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Pardew – We’ve Gone Up A Couple Of Levels As A Team

10:59 am, Sunday, February 10th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 107 Comments

There were some worried fans on this site after the game yesterday, when we were beaten at Tottenham, and then when Southampton somehow managed to beat a woeful looking Manchester City side 3-1 at St. Mary’s – that didn’t help because we went down one place in the table to 5th bottom, with Southampton above us on goal difference.

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Yoan Gouffran – injured in the second half yesterday

So we have two weeks in that position before we can start to put some wins together and hopefully get to 40 points or more as quickly as possible, and ensure we are still in the Premier League next season – that’s the main thing right now.

Certainly after the game on nufcTV Alan Pardew seemed very happy with the performance from our lads, and they did play very well at times in yesterday’s game, and we were just a little bit unlucky.

Alan Pardew remained upbeat when he gave an interview in the Sunday Sun today:

“I look at my team today as one that has competed against a good Spurs side who are in a good situation right now. They were lively and we coped well with that.” “We have gone up a couple of levels as a team.”

“This fixture and Manchester City away are the two most difficult we had left.” “We gave a good account of ourselves and we will go into the remaining games looking like we did last season.”  “We have good power in the team now. We will be OK.”

Yoan Gouffran was injured in the second half yesterday, but his shin only seems to have suffered a gash and some very bad bruising – there is no fracture –  thank goodness.

And Yoan played a great game for us yesterday, and scored his first goal for the club, and he has 53% of the vote in our Man of the Match poll,  followed by Yohan Cabaye on 15% and Steven Taylor on 11%.

What a terrific acquisition this 26 year-old Frenchman is for Newcastle.

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107 responses so far ↓

  • 1 fergies left foot // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    thought gouffran and taylor had great games! sissoko on the other hand was noting like in the past weeks. Yes, one assist but passing was sloppy and didnt have the same presence, he will be back to normal for soton though

  • 2 saxonfenken // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Yoan Gouffran is the biggest difference to our team, he was superb yesterday until taken out by a bad challenge. thank goodness it is not as bad as it looked. He now has two weeks to get over it before Southampton. All being well we should also see Tiote and HBA back as well

  • 3 kilcline // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    We really need to get Tom Ince in the summer, offer £7-8m and a few young players on loan or permanent. He will be a £20+ player for sure and would be a good investment.

    He is such a threat.

  • 4 firebug666 // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Gouffran and Sissoko have taken us up a couple of levels there is no doubt about that. Getting Benny and Tiote back in the side will be a massive boost, and I can see us finishing strong in the top half of the table.

  • 5 croftus5678 // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    good load of games coming up now with only around 4 games we should struggle with.

    looking forward to europe and seeing mbiwa / hairdryer playing and fingers crossed cambell gets a game.

    but we definatly need a forward in the summer.

  • 6 wreker16 // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Ed please can u get the mobile site sorted. I can only post on pages with polls and can look as any page when it gets above around 70 comments. Please help!!!!!!!!

    I actually thought we were relatively poor yesterday. No player was deserving of higher than a 7/10 rating. Krul could have saved second so could colo. cabaye was atrocious in the second half. Cisse wasn’t brilliant, sissoko wasn’t as effective as before (would have been hard though), santon average so was debuchy. Guti wasn’t great, not shocking though. Saylor was fairly solid and gouffran looked good.

    Biggest plus though for me was tiote. Looked good when he came on. Nice passes, 1 classic tackle. Looking forward to seeing mbiwa against karkiv

  • 7 HarrogateMag // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    I think Perch is in posession of the shirt ahead of Tiote for the moment. His distribution is more assured than Tiotes who seems to have lost his passing skill, and he is always a liability in the tackle! Perch has cleaned up his act when it comes to collecting yellow cards.
    Would have liked to see Gabby coming on for Goofy as, when he’s got his ‘head on’ is more direct than Marveaux, who thrives in the middle more

  • 8 magpie6699 // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    kilcline – we’ve had a few £20+ players here !! I presume you mean £20 million?

  • 9 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    @Harrogate, I agree with your comment about Perch and Tiote

    Anyways, I would love to see a starting 11 like this

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~Debuchy~~~~Saylor~~~~Colo/Mbiwa~~~~Santon~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~Cabaye~~~~~~Anita/Perch~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sissoko~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~Arfa~~~~~~~~~~~~Gouffran~~~~~~~~~~Ober/Marv~

  • 10 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Sissoko Cabaye and santon were visibly knackered after international duty as were some of their players.

  • 11 cyprus // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    So, easy Soton game next, not! We must return to siege mentality, the euphoria of new acquisitions is past now, the delirium of europe cups etc. is in the background, the table is there for us to see. 40 points, that’s the goal, and the up coming teams will be playing as if their life depends on it. So must we

  • 12 cyprus // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Ober and Ameobi should not be near to the first 11, Anita and HBA yes, of course.

  • 13 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I’m honestly losing my patience with Cisse. His first touch is normally class, but then 9 times out of 10 his second touch completely screws him over.

    During the whole 90 minutes, he had 1 good chance, his header. During the 20-30 minutes Ameobi was on, he had a better ON TARGET chance.

    Not to mention, half the time he is off side or he makes poor runs. Cisse and Sissoko yesterday a prime example. Goofy can make intelligent runs and with Sissoko’s ability to thread the ball in, we could abuse Goofy’s run, his intelligence to get into open spaces and most of all his pace.

  • 14 Santiago Munez // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Thought AP blew it by playing too defensively in the 2nd half. Yes some players were definitely exhausted (sissoko in particular) but when you play that negatively youre bound to give up a goal eventually. would rather lose a game trying to win it than lose trying to draw. We’ve been unlucky with injuries but how many games have we looked poor in the 2nd half and ended up conceding after playing a defensive shell?

  • 15 Santiago Munez // Feb 10, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    @Phoenix Ameobi’s one chance was complete luck on a big deflection. Cisse was mistiming runs but combo of Cabaye and Sissoko feeding him through balls the last few matches looks promising

  • 16 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    @Cyprus

    Given the choice between Jonas/Marv/Obertan playing in a LW role (in the scenario were goofy is the CF as he is in the line up I suggested)

    Who would you pick?

    Jonas – Hard working, tracks back, Wins the occasional free kick. Doesn’t really work in Sync with Santon. Quite often they don’t link up well and the ball goes out of play. Jonas also looks better on the right.

    Marveux – Has flair, can cross, goes missing a lot. Pretty much non existent when he came on yesterday. He seems to play best just behind the striker as he did end of last year

    Obertan – Fastest out of the three, also tracks back to an extent, best position is LW. He played two consecutive games end of last year due to the injuries in our squad and got two assists in those games.

    Or perhaps Jonas on the right with Ben arfa down the left instead.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~Debuchy~~~~Saylor~~~~Colo/Mbiwa~~~~Santon~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~Cabaye~~~~~~Anita/Perch~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sissoko~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~Jonas~~~~~~~~~~~~Gouffran~~~~~~~~~~Arfa~~~~

  • 17 ToonDownSouth // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Did we really play defensively?

    You’re playing against the team 4th in the league, with arguably the PL’s most in-form player at the moment, away from home.

    Tottenham absolutely dominated Manchester United at WHL the other week. It’s incredibly ignorant to expect us to go there and boss the game.

    People seem to forget that the opposition also has a game plan and tactics.

  • 18 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    @Santiago Munez

    It may have been luck, but at the end of the day he had just as many good opportunities as Cisse did and he was on for about 1/3rd of the time.

    Yes, those through balls have looked promising, but Cisse isn’t putting them away. Perhaps if we utilized a player that can make an intelligent run, that (as far as I can remember has yet to be off side) and looks pretty confident at the moment would be even better?

    Not to mention Goofy has pace to burn. A through ball + Goofys intelligent runs + goofy’s pace. Is that not a mouth watering prospect?

  • 19 clinta2 // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Wow, we win two games and Pardews already comparing us to much better sides. Fair enough, we’ve been playing a lot better the past couple of games, but it only a couple of games. Nothing to get carried away by.

    Much like the whole ‘how wonderful is Sissoko’ thing. He’s obviously a great capture but let’s let the lad settle for a while before we sing his praises too highly. Although he has been doing more than is fair share of talking too.

    A couple of solid victories in the next two games will be a better indication of where we are at and can be.

  • 20 NewcastleMole // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    When spurs are in that kind of form theres no stopping them. They have too much power & pace to cope with. Much like ourselves if they had a couple of top strikers they’d be much more the finished article.

  • 21 Munster Mag // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    I thought we did really well overall. We looked like a composed passing team who was willing to chase to get the ball back. Without Bale we would have won, although thats a bit daft, I appreciate. Gouffran reminds me a bit of Bellamy, and thats a compliment, without Bellamys grace and charm though ! :)

  • 22 Santiago Munez // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    @Phoenix Goofy would be interesting as the main ST but itll take something drastic for AP to take Cisse out of the lineup. Plus he likes the 4-3-3 and goofy is looking like our best winger with HBA out. Thought you were suggesting starting Shola

    @ToonDownSouth like i said we looked tired and the lack of real attacking options on the bench make it tough to press the whole game but yes we played more defensively. spurs are the better side but Man City clearly better than Southampton and Soton managed to press them the entire match. Just saying would rather lose trying to play positively than leak a late goal playing negatively. Fitness was clearly a factor though, and I don’t think anyone is arguing that we’re better than Spurs and that we should expect the win away to them

  • 23 texasgaijin // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    @wreker16 – Totally agree. In the second half, thought we were average at best and extremely ineffective at worst. Once Gouffran came off injured and we started losing more and more control of the midfield battles, Pardew should have considered bringing on Tiote much earlier than the 82′ minute. Who knows if putting him in closer to 65′ would have made more of a difference, but with 7 minutes of extra time added on, that would have given him more than half an hour in the game–time enough to make a difference. Marveaux and Ameobi were useless subs.

  • 24 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    @Santiago

    Oh god no. Ameobi should not start unless its against the Mackem’s, where his alter ego “The Mackem Slayer” takes over.

  • 25 WWYCD // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    We’ve gone up a couple of levels or we have realised we were playing way below our level? Hard to tell

    Looking to the future I expect Simmo, Hadaira, Willo and Yang Mbiwa to play in Europa Tiote Anita and Marv with Obertan and Sammy (or Ferguson) flanking big Show up top (though I’d put Cisse in there personnally might get him scoring again). Krul in goal for me but wouldn’t be shocked to see Elliot…be nice to see Harps but I doubt he’ll get the nod

  • 26 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Amoebi useless. He almost scored at the death. Wouldn’t call that useless.

  • 27 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Wwycd

    we have better players ergo gone up a couple of levels.

  • 28 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Don’t forget adebayor and ekotto came on 70+ in. Like someone said their players influence the game too

  • 29 WWYCD // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Spuggy
    We got 5th last season without those better players mate. Not saying they haven’t added something and we are a better team with them but imo they just put us back on the level we played at last season. Brought back a bit of heart and drive maybe a bit of belief as well tbf

  • 30 robin // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Pardew, would screw Barcelona up with his style of play. How the hell Mbwia, cannot get a game ahead of Colocini, who’s mind is clearly elsewhere beggars belief Colocini, should have been allowed to leave in January and Perch instead of Tiote another master stroke by Pardew the Fergie of Tyneside as Llambias describes him. What is Pardews obsession with Jonas, who is finished as a winger while more mobile players are left on the bench?

  • 31 El Sleeve // Feb 10, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    i normally just comment to have a moan, but CONGRATULATIONS ED, GREAT NEWS!

    nice that the number one sources of nufc news will be continuing, keep it up!

    all the best

  • 32 Rake // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Can’t believe people blaming Pardew for yesterday…. Pardew made it clear we would have to keep it tight and unfortunately two defensive errors cost us two goals. Tottenham had most of their chances when we where chasing the game when we attacked them after the second goal. As people have said they brought on some good players late on in the game and Marv was very anonymous…

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Bale should have been man marked by probably our fastest player MYM. It’s amazing how no one ever tried to push him on to his weaker right side.

    I think with our better payers we should now be ok as far as relegation goes, but you can’t legislate for a manager who plays Perch ahead of Anita, MYM and Tiote and Jonas ahead of anyone!!

  • 34 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Shola played well when he came on – not the answer as a starter, but he did the basics right and showed up a few things about Cisse – who has struggled all season with his movement and haunting first touch (2nd is a tackle).

    I think Cisse should be in the starting 11, but he’s not a reliable or consistent enough goal scorer to play as a lone striker.

  • 35 ToonAndy // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    What would the score be here lad?

    Team 1:

    ————————-KRUL———————

    DEBUCHY–SAYLOR–COLLO–SANTON

    ————–CABAYE—–PERCH————-

    JONAS————SISSOKO—–GOUFFRAN

    ————————CISSE———————–

    VS

    Team 2:

    ————————-KRUL——————–

    ————-SAYLOR——–MBWIA———

    DEBUCHY—————————SANTON

    ————-CABAYE—–SISSOKO———

    BEN ARFA—SIEM DE JONG—MERTENS

    —————–WOLFSWINKEL—————-

    I’d put a solid 3-1 win for team 2 like…

  • 36 Rotonda heights // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Robin

    You’re right and poor old Shola should have been allowed to play for Nigeria.. What must he be thinking today around 6.00pm!

    As I say with our new players assembled by Carr we should be ok but before, during and after every match pardew leaves me scratching my head.

  • 37 mattnufc // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Congrats, Ed :)

  • 38 south coast toon // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    bale made the difference yesterday as groufan did for us, we played well and showed fight through out the team a draw would of been fair, cisse looks lasy not interested and 10 per cent of the players around him this also hekped spurs, i have defended cisse but yesterday everyone worked there socks off and he skipped around like a bloody ferry, we looked more than a decent side yesterday and am proud to surrport the toon,as long as they are putting the effort in and they did, god no wonder talors injured alot he takes it like a man my god the last 2 mtches hes taken it were it hurts and not rolled around like a ferry, we,ve missed him he gives everything and so do the others around him we now need cisse to hit form big time

  • 39 ToonAndy // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Team 1 has 2/3 goalscorers… Team 2 has 6

  • 40 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Rotonda – I read your comments and sometimes almost think you make an intelligent argument for questioning Pardew’s then…. you blow all credibility with ‘he shouldn’t play Jonas ahead of anyone’.

    If you can’t see why Jonas’ work ethic, experience, covering box-to-box running is being called upon to steady this (much changed- young) side amidst a relegation battle – I think you are seriously someone who struggles with the very crude, rudimentary basics of rational and objective reasoning.

  • 41 robin // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Pardew, is to blame Colocini is to slow always out of positon holds a high line instead of sitting back, thats how players with pace get the run on him. Mbwia would have stopped Bales second goal, simply by having the extra pace Colocini lacks. The players have to contend with Pardews Championship tactics much like we the fans do, lets hope Ashley, realises his dream to sell NUFC and we can get some owners who will rid us of Pardew!

  • 42 Santiago Munez // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Team 2 extremely wishful thinking. I’d be happy to get one of those 3 in with prospects that can challenge for 1st team. de jong probably. think any more than that is too much to expect

  • 43 Santiago Munez // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    I’ve done a 180 on Ashley. Even if mostly for financial reasons, he wants the team to succeed, and he wants that through the team achieving a high league status, not through surviving in the Prem and then selling off our best players. We’re getting some really talented players in and we’re doing it in a way that keeps us financially sound. One of the few teams that don’t have to sweat over FFP. If fat ash sold i’d be afraid of a Glazer type owner coming in and hurting the club. Ash has put a plan together for stability and potentially long term success

  • 44 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Squad for next season:

    Krul

    Debuchy Alderweireld Mbiwa Santon

    Anita

    Ben Arfa Sissoko Belhanda

    Cisse Benteke

    Subs:

    New keeper
    Douglas
    Saylor
    Gomis
    Sulejmani
    Marveaux
    Gouffran
    Tiote
    Raylor
    Haidara
    Gutierrez
    Cabaye
    Abeid

    I also think Bale is more frightening than Messi in terms of running at defenders with the ball. Bale is faster and a better all round player than Messi. Ben Arfa is on a par with Messi, hwever, he loses the ball too much. Ben Arfa also has a better right-foot than Messi.

  • 45 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Benteke’s height gives him the edge over Wilfried Bony. If Villa go down, it may be worth signing N’Zogbia. He’d be available for around £3m. Would rather see Benteke at the club than Andy Carroll.

  • 46 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Get rid of Shola for christ sake. He gives fouls away at the crucial stages.

  • 47 Munster Mag // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Rotunda, you’re miles off in your reasoning re Pardew yesterday . We were up against one of the most attacking, best teams, on their patch. Perch had a reasonable game, and what message would it have sent out if he was dropped for Tiote, who has been poor all season and still takes too much out of the ball?? Guti was very good in parts v Chelsea ( and scored ) and will run all day – perfect for a game like yesterday. Marv came on and did nothing – not for the first time. Your logic is off I’m afraid.

  • 48 Munster Mag // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    I’m not sure what Bony would add to the team, but Cisse is unlikely to hold his position after the summer. Benteke would be ideal or PEA. We need someone with pace and power and height, who can score goals. Is Bony all that ?

  • 49 santonthenewmaldini // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    watched the game and have to say was very impressed with how we played up to half time Spurs scored early and had a good period but for about the last 30 minutes we were in complete control and Spurs could not wait for the half time whistle

    After Gouffran got snapped in 2 I think the writing was on the wall for us as he was our best player Spurs got away with some shocking tackles although Cabaye could have seen red as well

    Marveux went missing but we hardly played him the ball Anita would have been perfect to come on later for Jonas as he would have added pace and quality

    I also liked the look of Sissoko down the right wing as well could he play there which could give us a team of:

    Krul
    Debuchy
    Mbiwa
    Taylor
    Santon
    Tiote
    Cabaye
    Anita
    Sissoko
    Cisse
    Gouffran

    A sort of 451 when we dont have the ball but then a 433 when we dont obviously when Arfa comes back fit we could have him somewhere !

  • 50 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Kets do you spend all day writing lists out. You really need to get out the house more.

  • 51 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Ketsbaia – I think you suggesting Cabaye – along with Gomis, Tiote, Sulejmani, Douglas and other former CL and Championship winning players- should be on the bench next season is up there with your greatest surreal visions.

    Do you plan to visit us on planet Earth anytime soon?

  • 52 Taking the Papiss // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Pardew left you scratching your head after every game? Does that include after beating Chelsea. Some people on here really don’t appreciate the reality
    of football. Perch had earned his place and I think did really well. Also for those having a go at Gutierrez. Bale was his most dangerous cutting in from the RIGHT after getting no joy on the LEFT. Any guesses on who played right wing for us not really allowing bale to play? That’s what I thought. Stop mugging yourselves off. We lost a match we should have expected to lose after putting in a decent performance and almost getting a draw. Also Jonas was the one that put through the great ball for sissoko to square. All those that wanted marveaux to start instead of Jonas please tell me what he did to justify that start?

  • 53 Novocastrian66 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Kets, how much do you reckon it would cost to assemble that squad?

  • 54 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Pardew said he wants strength in depth. The team will be rotating throughout the season based on performances. I want to see Anita playing more. He is more influential than Tiote in my opinion. His passing is crisp and he doesn’t concede many fouls.

    I’d be surprised if we don’t go in for Douglas. It’s a no brainer for me.Don’t forget he’s available on a free.

    It’s worth paying the £9m for Alderweireld as he has the potential to be the best centre back in the world. He’ll add 7 goals to the team per season.

  • 55 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Gomis – Free
    Douglas – Free
    Sulejmani – Free
    Belhanda – £8m
    Benteke – £12m
    Alderweireld – £9m

    Outs:

    Gosling – £3m
    Simpson – Free
    Shola – £750k
    Tavernier – £1m
    Willo – £750k

    Net spend = £23.5m

    It’s possible. We must sign at least 2 strikers, 2 centre backs and a winger.

  • 56 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Kets – It’s all very well chucking out terms like ‘strength in depth’ or ‘rotation’ but good players like Cabaye, Douglas and Sulejmani will not accept sitting on our bench for one single game when fit. If anything we will be lucky to have Cabaye here at all.

  • 57 saxonfenken // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    robin

    Just go away will you, and do not bother to answer because I will not engage with such nonsense

  • 58 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Went out all night last night. No point in going out today with this terrible weather. You mustn’t get out the house much if you keep witnessing my posts.

  • 59 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Kets we already have 14 foreign players you want another 6. We are only allowed 17. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you really need a reality check.

  • 60 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    @Tequilamag

    not to mention everyone under “out” is considered home grown.

  • 61 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Phoenix. Kets is not one to let a little thing like the rules get in the way of his obsessive list making.

  • 62 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    I guess. I’m just surprised that Scharner hasn’t made that list.

  • 63 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Well Scharner is world class, not as good as Xisco though.

  • 64 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Aye, we were unlucky to not have tied down Xisco to another 5 year contract.

    Absolutely gutted that he was released. Poor Management by the club in my opinion, he was a star in the making.

    I only see us bringing in 2-3 players from abroad intended for the first team. A CB, A Striker and possibly a replacement for a possible 2nd departure. (Colo being the first)

  • 65 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Cabaye is a tremendous talent on his day, however, he does tend to drift out of games a lot. Marveaux is more exciting to watch in terms of his skill and passing ability. A lot of these foreign players are under the age of 21. I must admit, I used to approve the rules during the 1995-96 season where no more than 4 non-uk based players could feature in a lineup. rememebr when Middlesbrough had Juninho, Emerson, Festa and Ravanelli in their team.

    It’s a shame that there’s not many english players in the premier league at the moment. Not sure about this rule, because the board have stated that they will continue to buy players from abroad (Holland). Apparently we are after 5 players from Holland.

    I also think we will be in for Benteke if Villa go down. We will view it as a Ba type signing. Benteke’s value will drop if they go down and his price will be affordable for us.

  • 66 MacToon // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Thought it was a great match yesterday. Both teams seemed evenly matched for most of the game, battled hard and worked hard to close down the opposition.
    However the difference imo was their home advantage, the ref and Bale.

    Gouffran was a huge threat and Spurs were guilty of constantly fouling him, something the ref decided to ignore. Marv never really got in the game when he replaced him, the ref was possibly lenient with Cabs though.
    Their winner came from a moment of indecision between Taylor and Colo and ofcourse Bale took advantage, it happens unfortunately. We did look tired in places, think the midweek international friendlies had an effect on one or two of our players.

    Biggest disappointment of the day apart from the loss, some of the so called fans on here, so fickle. One minute we’re going to win the league, next we’re relegation fodder. Fortunately it’s not all posters but seems like far too many nowadays.

    Just to add, Krul is really starting to frustrate, he picks the ball up and then rarely passes the ball out quickly to catch the opposition out even when we are chasing the game but worse are his constant long kicks which we rarely win. Last game he kept rolling the ball out to Santon which caused Chelsea problems especially first half. He’s a good keeper but he really needs to work on his distribution imho.

  • 67 Novocastrian66 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Kets, I reckon Benteke would be nearer £20m, we would also get more than £750k for Willo, around £2m. Would not get £1m for Tavernier.

  • 68 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Kets we do have a lot of foreign players under 21 but the squad list we posted last week did have 14 foreign players over 21.
    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130201/united-name-premier-league-squad_2281670_3061877?

  • 69 Novocastrian66 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    What hung the Villa West Ham match. Two poor teams.

  • 70 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    “Cabaye is a tremendous talent on his day, however, he does tend to drift out of games a lot. Marveaux is more exciting to watch in terms of his skill and passing ability.”

    Are you serious? Marveux is more exciting to watch then Cabaye?.

    What did Marveux contribute yesterday, besides a decent disappearing act?. He came on, he disappeared almost instantly. If anything, Marveux is the one that disappears during games, not Cabaye.

  • 71 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Congratulations Ed, long may it continue. Live long and prosper lol

  • 72 Paps // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Benteke is seriously overated. He’s sooo inconsistent. I’d much prefer someone else. Even Carroll

  • 73 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Anyways, I’m off. 11 PM over here and I didn’t get much sleep last night. Absolutely knackered.

  • 74 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Scharner is a good player to have in any premier league squad and I’m not joking. He’s versatile and scores goals. He’s also good in the air (something that Willo isn’t despite his height).

  • 75 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Phoenix that is the way I see it as well. Possibly one more if we sell Amalfitano. Have not really seen enough of him to have formed a considered opinion but I would have thought with the injuries we have had this year if he was good enough he would at least have made a few sub appearences.

  • 76 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Haha you must be joking about Benteke. Are you Carroll’s mate or something? If we don’t get Benteke, we’ll probably go for Bony. Benteke’s height would be good for us though. Bony is similar to Cisse.

  • 77 tequilamag // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Ed , just read the latest health update. Excellent news and really happy for you mate.

  • 78 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    I made the mistake of refreshing and saw Ket’s comments

    Senior career*
    Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
    1999–2003 Austria Wien 84 (3)
    2001 ? SG Untersiebenbrunn (loan) 16 (5)
    2004 SV Salzburg 18 (3)
    2004–2006 SK Brann 32 (7)
    2006–2010 Wigan Athletic 145 (14)
    2010–2012 West Bromwich Albion 62 (7)
    2012– Hamburger SV 4 (0)
    2012– Hamburger SV II 2 (1)
    2013– ? Wigan Athletic (loan) 1 (0)
    National team‡
    2000–2001 Austria U-21 12 (0)
    2002–2012 Austria 40 (0
    Source: Senior career*
    Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
    1999–2003 Austria Wien 84 (3)
    2001 ? SG Untersiebenbrunn (loan) 16 (5)
    2004 SV Salzburg 18 (3)
    2004–2006 SK Brann 32 (7)
    2006–2010 Wigan Athletic 145 (14)
    2010–2012 West Bromwich Albion 62 (7)
    2012– Hamburger SV 4 (0)
    2012– Hamburger SV II 2 (1)
    2013– ? Wigan Athletic (loan) 1 (0)
    National team‡
    2000–2001 Austria U-21 12 (0)
    2002–2012 Austria 40 (0

    Scharners stats. Appearance and goals throughout his career

    To sum it up:
    364 Appearences 40 goals for Club
    Country (inluding U21) 52 games 0 goals

    Total: 414 games 40 goals. That right there is the definition of prolific isn’t it.

  • 79 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Posted his stats twice by mistake.

  • 80 GeordieRob // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    @Nono66,

    A shout out to all the armchair ‘system’ tacticians. I’m watching 4-2-3-1 vs 3-4-3 and it’s the most tedious load of pap ever witnessed!

  • 81 Paps // Feb 10, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Kets- I was talking more about value for money. Carroll would be far cheaper than benteke. Although I would take Bony over both of them any day.
    Benteke has too many off days for my liking

  • 82 MacToon // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Great news Ed and long may it continue.

  • 83 Super Magpie // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    People seriously can’t be complaining at our defensive tactics. How many chances did Spurs get to make it 3-1 after the 2nd went in which forced us to attack? Exactly. Had we done that we would’ve been annihilated.

    I said on Friday that people were being too optimistic (or deluded) in predicting that we should win. I said that we shouldn’t underestimate Spurs and a defeat would be no great surprise. It’s ridiculous how after 2 wins we go from odds on to get relegated to champions league contenders. It’s no wonder our fans get labelled as deluded when you have people on here spouting things like that. (Mind, it’s only really a minority as most other people actually have sense.)

  • 84 Graeme // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Phoenix – The good news is that bambi isn’t far behind him either – especially in the “Prolific” stakes lol

  • 85 Toon-Prodigy // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    The performance was decent\good. Good showing in the first half. Kept Bale at bay down the left, never had much luck at all.

    Second half was upset because of Gouffrans injury, we never looked the same and couldn’t get into our stride like the first half. Really missed that outlet and energy. Eventually I feel tired legs set in around the middle of the park 3/4 into the game. Mid-week internationals played their part without a doubt. Sissoko looked wrecked as did Cabaye.

    Subs were ok. Unfortunetly Marveux didn’t step up, had very little to offer. I seriously doubt that left up front position is for him after that showing. He struggled, looked out of his depth. He should be in the hole i feel as back-up. It didn’t matter who you brought on Marv or Obertan. You will always get people on here saying well it should of been that one instead of the other and vice versa. The fact is it was an attacking substitution not defensive. An attacking player for another attacking player. He may aswell of been a defensive player though :)

    I’v mentioned this quite a bit now and I feel Bale should of been man marked. I said it before the game and yesterday after emotions were calming after the game. Special treatment for a special player who was bang on form and we knew it. The man to do that is Tiote. He has by far the most ability as a defensive mid by a country mile at NUFC. He is one of the best in the premier league at reading the game and breaking down play. He’s also forward minded, always looking to advance into the opposite territory. Perfect. Now we all know he hadn’t had the best campaign to date but he has had a five match break from NUFC and yesterday was the perfect time to bring him in. Forget about rash tackles and also forget about his passing being off. He wasn’t the only one playing poor this season, it was a collected effort by all involved not just Tiote. Now to perch, he started yesterday on the back of 2 wins he deserved his start. I can’t knock that side of the argument. But he should of been left out for Tiote this game, on the grounds of sheer ability and the talent he has for breaking down play. Pro’s know the score when it comes to rotating, being dropped, sometimes there is just a player who has better qualities than what you have, or something else is just needed in the managments thinking what you may not possess. That game for me needed Tiote. He wouldn’t of had the luxurious space he was gifted.

    I won’t knock Perch he didn’t have a horror, but he didn’t play excellent either. My only problem with Perch was for the free kick. I don’t care who has told who to stay still, when that ball is that close to you your reaction should be to direct it any where other than the goal. Jonas seen it, it wasn’t a bullet. You also have to way up the chances of someone scoring a long the floor from there. Very unlikely. He should of jumped.

    All the talk of a perfect free kick doing the rounds. Just remember it was only a perfect free kick because Perch didn’t move. It wasn’t all that, it should of been dealt with. Costly mistake, thats all Im bringing it up for, not hating on Perchinio in any way. Great squad player.

    I feel for Anita, but for me he is a technical forward minded player not a defensive mid. Who would you take out? Sissoko? Cabaye? I wouldn’t. The lad will get his chance im sure. Starting on Thursday.

    Shola, well Shola’s just Shola isn’t he.. Nearly nicked us one though. Almost heard crys off cockney slayer! Was gutted :(

    Plenty positives to take out the game and im buzzing Gouffran is ok. Very impressed with his performance once again.

    Roll on Thursday, HTL!

  • 86 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    That’s a good record. Didn’t realise he scored that many goals. Good signing for Wigan. Hopefully they’ll stay up. They’re very fortunate not to sign Simpson. He would’ve sent them down.

  • 87 Tsunki // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Just throwing this out there but isn’t robin just alf in a new guise? Not a very good one either.

  • 88 chris_g // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    It really makes me want to scream when I see these stupid squads that Kets puts together

    In his latest effort he’s listed a total of 24 players. 22 of them are aged over 21, so they’d need to be named in a 25 man squad for next season. Unfortunately, he’s only included 3 players who would qualify as home grown (Krul, Raylor and Saylor) so he’s ended up with more than the maximum allowed number of non-homegrown players. The 2 players who would qualify as under 21s are Haidara and Abeid.

    It would be interesting if he could tell us what he is proposing to do with all these players (16 in total) because they’re all over 21 so if they’re not named in the squad they’ll either have to be sold/released or sent out on loan instead:

    ???Harper, Elliott, Simpson, Coloccini, Williamson, Perch, Tavernier, Dummett, Amalfitano, Gosling, Obertan, Ferguson, Inman, Newton, Shola Ameobi, Ranger???

  • 89 Twatter // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    People always slag off Kets but I’d be pretty happy if we got Douglas, Alderweireld and a winger/centre forward.

    I doubt Benteke would cost more than Carroll – if anything it would be the other way round because of the premium paid out for english players at the moment. I’d much rather prefer Benteke anyway, even if I’d take Belhanda anyday over him.

  • 90 nick_9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    I’m the first to criticise Pardew if we go defensive but yesterday I didn’t see it that way, more so our injury and their subs had a big impact.

    Villa are wining and have jumped out the drop zone, we’re now 4 points off the relegation zone and three points off 11th. I would feel much more comfortable if we had three more points.

  • 91 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    The table is as tight at the bottom for as long as I can remember. A win or two seems to be the difference between the top ten and the relegation zone. QPR the only ones pretty much guaranteed to be relegated.

  • 92 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Players like Perch and Raylor are useful to have in the squad as they’re both winners are versatile. That tackle Perch id on Bale was immense yesterday. We can afford to lose Tiote as we have Perch, Debuchy, Sissoko, Anita and apparently Mbiwa who can play there. I want to see Anita in the team. Marveaux is better through the middle and also prefers playing there. Sylvain looked well slashed off on the bench yesterday. It’s imperative that we keep players like this at the club.

  • 93 robin // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Mbiwa, A title winning French international cannot get a game over an unhappy not very good Argentinian who’s legs are gone, because the Manager is totally out of his depth, as was proved yesterday. The only people who seem to think Clueless Pardew knows what to do is the idiot Tsunki, and we all know he knows nothing about football just about Alf,Bob and him over the back!

  • 94 t00ntime // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Am i the only one that doesnt rate mertens or wolfswinkel?
    Mertens is ok but lens wants to go to england in the summer and imo he is much better. Lens can play LW/RW/ST/CF and has a record of
    36 played 16 scored and 13 assists from the LW.

    Also wolfswinkel is good but i cant see how he would drastically improve us. IMO bony would be better or even remy for free when QPR are relegated (dont complain about how he is a money grabber if he was to come and scores 20 u wont care anymore).

    Our team vs southampton?
    —————-Krul—————–
    Debuchy-colo-Staylor-santon
    ———–tiote—cabaye———
    -HBA——-sissoko——gouff-
    —————-cisse—————

    Probably our best team. If we had to play jonas put him LM and Gouff upfront. I like cisse but gouffs+sissokos pace are vital on a counter.
    Southampton wont be easy but if we lose to them we wont get near 10th and will be stuck in a dogfight imo. If we beat them, we wont be safe but we will be in a better postion 3 points are vital!

  • 95 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    We should go for Benteke.

  • 96 Spuggy // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Colo not very good

    Lol at that comment.

  • 97 ONLINE GUY // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Samba for Qpr yesterday ..£100,000 per week ! £12 million transfer fee and he looked a bigger Donkey than Bramble!

  • 98 ONLINE GUY // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    RE Alf

    Alf was Banned and rightly so, if it was? a dodgy comment he made..But when he printed/wrote the W*g word did he not mean Wag ? As in comedic football comments,.aka wise guy crack on here ? He might be innocenti !

    Free ! The Mackem One !

  • 99 ONLINE GUY // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    RE:Alf

    Of course it depend’s what context he placed the word …He might well be Guilty.

  • 100 ONLINE GUY // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    In what context.

  • 101 Rotonda heights // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Boater

    Thanks for the predictable abuse. Newflash – like I care what you think.

    Yes Jonas works hard which should be a a given, but invariably he gives the ball away and turns over possession time and again.

    You can see when he scored by his reaction how poorly he has played this season and how relieved he was to have done something productive.

    Anita is fitter, younger, faster, covers more ground and is a better passer and had been playing well before being inexplicably ditched by Pardew.

    Better players, still limited manager.

  • 102 Rotonda heights // Feb 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    taking the papiss

    yeah lets just overlook the 2 wins in 23 games run then.
    very selective memory my friend.

    we are ok because we have got better players now but just imagine what a Laudrup could do

  • 103 boater // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Rotonda – So what. Jonas had been on a bad run of form – but who hasn’t this season? Seriously. The whole team’s been sub-par at one stage or another.

    We can’t have a whole team of powder-puff Marveuax’s with their 20 minutes of decent contribution. Jonas gives you 90 mins of sweat and toil up and down the pitch. It’s because of him you can allow for the technical, creative types. Balance.

    Maybe he’ll be replaced in a new look team next season fine – but to use his selection as a stick to beat Pardew with undermines your whole Anti-Pardew thread.

    Having said all that. I get more disappointed with the result yesterday the more i think about it. Pardew still has us thinking too small. I don’t like the casual acceptance of us losing to Spurs. Nor the suggestion that Gouffran’s departure meant we had no means to dig out a result. So now Gouffran not playing means we can’t hope to get a result!? They were there for the taking yesterday. And we have to look at this result in the context of the past 14 – not just the past 3 as Pardew would like to have us do.

  • 104 carl // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Rotonda
    Because of so called fans like you I rarely post but regularly read this site. Just how often do you have to be proven wrong as regards just about everything to do with Nufc! You totally lack credibility yet attempt to justify your random postings by associating yourself with the Catchy’s, Beatties’s and Robin type of posters who are as clueless as you. Any self respecting fan with a knowledge and understanding of what it takes to manage at Premier level would not seek to replicate the same mistakes in their criticism of Pardew. You should be acutely embarrassed that an aweful lot of fans are only too aware that you repeatedly made the wrong call. Is it just pride and ego or are you totally clueless. All you had to do was acknowledge that you were wrong.
    Munster Mag has shown that a sinner can repent and fair play to him.

  • 105 GeordieDan // Feb 10, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Ed>

    Great news mate! Really glad your doing well. Keep fighting! :)

  • 106 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    The only problem with Coloccini is pace. Alderweireld and Mbiwa will sort that out.

  • 107 Rotonda heights // Feb 10, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Carl,

    Please provide one, just one point where I have been proved wrong.

    If you’re going to run your mouth at least back it up with fact

    I’ve had 51 years supporting NUFC. What exactly are you disputing? You sound far more of a sheep than I am.

    We have a great scout and some great players but the jury is out on a manager who won 2 games in 23 both here and had the worst losing sequence in history at West ham as well as taking Charlton from the premiership to the bottom 3 of the championship.

    Am I the only one who thinks Jonas doesn’t deserve to be a regular no matter what or that Anita, MYM or Tiote should start instead of Perch.

    If that makes me a mackem or only a so-called fan, god help anyone who dares question a manager who has us in 15th place.




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