Krul Out Four Weeks – Ben Arfa Fitness Disappointing


Alan Pardew held his press conference this afternoon got the game at Swansea on Saturday, and the manager finally gave an official position on Tim Krul’s ankle injury, and it doesn’t seem too bad – other than the ankle is still a bit swollen and he will be out four to five weeks maximum.

timn krul at metalist

Tim Krul – at the end of last weeks game against Metalist

Sp since he’s been injured for a week now, we could see him back around the end of March, but Alan Pardew seemed to hint that he could be back even earlier than that – once the swelling has subsided.

The 24-year-old Dutch international visited a specialist earlier this week after picking up the injury very late in the Metalist Kharkiv game in the Ukraine, but there seems to be no complications other than he has strained it, and it’s still swollen.

This is what manager Alan Pardew said about it in the press conference:

“His ankle is still a little bit swollen. We think he will be out for a maximum four weeks, five weeks, but we are hoping for less than that.”

And the manager again voiced his disappointment at the fitness of Ben Arfa, who has now been back in full training for almost two weeks.

It’s a surprise he isn’t fitter – since Alan Pardew had sad aw week last Monday that he was in very good shape after rehabilitation at the French Football Academy at Clairfontaine.

This is what Pardew said about Ben Arfa in today’s press conference:

“I have to say his conditioning has disappointed me this week, and we will be working hard in the next few days to get him up to speed because he lacks a bit of fitness, for sure.” “I just think it’s something we need to push him on at. His upper body strength is there, but we want to work on his general fitness. I think that needs to improve.”

That may mean that Ben Arfa doesn’t even make the bench for the game at Swansea and he may not even travel with the squad.

The sooner Hatem is back the better – because he’s a match winner on his own, as he’s proved many times of the last thirteen months.

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107 comments so far

  • ToonDownSouth

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #1

    Anyone else feel bad for poor Williamson?

    Pardew and Tiote both said something the other day along the lines of “We have three good centre backs now. And then there’s Mike Williamson.”

    I imagine he may well be off in the summer if we can sign a young English CB from the Championship or elsewhere.

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  • WWYCD

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #2

    TDS
    Very much so uncalled for imo given his all and worked damn hard throughout his NUFC career good solid back up CB shame to see how Pards seems to of turned on him

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  • beefman13

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #3

    178beefman13 // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Ibizatoon, u havnt been to SJP? U live in ibiza not new zealand? U either have a crap job that pays a pittance, or you are keeping out of the country for legal reasons or you are a real fagin, i would go for u being a tight wad, plastic supporter ha ha!

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  • WWYCD

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #4

    Also HBA should of laid of the pies tut tut

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #5

    if collo goes this summer i think we need to bring in Okore and have Good and Street as backup

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #6

    Beefman…Something along those lines 🙂

    TDS…Not really the best man management on Pardews part.

    Tuff (previous thread)…I just attempted that and lost the pipe cleaner. Any other suggestions?

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #7

    TDS
    I pointed that out on the previous thread.
    Tbf, the lad isn’t good enough for us and I don’t mean to disrespect him. He’s gave 100% when he’s played and has played because there was nobody else. I definitely think he’ll be moved in the summer.

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #8

    If Williamson does move on. Do you think we will try and bring one of younger players through like Streete or will we sign another CB?

    Bear in mind that Colo will probably be gone too so we’ll need a top quality CB to replace him, hopefully Sakho.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #9

    Super…I think you have answered that yourself.

    If Willo leaves we get an academy upgrade.
    If Colo leaves me buy a quality CB.

    Or maybe we just gamble…nah, as if that would happen.

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #10

    I believe Pardew referred to Willo as ‘the other guy’ in an interview recently when citing his dim chances of getting back in the team. I suppose thats a couple of points above what Ketsy thinks of him though, so not all bad.

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  • Tsunki

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Comment #11

    Willo will probably end up at some dump of a tired outfit, like Man U.

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  • bollance

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #12

    On Willo

    Last season he was solid and contributed to an excellent defence. We were efficient last season, conceded few (except the games we were tonked) and won lots of games by the odd goal.

    This season Willo has been poor and it is time for him to take on a new challenge. We will sell him to a lower prem team or one coming up for £2m?

    For £2m we will get a youngster from abroad or pay a little more and get Maguire from Sheff Utd?

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  • bollance

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #13

    Tsunki

    u sound like Ketsbia9, Man Utd aren’t the team they used to be, didn’t you know that? 😉

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  • bollance

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #14

    Final point on Willo,

    He cost us vs Reading big time. We couldnt buy a win and were ahead. He failed to clear the ball into the box and they scored. Without conceding then we should have held out for a win, but we will never know!

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #15

    I think it was “Joe” who posted the article about defensive midfielders being pivotal to the success of the team.

    So I pose this question……………………..

    “In the event that NUFC signed the following 3 players:-
    PEA, Siem de Jong and Jermaine Lens would you still play Sissoko in a CAM role or would you play him deep with the likes of Cabaye pulling the strings from midfield?

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #16

    Bollance
    If we’d won that game we might not have signed all of players we’ve brought in. That game was our lowest point in the season and it made us strengthen quickly to better equip us.

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #17

    Spreadthetoon
    Sissoko seems much better suited as a CAM than as a defensive midfielder and credit to Pardew for realising that. I’d be surprised if we brought in De Jong because we already have Sissoko, Marveaux and Cabaye who can play CAM

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  • Jayden

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #18

    Sissoko as a CAM has been a revelation. Pardew, contrary to popular belief, isn’t an idiot.

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #19

    Super
    Fair comment but imagine Sissoko in a deeper functioning role as a defensive midfielder who can score from deep. In fact all the goals Sissoko has for us are from deflections or from a deeper position. Sissoko’s passing and range is absolutely amazing so……..imagine the following:-

    ————–Krul—————————–
    Debuchy—–Saylor—-Mapou———Santon
    ——Sissoko——-Cabaye—————-
    HBA———–S. De Jong————Gouffran
    —————–Cisse————————

    So having the likes of PEA, Lens and Siem de Jong would be the finishing touches to a CL team IMO. Could it work?…..

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  • Super Magpie

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #20

    Spreadthetoon
    It will certainly make our team a lot stronger. Sissoko didn’t score that many for Tolouse at CDM, but has scored 3 and assisted 3 since he came in. I don’t know how it would work to be honest.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #21

    Just got to hope Taylor does not get injured while Colo is out as that means Williamson will be back in the fold!!!

    I actually think his play pissed off Pardew as he was a model pro but every time he got the ball he would just GO LONG!!!

    Willo was the old guard him and Simpson done well for us but both need to be replaced if the club is to progress we seem to have 3 up and coming center halfs so maybe the thinking is get rid of Willo and have one of them take his place??

    Colo will leave in the summer if its not about football and it is personal then I just hope we have someone to replace him personally I would love us to get Ashley Williams he is awesome and is proven in the premiership

    Alderweild or Okore are the other options for me that I have seen play but that Mirin might be an option as well

    On Arfa there is no point rushing him back we should have enough in the locker to get results on Saturday and against Stoke especially now HUTH is suspended for 3 games for violent conduct

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #22

    I think Willo would do well to move on and is an unexceptional journeyman. He’d do fine in the fizzy pop or for a less ambitious EPL side. His motivation and commitment have never been in doubt and he is def a step up from Bramble so there are clubs he’d do okay with

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #23

    I’m hoping the fitness with HBA is just a Pards mind game so that he can be let loose against Swansea,my bit on the Willo situation,I never heard Pards mention the other bloke or anything like that but I did see quotes where he mentioned we now had three good CBs competing,a bit thoughtless really as i’m more than happy to have Willo as fourth choice back up,if Collo does go though we definetely need another quality CB in as Curtis Good surely can’t be ready and interestly Bradford have been playing him LB.

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  • voodoo85

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #24

    Ben Arfa to start at Swansea then, Pards has done this before with HBA and then spring upon the opposition. Wishful thinking but never know !

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  • ash1001

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #25

    I thought APs forte was Man Management, he seems to be doing things and saying things that puts a big doubt in my mind.
    i.e Ignoring Colo when he went off on Sunday.
    Playing down HBA regarding his fitness.
    Having a bit of a go at Shola.
    Casting Mike Williamson aside
    and the list goes on.
    Now I accept that Williamson and Shola are not quite up to PL standard, but particularly in Williamsons case he gave everything for the club, and Shola tried his best within Shola terms.
    AP you do not go public on your opinions of players, that does no one any good at all, least of all the players

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  • TimKrulFan

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #26

    Have no sympathy for Williamson he wouldn’t stand out playing for my team.

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #27

    ash

    There is far too much oversensitivity on the comments of managers, especially at the Toon.

    At least we haven’t got a guy mouthing off about the owner and board’s shortcomings and hasn’t had endless facedowns with senior players at training.

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  • martoon

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #28

    I don’t like to say I told you so but…………

    martoon // Feb 27, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Morning lads – I can’t reveal my source but I can tell you that Colo’s back injury is a lot worse than the club are making out. There is no way he will be playing on Saturday

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #29

    mind you we haven’t got a dressing room full of prima donnas

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  • Marty-Toon

    Feb 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #30

    Shame for Willo but he’s been a real liability at the back.
    Always expecting his one howler or more every game.
    Anyone know where I can get the new shirt at a good price on line?

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  • raj of hailsley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #31

    JfA @23
    Very excellent postings I am agreeing with you totally.

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  • AndyNUFC

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #32

    Got to think back to SBR for the last toon manager who gave great interviews… Apart from Shola being Carl Cort! But then as our favourite geordie he would get away with home truths whereas Pardew is a bit cynical with certain players and makes a few off the cuff statements.

    Then again a lot can be made of reading into a few words and overall I think Pardew says the right things.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #33

    martoon,
    If you don’t like saying it then why did you,if he does play it will be easier just to forget you said it.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #34

    Pardew has got some type of affliction where his brain sometimes loses contol of his lips.

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #35

    raj

    may your chillies all be Trinidad Moruga Scorpions !

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  • martoon

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #36

    JFA @33 – He won’t be playing Saturday – on Tuesday he couldn’t even walk because he was in so much pain!

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  • raj of hailsley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #37

    Yo-yo
    One thousand apologies but the scorpion isn’t agreeing with me.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #38

    martoon,
    I hope he doesn’t expect to go and see his doctor in Bueson Aires,that owld chesnut.

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  • yo-yo

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #39

    raj

    are you still in orbit ?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Feb 28, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Comment #40

    Yo yo,
    Indeed,i’m having my feet firmly in the ground.

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