The FA Embarrass Themselves – Knee High Tackles Now Allowed?

It was a surprise when the FA announced yesterday that there was nothing they could so about McManaman’s tackle on Newcastle’s Haidara on Sunday because one official had seen the tackle.

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One official saw this tackle so there’s nothing we can do – honest

So we have to assume that the FA thought that official thought the tackle – a lunge of the Wigan player’s boot straight at Haidara’s knee – was fair and they could not interfere with the refereeing of the game.

This is the statement issued by the FA:

“The FA can confirm that no action can be taken against Wigan Athletic’s Callum McManaman retrospectively following his side’s game against Newcastle United on Sunday 17 March 2013.

“Following consultation with the game’s stakeholders [the Premier League, the Football League, the Professional Footballers’ Association, the League Managers’ Association, Professional Game Match Officials Limited and the National Game] in the summer, it was agreed that retrospective action should only be taken in respect of incidents which have not been seen by the match officials.

“Where one of the officials has seen a coming together of players, no retrospective action should be taken, regardless of whether he or she witnessed the full or particular nature of the challenge. This is to avoid the re-refereeing of incidents.

“In the case of McManaman, it has been confirmed that at least one of the match officials saw the coming together, though not the full extent of the challenge. In these circumstances retrospective action cannot be taken. The principal objective behind the not seen policy is to address off the ball incidents where match officials are unlikely to be in a position to witness misconduct.”

Any reasonable person reading that statement can assume that the tackle made by McManaman was fair – and so tackles going straight into an opponent’s knee are now allowed?

That’s just one of the nonsenses that their statement alludes to.

The English FA have always lacked a backbone – always – and they have shied away from tough decisions – and here ls another example that they have found something – this time one official of the four saw the tackle and did nothing – and therefore they are saved again – and hey – sorry there’s  nothing we can do about it.

If that one official thought the tackle was fair – what does that say about his understanding of the rules?

But Derek Llambias’ response was a fantastic statement that laid bare the stupidities of the FA’s position.

We hope Newcastle will now take this further, because what Derek said is absolutely true – the FA basically are not doing their job – and need to start doing it.

This is Derek LLambias’ response yesterday:

There has been significant public reaction from media, industry figures and supporters to the tackle made by Wigan Athletic’s Callum McManaman on Massadio Haidara during the first-half of our Premier League fixture on Sunday, 17th March, in particular comments made by Wigan’s owner Dave Whelan.

I have the greatest respect for Dave, who has been in the game for a long time as a professional footballer and now owner. I am also aware that Dave’s career was cut short due to injury. I am therefore disappointed and surprised by the comments he made yesterday, in particular his assertion that the tackle by Callum McManaman “was a fair challenge”.

It is our strongly held opinion that the tackle on Massadio was extremely dangerous and is the type of challenge that has the potential to cause serious harm and such was the force, and reckless and dangerous nature of the challenge, even end a player’s career.

It was not a fair challenge. This view is shared by countless former players, referees and well-respected media commentators. Indeed it appears to be only Dave Whelan who takes a contrary view. We are disappointed to learn that the FA is not going to charge the Wigan player. We were first notified of this decision by a national media outlet who received notification from the FA confirming the decision. This was prior to anyone from the FA having the courtesy to contact the Club to let us know.

It is clear from this decision that the current disciplinary procedures are not fit for purpose. Newcastle United, along with other clubs, have had players suspended for incidents reviewed after the game. Whilst not trivialising these incidents, they were not, in our opinion, of the seriousness of Callum McManaman’s tackle on Haidara.

Whilst we understand that the current procedures give the FA limited options, it cannot be correct that the most serious offences – those which have the potential to cause another player serious harm – can go unpunished, even if the original incident was seen by match officials.

We will now be making a strong representation to the FA and the Premier League to see how a more appropriate, fair and even-handed disciplinary process can be introduced at the earliest opportunity to prevent incidents of this nature going unpunished in the future.

Our attentions at this time are firmly with Massadio. He only joined us in January, but in that short time he has impressed us immensely both on and off the field. Massadio was scanned yesterday and will continue to be assessed for the remainder of the week.

He will undergo a further scan next week in order to determine the extent of the damage caused. Contrary to comments in the media, there is currently no timescale for his recovery.

We would like to thank our fans for their heart-felt messages of support for Massadio. We are passing these messages on to him and we are sure they will help keep his spirits up.

That’s simply a brilliant response from Newcastle and Derek LLambias.

It took somebody with guts to take on the FA – it looks like Derek has done that, on behalf of Newcastle United.

Good for him.

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17 comments so far

  • Wendall

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #1

    I am a longtime reader, but seldom post.

    Transfer. I was about the make the same point. If the FA is able to rescind a red card (which is in actual fact re-refereeing), why can they not have retrospective punishment for a decision that was wrongly made by the official. Bunch of spineless hypocrites!!!

    We should challenge them in court.

  • Transfer Sage

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #2

    There has been a lot more outcry over this than any other tackle for quite a while which is god, I like how Llambias has commented too.

    Hopefully journos will ask questions about it in pre game interviews on friday and get some other managers views on it.

  • Bearsize

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #3

    Get well mate see u soon

  • ajcrawfs

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #4

    having an argument with two idiots on the BBC article, anyone fancy chipping in?

  • NUFCarter

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #5

    The reason why steven taylor was never picked for england previously was because fabio capello always thought steven taylor was a midfielder.

  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #6

    this is the biggest load of drivel i have ever heard:
    If a doctor realises another doctor has done an operation wrong and the patient life is at risk, will they leave it to not undermine the other doctor,
    if a mechanic fails to fix a car properly and another mechanic sees this would they say nothing and put the drivers life in danger as saying something or fixing it would would undermine the first mechanic,
    if a police man seen that the wrong person was in court, would they not say something and get an innocent person sent down as they do not want to undermine,
    no, No and NO
    so why is this different?

  • Klatoon

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #7

    We’ll just have to wait till a manure player’s on the receiving end of one. FA only listen 2 Fergie

  • obatoyou

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #8

    get well soon Massadio~

    can understand, don’t want re-refereeing of incidents, there would be 50 per game….

    maybe a more fundamental solution to the problem is needed..

    Hopefully, taking steps towards goal line technology is an indication of the direction we’re headed.

  • obatoyou

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #9

    stay away from them BBC, the whole blog is an argument~

  • Owldman

    Mar 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #10

    Statement from Capello that he thought Taylor was a midfielder is typical of the shambles that is called the FA, I dont honestly think Steve will get on the pitch,not when Hodgson is talking about playing Carrick as a CMD, I believe he is only there to make up the squad numbers.

  • stuart no9

    Mar 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #11

    this whole saga is so annoying and uncalled for- and time consuming. when we should be concentrating on prem survival we find ourselves in a scrap with the pathetic incompetent specimens who run our beloved game, and rightly so, this kind of situation has been going on for years – it is time for it to stop.i hope NUFC take this further as we seem to have the football world on our side . the only people who disagree with us is Mr whelan and some bloke with a flag who dosnt know the rules of the game. enough is enough . however i am sure NUFC will do what is best for the club and the haidara.

  • Benji84

    Mar 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #12

    can some answer this which offical saw this and were was he located?. second how the hell can nani get a red for his tackle and this one gets nothing. I’m confused. opinions everyone

  • geordiemark

    Mar 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #13

    the FA can go and FO in my eyes, there currupt to the hilt them lot and refs dont get me started on them lot

  • geordiemark

    Mar 20, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #14


    look at this web page shows the pics and video

  • geordiemark

    Mar 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #16


    can newcastle united complain to fifa about this am sure they can if there not happy or maybe eufa

  • firebug666

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #17


    You can complain to the FA in writing at:

    Customer Relations
    The Football Association
    Wembley Stadium
    PO Box 1966
    SW1P 9EA

    and if your not satisfied with their reply; (And you won’t be) you can contact the IFO

    Independent Football Ombudsman (IFO)
    Suite 49
    33 Great George Street
    LS1 3AJ

    To be honest i can’t see you getting any joy out of either, but it will allow you to get it of your chest. I have just finished complaining to both, not expecting any replies but you never know. Think we should keep this alive now until we force the FA to change their diabolical rules and grow some balls.


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