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Krul Out Four Weeks – Ben Arfa Fitness Disappointing

6:09 pm, Thursday, February 28th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 107 Comments

Alan Pardew held his press conference this afternoon got the game at Swansea on Saturday, and the manager finally gave an official position on Tim Krul’s ankle injury, and it doesn’t seem too bad – other than the ankle is still a bit swollen and he will be out four to five weeks maximum.

timn krul at metalist

Tim Krul – at the end of last weeks game against Metalist

Sp since he’s been injured for a week now, we could see him back around the end of March, but Alan Pardew seemed to hint that he could be back even earlier than that – once the swelling has subsided.

The 24-year-old Dutch international visited a specialist earlier this week after picking up the injury very late in the Metalist Kharkiv game in the Ukraine, but there seems to be no complications other than he has strained it, and it’s still swollen.

This is what manager Alan Pardew said about it in the press conference:

“His ankle is still a little bit swollen. We think he will be out for a maximum four weeks, five weeks, but we are hoping for less than that.”

And the manager again voiced his disappointment at the fitness of Ben Arfa, who has now been back in full training for almost two weeks.

It’s a surprise he isn’t fitter – since Alan Pardew had sad aw week last Monday that he was in very good shape after rehabilitation at the French Football Academy at Clairfontaine.

This is what Pardew said about Ben Arfa in today’s press conference:

“I have to say his conditioning has disappointed me this week, and we will be working hard in the next few days to get him up to speed because he lacks a bit of fitness, for sure.” “I just think it’s something we need to push him on at. His upper body strength is there, but we want to work on his general fitness. I think that needs to improve.”

That may mean that Ben Arfa doesn’t even make the bench for the game at Swansea and he may not even travel with the squad.

The sooner Hatem is back the better – because he’s a match winner on his own, as he’s proved many times of the last thirteen months.

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107 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonDownSouth // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Anyone else feel bad for poor Williamson?

    Pardew and Tiote both said something the other day along the lines of “We have three good centre backs now. And then there’s Mike Williamson.”

    I imagine he may well be off in the summer if we can sign a young English CB from the Championship or elsewhere.

  • 2 WWYCD // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Very much so uncalled for imo given his all and worked damn hard throughout his NUFC career good solid back up CB shame to see how Pards seems to of turned on him

  • 3 beefman13 // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    178beefman13 // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Ibizatoon, u havnt been to SJP? U live in ibiza not new zealand? U either have a crap job that pays a pittance, or you are keeping out of the country for legal reasons or you are a real fagin, i would go for u being a tight wad, plastic supporter ha ha!

  • 4 WWYCD // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Also HBA should of laid of the pies tut tut

  • 5 Black and White with an army lol // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    if collo goes this summer i think we need to bring in Okore and have Good and Street as backup

  • 6 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Beefman…Something along those lines 🙂

    TDS…Not really the best man management on Pardews part.

    Tuff (previous thread)…I just attempted that and lost the pipe cleaner. Any other suggestions?

  • 7 Super Magpie // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    I pointed that out on the previous thread.
    Tbf, the lad isn’t good enough for us and I don’t mean to disrespect him. He’s gave 100% when he’s played and has played because there was nobody else. I definitely think he’ll be moved in the summer.

  • 8 Super Magpie // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    If Williamson does move on. Do you think we will try and bring one of younger players through like Streete or will we sign another CB?

    Bear in mind that Colo will probably be gone too so we’ll need a top quality CB to replace him, hopefully Sakho.

  • 9 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Super…I think you have answered that yourself.

    If Willo leaves we get an academy upgrade.
    If Colo leaves me buy a quality CB.

    Or maybe we just gamble…nah, as if that would happen.

  • 10 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    I believe Pardew referred to Willo as ‘the other guy’ in an interview recently when citing his dim chances of getting back in the team. I suppose thats a couple of points above what Ketsy thinks of him though, so not all bad.

  • 11 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Willo will probably end up at some dump of a tired outfit, like Man U.

  • 12 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    On Willo

    Last season he was solid and contributed to an excellent defence. We were efficient last season, conceded few (except the games we were tonked) and won lots of games by the odd goal.

    This season Willo has been poor and it is time for him to take on a new challenge. We will sell him to a lower prem team or one coming up for £2m?

    For £2m we will get a youngster from abroad or pay a little more and get Maguire from Sheff Utd?

  • 13 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM


    u sound like Ketsbia9, Man Utd aren’t the team they used to be, didn’t you know that? 😉

  • 14 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Final point on Willo,

    He cost us vs Reading big time. We couldnt buy a win and were ahead. He failed to clear the ball into the box and they scored. Without conceding then we should have held out for a win, but we will never know!

  • 15 Spreadthetoon // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    I think it was “Joe” who posted the article about defensive midfielders being pivotal to the success of the team.

    So I pose this question……………………..

    “In the event that NUFC signed the following 3 players:-
    PEA, Siem de Jong and Jermaine Lens would you still play Sissoko in a CAM role or would you play him deep with the likes of Cabaye pulling the strings from midfield?

  • 16 Super Magpie // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    If we’d won that game we might not have signed all of players we’ve brought in. That game was our lowest point in the season and it made us strengthen quickly to better equip us.

  • 17 Super Magpie // Feb 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Sissoko seems much better suited as a CAM than as a defensive midfielder and credit to Pardew for realising that. I’d be surprised if we brought in De Jong because we already have Sissoko, Marveaux and Cabaye who can play CAM

  • 18 Jayden // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Sissoko as a CAM has been a revelation. Pardew, contrary to popular belief, isn’t an idiot.

  • 19 Spreadthetoon // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Fair comment but imagine Sissoko in a deeper functioning role as a defensive midfielder who can score from deep. In fact all the goals Sissoko has for us are from deflections or from a deeper position. Sissoko’s passing and range is absolutely amazing so……..imagine the following:-

    HBA———–S. De Jong————Gouffran

    So having the likes of PEA, Lens and Siem de Jong would be the finishing touches to a CL team IMO. Could it work?…..

  • 20 Super Magpie // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    It will certainly make our team a lot stronger. Sissoko didn’t score that many for Tolouse at CDM, but has scored 3 and assisted 3 since he came in. I don’t know how it would work to be honest.

  • 21 santonthenewmaldini // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Just got to hope Taylor does not get injured while Colo is out as that means Williamson will be back in the fold!!!

    I actually think his play pissed off Pardew as he was a model pro but every time he got the ball he would just GO LONG!!!

    Willo was the old guard him and Simpson done well for us but both need to be replaced if the club is to progress we seem to have 3 up and coming center halfs so maybe the thinking is get rid of Willo and have one of them take his place??

    Colo will leave in the summer if its not about football and it is personal then I just hope we have someone to replace him personally I would love us to get Ashley Williams he is awesome and is proven in the premiership

    Alderweild or Okore are the other options for me that I have seen play but that Mirin might be an option as well

    On Arfa there is no point rushing him back we should have enough in the locker to get results on Saturday and against Stoke especially now HUTH is suspended for 3 games for violent conduct

  • 22 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    I think Willo would do well to move on and is an unexceptional journeyman. He’d do fine in the fizzy pop or for a less ambitious EPL side. His motivation and commitment have never been in doubt and he is def a step up from Bramble so there are clubs he’d do okay with

  • 23 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    I’m hoping the fitness with HBA is just a Pards mind game so that he can be let loose against Swansea,my bit on the Willo situation,I never heard Pards mention the other bloke or anything like that but I did see quotes where he mentioned we now had three good CBs competing,a bit thoughtless really as i’m more than happy to have Willo as fourth choice back up,if Collo does go though we definetely need another quality CB in as Curtis Good surely can’t be ready and interestly Bradford have been playing him LB.

  • 24 voodoo85 // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Ben Arfa to start at Swansea then, Pards has done this before with HBA and then spring upon the opposition. Wishful thinking but never know !

  • 25 ash1001 // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    I thought APs forte was Man Management, he seems to be doing things and saying things that puts a big doubt in my mind.
    i.e Ignoring Colo when he went off on Sunday.
    Playing down HBA regarding his fitness.
    Having a bit of a go at Shola.
    Casting Mike Williamson aside
    and the list goes on.
    Now I accept that Williamson and Shola are not quite up to PL standard, but particularly in Williamsons case he gave everything for the club, and Shola tried his best within Shola terms.
    AP you do not go public on your opinions of players, that does no one any good at all, least of all the players

  • 26 TimKrulFan // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    Have no sympathy for Williamson he wouldn’t stand out playing for my team.

  • 27 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM


    There is far too much oversensitivity on the comments of managers, especially at the Toon.

    At least we haven’t got a guy mouthing off about the owner and board’s shortcomings and hasn’t had endless facedowns with senior players at training.

  • 28 martoon // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    I don’t like to say I told you so but…………

    martoon // Feb 27, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Morning lads – I can’t reveal my source but I can tell you that Colo’s back injury is a lot worse than the club are making out. There is no way he will be playing on Saturday

  • 29 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    mind you we haven’t got a dressing room full of prima donnas

  • 30 Marty-Toon // Feb 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Shame for Willo but he’s been a real liability at the back.
    Always expecting his one howler or more every game.
    Anyone know where I can get the new shirt at a good price on line?

  • 31 raj of hailsley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    JfA @23
    Very excellent postings I am agreeing with you totally.

  • 32 AndyNUFC // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Got to think back to SBR for the last toon manager who gave great interviews… Apart from Shola being Carl Cort! But then as our favourite geordie he would get away with home truths whereas Pardew is a bit cynical with certain players and makes a few off the cuff statements.

    Then again a lot can be made of reading into a few words and overall I think Pardew says the right things.

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    If you don’t like saying it then why did you,if he does play it will be easier just to forget you said it.

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Pardew has got some type of affliction where his brain sometimes loses contol of his lips.

  • 35 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:12 PM


    may your chillies all be Trinidad Moruga Scorpions !

  • 36 martoon // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    JFA @33 – He won’t be playing Saturday – on Tuesday he couldn’t even walk because he was in so much pain!

  • 37 raj of hailsley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    One thousand apologies but the scorpion isn’t agreeing with me.

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    I hope he doesn’t expect to go and see his doctor in Bueson Aires,that owld chesnut.

  • 39 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:21 PM


    are you still in orbit ?

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Yo yo,
    Indeed,i’m having my feet firmly in the ground.

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:25 PM


  • 42 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    JfA / RoH

    This schizo stuff is pure mindphucking

  • 43 martoon // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    JFA @38 – Good one 🙂

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    evening jail/raj/bananaman. -I am now totally confused as to who is who, who said what, when where why. This MPD is causing some bother on the blog.
    Anyway back to football -a couple of posters suggested earlier that Sissoko’s role of an attacking midfielder is down to Percy. This is not true -Sissoko has been described as an attacking midfielder or an all round central midfielder before he even signed for the Toon -so it can hardly be down to Percy. Link to a site -football data base -when he was at Toulouse which describes his positions:-

    I’m all for giving credit where it is due -but not when it has been imagined.

  • 45 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Mr T

    But Sissoko has almost been playing in the hole – more advanced than a CAM whilst also having a box to box role so this is a new variation on his previous playing positions

    You really should give credit where it is due. Pardew has set this side up well.

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Mister tuff,
    Well I’ve been rumbled :0,just thought I’d have my fun for the day and to hopefully show that Pushy pardew that it’s just not only privately cool dude,but alas that’s the end of raj and I assure the end of my dual posting,and besides to be any good at it you need to remember to not use the same device to post on, 🙂

  • 47 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:54 PM


    You def need a Trinidad Moruga Scorpion !

  • 48 hotdog // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    £2 million for Williamson. Bollance that’s comedy gold right there. Haha

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    yo yo,
    Had a Scotch bonnet once and that was far too good for Ashley.

  • 50 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM


    considering the inflated prices English players go for and as long as it is not near end of contract then that would be a bargain price imo

  • 51 check the toastie // Feb 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Rant related to previous article in which Pardew states that without Yanga we need not bother going to Swansea as we would get nowt. A right kick in the knacker for Willo who has actually done fine in a lesser side, an honest pro is now seen as a scapegoat, how to get all the lads playing for you, you dickhead Pardew.

    So let me get this right Steven Taylor gets injured in training friday, no point in turning up, what a total bellend, how to demotivate players, c0ck with a capital C0CK.

    This club needs a proper manager who gets the best out of his players even in a crisis, rather than throwing in the towel, prick.

    And as for now pointing out that Benny is not match fit, wait on, is he not manager of the team, why is he not on top of this, 2 weeks ago he is praising Clairfontaine for looking after the lad and sending him back in great shape, the man must spin himself to sleep, just shut the fu#k up and try and get us to play some assertive football you clown.

    You never know he might recall Sammi and Fergy to replace Benny and Marv on the bench.

    Self promoting Asshole.

  • 52 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Scotch Bonnet skin cream … now there’s a thought

  • 53 Ketsbaia9 // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    He doesn’t deserve to be at this footballer. I can’t believe he made a professional football. Someone must have been drunk spotting him. Complete liability. Pardew’s right in what he’s been saying. Him and Simmo cost us champions league football last season. 4-0, 5-0 and 5-2 defeats were simply not good enough.

  • 54 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:02 PM


    Your gift for twisting words into the shape you want them is only on a par with your hatred of Pardew

  • 55 Big Pappa Cissé // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    Has anyone else realized Cisse is the only one on the blog banner that looks happy ? . The rest of them look a right depressing bunch 🙂

  • 56 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:04 PM


    Your record is broken

  • 57 check the toastie // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Pardews exact quote below. Pick the bones out of it if you want Pardew lovers, but basically to me it says that if we lose another Centre Back before the game we cant win. What a thick piece of shit. I look after a set of lads, the best lad is off sick, we all just throw the towel in and say , f#ck it wont get this done now, just plain stupid shit by a man who continues to defy belief, out of his depth and needs to go.

    Pardews Quote – “It is doubtful for Coloccini, I think, for Swansea and, if you’d taken him and Tim out of the team six weeks ago we wouldn’t have a chance of winning this game.”

    Oh my F##king word, piss is boiling with this stupid arse covering shit.

  • 58 hotdog // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Yo-yo. You’re taking the piss right!

  • 59 check the toastie // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Over and Out….

  • 60 Phil1981 // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Pardews comments are designed to further make us believe that our dismal first half of the season was not his fault. He is careful to make sure players who don’t get their game now, but did int he first half of the season are classed as inferior – Williamson, Simpson, Obertan and fringe players.

    In many ways he is right, but it doesn’t excuse that he also made a lot mistake this season, continues to play out of form players and makes horrible ‘tactical’ substitutions.

    Don’t get me wrong i’m not anti-Pardew, and i applaud the club for wanting stability at the top but I have a niggling doubt that perhaps Pardew just doesnt have the skills to take us to the next level – I think if he did he would have gotten more out of the players we had available at the start of season, and not just label then ‘not good enough’

  • 61 Mister Tuff // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    yo-yo – previous post -I’m not saying that Sissoko never played in a defensive role and accept that he was also called a box to box midfielder -also the new Viera- all I’m saying is that his role as an attacking midfielder has not been “discovered” for the first time -since he signed for us. Sissoko clearly suits this role as an attacking midfielder -he has the speed and power to burst through the last line of defence. Since the new arrivals have come I really have no complaints at all -the transition from what was before is quite breathtaking.

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    I think what he’s saying ago is that six weeks ago STaylor was injured and we wouldn’t have been able to field two CBs,don’t why he had to Mention Krul though.

  • 63 santonthenewmaldini // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Bottom line is a lot of our players are not good enough!!!You were all happy to criticize them earlier in the season !!

    If Pardew making constant statements regarding said players not being good enough convinces Ashley to further splash the cash in the summer then fine the plan has worked brilliantly

    If we want to be top 6 then there can be no place on the pitch for Simmo, Willo, Shola, Sammy and Obertan

    Will give Sammy the benefit of the doubt with one more season when he comes back from loan the rest have had enough chances sell Obertan get Puncheon on a free instant upgrade

  • 64 AndyNUFC // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Check he’s saying Krul and Colo have kept us going, basically because they’ve helped the team win recently – which is true. Don’t you think its a statement to Taylor, M’Biwa and Elliot to step up to fill in for those and continue the standard of winning?
    I don’t think he always gets his comments on players correct but nobody, unless they’re happy for bottom half finishes and no cups, could defend Williamson. He played his best football in the championship and when our whole team were on form last year, which we haven’t been at all this season.

  • 65 AndyNUFC // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    You can also make a inference that Sammy Ameobi “won’t get past the current wingers” means he should give up and never play again – but its an observation to play the long game = don’t just think you can play because he’s injured and stay in the team unless you can prove you’re worth it more than them.

  • 66 Mister Tuff // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Jail – injecting a little of humour into the blog is fine and lightens things up.There is nothing the matter with having a few laughs. I must say your initial posts about watching the Toon in the nineties in the far east I suspected as dodgy but I never spotted the anagram of your name. I hope nobody new appears making on they are a psychologist.
    Anyway I’ve had a few laughs – good posts – you are such a cool dude —err MMmmm – no your not I take it back.

  • 67 Tsunki // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    Of course its just mind games HBA is just feigning being unfit so he can bide his time for a summer dream move to his beloved mackems (‘mon cher club de foot – le PSG de wearside’) for £1.5m with TitUs Bumble returning in exchange. Pretty good deal all round for Pardew, being the 7-year interim manager an’ all.

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    I’m not pro or anti Pardew even though I do tend to stick up for him a bit sometimes I can’t stand the loose lipped fu(£er,but you have to understand that at the beginning of the season we had the same team that give more than their absolute all last year,then the realisation when Aug 31st came and went that there was to be no reinforcements that Pards had been promising them and the fight died and the injuries piled up,they are all proffessional footballers and most probably have a good understanding of the game so therefore know the limitations of our youth players,at least for the next couple of years,so can you imagine the kick in the teeth they must have felt when Pardew had to walk in the dressing room and tell them that EL spot they worked their ar&es off for was going to be played by the U21s as the squad wasn’t big enough they must have been demoralised,pards has dropped some terrible bollo”ks but with four out of six wins with the players he was promised shows he can get results.

  • 69 Spuggy // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Confirmation bias. Yawn.

  • 70 hotdog // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Santon. Well said. You could probably add a few more but if we keep buying well, the season after next should really see us threatening the honours.

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    Watching the toon in the far east ? nineties ?,not me or raj…

  • 72 Spuggy // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Pardews Quote – “It is doubtful for Coloccini, I think, for Swansea and, if you’d taken him and Tim out of the team six weeks ago we wouldn’t have a chance of winning this game.”

    Errr the meaning is simple and check you have used your own interpretation to suite your hatred.

    He is saying that 6 weeks ago we didn’t have the depth we have now to replace colo and krul was keeping us in games as our ball retention and attack was poor before Cabaye came back and mbiwa sissoko Gouffran were added to attack.

    See the blog hasn’t changed, so negative.

  • 73 Spuggy // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    On pards and players they all respect him immensely with arfa being the latest to sing his praises.

  • 74 Spuggy // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    If I don’t perform or need to improve at work is rather my boss be honest and I think the players appreciate his honesty. Their performance is there for all to see unlike mine.

  • 75 Spuggy // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Mwah 😉

  • 76 Mister Tuff // Feb 28, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    jail -just shows how confused I am -apologies if not you. It was yesterday or the day before someone appeared explaining he was a first time poster from Singapore or Malaysia and had seen the Toon on the Telly -when he was 13 -in the nineties -and has been a Toon supporter ever since. His posts contained excellent English and English idioms and phraseology which seemed to me to be unusual to use unless you were English.
    I clearly need a rest. I hope that bloody Carl does not turn up – that’s all I’ll need.

  • 77 Jail for Ashley // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    I think he was from Singapore to English parents or something like that,just hope Pushy doesn’t come on bigging Ian Toon up while putting me down,that’s all I need 🙁

  • 78 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM


    Yes £2m for Willo. That is what u pay for an experience English defender these days? Admittedly he has not had a great season but has some qualities, obviously not pace. But in 3 seasons with us he has clocked up a respectable 84 appearances so he must have done a few things right.

  • 79 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Mr T

    Yeh, we knew he was versatile but he is playing a slightly different role and I bet you Pards knew exactly how he was going to play him when we got him from the scouting reports. He has been piecing together this side like a jigsaw since he came here and is gradually building the side that will play his way. He is not a purist but a total pragmatist so it ain’t always going to be pretty.
    SAF is his role model but the main problem imo is SAF will always tell his side to go for the second killer goal but AP hangs back sometimes and seems to lack the confidence to drive the team once we get ahead. Now he has better players and fewer points of weakness in the side he may change this tactic – I hope so.

    So AP does deserve credit for where we are now….

  • 80 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Controversial comment.

    Based on HBAs comments while he was out I am preparing for him to leave within the next 18 months.

    The club are ‘preparing a contact offer’ for me that sounds like we will offer him around the same with a 2-3 year extension. The club can not be seen to be pushing him out the door but allow HBA to reject the offer and find a new club.

    He is my second favourite player behind the influential cabaye.

    But HBA does not impact enough on games to be indispensable to this team. He could be sold for £20m which these days buys us 5 promising players which have transformed our season. Was last transfer window a one off? Time will tell.

    We don’t have a ready made replacement the squad as HBA is a difficult player to replace but there must be options abroad or in the championship who could become good players? Once has been mentioned and score goals from the wing but come with the English player premium. Maybe he is worth a punt tho?

    Other players in the ilk of Hba? Belhanda?

  • 81 yo-yo // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM


    Yes he is worth £2m with a reasonable length contract in place because that is the going rate for mediocre English defenders. I’m being pragmatic here.

  • 82 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Once – tom ince

  • 83 hotdog // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Bollance. Time will tell but if I had £2 million to spend on a centre back, I wouldn’t be looking at him. I wish the lad all the best and he seems a good guy and pro but that is where the compliments end.

  • 84 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Yo yo

    Thanks for the vote of confidence. Willo should not be the only one out the door. The playing squad is evolving and improving. I would argue faster than the rate of development of our development squad which could result in another big clear out. But as the evolutionary theorist devised, it is a survival of the fittest.

  • 85 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Survival of the fittest

    Sadly my favourite youth player won’t make it..

    Any ideas who that could be??

  • 86 Ian Toon // Feb 28, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    JFA- I would be negligent if I did not again bring to your attention my believe that you display symptoms of passive aggressive behaviour. You should not attempt to mask the condition but do something about it. Think of me what you will, my conscience is clear.

  • 87 bollance // Feb 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM


    I will never forget the day N’Zog out jumped him at home vs Wigan when Colo scored late on to level 2-2.

    My favourite youth player is of course Vuckic.

    Fergie – About time he went out on loan.. A season too late in my opinion. Who’s fault? The club becuase we have never had sufficient full back cover to allow him to go out.

    In my opinion we need 5+ new players so we can send out at least 11+ player out on loan at the start of the season. Barring a miracle we wont be in Europe next season so the develpment squad need to be in the football league, SPL or Ligue 1 which will happen (a guess).

  • 88 ToonDownSouth // Feb 28, 2013 at 11:18 PM


    If you’re reading this, you seriously need to take a break. From football, from Newcastle, from this blog, whatever it is that makes you so angry and miserable all the time.

    It’s unhealthy. Every time Pardew gives an interview you look for a way to twist it and fuel your hatred, then rush online to spread the word – it’s really really weird, and like I said, it’s not healthy.

    If there was anything in my life that inspired so much anger and spite, I would cut it out.

  • 89 Sydney Toon // Feb 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    TDs – well said. Check needs to take a time out in the corner. I have been reading this blog for over 2 years and have found it generally negative, even when things are going well.

    It is amazing how something in writing is misinturpreted into bagging Williamson. Mike is a good centre half, I think he is a useful player for our depth but in terms of a starter, he would certainly start for a Reading or similar. He has served the Club well, he defended his teamates and managers (Hughton & Pardew) like a pro should. He might be tall but his leap is generally poor. People hear think that a defender has to head the ball all the time. Challenging is enough for most managers. But when you watch him, he communicates strongly. Kets and others saying he and simpson are liabilities, are very wrong indeed. All squads need useful squad players to come in and do a job for a few games while the starters are injured or suspended. We cant play colo, taylor, mbiwa, cabs, hba etc etc in every games, especially those league cup games against lower teams, purely based on high risk of injury. I for one want Williamson to stay because he will bring experience if our starting CB’s are out and we cant ask Streete and Good to come in and perform to their standard – WE TRIED THAT THIS SEASON AND IT BLEW UP IN OUR FACES!!
    Oh because I am a strong supporter of the A-League hear in Aus, Curtis Good is a future Captain of his country-guarenteed. One of our best ever CB’s and former NUFC player Craig Moore, thinks he will be a full international by the time WC 2014 arrives. Another Carr special but one of the most exciting prospects defensive players to come from this country since Moore and Lucas Neill

  • 90 Mister Tuff // Mar 1, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    yo-yo @79 I think you have a valid point about Percy not having the confidence to go for the second killer goal. Somebody on here suggested something similar -based on what position he played when he was playing for Palace ie defensive mentality.
    A couple of days ago somebody posted a link re an interview by the French Soton midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin saying that Percy was at him every day to be more defensive and to tackle. So I think there is an element of truth that Percy has a more defensive mindset than an attacking one.
    Link to article:-

  • 91 Mister Tuff // Mar 1, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Ian Toon – evening – if Jail morphs into Bananaman and intentionally throws down a couple of banana skins intending fellow bloggers would slip on the offending fruit coverings -that indeed may be classed as aggression. We’ll have to keep an eye on him.
    A good “conscience” quote by Mark Twain -(may apply to us all):-
    “A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory.”

  • 92 SupaToonKid // Mar 1, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    If you had a choice to sign Wilfried Bony, Ricky van Wolfswinkel or Pierre Emerick Aubemeyang, who would you choose?

  • 93 Mister Tuff // Mar 1, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    SupaToon – I would go for PEA -whilst I like Bony -strong player -i don’t know a lot about van Wolfswinkel. Aubameyang looks like a good player, very confident -has to be very sure of himself to get those crystal boots. I posted to Torq Toon a couple of days ago as he is working for a fortnight at St Etienne -asking him if he could get (as far as he can) the inside track on PEA. I think a super star of the future.

  • 94 SupaToonKid // Mar 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Mister Tuff

    I like the look of both Bony & Aubameyang. I don’t really know why I included RVW as he’s not who I’d go for. Vitesse have a CAM as well called Marco van Ginkel. This lad looks amazing at 20 years old. I would love 1 of van Ginkel, Maher or Wijnaldum. All superb attacking mids. Wijnaldum is my favourite though due to his wing capabilities as well.

  • 95 Mister Tuff // Mar 1, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Supantoon -currently PEA is on form -scored 6 goals in the last 5 games. I posted a link last week ref a cheeky back heel goal he scored – cross came in -he was marked and only thing feasible was a back heel -straight into the net – I think it was their game against Lille or might have been Nancy. But the audacity to try such a technique reveals the lad ouzes cofidence. But in any event we certainly need a striker/attacking midfielder who can burst through the last line of defence. Sissoko may fulfill this role but upon reading his history -French bloggers suggest he is a bit 50/50 -has a few good games then a few bad ones – bit inconsistent -this may change of course from now on -hopefully. I think Didier Deschamps now sees him as a number 10. All in all the French guys have saved our season.

  • 96 Sydney Toon // Mar 1, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    SupaToon – based on our current formation, I think Bony would be too similar to Cisse and Aubemayang has too strong of an ego. Out of those 3 I would have to go for Van Wolfswinkel based purely on greater international experience, strong and has Europe experience. Most expensive out of the 3 but certainly somebody who will get us 15-20 goals a season.
    Outside this 3 what about these strikers:

    Bas Dost
    Kevin Gameiro
    Christian Benteke
    John Guidetti
    Franco Di Santo
    Or a cheeky loan bid for Romelu Lukaku

  • 97 Sydney Toon // Mar 1, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Looking at our remaining fixture list and if results go our way, there is no reason why we can’t achieve a Top 8 finish. Here is the remaining fixtures and hopeful results:
    Swansea v NUFC = 2-2 D
    NUFC x Stoke = 3-0 W
    Wigan v NUFC = 1-2 W
    Man City v NUFC = 0-0 D

    NUFC v Fulham = 1-0 W
    NUFC v Mackems = 4-0 W
    WBA v NUFC = 1-1 D
    NUFC v Liverpool = 2-1 W

    West Ham v NUFC = 0-1 W
    QPR v NUFC = 0-2 W
    NUFC v Arsenal = 4-3 W

    So with optimism, we can achieve a further 27 points giving us 57 points. Definately within a chance to be Top 8.

  • 98 Ben_BKK // Mar 1, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    Sydney – while I’m also optimistic, and agree with a lot of your results, I can’t see us going unbeaten in the league until the end of the season.

  • 99 Sydney Toon // Mar 1, 2013 at 3:41 AM

    Maybe I am being overly optimistic but being a Toon supporter and an Aussie, it is expected to at least go for it! The only games I would be OK to lose to would be Man City & Arsenal and would possibly accept a point against Liverpool, the other matches should be winnable providing our starting 11 remains fit and free from suspension.

  • 100 toonincheek // Mar 1, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    Lawro has us down for a draw on Sunday.
    Piers Morgan goes for a home win.

    Makes me feel far more confident of a win.

  • 101 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Mar 1, 2013 at 7:08 AM

    5under1ands McClean.


  • 102 north east lincs toon // Mar 1, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    Benny to liverscum for 20m seriously what f*****g planet are these bellend s on

  • 103 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Mar 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

    Particular extract:

    “I think Harry was more free and let you do what you want. Andre does that too, but there’s a lot more tactical work. I think it’s something that’s good to learn. We’ve done well this year and I think that’s down to our defending as well as attacking.”

    Another manager who is ruining players by also focusing on defending. Clueless bunch of idiots….

    Oh and good morning

  • 104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Mar 1, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    and something to make you proud…

    2 out of 6 famous manager rants go to Newcastle managers! Whoop whoop! Please excuse my whoops, I shall not do it again.

  • 105 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Mar 1, 2013 at 8:53 AM


  • 106 Ba Humbug // Mar 1, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    Surprised by Pardews comments on CBs, just totally undermines Willo.

    Surely he can word his comments differently, just focussing on the positives. Does he not think that players are aware of what the manager says to the press??

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Mar 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Ba…He’s normally pretty good at that aspect of management. Perhaps he’s guilty of being over excited at the prospect of actually having quality CB’s at his disposal. Still, I can’t imagine Willo is too pleased.

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