgers knows what he is doing even if it takes a bit of time. Similarly Laudrup with Graham. Benny and Gouffran either side of Cisse, backed up by Cabs, Sissoko and Anita / Tiote will be something special.

    If Carroll comes back it will be like it was for the first half of the season with the worst record for most long balls played.

  • 20 croftus5678 // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    we are a striker or 2 away from a champs league team imo.
    next year :-)

    innman has now scored 6 in 10 for crewe even though he’s a midfielder and we have not even played the lad in the first team so shows what quality we have in the midfield now and for the future.

    innman=crewe
    good=bradford
    donell/newton=st miran
    abied=st johnston

    all doing brilliant apart from abied but he’s only played once so far.

  • 21 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Exciting thought sage – but maybe you’ve had too much coffee? :-)

    Having dug around recently – I know for fact that we have increased our scouting since the window closed. We have people watching Siem De Jong week in week out, we have a contingent in Belgium still, as well as having the usual suspects throughout France.

    I’m told we have NUFC representatives at the game in going too, tonight (France vs Germany) but that could just be to observe our boys play. Sissoko and cabs starting (Sissoko playing just behind Benzema). Hopefully will get to see Yanga and Debuchy get some game time –

    But more importantly – they all come back in good nick!

  • 22 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Toon conundrum

    Newcastle can only add three players Gouffran is cup tied having played against the Toon to their European squad who have played in European competitions – and only one who has appeared in the Champions League.

    Pick your three

  • 23 saxonfenken // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    if we have to lose Benny, it is better for 35Mill+ now than for next to nothing when his contract runs down. Just think what G. Carr could find with that sort of money to spend

  • 24 JAMSHA // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Liverfool can only dream of him

  • 25 Blaydon-Toon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Good morning ! Can’t see this happening Liverpool are in transition and are no better than us …. Would have to be a massive free which Liverpool would be wary about as they have already had their pants pulled down for several player non more so than AC but add the likes of Borini Downing Henderson they really have paid way over the odds for very average players :-) ha ha ha ha ! Hate them with a passion

  • 26 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Charlie – Easy;

    Sissoko
    Yanga
    Mbwia

  • 27 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Posted too soon,

    Sissoko
    Yanga Mbiwa
    haidara

  • 28 blew // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Carroll is now injury prone we have signed enough of those types in recent years. Liverpool cant give him away, speaks in volumes. Sign Carroll for free on a ‘pay as you play’ contract only.
    As I see it he will spend a lot of time with Gosling and Vuckic in the treatment room. Only the press and Pardew fancy him coming here. The future K. Dyer.,

  • 29 Transfer Sage // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    liverpool don’t have the money for ben arfa

    rogers biggest signing is 12mil….there owner said he wont spend big anymore so benny is out of the question.

    If we get carroll I will be annoyed. There are target men who can also play football in the mold of ibrahimovich or llorent….not saying those two but that style of player.

  • 30 donkeypunch // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    would be very pissed of if we did go for that deal with liverpool but think theres about 1pecent chance of that ever happerning. Would never hold it againt HBA if big club came in for him like man u man city and he wanted to go. but i think now with all are new sighings we have just made hes going to want to stay for a little while longer plus who know who we might get in the summer aswell to add to are team

  • 31 cestriasteve // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Surely he wouldn’t sign for Liverpool ?? If you look at the top teams in the UK surely Arsenal would be the only team he would go to, he wants to go to PSG I would imagine.

    On the return of Andy Carroll , surely we don’t need him in our current style or structure of play, and can I throw something else in the mix, remember all the rumours about him wanting more money and re negotiating contracts etc. do we want that in the dressing room given our unity, love him to bits but I think Andy would be to much of a disruption , just ask Steven Taylor !!!

  • 32 TorqToon // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Sage – Agreed! Much better alternatives to AC.

    RVW
    PEA
    Gomis
    Bony

    All better alternatives than Andy Carroll

  • 33 brighter // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Ed.
    I completely agree to your opinion about HBA.

  • 34 Toonfan_Ew Ew // Feb 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Unbelievable. Liverpool fans are all over twitter saying how excited they are at having Ben Arfa in the team. He said that as long as the club shows ambition he’s happy at Newcastle. Now that we have Gouffy, Sissoko etc. in the team I can’t see him wanting to leave, especially for Liverpool. Why would we sell Ben Arfa in a deal to get Andy Carroll too? It’s all just ridiculous.

  • 35 Somerset Mag // Feb 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Straight swap for Luis Suarez……?

  • 36 AwToonnufc // Feb 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    i wouldn’t want us to pay any where near 10 million for andy carroll, I wouldn’t have him back for more than 3 million which wouldn’t happen. It seems to be the older supporters who like him saying he’s one of the only ‘traditional’ strikers in the league. To me that means hoof ball, theres a reason no top 6 club want him. The signings we have made it shows we are building a team who are playing good football passing it up the pitch and scoring good goals. If Andy comes back it will be hoof ball every week.

  • 37 woolerbill // Feb 6, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    I can’t see the point in getting footballers in, just to stick a plank like A/C in the middle of them. Pardew seems to take one step forward three steps back. I do fear for our club with this clown in charge.

  • 38 rfcready // Feb 6, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    KEEP CALM
    AND CARRY ON.

  • 39 Sav // Feb 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    I’m not a big fan of either of them but Fat Freddy Shepherd is not in the same heavyweight league as Iron Mike when it comes to cutting a deal. I’m sure it helps focus the mind when its his own money he’s spending but a good deal for Mashley can’t be bad for the club. Between the sale of Carroll and the purchase of Sissoko we’ve seen some very good deals in recent times once Dennis Wise was out of the picture. Happy days.

  • 40 Sav // Feb 6, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    All the papers are quoting The Guardian over this Ben Arfa to Liverpool for Carroll nonsense. And as for the Guardian it quotes no source at all. Rubbish made up to sell papers on Tyneside and Merseyside.

  • 41 ArtyH // Feb 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Sav @ 39/40 agree with you, but some on here still think Pardew has something to do with the transfer targets, from what I have seen its Carr and Ashley, Pardew just manages what he has been given.

  • 42 widowmagandapoke // Feb 6, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    With you Blaydon, offalpool aren’t the side they were but they are still as arrogant.
    The days of poaching from us must end!

  • 43 Owldman // Feb 6, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Mike Ashley has gone along way in redeeming him self with a lot of fans following his January buys, he could strengthen that support by telling Liverpool to push off none of our players are sale we are. Building a team for our supporters not for Liverpools

  • 44 mikeashleyisamackem // Feb 6, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    i would only swap hba for suarez
    ac someones having a laugh
    acarroll should never allowed back in a black and white
    he is a deserter he left us in the lurch at a diffucult time
    i will never forgive him he left for the money shows the lads character sent him to qpr with remy
    let him come back when he proves he can score 20 plus goals a season coz he aint proved shit to me or have it that he has proved shit




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