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Newcastle Winger Likely To Leave In Summer

1:11 pm, Wednesday, March 13th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 77 Comments

talkSPORT is reporting today that Newcastle will be ready to sell winger Gabby Obertan in the summer.

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Gabby Obertan - will leave Newcastle in summer

Gabby has played 47 times for Newcastle with two goals since joining us from Manchester United in the summer of 2011, and lately he has found it hard to even make the bench,  since the five Frenchmen arrived in January.

And it’s hardly surprising the Frenchman, who turned 24 last month,  just wants to play regularly, which is the major reason he left the Red Devils almost two years ago, after playing only 28 times in two seasons for the Manchester powerhouse.

Newcastle paid £3M to Manchester United for the winge almost two year ago, and the club will be looking to get that amount back for the Frenchman, who is now expected to leave in the summer, and probably return to the French Ligue 1.

Obertan has made only three starts in the Premier League this season, and that’s when Newcastle were really short of players in the November through January time-frame – so the future does not look too bright for the French U21 International on Tyneside.

Newcastle are expected to bring in a striker, center-back and central midfield player to augment the squad this summer – and they may also unload some other fringe players before September.

What do you think?

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77 responses so far ↓

  • 1 geordiesteve520 // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    I’ve tried to remain positive about this fellas, but truth be told he is just not good enough. If we can recoup our money then that’d be great – use him as a make-weight in a deal…even better.

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Nooooooooooo
    Ffs this lad is the very future of the club the hell are we playing at!

  • 3 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    I thought when i grabbed assists against man u and arsenal he might have turned a corner. Sadly as its been time and time again with gabby its 1 step forward 2 steps back. His performance against anzhi was horrific. Hopefully this means we’re in for a quality winger this summer.

    That being said this is talksport :)

  • 4 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    TS…no doubt Messi is a special player :)

    …but to me so is Benny!

  • 5 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    He grabbed them, not me sorry about getting you’re hopes up :)

  • 6 Troy Stavers // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Oba has played consistently throughout. Crap.

    He is a championship player.

    He does try so I won’t berate him on the pitch. I admire that in people.

    He’s making a canny living from being a pro footballer so we can’t feel too sorry for him.

  • 7 north east lincs toon // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    If villa go down part ex with Weimann quality winger

  • 8 Unbelievable Tekkers // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Still struggling to workout how this guy has represented France at every single youth level.

  • 9 blew // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Jesper @ 4
    Messi plays every game, Benny has made 47 appearances in 3 seasons.
    He can be special but apparently injury prone. Like Gosling and Vuckic

  • 10 SportBilly // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Does everyone think he has actually had a decent chance in a confident team though? In the Euro games he has been frustrating at times but also shows some pace and dare I say potential?

  • 11 Troy Stavers // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    The French won’t pay £3m for him!!!!!

    That would cause a national revolt!!!!!!

    We bought Missoko, Cabaye et al for around £3m each!!!!!

    Surely they aren’t that daft. :-D

  • 12 Troy Stavers // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    @Sportbilly

    The euro games he played well in we’re all inferior opposition. Our second string, which are crap, got this far. Even Sammi looked a world beater against them.

  • 13 Ashton // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Pardew should try playing him as a full back sometime, and see how it goes. He is good at defending and I’ve seen him intercept and dispossess his opponents many times alas after losing the ball to the opponents! but that’s not the point. He has all the tools to be a good fullback. He would have more time and space as a full back which is something he is struggling with, when played as a winger.

  • 14 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    genuine terrible player

    I’be given him plenty time and he has never taken his chance. The odd good performance but no where near enough.

    He doesn’t track back well enough, lets people run off him too much and just seems to no care when he loses the ball.

    He never even tries to beat his man, he just almost accepts he will fail and rolls the ball inside…no good for a wide man.

  • 15 Troy Stavers // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    @Ashton

    I think our proper full backs are more than adequate without experimenting with a failed winger.

  • 16 Troy Stavers // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    I think he would do a good impersonation of an inflatable supporter which Barca have behind their goals and use when they score. :-D

    There’s always a role for everyone. ;-)

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    troy

    Exactly. If the people complain about santon’s defending (i do a bit too) then this place would go nuts with obertan at the back.

  • 18 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Sportbilly
    Tbf when we signed him he played straight for half a season including in an 11 game unbeaten run, there’s only so long that the confidence excuse has any merit and I think he’s used it well past it’s sell by date, there’s only so long a player can live on potential before it has to turn into ability, and it’s just not going to happen certainly not here

  • 19 G // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    “Newcastle paid £3M to Manchester United for the winge almost two year ago”

    Indeed Ed, that’s all most fans have done about him since we signed it seems.

  • 20 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    If his football career never happens then there’s always spongebob the musical

  • 21 G // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    since He signed even

  • 22 ilovetoon8788 // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Obertan has lots of pace and everything positive ends there. Doesn’t have the footballing brain required to play in the top flight. He makes routledge look like a world class winger.

    He’s a championship player and will likely be playing his trade there. And no one will pay 3m for him.

  • 23 Ashton // Mar 13, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Troy Stavers

    Maybe next season. I personally believe that he would do a better job as a fullback than Tavernier, Ferguson and maybe even Simpson. His pace is too much and most wingers would struggle to go past him.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Obertan is meant to have pace but its a rare occasion he actually uses it….he never just does what bale or walcott does and shift it 20 yards past the full back and beat him to it…he just messes about and loses the ball or puts in the tamest of crosses.

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    ashton

    wingers might struggle to go past him with pace but they’d easy beat him with a trick and get plenty of room to cross the ball.

  • 26 Tinman // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    He is absolutely shite, there is no debate here. Move on!

  • 27 Ashton // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Every time I’ve seen him play he has been good at 1 on 1′s, defensively .

  • 28 Tinman // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Just read Ben Arfa aint playing on Thursday. Gutted.

  • 29 t00ntime // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    According to twitter, HBA hasnt recoverd from his hamstring injury and wont play thursday.
    IMO we need to look into this because its becoming a problem. This is the 2nd time (this season alone) hba has been brought back before he recoverd from his injury. Is it APs fault or the medical staff?

  • 30 Agent Stardust // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Just heard toon are in for O’Shea for next season as replacement for Taylor

  • 31 santonthenewmaldini // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    I have tried my best to give him a chance but he is never going to make it as a footballer here we might struggle to get a decent fee for him as well so would be better used in a swap deal

    He has been found to not be better than Routledge and he was bought to be an upgrade and before everyone goes on about it Routledge is not good enough either he still contributes nothing at Swansea his crossing is still dire it was a crap cross that bounced off Mbiwa’s head and off Santon’s leg he just has pace and plays the simple pass at Swansea

    We need someone with the pace of those 2 boys but actually someone who can score and cross the ball good as Cisse needs crosses he gets fed on scraps all game every game rarely scores a header because we never deliver it to him

  • 32 G // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Agent Stardust @ 30. Another fortnight before 1st April son.

  • 33 jayphoto // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    If obertan went to the french league on the wages hes on now hed be one of the highest paid outside of the top 3! That league cant afford him!

  • 34 wreker16 // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Obertan, obertan, obertan………. I thought like Ranirix that Man U and arsenal might be the turning point….. But no……. Getting 3 mil for him would be a very good result. Buy a new winger please mike :)

  • 35 jayphoto // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    @31 problem is usually pace and composure dont together and when they do it costs a bomb :ie lucas maura, neymar, gareth bale etc

  • 36 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    For me it has to be the medical team. Im sure if pards was told benny wasn’t 100%, then he wouldn’t have brought him back, he would have waited for it to clear up. We didn’t really need him back so urgently this time round so i doubt pards would’ve rushed him back.

    Either the medical team is at fault, or theres some kind of underlying problem with his hamstring.

  • 37 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Blew…yes Benny is probably a product off mismanage from clubs and not taking good care of himself!

    …every young player wants to play every single game so it is very important that clubs take good care of the young players give them time to recover when injured.

    Even if the player wants to play regardless :)

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    ashton

    I still wouldn’t trust obertan…it only takes half a yard and somebody can whip in a cross. He would get found out there.

    We also have 3 very good fullbacks who will be here next season and for the remainder of this season simmo is still the better option….plus raylor will be back next year so theres 2 for each full back position.

    Think we should try and cut our losses on obertan…if somebody will take him and he is willing to join that club let him go.

  • 39 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    No idea with benny…..the extra weight, the freezing temps and the artificial pitch weren’t ideal conditions to return him to the first team.

    To me that suggests he was fit enough to have a run out otherwise you wouldn’t risk him in that game.

    It could be a weakness in his hamstrings, look healed but very delicate.

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    t00ntime…this it what I have been trying to say for month.

    …but alot of people on here won’t have it when I say AP have mismanaged Benny when it comes to his hamstring problem.

    One of the recurring excuses is that why would AP mismanage Benny when he was so patient with him after he broke his leg.

    The other excuse has been why blame AP if the medic of those in France has vouch for him.

    Answer: Because bringer a player back from a hamstring 16 days without the proper scans is reckless and happens too often in England. There was many a study of this a few years ago in England.

    And because in the end the responsibility is with Pardew. If he is ignorant about these kinds of injuries he need to have people around him that knows better.

    In the end we have missed Benny for 3-4 month because of Pardew’s mismanage of his hamstring. (doesn’t matter what the medics or those in France have told him)

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    *actually regardless of scan bringing a player back after 16 days with a hamstring is reckless. And so is playing a player recovering from a hamstring on astroturf in cold weather!

  • 42 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    jesper

    If our medics have told pardew benny is ok to play and benny agrees and has had no problems then that’s not pardews fault.

    He can only go off the advice given.

    If the medics have messed up several times with different players then you can question why the club hasn’t replaced them.

    but I don’t see how you can blame pardew if he is following the advice of medical professionals.

    If Pardew has been told benny is 50/50 or there is a reasonable risk he will injure himself and he plays him then he takes full responsibility in my view.

    It’s not clear which of the two scenarios have happened though so impossible to blame pardew really.

  • 43 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    The problem with offloading obertan will be money
    His fee for starters can’t see anyone wanting to pay much more than £1.5 mil for him, not the biggest loss for us but still a big a loss for a young lad
    Secondly his wage demands, not sure if anyone can clarify his wages but I’ve heard he’s on 25-30k a week that’s a pretty big salary for a player who’s not done anything to justify it not many teams will want to pay him that, wonder if Swansea are still interested ;)
    Lets hope the lad just wants to play football and we don’t have another xisco on are hands!!! Would also like too see gosling moved on aswell just hasn’t done anything and am I right that this is his 3 rd season with us??

    Jesper
    T00ntime asked if its AP or the medical team mate, he didn’t say it was pardew, starting to see how you get your wires crossed a bit with some posters!

  • 44 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Jesper… As i said above i doubt pards would’ve brought him back early this time around if he hadn’t got clearance from the medical team. We didn’t really need him desperately this time around. I honestly don’t think pardew is that stupid to bring him back that early if he wasn’t assured HBA was ready.

    Although like you say it probably wasnt the best idea to bring him back on a frozen astro pitch. But i think the fault is mostly with the medics. Or it could simply be a case that its a injury which has an unidentified underlying cause.

  • 45 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    TS…because with the knowledge we have now about hamstrings Pardew should know better.

    …you don’t play any player with a hamstring after 16 days! It should never matter what the player says (every wants to play)

    If the medics are incompetent then I would say it is up to Pardew ask to get them sorted out.

    In the end Pardew is in change. People in charge takes responsibility!

  • 46 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Sage and rainrix
    Spot on its what I’ve been saying for months!!!!
    Pardew is not a doctor nor is he Ben arfa, so if the medics and benny are saying I’m ready to go why would he doubt them?
    Lets be honest it’s not just benny there’s been huge question marks over are medics for a long time with several players way before pardew was here!
    If the players say he’s fit and pardew doesn’t play him then you get situations like last season where benny us giving interviews saying he’s been fit and pardew gets slated, lose lose situation for AP
    Especially as some only need a half excuse to slate pardew

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Rainrix

    Exactly.

    There was no rush to bring him back…we had options if needed.

    Pardew isn’t a doctor so providing he follows the advice of the medics then I have no issue with him.

  • 48 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Jesper
    Pardews not in charge it’s up to ash and llambais to make sure pardew has the best possible team around him

  • 49 Tommyy // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    If I’m honest, personally I feel it’s time to sever ties with Ben Arfa. It’s a real shame because he’s been brilliant at times and a joy to watch. However he is simply not available often enough, which defeats the purpose of employing him.
    There are plenty of up and coming youngsters who have his natural ability who have far better injury records. I’m certain with some scouting we can find a raw player who we can develop into someone as good as him in 2 – 3 years time, without the injury concerns and potential baggage.
    Obviously in an ideal scenario I’d have Ben Arfa in the team every week but it will simply never happen. He’s 26 now and the time for potential is over and he needs to start playing and delivering consistently, otherwise why are we bothering?
    Just a personal opinion as I said but I’m beginning to see Ben Arfa as more of a luxury item that may or may not turn up and play, as opposed to a prized asset who we can rely on like Bale, Cazorla, Hazard etc.

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    jesper

    It depends on the level of damage though…..did he tare it…if so what grade tare. Or did he just feel it stiffen up without taring.

    There are too many variables to say 16 days is silly and many examples where players have come back in that time frame and not had the injury made worse.

    The medics don’t work for Pardew…if they are consistently poor then all he can do is ask mike ashley to replace them with more competent staff, its out of his hands.

    If its only benny they are getting wrong then maybe it’s something underlying as said before that is causing it to re-occur which might not be obvious to spot.

  • 51 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Tommyy
    Controversial mate!
    You bring up some fair points mate to be fair, don’t think players like chamberlain are far off the standard

  • 52 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    A few years ago the football association conducted a detailed analysis of hamstring injuries sustained in English professional football over two competitive seasons.

    Club medical staff at 91 professional football clubs annotated player injuries over two seasons. A specific injury audit questionnaire was used together with a weekly form that documented each clubs’ current injury status.

    The result was that hamstring strains accounted for 12% of the total injuries over the two seasons with nearly half (53%) involving the biceps femoris. An average of five hamstring strains per club per season was observed. A total of 13 116 days and 2029 matches were missed because of hamstring strains, giving an average of 90 days and 15 matches missed per club per season. In 57% of cases, the injury occurred during running. Hamstring strains were most often observed during matches (62%) with an increase at the end of each half (p<0.01). Groups of players sustaining higher than expected rates of hamstring injury were Premiership (p<0.01) and outfield players (p<0.01), players of black ethnic origin (p<0.05), and players in the older age groups (p<0.01). Only 5% of hamstring strains underwent some form of diagnostic investigation. The reinjury rate for hamstring injury was 12%.

    The conclusion was that hamstring strains are common in football. In trying to reduce the number of initial and recurrent hamstring strains in football, prevention of initial injury is paramount. If injury does occur, the importance of differential diagnosis followed by the management of all causes of posterior thigh pain is emphasised. Clinical reasoning with treatment based on best available evidence is recommended.

    The real question is what precortion did Pardew and his team take and what scans did Benny go through before he played 16 days after the hamstring. A player should never play before every checkup has been made.

    Scans will show problems; so you have to wonder how the medics came to the conclusion that Benny could play and why Pardew didn't question it (common sense should prevail)

  • 53 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Tads… Aye theres always been something fishy with our team regarding injuries for a while now. There was some suggestion that it was the training grounds but its always tricky when you dont know what goes on behind the scenes. Everything’s just speculation really.

    Sage… 2 different medical teams as well, clairfontauen’s or however you spell it and our own gave the go ahead for light training, which he was in for a while, 3 weeks plus. Really don’t think this has anything to do with pards, it could just as easily be freak bad luck.

  • 54 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    jesper

    it was 18 days to be awkward haha (22/11 when injured, came back 10/12).

    Not saying he wasn’t mis managed…..he might well have been.

    But there is nothing to say he was…for wall we know he went for a scan and everything looked fine and he was good to play.

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    tads…dissagree 100%!

    TS…playing someone after 16 days with a hamstring is reckless. It is not a question of wheater the player pulls though, but the fact that you take the chance :)

    About this subject I am not moving one inch sorry guys! You can defend him all you want, but this one is on him!

    Just because it happens so often in football doesn’t make it right!

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Rainrix
    Benton took a lot of the blame, which is why I think the clubs medics have been cut some slack, but Ashley’s had the pitch relaid and added under soil heating so now for me it lies with the club doctors

  • 57 WWYCD // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth
    Then how can u explain Pardews HBA voodoo doll? Hmmm?! Yeah stumped u there haven’t I!

    Pardew hates HBA, hates Colo, hates Cisse and hates NUFC! Pardew out!

  • 58 Tommyy // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth

    No doubt it’s a controversial view, and I take no pleasure in saying it. Like many I felt at the back end of last season, Ben Arfa would kick on in preseason and really cement his reputation as being one of the best attacking players in the League this season. It just hasn’t happened, yes as a team we have been very weak for most of this season, but generally these excuses are irrelevant.
    Don’t get me wrong, I’d love it if I was proved wrong, but time is ticking away and before we know it he could be in the exact same position but be 28 going on 29.
    For me it’s more a case of when do we say goodbye? rather than whether we do.
    It’s just that I’ve lost that buzz of excitement that used to go hand in hand with him playing. Now, when he is finally in the team I’m just waiting until he’s injured again, which is only in a few weeks anyway.

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Sorry Jesper i think your flogging a dead horse to be honest mate and things like this are just another excuse to stick the knife in on pardew

    In any profession you are surrounded by people who advise on the best possible action, management is no different, if pardew could diagnose injuries to a full extent then why is there a medical team? Think your pinning far too much blame on him

  • 60 Transfer Sage // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    jesper

    sorry you are wrong then….if pardew was told by the medical staff, who are much more qualified than me, you or pardew that there was no risk in playing him then there is nothing wrong with playing him.

    It’s as simple as that.

  • 61 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Tads… Oh aye, forgot about that. Then yeah it does look like it the club doctors. I remember when big sam brought in all his sport scientists to help sort it out, which shockingly didnt work. Maybe we’re just cursed. Is benton build on a graveyard? :)

  • 62 Tommyy // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    And as you say, players such as chamberlain, Hazard are both younger and in the case of Hazard, most certainly ahead of him.
    It’s no coincidence that the French regard him as the nearly man already.

  • 63 Troy Stavers // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Agent Stardust :-D

  • 64 Rainrix // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Actually i just found out it is build on a graveyard. One where footballers dreams go to die :)

  • 65 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    WWYCD
    Shhhh don’t give Jesper more ammo, I told him they were sex dolls!!!
    I also heard that just after benny had got off crutches pardew hit him with a baseball bat

    Tommyy
    No need to justify it mate, I still think benny can be key to our success but I completely agree about the point you make about potential, there comes a time for everyone!
    The 2 words that seem to follow benny through his career are potential and maturity, pardew has certainly matured him as a player but quickly needs to find the key to use his full potential

  • 66 WWYCD // Mar 13, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Jesper
    I think u are being very harsh on Pardew mate. He’s a manager who trusted his medical staff, we were in the muck even then and we were missing big players already. He picked from what he was told, by his trusted, was avaliable

    Tbf even sending HBA on his jollies while hurt isn’t trustworth now after he came back with his pie diet

  • 67 Bambams // Mar 13, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Oba has had plenty chances, it’s his final ball and effort thst lets him down

  • 68 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    59toonarmydownsouth // Mar 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Sorry Jesper i think your flogging a dead horse to be honest mate and things like this are just another excuse to stick the knife in on pardew

    In any profession you are surrounded by people who advise on the best possible action, management is no different, if pardew could diagnose injuries to a full extent then why is there a medical team? Think your pinning far too much blame on him

    WWYCD
    Shhhh don’t give Jesper more ammo, I told him they were sex dolls!!!
    I also heard that just after benny had got off crutches pardew hit him with a baseball bat

    Tommyy
    No need to justify it mate, I still think benny can be key to our success but I completely agree about the point you make about potential, there comes a time for everyone!
    The 2 words that seem to follow benny through his career are potential and maturity, pardew has certainly matured him as a player but quickly needs to find the key to use his full potential

  • 69 WWYCD // Mar 13, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Rainrix
    Weren’t big Sams medical staff sacked pretty quickly? We never saw the benefit of having them I seem to recall

    Toonamrydownsouth
    Haha its possible Pards is a baseball wonder I have heard

  • 70 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 13, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Tads/TS/Yo…I can take the heat guys ;)

    …I am not out to get Pardew – this is not a witch hunt. But blame lies with the one in charge (if he feels he have been given wrong info then he must deal with that)

    TS…there are someone called common sense you know. Pardew should not be ignorant about these matters and he have decide himself when is advisers advise him.

    You don’t know what precautions was taken or what scans was done.

    Tads…Am I flogging a dead horse because I disagree with you? :)

    Yo…he cannot just wash his hands on it and point finger. He’s in change (he makes the decision) :)

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Mar 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Tommy,
    I wrote a very similar post the other day on HBA (not as well written as yours ) and somebody wanted me jailed and the other would liked to have crucified me.

  • 72 davis_toons // Mar 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Weimann ! yes, this guy got the DRIVE that we needed.

  • 73 SBergenwall // Mar 13, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    I think Obertan has been decent as a squad player, but he lacks consistency and the mental attributes needed to compete at this level.

  • 74 moonraker // Mar 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    re HBA: he should not have come back in Moscow on a frozen false pitch!!!
    re Obertan: I’ve watched and waited for him to show and I’m sorry but he aint good enough for this squad now even though he is talented you can see why Fergie let him go – inconsistent and unreliable on the pitch !!

  • 75 papscrunt // Mar 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Diego Gavilan part 2. Won’t be sorry to see him go personally.

  • 76 Sav // Mar 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    Mystified how we ever paid ManU 3 million for him. Who is the genius who sanctioned that? I’m struggling to think of a decent player we’ve bought from ManU in recent years…
    – Smudger? Butt ?? Obertan???
    Except for Danny Simpson, who is the best by a country mile and yet we won’t pay the lad the going rate.

  • 77 jimmysmith // Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 AM

    Not everyone’s cup of tea, I know, but if he goes I’d wager it’ll be his choice as opposed to the clubs which I believe thinks there is still more to come from him as do I.




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