Newcastle Missed Out On Another Two Top Players Last Month


Derek LLambias should give a lot more interviews to the local press, because when he gives the interviews he drops in a few facts now and again which can make big news, and tells us some of what’s going on behind the scenes at the club.

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Loic Remy – one player we missed out on last month
He’s now out for two months at QPR with groin injury


Today, in a number of exclusive interviews in the Evening Chronicle, Derek has said that Newcastle missed out on another two top players who would have been top of the list, and in addition to the other five players we brought in – so we suppose Loic Remy was one of those – but who’s the other – Siem de Jong from Ajax maybe?

Who do you think it could have been?

This is what Derek told Lee Ryder of the Evening Chronicle:

“Am I proud we are top spenders in the window?” “No, success in the window is not about the amount you spend, it is the quality and value you bring in.” “Looking at our working model, I had planned for two of those signings to arrive in the summer.”

“We missed out on two others by the way. The other two would have been on top of the five we brought in.” “They were not next, they would have been on top.” “We just had to bring things forward. Normally we would not do that.”

“The injury list was terrible.” “I spoke to Graham Carr and he said in football you will not see this again.” “He felt what was happening with our squad was unprecedented as far as injuries were concerned.” “We felt we had enough because we had finished fifth with the squad we had and we had added to it.”

“We keep rolling, so the new players we have now, two of those deals were lined up for the summer.” “It is difficult, but we looked at the current situation and we had to make changes to bring things forward.” “So we can bring it forward sometimes if we need to.”

“In November we had our targets, we just had to think how soon we were going to bring them in.” “They did not just crop up in November, we identified them a long time ago.” “If you look at Sissoko, Graham’s first report was from 2010.”
“Graham knew about him from when he was 18.”

“We follow players for years.” “It is a question of bringing things forward quicker than we had planned to sometimes, like we did in January.” “This club’s finances are strong and we have a very strong owner behind it.”  “So we can bring it forward sometimes if we need to.”

It’s very good good to know our finances are now a lot stronger than they were even a couple of years ago – but we must keep in European competition to keep the strong revenue streams coming in.

One of those players we missed out on was definitely Loic Remy, who took the big money at QPR, and of course he’s now out for two months with a groin problem, and we know we were also after 19 year-old Florian Thauvin of Bastia, who joined Lille – but he would have been part of the Development squad.

And we have to think that some of the negotiations that Newcastle had last month was to line up future dealings for the summer, and one of those could well be Siem de Jong -0 who would be a great summer signing for Newcastle.

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166 comments so far

  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #1

    Go on Llambias. Have a similar window in the summer and we will be a top top team.

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  • thespecialone-ameobi

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #2

    In Derek llambias we trust. Since day one I have had faith in Ashley. People on here think he’s an idiot. He’s not at all. He’s a successful businessman all his life and he will be successful here to. In fact he is. People that hate on Ashley should think about them selves and realise can you do what he does

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  • DokToon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #3

    agreed mutiny…a striker, or two, a cb.. and i think we make a run at top four…

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #4

    4 in 4 days. STYLE. showed off a bit but that was so exciting. who will we sign today? x 4

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #5

    Sounds promising. I wish Lambias would keep the fans up to date throughout the season.

    Without it, fans assume nothing is happening. It’s ok when we are flying high cos the nerves aren’t jittering but when we are on the brink of relegation then its vital the club communicate.

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  • Beattie25

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #6

    The way to keep Cabaye is to make him captain and allow him to join the highest earners.

    The way to keep Benny is to show ambition.

    Simple

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  • DokToon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #7

    how are we feeling about tottenahm on sat? have already told the wife that ill be up @600am for the match, and not to worry if i start cheering in the tv room…

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #8

    I reckon a draw at spurs

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #9

    @thespecialone

    Ashley & Lambias has admitted that he fell woefully short as an owner the last time we got relegated.

    This season, Lambias admitted they made mistakes in the summer by not strengthening the squad.
    We were again flirting with relegation.

    Ashley has come along way since he took us down and the finances appear healthy. But he still has a long way to go before he proves he has this club at heart and does not settle for premiership survival season on season to increase the coffers and siphon off the money.

    Trust is gained over a long period. You cannot honestly state that Ashley wants to move this club into the top 4 where players demand huge wages and the squad needs to be full of quality.

    So far, I have only witnessed him provide a good first 11 and and the rest of the squad are poor.

    Please tell me whether you trust Ashley to make a solid premier team or a champions league contender.

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  • tooninspain

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #11

    I don’t really care how nice a man Ashley is, as long as he succeeds at Newcastle. We have had too many owners in the past who have had their priorities wrong. As a businessman, he is obviously very successful, and that is what Nufc is….a business. Even though the economy is weak, to put it mildly, his businesses continue to grow. Too many businesses are built on sand. What he is doing at Newcastle is to create a rock solid foundation, and build from there. I hope there comes a day when some people have to eat a big wedge of humble pie.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #12

    Ashley has come along way since he took us down and the finances appear healthy. But he still has a long way to go before he proves he has this club at heart and does not settle for premiership survival season on season to increase the coffers and siphon off the money.

    Sorry but look at the quality of players in teams like bolton, fulham, stoke etc
    these are the teams that play premiership survival every season. NOT US. Why would we be buying such high quality of players and international players if Ashley’s goal was mere survival?A mere 13/14th position finish every season?

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  • Edd Case

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #13

    Surely we have a decent shout of a win against Spurs.
    Defoe and Adebayor are both out.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #14

    That last message was directed to Troy Stavers

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #15

    The quality of players we are buying, I imagine us to be champions league contenders in a few years time.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #16

    Also I have never understood this idea that Ashley sells our top players. The only top player he sold was Carroll who is btw not a top player anymore and wasn’t proven and we got a monumental fee for him and we replaced him with Cisse and Ba. Ba sold because we had to due to release clause and replaced him with a more willing team player who will play on the wing, Gouffran. All other sales have been people who haven’t been good enough or were upgraded.

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  • NUFC FOR SALE

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #17

    Why should Ashley or Llambias keep the fans updated right through the year??????

    Why should it be neccesary to inform fans of transfer dealings??????

    You’re there to support the team on the pitch there is no benefit in keeping fans updated on everything gong on behinid the scenes….in fact its counter productive as you’re effectvely informaing the footballing world on your plans.

    Its drives me round the bend that fans think they should kow every piece of the clubs business.

    This window should prove to you that you need to let the club get on with their job and you get on with yours…supporting the team on the pitch.

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  • DokToon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #18

    im planning my first visit to church, aka st james, next season, and would much rather be in the prem, then see us down is all…

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #19

    NUFC FOR SALE

    Yeah exactly. The whole idea of keeping everything transfer related secret so clubs like QPR don’t snatch our players away from us a la Remy has completely gone over some people’s heads.

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  • DokToon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #20

    but the remy deal did work out in our favor, you couldnt project him being injured, could it be disinformation at times?

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #21

    @17 and 19

    yep completely agree.
    i think they have proven they will get the right players in and that they will be real quality whoever they sign so i would rather be blind and no one know who we are even thinking about nvm who’s on the list untill we have signed them.

    maybe after window close they could inform us that we tried to sign blablabla when it doesnt come off but i think this way there is a lot more success in signing players.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #22

    @Mutiny

    My point is, a club our size should be trying to qualify for the champions league. I appreciate you can’t do that overnight. But I have my doubts that he will ever pay the big wages required and fill the squad with quality instead of having a first 11.
    You’ve just witnessed us teetering above relegation and running out of games. These players should have been brought in when we were 5th last season and pushed on but again he gambled and tried to do it on the cheap.

    When I say premier league survival I mean anything from 7th to 17th.

    To progress and play in Europe requires more investment. Europa to a lesser extent but it still requires a bigger stronger squad full of quality.

    I just don’t have blind faith that Ashley will try and take us to those levels as I haven’t seen any evidence of it.

    We won’t qualify for Europe this season and that was down to lack of investment at the right time.

    If we hasn’t been teetering with relegation then I doubt if the players he brought in would have been bought.

    Lets see in the summer. I base my opinions on what I’ve witnessed not on blind faith. 😉

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  • John Tudor

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #23

    simple polite statements would be all i required not any itk crap at the end of the season jugements would be made

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #24

    Re-post from last thread Good post Dom @ Colchester ! Ps I live in Ipswich do you go too many games ?

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  • thespecialone-ameobi

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #25

    In my view Ashley does want us to be a top four club on a strict wage bill, arsenal done it didnt they with all their French players surely we can do as well. People forget our team is quite young still and is just getting better and better

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #26

    @Nufc

    I’m not asking for the club to tell us every piece of detail but for months now whilst we’ve been struggling we’ve heard nothing from the club.

    The fans want to be reassured that when a window is approaching then we are looking to strengthen.

    No one had any idea whether we were going to or not. We could only base it on the previous window in the summer which was a damp squib and players like Cabaye expressed their disapproval.

    What is wrong with communication in a controlled way?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #27

    toonincheeck,
    If you think that it’s unfair to criticize the board after last summer’s fiasco,then I have to take it that you have enjoyed watching exactly the same players minus injuries serve up the dross wevsaw at home to Villa,Norwich,QPR etc.

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  • Jamiemac

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #28

    Four young players have left Newcastle United by mutual consent, the Club has confirmed.

    Teenagers Marcus Maddison, Michael Riley, JJ Hooper and Dennis Knight were all part of last season’s Premier Academy League Group D title-winning team and had been involved at under-21 level.

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  • thespecialone-ameobi

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #29

    If Ashley didnt want us to be a top four team why would we have a team full off world class players. Cabaye tiote when on form. Sissoko Ben arfa colcinni krul cisse who will come good mbwia. That is a world class team and don’t forget we have Anita who will be a star to and lets not forget our very own messi the one and only shollaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ameobi

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #30

    lol @ sammy ameobi duped by fake zlatan story about him asking kids in paris to give him money haha

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #31

    Thespecialone

    You are assuming again. Until I see evidence of it then I have to base it on what I’ve witnessed.

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  • TorqToon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #32

    Edd – Adebayor isn’t out is he? Thought he was back from ACON just in time? Like 24hrs before we are due to play?

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  • TorqToon

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #33

    Wolf – thats brilliant! Source?

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #34

    think the way it is atm any word of anything to do with our transfers and reporters for clubs and papers look for carr and co !

    any small leak turns into a deal breaker imo as i think qpr only got remy because info was leaked that we had a bid accepted so qpr upped his wages.

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  • Grantosuk

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #35

    @ Troy Stavers

    For one, he is not skimming money out the club, the finances prove it.

    Two, we are building, slowly, and with mistakes being made I agree, but we are getting there. They said he had a five year plan for Champions League qualification dint he, we are in year 3 or 4 of that are we, so give him time.

    We missed on two top targets, two that would have come in with rest we got. That shows something does it not?

    People that are idiots and don’t know what they are doing don’t become billionaires, because then I’d be one 😉

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  • geordiesteve520

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #36

    Tor, as usual we are in agreement, Greizmann would be a great signing but pricey (and perhaps similar to what we have, but younger). Holland is loaded with talent, but is an even bigger step down that ligue 1 so adapting may prove difficult for some. I personally am a big admirer of Adam Maher who I think Arsenal are tracking but wouldn’t be surprised to see us go after him. Also I think we may still be in for Virgil Van Dijk who was linked with Brighton in the transfer window (which would have been a hell of a coup for them).

    I have a slight bug bear about people on here recommending players and getting their names wrong – if you don’t know their name and consistently get in wrong then how can you claim to know about the player, unless you are actually my dad who for the entire time Nick the Greek was at the club called him Dabidas – a bit like his trainers at the time
    Rant over.

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  • shear-class

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #37

    Ashley has my backing the 2 things that got up my nose with him was the way the keegan affair was handled and the naming of stadium which has since been rectified, to say that he is syphoning money out of the club is utter bullshit the only time he will get his gift loan back interest free i might add is when he sells the club with the loan included in the sale price, he is running the club as it should have been run, before he bought off sheperd and hall

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #38

    Ashley has made some huge errors with the fans, and some with the team. But he has also brought us forward in many ways to. The key here is learning from his mistakes, and this window has been an improvement on last time we went down, so the proof will be the summer. For now he appears to be learning.

    As for having the clubs best interest at heart, I think for the moment it is aligned with his own personal interest, so we will see the benefit. As long as he grows NUFC the club and brand, his Sports Direct brand will grow to. Win Win.

    If he keeps strengthening the club, both in terms of a business and a sports team, then he has my backing.

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  • toonLYF

    Feb 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #39

    I can’t wait to sit at St James Park and watch our team be led out by Yohan Cabaye wearing the captains arm band. People talk about all of our bargain buys…he is the biggest bargain at just over £4m. Our best and most important player. If he stays here for many years he will become an NUFC legend in the same calibre of Speed, Robert, Lee, Given etc.

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  • toonincheek

    Feb 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #40

    Of course Ashley wants us to be a top four club.
    But he has also said – NUFC cannot compete with the big spenders.
    As we NUFCers are genuine people, I think most of us don’t really want a rich billionaire a la ManC or, a few years ago, Chelski, to come in and take over our club.
    It’s not the kind of club we are.

    Life is great with something to complain about – and a cold beer while you do.

    We have to trust in Carr (et al) to come up with quality at sensible prices –
    and UEFA to follow through with their stated FFP policies.

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