Well I predicted this would happen, and the FA have decided to take no action against Wigan player McManaman, after his terrible horror tackle on Massadio Haidara left the lad in a heap, clutching his badly damaged knee.
FA take no action on this tackle – ridiculous
The door was open for the FA t take some action, because referee Mark Halsey had said he didn’t see the incident, because his view was blocked.
But the FA have just confirmed that the incident was seen by at least one of the match officials – even though referee Mark Halsey didn’t see it – and that means they can take no action.
Phew – that was a close one.
And the official who saw the tackle thought it was perfectly fair?
This is the statement issued by the FA:
“The FA can confirm that no action can be taken against Wigan Athletic’s Callum McManaman retrospectively following his side’s game against Newcastle United on Sunday 17 March 2013.
“Following consultation with the game’s stakeholders [the Premier League, the Football League, the Professional Footballers' Association, the League Managers' Association, Professional Game Match Officials Limited and the National Game] in the summer, it was agreed that retrospective action should only be taken in respect of incidents which have not been seen by the match officials.
“Where one of the officials has seen a coming together of players, no retrospective action should be taken, regardless of whether he or she witnessed the full or particular nature of the challenge. This is to avoid the re-refereeing of incidents.
“In the case of McManaman, it has been confirmed that at least one of the match officials saw the coming together, though not the full extent of the challenge. In these circumstances retrospective action cannot be taken. The principal objective behind the not seen policy is to address off the ball incidents where match officials are unlikely to be in a position to witness misconduct.”
That’s just a load of tripe.
And that’s what the FA do all the time – wiggle out of their responsibilities - and that’s why you may have noticed I’ve never been a big fan of the FA – they never show any courage when it’s needed – they simply will not make the tough decisions.
Any normal body would look at the video, and see it was one of the worst tackles seen on a football field, and it seems to have badly injured the Newcastle player – but once again they opted out of their responsibilities.
Here’s what I said in one of the articles this morning:
It’s not clear whether the FA will do anything about the tackle, and certainly they haven’t done much in the past with similar types of tackles, and apparently at least one of the officials at the game saw the tackle – how come they didn’t all see it?
If we were to take a guess we’d say the FA will come out and say there is nothing they can do, and they are not going to referee the games and undermine match officials.
If that happens it will only make things a lot worse, and it’s not about undermining officials – it’s about putting things right that were rather amazingly missed during the match.
Some readers will say it’s nice to get something right now and again. 
We’ve also noticed that no statement has yet been made on Haidara by Newcastle, and we’re even hoping he hasn’t damaged his knee ligaments - and that would be excellent news for the youngster and for Newcastle - here’s hoping they have delayed the good news until the FA released their decision.
Newcastle may even come out with their own statement on this ridiculous stance taken by the FA.
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1 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM
I pray that this leads to a change in the laws of the FA, or just the dissolution of the FA (We can dream
) . This is a absolute farce
2 nufc786 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM
i cant put in to words what i am feeling right now
i just wish haidara a speedy recovery
3 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Cheers Charlie
4 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:08 PM
What are they saying on talksport guys? Cant listen atm.
5 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Catchy HI ! that was a joke on previous page ..would be good to see each other though ..Cant see your profile mate ..not on linkedin ..
6 spitfire_ // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Who speak right now on TalkSport ?
7 AndyNUFC // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM
AndyNUFC // Mar 18, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Whelan should know better – his career was ended by injury.
I would be ashamed if one of our players done that, there is no defence.
You can just tell the video replay panel will ask the ref: “didn’t see it”, then the linesman “erm, I saw it” – why didn’t you do anything “I wasn’t sure it was that bad” – right no punishment.
Amazed. Said it, didn’t believe it. Still cannot believe it.
8 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM
Just been talking about how McManaman cant be told he is selected for XI until morning of a game because he gets so wound up. Saying how terrible it is Martinez, Whelan and Wigan in general are behaving disgustingly for defending him
9 kevymartins // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Well done talksport getting stuck into the fa and rightly so
10 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Andy…. Whelan is a grade A hypocrite read this from a sky blog post.
Taken from the match report for the Manchester City v Wigan Athletic U21 league game on March 1st, 2011: John Guidetti scored a late winner as City’s Elite Development Squad returned to winning ways against Wigan. However, the gloss was taken off the victory when former Barcelona youngster Gai Assulin was stretchered off in the 90th-minute following a reckless tackle by Latics’ Callum McManaman which led to his second yellow and resulting red card. As yet, there is no update on Assulin, who left the pitch in a leg brace, or the extent of his injury. Mr Whelan today: ¿When I broke my leg in the (1960 FA) cup final it was exactly the same type of tackle. We both went for the ball. It brought back memories. It ruined my career. “I am not going to criticise Norman Deeley – these things happen in football. He came over the ball, but he didn’t do it with the aim of breaking my leg.” That’ll be the same Dave Whelan who told the Lancashire Telegraph in May 2010 that: “Norman Deeley came right over the ball. Today he would have been sent off and banned for a long time. He came six inches over the ball, he came for me not the ball.”
11 ajcrawfs // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM
what so basically this guy mcmanaman is a psycho?
12 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Rainrix
Goughie and Durham on Talk Sport are hammering the FA whelan Martinez and Whelan – good listen.
They reckon rules need changing
13 funguswatty // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM
FA IS A JOKE ANY ONE OF OUR PLAYERS HAD DONE THE SAME WOULD HAVE BEEN A BAN they did same thing to us with HBA not got bottle to over rule their own officials need to scrap the whole fa and start again with x players who have stuffed in the same way
14 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:14 PM
You can’t have consistency and common sense when it comes to laws!
The fact is that the FA have correctly applied the rules to the incident. The fact is also that the rules suck mackem balls.
The problem is where to draw the line for retrospective action…I’d rather see a video ref able to draw the on-pitch ref’s attention to an incident, and advise on action to be taken. This could even be done for incidents like the second Wigan goal at the weekend.
But perhaps the line could be that matches are reviewed afterwards and any challenge deserving of a straight red becomes an automatic retrospective red card and the appropriate ban.
Seems simple enough…let’s hope the clubs get behind a change to the rules.
On another point though…we see challenges like this all of the time, Haidara was just unlucky because he had his foot grounded, so he suffered a serious injury. The challenge wasn’t worse than others we’ve seen because Haidara got injured, he was just unlucky.
15 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM
tinman… He gets wound up if he doesn’t get selected? Wow didnt need confirming really but what a Tw@t
16 kevymartins // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM
@ajc they said martinez has to tell calum he is in the team the day of the match or he gets can’t remember what they said
17 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM
What will young french players and Overseas players think when the FA in this country affords no protection whatsoever to them when out on the pitch if some English thug of a player can go out and maim them with no punishment after doing so ? they wont come now ..will they ? This has gone world wide and the FA are A laughing stock. Worldwide.. Listen to talk sport now they are as upset as us.
This is a bad day for football and English Football..
18 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM
ajcrwafs, I dont know any players of his age who would get that wound up about being selected he has to be told the morning of a game. Will be interesting to see if Callum makes any comments himself.
19 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:17 PM
Charlie… Cool i agree rules need changing. A loopholes gotten them out of what everyone can see is suspension material. Hopefully this’ll pave the way for it.
20 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM
No Rainrix, he gets wound up if he is starting a game, its probably to do with nerves mainly, but either way sounds like he is a loose cannon
21 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM
The Toon should challenge this decision in court – but they won’t -just as any other club won’t because they are frightened of the future consequences from the FA. No wonder black players question the FA’s commitment on racism. The FA make all the right noises -but are useless wimps/have vested interest to ensure they take the path of least resistance. The FA are just as old fashioned/out of step as FIFA completely incompetent. Disgraceful these out of touch fools run our national game.
22 kevymartins // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Here’s an idea buy calum from wigan and ruin his career just let him rott away don’t even let him train #justice
23 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Surely the official who did see it has to be punished? Fired? Gross negligence.
24 wynsleap // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM
These fossils and dinosaurs of the FA (good initials as that is what they do) have now proved that they have absolutely no interest at all in improving our national game.
There should now be widespread calls from players, managers, media and clubs for their dismissal and the club should now take legal action against McManaman, Wigan and unprecedently the FA themselves.
It’s time somebody made a stand against these wastes of space.
25 ajcrawfs // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM
apparently John Carver gets a three match ban as well
26 outsidethebox // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM
was considering joining dw gym on royal quays …just changed mind ..for him to make statement before fa suggests he knew what was going on at fa ..stinks
27 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Ah ok tinman. Still sounds like loose cannon material like you say.
28 Ben3arfa // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM
I really wish Mark Halsey considers quitting life along with his refereeing career .
Pathetic to see the FA join the wave and go against us in a clear-cut case like this .
where is the justice? Morons
29 geordiemark // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM
well that is typical of the fa isnt it, now if i was the owner of the club id be getting my solicitors ready to sue wigan and the player take it to the high court or possibly take it to european court that way fifa and uefa will see it damn disgrace hang your head in shame fa
30 Jackel001 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM
In a way I hope Wigan don’t go down, so that next year when they and their unclassy fans come up here we can show our own appreciation.
Oh and our FA is a fcking joke!
31 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Wigan fan came on and tried to defend the challenge. Is getting destroyed by all the pundits!
32 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Ben3arfa – stupid reactions like that are what gives football fans a bad name. Go crawl back under your hole.
33 ash1001 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM
I have just sent the following E Mail to the FA, anyone is welcome to copy it and use………
Dear Sir/Madam
As a football fan of over 60 standing, I must express my utter disgust ts the way the FA have handled the tackle made my Callum MacManaman on Massadio Haidara during Sundays game between Wigan and Newcastle. The FA are there to govern and set and example as to what happens in the game of football in England, and on this occasion they seem to have forgot that they have a duty not only to the players involved but also to the fans you support there various teams.
It does not matter whether an official saw or did not see the incident and in this case the referee has indicated that he did not, but it appears from press reports that the assistant referee did see contact, but on that point if it was contact, as it was with studs showing and the contact been on the knee (foot off the ground) then why did he not see fit to tell the referee as that constitutes a foul. If that was not what he saw then surely he cannot be used as a witness to the incident.
I would also remind the FA that they took retrospective action against Ben Thatcher some years ago by giving him an 8 match ban even although the incident in which he was involved had been witnessed by the referee who issue an yellow card to the player.
I am sorry to say both the players who turn out each week for there various teams and the supporters who follow then, have been very badly let down by the FA.
In conclusion in this matter i have toned down my actual words used in this letter out of respect for any on the innocent parties that may read it, but am sure they will understand what I actually did want to say.
Regards
34 Rainrix // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM
Ben thatcher elbowed pedro mendes in 2006 and then received a yellow. Then later the FA reviewed and banned him. This we cant take Retrospective action is BS they have in the past
35 last minute window lies // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM
lets see how smug Dave Whelan is when Wigan get relegated and the lose out on 70 million over next two seasons, would be slight compensation !!!
36 Martoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM
I am going to torch the FA’s headquarters
37 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM
What an example to set for the Premier League. You can make career ending challenges like that and you wont even be punished let alone give away a foul. JOKE
38 Fat_Robbo // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM
The club should seriously look into suing the player directly. I hope there is a realistic possibility of success with legal action as the FA have done sweet FA
39 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM
The official that saw it presumably didn’t see it clearly or he would have known it’s a red card offence.
As I’ve said before, the problem isn’t with the FA’s interpretation of the rules, it’s the rules themselves!
The clubs have plenty of opportunities to query the rules, and they should stand up to the FA to ensure they are involved in shaping the rules in the interest of the end customers, us!
The problem is, if Haidara had his leg off the ground, he’d just have a bit of bruising and could have carried on. Still a red card? Probably…but then there would be one of those almost every game.
40 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM
iF I attacked someone in the street With both boots and flying through the air both feet and maiming someone ..I would be Jailed for it ..GBH..Can the police not get involved and any Newcastle fan that witnessed this report the Attack ..then the police would have to look at it and give an answer.
41 Jackel001 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Every footballing person, pundit, fan, ex-player has even said that if that doesn’t get addressed then there is something seriously wrong.
Dwight Yourke’s reaction spoke volumes on Sky.
42 AndyNUFC // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Do they not appreciate that the fact they leave a tackle like unpunished, as well as physically, mentally scars players.
Do they just want to see us take our own revenge and have a player break McManaman’s leg now? There’s no precedent set by just blindly letting these things happen.
43 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM
tHe Police used Video Evidence when Stephen Gerrard was up at crown court , the Vid showed that Gerrard punched a blokes face in with a sustained attack of punches that went on for a long time ..hit him a dozen or so times ..so vid evidence can be used against a suspect..and the police can see what we all seen at Wigan.
44 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Gobsmacked…
45 spitfire_ // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM
So basically the two-letter group say that you can put an end to a someone’s career and the officials didn’t see it… it’s just fine… Isn’t it hilarious… in the wrong way… what sick old FCUK you must be to have this kind of justice? What a bunch of clueless old fcuks and pr!cks are those in the two-letter group?
46 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:36 PM
There is seeing an an incident and seeing an incident
1. Linesman sees coming together of two players -no infringements take place. No concerns/problems here.
2.Linesman sees coming together of players does not see infringement- Later video evidence reveals infringement -therefore linesman did not see entire incident – therefore action should be taken as the whole incident was not seen.
47 nick_9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:36 PM
ABSOLUTE CLOWNS – how can that tackle go unpunished? Collo got punished for intent against Suarez, tiote got a red against the Mackems for a lot less. The governing body are a joke!! Because one official saw some of the incident the lad gets off free so they don’t have to question a refereeing decision. Man I’m p155ed off with these old farts, I hope John carver gets hold of them because they will be quick to fine him. I guess McManamam didn’t do anything serious enough to warrant a card like taking his top off :/
48 Martoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM
the FA is corrupt.
if wigan stay up again this year then there has to be match fixing going on.
49 geordiemark // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM
I dont think other premire league players at all the clubs will like this one bit if anything the wigan player will be a marked man from now on just watch the coming weeks see what happens
50 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Fire the official who did see the incident, ban McManaman for an appropriate time (end of season), fine Whelan for his pathetic comments.
51 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Spitfire ..could not have said that better myself..Spot on.
.But if I say it someone will report me to the E. D. and I will get a 5 match blog ban !
52 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Online guy
I think the difficulty here is that you agree to challenges on you on football field so you then have to prove intent to hurt. In a criminal court you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt which is very hard, what we could do is sue him in a civil court here you just need to be more than 50% sure.
Also I replied to your comments last night on the thread you commented on last. Have a read and let me know
53 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM
The FA have just confirmed what we always knew about them and I can’t write that here with kids about
” Not malicious bone in his body ” and ” he’s not that type”
The guy has serious previous!!!! Absolute scum as bad as when Hunt did Czeck.
54 Tsunki // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM
Although FIFA are themselves no credit, they are spot on about one thing – the English FA is a rabble of bumbling incompetents who vaccillate endlessly to absolve themselves from any decision making of any merit. The way they rephrase the ‘rules’ to somehow prove they are above media and club pressure is pathetic. They allow themselves endless permutations of interpreting events which means that ‘intent’ in the Cabaye / El Abd incident can be fomented by a crap journo (yes you, Ray) and yet the overwhelming opinion of the football world and common sense itself can be brushed aside, regardless of the fact that the FA heap even more derision on themselves. If the FA can’t be overhauled it should be entirely replaced with a more competent body that does not bow to its corporate pals and conflicted interests.
A disgrace to the English game.
55 geordiemark // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM
read this lads this will get yous going even more
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/198397.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
56 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM
here’s a thought can Mike or Pardew actually stop the officials coming back to us either home or away, can they have a say in the matter to stop Hasley and the linesmen to never play in our game again, does any 1 know????????/
57 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM
ITs like the Disciplinary panel that dishes out retro bans on a Monday morning ..They are all London domiciled ..all live near Wembley and are usually ex London clubs players ..they sit in Judgement of north east players ..and Newcastle or Sun**and dont stand a chance with this lot as we always suffer at their hands . This FA are a complete joke ..that Email to the FA is all correct and also TUFF..your spot on guv.
58 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Nick 9
Taking your shirt off for a goal celebration is way, way more serious than what McManaman did lol !!!!!!
Sadly with the FA I’m not joking. The biggest sick joke of an institution there is.
59 joeinthecheapseats // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Can only hope WIgan get what they deserve RELEGATION
60 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Yes Transfer… all read up ..there are worse things in Life ..lets just put this behind us ..all best mate.
61 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:49 PM
I used to really like Wigan under martinez and the way they play, but could not be more disappointed, especially with Whelan, what an a…hole.
62 nick_9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM
NOW the fa have rejected norwich’s appeal against their keepers sending off. These guys are out of touch. McManaman goes unpunished whilst Haiadara is out for god knows how long and Bunn misses three games
63 thepict // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM
Typical of the F.A. No guts, of course JC got a 3 match ban, how dare he verbally abuse somebody . After all , all that thug did was jeopardise a fellow professionals career. It’s about time that bunch of old f@rts that make up the F.A. were disbanded
Time for Mike to get the lawyers involved and sue the thug.
64 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Worrying that we still haven’t heard any diagnosis on Haidara. Hope he gets better treatment than our medical staff. Super slow to react on Sunday.
65 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Tsunki
The more of these stories I see the more I believe the premier league has the FA in their back pocket.
Nearly all decisions are controversial. They can some players, not others, some managers get away with speaking out, others don’t. It’s almost like they want to keep wigans players away from a ban so they can do their usual end of season run to survival, might get more viewers around the world and more money.
It was only a year ago they appealed rooneys ban, got it reduced by one game, for intentionally kicking out at an opponent when playing for England. They don’t follow the rules they set.
Also if no action can be taken if an official sees it then why can a ban be overturned if a player is given a red card. The red saw it and deemed it a red so why can that be overturned but not the reverse.
66 tooninspain // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
ToonDarnSarf…..how the hell can you say there’s a similar tackle to this every game? Tha tackle was knee high, and he had both feet off the ground. Also, McManaman isn’t even looking at the ball. The intent is there to see.
67 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Anyone know if there is a way we can contact Haidara in a similar way we contacted Ben Arfa. He is just a young lad and our support would mean a lot to him. Injuries like that are at least as damaging mentally but messages can help him show our support.
68 JAMSHA // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
PROTEST… AT HOME WE NEED TO HAVE BANNERS THE FA ARE RACIEST…. THEY ARE KILLNG THE EPL
69 barkintoonfan9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:52 PM
f+++++g c+++s no back bone makes me feel physically sick. The lads career could have been over at 20 years old!!1 One of the worst tackles i have see. The beautiful game is run by a bunch of fing clowns. There needs to be serious reform…. God i feel so ill reading that bull s++t statement!
ps. sorry for the language ed
70 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM
jamsha
that’s got nothing to do with this
71 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM
Losing faith in this game I love.
Is it wrong though that I could almost forgive all of this just as long as Haidara isn’t as badly injured as we fear?
72 ash1001 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Carver has just been charged by the FA
73 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM
Tinman
Nothing official I have seen but can email or post a letter to the club and state it’s for the intention of haidara and wishing him well.
Online
Yes we can. We are all here to share our views on the club.
74 Jail for Ashley // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM
How fitting that the FA are keen to appoint the greedy parasite Micheal Owen to an ambassadorial role for their greedy parasitical empire.
75 Ben_BKK // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:56 PM
And now Carver’s charged by the FA. It’s like they want to piss the whole of Newcastle off.
76 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:57 PM
Conspiracy theory
Whelan in his interview says that the referee saw it
Does he know something that we don’t
77 allyallalls // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Newcastle assistant manager John Carver charged with misconduct by the FA #SSN
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78 Ben_BKK // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Wigan fan on Talksport saying he’s proud of the commitment from McManaman. Absolutely disgusting, as bad as Wigan’s manager and owner.
79 MacToon // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Disgraceful, unbelievable and shocking decisions by the FA.
80 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM
as for me and others on here wanting lambias out im starting to have second thoughts about him, he’s trying every way possible to get justice for our young lad and hope he succeeds into the matter further
81 Jackel001 // Mar 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Carver charged with misconduct. This is a total fcking farse.
82 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM
I will put it another way ..there are rules within Football that say you cannot act in a way to cause injury or danger to an opponent on the pitch ..so really it is not acceptable and against the rules on the pitch
there is also the fact that they are in a place of work and there is a common law of the land that you cannot inflict violence on anyone in a place of work .or out of it !.Football is seen as a contact sport but its against the football laws to contact any player in a violent Manner..
I cannot take this in JOhn Carver has been Banned as we Know ..Am I living in a universe where I am making up my own surroundings and events ..IS this all real ..Am I dreaming ..this is absurd man !. iM off to watch a Genesis gig from 1972-3 ish when Pete was Still there and wearing his funny hats ..I need some reality here ! haha !
83 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM
How bloody stupid are Wigan fans. Holy shit. Frigging disgusting. Claiming that there is anti wigan media. So stupid its almost funny
84 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM
Are Wigan fans right in the head defending the tackle.
85 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM
how can carver be charged when the referee saw and dealt with it at the match?
86 kevymartins // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Wigan fans on talksport saying its anti-wigan?/ wtf
haha this is funny
87 Dagwoodz // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130319/fa-charge-john-carver_2281670_3115208
Gotta love the FA. Seems that they have a serious bone to pick with NUFC.
It’s almost like they are encouraging us to go down, and Wigan to stay up….
This decision to not act against Mcmanaman, and charge Carver is infuriatingly naive, and hypocritical by the FA. I would love to drone on about the inadequecies of that august organization, but I shant.
Instead, going to put my efforts into supporting Massadio Haidara on his recovery.
Ahhh, f*** it…the FA can take a long walk off a short pier.
88 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Just passed on my best wishes to Massadio through the club’s contact section, if anyone else would like to do the same here’s the link:
http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/ContactUs
89 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM
what Carver did at the game i loved it, i think Mc manaman should count himself lucky he was able to leave Newcastle, not only do we have the best fan support in the world but we also have the most passion and toughest
90 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:04 PM
This whole situation is absolutely laughable. all we can do is refuse to play any more matches where any of the officials at wigan are refereeing, and swallow the rest with dignity, and wish sadio a speedy recovery.
what we dont need is mindless morons sending death threats and the like, giving the club a bad name
91 outsidethebox // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:05 PM
tinman
saw he has twitter account ..but not sure if he speaks english…but agree with your sentiment
92 WWYCD // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:05 PM
That kid may of escaped punishment but the Toon Army will never forget what he did and there’s a damn sight more mags than whatever the 3 wigan fans are know as.
Its no wonder the FA are considered a joke
93 jettson1971 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM
This must mean the referee and linesman are now unable to officiate games again, if they did not action the tackle then they are inept, blind not capable.
I do think that Callum Mcmnanan will now have to watch his back both off and on the field!!
94 Beardosfacedouble // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM
wonder if Taylor will tell FA where to stick their England call-up???
95 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
This Anti FA/Wigan thing that is going on right now will work in Our favour in that the country will be right behind Newcastle United right now and during the run in. …Newspaper men will follow suit ..Confidence is everything on the pitch.. and this will actually lift the Newcastle Players .
96 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Send a complaint to the FA. Let them know that the rules they have now are not in the good of the game and are against general opinions of fans.
Keep it clean though chaps, they’ll just bin anything offensive without reading it all.
97 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM
beardosfacedouble
that would be counter productive. regardless of fa he loves his club and country and noone could turn down that opportunity, especially after us going on about him getting it for so long
98 jettson1971 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Time for Llambias to take take legal action and put cat among pigeons, the FA have been spineless for years, ans old mans club with no backbone, the decision making process is comedy!!
How can CArver be done but there bloke who raisewd hands to Carver not be charged???
Even the linesman was talking to Halsey when Carver had the incident! So he did see that. Lets take Mcmananm to the cleaners and sue the FA as well!!
99 toon1973 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM
just reading the “wigan today” view on this…”lack of views”…dont even use the correct picture of the tackle(if ya want to call it that)….and mindless comments……
http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-athletic/mcmanaman-no-action-can-be-taken-1-5506222
100 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:11 PM
I just don’t understand the rule.
They cannot take action if the ref or official saw it. Fine stick to that if they want.
But why can they then take action if a player is given a red to over turn it? Surely if it can be overturned if it wasnt a foul it should be overturned if it was and not spotted properly.
101 Pushy Pardew // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Ruddy
Please don’t try and reduce Ibiza to your level. I value his opinion and respect him and he has not joined in the kangaroo court practices you and a few others have perpetrated. I don’t suffer from a dark side and like others you seek to discredit am happy to get on with my life. I am not personally at odds with you but regret that you found it necessary to join in the fun at the expense of bloggers who are NUFC
through and through. I will leave you to reflect.!
102 jettson1971 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM
F’in muppets, just hope Wiganm go down, Mcmanama gets done and Whelan goes bankrupt!!
103 Jackel001 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:14 PM
Lad on TalkSport hit the nail on the head. ” How can we be dubbed the best league in the world with the FA in charge”
104 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM
i think the F.A is like our government, doesn’t give a sh!t as long as there’s money involved.
105 toontom // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM
Does anyone know any info on how many tickets a member will be able to buy for the Sunderland game??
106 sward24 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:17 PM
Something I have done before in controversial circumstances is to contact the FA via their website to express my views about their actions. It’s quite easy to do so perhaps if loads of us contact them explaining our disbelief and anger at the decision then they will at least begin to see just how many people are losing faith in them!
It’s absolutely ridiculous to not punish him for this and I hope that we do end up suing and get as much money as we can, but even that is no consolation for Haidara.
107 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:18 PM
I wonder ..do you think we will have an easy time signing young French players ..or any overseas young player. Will they choose to come here now ? when they see that they get no protection against being maimed by English thugs on the pitch? No protection against that ,from the English FA ..
108 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
tooninspain – because I see tackles like this a lot! Some just miss the player, some result in fouls or a card, most do not result in serious injury. But they are all dangerous. These kinds of tackles only get highlighted when someone gets seriously injured from them.
His second foot was trailing, he didn’t go in with both feet.
Google “newcastle tackle high” and as well as the Haidara issue, you’ll see pictures of similar challenges by Raylor, Nolan, Cabaye, Smith and others.
109 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Wondering if Uefa Can get involved as Hiadara is registred with them ?
110 Santon03 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
well… if mcmanaman is still a human being, regardless action or no action he would apologize publicly whether it was intentional or not. unless he can sleep like a baby without feeling any guilt whatsoever.
111 hugenufcfan // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM
The FA can take their rules and shove it up their a**.
Rules are meant to be there for a pratcial purpose. This is simply how any bereaucracy works. Rules which have not purpose are just there for the sake of being there.
#EPICCALLYPATHETIC
112 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM
just a thought with all this happening with wigan, Mc damforhim and Whelan i also think Callum agent might be involved aswell
113 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:22 PM
personally, and this may through the cat amongst the pigeons, i think anitas challenge was just as bad.
however the difference is i would have had no complaints at a retrospective ban for him for that tackle.
my main issue is with the lack of class in all involved at wigan and the lack of transparency at the fa
Mcmanaman didnt have the decency to even apologise until forced by boyce
both martinez and whelan ludicrously defended him.
the fa can retrospectively overturn a red card, but cannot issue a punishment- this makes no sense
they can retrospectively punish carver, even though the ref ‘dealt with this’ at the match.
farcical
114 ToonDarnSarf // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM
I’d just like to reiterate that important point. Tackles like this happen frequently, it’s just that they are highlighted when someone gets seriously injured. It doesn’t mean they shouldn’t result in a ban though, they should. And retrospective punishment should be given regardless of whether it was (partially) seen or not.
Seriously, Google “newcastle tackle high” and as well as the Haidara images, you’ll see pictures of similar challenges by Raylor, Nolan, Cabaye, Smith and others. You’ll see one of these in almost every game, although most do not result in injury because they either don’t make proper contact with the player, or if they do they don’t result in injury because the other player’s foot isn’t planted on the ground.
115 Alan Pas-de-clue // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM
throw* even, shocking spelling
116 Black and White with an army lol // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM
Lads this is what Wigan will be saying soon about the F.A
Rules are written by men.
117 AndyNUFC // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM
I wouldn’t worry about this, we’ll be taking them to court.
118 Santon03 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Let’s just face it, nobody likes us, nobody wants us doing well. Everyone envy a little wee club from the north have good support home and away.
119 giimps // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:29 PM
The time is right to set up another footballing governing body in which video evidence etc can be used.
The prem and all other leagues which have tv coverage should leave the FA and sign up, Sky and other tv companies would probably follow as it would highlight the quality of football broadcasts.
I hated the FA before today and hate them even more now, I liked Wigan before Sunday as well as Martinez (Hated Whelan anyway though) now I hope they drop through the leagues like a proverbial stone and both of their fans end up watching Wigan vs Telford (no disrespect to Telford) Hope Sadio is going to be ok though, hopefully this will galvanize the team and instill a them vs us mentality.
HWTL and F*ck the old Bast*rds at the FA
120 allyallalls // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Callum McManaman with the worst tackle I’ve seen, since this one. pic.twitter.com/6qe1j3DMlH
121 Transfer Sage // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Alan pas de clue
I agree. Anita vs anzhi was horrible and could have snapped his shin.
122 Spreadthetoon // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Ruddy @ 86
Good call lad, just sent my well wishes to Massadio.
I would encourage all posters on here to do the same to show your support for the lad!
http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/ContactUs
As for the FA…….speechless!
123 weg // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM
This absolutely disgusting decision to do nothing about McMaim-a-man shows just how truly incompetent the FA are. Whether this boy is making his debut or not, he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL footballer and should act accordingly and when players don’t, they should be punished.
Wigan’s chairman and manager, by defending the tackle/player, prove they are highly unprofessional.
As for the FA, as someone said earlier, they should be disbanded. The FA – not just the disciplinary panel – are useless, and are themselves bringing the game into disrepute. The football clubs should come together and withdraw their registration from the ‘Football Association’ to create a new football body that discards all the old idiotic practices and becomes modern and fresh and is able to apply sense to the rules and the game as a whole.
Probably not gonna happen!lol
I also think that the club should begin court proceedings against the Wigan FC and especially against the FA!
124 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Muppet on Talk Sport from FA trying to argue his point.
Switching to BBC total sport to hear what ANDO says
125 giimps // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Toondarnsarf, his “trailing leg” was off the ground when he made contact with Sadios knee, I have never seen a tackle that reckless.
That is a cowards tackle, Sadio took the ball he took Sadio and nudged the ball afterwards, he is a thug end of………….hopefully he will get some equally bad tackles when they are in the championship next season and he may just realise how bad it was……he is scum and should never play for any team again, even the club have to handle him different as he gets too wound up and is not in control, if that dont tell you something about him nothing will……….get him out of football and into jail where he belongs
126 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Ruddy
Just been on and left a message.
127 Tinman // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM
allyallalls
You horrible man. Hahahahahahahaha
128 Rotonda heights // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:40 PM
The seriously worrying thing is kids will see that and think it’s ok. Good one FA.
129 Williamsonsuks // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Cheers lads for Nufc contact link. Posted a get well soon message.
I can’t believe this has happened to us again!! What have we done wrong to deserve this? Yeah I know everybody uses that phrase when the sh1t hits the fanfan but Cmon. They loved ripping into Joey Barton every chance they had. and the Ben Arfa, De Jong thing.
We all know that if had been 1 of Fergies players there would’ve been complete anarchy. Isn’t there someone who can over rule this pathetic, cowardly decision? All the pundits, some referees and probably every football fan (bar Wigans) knew something had to be done about that disgusting, malicious, scathing attack. I really hope Wigan go down and Whelan ends up bust!!!
130 magpie6699 // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Here’s a conundrum for me. The referee is in charge of the game and his decision is paramount: if he doesn’t see something, he relies on the views of his assistants. However, when he fails to see something AND there is video evidence to review, surely HIS opinion should be taken into account and he should be asked what he would have done had he seen the incident. If Halsey reviewed the incident and says “If I had seen that I would have sent the player off” shouldn’t that over-rule any assistant opinion, just as would apply during a game.
I realise that that is far too logical a thought for the sweet FA.
One other thought; I had heard somewhere earlier this season that the FA were trying to encourage the elimination of “reckless” or dangerous challenges this season, even where the ball was won fairly? Or did I imagine that?
131 ONLINE GUY // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Big Scrap on Radio Newcastle .
132 Mister Tuff // Mar 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
For those unsure about the thugs tackle I was checking out a Hibs blog and there is couple of continuous videos on the assault. The first one at post 2 shows incident from the side and another at post 10 shows a camera angle behind the thug – lets you see both feet off the ground. Link:-
http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?259640-McManaman-tackle-(Wigan-v-Magpies)
133 stuart no9 // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
the FA (F//cking Ars//oles) should hang their head in shame. Disgusted to say the least. they are a bunch of old clueless bottlers that need kicking out, and a complete overhaul is needed. these are cowards who have no mind of theit own.
to say a linesman seen it ( but not all of it ) how the f./.ck can he say it was fair when he never saw all of it? boll//ks pure boll/cks. angry very angry, Rooney- van-persie , now thats different.
134 geordiemark // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:14 PM
there is one course of action newcastle united can take and ask fifa to step in and see what they think of the tackle the wigan player done I wont name him hes to much of a coward to name, its obvious that our FA are incompentent on handing out punishments so FIFA will have to do it
135 geordiemark // Mar 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM
ed can we please have a page dedicated to Massadio Haidara please so we can all wish him well and a speedy recovery
136 The Casino Manager // Mar 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM
I read the blog all the time, but never comment, but have to say I am astounded the FA have chosen not to do anything here. Surely the appeals commission should now be redundant as if the referee sees an incident and sends someone off they should no longer be able to over rule the official. I originally thought it was good the ref did not book the player from his bad view point as it meant action could then be taken! It really is one of the worst tackles I have seen in a long time, the fact both feet are off the ground when in contact with the leg shows that it is reckless and he has no control over the force used. I hope haidara makes a speedy recovery and look forward to Wigan going down. Was also surprised at Martinez comments.
137 Roger // Mar 20, 2013 at 8:05 AM
As a member of this club, as a german supporter
I can say, in germany McManaman will be send
for this foul.
Let`s give the FA the answer in Manchester.
Hope that wigan will play next season in the
second league. McManaman don`t come to
St. James Park next year.You are a poor man.
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