Pardew – Officials Got It Wrong Twice – Both Goals Were Good


We have to say that Alan Pardew had every right to be annoyed after the game last night – as two Papiss Cisse goals were disallowed for offside – yet both were good goals and the officials got it wrong –  – so what do you do?

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Alan Pardew – not looking too happy last night

The officiating was poor to say the least, and it was the same official both times who disallowed the “goals” and both decisions were late ones too.

This  is what Alan Pardew said immediately after the game:

“Both goals are onside.” ‘”Fundamentally the officials have got them wrong, in a tight game like that.” “In these games they are the margins. I can understand if they get it wrong once but twice is hard to take.” 

“The law says it should favor the striker. Both decisions were level – I wouldn’t even say that they needed to favor the striker. “It’s hard to take.'”  “The observer has told me that the protocol is not to speak to the referee after the game.”

“Perhaps they should review that. But let me tell you I’m not here to get in to trouble.” “I’ll take a 0-0 draw because a score draw in the return leg takes us through,’ he said.”

“I saw enough tonight to suggest we can get a score draw. Metalist are a good side but they were second best in the game tonight.”

So Alan pardew was advised not to speak to the officials after the game – they are certainly a protected species who seem not to have to be responsible for their decisions in a game.

The offside law used to say that if a player is level he is offside, but the law was changed, and as Alan points out – any doubt there is is supposed to favor the attacking player – but that didn’t help Newcastle tonight.

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Papiss Cisse scoring his second disallowed goal

And we wonder what happens to the officials who make these poor decisions – are they put on the sidelines for a while as punishment or does nothing happen?

Newcastle played well last night, and there were some good things to take out of the game – not least of which was this new Newcastle team’s first clean sheet – and both Moussa Sissoko and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, making his starting debut for Newcastle, had very good games.

There’s still a chance next Thursday that Newcastle can get through – and a score draw will see Newcastle get through to the round of the last 16 – but we will also have to field a weakened side next Thursday, since we play Southampton on the following Sunday – and we are not out of the woods yet as far as relegation is concerned.

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167 comments so far

  • t00ntime

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #1

    if our players cant play in EL and then southampton 3 days later followed by 7 days rest. wtf are we paying them this much for :S

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  • jamesnufc86

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #2

    Marv is a superior attacking talent to Jonas in every way shape and form. To say that Jonas is better than Marv on the wing or any position in midfield leaves me breathless. Its time to wake up people and stop holding the soft spot for the “old” Guti – at least for the benefit for the team

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #3

    Our passing was horrific to tonight, why do we never press teams like they do to us???? We seem to let them have the ball as much as they wanted. Tiote should not start he is a liability and he has been all season anita was starting to come good and was one of our best players and now he doesnt get a look in. Im so dissapointed that we did go for it tonight and they way we played was awful.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #4

    Not* go for it

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #5

    Don’t be daft t00ntime! They’re only human like the rest of us. They try to play at 100% in every game but that’s just not possible. I’m sure they could play those games but that’s what a squad is for. Rotate the players so each one can play as close to 100% as possible.

    If you have ever played any sport, you’ll know the number of factors that can mean you aren’t 100%

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Comment #6

    Not Certain if this has already been said ,,

    We need a Uefa enquiry to see if the match night was Fixed ..have the russian Mafia got at the linesman ..have they had a bung ? need’s looking at .

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #7

    @ Manx

    We say wingers but there aren’t many teams in the PL that actually play with out and out wingers that hit the by-line and whip crosses in as modern day fullbacks can do that job. Just look at Chelsea or Man City. Would you say silva Mata,Hazard,Oscar,Nasri were wingers ? because I wouldn’t. If we played 4-4-2 then I would say yes Gutierrez probably would be more effective but the last three or four games we have played a 4-2-3-1 but Jonas just does not fit as well as Marv could.

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #8

    Sissoko was magnificent and Taylor was absolute class..He’s the Classiest center back I have seen this season .If he is not in the England set up for the next match I will Send the FA a letter of Complaint.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #9

    Is it crazy night tonight then lads? ONLINE GUY – if there was an investigation into every match with a couple of bad decisions, then there would be dozens in Europe every week!

    I hope you’re joking…but just because the opponents are from Eastern Europe doesn’t mean there was a bung…

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #10

    Like I said, Marveaux and Anita need to start ahead of Jonas and Tiote. It’s a no brainer. We played well tonight. Sissoko never gives up. Cisse had a good game. We were unlucky. It should’ve been 1-0. Think the second goal was slightly offside.

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  • ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #11

    I’m glad to see more and more people opening their eyes to Tiote’s abysmal form. He should be 3rd choice.

    He should have been sent off last night. Made a tackle in the second half on Edmar, no where near the ball. 9 out of 10 times that would have been a yellow.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #12

    Just watched an MMA film called Warrior. I highly recommend it, one of the best films I have ever seen. Much better than any of the Rocky’s

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #13

    We’re talking about 10 inches there.

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  • t00ntime

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #15

    @toondarf that is what a squads for but our A team failed against southampton and in EL. so which ever game we rotate in we will probably lose. Not being negative just saying it how it is. They are supposed to be the fittest of the fittest, 2 games in 18days surely isnt too much. Yes some players will need a rest, and we would have to make a few subs. But look at world cups and euro cups etc they play every 3/4 days (group stage) and everyone is fine.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #16

    Stopped off for a couple beers after the game and just read through the posts and have to say what a bunch of arseholes many of the posters are. The hatred spewed out by people who could not even be bothered to go to the game is beyond sickening, But for some awful decisions we would have won the game easily. The idea we have the best supporters is clearly ridiculous. I feel sick reading some of the comments on here tonight.

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #17

    ED Iv just read your into to this page ..Pardew not allowed to talk to Officials.. Excellent right up Ed…

    This need’s brought to the attention of the Interpol !.

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  • jamesnufc86

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #18

    I know Ive bashed Jonas but I don’t mean too ridicule him. I loved Jonas like most of us did , the first 2- 3 seasons. But, its so frustrating for me to notice that most blame lies on the lad when it comes to attacking positions. He’s lost it, either its the pace, confidence or skill I don’t know, but It looks like all three.

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  • stuart no9

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #19

    as i thought – pards blames the linesman, in fact hes wrong . one was offside. the other im not too sure, . its not surprising he has found another excuse tonight, he cant blame his squad any more. so – a very hard fought win at villa, followed by our best game of the season against chelsea – back down to earth against spurs- back to normal tonight. its all going to end in tears if pards is not sacked.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #20

    Kets

    Played well ??????? I thought this was a bad performance tonite our final ball was shocking we did nothing simple and kept giving the ball away, sissoko and saylor stood out for me tonight, cisse should of scored atleast 1 of 2 from the 1 on 1 or the header near the end. We have seen how this side can play and we were a million miles for that tonight.

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  • ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #21

    Wouldn’t be depressed if we sold Tiote in the summer.

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  • jamesnufc86

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Comment #22

    tequilamag – calm down lad go and have a beer , Jonas drove me too it , 5 mins after kick off

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Comment #23

    TDS

    A linesman makes one bad offside decision , then a second ..one of the goals was 2 ! yards ONSIDE !! and the BAst**rd still put his flag up ..If the LINEsman is trained as a Linesman and he can’t do his job when a player is 2 yards onside ! and scores, then there is something radically wrong I would say he has been got at ..you cant be that FU***ing wrong and not be a Damn Cheat.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #24

    PWP

    I was saying that months ago mate anita is by far a better player and i would also play bigi ahead of him

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #25

    t00ntime – actually if you look at World Cups, they use their squad a hell of a lot too. And besides, that’s more of an equal footing. Both teams that get to the final are normally equally knackered as they’ve played a semi final just a few days before.

    Playing on Thursday, then flying back from the Ukraine Thursday night or Friday morning to play Sunday lunchtime is going to mean that those guys aren’t as fresh as the Southampton players. Little knocks picked up in a game can go after a few days, but they won’t get the chance.

    Winning 2-0 tonight would have made it a little easier to make subs next week if we could take an early lead…

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #26

    ONLINE GUY – It’s a piece of piss getting decisions right when you’re looking at replays on Sky and you’re focussing on that. And obviously our first instinct is going to be onside if it’s a goal for us!

    He should be investigated for making at least one big cock up, and possibly another, but you’re going a bit far to suggest he’s corrupt…

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  • El Tino

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #27

    anyone else see the replay of the tackle that got Jonas a yellow card. AWESOME. The best tackle ive ever seen. hahahaha

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Comment #28

    Newcastle Played really really well tonight ..A slow start and then great late in the second half ..Dont care about any other opinion on here if any of you say we played badly ..we played well .

    Did you notice how many times Metalist players rolled around when they went down ..they got that Cheat Ethic installed…. Seen one guy roll over on the deck 9 rolls ..I though he was trying to help the Groundsman.

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  • ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #29

    @Eastendgeordie

    Said that a couple days ago and a couple of other posters had a go at me…

    Anita is a better all round player, Perch is a better tackler, Bigi is like tiote but without the yellow cards.

    How much do you reckon we could get for Tiote? I doubt it would be anywhere near 15-20mill tbh.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #30

    PWP

    Be lucky if we got anywhere near 10m mate

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #31

    I don’t get the negativity. We’ve got our best squad since Bobby’s days, and we seem to have some stability within the club too. Happy days!

    If Tiote isn’t on top form, well he’s not a bad player to have on the bench is he?? The same people slagging him off were probably saying that they wouldn’t sell him to Chelski for £30m a year ago!

    Get behind the lads. Constructive criticism is fine, but as long as they’re trying for the team, I’m happy with that.

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  • t00ntime

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #32

    @toondarf if we had the 2-0 lead we could send a weakend team, but if we send one now i dont think we will win.

    i see your point about the knocks etc and it shows how difficult AP’s job is. Though it will be hard to send an Ateam it is our only choice, but if we lose against saints we might only be 1 point above relegation. unless we win both some fans will get on pards back, so he might feel like he needs to send an Ateam. But if he sends and Ateam and we lose both he will be under massive pressure from the fans. I’m glad i dont have to make the decsions. (still feel as though the players should be able to play both, but hey, AP knows them better and if they cant he will have to prove his worth, cant see us winning both)

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  • manxpie

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #33

    first of all tequillamag don’t ever come on this blog on matchdays EVEN WHEN WE WIN lol
    and big pappa the stats and facts show since marveux’s been here he is useless on the wing he has only played well but more importantly IMO bothered to play when he’s in the middle!!
    for me he’d be the perfect choice on the left of a front 3 but he just hasn’t performed when he’s been there !
    gouffran has showed the workrate that’s needed there in a few games that marveux hasn’t in 20 times as much!
    our next transfer business has too be a left winger no doubt but to bash players just really really annoys me especially putting players in positions that they shouldn’t be i.e anita on the wing!!!

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  • ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #34

    Actually ToonDownSarf, I was saying sell him for 20mill. I was not as greedy to suggest we could get him for 30mill

    We don’t need 3 defensive midfielders on the bench.

    Anita/Perch/Bigi are enough for me, with 1 of them starting and 1/2 of the others on the bench.

    No point keeping hold of a yellow card magnet Been with us since 2010, and no signs of improvement on his yellow card addiction.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #35

    Jonas played ok today but still was not great

    The sad thing is if Pardew had not knocked Ferguson’s confidence he could have been playing swinging in crosses for Cisse to head in !

    Watching Tiote tonight has made me think that he is not out of form he is just very overrated by a lot of our fans
    He played like this even last season its just he was able to find Cabaye better but when he is relied upon to make any forward play he is just as bad as Jonas in fact he is worse at losing possession i

    If we want to progress as a team he needs to be replaced with a ball playing defensive midfielder infact that is what Cabaye is best at being the deep lying playmaker even Perch is better as he does not lose the ball and is a better tackler

    The sad thing is Pardew will persist in playing Tiote and Jonas when the likes of Anita and Marveux would have been perfect for that game as we needed players to break them down how long will he give players badly out of form to get back into form?!?

    Sissoko and Marveux were linking up superbly near the end they were cutting them to shreds and we should have won at a canter as we missed some sitters the only chances they got were on the breakaway and if our disallowed goals had went in could have been 2 or 3 nil and that was us not playing well really

    Pardew needs to get out of this defensive mindset as he is running out of excuses cause i can see us playing a weakened team in the 2nd leg and going out with a whimper

    Thats another thing how can Messi, Ronaldo , Iniesta etc play 60 full games a season and our players cant play 3 games in 2 weeks!??!

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #36

    TDS

    How do you know if He’s not corrupt .? His decisions were horrific man I was right there ..I was not watching it on Sky I was watching it As it happened live..also Sissoko pulled the ball BACK Cisse was in an onside posision Sissoko was ahead of Cisse..he pulled the F**er back ..HE could not have been offside even if I had jumped on the pitch and dragged him a yard and a half forward ..get the picture ? the linesman was right there and HE is a F***ng cheat.

    yOUr trying to get me going Tds IV just realised ! ..GIT !

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #37

    t00ntime – well, we know that Debuchy and Gouffran can’t play in EL, so they’re nailed on for the Saints game. Ben Arfa won’t be risked either but hopefully will be able to play some part on Sunday too. I don’t mind a little rotation of the rest, as long as we’ve got Krul, Cabaye, and Santon playing against Saints. The rest I reckon can be rotated depending on who is in the best shape.

    Agree we can’t put out a weakened team if we expect to win. I think it would demoralise the squad if we did anyway, shows how worried the management is about relegation. Put out a proper team and boost confidence for the rest of the season.

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  • ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #38

    @Eastendgeordie

    Aye, thats probably true. Would be lucky if we got 10mill based on his form this season…

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  • ONLINE GUY

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #39

    TDS

    Im Having a pint of Guinness..Its Draught Guinness with the Widget in the can …Im gonna drink the Guinness Then swallow the widget , then eat the F***ing Can.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #40

    PWP – I wasn’t picking on you specifically, but there were plenty saying stupid figures to sell him.

    Anita and Perch can play several positions, Bigi is very young and still raw. I’d say take £20m if it’s offerered and we can reinvest it into the squad, but I’d rather have him in the squad than £10m in the bank.

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