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FA Add Insult To Injury – Charge Carver With Misconduct

5:59 pm, Tuesday, March 19th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 217 Comments

My goodness, just what are the FA smoking these days – and after just announcing they are taking no action on McManaman for that terrible tackle on Haidara, because they said they couldn’t since one official had witnessed the tackle, and presumably thought it was fair, they have now come out and charged Assistant Manager John Carver, who was sent off at half-time of the Wigan game, with misconduct.

You talk about adding insult to injury – this is completely ridiculous..

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John Carver – charged by FA with misconduct
McManaman wasn’t charged with anything

Newcastle United have just confirmed that the FA have charged the club’s Assistant Manager John Carver with misconduct, and this is the statement Newcastle have  released on the matter:

Newcastle United have just received notification that assistant manager John Carver has been charged with misconduct by the FA in relation to an incident at half-time during Sunday’s Barclays Premier League fixture at Wigan.

It comes after the 48-year-old was involved in a half-time fracas during Sunday’s 2-1 defeat at Wigan. Carver was seen arguing with both players and staff in reaction to Callum McManaman’s heavy challenge on Magpies defender Massadio Haidara.

The FA has also charged Wigan coach Graham Barrow with misconduct for his role during the incident.

So what are these guys at the FA smoking?

Newcastle have a player who had to be replaced after 12 minutes (Debuchy) on Sunday, and then have Massadio crippled by a terrible tackle that the FA will take no action on – and the referee didn’t see.

We just have to assume that the tackle made by McManaman was fair?

Newcastle then have a goal allowed that was clearly handball after 90 minutes to rob us of a draw – and now we have John Carver charged for misconduct.

It was not a good day at the office for Newcastle on Sunday – but the FA have again proven they are little short of a complete laughing stock.


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217 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Fully understand the reaction from Carver and can forgive him for it however rules are there to stop these confrontations so I cannot fault the FA for charging both him and the wigan coach.

    I disagree with how the FA prioritise the seriousness of these events but thats a different issue.

  • 2 Ben_BKK // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    From previous:

    Good statement from NUFC. Completely the opposite of the way Wigan have handled the whole thing, they’ve been a disgrace, from Martinez and Whelan saying it was a fair tackle, to the Wigan fans celebrating his commitment to the team. Absolutely shocking.

  • 3 Williamsonsuks // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Cheers lads for Nufc contact link. Posted a get well soon message.
    I can’t believe this has happened to us again!! What have we done wrong to deserve this? Yeah I know everybody uses that phrase when the sh1t hits the fanfan but Cmon. They loved ripping into Joey Barton every chance they had. and the Ben Arfa, De Jong thing.
    We all know that if had been 1 of Fergies players there would’ve been complete anarchy. Isn’t there someone who can over rule this pathetic, cowardly decision? All the pundits, some referees and probably every football fan (bar Wigans) knew something had to be done about that disgusting, malicious, scathing attack. I really hope Wigan go down and Whelan ends up bust!!!
    How can the justify letting McManaman off for that challenge and charge Carver for expressing his anger. He didn’t hit him, it was more like handbags really. The worlds gone mad!!!

  • 4 WWYCD // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Can’t argue with Carver being charged he lost hid head and went looking for a argument. I understand it but its fair he gets a punishment

  • 5 Ben_BKK // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    WWYCD – agreed, the Carver decision is fair, it’s just rubbing salt into the wounds that it follows on from the ridiculous McManaman decision.

  • 6 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Great statement from the club, MA has seen his reputation turn around gradually in recent times, is this the continuation of Derek’s resurgence as a managing director who we can actually rely on? Hopefully, but he still has some way to go but great words from him.

    Pushy/Ian/Carl/Mr Funk/Scarlett Pimpernel/Abominable Snowman/Loch Ness Monster/Santa Claus/Toothfairy/ or other mythical made up persona you wish to adopt:

    Stop. Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. You know what you’re doing, we know what you’re doing, all you’re doing is ensuring that no one can take you seriously. Do you genuinely think that I crave your respect?

    Ibiza hasn’t a bad word to say about anyone which is laudable, however, from my personal viewpoint, you are a tedious excuse for an adult as from the word go you continuously pat yourself on the back instead of posting something sensible and achieving respect the usual way.

    Quick question, does hugging yourself at night make you feel less lonely? Is that why you make up this personas to convince yourself you’re not totally pathetic? If so, it’s counter productive.

  • 7 Martoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM


    its a f***ing disgrace.

    they do **** all for the career threatening challenge on young haidara, yet they have the f***ing cheek to charge john carver for f***ing expressing his opinion and frustration on the pitch.


  • 8 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    We’ve just got to rely on Kharma.
    Whelan’s club gets relegated
    Macnanaman goes over the top again but rips his own tendons.
    Martinez ends up out of work.
    FA committee members get early onset dementia.

    You can just smell the rot in pretty much all footballing organisations

  • 9 ajcrawfs // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    anyone listen to the FA on talk sport?

  • 10 brighter // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    FA are the GANGSTER.

  • 11 mally72 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    How can the FA justify this grotesque miscarriage of justice they are nothing but a bunch of toothless twats imagine the same thing happening to Rooney or wallcot or any other major England player the FA would go nuts and find some way to punish the so called football player

  • 12 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Can’t argue with the decision to ban carver tbh
    But what a joke not to take action against that Wigan thug, absolutely embarrassing, surely this can’t be right
    Atleast NUFC are handling them selfs with the upmost of professionalism and are doing them selfs proud in that regard, hopefully we can get plenty of backing from other clubs when we present a case to try and show the FA some logic in there unbelievably flawed system
    Won’t do massimo any good like, and won’t get that little scouse git get banned but hopefully prevent such miscarriages happening ever again

  • 13 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Dear Sir/Madam.

    I would like to make a formal complaint regarding the disciplinary procedure that is used by your organisation. Following the recent tackle by Callum McManaman on Newcastle’s Massadio Haidara I was disgusted to see the incident will receive no further punishment. I have seen the reason given for this by an FA spokesman on television but I cannot agree with this. I have two issues to raise with this.

    The first is if retrospective action cannot be taken if a referee or official has seen the incident then why can action be taken to overturn a red card given to a player by an official. Surely the referee has seen the incident to give a red card so then why can this be looked at when the opposite, a foul seen but no action taken at the time, not be reviewed. It is a farce and nothing more than double standards.

    My second point is that the FA spokesman has said there are exceptional circumstances where a player can face further action, as in the case of Ben Thatcher, if the incident is seen but not fully punished at the time. This incident is just as disgusting as the tackle Ben Thatcher made so I fail to see how nothing can be done.

    Thank you for your time and I expect a reply to this email within the five days as your website states.

    My Email to the FA

  • 14 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    i wouldn’t be surprised if sir Alex and Wenger comment about the tackle, they have been in football for many many years and know about career ending injuries

  • 15 brighter // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Lets stand up for HAIDARA!!!!!!!!!!
    Im crying when i thinking about him………
    Can Newcastle really nothing to do for him…?

  • 16 moonraker // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Dave Whelan, Monday: “I am not going to criticise Norman Deeley – these things happen in football. He came over the ball but he didn’t do it with the aim of breaking my leg.”

    Dave Whelan, Lancashire Evening Telegraph 2010: “Norman Deeley came right over the ball. Today he would have been sent off and banned for a long time. He came six inches over the ball, he came for me not the ball.” WTF ?????

  • 17 naptoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    not nice but i hope on saturday 11 wigan players recieve a fair mcmanus tackle each and can anyone confirm was it halsey who sent off tiote against the scum for his ‘unfair’ tackle

  • 18 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Remember this is the same FA that argue for fair play and respect and then appeal against a ban on Rooney when he kicked out at that player for England.

    The are not in it for the good of the game, they are only there to benefit themselves and use their position in the FA to boost there own egos without having to make any real decisions that impact on the game.

    Football as a whole is financially driven. It is all about decision can make the most money regardless of the outcome.

  • 19 Charlietoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Right next transfer window we dont go out and buy a player we buy a thug off the street. Offer him $1000 a week. When we next play Wigan we send him on and allow him to absolutely destroy the kid and then when he is sent off we take the charge and he doesn’t play for three whole games. Seems like thats the only way justice will be served.

  • 20 Ben3arfa // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    I hate Callum McManaman
    I hate Roberto Martinez
    I hate Dave Whelan
    I hate Wigan FC and their filthy fans
    I hate Mark Halsey and his muppet assistants that day
    I hate the English FA

    Our club is far greater than to be treated with such disrespect by the morons i mentioned above . Absolutely disgusted

  • 21 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:26 PM


    It was Atkinson that sent tiote off in the derby.

  • 22 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    News is filtering through that injury to Haidara may not be as bad as first feared. Possibly just bad bruising and not ligament damage. Medical staff are struggling with diagnosis because of the amount of bruising and swelling. If you watch replays closely, the contact is actually just above the knee.

    Hope the young lad is alright. These injuries can seriously destroy a players mentality in a game. Especially bad for a defender, he will be half the player if he shirks out of 50/50 challenges

  • 23 stuart no9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    why did carver get a ban. looking at the incident again, carver was only talking to the cnut, their man started all the pushing. it gets worse.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:27 PM


    Yeh they just said the same on radio newcastle. Hopefully this is good news.

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:28 PM


    It’s for coming onto the field of play and for the way he reacted to the wigan coach too.

  • 26 thepict // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    So it is wrong according to the fa to express your anger and disgust at a thug? However , same thug can jeopardise a fellow professionals career ? There really is something wrong with the fa. Disgusting.

  • 27 mally72 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Surely now Newcastle must take their own action and go for competition to cover the costs of haidaras long road back to playing

  • 28 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM


    The precedent has been set for seeking legal action. Victor Anichebe successfully sought compensation against kevin nolan for a tackle which resulted in a long term injury.

    According to the guys on BBC newcastle total sport it has to be the player which seeks legal action and not the club.

    Not sure of Haidara would do that but I hope he does but fully understand if he doesn’t want to go through with all of that.

  • 29 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Transfer Sage, you have rumbled my source!

  • 30 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Do you have to be registered on the FA website to email them

  • 31 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:33 PM


    Yeh you do…i can’t remember why but I had a membership as I emailed them complaining before….my advice is, don’t expect a reply.

  • 32 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    If that tackle was on say the nations Darling Lampard I wonder what the outcome would be hmmmmmmmmm.

  • 33 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Another stupid set up from the FA then!!!

  • 34 hotdog // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    The boy mcmanamam may have more have a problem with the FA’s ruling. There will be alot of Geordies up and down the land who think “he has got away this”!!!!!!

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    just read my point out on radio newcastle…feel honoured

  • 36 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:37 PM


    they say it is to make sure people read and follow the rules of the site but I am convinced it is just to stop people complaining to something they see right away…having to sign up requires time and effort and people can’t always be bothered.

  • 37 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    It looks as if what was mentioned yesterday may be the only option to us!


  • 38 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    So judging by the FA’s ruling I could theoretically punch another player in the face, have the referee miss it, the linesman see the player I hit in a “collision” (not clearly) and I get away with it. Brilliant

  • 39 stuart no9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    transfer @ 25 – it was half time , play had finished. he was talking to the guy , when he was pushed by their man , carver done nothing wrong apart from react to the pushing. did their man get a ban for pushing ?

  • 40 mally72 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    So the FA has a new meaning they are now known as the Fecking asaholes bunch of pansies

  • 41 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    this just proves that lower teams and the F.A are worried that we are gonna be world giants in a few seasons time without spending great amounts of millions on players.

    just imagine looking at the top teams now and look at our team when all are fit, and then look at the outcome of millions being spent over the years by the big clubs compare to ours.

    look at our fan base compare to others, believe it or not but our passion for football and our fan base is a sum total of every 3 top teams in every major league ( Spain, Italy, Germany and England )

    by all account we ARE or WILL BE giants of Europe by no ends and will happen in a few years

  • 42 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM


    yeh there coach was punished for it too, same ban.

    I can see why they did it, nothing serious, no pushing or punches thrown but I suppose it is not ‘fair play’. I can see why it’s happened and we wouldn’t have battered an eyelid if the wigan player was banned but we are more annoyed as the tackle has got away without punishment.

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    going to send a get well card to the club for hairdara

    would anyone object to me signing it “all the fans from”

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    The English FA is in a sad state of affairs 🙁

    …just read the ruling! Has there been any news on Haidara? My thoughts are all with him!

  • 45 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:48 PM


    sign away mate

  • 46 DokToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    TS, count the toon fan from this side of the pond in… thanks…

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:50 PM


    The latest is that there is still a lot of swelling so unable to determine the damage but early signs are positive and don’t look to have serious damage.

    More scans for next week.

  • 48 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    I’ve followed the lead and sent a get well soon message to Haidara by email – using the link posted earlier. Very easy.

  • 49 mally72 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Still not a single word from Wigan in the form of an apology that club and their fans should hold their heads in shame and the next time that thug plays he gets his head kicked off

  • 50 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    with this kind of injury it took me just over a week for doctors to identified my ligament problem in my young days because of the fluid in my knee made it harder to read the scan properly, but after the operation i was back to full health within 2-3 months of rest.

  • 51 AMEOBI // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    I feel sick! What the earth is FA?! Football Association my bollocks! Clearly dont like Newcastle… Mackem c*nts!

  • 52 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    mister tuff

    I did the same. Just sent a card from an online card company.

    Included the message get well soon in both english and french and signed it “all the fans from”

  • 53 stuart no9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    transfer – ok if he also got a ban . i suppose that makes it a bit more understanding, however i believe if he hadnt pushed carver, we wouldnt be talking about his ban. to have one of your players ending up in hospital, the culprit gets off scott free , then you get pushed around by the opposite member of staff, jeez you need to be a saint not to get involved ! how many of us could do that??

  • 54 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    TS i think you need to change your name to

    ( Transfer Sage Legend )

  • 55 Markaccus // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Just heard the news. I’m lost for words. Using the excuse that the linesman had a view of it and didn’t do anything is pathetic. What a bunch of spineless f’ers!

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM


    Exaclty….the boys on radio newcastle were saying carver and stone are the guys the young foreign lads look to for guidance and work with a lot, so i understand why he has got so enraged.

    I can easily forgive his actions but also accept the punishment he got.

  • 57 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    iv’e seen the picture over and over again and where the linesmen was standing he was looking at Haidara back from his angle, so how could he see it????????

  • 58 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    black and white army

    I think something like receiving a card, personalised too from is hopefully a little boost to lad to keep his spirit and confidence up. Things like that stay with you, especially when in a new job, and hopefully keep him happy.


    It annoys me. If they FA stick to that rule, so be it, hide behind your rules. But if the linesman says he saw it but took no action (he wasn’t poorly sighted, clean view as a newspaper has shown) then his position needs to be looked at as he must have no ability to apply the rules.

  • 59 kneel before zod // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Carlsberg don’t do joke associations, but if they did…….

  • 60 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Typical FA gobbledygook. The linesman saw the coming together but not the extent of the challenge. In plain English he did not see the challenge. The FA if they had any common sense and balls would recognise that the linesman had made a mistake and seen retrospective
    punishment as the appropriate course. After all Mcmanaman’s tackle
    was seen from a bank of cameras and has been shown around the world. Carver’s behaviour whilst understandable was wrong but if Mcmanaman had been sent off would not have happened.
    Your reverting to type. Inane and risible!

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM



    There is a difference in my view between looking at something and seeing it.

    The linesman was looking at the tackle but he did not see it. Therefore the should be able to go back to it.

    This is as bad as when rooney clearly elbowed a played (wigan lad i think) and the ref said he saw it so no punishment as given. It was a clear red. Was the ref punished for seeing something and not giving it…no.

    It’s just a poorly structured disciplinary procedure from top to bottom.

  • 62 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Transfer @50 – I headed my email -with Get Well Message for Massadio Haidara -and then did a couple of sentences (eventually) in French.

  • 63 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    mister tuff

    I can’t do french so didn’t try haha. I dont trust google to translate it properly so i just asked the club to pass on my message.

    The card I sent has get well massadio on, has small get well soon inside with the french equivalent….looked on a few sites and comment sites too to get the right phrase.

    Sent it to st james park and signed from all of us here.

    well worth the £3.59

  • 64 studsy // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Alright lads. Ive just sent an email to the MP of Newcastle City Center -Chi Onwurah – asking for her assistance in light of this diabolical showing by the FA. Ill post the email in a sec, let me know what you guys think.

  • 65 Magforlife // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Maybe SAF was right and we are only a wee club in the North East.
    Thats how I feel right now. Can you image Manure gets treat like this. They would pull out of the league.
    Cheated out a game by a ref and lino not seeing a blatant over the top challenge. A flicked on hand ball that leads to a winning goal. A corner that may have run the clock down to prevent their corner.
    Then the challenge goes totally unpunished by the FA. JC gets charged we are now back in the relegation mix.
    And I listened to Wigan fans on talksport bleating that they are being picked on because they are a small club.
    I have never held any grudges against Wigan in the past but I hope justice is done and they are relegated and lose the semi final to boot.
    Never being so p****d off in a long time in supporting Newcastle and I go a long way back.

  • 66 Ben_BKK // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Good lad, Transfer, I’m sure that’ll help keep his hopes up. I know if it was me and I was receiving messages and cards from the fans I’d be really touched, especially having only joined a couple of months ago and only having made a few appearances.

  • 67 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Pushy/Ian et al

    So close, you almost went through an entire message being seemingly comprehensible and then you let yourself down.

    Just don’t understand what you gain from this multiple personality thing, that is unless you have multiple personality disorder.

  • 68 mot7 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Im all for eye for a eye the future will present a chance to haidara to to take revenge on that spineless twat and i hope he takes it with two feet and 12 studs .
    A 3 game ban is small price to pay .
    Im so angry i just want to go to wigan and smash the place up

  • 69 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:20 PM


    I just know when things aren’t going well a nice gesture, especially from an unexpected person/source, is always nice and boost. Lets you know people care and have taken time for you.

  • 70 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM

  • 71 brian kilclines pony tail // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    i’ve been left speechless by todays events

  • 72 Markaccus // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Transfer sage, what gets me is that, no matter what the ref/linesman saw/didnt see, the evidence of how bad the challenge was is right there, its clear it was dangerous. They are just scared, probably of whelan!

  • 73 nick_9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Moonwalked @ 16 – excellent work Sherlock Holmes. That highlights how much of a hypocrite the man is by saying what he wants when it suits him, stupid old fool!

    The more I talk about this the more incensed I get that we are coming away with a fine/ban for carver and an injured player whilst Wigan receive less. It’s unanimous amongst all fans that the lad deserved to be punished so how can the fa not see it? Carver being in trouble perhaps is acceptable if the fa was consistent with their decisions which they clearly aren’t. Carver had a mouth off next thing you know he has there coach pushing him, Boyce and stewards too. Carver just wanted to give the lad a tongue lashing and who can blame him!

  • 74 mot7 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Ashley please buy wigan stadium and turn it into a big sports direct .
    WHELAN can work on the tills .

  • 75 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:25 PM


    Thats clearly the way forward for this.

    It would be dealt with by this official/group and that way the FA’s argument that all clubs would ring up after every game is rubbished.

    If this person judged it a red it gets it regardless of what the ref saw. At the end of the day refs are only human, make mistakes, dont see things properly and can miss things all together.

    This way it is dealt with without any appeal so there should be no bias.

  • 76 studsy // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Heres the email ive just sent:

    Hi Ms Onwurah,

    First of all, thank you for finding time to read this e-mail, you must get a quantity daily and finding time to read mine is greatly appreciated.

    My name is Liam, im a 22 year old website designer from the Gosforth area. I have been a huge football fan all my life, from grass roots all the way to the professional leagues. My passion for football has pushed me to contact you today, the first time i have contacted an MP, but also my remembrance of your passion towards protecting football in our great city. My concern today is regarding Professional Football, which ultimately effects all tiers down to grass roots due to its huge media coverage.

    The spark to this e-mail is the statement released today by The FA regarding an injury to one of NUFC’s players, 19 year old Massadio Haidara. Im unsure if you are aware of the incident which happened on Sunday, involving Massadio and Wigan player Calum McManaman. Without getting too detailed on the event, it included the two players running head-on while trying to win the ball between them. Although hard to be proven 100%, mine and a huge majority of current and ex-professional player’s, manager’s, referee’s and coaches opinions all come to the same conclusion – a blatantly deliberate attempt by a football player to cause injury to another person on the field of play.

    The incident was missed during play by the match official, Referee Mark Halsey, due to a player blocking his view. This is understandable, however he has the right to take advice from what his assistant referees also see. Mark Halsey had an assistant only a few yards from the incident and TV coverage shows the assistant looking clearly at the incident as it happened.

    The assistants first instinct was that it was not a bad tackle, so did not communicate to the match official that a foul had taken place. Massadio was removed from the pitch by stretcher after receiving long medical treatment from medical professionals on the field. The offender, Calum, continued to play the rest of the game after showing no sympathy towards the players he injured and still to this point has made no attempt to contact or apologise or the incident. This is the second time in only a couple years that Calum has seriously injured a professional football player.

    After the match, Mark Halsey had the ability to talk with his assistants an also review footage of the match – which he did. After this, he approached NUFC Manager Alan Pardew and apologised for missing the incident and not acting on it. This shows that the match officials also believe that the incident was worse than what they thought they saw at first. Mark noted in his match report that he was unable to see the incident, so could not act, but one of his assistants did – however his instinctive feeling of it not being a foul was incorrect.

    Based on the report The FA reviewed the incident as the referee did not see it, however released a statement today stating that because the incident had been seen, although incorrectly, by at least one match official at some stage, then they refuse to take action on the incident based on a rule they created.(

    This is not the only incident that has occurred, many players have been seriously injured by what The FA call ‘Serious Foul Play’ – but could easily be named ‘Grievous Bodily Harm’ due to the intent to injure a persons body deliberately without that persons acceptance of that happening – and The FA refusing to take action. What is more confusing is that if a referee red cards a player, he has certainly seen the incident irrespective of his reasons for showing the red card, Thr FA will happily review and remove bans from players against their own rules.

    The fact that millions of people in the UK have seen this incident, including a percentage of children and teenagers(many of which idolise professional footballers and mimic them) and The FA’s response today which allows Calum to continue his normal team duties without any punishment for his deliberate and career threatening actions, sets not only a monumentally wrong message to the public – but also undermines one of their biggest roles as a governing body of sport – the safety of its sportsmen. Im sure you agree that this cannot continue – the allowing of their sportsmen to deliberately assault another without punishment.

    My thoughts are that firstly The FA should no longer be allowed to operate under the same stature as a private company. Considering they, and other sporting bodies, receive huge sums of cash from government funds – i believe that they should be accountable for in the same way as government departments and councils. This single action would see a very quick turnaround in The FA’s current stance of just sitting back and letting people get on with it. Furthermore, The FA currently have no reason to provide documents to the public, who partly fund them, as they are not ruled by the FOI Act. My attempts to receive information from The FA regarding the number of incidents professional referees reported as not seeing and they action which followed them, was replied with a brief letter stating that i have no right to know this information.

    Ultimately, my feeling is this: How many more assaults are The FA going to not only condone, but basically encourage, on our pitches?

    If you have gotten this far, i really do thank you again! I hope you can assist me in bringing this to light, as yet another teenager in hospital and spending 9 months receiving medical treatment while his attacker walks free – simply should not happen!

    Kind Regards,

  • 77 Charlietoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    If he had have received a red card do you think there is any way Wigan would have even contested it? Or if they did would they overturned the refs decision?? NO. That is one guy that can pretty much never set foot in Newcastle and will be booed wherever he ends up for the rest of his career when he faces the black and white.

  • 78 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:30 PM


    I suppose there hands are tied by rules that all clubs agreed to and signed up for, as well as all professional bodies in the game.

    But they say they can go over it with retrospective action if the incident is of a serious nature, RE Ben Thatcher. That was a horror tackle…but it my eyes this is as dangerous.

    What needs to be done for exceptional circumstances to kick in…if not this then what? rooney full on elbowed a player in an off the ball incident so not sure how that wasn’t looked at as exceptional circumstances either.

    It just amazes me, genuinely expected a ban to come through today.

  • 79 toonarmydownsouth // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    If a club can appeal when the FA charges a player, can we appeal there decision to take no action? Surely with the backing we seem to be receiving from other PL clubs
    Or are the FA out to simply satisfy there sugardaddy shareholders to keep them interested in there little toy know as the football league?

  • 80 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    There are too many amateurs at the FA. The professionals in the game
    saw him going over the top of the ball and that it was a dangerous reckless challenge. Mcmanaman looked totally disinterested whether Haidara was injured or not which suggested it was calculated It’s galling that he gets off scot free.

  • 81 stuart no9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    transfer- makes the semi – final at wembley a bit more tasty now . ive already got my ticket. my sons a physio at millwall and is pals with dan shittu. see what happens eh ?

  • 82 royrjmk // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:36 PM


    I very rarely post but this is an excellent email you have sent, I sincerely hope that you get a response

  • 83 mot7 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    If i went down to wigan training ground car park waited for mcmanaman bounced a ball in front of him then kicked the sh*t out of him.
    I would be ok as long as i touched the ball first and as long as a copper seen it and let me off if not then i could get done by cctv at a latter date

  • 84 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Just you stop. There is no multi name persona. It was manufactured by individuals. I am fed up making the same point and others have quit the blog because it is tedious and they just can’t be bothered.
    Good night.

  • 85 studsy // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Thanks Roy, good to know i have some support. Chi is very passionate about football in newcastle, so it seemed only right to ask her for help. I hope a reply comes soon, and a positive reply at that!

    Just thought that while everyone else is moaning about it, i should at least try and DO something about it!

  • 86 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    You conveniently choose to forget that Ian Toon and Carl are almost certainly medical students. I have not met either of them. Drop it before as you put it embarras yourself.

  • 87 Dagwoodz // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:45 PM


    Maybe I’m just haveing one of those moments, but what’s an MP?

    Being in the military, you say MP to me and I look for the flashing blue and red lights. (Military Police) Also from the states, so there might be a bit of cultural naivety involved as well.

  • 88 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Embarrass yourself

  • 89 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Been trying to get a “handle” on the FA’s decision not to seek retrospective
    punishment. Found a couple of articles about it -Fifa regulation is explained a bit. Bottom line is if incident is seen -tough nothing can be done about it. but I note :-
    “In Article 77 (specific jurisdiction), it lists some of these circumstances.
    They include sanctioning serious infringements that have escaped the match officials’ attention……. (I suspect this is the exceptional circumstances get out)
    Second article is BBC site when same topic with Blatter, Bernstein – bottom line is that Blatter said the FA are allowed to interpret the Regs as they see fit and can use retrospective punishments in really exceptional cases. There is a comment from Bernstein that if you start allowing exceptional cases -the floodgates will open. It was also stated the clubs were satisfied with the current situation.
    Link to First article:-

    I’ll post next link separately.

  • 90 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Why not write to the sports minister? The government are trying to clean up football.

  • 91 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    second BBC link;

  • 92 geordieracer1980 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Bit late, but well done Transfer Sage for sending Haidara a get well soon card. Great touch that is mate and i’ve got no doubt that will keep the kids spirits up while he’s knacked. I love the way that all us Newcastle fans have stuck together there. Everyone has their own views on the club and pardew and ashley and whatever else and they argue like siblings on here daily, but when the chips are down, everyone has pulled together and it just shows what great fans we all are.

    We are United.

  • 93 studsy // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Dagwoodz – MP does mean Military Police here in the UK too, but in this context its Member of Parliament – the US equivalent is Member Of Congress.

    Can certainly see why you started panicing though 😛

  • 94 voodoo85 // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Its funny how a linesman says he seen the tackle on Haidara and therefore nothing can be done. Yet the referee acted on Carver’s behaviour (therefore punishment already give) and yet they can do something.

    Gary Linekar posted a good comment on twitter earlier that whichever official did see it (and must not have acted upon it) should get a reprimand from the FA – ie, removed from top level duties for three weekends etc

  • 95 89Norcal // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Congrats to Mcmanaman, you’ve usurped Pepe as the #1 player I’d prefer to see suffer a career ending injury.

    Here’s hoping someone blows out your knee you talentless p***k.

    Not surprised at all with the FA, they did exactly what I predicted they would, useless t***s. Still stuck in the 70s with their rules and enforcement. Apparently video proof is enough for the courts but not those moronic, entitled idiots.

  • 96 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    geordie racer

    no prroblem…hope all are happy me signing it from us fans here

  • 97 studsy // Mar 19, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Pushy – i was considering it, but the average contact times can be weeks. I thought having a local MP who is passionate about football is certainly a good start, and im expecting a much swifter response. She is also Shadow Minister to the Cabinet Office, so has quite a strong position to work from above her local MP status too!

  • 98 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:01 PM


    “Almost certainly medical students”

    Well neither Ian, Carl or yourself have shown any aptitude in the field of medicine at all, certainly not enough for anyone to make a claim that they are certainly medical students any way.

    Also, who has left the blog due to the emotional turmoil caused by this “witch hunt”

  • 99 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Yes your probably right. It will take less time to be acted upon.

  • 100 kevymartins // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Uk cinema’s now showing the movie ”Gangster squad” based on the FA football association

    movie plot: They basically rip people off make stupid decisions all through the movie.

  • 101 Whistler // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Utterly disgusted to the pit of my stomache that the FA (Floundering Antiques) have hidden behind some disfunctional ruling.
    I always thought it was the referee that actually refereed a game of football not a linesman…the man in the middle is in charge and he makes the decisions does he not? So if Halsey didn’t see this assault on Haidara and was therefore unaware that there was a decision to make, how does FA intervention constitute re-refereeing the game!?

  • 102 royrjmk // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM


    I have sent an email to the FA and had put a comment in about the official who supposedly saw the incident similar to your comment

  • 103 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I realise your playing silly games. You really are clueless. I am not a medical student but in the leisure industry. I am probably around 8 years older than IT and 6 years older than Carl. I have built this up from things said and from viewing them as people of interest. You now the truth because I remember Carl helping you with your irascible moods. Stop playing games and just give me a wide berth.

  • 104 Visten // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    FA you are a fking joke. You bunch of sad useless cnuts. Greatest league in the world mmmm HOW ?goverened by you useless, spineless, gutless no brain wankers.

  • 105 Offkey // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Pushy – I dislike Ruddy but he has a point.

    Pushy Pardew // Dec 4, 2012 at 8:40 AM

    Ian Toon
    Hope you don’t feel as bad as me this morning. Your much heralded
    4-2-3-1 was seen and 4-4-2 at times. Shows need for good players to adjust. Thought Anita the pick along with Sylvian good to see more movement off the ball and closing down. Agree on Ba we need to keep him he takes responsibility and changes games. Cisse closed down their left side.
    It was not about systems or formations but movement and closing players down when we did not have the ball.

    *********the response********
    Pushy Pardew // Dec 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Pushy- Good morning. Did have a few but not as many as you by the sound of it. Played more like the envisaged side pre season. Good to see Anita and Marve blending together so well. We must keep Ba. Anita is just the player we saw at Ajax with added strength from a lot of hard gym work. I have to go. Have a good one.

    *******next response******

    Pushy Pardew // Dec 4, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    Ian Toon Good Morning . Guess I have missed you. My
    head is falling off . Think I’ll give the gym a miss today. Have to get a coffee.

  • 106 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM


    And you would know all this about them because you regard them as “persons of interest”.

    I’ve heard about being self-centred but you are really taking the biscuit.

  • 107 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    I remember the hangover. I don’t dislike Ruddy most of the time!

  • 108 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    I really don’t care what you think. I admire Ibiza who described this nonsense as ” a witch hunt” that you quoted earlier. I see Ibiza as the sort of person i could do business with someone i trust. Has it occurred to you that you might have got it horribly wrong particularly when you look back to your dealings with Carl. IT upset JFA because he told him something he is not wanting to admit to himself I guess. I am getting bored because it’s like trying to convince an atheist that there is a god. Just ignore me in future and I will likewise not engage with you. I am going.

  • 109 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM


    I find your ability to recall the reasons why certain people have an “agenda” against some people here quite odd.

    Given that I haven’t posted in around 3months I find it quite strange how easily you recall the reason I dislike Carl…I wonder why that is?

  • 110 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    TS @ 43:

    Sign away !

  • 111 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    I think there is room in the game with video technology like the NFL use. Each teams manager during a game could have 2 contested decisions against the refs judgement. When they call the contested decision the incident/goal is shown on a big screen and the ruling will be overturned there and then if the ref is proved wrong.

  • 112 Offkey // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Pushy – so when you were hungover you pretended to be Ian Toon for some reason? ….and your now annoyed that people question you about it?

    Didn’t Carl do the similar thing?

  • 113 Offkey // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    the = a

  • 114 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Can we all join in or is this a private vendetta ?

    sorry – should have asked Whelan that one…

  • 115 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 8:58 PM


    Rugby Union already do this and have a separate video official

    See post 70 for how citing commissioners work – without prejudicing match day officials at all

  • 116 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Maybe you haven’t been hungover. I am not annoyed I really don’t care. I enjoy reading on here and posting elsewhere.

  • 117 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Off key
    I don’t know Carl you would need to ask him.

  • 118 RobertLeeNo.7 // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    It works well in the NFL. If managers were limited to only 2 calls each the game wouldn’t suffer to much and referees might get less flack after a game.

  • 119 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    You were incredibly rude to me some months ago. I took an interest because it went a long way to explain your actions. Some posters are more interesting than others.

  • 120 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    I must go in a few minutes. Is there anything else?

  • 121 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:13 PM


    I’ve had no dealings with you, not even once. I think you are referring to Ian Toon.

    Rumbled 😉

  • 122 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Ask Ibiza his memory is better than yours. Or maybe your rude to so many people you just forget. Have a good evening. I am off to the gym.

  • 123 Offkey // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Pushy – No offence meant mate, I was just interested. Although, you have to agree, that this hangover story sounds like rubbish to anyone that has ever had a hangover. Anyway, good luck, I’m crawling back underneath my rock.

  • 124 studsy // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Lets get ready ready
    Lets get ready ready
    Lets get ready to RUMBLE!

  • 125 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:21 PM


    You’ve just set your own trap and walked right into it. Please don’t talk to me anymore as you have shown yourself up for what you are.

  • 126 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM


    Can I just say that your letter is well thought out and excellent covering all angles..

    I would say that you have just contributed the post of the month , if not the year.

  • 127 MacToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Offkey’s right on post 104, he’s showing a conversation supposedly between IT and Pushy but all coming from Pushy’s account?
    Anyway, a few have noticed some strange goings on here over the last few months atleast, it is obviously a forum open to misuse by some and it’s not always makems!

    Still gutted about footy atm, thanks FA.

  • 128 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    You may want to research articles/papers on the subject of Linguistic Fingerprining – a forensic technique of authorship attribution. There are many useful techniques in identifying the authors of writings -it does work.
    I wonder if there are any experts in this field in the area .MMmmmmm. If you only knew.

  • 129 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    its stupid really.

    its all about not undermining the officiating

    but if retrospective action was taken as the ref/assistant did not see properly, nobody is being undermined.

    if someone did see it and there was no punishment on the field then the official in question needs sacking

  • 130 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Anyone at the Wigan game ..If you witnessed the Attack then why not email Northumbria Police and report it ? They have to then Investigate it and Give an answer can then publish the Answer…They have to apply for an investigation to Lancashire cant loose anything If you where there and seen the incident then report it ..they have to and are duty bound to Investigate the Incident.

    You are Customers of the FA know ..? They Are taking a large percentage of your hard earned money under a false pretence. Sitting there smoking their fat Ba**rd ..(sorry could’nt help mesel) Cigars

    How’s it feel ?

  • 131 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Just double checked the archives to see if what Offkey posted was correct (not that I doubted you Offkey) and he is spot on.

    Check post 54 on the link there lads and you will see that both Ian Toon and Pushy are the same person.

  • 132 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Online @129 -Evening. – You are certainly correct that a third party could report an assault to the Police -who would be duty bound to investigate further. However, the stumbling block I assume would be getting a complaint from the “Injured Party” (Haidara). If he did not wish to make a complaint the investigation is dead and buried. There is sometimes an unease by sporting clubs getting the police involved -especially when those who should be “policing” these issues ie the FA are really abrogating their responsibilities.

  • 133 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    I got slated yesterday for threatening to Go to Wigan and sort MC manaman out ..tounge in cheek like many comments Iv read on here last 2 days .Was..taken the wrong way though, nuff said..keep taking the tablet’s !

    Let me say that if this had happened to a LIVERPOOL PLAYER ..that player would have all his house windows put out and maybe they would burn his car and then maybe his home ..At the least he would have had to leave the Area to a place of safety..the Liverpool fans threatened to burn down Gerrards house if he left for Chelsea ! That was well documented …

    iM not advocating any of the above …! I can Imagine that player Mc Manaman out with his mates drinking at the weekend having a good laugh with his cronies ..with no thought of Apologising ..While Hiadara is laying in a hospital bed with a possible career threatening Injury. .

    The worlds gone mad, the FA are already there.

  • 134 MacToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    MacToon // Dec 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Some strange posts by Pushy…….got the feeling this sycophant has more than one login name here!


    Seem’s I pointed it out too on the same thread lol
    Strange is my word for it 😉

  • 135 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Tuff the Lancashire police are already involved ! did you spot that policewoman getting in between Carver (my Hero) and Barrow.?

  • 136 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Evening Tuff//

  • 137 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Police on the pitch ! all inbreds down in Lancs man

  • 138 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    tHis has all brought back the time I was courting a big blond lass with massive thighs ..from Wigan ! not fat mind ..just tall and …well I wont go on…

  • 139 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 9:57 PM


    Eagle eyed haha

    Seems like the fella hasn’t got a leg to stand on, incontrovertible proof. Love to see how he wriggles out of this one? Probably by calling us both rude kangaroos in our kangaroo court.

    Pushy/Ian/Carl or whoever else you pathetically wish to refer yourself as. It seems the constant abuse and psycho-babble you chose to aim at me in an attempt to “mend my ways” only really served to incite me to really gun for you and out you as an idiot and I know a lot of people think I am smug and arrogant but I am really pleased that there is now no longer speculation about your multiple persona sadness but actual proof.

    You goon 🙂

  • 140 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    @ Offkey

    I reckon you should change your name to Columbo

    (cigar in hand) “just one more thing”


  • 141 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM


    I doubt the police would do anything, might dismiss it quickly but you never know, they might speak to the player which could disrupt him and make his life awkward for a weak or so.

    Might also get him more paper time which would expose the lad for the thug he is.

  • 142 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Online -yes noticed the top of her hat amongst the giants. I suspect that as far as the cops are concerned with reference to the half time discussion (melee) -they will not be pursuing any action -as the matter was resolved. The cops would suggest their presence was to prevent a Breach of the Peace -which was prevented -therefore no further police action required.
    I think the Toon should challenge this decision (of the FA) in the courts -but clubs are frightened of the FA. so I expect they will not do anything specifically. I think the FA do not want to (using their expression) open the floodgates for investigating these types of incidents -when really they should be making a point in these types of cases that violent actions will not be tolerated.

  • 143 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    Ian Toon/Pushy/Funky Chicken
    Ian you need to return to the blog instead of saying you have been “driven off” it. For Gods sake -you are a mature man -not a frightened schoolchild. Really you should be able to put up with the “ruff and tumble” of a football blog – it’s a blog for Gods sake – not a real life face to face confrontational situation.
    We see plenty of outlandish/outrageous comments from some of the more exotic posters -sometimes they are retracted sometimes not -so what, life still goes on.
    There was absolutely nothing wrong with your posts -I read them regularly with interest.
    I offered the olive branch previously but was rebuked.
    For Gods sake return to the blog – you’re a true Toon fan -and don’t continue your previous mularkey and shenanigans using aliases – there’s really no point. All this rubbish about blog allegiances, no mates, kangaroo courts etc etc is idiocy. Get back to posting and stop your petulance please. You know it makes sense.

  • 144 true toon // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    I tell you guys honestly , i will love it if Wigan get relegated this season , absolutely love it !

  • 145 nufc786 // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    and it just gets better……..

  • 146 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM


    I wish I had paid good money and been at the game and witnessed it ..It was an attack and any Copper looking at it would have to agree ..saying all that It would have to be an impartial decision and looked at by an outside force ..Say Yorkshire Constabulary hahahah !!! War of the roses all over again !…

    If Id’ been there and witnessed it I would have reported it out of Either Devilment or fair play ..And I think fair play would win the day.

  • 147 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    nufc -just checked out your link -I don’t bloody believe it -possibly another hamstring?

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Mister Tuff

    To flip perspective a little, he did bring this entirely on himself. The abuse and borderline psychiatric diagnosis he used to aim at me would be very hard to forget. I don’t hold a grudge but Ian Toon was less than courteous to me on a personal level, and I know that there are others who feel aggrieved by his conduct here.

    If he held his hands up then I personally would be willing to give him a second chance but these posters who have been driven off? Some left due to the absurdity that descended upon this blog, a lot of which has been perpetuated by his very own insanity/immaturity.

    Perhaps he suffers from multiple personality disorder, or maybe it is simply poor self esteem or an incredibly fragile ego that needs constant positive reinforcement. I don’t know but bridges need to be mended, as this blog may be words on a screen but his credibility has taken a massive knock but when he was talking football he did make a lot of valid points.

  • 149 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Mister Tuff , you know your stuff Man !

  • 150 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM


    We have Pushy with more than one account and a hangover posting comments to his other self ?

    He/they isn’t/aren’t the weirdest poster on here though. IMO that dubious honour goes to a few lads – including Catchy who disappears when we win and only appears when we lose.

    Maybe blogs like this only appeal to saddos – present company excepted 🙂

  • 151 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Sorry about the hippy parlance ..bin watching directors new cut of Woodstock !

  • 152 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Your wrong yet again with your conspiracy
    theory. I recall the occasion and I remember
    Ibiza pointing out that I was in a right state
    sending messages to myself. Bizarre I know
    but it’s the best I can do. If you think
    you have be banged to rights then your
    wrong but I can’t be bothered to continue
    with the effort involved when your hell
    bent into your Sherlock Holmes role.
    I stand by my sole persona. Do your
    worst because I am posting on football
    and leaving you and others to your
    own devices.

  • 153 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    online guy

    The only problem with a criminal conviction is you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt the offence, which is 95-99% certain that there was intent to hurt (with it being a game where accidental physical contact is allowed as oppose to in the street where no physical contact is allowed). So it would be hard to get a criminal conviction.

    However in a civil court you just need to be over 50% sure to win the case. Victor anichebe sued nolan for a tackle what left him injured and he claimed compensation. So haidara could possibly do the same as that and sue the player for damages and loss of earnings.

  • 154 nufc786 // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    Mister Tuff

    this is a very unlucky season like

  • 155 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Yo yo

    The guys who can’t pick out the weirdos usually are the weirdos themselves 😛

    The internet is a marvelous tool when used properly, but can be ridiculous when misused. This blog really has it all doesn’t it? haha

  • 156 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    YO YO , I think its hilarious posting comments to one’s self …Hilarious ..Pythonesque on here I’m splitting my Sides Man..!

    Im just thinking about trying it ..Do you think I might end up arguing with myself offering to Meet myself in the toon and giving myself a good Kicking !!

  • 157 martoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    The only crumb of comfort is our owner has his faults but at least nowhere near as bad as the Blackburn owners. The last 2 managers have lasted 57 & 67 days respectively

  • 158 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM


    You do know that even if you stick to your story more and more people will refuse to give you any credibility. No matter how hungover a person may be they do not send messages to themselves.

    This excuse doesn’t wash, especially when you’ve been suspected of multiple personas, surely even you can see that as suspicious?

  • 159 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM


    The only legal avenue with any chance of success would be the civil court for exactly the reasons you give.
    The balance of probabilities is mush less a burden of proof than beyond reasonable doubt.

    I wonder why Keane never got sued

  • 160 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM


    the best thing is they appoint a worse manager every time.

  • 161 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Please don’t compare and contrast me with Catchy. That’s
    even worse than having to tolerate the claims of Ruddy.
    I did post to myself after a great night for the toon.

  • 162 rexthemascot1 // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Does anyone know if the FA have a written definition for what meets the threshold for “exceptional circumstances”? Surely they should as otherwise this will leave them open to interpretation and legal challenge. However, just to give you an idea as to how they work the following might help: “Brighton midfielder Ashley Barnes has been handed a further three-match ban by the FA, taking his suspension up to a total of seven games for a trip on a referee. The 23-year-old was handed an automatic four-match ban for the offence during the 1-0 defeat to Bolton, his second dismissal of the campaign. However, the FA felt that Barnes’ behaviour towards match official Nigel Miller ‘constituted an offence whereby the standard punishment that would otherwise apply was clearly insufficient’. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE FA’S STATEMENT ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO BAN – THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO BAN!

  • 163 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Got to dash back soon picking the Daughter up from Central iM in a silver golf if anyone wants to come and Chin me ..Travelling from Humshaugh

  • 164 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM


    You’d only need to give your other self a good kicking if Online 2 was a mackem

  • 165 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM


    maybe as there wasn’t as much of a sueing culture at the time? that’s all i can think of.

  • 166 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM


    Well… I could have compared you to Kets9 🙁 so think yerself lucky

  • 167 martoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Transfer Sage @159 That’s true – in that case their next manager will be Souness or maybe even Dogleash 🙂

  • 168 yo-yo // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Have to say I’ve really enjoyed the unfolding of the strange case of Pushy and Pushy but am underwhelmed by Dr. Ruddy’s diagnosis as I always prefer cockup to conspiracy theories.
    BUT… It has all made for a slightly off the wall but amusing evening’s entertainment – hope all you guys can forgive and forget and remember who our common enemy really is…mentioning no names

  • 169 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Online @148 -without giving too much away online, lets just say it’s within my area of expertise.

  • 170 MacToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    yo-yo, isn’t it a case of you don’t have to be mad to be here but it helps 😉
    Catchy has a point but makes it far too often, even kets gets somethings right (law of averages!). Topics are sometimes talked to death here but it’s still my favourite place to catch up on NUFC news.

  • 171 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    The truth will out. You start with the evidence and come
    to a verdict not the other way around. Your not out to nail me though are you? You want to nail IT the Mensa member who
    sticks in your craw! Go on admit it. You have that as the sole
    objective. Credibility I only want to chat about football. I am an ordinary fan not overly intelligent but hard working. I don’t give
    a stuff about your ideas of credibility. I am owt.

  • 172 MacToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Come on, admit it’s some college project 😉 mensa ha ha ha

  • 173 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM


    I’m absolutely gobsmacked! Haha Not even worth biting any more because I will simply let you continue making an ass of yourself!

  • 174 MacToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Gonna have to hit the hay as I have to perform surgery in the mornin’, a difficult op, will probably take best part of 6 hours!

  • 175 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    mensa is only for those that are insecure in their intellect that feel they have something to prove

  • 176 nufc786 // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    the man himself

  • 177 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Ruddy @147
    I really cannot argue with your comments. Self inflicted wounds come to mind. Appears that after a bit of sterling work by Detective Columbo the truth of these daft multiple postings has been revealed. I agree that if the clear and apparent “guilt” was admitted we should be able to resume sensible debating. We are connected because our our support for the Toon. I hope that would be the case and we can all move on and leave this sorry episode behind and therefore not get diverted from footballing/Toon subjects.
    Subsequently added.
    I was going to add a sentence about being clipped around the ear by my granny for trying to be too cocky clever -with the retort there’s always someone cleverer than you. But thought I would leave it out. Now seeing there are some denials and references to Mensa I’ve included it. Using perceived intelligence should not be a tool by which to attack others. Intelligence and common sense are two entirely different things.
    Pushy -how do you know Ian Toon is a member of Mensa?
    Ian for Christs sake -to coin a phrase “you’re captured” you need to show the white flag of surrender.

  • 178 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Mister Tuff

    As I mentioned earlier, an admission of culpability, maybe even a plea of temporary insanity coupled with an apology for the way he has acted would probably mean I’d just let bygones be bygones and just get back to the fundamentals of why we are here; to support the Toon.

    It would appear that we are a good way off from that outcome unfortunately. References to Mensa to his alter ego is almost indicative of a sociopathicly inflated ego. I’m actually concerned about his mental health now.

  • 179 Offkey // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    To Offkey@104

    Its great to have a guy like you on the blog, a medical student that is a member of mensa. You are one of the few people I trust on this site, more people should listen to a swell guy like you. Spose I’ll catch you when your next on. xx

    ******sorry guys, I ate some cheese had a catnap and I’m talking to myself……you all know how it is ****

  • 180 Shot Bru // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Does anyone know if McManaman has apologised to Haidara for the tackle?

    the FA in making this ludicrous decisiion are neglecting their responsibilities for Fair Play…they like everyone else have clearly seen the tackle on TV… they obviously condone what has happened!

  • 181 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Ruddy @177 – I share your concerns.

  • 182 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Shot bru

    No official statement but the Wigan chairman, Dave whelan, said he has nothing to apologise for but Martinez said if hurt the club and player will apologise.

    So mixed messages from the club.

  • 183 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Good article from the Mirror last year about how the FA has failed in respect of retrospective punishments. Apparently Lique 1 in France and the MLS allow it. Good overview -FA ducking their responsibilities -yet again. Link;

  • 184 firebug666 // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    I would encourage all NUFC supporters to follow Studsy’s example and email all local MPs and Downing street, call on all other PL clubs to follow suite and put pressure on the government to take the FA to task over their lazy idle good for nothing positions and get them to start acting for the good of the game and protection of the players. Complaining on the blog is one thing but if we take no action ourselves then nothing will ever change. If McManaman plays against us next season we can set Tiote on him.

  • 185 santonthenewmaldini // Mar 19, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Really hope Haidara gets well soon but probably wont see him till next season

    Just got to hope that this incident does not derail our season we really need to get any kind of result against Man City and beat Fulham at home cause our injury list just seems to keep getting bigger and I am worried we could get dragged back into it as our last couple of games we might struggle to beat Liverpool, Arsenal and dare I say it Sunderland with a weakened team

    With a fully fit squad I think we could win all of our remaining games but Simpson will probably come back in and If anything happens to Mbiwa or Taylor well Williamson will need to come back in as well !!!

  • 186 beddersmag // Mar 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Why doesnt the 4th official (or a 5th offical) sit at the dugout with a tv screen. They could act as a lineselman would and draw the refs attention via radio to any issues for almost immediate punishment. Possibly giving them a minute or two to alert the ref. Should they be unable to determine foul play within that time the opportunity passes. Thereby reducing the need for most retrospective action and allowing the game to flow while decisions are reviewed.

  • 187 Tinman // Mar 20, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Oioi. Im drunk who wants to argue.

  • 188 manxpie // Mar 20, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    jesus i thought there might have been an update of a revolution against the FA but no just another argument with ruddy and pushy and whoever else he wants to call himself just ignore him ruddy ffs its very very borin now its gone on for months lol
    onto the subject i was just wondering who the FA are supposed to protect!?
    because with this 1 action all they have shown to protect is mctwaterman!
    because imo the linesman will obviously get grief (and rightly so) for saying that he seen it but not takin action for an horrendous challenge!
    and the person right at the bottom of the FA’s priorities of protecting is our new very young and talented LB hiadara! WHAT A FCKIN JOKE AND SHAMBLES WE HAVE GOT OF A FCKIN GOVERNING BODY!!
    in a horrible way i hope mctwaterman makes another horrendous challenge and truly hurts someone and unfortunatly i can see it happening just so the football world and media can look back to this day and say i fckin told you so!
    this boy has got away scott free and pretty much praised by wigans owner and manager and has learnt absolutly nothing!!
    he will do it again and i hope the FA will be proud of themselves when he does!!

  • 189 manxpie // Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    and another thing the FA are always bleating on about footballers,managers,coach’s and fans setting good examples to people!!
    what kind of example is this setting??
    you can go and snap someone in 2 and get away with it there all a bunch of hipocrytical numpties!!!!

  • 190 ONLINE GUY // Mar 20, 2013 at 2:19 AM


    you been drinking that sheep dip again ? g’night mate.

  • 191 Toon-Prodigy // Mar 20, 2013 at 2:28 AM

    Well, this whole episode is just ridiculous with the FA.

    Im proud of NUFC for telling them outright that it’s just not good enough. Sadly, it’s all we can do. Unless we go through the courts in regards to Wigan and damages.

    Lets just hope our player is ok and quickly recovers for his benefit & ours. He has did really well since he came to us in January.

    How the FA get away with it all time after time is baffling, this was shocking with everyone involved. Ref, other officials, coaching staff losing their rags, FA with their disney land rules ducking out of responsibilities. It’s a disgrace that this is how top level football is ran in this country and the blame lies solely with the FA and their rules. The main culprit has got away scott-free for very dangerous play while coaching staff, referee’s take the fall. I hope for his sake and his career he has learned his lesson in this. He will be watched like a hawk from now on.

    Lets put this to bed now eh?

    Well done Steven Taylor, and lets get Cabaye 100% ready for Man City.

  • 192 raj of hailsley // Mar 20, 2013 at 3:21 AM

    Oh deary me one thousand stale bahjis, Pushy Pardew is finally being caught with his finger in the cookies jar, he really is having more faces than our heavenly Ganesh, it is being such a pity that JfA is to busy with his endless charity work to being a most honourable witness in this mischief. Goodness gracious.

  • 193 Toon-Prodigy // Mar 20, 2013 at 3:52 AM

    Seems we may have a problem with Santon. He has pulled up in training with the Italian under 21s.

    Hopefully they will send him back here for treatment.

    Dear me, you couldn’t write this script since Sunday could you?

  • 194 89Norcal // Mar 20, 2013 at 5:35 AM

    could you imagine if we had signed any less than 5 players in January? We would really be in it deep.

    I’m fully confident of our PL survival, but these injuries and a poor result vs Wigan will mean a finish outside the top 10, possibly 13th or lower.

  • 195 Toon-Prodigy // Mar 20, 2013 at 5:59 AM


    It is a godsend we actually signed these players your right!

    We must be cursed. The season so far, injuries, decisions, results. The timing of everything so far? Its been ridiculous. When does it all end? Ups and downs constantly since last August!!

    This season has been absolutely unreal.

    We need these points in the bag to stay up then just write this whole season off. Knowing NUFC we will lift the Europa cup! Ha ha! I don’t know how much more I can take for 1 season. Dear me!

  • 196 spitfire_ // Mar 20, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    Did you notice that when McM was subbed the whole stadium singing his name… like he is some kind of hero or somethin… The whole club is rotten and I want them go down more than Villa.

  • 197 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 20, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Your’e right its been a hard season watching the toon. not for those with a nervous disposition –
    Only won by more than 1 goal – twice
    4 times lost by more than 1 goal
    AND a lot of the goals have come in the last 5 minutes – For and Against – Edge of the seat stuff

    Would love a to be leading by 2 or 3 goals with 10 minutes to go – be able to relax

    Still joint top of the injury table with 8 players out

  • 198 El Sleeve // Mar 20, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    “…. to avoid the re-refereeing of incidents, which has been detrimental in other sports”

    You tell me how video replays in cricket, rugby and tennis have made their games worse? they haven’t! The video helps the ref, not hinders him, makes us appreciate the tough nature of his job. the 4th official has a tv, be in the ref’s ear like in rugby.

    the more i read and listen to that FA mouthpiece spouting off, the more i lose hope for football

  • 199 Roger // Mar 20, 2013 at 7:48 AM

    Let`s give them an answer in Manchester.
    For Haidara we blow City to the moon.
    This is my answer to FA.
    For Newcastle United
    Howay the lads

  • 200 El Sleeve // Mar 20, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    slagging off other sports for supposedly undermining their officials when there is no evidence of this at all, unbelievable.

    just read also the ref said he wouldve sent mcm off if he saw it. rescind a red card? sure! hand one out? no, dangerous precedent.

    the FA needs turning back into a public institution that should be society’s way of keeping the private beast of the Premier League in check

  • 201 Grafton83 // Mar 20, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Repost (added it to wrong thread, opps)

    I can’t believe what the FA have done, I was so angry I actually found it really ahrd to get to sleep myself last night, all I could think about was how any of us could actually respond in a meaningful way against the FA.

    I applaud those people on the blog that have taken the time to write to them. At least someone will have to waste time reading those letters even if they don’t respond. Perhaps you should keep sending the same letter until you do get a respone like in that film the Shawshank Redepmtion.

    What else can you do then, well the obvious answer to me is to boycott Engalnd matches and merchandise for the foreseeable future. I’ve bought many an England shirt over the years as I’m sure have a great number of Geordies. That can stop straight away as I put my club way above any loyalty I have for the national team.

    What else can be done, any ideas?

  • 202 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    Gets worse
    latest news from italy
    Santon pulled up in training and being assessed – could be sent home

  • 203 Tsunki // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    FA = Full Autonomy. A guaranteed recipe for dubious practices, casual institutional corruption and arrogance. There will be no satisfactory outcome except possibly in the courts.

    Well done on the Pushy Personality expose btw! I did have a swipe and he insisted he wasn’t scizo but there we are, nowt so queer as folk ha ha. 🙂

  • 204 NUFCarter // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    I bet mcmanaman is laughing his brainless head off. He’ll be thinking hmmm who shall be next?

  • 205 bills-son // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Apparently Santon has a thigh problem – just when we think we are back on track with the squad we could be three full backs down + Krul, Colo, Cabaye and HBA, thats seven first team players potentially unavailable for City.

    This season is becoming a joke for injuries.

  • 206 Tsunki // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    For all the slagging our medical staff get Santon has been a regular for us and gets injured training for Italy? 😐

    Funny thing needed to buy a red shirt for playing footy in (black/white vs. Red is our theme) and I was going to buy an Engerland shirt. Club Brugges? PSG 2nd?

  • 207 NUFCarter // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    So that could be our fourth full back injured?

  • 208 NUFCarter // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    Accrington Stanley?

  • 209 Tsunki // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    The relegation drama may not be over yet then?

  • 210 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    Yeah that’s correct if you count Ryan Taylor.

    The United full-back pulled up in training during Tuesday’s session, due to pain in his left thigh.

    Santon will undergo tests today (Wednesday) and may be on his way back to Newcastle for treatment if the news isn’t good.

    The footballing Gods don’t seem to like the TOON at the moment – trying every way to get us relegated

  • 211 Transfer Sage // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:18 AM

    I think video refereeing has worked very well cricket, rugby and tennis.

    The difference is two fold though.

    1. It is only used when there is a stoppage in play…end of a rally in tennis, after the ball is bowled in cricket and when a try is suspected in rugby. There is not this natural stoppage in football (only if foul is given is game stopped, not if the ref misses it) so if missed the game would have to be artificially stopped.

    2. In cricket and tennis it’s to use hawkeye, 99%+ accurate so can’t argue with that, or in cricket to see if batsmen has crossed the line for run out so a yes or no call. Same as a try in rugby, is the ball over the line, simple yes or no call.

    In football if you stopped it for fouls, we could easily give the foul at the weekend as a red, clear red against wigan. But in some circumstances, fans, players, pundits etc still cannot agree so a replay isn’t black or white, its more open to interpretation.

  • 212 martoon // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    Martoon – Have you not the wit to think of an original name without having to steal mine and capitalise it?

  • 213 NUFCarter // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Yeah I meant raylor. I really want to see before the end of the season we’ve been missing his fast paced crosses and corners. Would cabaye still take free kicks?

  • 214 bills-son // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    This FA rule that as long as a ‘coming together’ is seen a decision can’t be retrospective is one of the most stupid rules imaginable.

    How come FIFA are bringing in goal line technology? The officials will see a ‘coming together’ of the ball and the ground but if they aren’t sure whether it has crossed the line they will be able to retrospectively make a decision. Yet, the same thinking isn’t applied in the case of a horrendous foul which isn’t seen in the ‘coming together’ ????

    As Llambias has said, the FA’s interpretation of FIFA’s rule is not fit for purpose and the only purpose it actually serves is to make the FA a laughing stock to any sensible person, football fan or not.

  • 215 NUFCarter // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    To be honest if santon turns out to be injured I would recall Paul dummet from st mirren and risk him at LB. but I think either jonas or perch will play one of the full back roles and Simpson the other. Or perhaps mbiwa will go LB and we will see the return of Williamson st CB. It could get worse from now.

  • 216 Transfer Sage // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:34 AM


    It’s a laughable rule really.

    If they can overturn a red where the ref made a mistake in the game why can’t they give a red where the ref made a mistake.

    Nobody is calling for every foul to be reviewed and yellow’s given but for fouls that should be a straight red there is no harm in reviewing it.

    The FA are just hiding behind a pethetic rule. They have an exemption for exceptional circumstances which is a get out for them if there is too much media pressure or if a big team complains but they won’t use it for smaller teams.

  • 217 Wendall // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    I am a longtime reader, but seldom post.

    Transfer. I was about the make the same point. If the FA is able to rescind a red card (which is in actual fact re-refereeing), why can they not have retrospective punishment for a decision that was wrongly made by the official. Bunch of spineless hypocrites!!!

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