LLambias Wants Stability, Dutch Players – Pardew Wants Carroll

There was a great set of interviews in the Evening Chronicle with Derek LLambias yesterday, and with Alan Pardew’s press conference for the Spurs game yesterday afternoon, there was a lot of new news about Newcastle yesterday.

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Andy Carroll – while playing for England

And one of the things Derek LLambias talked about was that the club wants stability, and most other clubs would have sacked their manager if he had won only two games of thirteen in the league and lost ten of those games.

But not Newcastle these days, and Derek LLambias wants stability at Newcastle United:

“The club has never had stability. It needs it. This is too big a club not to have stability.” “Do we want to find ourselves in a situation when we have a manager for 15 or 20 years? Absolutely. If the manager works, we work. You cannot get any better than that. Eventually you will bring to the club what it has been crying out for. Stability is a big thing for us.”

And in earlier interviews LLambias had talked about doing business in Holland this summer, and that’s a slight change from nearly all of the transfer business we have done recently – which has been in France.

And Alan Pardew didn’t seem to agree completely with that transfer philosophy:

“That’s a view that he has – it’s not something that I personally hold. All the markets are open to us and whatever becomes available, we will take the best option we think is there.”

We’re sure that Alan Pardew will want to bring big Andy Carroll back to Newcastle in the summer, but he could be out of the price range for Newcastle, especially when there are strikers like Wilfried Bony and Ricky van Wolfswinkel who can be brought in from the continent for less money than Liverpool will want for big Andy.

We also think Liverpool will prefer to sell Andy to a club other than Newcastle, because there will be comparisons of how much Andy cost them for a paltry two and a half years after paying £35M for him in cash just over two years ago, plus the ridiculous £80K/week wages Liverpool have been paying the Geordie lad.

We may still see Andy Carroll return this summer, but we think the fee would need to be around £10M or less.

What do you think?

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90 comments so far

  • brian kilclines pony tail

    Feb 8, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    Comment #1

    can someone please point out where in the actual interviews it says that pardew wants carroll?
    all i can find is a bit about a source close to carrolll says he will consider his options at the end of the season.

  • weg

    Feb 8, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #2

    I cannot see Carroll returning to the Toon unless he runs down his contract at Liverpool and returns on a free. Otherwise, there are always better and cheaper options on the continent.
    I would have him back though, whenever and however its possible.

  • Brutooon

    Feb 8, 2013 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #3

    i would accept carroll if

    1) the transfer fee is less than 5 million
    2) his wages slashed by half

    if not, lets continue to shop in France!

  • No7_Heaven

    Feb 8, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Comment #4

    Carroll simply does not fit in with the team I imagine that will be playing next season. He’s an old-fashioned No 9 granted, but not what we will need. As Cloughie once put it “if football was meant to be played in the sky, God would have put grass there”….or something like that. We are and will be better than that.

  • MacToon

    Feb 8, 2013 at 2:21 AM

    Comment #5

    Derek Llambias says

    “The club has never had stability.”

    Bit of a sweeping statement!
    Funny he only seems to “sing when we’re winning” or is it more like chirping chips.

  • Greebol1892

    Feb 8, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    Comment #6

    Ed – this is just stirring up more Carroll talk. To bring him back would be a step backwards – unless he is signed as a 3rd striker so we can finally say goodbye to Shola. We can get better strikers for a lesser fee and less wages. RVW or PEA would be MUCH better value as a 2nd striker. Cisse is still our number 1 and will come good again.

  • chris_g

    Feb 8, 2013 at 3:10 AM

    Comment #7

    Ed writes:
    “And in earlier interviews LLambias had talked about doing business in Holland…”

    That’s simply not true Ed. There hasn’t been a single interview recently where Llambias has made any reference to Holland. The only recent comment he’s made about overseas markets was this one:

    “We have to explore other markets, though, which we do. We are still going to other markets.” “We keep an eye on the UK market too. British players are very expensive, which is a factor for us.”

    The only person who has mentioned Holland recently is Mark Douglas in the Journal, and I can’t see any quotes from Llambias in his article:

    Also, as the first poster pointed out, there is nothing in that Pardew quote to suggest that he’s still interested in Andy Carroll. He was simply saying that he wouldn’t rule out bringing in British players if there was a good option out there. He was referring to the British market in general, not any one player in particular.

    Sorry Ed, but this was definitely not one of your better efforts.

  • 89Norcal

    Feb 8, 2013 at 4:01 AM

    Comment #8

    Maybe Pardew is trying to add another Englishman, but if anywhere we needed that toughness that English players bring in the midfield when Barton and Nolan left.

    Now that our midfield is looking solid, I don’t see us buying an English player because all we need are forwards and the ones that were available in January command far too high a price.

    Even Carroll will probably cost 10m and he’s definitely not worth that atm.

  • gonufc (not Arf' bad)

    Feb 8, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    Comment #9

    Don’t want Carroll back. Not value for money and also would revert to hoofball and wouldn’t fit in with the new players I don’t think.

    Ed, I love this blog and thank you massively for all your work on it but this one is extrapolated beyond all comprehension!!! Will never ever bash you but this doesn’t mention anything about Holland or Carroll!!

    This is Daily Mail ‘The Insider’ standard transfer rumours! Absolutely no foundation whatsoever that I can see- is there somewhere else he’s said something outside of these quotes?

  • geordiemark

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    Comment #10

    I wouldnt have carrol back at all, he forced the move when he went to liverpool we didnt push him out but when they offered stupid money and crazy wages he was off quicker then a greyhound think he burned his bridges there and then, hes only went to west ham for the money that is all like all players these days they dont do it to be loyal to one club they do it for pure greed

    Ive watched newcastle from the gorden lee days up to now seen loads of players and managers in my time. all these crazy transfer fees and stupid wages do have to stop or the game will just implode I do agree with our clubs stance on a wages cap, there is a few players who have played for the toon who I wouldnt give the time of day to and carrol is one of them

  • Mychal

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:24 AM

    Comment #11

    I’d rather see Sammy up front then bring back Carroll. Think Sammy’s pace fits the style were trying to play. If we are looking to add a Englishman to balance things out i’d love if we put in a cheeky bid for Ince 🙂

  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:35 AM

    Comment #12


    I really believe Sammi is a long way off being ready if he’ll make it at all.

    We need a top striker this summer. Whether Carroll is the answer is a tough one.

    I personally would love to see him back but at the right price and wage.

    £12m or less and no more money than Cisse gets.

  • valle

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:40 AM

    Comment #13

    torque… You had some info on our scouting the other day which was quite interresting. Could you make a in debth post about it, where we scout and what (Names not needed unless you want to) we are after.

  • jonobbad

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #14

    How are you sure that ap wants Carroll. It doesn’t say it anywhere. More made up tosh, have a day off will you.

  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #15

    @ Chris

    It’s likely Ed got his story from yesterday’s journal;

    NEWCASTLE United are ready to step up their efforts in Holland to recruit the next Moussa Sissoko.
    Having successfully raided the French market to bring in five new stars in the January window, Newcastle’s efforts now appear to be trained on Holland – with the club understood to be monitoring a clutch of emerging Dutch stars with a view to summer recruitment.
    United scouts watched the Dutch Under-21 team take on their Republic of Ireland counterparts yesterday and The Journal understands that Newcastle were represented at Eredivisie games over the weekend, with fixtures featuring Vitesse Arnhem, PSV Eindhoven, Zwolle and AZ Alkmaar all monitored.
    United have enjoyed success in the market recently, having lured Ajax’s Vurnon Anita to St James’ Park – and they also made an unsuccessful attempt to sign Jody Lukoki from Amsterdam in January. But now they are ready to make a concerted effort to add to their burgeoning Dutch contingent, which also features first-team goalkeeper Tim Krul.
    It appears they will return to the country in the summer with The Journal aware that exciting forward Siem de Jong (pictured below) is another of the club’s targets. That would be a sensational coup given the profile that he gained during Ajax’s Champions League run, but United insiders have been laying similar groundwork in Holland to that which has enabled them to attract the cream of the talent Ligue 1 has to offer.
    So far, Newcastle’s exhaustive attempts to cover the French market have attracted the most comment, with the club having reaped spectacular rewards in January with Yoan Gouffran, Sissoko, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa and Massadio Haïdara having been recruited along with Mathieu Debuchy.

  • RedMissionBells

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:46 AM

    Comment #16

    In my opinion, the best business we did in our entire history was the Andy Carroll transfer. The lad has not even played a full season in top flight with us and was sold for 35 million pounds. I do not know any other club that has been able to pull this off. Now that we have gotten a good deal out of Carroll, I do not see why we need to revisit the possibility of purchasing this player. There are many other strikers out there who can do a better job than Carroll. Carroll’s game is very 1 dimensional. Also, based on our current squad, Carroll will not fit into our system. Lets go into the market to purchase a striker with very good technique, speed and finishing. Why waste our time on this Carroll story? It is over.

  • jimmysmith

    Feb 8, 2013 at 5:46 AM

    Comment #17

    Andy Carroll remains one of my favourite players but coming back is probably not in his interests.

    I could see him going to an Italian club, developing his technique while literally bullying centre halves and scoring majestic goals.

    I really think Carroll is one of a kind player who could really be a force to be reckoned with at the very highest level. A level above us if he manages to fulfil his potential.

  • Mychal

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:09 AM

    Comment #18

    @Troy I think the way Sammy is being used is hurting his development. Andy’s not worth more then £5m right now in my opinion. He hasn’t shown since he played for us that he can be a top striker. Liverpool will be desperate to offload him as well so there’s no reason we should overpay to bring him back.

    I think we should buy one of Aubameyang or Van Wolfswinkel then have Shola as our 3rd striker with Sammy and Campbell developing behind them.

  • 89Norcal

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:11 AM

    Comment #19

    I think so too, jimmysmith. Carroll could be a beast if he wasn’t limited to headers and relied on service from his midfield. I think the prospect of a towering, powerful English striker with finishing ability would be irresistible to most people. Almost like an Ibrahimovic.

  • Toon73

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:14 AM

    Comment #20

    Another misleading headline. Tried reading the article backwards – still no mention anywhere of Pardew stating he wants Carroll back.

    Could get 2 top line strikers in for the same price.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #21

    12million or less for Carroll?? A hell of a lot less in my book! Given his form since leaving I wouldn’t want him unless it was under 5million, and wages of 25-30k tops. Even then I think there is better value and better fits for the club.

    If we have to buy British I’d rather take a punt on someone who has at least scored goals and stayed fit for the last 2 years. Or even a teenager, and spend the bulk of money on a foreign striker.

    Agreed on Sammi though, I’m not sure he will make it, partly through his own doing, partly through the club.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:49 AM

    Comment #22


    “Almost like an Ibrahimovich” If that is the case Bramble is almost like a Bobby Moore. Ibrahimovich has more talent in his massive hooter than Andy has. While Andy did well for us when he was here, we have moved on and he has gone backwards. I see him staying at West Ham, but for substantially less then the 17mill fee already set out in the loan deal.

  • dikko750

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    Comment #23

    I don’t post that often and usually like reading the debates that go on on the forum with a great set of fans. But I’d like to stick my two pence worth in if you all don’t mind.
    I like AC, don’t think he really wanted to leave in the first place and was more pushed out the door to an extent. The money was far to good to turn down which is understandable why the club wanted him to leave. I think he was a big part of Newcastles plans until Liverpool put the ridiculous offer in.
    I would happily see AC back in the toon shirt, wheather there is any truth in this story at all, he holds the ball up well, knocks the ball on well from crosses (&hoof balls) and isn’t particularly bad with the ball at his feet. (still alot of room for improvement)
    He could give a different avenue for types of play, as much as I like Shola I’d rather see AC up front with Cisse and A.nother. We all have our starting line up at the minute but AC could be a valuable player to bring in if any attacking player comes injured or to switch it up during the game. But it all comes down to the price…… I see quotes of “I wouldn’t take him for more than 5 mil” which I think is a bit unfair on the lad. We all know what he is capable of and how well he played when he was here the last time. Also he is a lad that plays with his heart on his sleeve and would bend over backwards to see us achieve something. 10mil – 15 mil I think is a fair price. Why not?! still means we are still 15 mil up on the deal and brings a bit more ‘laughable press’ aimed towards Liverpool. Cause lets be fair we all like a good laugh at them.

  • Tsunki

    Feb 8, 2013 at 6:57 AM

    Comment #24

    I agree the article is extruded beyond its credibility point but Ed churns these posts out to fuel debate and keep the conversation going and that is why the blog has massive post hits.

    The likes of jonnobad, the perennial cretin who never made a contributory comment in living memory, would do well not to crouch over the blog and pounce only occasionally to make a derogatory comment about it.

    Sorry if I insulted any cretins I’m sure there are some nice ones out there.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:02 AM

    Comment #25


    In your mind, what constitutes a 10-15mill striker? Someone who has scored 1 this season? A player who has missed almost half of the last 24 months injured? A player who has only looked good at the top level for 6 months of his career?

    Danny Graham has scored more and performed more consistently at the top level than Carroll. He was 5.5million.

    If Carroll had never played for us, or wasn’t a geordie, nobody on here would be interested.

  • geordie@bergen_norway

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:10 AM

    Comment #26

    Does anyone know the market price for Jordan Rhodes? 18 goals in 36 apps for Blackburn this season. Has yet to show his potential in the prem though…

  • beddersmag

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #27

    Totally agree with dikko. We need a target man option as i have given up on shola ever being consistently good. Good idea to have geordies in team and hes best target man around when fit imo. Id pay up to 12-15m if proves fitness and gets through medical.he will raise his game 20% in toon shirt and sweat blood for us

  • geordie@bergen_norway

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #28

    * Correction: 18 goal in 26 apps, not 36.

  • sphinxhunter

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    Comment #29

    Not more than 6M, and 40K/wk. So much better elsewhere.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Comment #30


    I think Blackburn paid 6-7million for him, so you would probably be looking at paying 10mill, although hype has died down on him since his Huddersfield days.

  • geordie@bergen_norway

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    Comment #31


    Ok, then i’d rather take Shane Long at the same price 🙂

  • dikko750

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #32

    yes… those are what consitutes to me a £10-15mil striker….. glad to see you read the whole of my post :/

  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #33

    I think there are target men who would be more effective elsewhere in Europe. Players who are good enough at hold up and aerial play but also much more talented that AC on the ground.

    Look at Ibrahimovich, Llorente, Gomis, etc….these are the style of player we should get to be a target man. Somebody who can win the ball in the air but also be much more effective when we want to pass it around the floor. at our worst this season 18% were long balls so 82% of the time we still need somebody to play on the deck….and that was at our worst. We have played much better stuff this last 2 games.

  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #34


    I think for 10-15 million we were looking at players with a much better record.

    I get your point, by back at say 10 mil, still made a 25 profit on him.

    But if you sold a car worth 10k for 35k would you buy it back for 10k or would you buy a better car for 10k if it was available?

  • johng5

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #35

    The day after we sold AC to Liverpool if anybody said 2 years later we will buy him back for 10 mil everybody would snap ya hand off for it. Dikka I agree with what ya said. If him and cisse played I could see that being a deadly partnership

  • dikko750

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    Comment #36


    also would you rather have Remy or Carroll?

  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Comment #37


    The thing is though it’s not the day after we sold carroll….its 2 years after.

    In that time he went from scoring 1 in 2 for us and bullying defenses to hardly scoring for liverpool or west ham and being injured 50% of the time.

    To continue my car analogy…would you sell a good car for silly money then buy it back 2 years later when it spent half its time in the garage getting fixed with no guarantee it will ever work properly again?

  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Comment #38

    I don’t believe Ed deserves the criticism he’s getting bearing in mind the following article in November;

    Alan Pardew is convinced that Andy Carroll will return to play for Newcastle United despite his failure to re-sign the striker from Liverpool in the summer.

    Newcastle never came close to matching the £17 million asking price for Carroll, instead hoping his desire to come back to his native North East would force Liverpool to sell him to them for just £12 million.

    Carroll instead joined West Ham on a season’s loan with the option of a permanent switch should the club stay in the Premier League, yet Pardew seems to think the England international still wants to play for Newcastle.

    Newcastle sold their No?9 to Liverpool for a British record £35 million in January 2011, using the money to rebuild their squad, but Pardew remains a huge fan of the striker and believes he is still pining for his home city despite a successful start to life in east London.

    “He’s a Geordie and I think he misses the city, this is his home and at some point I hope he does come back here,” said Pardew, who will also welcome his former Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan back to St James’ Park on Sunday.

    “Whether that’s in my time I don’t know. I like him, I like working with him, he was brilliant for me. He’s one of the best No?9s out there.

    “There was a point in the summer when I thought we were going to get him. We were in there because he brings something different to the table to what we have got and we could probably do with another striker.

    “He’s a Liverpool player and not wanted so at some point he’s going to move permanently. I’d like to think we’ll be in the mix for that.”

    Carroll was taunted relentlessly when he came back with Liverpool last season and left the pitch looking close to tears, but Pardew insists the bond between them remains as strong as ever.

    “I’ve always stuck up for him and I still think he has a role for England,” he added. “There are times and periods in international games where an England No?9 can still be a massive threat.

    “People keep talking about the modern game, a loose No?9, the way Spain and Barcelona play, but there is still a place at the highest possible level for a player of Andy’s qualities.

    “The position we are in is because we used the money from Andy’s sale well. He was a brilliant player for us, but the fee was astronomical. We’ve used it well and we owe a great debt to him.”

  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #39


    I wouldn’t want either now…but it terms of style and quality I’d take remy every time.

  • dikko750

    Feb 8, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #40


    yes I do see your point, but im looking at it more of a ‘wanting to be here’ player. The players we have brought in all seem to want to play for the club, he is another I think who does/did. We know how he plays, players like Sissoko and Cabaye can bring the best out of someone like AC. If Nolan can do it they deffo can


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