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Magpies Well Positioned To Move Up The League Table

4:57 pm, Sunday, February 10th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 159 Comments

We were kind of hoping for a draw in this afternoon’s Aston Villa vs West Ham game, but Villa won 2-1, and it was the first time they had won a league game since they beat Liverpool 3-1 at Anfield on December 15th – that’s 10 league games in total, so a great win today for Aston Villa.

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Alan Pardew – confident Newcastle can pull away from the drop zone

And we hope that Villa can stay up, although their win now puts them just 3 points behind Newcastle on 24 points, and Reading drop to third bottom one point worse off than Villa, and Newcastle are now only 4 points above the drop zone.

But West Ham remain in 11th place on 30 points, so Newcastle are only 3 points out of 11th place – 4 points if you include goal difference, so a couple of wins in our next two games and that should see us rise up the league table fairly quickly – and the fact is that 9 teams at least are in the relegation scrap this season, and that includes the Magpies.

West Ham are not doing too well at the moment, and in their last 6 league games they have only one win and one draw, and they have to face Tottenham, Manchester United and Chelsea in three of their next four league games.

Newcastle need to keep playing well like we’ve done in the last three games since the Reading disaster, and hopefully against the lesser sides coming up on our schedule, we can get some wins, such as at home to Southampton two weeks today.

And in order to guarantee that we have over 52,000 mad screaming Geordies in the remaining 6 league games at St. James’ Park, the club have wisely offered a 6 game package.

Here is the information taken directly from the Newcastle web site:

Newcastle United launched a new Six-Game Package earlier this week, where fans can secure their seat for the remaining home fixtures, in addition to getting a ticket for the Tyne-Wear derby absolutely free. This package is now available online and can be purchased by Members and season ticket holders by clicking here.

Anyone who is not a Member or season ticket holder is also able to purchase online by creating an account and adding a Membership and the Six-Game Package to their basket. The Six-Game Package includes all of United’s remaining home league matches, however fans only pay for five fixtures – receiving this season’s biggest game, against Sunderland, absolutely free.

The tickets start from just £110 for adults and £55 for juniors and can be bought online by clicking here, at the Box Office located within the St. James’ Park Official Club Store or by calling 0844 372 1892. The package has been launched as Newcastle United aim to fill St. James’ Park for the final six games of the season following the explosive atmosphere that led to the Magpies’ 3-2 win over Chelsea on Saturday.

Last season, tickets for the Sunderland game were sold out to Members and did not go on general sale, so purchasing this package is the best way for fans to secure their place at this highly anticipated fixture. Other games included in the package are Arsenal, Liverpool, Fulham, Stoke and Southampton – several of which have been sell-out games in previous years.

The Six-Game Package is limited to two per Member.

It’s a terrific deal and a chance to cheer on the lads to safety.

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159 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    I’ll be in UK for the scum game, just wouldn’t miss it lol. At least that’s a fairly safe bet for 3 points!!

    The new boys thought the atmosphere for the Chelsea game was a bit good – just wait until kick-off against the unwashed, they wont believe it. Cant hear yourself think, let alone what Pardew is shouting lol

  • 2 Crawfordladd17 // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    I think we will bet the Saints which can lift us above Fulham, Mackems, Norwich, Southampton, only 1 point behind west Ham.
    Think Stoke will draw with Fulham, Norwich will draw against Everton, but Sunderland will lose to West Brom West ham lose to Spurs and Southampton lose to us, means we go up to 13th above Sunderland, Norwich and Southampton, only a one point behind West Ham and 4 behind Stoke and 7 behind West Brom. I think 3 wins and 4 draws will be enough, but think we will get 5/6 wins and 4 draws, means we should be 10-12th

  • 3 steinhof // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    I don’t hope they stay up and I’m betting no-one else who saw them gloat when they relegated us does either. In fact I’d take great pleasure in watching them sink through the league.

  • 4 niafron // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Bonsoir messieurs.

    What are the last news? How is Gouffran doing?

  • 5 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Rotonda – So what. Jonas had been on a bad run of form – but who hasn’t this season? Seriously. The whole team’s been sub-par at one stage or another.

    We can’t have a whole team of powder-puff Marveuax’s with their 20 minutes of decent contribution. Jonas gives you 90 mins of sweat and toil up and down the pitch. It’s because of him you can allow for the technical, creative types. Balance.

    Maybe he’ll be replaced in a new look team next season fine – but to use his selection as a stick to beat Pardew with undermines your whole Anti-Pardew thread.

    Having said all that. I get more disappointed with the result yesterday the more i think about it. Pardew still has us thinking too small. I don’t like the casual acceptance of us losing to Spurs. Nor the suggestion that Gouffran’s departure meant we had no means to dig out a result. So now Gouffran not playing means we can’t hope to get a result!? They were there for the taking yesterday. And we have to look at this result in the context of the past 14 – not just the past 3 as Pardew would like to have us do.

  • 6 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    I’ll second that steinhof!

    Such painful memories! I’ll never forget Villa for the unwarranted cruelty. Etched into my brain!

  • 7 steinhof // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    It was all premeditated too with them bringing banners in. Plus their grounds a sh*t hole!!

  • 8 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Steinhof. At one point I felt like that about the despicable Villa gloating. But we beat them 6-0 on our return to the league which felt like the sweetest of vengeance at the time. Let go of the anger and let the sunshine in- it’s good for the soul and reflects better on us that we wouldn’t act like that as an infinitely classier set of supporters.

  • 9 niafron // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Got a question lads:

    Is now Europa league a priority?

    I mean, if we manage to get out quickly of the red zone, the remaining of the season could be really booring…

    And we now got the possibility to have some turnover in the team.

    What do you think of it?

  • 10 Jamie McKellar // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    I feel sorry for Anita, one of our best players in the start of the season, now dropped to the bench :/

  • 11 steinhof // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Very true Boater, that drubbing has helped a bit. I wouldn’t gloat if they were to go down, I’d have a right smirk on my face if I ever bumped into my villa supporting ex best mate though!

  • 12 toon1707 // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    I was at that villa game I would love to see them relegated and lose all there star players ( all 2 of them)

  • 13 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Niafron – we’re not safe yet. Villa won and we are still in the relegation mix. Hope you’re right and we pick up 4 wins quickly and things get ‘boring’ for us of course.

  • 14 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Well positioned to move up the league
    I have listed the next three games featuring the teams who have 30 points and below

    Some tough games for a lot of the teams

    And If we can win our two home games then I think we will sitting in good position in a months time

    23 Feb, 12:45 Fulham v Stoke City Craven Cottage, London
    23 Feb, 15:00 Norwich City v Everton Carrow Road, Norwich
    23 Feb, 15:00 Queens Park Rangers v Manchester United Loftus Road, London
    23 Feb, 15:00 Reading v Wigan Athletic Madejski Stadium, Reading
    23 Feb, 15:00 West Brom Albion v Sunderland The Hawthorns, West Bromwich
    23 Feb, 15:00 Arsenal v Aston Villa Emirates Stadium, London
    24 Feb, 13:30 Newcastle United v Southampton Sports Direct Arena, Newcastle
    25 Feb, 20:00 West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur Upton Park, London

    2 Mar, 15:00 Manchester United v Norwich City Old Trafford, Manchester
    2 Mar, 15:00 Everton v Reading Goodison Park, Liverpool
    2 Mar, 15:00 Southampton v Queens Park Rangers St. Mary’s Stadium, Southampton
    2 Mar, 15:00 Stoke City v West Ham United Britannia Stadium, Stoke-on-Trent
    2 Mar, 15:00 Sunderland v Fulham Stadium of Light, Sunderland
    2 Mar, 15:00 Swansea City v Newcastle United The Liberty Stadium, Swansea
    2 Mar, 17:30 Wigan Athletic v Liverpool DW Stadium, Wigan
    4 Mar, 20:00 Aston Villa v Manchester City Villa Park, Birmingham

    9 Mar, 12:45 West Ham United v Manchester United Upton Park, London
    9 Mar, 15:00 Queens Park Rangers v Sunderland Loftus Road, London
    9 Mar, 15:00 Reading v Aston Villa Madejski Stadium, Reading
    9 Mar, 15:00 Norwich City v Southampton Carrow Road, Norwich
    9 Mar, 15:00 Newcastle United v Stoke City Sports Direct Arena, Newcastle
    9 Mar, 15:00 Manchester City v Wigan Athletic Etihad Stadium, Manchester
    10 Mar, 13:30 Fulham v Chelsea Craven Cottage, London

  • 15 niafron // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    @Boater

    I hope too, but didn’t answer my question:

    What about the europa league, are you excited about it or don’t you give a F***?

  • 16 nico // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    I really do hope we take Europa League seriously. Play all our big guns, we have got 10 days to recouperate. Look at Man U today, they playing a strong team and will be against Madrid on Wednesday.
    My team
    ————————–Krul————————-
    Santon——-Mbia——Taylor————Haidrara
    —————-Tiote——–Cabaye—————–
    Anita—————Sissoko————–Marvo
    ———————–Cisse————————-

  • 17 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Boater,

    The class gans straight out the window for me where they are concerned. It started something there mind

  • 18 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Niafron – I hope we go for it, big time.

    I already have tickets for the final and just pray we make it – doesnt matter who we are playing, as long as we are there!!

  • 19 niafron // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Well, this cup was the last title of the club, so this is maybe a sign

  • 20 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Niafron – and I was in the Leazes End when we won the first leg in 1969, an absolutely amazing night. Hopefully my son will get the same feelings if we make it to Amsterdam for the Final in May

  • 21 karasu // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Just so you guys know:

    We’re back to 4 points away from the red zone.

    Our only hope to stay in Europe next season is to defend the Europa trophy.

  • 22 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Karasu – Are you sure the winners get automatic entry the following year?? I haven’t heard that one!!

  • 23 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Toon Prodigy – I was seething at the Villa reaction, trust me. I could have understood it from a mackem home end but we didn’t have a bad history with Villa which made it worse. There was also a few Villa blogs at the time apologising for the banners – stating it was a few supporters that they were embarrassed about themselves.

    like I say the classier approach is to rise above it with a smile. I try to take a Zen monk approach – if only for karma’s sake.

  • 24 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Nico – doubt Santon will be played on the right after Pards brought a player in specifically to give him a rest at last.

  • 25 NUFC_LEAZES END // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    @graeme
    They defintly do, it’s the same with the champions league aswell.
    And whoever wins it also plays the champions of the champions league in the European super cup

  • 26 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    I’ll have to try this zen monk approach then ;)

    Whatever happens though i’ll be smiling if they tumble out of the premier league. It didn’t help that it was showcased on TV either.

    Shocking memories.

  • 27 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Leazes – so I get to take my son to TWO finals!!

    What a crackin game that would be lol

  • 28 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    It’ll be an exciting game against Kharkiv. They’re a very good side.

  • 29 Lucky Les // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Graeme
    I remember that fantastic night.The bus home from Worswick Street bus station was rocking from side to side with everyone singing and chanting.Will those great days of winning a trophy ever return?

  • 30 Tsunki // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    didn’t we have a villa fan on here more or less apologising in behalf of the majority for the ‘minority’ action of unbridled celebrations at sending us down?

    Thats OK I thought back then, when I celebrate their demise, it will only be directed at that minority. I am sure the majority will understand. ;)

  • 31 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    1-1 and whitley bay took the lead

  • 32 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Tsunki,

    Thats the 1 ;)

  • 33 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Feel sorry for shola he could of been playing in a final tonight

  • 34 darrenfletcher88 // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Well positioned to climb the league,bottom 5 with 12 games to go,we need points fast, where not to good to go down,it’s a fight now,I just hope the French lads are all up for a scrap!

  • 35 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    6 points off 10th and the next 4 games are winnable so yes we are in a good position.

  • 36 sidekick // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Nico@16
    We should play our best players in Europa because we have 10 days to recuperate?
    Where do you get the 10 days from?
    We play Metalist this Thursday and we play the return game the following week , meaning we will return from a round trip to the Ukraine on Friday and play Southampton 2 days later.
    Better to write Europa off IMO.

  • 37 darrenfletcher88 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    We are in a good position?? What planet u on??? Where in a relagation fight

  • 38 Tsunki // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Daz – positionally we are in a bit of a tight space. But team and current performance wise seems to suggest we can be a bit less nervous than we were a month ago. I don’t think the term ‘scrap’ applies unless of course villa, Soton, and the other dross down below start to have a run of form……

  • 39 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Whitley bay 1-1 metalist

  • 40 Mancgeordie // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    I would play a strong first 11 in the first leg and try to win and hopefully nil them with a 2-3 goal lead then play a weakened side over there and hopefully defend it

  • 41 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    We are in a much better position now than we were a few weeks ago a win againts soton can send us up a few places and the way we are playing now looks like we can get away from the teams at the bottom.

  • 42 Phoenix // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Think we should put our strongest possible side out on Thursday,and really go all out for a big result,then hopefully be able to field a weakened side in the away leg so that the team that faces southampton is fresh

  • 43 darrenfletcher88 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    Saints won’t be a easy game!! Lets get are euro games done before we start thinking about the prem games

  • 44 eaststandgeordie1982 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    I know it wont be easy but these are the games we have to win and i think the lads will be up for it and will deliver.

  • 45 Jayden // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Anyone else reckon HBA + Debuchy could be our Baines + Pienaar?

  • 46 BDin9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    When you see how poor west ham were today,and they beat us,it shows how much we were lacking strength and confidence. I can see them being dragged into the fight and if they do I think they will go down. Always one team who you don’t see get pulled in

  • 47 check the toastie // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Personally would like to give Benny a go behind the front man, were Sissoko is currently playing, Sissoko can go slightly right, think he would be decent there, plus it gets rid of Jonas who is a hindrance to our football at times, granted he works hard, however 1 goal in 12 months and barely a n assist is hardly a productive end product form somebody playing as a wide man.

    …………………….Krul………………………
    Debuchy….Saylor…..Mbiwa…Santon..
    ……………….Anita…..Cabaye……………
    ……..Sissoko……Ben10……Goofy……..
    ………………………Cisse………………………..

    Thats the team i would love to see start against Soton, have reservations against our skipper currently, think we have dodged a bullet if he wants to go in the summer, defo saved 3 years of big wages, Anita has been hard done by, should be starting for me, keeps the ball great and is brave in possession, thats what its all about in modern football, not some lunatic (Tiote) trying to get sent off as soon as possible. Mr T has got progressively worse in his mentalness, becoming a liability the lad, totally untrustworthy.

  • 48 Rotonda heights // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Carl,

    Please provide one, just one point where I have been proved wrong.

    If you’re going to run your mouth at least back it up with fact

    I’ve had 51 years supporting NUFC. What exactly are you disputing? You sound far more of a sheep than I am.

    We have a great scout and some great players but the jury is out on a manager who won 2 games in 23 both here and had the worst losing sequence in history at West ham as well as taking Charlton from the premiership to the bottom 3 of the championship.

    Am I the only one who thinks Jonas doesn’t deserve to be a regular no matter what or that Anita, MYM or Tiote should start instead of Perch.

    If that makes me a mackem or only a so-called fan, god help anyone who dares question a manager who has us in the dizzy heights of 15th place.

  • 49 check the toastie // Feb 10, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Rotonda – no you are not the only one, Jonas has been poor for some time, all of last season for a start, however he clearly is a decent bloke that Pardew feels he can rely on for 100%, this clearly in Pardews eyes clouds the fact that most of his contribution to the team is actually really poor.

    He loses possession in terrible areas, leaving us so exposed at times. He should have been dropped many many months ago, however we know he wont be, think even though RM is not anita’s favoured position he would offer much more than Jonas if played there. If Anita doesnt start on Thursday then he might as well leave the club.

    Dont want to see Shola starting either or else we are doomed. Pardews favorite player you know. pffffttttt.

    And the Jury is still out on Pardew, a defeat at home to Soton and the heat is back on. Dont really know why people give him such a free ride.

    The i’m a better supporter than you are brigade. pretty pathetic really.

  • 50 Tsunki // Feb 10, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    I really hate that ‘better supporter’ nonsense especially as everyone in their right mind knows I am the bestest ever in the whole world so there.

    …….and you can bolt it down as well, Belfast.

  • 51 yo-yo // Feb 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Check and Rotonda

    You have both given Pardew a mega slagging for as long as I care to remember. on here.
    Rotonda – I seem to recall you have a pathological hatred of the 4-4-2.
    In your eyes AP has taken us to where we are now, you are both in the Pardew is 80% + responsible for our current position and all the other downside stuff is almost incidental.
    I don’t recall either of you giving AP anything except grudging credit for last season and I don’t expect either of you now to give him any credit for anything – you’re both still looking for the downside.

    I think the jury is still out on whether he can win us anything but he is not the worst manager in the Prem or e the worst manager we’ve had in the last ten years. He’s going nowhere if you read Mashley’s comments this week so get used to it and please try to be a bit more positive. Things are picking up now. We’ve just to get behind everyone at SJP and hope we get on a good run/

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Feb 10, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    It’s only a few that have continually slated Pards whether that is because of personal dislike or the amazing insight that he will definitely have us relegated I don’t know, but I don’t think it’s any coincidence that after a few new signings that where ready for the first team we recorded our first back to back wins of the season, Pards has many faults but I still believe that if he had of been backed half as much last summer as he was in the January window, what the the extra bodies in last month we could have been poised for a shout at the CL, what a crying shame our ambitious owner couldn’t or wouldn’t see that.

  • 53 Jail for Ashley // Feb 10, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    were and what with.

  • 54 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Rotonda

    That is a very blinkered view of pards managerial career, which has had quite a few successes too.

    You fail to mention at Charlton they were in 19th position with 12 points when he took over mid-season (Jan) and their form actually improved but not enough to avoid relegation. He was sacked next season when they were in bottom three after only 9 games.

  • 55 check the toastie // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    I gave credit to Pardew for a number of things lately, a super performance against Chelsea, and Pardew actually has positioned Sissoko in a position that hurts sides, great spot and well done.

    I just remember so much dross that his team has served up over the last 12 months, as improvement in performance happens i am happy to jump on the Pardew for knighthood bandwagon, however 2 wins in 20 games isnt great form on the whole eh.

    He has precided over us getting knocked out of the FA Cup by such giants as Stevenage and Brighton twice, am i supposed to just forget these things and think that a man with no previous experience of success is suddenly going to bring some, nope, however last 6 weeks have definately seen an improvement in our intent to try and play football.

    Pardew still wants Carroll, implies a lot about his footballing philosophy. Think he is still over cautious and we are stil to win a game by 2 clear goals, would go as far to say we were lucky 2nd half at Villa, hanging onto a lead, Chelsea game, well done played well, as well as i have seen us play in many a year, more of the same needed.

    Anyway anybody remember his subs against Reading, at what point in your managering career do you stop doing stupid things like he did that day, cost us valuable points.

    I would say pretty much any other manager in the PL could get our current squad to play good footy, even Pulis might start playing it on the deck.

  • 56 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Lets not forget our two cup exits this season – one against manu away and the other with a truly skeleton team.

  • 57 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    For those interested in the truth about pards career see the following. Not saying it’s the best, but certainly had his successes as well as a few failures…

    Reading
    - successful spell as caretaker in 1999
    - Turned reading from relegation candidates to championship contenders in 2000
    - Lost in play-offs in 2000-01
    - Automtic promotion in 2001-02 season
    - Outstanding first season in league 1 finishing 4th losing in play-offs

    West Ham
    - West ham approached Reading to get Pardew
    - Got to Play-offs in league 1 in 2003-4
    - Won play-offs and gained promotion to PL in 2004-5
    - Got to FA cup final (3-3 extra time) and lost on penalties to Liverpool
    - Finished 9th in first season in PL 2005-6
    - Terrible run of form in 2006-7 (worst in 70 years) Sacked on 11 December 2006 (mid-season).

    Charlton
    - took over on xmas eve 2006 (mid-way through the season) when Charlton were already in 19th place in PL on 12 points
    - Form improved under Pardew but not enough to save them from relegation
    Parted by mutual consent the following season in Nov 2008 when they fell into bottom three after only 9 games into the 2007/8 championship season.

    Southampton
    - Appointed in 2009 then climbed the the League One table despite a 10 point deduction and came within 2 games of challenging for play-off position.
    - Won 2010 football league trophy at wembley winning 4-1 against carlisle UTD (1st trophy since 1976)
    - Dismissed by club in 2010 amidst rumours of conflicts with club chairman

    Newcastle
    - Appointed in Dec 2010.
    - Narrowly missed out on top 10 on final game of the 2010-11 season, finishing 12th
    - Finished 5th and got Europa league in 2011-12
    - Current season

  • 58 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Check can you explain the 2 wins in 20 stat you quote ?
    If your talking PL it`s 5 out of 20. If your talking last 20 games as a whole it`s 4 out of 20. Not great but we all know the issues we have had with injuries and lack of quality cover.
    It`s this blatantly making up stats to suit your argument which winds up posters.

  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    The blogs on fire tonight, I’ve never seen it this quiet since that OV disbanded their personal chat room.

  • 60 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    JFA I think we are all missing Catchy

  • 61 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Squad that lost in FA cup this season against brighton and shola was red carded on 62 mins:

    21 Elliot
    03 Santon
    06 Williamson
    14 Perch (Dummett – 46′ )
    34 Tavernier
    08 Anita
    20 Bigirimana
    25 Obertan (Marveaux – 71′ )
    39 Abeid Booked (Ranger – 46′ )
    23 Sh Ameobi (Red carded)
    28 Sa Ameobi

  • 62 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Spuggy any other manager would have won the FA cup with that team of Gakacticos

  • 63 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    tequila

    People always use stats to suit. Look at pards career in my post above – yet people say he’s done nothing but fail in the past – it rolls off the tongue. The true facts say otherwise.

    Again people say we failed in the two cups, but one was against manu away, and the other was with the B team away at brighton.

    Stick to the facts people!

  • 64 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    tequila

    lol, and won the PL too!

  • 65 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Wenger would have turned them into the second unbeatables.

  • 66 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Spuggy

    Excellent breakdown of Pardews record.

    Looking at the records he starts off the first season/12 months in charge really well then form slips.

    Don’t know why could be a lot of reasons

    But I’ll stick by him to get things right because in the past we have been a joke. Bringing in managers sacking managers left right and centre.
    Reading between the lines he seems to be very good at man managenment take Ben Arfa for example

    If he gets through this sticky spell and keeps us up – then the future looks rosy to me

  • 67 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Spuggy I have had this all season with Catchy, weird when the team starts to play well he goes awol. There are people on here would rather see us lose than admit their prejudices are misguided.

  • 68 check the toastie // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Spuggy what his record says is that he has never really cut it as manager of a team in the top league. Left Reading and they went on to great things, same squad promoted straight after he left and then went on to finish high up the PL following season, good players.

    Left Soton which point deduction or not were a cut above and some of those players now ply their trade in the PL. I would say that Pardew did average with decent squads of players personally but everybody will have theri own take on things. Soton hardly went backwards once he was binned. Beat Man City last week, 2.5 years after binning him.

    I judge him now, and he has been lacking for me, but he may change his tune and try to win a game by more than 1 goal sometime in my life.

  • 69 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Charlton were already in a relegation scrap when pards took over (19th after half a season) and he improved their form but couldn’t rescue them. They were in bottom three after only 9 games the following season when he was sacked.

    That’s the truth.

    Yet Rotonda makes statements like: “taking Charlton from the premiership to the bottom 3 of the championship”

  • 70 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Wigan this season 3 nil.

  • 71 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Check: “Beat Man City last week, 2.5 years after binning him. ”

    Come on Check – that’s a rediculous statement. So he left them and they beat Man C 2.5 years later, lol.

    Check: “Spuggy what his record says is that he has never really cut it as manager of a team in the top league.”

    Are you forgetting narrowly missing out on 9th position (by one win) in 2010-11 and then finishing 5th and getting Europa in 2011-12 with NUFC?

  • 72 Eddie // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Well, whatever we make of Pardew’s record, i’m sure Ashley and co are keeping their eye on the managerial market.

  • 73 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    I’m not pro or anti pardew, but I like to stick to the facts, and the facts say he’s not as bad as some make out.

    I am however, a supported – of the manager and the team. Slagging pardew off and reminding people how ‘terrible’ he is doesn’t achieve anything. Both he and the team need our support right now so get behind them!

    He has a great team now and will have to prove he can take us forward, and since out new arrivals the signs look good, so lets support them and wait and see how the season pans out.

    *steps off soap box*

  • 74 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Eddie, If Mourinho suddenly came out and said I have always dreamed of managing Newcastle I would drop Pards in a heartbeat but it is not going to happen. They gave Pardew an 8 year contract for a reason. They know he buys into the self sufficiency model. If you read Llambias interviews last week you would know Pardew is not going anywhere in the near future,

  • 75 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    tequila

    Nor should he go anywhere. He needs to climb the table though, but his record with NUFC (barring this season) is very good.

  • 76 Troy Stavers // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    @Spuggy

    I sometimes believe chairmen get rid of managers to soon.

    The majority of Southampton fans wanted Pardew to stay.

    It’s good that Ashley has thrown a lifeline to Pardew as this may give him the chance to prove himself.

    Everton were in a very similar predicament in the Moyes early years but stuck with him.

    He’s now a well regarded manager and I’m sure a better manager because of the loyalty shown.

  • 77 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Pards has got nout to prove at NUFC!

    He has already proved he can motivate the team, create a great team spirit and take us to fifth with a wafer thin squad with very few injuries.

    It’s no coincidence this hasn’t happened this year with horrendous injuries and development players starting and filling the bench.

    He could of did things different at some stages of the season in regards to swapping players about, changing tactics. But that is not the reson we are where we are.

    With the players he should have had in the summer and our first team players back we have already turned the corner and look like the team of last year.

    It’s all gravy man, onwards and upwards!

  • 78 Eddie // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    tequila – i wouldn’t disagree with that though, presumably, they have some cut off point in their minds at which they would judge that Pards wasn’t achieving their targets.

  • 79 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Check

    You could equally argue pards left reading and s’hampton in good shape and was responsible for bringing some of those great players in.

  • 80 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    I have said that Pardew should be judged when he has his own players in defence. Prior to Jan the only fiest team defender he had brought in was Santon. The players he had bought in midfield and attack had all been to varying degrees good buys and had performed. He does need to climb the table and now I think he has genuine quality options to choose from he can achieve that. If he does not then I will cut him a lot less slack but the last thing we need right now is supporters wanting him to fail.

  • 81 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Eddie agreed, if we got relegated then it would be hard to see him keeping his job. I think that scenario is very unlikely though,.

  • 82 Eddie // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    tequila – certainly relegation would make them think long and hard about Pards but, saying Ashley invests another 15m in the squad next season: will he be happy with not being relegated?

  • 83 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Eddie , I can only go on what the actions of Ashley and Llambias rather than trying to second guess what they are thinking. The fact is they have backed Pardew with some excellent buys at a time when many other owners would have sacked him given the poor run of results over Dec and Jan. I have seen nothing to suggest they are not genuine in their belief that Pardew is not the right man for the job. Llambias rubbished the odds that were being offered on Pardew being sacked and was quoted as saying they have no idea how they operated. I really can`t see Pardew going anywhere mate.

  • 84 Eddie // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Tequila – you may well be right, time will tell.
    Changing the subject, does anyone know when Benny’s due back?

  • 85 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Supposed to be the Southampton game.

  • 86 Eddie // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    it’ll be good to see the man again – hope he comes back in good nick and with some fire in his belly.

  • 87 Jayden // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Looks like Shaw and Ramirez will just about be back for the game against us, so that can only be good, I guess…

  • 88 Jayden // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    *As in, they won’t be fully up to speed..

    Or they might miss out completely.

  • 89 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Pards will be sacked if we get relegated next season with the current squad we have. No doubt about it.

    Or if we don’t reach the targets set..

    At a guess, I would imagine the target next season is to finish somewhere in the top 8 with the latest investment in recruitment.

    And that to me is very very unlikely to finish below that mark with this squad. Personally I feel this squad is top six as it is.

  • 90 JTOONJ // Feb 10, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    just watching MOTD krul coulda done a little bit better with bales 2nd goal although some of the saves he did do were brilliant.

  • 91 Troy Stavers // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    @ TP

    If we don’t finish in the top 6 next season then I believe its a failure.

  • 92 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Troy,

    I’d love to get there, but I can’t help but feel that would be a little unreasonable through my eyes as a set target. For alot of these players it will be their first full season playing together. And first full season in the premier league.

    With more added investment in the summer as promised by the board it could well be, but I would find it harsh considering our objecive was 10th last season and we found ourselves over achieving in fifth.

    Top 8 would be a decent target with anything above a bonus. I do feel we would finish top six though. Little harsh to set that target outright though.

  • 93 AS MAGS // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Anyone following Indokaila on twitter he is a journalist who is on the ball I have found.he has just posted Ashley is negotiating with a Middle East party about full takeover of the club.

  • 94 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    AS MAGS,

    Someone mentioned it on here a couple of days back aye

  • 95 Troy Stavers // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    @TP

    We finished 5th last season and had a chance to invest and consolidate but we blew it.

    Pardew was talking about finishing 4th this season or at least aiming for it.

    We’ve now bought some cracking players and strengthened. We have all summer to find a quality striker and if we get one then I see no excuse but to finish 6th or higher.

  • 96 AS MAGS // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Like to know if there is substance in is story or just whispers. Would anyone welcome this, or are we happy with our current set up.

  • 97 Troy Stavers // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    I know there will be some out there who would rather have Ashley as the owner over, for example, the Man City owners.

    Not an option for me. Much rather have an owner like the Man City ones. That way we have a chance of winning something. We won’t under Ashley.

  • 98 AS MAGS // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    But the likes of graham Carr would be cast aside, more interested in trophy signings

  • 99 stuart no9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    spuggy – your stats on pards tells me hes not good enough to win anything in the lower english leagues, please can you explain how he is going to cut it in the prem.?? sorry but for all the years he has managed a football team, those stats are shocking.- certainly not good enough for a club like NUFC

  • 100 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Troy,

    “Pardew was talking about finishing 4th this season or at least aiming for it.”

    This talk was before he realised he wasn’t going to be backed by the board. He shouted all summer for signings, but when we only signed Anita he quickly lowered expectations to tenth as a realistic expectation with our added Europa games.

    I felt sorry for the bloke actually, he was pretty much forced to big the kids up because it’s all he had really if we were to encounter any ample amount of injuries.

    And we know what happened there..

  • 101 Troy Stavers // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    @TP

    That’s not true.

    He was talking about it in November.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20183213

  • 102 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    stuart: “spuggy – your stats on pards tells me hes not good enough to win anything in the lower english leagues, please can you explain how he is going to cut it in the prem”

    How is winning multiple promotions in the lower leagues not good enough? Actually I can’t be bothered with people who ignore evidence. Move on.

  • 103 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Troy,

    I thought you were on about last summer when he was talking up finishing high up the table.

    I havn’t read that interview from November, bless him. He wasn’t to know the run he was about to go on. I bet he regrets that whole heartedly.

  • 104 West_End_TooN // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Am with Spuggy on this Pardews record speaks for its self people seem to don’t remember last season wen we only had Colo Willo Taylor Raylor and finishing 5th every1 just wants to jump on the band wagon the truth is he’s as good as were gonna get we aint gonna get Mourinio or Ferguson or Pep he’s a good Manager and had Limited resorces wen he’s been here with me I’m a Nufc supporter through and through a get behind my team and manager not like yous plastic supporters moanin about anything!

  • 105 Spuggy // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Here here westend!

  • 106 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Troy,

    I’v just read that interview in full, I wouldn’t knock Pardew for having the belief he could at that particular time. After all, it’s his job to instill confidence in the team.

    Getting there is a different scenario all together though.

    I don’t think I would be too disappointed with a 7th or 8th finish. I’v got no problems with baby steps, so long as we are improving im happy in all honesty. I will be rooting for top 6 though.

  • 107 Rake // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Any news on Gouffran?

  • 108 newcastle29 // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    @Asmags 93. Yes i follow it. Just replied to my question about it 10 mins ago.

  • 109 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    newcastle 29,

    So what is the latest? Any truth in it?

  • 110 Spuggy // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    I’m really worried about villa winning today – 4 points off relegation we need Gouffran and HBA back ASAP.

    Europa is not a priority we can ill afford more injuries in this position.

  • 111 Spuggy // Feb 11, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Two wins outta three and we’ve only gained 2 points. All relegation teams picking up points of late.

  • 112 newcastle29 // Feb 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    (https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/300757446396350465)

  • 113 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Spuggy,

    We have a nice run of fixtures though, should pick up big points I would of thought.

    Not sure what the others teams fixtures are though

  • 114 jimmysmith // Feb 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Tiote finished the game against spurs and will keep his place. HBA will come back via the bench and then reclaim his starting berth from Gutierrez. We will finish top ten and if we pick our best 11 can win the Europa league. All fantastic, but feel a little sorry for Anita who seems to have lost his place despite being arguably our best player in the half dozen games before the new lads signed.

  • 115 stuart no9 // Feb 11, 2013 at 2:32 AM

    suggy ” MULTIBLE PROMOTIONS” ? getting promoted from 2nd to 1st in 2000 getting west ham up in 2004.and thats it ? in 13 years of management that is it. not even a stupid cup these lower clubs play for? is that now the criteria needed to boss NUFC. Nigel adkins – 2 promotions with scunny- 2 with southampton and 2 when he managed bangor city that is what you call multible promotions. i think you need to look at the facts again. pards record dosnt come close to adkins , and pards has a few years on him as well..

  • 116 cyprus // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:06 AM

    AP is on a steep learning curve, he’s never been at a club like this with the sort of demands it brings with it. His future really does depend on the next few games, as he (all of us) are right in the thick of the relegation battle. All the teams around us are capable of a couple of wins (e.g. see Soton), so AP will really need to do his HW AND fire the team up.

  • 117 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    Pardew has his favoutites !

    Anita and Marvaux were somtimes totally over-looked when we were on our bad run? I seem to remember that Marvaux spent a lot of time warming the bench when 100% fit !
    People were screaming on here saying he should be in the starting line-up ! Some of Pardew,s tactical substitutions and some of his first team choices have been suspect?

    But, he basically did his best, if we take into consideration all the injuries to key players, including Anita for a few weeks, ( Sliding against Manure on Boxing day )~!

    Getting back to the earlier posts! Where the hell do some of you get off, criticicising Rotonda and Cheick ! Okay they can both be negative occasionally but a lot of what they post makes good reading and perfect sense !
    Take a good look at yourselves first, before you start trying to put people down on here!

    Southampton will be a difficult game, as they will have been buoyed by their win on saturday against Shitty !

  • 118 check the toastie // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Personally a good side to Parsnip is that he seems in touch with what the fans demand and want, thats entertaining football and decent performance. Bad results will always be forgiven if intent to inprove is visible.

    In his latest babblings to the press he has stated he knows that some fans are sceptical of his talents, this is a good thing and shows humility and the urge to please from Pards. When you see what delusional self proclaimed messiahs such as Fat Sam come out with then yes Pardew is not so bad.

    I wish him all the best and as i have said his intent to play football has improved lately (even before the signings), looking forward to the Soton game shame its two weeks away, it should be a cracker.

    Some of the football over the last 2 months is a vast improvement on the stuff that got us to 5th place last year, so that must bode well.

    Would also like to add i feel sorry for Anita, he deserves a start, also would love Cisse to start scoring to shut certain people up who dont rate the lad. He is class and the goals will flow shortly, hat-trick against Soton lets hope.

  • 119 Kazzy // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    Shame on Shola Ameobi Nigeria won afcon ! Wud hav been betta if he had gone den at least adam cambell had a chance for europa league

  • 120 Kazzy // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    sorry at least the first leg of europa league cuz ameobi wud hav been tired and not play

  • 121 check the toastie // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:37 AM

    Kezzy – Nigeria wouldnt have won if Shola had gone :)

  • 122 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    check

    couldn’t agree with that post more. Pardew saw the problem with hoofball about 2 months ago. Tried to put it right but he struggled to get results with the players available. Now he has the new lads it’s getting even better and the results are improving too.

    Spurs was always going to be a hard game, they are in great form and were at home. We matched them but during the second half they piled on more pressure which stopped us attacking as much, made it difficult to get out game going. Marv was poor on the wing, as he has been before, he is much better centrally but it was him or obertan so pardew took a chance to get the better player (who has played wide before in his career) but it never paid off.

    If we continue to keep going like this we have a good chance of around 9-12th in the league.

  • 123 Troy Stavers // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    @TP

    I understand your view about baby steps and accepting 8th or higher next season.

    However, my thoughts are, the teams that finish outside the top 7 are generally pretty poor, average at best.

    We’ve been 5th so a drop to 8th would be disappointing. I appreciate we will be outside that this season but we’ve had a pretty disastrous season so far.

  • 124 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    I know it will be difficult against southampton but they will have 2 weeks between city and us, that gives the time for the good feeling to die down at their club, players won’t be as high, we could, if things go well, be boosted by a europa league win (or deflated by a loss).

    As good as southampton were on the weekend city were even worse.

  • 125 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    troy

    I get that but in reality I think you have a clear top 2 in the 2 manchester sides.

    Then if chelsea get a good manager with their money they should be 3rd and have been top 3 most times in past 9/10 years.

    I think spurs and arsenal are currently ahead of us purely on a bit more experience around the top 4 and a deeper squad.

    I put us in a band with everton and liverpool who should be 6-8th.

    Not saying that with good buys in the summer we can’t be genuinely competing with spurs and arsenal but we will struggle to compete with the manchester sides and chelsea purely as they can sign better players.

  • 126 darrenfletcher88 // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    I’ve read some posts on a take over,am sorry to say it but the only way to have success and win trophys in buying it,so yes I wud love a billionaire super man, my pal is a mau u fan and yes they haven’t done a city or a Chelsea but look through there squad and they have spent 100s of millions aswell,rio,30mill,Rooney 30mil, Rvp 25mill, I think my heart would stop if the toon signed a player for 15mill these, for success u need to spend,yes we have a great team spending hardly nout but we can not compete with the big boys unless we pay top doller for players and wages.

  • 127 TorqToon // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Morning bloggers ! :-)

    Apologies for my rant on here during the Spurs game…

    …sometimes the negativity that is on here from certain people REALLY grind on me.

  • 128 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    darren

    Exactly. We can compete around the top 4 with our current model but we wont get near the top of the league, the gap is huge.

    I don’t care about winning a trophy in all honesty, it would be nice but makes no real difference other than a few nights out celebration.

    My ambition for newcastle is to be a solid top ten team and get in some form of european competition as often as possible as european nights are always good and a bit different from the same teams year in year out.

    Outside the top 4 how man sides actually get a trophy, very few, occasionally a league cup win but hardly ever FA cup and never league.

  • 129 darrenfletcher88 // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    We have signed some gems over the last few years,but am sorry to say it but a few might leave if we don’t push on with the games with have left,the summer is going to be a scary time for are football club,

  • 130 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:16 AM

    torq

    My first visit since friday, I get bored of weekend comments, people come out the wood work to slag off manager and players.

    It’s football, its not golf where your performance is dependent only on you as you are in indirect competition not direct competition like football. You can play 100% but if the other team has a way to deal with you it still might not be enough,

    Unfortunately without gouff we lost pace out wide and we struggled to get out and they capitalized on that.

  • 131 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    darren

    I wouldn’t worry too much.

    Look at spurs, when they lost the likes of carrick, berbatov, modric, keane….all key at the time but left for big money people thought they would struggle.

    We might lose the odd player, even a genuine star, but the key is long contracts to get good money for them which we do have and then to use that to improve the squad, ala andy carroll sale.

    Hopefully we have learned to invest that money back a little quicker and we have a good chance of building for the future.

  • 132 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    @124:

    You do have a point Transfer!

    I would rest one or two players for the two Europa League games? Maybe play Anita and Tiote in the mid-field, Tiote looked sharp when he came on against the Spuds, he has seen the new signings and wants to make a point, i think?

    Also feel that Mbiwa is way overdue his debut in the defense, give Collo or Saylor a rest. The Prem is more important than the Europa League! Need to concentrate on climbing the table!

    In general though we need to make sure we are ready for Southampton in two weeks time! I get nervous having to look over my shoulder continually at the bottom three?
    Feel it,s still too early to bring Hatem back in Europe, give him two more weeks training and maybe unleash him at home against the Saints?

    We played well against the Spuds on Sat and got cock-all out of the game but, there were positives?

  • 133 Troy Stavers // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    @Transfer Sage

    I don’t expect us to break into the top 4. But when I look at Everton and Swansea in 6th & 7th at the moment, then I believe we should be above them. As I say, outside the top 6 then its a pretty poor standard.

  • 134 bills-son // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    There is no doubt that Sissoko is some player when he has the ball – problem is he hasnt been on it for long periods in the three games he’s played. I also havnt seen one tackle from him. I’m not criticising Sissoko but if is going to be the outstanding player he can be he needs to get more involved in the play.

  • 135 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    newexpat

    Maybe give benny half hour in the second europa league game before southampton if he is fit enough, i’d rather him wait a little longer than come back too soon.

    And yeh mbiwa should start but ideally alongside colo or taylor as he needs a decent cb alongside him so he isn’t covering for willo whilst trying to find his feet in our team. He needs a steady player to cover for him if he makes a few mistakes on full debut.

    I think put out a full team near enough for the first tie and see where that leaves us. If we win comfortably we could make leave one or two at home before the second away leg.

  • 136 darrenfletcher88 // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:25 AM

    Transfer sage. I wud disagree I want trophies and success that’s all a football player should live for!! If we hang around mid tables the cabayes and Ben arfas won’t be here long, I don’t it won’t happen but 40-50 mill needs put it which in this day and age is nothing, 50mill for Torres may I stress! I no am dreaming but we go every week hoping to win praying to win,so top is not enough winning trophies and cups is what we need to strive for! And am sorry to say it again but the only way we are going to get there is if a sugar daddy’s comes with a few truck loads of cash!

  • 137 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    troy

    I think everton and swansea are both good sides with good mangers, crucially neither side has missed it’s key players for a long period this year.

    Fellaini, baines, pienaar, howard, distin and osman have been fit most of the year.

    Same with swansea with michu, williams, britton, dyer, routledge etc.

    We have missed ben arfa, cabaye, tiote, saylor, all for quite large periods.

    Not saying thats our only problem but it doesn’t help at all.

    Everton and swansea are both good but I think we should be the top of that group although sometimes things juts go against you and you have a bad year.

  • 138 geordiesteve520 // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    Torq – it was a completely valid rant my friend, match days one here bring out some people who would be able to start an argument in an empty room and probably have one brain between the entrire family. I generally stay of during matches and try to post through the week, as that seems to be when a relatively ‘normal’ crowd of people are here.

  • 139 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    Morning Troy,

    For me finishing 5th was a massive over achievement. But we did do it. Repeating that was always going to be difficult even if we kept are team in one piece this season with the Europa games or even without for that matter.

    I think you have to take into account where going through a bit of a revamp. New players, settling in, we are building the squad in the summer also. So the same all over again. Saying to that team i want a top 6 place finish seems a bit too much to me but I want it and I’ll be rooting for it deep down.

    I think a fair target would be to say, reet lads, minimum place 8th this season but added bonuses for top 6. Takes the edge off it a bit I reckon and gives a little more incentive to push on.

    Missing out on europe next season though would be a dissapointment for me personally though I’d have to say if it happened with this cutrent squad. Another forward in and I’ll be happy

  • 140 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    darren

    I like football just to watch a good game really. A few good wins against the big boys too coupled with a decent cup run and some nice european football ties.

    I think unless we have a rich owner then theres no point wanting to win things as it’s very unlikely.

    A trophy is nice and keeps good players but if we lose a player i dont mind if we use the money to get another 3-4 good players in to improve the team as a whole.

    Look at man city fans, gone from happy to be mid table (well happy to stay in the league) to now demanding every game is a win. I think it would be good to be like them as you have good players and therefore better to watch but it must be boring going into every game thinking you will win…takes all the tension of out things in my view.

  • 141 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    prodigy

    Exactly. Spurs went through a bit of a rebuild over the past 6/7 years and it was only 3/4 years ago they dropped from around 5th to 19th or something when rednapp took over before getting them back to the champs league places.

  • 142 Spuggy // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    Nice to see some common sense bloggers return! Think I too will avoid the weekend mob who use only evidence that support their hatred or dislike of pards, players etc.

  • 143 Markaccus // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    Morning all. Have the heed-cases calmed down yet, or is there still a Blog-war going on? I’m optamistic about thursdays game. Hopefully he feilds a strong team, with no game at the weekend its a good chance to take a good lead into the second leg.

  • 144 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    spuggy

    It gets terrible on a weekend so I just enjoy the match and stay away.

    you get comments like “if you forget about 5th last year then pardew’s record is bad”

    It just really irks me, its like saying pardew is a great manager for us if you forget about this season.

    There seems to be no middle ground with some.

  • 145 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    I am no fan of Willo!

    I actually Cringe when i see him in the starting Line-up.

    Rest Taylor or Collo and play Mbiwa in the back four in The Europa League?

    Maybe use Hatem as a sub against the Saints at home?

  • 146 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    Regarding the massive billionaire coming in and buying us a trophy..

    No thankyou.

    We have gone far too long without a trophy, I want it done out of merit and performance. Through sheer hard work not money.

    After all this time, to go out and buy one, I don’t think I could stomach.

    I kind of look forward to the day we do also. For me it has to be done right and properly

  • 147 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    Summit wrong with this! The site keeps wiping me out mid-post when it refreshes?

    Annoying!

  • 148 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    markaccus

    It really is. It gives us the chance to see how our best team copes and if we can then make changes for the 2nd leg.

  • 149 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    @146:

    Agree with you totally!

    I don,t want us to become another Chelski or Man Shitty?

  • 150 Spuggy // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Wise words sage.

  • 151 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    toon prodigy

    I don’t mind if the billionaire is like man city’s. Invested heavily in a state of the art academy and seems keen to boost the club to top level but them try and maintain like man utd, barca etc spend a lot but not insane amounts and also develop your own.

    I don’t want your typical one who spends maybe 30/40 mil then gets bored and does nothing after. And i don’t want an abramovich who buys players as he sees fit and sacks the manager for no reason every year.

    Also……..metallist drew 1-1 with whitley bay.

  • 152 Rotonda heights // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    Soggy

    Multiple promotions???

    Wasn’t it one, possibly 2 via the play-offs at the 2nd/3rd time of asking. His promotion(s?) were cancelled out by his relegation and taking Charlton from the premiership to the bottom 3 of the championship before being sacked, as well as getting fired from West ham after overseeing the longest losing streak in their history and inevitable relegation staved off by a new manager at the 11th hour..

    Carr has found Pardew some great players but you could give him Tevez and Mascherano and he’d still screw it up. Oh wait…

    Me and a lot of other non – Pardew lovers support the team during every game but we are not blind to some very suspect decisions.

    We want the best for our team and Pardew’s CV does not suggest he is the best choice for a team who attract 50000 home fans.

    Tequila you make a petty comment and split hairs re – Check’s figures but we’re not in 15th place for nothing.

    Recent displays have been much better, but little things like not realising Sissoko was out on his feet and needed to come off after an hour , that Perch
    and Jonas shouldn’t start ahead of Anita, MYM and Tiote. That Colo’s head isn’t in the right place at the moment, that Shola should have been allowed to go to the ACON etc, etc.

    While Pardew is manager of course I want him to do well as it impacts the team and I’d like him to be more upbeat about the Europa as well as it’s our last chance to do anything this season.

    Part of me thinks Pardew’s on the right course with the quality been put together but he has to go with it all the way, even if it means abandoning his ”comfort zone.”

  • 153 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Morning Transfer,

    I agree.

    Off topic, but my biggest concern now, is not about getting players through the door, we make that look simple these days.

    It’s stopping our big players from walking out for top four sides. We have to get into that top six as soon as possible or are ambitious lot will want away for pastures new and trophys.

    The summer is just as important as this window gone, I hope they set about it with the same urgency. We have to show these players we are going for it.

  • 154 Rotonda heights // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    Prodigy

    It’s ridiculous taking the moral high ground like that.
    Sheer hypocrisy. We paid a club world record fee for Shearer, as well as big sums for Ferdinand, Asprilla and others.

    We tried to buy it and got very, very close.
    So if you saw our captain holding the premiership trophy aloft, you wouldn’t want anything to do with it. Absolute b…..s!!!

  • 155 Transfer Sage // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    rotonda

    I agree with some of what you say…could we get a better manager…absolutely.

    Would we….I’m not sure, would we pay somebody a good wage who has experience, doesn’t seem to be our style. We could get a laudrupp style manager who has some experience and has played top level but looking to make his way in…maybe sojskaer (sorry for spelling).

    I just think I’m happy to give pardew more time. Football is improving so hopefully it will continue and see where it takes us.

    And what was the context of relegations under pardew…did he lose his best players, have a lot of long term injuries in a weakish squad or did he totally balls up.

    Same with the promotions, was it the right achievement or did he perform above expectations?

    I don’t know personally.

  • 156 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 8:56 AM

    Newexpatmagpie,

    Deffo not! It just wouldn’t be sufficient to me. Don’t think it would dilute my hunger to be honest.

    Transfer,

    It all sounds so dreamy haha. But i really want it done properly. After we get one then bring on the billionaires :)

  • 157 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 11, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    Rotanda,

    You have a point in a round about way. We had investment, but I don’t think it was anywhere near what we see invested in some teams of today. I think we had an ample amount of investment to challenge for honours, today we see teams buying buying buying until the reach that trophy.

    And after all we didn’t win nout!

  • 158 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Feb 11, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    Any success need to be sustained and maintained !

    We could spend Millions and break the Bank on new Players and a New Stadium and get another trainer, blah blah and blah !

    On the other hand the best way to win anything is to do it on merit and not break the bank to achieve that !
    I would hate it if a rich Oil Sheijk came in and started buying Prima-Donna,s who, if truth be known, would only be interested in the money they can make in place of giving their all for Club / Team !

    I like to think that we are better than all that? Success, Yes! But not like Shitty or Chelski! If you take away the money owners away from those two clubs then they would fall as hard as Leeds and Southampton did ( No dis-respect to those two clubs intended ) !

    If we ever do make it into the top four in the land then i want it to be Long-term ! and not one season of Titles and Cups only to fade into obscurity afterwards!

    Prodigy! Think about this while your on here demanding us to spend Millions on new Transfers ! The club did,nt do bad last time around and Carr is doing his job handsomely!

  • 159 chuck // Feb 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    “Newcastle positioned to move up the league table.”
    Ermmm, yeah !
    Cause we dont have far to go down.




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