Everyone Given A Lift At Newcastle – Including Youngsters


Newcastle’s squad has been too small for a while now,  and certainly ever since we returned to the Premier League back in May of 2010, but with the five French players brought in last month,  it seems to have given a big lift to the players – and we’ll not even mention the fans.

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Jonas Gutierrez – squad strengthened a lot

And certainly that’s what Argentine winger Jonas Gutierrez thinks, as he had this to say on the Newcastle web-site:

“It’s really good to have a bigger squad, because that was a problem earlier in the season.” “It has been hard for us because we had a lot of injuries but not a lot of players.”

“The players who had to play were maybe from the reserves and are young players.” “They are very talented but it is not fair on them just to be in there as Premier League regulars just yet when they are so young.” “They should be doing that in a few years.”

“Now we have more players and are picking up good results again and that has given everyone a big lift.”

We had expected the young players to have done better this season, but the best time to introduce them into the side is when we are doing well,  and when there’s lot of confidence in the team.

It’s asking a little too much to expect inexperienced young lads to come in when the side is struggling through a bad run of results, as we had for some ten weeks from early November.

And quite a few of our youngsters are now out on loan, and they  include Mehdi Abeid at St. Johnstone, Curtis Good at Bradford, Paul Dummett and Conor Newton at St. Mirren and Brad Inman at Crew Alexandra – who has scored 6 goals in 12 games.

All the youngsters seem to be doing well – and best of all they are getting first team experience at other clubs.

And it seems that manager Alan Pardew will let even more younger players – like Sammy Ameobi, James Tavernier and Shane Ferguson – go on loan if we are knocked out of the Europa League on Thursday evening at Metalist Kharkiv.

And our U-19 side won again yesterday 3-2 over Empoli, but Newcastle were still eliminated from the Torneo di Viareggio, and we had a defeat followed by two wins in the three games.

We lost the first game to AC Milan 2-1 and that turned out to be the killer, but then we beat the Congo U-17 side and won yesterday, but we ended up second in Group 9.

And only the best two best runners-up from each half of the competition go through to the knockout stages of the competition, and it seems we missed out on goal difference – that’s a pity.

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99 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    Feb 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #1

    I like the picture of Jonas because thats how he always looks on the pitch – like his knees are tied together.

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  • Joe Blog

    Feb 17, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #2

    Claptrap. None of our youngsters will ever be NUFC regulars. Perhaps squad players for the likes of Wigan.

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  • Marty-Toon

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #3

    Tsunki
    That’s about the sum of it yeah,hard worker but too often caught in possession and loses the ball with poor crossing.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #4

    @2:

    What an absolutely blinkered comment ! You a Mackem?

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  • Marty-Toon

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #5

    Fergie has shown great potential and has good skill will crossing ability,he’s had injury problems and getting match fit is hard when not getting minutes on the pitch.
    As the post says,had he been in a winning team it’d much easier to help his ability flourish.
    I’d say he and Bigi are the closest,with Sammy also having good ability but needs to be loaned out for first team games

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #6

    Any idea how much return flights cost to Kharkiv and back? Always wanted to go to the Ukraine. The women are spectacular over there.

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  • Jonny

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #7

    For me, the youngsters with talent and potential are:
    Bigi
    Abeid
    Vuckic (stay fit and lose weight)
    Campbell
    Ferguson (bulk up)

    Not sure about Tavernier and don’t think Ameobi is good enough.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #8

    I agree with you about Abeid. He is already standing out at St Johnstone. Would like to see Shane, Sammi and Haris sent out on loan. Vuckic isn’t overweight at all. I’d like to see us transform Vuckic into a centre forward.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #9

    We have to sign Benteke. £20m is value to money. Hopefully Villa will go down. Then he’ll be worth around £12m. He’s a great replacement for Ba. I’d still take Remy as QPR look doomed.

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  • Joe Blog

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #10

    We’ll see how many are still with us in 2/3 years. None.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #11

    Tequilamag @20 previous post.
    Hardly a work of fiction, if you knew the full history of Obertans playing career from Bordeaux to date -even having regard to his injures at Man U and at SJP – the only inference that can be arrived at is that he is not a PL player. Whilst there are players who suddenly appear on the stage from “nowhere” to have a glittering career – I see no evidence that Obertan will be such a player. He has had chance after chance and has failed to excel. If you see his performances differently could you please explain. I did a previous post some months ago including his goal stats throughout his career and his “return” is woeful -I included these facts in my post.
    Getting back to the Metalist game on Thursday -do you think Obertan had a good game (not others just Obertan) and can you suggest an explanation as to why he was taken off.
    Whilst is has been the case that there has not been a large enough squad until recently -I would start Marveaux every time ahead of Obertan -he is a much better player.
    It is a fact that Monsieur Percy Panais signed Obertan, without Carr’s involvement, an involvement which Carr is eager to deny in public- I wonder why. The fact of the matter is than old red nose sold us a duffer -unless you think otherwise. Because you do not agree with another poster you should not dismiss their offerings as fiction.
    You may find it dull that I refer to the manager as Percy – I find it amusing -clearly a difference in humour. Have to ever been in the play or film -Les Miserables?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #12

    Tavernier’s another Simpson. We need to get rid of these players in the summer:

    Simpson
    Willo
    Tavernier
    Gosling
    Shola Ameobi

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #13

    Kets:

    With the possible exception of the Mackem Slayer, i would agree with you on the rest!

    Which is actually quite surprising to me because that does,nt happen very often!

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  • JTOONJ

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #14

    watching chelski v brentford ba looks totally out of place! because all of the players surrounding him are better than him and seem to not pass to him as often as we did! he was the centre of our attack and now he isn’t at chelski

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  • JTOONJ

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #15

    Ketsbaia9

    about benteke would be awesome, but he only signed for villa because he thought they were in london, hardly going to move to us when he said he’d love to go to london a.k.a aresenal.

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  • croftus5678

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #16

    @12

    think i completely agree with that m8 !
    tav i dont see the harm seeing as he’s on penny’s as wages sending him out on a season long loan just in case he does get better.
    but none of them should be touching 1st team or squad atm.
    given the choice i would take tav over simpson though as cover purely for wages and improvement terms but even that would be pushed as raylor is far superior to them both imo.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #17

    Mr Tuff, I never suggested that Obertan is or should be a regular starter. I was challenging your assumption that Pardew sees him that way by pointing out how little playing time he has had in the PL. As for Metalist I thought he was OK not great but so were most of our players.
    As for picking Obertan over Marv, this is is a non issue as they play different positions. Marv is poor as a winger much more suited to a CM role. I see them both as squad players neither good enough for a regular start.
    As for your Percy jibes, repeating puerile “sun ” type insults does not make them funnier, it just makes you look childish.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #18

    He’d love to sign for us. Nearly all our players are french speaking. Him and Alderweireld would be great additions and would take us to the next level. We still need at least 2 strikers signed in the summer.

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  • JTOONJ

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #19

    Ketsbaia9

    How do you know?
    Did you not read the article which stated he wanted to move to aresenal in the near future?
    Paul Lambert had to come out and publicly tell him off! Too expensive as well. Great player though.

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  • tequilamag

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #20

    Kets, how do you know he would love to sign for us ?

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  • JTOONJ

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #21

    No doubt Messi and ronaldo are secret geordies and would love to sign for us too ey?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #22

    Because I spoke to him last night. Said he’s fond of our french speaking players and would love to play with Marveaux, Sissoko, Ben Arfa and Abeid.

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  • JTOONJ

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #23

    Ketsbaia9

    Haha are you actually being serious!

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  • niafron

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #24

    Bonjour messieurs.

    What is the mood today?

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  • JTOONJ

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #25

    niafron

    Well Kets has spoken to benteke and he really wants to come to newcastle, although he said in a conflicting statement that he wants to go to arsenal.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #26

    Eh Niafron ! Ca va?

    I have not seen you on here for ages!

    What is this player from St Etienne like? Everyone on here wants to sign him? Is he any good?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #27

    Yeah, he was out last night. Seemed a decent bloke. I’ve told him to sign for us. He thinks the clubs going places.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #28

    Seem like Kets is on talking terms with everyone?

    Benteke was first! and now it seems he talks to Aubaude too!
    Think your trying to take the pith like!

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  • Pushy Pardew

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #29

    Ian Toon
    Hope your well. Have been reading though not posting until yesterday.
    Seen my fair share of youngsters and few impress. Think many blinded by the coming through the ranks and talk about 21 + year olds as kids. Ferguson is on borrowed time I hear because he has not spent as much time on post training as say Santon. Fair to draw a comparison because they are around the same age. We both rated Abeid pre season so pleased he’s doing well on loan. Agree we should be more adventurous bringing 18 year olds through before fee escalates. Only Krul and Taylor ver the last decade is just not good enough.

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  • WWYCD

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #30

    Kets
    Talking to Benteke said he’d love to play with Abied….have to ask were u the only person to see Benteke? Because that sounds like those voices in ur head have manifested into delusions

    Or are u just finally coming out of the WUM closet?

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  • niafron

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #31

    @newexpatmagpie

    Aubameyang?

    He’s a good player, but not a superstar. Well, he could be a good choice, but it will depend of the price.

    And St Etienne proved in the past they are tough negociators.

    They will ask an high price i guess.

    Well depending of his contract’s situation, i know nothing about it.

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  • Markaccus

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #32

    LMAO @ demba ba’s bionic face.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #33

    Well mon amis? I don,t know much about the lad from Etienne either? But i do know that van Wolfswinkel from Sporting Lissabon would be a superb signing? Used to follow him when he played for Utrecht!

    Have you spoken to him too Kets?

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  • donkeypunch

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #34

    newcastle will go for wifred bony in the summer dont believe the statment DLand GH come out about him that were not intereted

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  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #35

    Tequila – whilst I do not particularly want to argue about minuscule matters, I feel I have to respond again to you “having a go” calling my earlier post fiction.
    I never suggested either that Obertan should be or is a regular starter or inferred as much -now that IS fiction on your behalf. -by you introducing something not inferred or stated into the debate. I was purely pointing out that in my opinion he was not a player of PL standard.
    You mention Obertan has played a total of 359 minutes in the PL this season – that equates to about four games in total (ie 4 x 90 minutes) and that within those games he has “three assists” which you believe is a “good return”. I personally do not think it is a good return but would not have a go at you because you think it is – you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
    As for my “Percy jibes”, being “sun” type insults -well that is your opinion – there are others on the blog who refer to him as Percy as well, and others who refer to him as Parsnip – it is humour for some -whilst you are entitled to believe that it is not. You need to chill a bit man – buy a joke book or go to a comedy club or something similar.

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  • Owldman

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #36

    KETZ make sure it’s salt you are putting on your fish & chips that other white stuff can cause hallucinations & scramble your brains, next time you meet Benteke or Ronaldo or even Messi give them our best regards from all us Toon bloggers

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Benteke’s played with and against Abeid before. He’s actually surprised that he’s not in the first team squad.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Man Utd are in for Raylor, Perch and Tiote in the summer. They’d definitely strengthen their side and it wouldn’t be a disaster if we lost them. They won’t be able to get much first team football with us so a move to Man Utd may be a good career move for them.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #38

    Mister tuff

    Im with you on obertan not being good enough like. I think he never cut it at man utd which is much easier as you have great players around you making your job much easier as a winger.

    He has had a handful of good patches in games for us, the lad just doesn’t look capable of using his pace to great effect, no idea why he barely ever drives at a full back.

    On pardew…I think he is an average manager. Give him good players which he has no and football improves, he struggles to get poor players to pass (some managers can get then to do it) but now he has a proper squad (without man striking options though) he should get then playing.

    I want him to stay and have a proper chance with this team he has but if the chance to get a manager like laudrupp came up I wouldn’t complain if he came in. We’d all see Ben arfa replaced with messi or colo with kompany so no reason why we shouldn’t upgrade a manager if he is clearly better.

    But I’d not force pards out as he is doing a decent job, but like a player there is always a better option and it’s daft not to keep tabs on a few.

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  • Pushy Pardew

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #39

    Mister Tuff
    Please. If you don’t give it a rest you will be losing your Ian Toon BBC rating. By neither entertaining, informing nor educating. You wouldn’t want to join the ranks of the Beattie 25, Catchy fast forward brigade.

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  • Ginger

    Feb 17, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #40

    Cheers for everyone’s compliments on my team selection and grammar yesterday! I would have replied however I went out with my mates.

    As for today, Kets I usually read your comments and see where you’re coming from. I too believe that Abeid has the potential to be world class one day. Although, I’m starting to think you;re just a troll now.

    All of our youngsters that have an ounce of potential and are above the age of 20, should be loaned out for a year and then fired/sold if they haven’t improved after that. Seems like too much dead weight is in our squad right now. Others who are younger should be loaned out to gain some experience but given more time to grow.

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