We Can Win It Next Week – Papiss Cisse


This photo below just about sums up how frustrated Papiss Cisse must have been last night after having two good goals disallowed, and then having other efforts saved by the goalkeeper – and one was a header with just 20 seconds to go in injury time.

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Papiss Cisse – frustrated last night – who can blame him?

The big news being reported about last night’s game is that Papiss had two good goals disallowed by the same Norwegian linesman – one in each half – just to balance things out.

And goalkeeper Olexandr Goryainov saved three other good chances the Senegal striker had – but at least he forced the save from the goalkeeper – who had a very good game for Metalist Kharkiv.

It’s natural that Cisse thinks both goals should have been allowed, and they should have been:

“I think they were both goals – it’s down to the linesman.” “He said ‘no’, and once he’s made his decision it’s a no. There’s nothing you can do. It’s so frustrating.”

“I think we should be talking about a win.” “That would have been very, very good for the team.” “But the other team tried very hard and denied us. We just couldn’t get the win.”

“We can win the second leg – we’ll be going over there to give everything.” “We’re confident of still doing the job and getting through.”

We’ll hear a lot of our players say they will go to the Ukraine next Thursday night and win the game, and of course you’d hate it if they came out and said there’s no chance at all next week – but we’ll still make the trip. 😀

But the truth is it will be very difficult, and maybe the best we can hope for is to score a goal there – and end up with a score draw and we can go through.

But we must try to win the game against Southampton the following Sunday, and we don’t want our best players tired for that game – because the Saints will come at us in that game, and they have shown some good form of late including a 3-1 home win last time out against Manchester City – the Premier League Champions.

We are tied on points with Southampton at 27, and it would be good to gain 3 points on them, especially since they hammered us 2-0 at St. Mary’s earlier this season, in one of our worst performances of the season.

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93 comments so far

  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #1

    I agree Papiss. 😉

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  • Assam Toon

    Feb 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #2

    1-1 draw should do it..that will be the score i think. lets hope our defence is very good between now and end of season, because as it seems we are not going to score many either. i am not expecting cricket scores till end of the season.

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #3

    The officials were a joke last night. Just shows how the games can be ” rigged ” intentionally or not, if I was the UAFA management I would be checking the bank accounts for the jokers who officiated this match, they were a disgrace! Games like this are the reason why replays should play a major part in officiating a game, its the only way.

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  • fray bentos

    Feb 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #4

    Logged in at half time yesterday, big mistake!! was reminded of all the mugs who post during the game, complete and utter imbeciles!! who would want to come on a blog and post while the game is being played?!

    Some of the c**p they were posting, just shows they nothing as they don’t watch the game properly

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  • toonfield

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #5

    A massive shame for cisse. All the stick hes been getting on here recently and he bags 2 good goals. Hopefully he will carry this form to the next game

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #6

    Do we know who the officials will be for the 2nd leg?

    I’m hoping that the poor decisions yesterday will serve as extra motivation, not that it should be needed, to really stick it to them in the next game.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #7

    Fray, I checked the comments when I got back from the match. It`s quite shocking the level of hatred and bile that is spewed out about our own players.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #8

    Good morning Ibiza, some really poor decisions last night, can only hope we get better performance from the officials in away leg.

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  • archaeomag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #9

    I thought that the goals he did not score were great moves – we are creating some great chances

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #10

    Don’t know Ibiza M8, but it just shows how our game can be dictated by poor officiating, I feel sorry for Cisse he should have had at least 2 last night and that would have done his confidence the world of good. With continental games I cannot help thinking the games can be rigged without modern replays to verify actions. I would not have minded if Cisse had really been offside and the calls were correct, its just so typical the way the game is going that it is not being put right.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #11

    Good morning Archeo, yeah Cisse was still getting loads of criticism but hardly his fault he was on the end of some bad decisions. Sissoko seems to have the knack of setting up some good chances for the lad. His luck will come soon I think.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #12

    Tequila…I hope so, something tells me if the pressure of all those Geordies didn’t help, how it will go in front of the metalist fans…

    ArtyH…Newcastle fans will be the first to admit Cisse tends to struggle with the offside rule, I guess that’s what makes it such a bitter pill to swallow. The 2nd one I can somewhat get my head around, but we should be atleast taking a 1 goal lead to the next game.

    Still, I said earlier and I still think the same, we didn’t really play that well and should have done more to take an advantage to the away game, but hey, sometimes it’s just not to be.

    All we can do now is get a result there. This tie is still wide open.

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  • WesJameson

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #13

    @ ArtyH // Feb 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Couldn’t agree more, and i’m not even slightly joking…

    Two legitimate goals chalked off..
    The amount of fouls given against us
    The amount of fouls and dirty tactics they got away with
    The amount of yellows we were given and they weren’t

    Was saying to my Manure supporting mate, had this been them playing, no chance on Gods green earth would those goals have been disallowed

    In my 20 plus years of supporting NUFC, i have NEVER seen such biased and shocking reffing…

    SHAMBLES!! UEFA do your fekking jobs FFS!!

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #14

    Ibiza I am too hung over to say anything but cliches this morning. Game of 2 halves , much better in the second.

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  • toonfield

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #15

    There are a lot of fans on this blog who criticise when cisse has a bad game.
    Wouldnt it be nice if these fans came on and praised after he has a good game. It works both ways

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #16

    One thing I would say is that They were a good side and attacked our players every time there was a loose or 50-50 ball. They really wanted the ball. The game against ” The Bay ” must have been a ruse’ as this could not have been the same team! Dont forget when Andy Cole played for us it was said out of 10 attempts he would score 2-3. Andy had Pedro Papiss has both Sissoko and Cabaye so he is going to come good again he just needs a bit of support at this time.

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  • curmon

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #17

    The standard of refereeing has been in decline for years, even in the Premier League. However it is still way above european standards, I have lost count of the number of UEFA European games where the referees have been totally inept. Unfortunately Norway seems to specialise in producing refs of the poorest quality. Remember the Norwegian ref who completely screwed Chelsea a few years ago, to the point he received death threats. It is such a pity that UEFA are incompetent and toothless o0n all fronts. Platini is a complete tosser.

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  • fray bentos

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #18

    @tequila

    I honestly believe most of them don’t actually watch the game properly and are more concerned with the rubbish their writing on here

    I really don’t understand why anybody would want to write on a blog while the game is being played anyway, they really need to get their priorities as fans in order, no wonder they come out with so much rubbish

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #19

    Good morning ! Not been on for a while as on a fitness programme ! Thought we played well last night and could have easily won but for some poor decisions not going our way … Benny back soon and having watched our new players we will not go down ! Give the EL a real go ! Was impressed with mbiwa thought he did a great job at RB and quality cross for Cisse offside goal that never was ! Cabaye ball to Cisse first half was quality 🙂 nice to see we have some strength in depth with the likes of Goff dreamboat2 Benny Anita not starting ! Will be a tough game over there thought they were pretty decent side given they have not played for so long ! Toon Toon

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #20

    @Wes, Hi mate imagine how I feel I’ve been supporting them for over 50 years. And what you say about Man U is IMHO correct too, they seem to curry favour because they are a big name and subliminally the rest of the officials are programmed to comply with ” Fergies ” actions of frustration and his remonstrations, IE they are bullied into making descisions that favour Man U.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #21

    Fray dont normally bother with the blog at all on match days as all the loonies come out to play and I just get too wound up reading the dross they post. Your quite correct though when there is a game on just watch it.

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  • weg

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #22

    I have no worries about Cisse’s form. He’ll have plenty of goals by the end of the season.
    The 2nd Leg team for me, would be:
    —————-Krul—————
    MBiwa, STaylor, Collocini, Haidara
    Obertan, Sissoko,Tiote, Cabaye, Marveaux
    —————-Cisse———————-
    Bringing on Anita and Jonas for whoever looks like they are tiring in midfield, and Shola for Cisse.

    The Southampton team for me, would be:
    —————Krul————–
    Debuchey, STaylor, Collocini, Santon
    Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Perch, Cabaye, Gouffran
    —————Cisse—————–
    Bringing on MBiwa for Staylor or Collocini, Marveaux for Benny, Sissy or Cabs, and young Campbell for Cisse(only if Cisse is tiring!)

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #23

    Its such a tough dilemma for Pardew team selection for 2nd leg I also think he still does not really get this whole rotation malarky yet understandable as this is the 1st ever squad where he has had strength in depth !!!

    He will play his favourites till they get injured and then bring in Marv, Anita till they come back even if it means playing people out of position they will be brought back in

    If Cabaye is playing as the defensive midfielder what is the point in having Tiote on the pitch?!?

    Will be raging if we get knocked out as looking at the teams left in the competition we can give everyone a right good game especially with Arfa back fit

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  • south coast toon

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #24

    you got to feel sorry for the boys cisse scored 2 goals, sissoko seems to be getting the ball in the right places,there keeper has a good game and the officals had a terrible game and dare i say it probably walked away with more than any player on the pitch, com on eufa the was no fairplay last night or are they all stuffing there pockets as well bloody shambles
    wes jamerson completely agree no way would this of happen to man u fergie would ave skinned em alive.
    still the boys did well against 14 men to get a draw
    this will be won by a dodgey desicion at there place
    linesman and refs are all rouges and do more deal;s than a dodgy market trader

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  • Bambams

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #25

    We will win out there, they will attack more and we do look solid at the back. Catch them with well organised breaks that i am sure Pards will have them working on during training sessions.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #26

    Never had chance to see the game last night as had other plans…..but from the highlights we seemed to play well…created a lot of good chances which should have been taken.

    Pardew sent out a good side who played well just didn’t finish.

    I think both offsides were close so can’t blame linesman for that, these things happen, take the rough with the smooth…we have benefited from close calls this season (everton away).

    As for fouls…well refs are much stricter in europe as its a softer game on the continent.

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  • shearermania

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #27

    okay i had never heard about sisokko when we signed him..never ever – i dont play pc games….but i dont think i have ever seen a new signed unknown player like this in toon.
    man the boy is a beast, strong and powerful, good passing, eye for a goal…this boy is the real mckoy……i cant believe we got him over the top clubs….very puzzled…he looks head and shoulders above the rest

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #28

    who did people want anita and marv in for? They are both centre mids and neither are better than the current 3 in midfield.

    Marv said himself he is a central player, he struggles out wide so why play him there.

    Anita is good but not better than tiote, cabs or sissoko……even if people think he is, its a close call between them so hardly like he is dropping somebody like ronaldo for jonas..

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  • shearermania

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #29

    only one to get the chop is jonas….but is that ever gonna happen?

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #30

    @ Sage

    Team I would have played last night

    ———————-Krul———————–

    –M’biwa—-Taylor——–Collocini—-Santon–

    ————-Tiote—————-Anita———-

    ——Sissoko——-Cabaye——Marveaux—–

    ———————-Cisse———————-

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #31

    Face it lads it was Valantine’s day yesterday and the toon got the biggest screwing on the planet, end of.

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  • ArtyH

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #32

    By the officials that is.

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  • dannyboy

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #33

    sissoko was very good last night i have to say
    just imagine we didnt play jonas and squidward and play anita and mareaux two players with creativity and actual quality! so p*issed of pardew put out his ‘strongest team’ available and that included jonas and obertan ! is he being serious like? obertan offers nothing unless brought on 4 15mins when the opposition is tired and jonas as much as i love him is past it , they were the two weak links last night , i keep defending pardrew but im going to have to jump on the bandwagon soon with his tactics , f*****g joke and the worst of it is i can see jonas and obertan getting game time next year too especially jonas

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  • dannyboy

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #34

    sissoko was very good last night i have to say
    just imagine we didnt play jonas and squidward and play anita and mareaux two players with creativity and actual quality! so p*is*ed of pardew put out his ‘strongest team’ available and that included jonas and obertan ! is he being serious like? obertan offers nothing unless brought on 4 15mins when the opposition is tired and jonas as much as i love him is past it , they were the two weak links last night , i keep defending pardrew but im going to have to jump on the bandwagon soon with his tactics , f**king joke and the worst of it is i can see jonas and obertan getting game time next year too especially jonas as he must be an incredible c**k sucker!!

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  • WesJameson

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #35

    @ south coast toon // Feb 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Couldn’t have put it any better myself…

    11 vs 14, came close to punching a hole in the TV last night, still furious about it all

    Transfer Sage // Feb 15, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Mate, come on now….i agree European refs, are stricter and softer on fouls than the Prem, but thats not the point here….the ref blew against us time and time again, they made the same amount of fouls/dirty tactics, but yet get one booking…SHAMBLES!!

    And Anita….overall is a much better football player than Tiote….maybe not as physical, but passing and footballing brain is 10 x what Tiotes is

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #36

    @Fray

    You should name and shame them and ask them to justify their comments. 😉

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #37

    Wes

    I never saw the full game, just some extended highlights today so can’t really comment in much detail on general fouls.

    I’ll take yours and a lot of people’s words on here. I think sometimes refs presume the British team are tougher and naturally give my fouls against, it’s not right but seems to happen a lot, even for our big clubs in champs league.

    But I stand by that both offsides were close so I can forgive officials for that.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #38

    Big pappa

    Not keen on having sissoko and marv out wide

    Rather have sissoko where he was and marv I don’t like as a winger. I think he needs to play central, said it himself. He is lost out wide and doesn’t do enough to get involved.

    The only problem is with no gouff and HBA we are stuck with two poor wingers in Jonas and obertan. I just think marv isn’t really much better out wide, he has more talent but can’t use it there.

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  • joe

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #39

    Dannyboy

    Yeap I can totally imagine if we had played Anita and Marveux instead. We would have scored 2 maybe 3 goals? And Metalist would have scored maybe 1 or 2 as well. Is that how you wanna play the first leg of a knockout game at home? Remember the Alkmaar game? No doubt 4-2 is a great score if it was a league game, but an absolutely horrendous score to have in a knockout tie.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Feb 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #40

    TS….I do agree with you on the second goal, it was really really close, but for the first goal that was a really poor call imo. Linesman obviously ball watching and missed the player closest to him which played Cisse onside, no?

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