Time For Wigan to Show Some Class On Hairdara Injury


We cannot say that Wigan Football Club have come across very well in the last few days, after our left-back Massadio Haidara was injured badly on Sunday, by that terrible tackle from McManaman.

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David Whelan – self-serving and rather stupid statement

Statements coming from the manager and the owner of Wigan have been self-serving and more aimed at trying to get their player off and not get a ban from the FA, rather than telling things they way they are.

Manager Roberto Martinez said his player had no intent to injure Massadio and the owner David Whelan did himself and his football club no favors at all, by saying he thought the tackle as clean as a whistle .

That was more a case of stirring the controversy , rather than a truthful statement from the owner, but he has a history of making these type of outspoken comments in public.

When you watch the video of the tackle, McManaman’s boot goes straight into the Frenchman’s knee, so Whelan’s statement only made things worse – a lot worse – and was uncalled for from a man in his position.

One the other hand Newcastle held a diplomatic silence until the FA announced their decision yesterday, that they could do nothing about the tackle – surprise, surprise – and then Managing Director Derek LLambias issued his statement on behalf of Newcastle United, and it was both balanced and brilliant.

We expect Newcastle to take legal action against Wigan, and Derek’s note made so much sense – telling the FA they are not doing their job – which has been true for years – that hopefully the FA will take Derek’s advice seriously – but we don’t think they will.

We understand there has been no apology yet from McManaman or Wigan to Haidara – and maybe it was too early, given Massadio’s state of mind after the horror challenge.

But now is a good time for Wigan to do the right thing, and give an apology to the Frenchman – and even make it public.

We hope they will – and show a little bit of class.

They cannot do much worse than they’ve done already in the self-serving way they have handled this affair to date.

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80 comments so far

  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #1

    Repost

    @lesh

    Callum mcmanaman deserves it, he has shown no remorse to what he’s done to haidara.
    I’m just surprised dave whelan hasn’t received any as of yet.

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  • martoon

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #2

    Martoon – I’m not going to enter into a debate with you except to say I have used this name (lower case m) on this blog for a couple of years. Anybody looking at your (upper case M) idiotic posts can tell who is the original and who is the imposter!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #3

    I think that boat has sailed Ed.

    Profound and profuse apologies should have been instantaneous. What a scum bag Whelan is. 4 days on and no remorse at all. Simply disgusting

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  • JAMSHA

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #4

    they are bunch of c**ts, so they wont apologize

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #5

    @martoon

    Just ignore him mate, he’s been posting a load of s**t on here lately, hopefully ed just removes him completely

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  • Dubaigeordie

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #6

    Apologies should of been given as soon as the game finished! just a disgrace that they have to wait this long to apologise for a possible career ending challenge.

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  • ichrisho

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #7

    Wigan … and Class….. has never and I repeat never been mentioned in the same sentence before… the chairman’s an aul’ bitter asshole… his football career was stopped short and now his business has been swallowed up by big Mike… the Manager is a joke… he mutters away at how they were outplayed… like every week… and as for the players… jeez.. what a bunch of misfits and on-the-way-out “pro’s”… Thy’re fans – well i think we all know about them… that said lets not stoop to their level 🙂

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  • JackButler

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #8

    Interesting headline ‘Time For Wigan to Show Some Class On Hairdara Injury’

    Thought they already showed the footballing world that they have no class?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #9

    Icrisho

    You need to be objective. Random insults make us as bad as them. Whelan is an absolute ………..!!

    On the other hand Wigan do have some very decent players like Kone, Maloney, Di Santo, Figueroa and McCarthy.

    I think Martinez has got caught between defending his player like all managers do and he was the first to say the cub and McManaman would apologise.

    Sadly Whelan waded in with some insensitive and thoroughly irresponsible and ill timed comments and the silence from McManaman has been deafening.

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  • G

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #10

    To be honest, Wigan’s public display of humility isn’t high on my list of priorities. If they wish to display themselves in this maner, then it’s their business. Good luck to them attracting players of a high calibre in future though. They will probably struggle to do that anyway from the Champo.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #11

    Martinez was hedging his bets defending his player even though he knew he had previous for this sort of thing, but the manager will 9 times out 10 support his player in a post match interview but he has shown himself up when he declared that the club and player would apologise, because even if they have apologised privately they needed to do it publicly.

    The opportunity to apologise was also taken away by that bitter old goat Whelan, so even if Martinez/McManaman felt compelled to apologise they now cannot do so without seemingly undermining their owner. DW has put them in a situation where they cannot come out of this with any shred of dignity whatsoever.

    When Wigan go down it will be oh so sweet, as the universe needs to be re-balanced after this Wigan horror show of PR stupidity.

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  • WWYCD

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #12

    I don’t care what Wigan, Whelan, Martinez or McManaman say now tbh its done. Never liked Wigan all that much and I don’t rate Martinez to begin with so no great loss to drop them in the ‘I hope we hammer them’ bucket

    My thoughts are only on Haidara and his injury (fair play to ya Sage for the card though I hope its in Geordie and French not English and French) kid been looking good and fearless which I hope continues when he’s back fit (before the season end ideally though if he’s held back longer so not to risk him that’s fine by me)

    And to those throwing threats at McManaman/Whelan enjoy the police visiting and don’t come looking for sympathy as u fully deserve what u get

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  • JAMSHA

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #13

    even if they do apologize, its like they have been forced to apoligize

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #14

    Rotonda

    I don’t say this very often but you’ve called it spot on.

    Just as I was saying, DW waded into the debate and thus removed the opportunity for Wigan/Martinez to apologise, perhaps because they thought it was an admission of guilt (not that anyone needs an admission to see that it was violent conduct) or perhaps because he hates how he has been bested by Mike Ashley and has a hatred for our club and will refuse to be seen on bended knee despite one of his players “doing” one of ours.

    His contradictory comments regarding the Essien tackle and this one in relation to his own career ending inury goes to show that he changed his tune, why? Because it was a Newcastle player injured and a Wigan player who injured him.

    No class.

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  • WWYCD

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #15

    Ruddy
    I agree on ur comment about Martinez being in a difficult position regarding backing his lad and now apologizing after Whelans public statement. He’s always been a honest manager to my memory but now his hands are tied I’d imagine he’ll want to move on from this as fast as he can

    Still a mediocre manager just a honest mediocre one

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  • Spitfire

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #16

    Have not posted on this blog for several years but this incident has really annoyed me. Not just the incident itself but how it is being dealt with. Essentially

    Macmananam makes a bad decision ( the tackle) and gets away with it
    Halsey makes a bad decision ( misses tackle) and gets away with it
    Linesman makes a bad decision ( sees it but does nothing) and gets away with it
    Halsey makes a bad decision ( misses our corner ) and gets away with it
    Halsey makes a bad decision ( misses handball) and gets away with it
    John Carver makes a bad decision ( he’s angry!) and is booked and will appear before the FA

    HOW ON EARTH IS THIS JUST AND EQUITABLE ???????

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #17

    Sage

    Also never got to saying this to you last night as I was swept up in Pushy fever, but fair play to you lad for the gesture with the card.

    If ever Massadio needed confirmation that he has joined the right club it will be now, when he has fallen on potentially hard times and needs the support of the fans.

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  • JackButler

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #18

    Wigan’s lack of understanding regarding the seriousness of the tackle and it’s long term effects on the player is hard to take, but the fact the governing body of our game has yet again failed to protect our players is what has made my stomach turn.
    They, the FA are duty bound to protect the welfare/health of all players but yet again they have failed to do so making themselves a laughing stock in the process.
    How long before a matter like this is taking out of the hands of the FA and a club takes legal action of their own???

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #19

    It will be interesting to see the views on NUFC fans that thought or still believe that Roberto Martinez would do a better job than Pardew now.

    No class at all from Wigan and although I felt no hate towards them I am starting to now after these shambolic turn of events.

    Ps. The F.A. are fcuking useless!! What an embarrassment. It seems as if they would like to keep this type of physicality and reckless challenges in the EPL. With their terrible handling of the situation that’s what they’re implying. This will only invite more of the same if players think they can get away with assault!

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #20

    Yo

    I’ve liked Martinez in front of the camera as he did always seem to tell it like it is. I remember that he got banned for 3 games for calling it like it is with regards poor refereeing decisions and at the time I felt bad for him but I respected him for doing it.

    Now he has been forced to stake his reputation as an honest man on the line as the owner has foolishly put his two pence in.

    Wouldn’t have him as a manager but I liked him as a person.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #21

    Can you imagine the uproar from whelan and co if one of our players had taken one of them out. Absolute hypocrites.
    Like these phone- in morons and keyboard warriors who say it wasn’t too bad. love to see them on the end of it.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Mar 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #22

    Everyone’s on a break … no training, no press conferences, so no news or comments.

    I’m thoroughly bored with this story.
    Give me some footy … aaaargh!!

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  • WWYCD

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #23

    Ruddy
    I agree with every bit of that comment so I’ll not add to it haha

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #24

    JP from the rock

    That’s a spurious argument. Martinez was defending his player like AP used to do with Barton (admittedly not as bad). Martinez was put in a terrible position by senile old Whelan.

    That’s no comment on his tactics etc as he is still a far better to watch, far more attacking manager than Pardew even with all our new players . That’s a different argument for a different day

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #25

    Rotanda – Fair reply. But I can’t help but feel let down by the referees, the F.A. and Wigan. I respected Martinez until he defended his player after such a blatant assault on Haidara. He is still a great manager but my views on him have altered slightly.

    On Pardew on not being so attacking, you might have a point but our precarious position in the league this season mainly due to injuries has tied down his options and courage to go all out and attack when securing points are vital now.

    Next season I fully expect it to be like last season and seriously challenge the top 6 by playing great attacking football.

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  • ichrisho

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #26

    Apologies Ruddy and Rotonda – it seems that we are being used as scapegoats… I was only joking in my assessment… I dont wish the toon army to be slated for being thugs or inciting anything… I do think that a public apology from Wigan would not be too much to ask… I reckon we get man-to-man on them next year and have Carver waiting in the tunnel at the start growling at folk!!! 🙂

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  • mart00n

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #27

    I’ve lost all respect for Wigan

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  • giimps

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #28

    I find it beyond comprehension that the FA have failed to act on this barbaric tackle, even though the referee had not seen the incident.
    To hide behind the fact one of the officials saw a coming together but not the tackle/assault is quite frankly as stupid as the law they are hiding behind.
    In Spain, (who adhere to the same guidelines as the English FA) in the case of violent conduct, they review video evidence to try and stamp violence out of their game, even if the whole world saw it they review and issue up to 8 match bans for the perpetrators.
    The English FA it seems do not undarstand the desire of Fifa to kick this kind of tackle out of football.
    Instead, they choose to prove they are bigger than the game and the “its our way or no way ” attitude .The FA coming out with the phrase “all teams signed up to the rules on retrospective punishment for off the ball incidents” well this was not off the ball, therefore if the ref didnt see it and the linesman didnt see it properly, what were they looking at ?
    Its time for a change, we need the tackles like this reviewed in public and we should be able to review the referees decision whether the incident was seen partially or not.
    They cant expect this incident to be ruled by a law, which was meant for a totally different situation and expect it to work, Spain have the right idea, a panel review dangerous/violent tackles, so why cant we……..its not like they have anything else to do or is that too sensible for those old cronies (I wouldnt mind betting Whelan has something on one of the panel and was using it to get his player off) HWTL

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  • estechco

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #29

    Is that correct that Carver was booked as part of the half time bust up?

    Surely that completely contradicts the FA’s stance that they don’t get involved if the officials have seen and/or dealt with it at the time?

    They are constantly hiding behind what is little more than semantics.

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  • ichrisho

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #30

    Oh and its good to see that TalkSport have sided with us in relation to the reaction to the FA… I can see a point that maybe all tackles in a game would have to be looked at retrospectively albeit I do think that they basically protected their own and have left a young “Non-English” player out for god knows how long… Yes I am saying if it was a young english player like Sammy or something – I do think the FA would have acted differently Controversial? …

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  • Williamsonsuks

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #31

    TS… I dont post much but read the blog a lot. Nice to see there is still some goodness about. I’m sure Haidara will appreciate and know he has the Toon armies backing.post Well done!

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  • ichrisho

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #32

    If you think our Ref decision was bad… take a look at this “Goal”… Unbelievable… ala Clive Allen for Spurs in the 80’s…

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  • stuart no9

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #34

    i really believe we should put all this behind us now.
    we are not safe from relegation , and all our efforts , thoughts ,and the normal bickering that goes on, to resume for the good of the club. we bloggers very rarely see eye to eye, however the one thing we do agree on is that we all want to see NUFC in the prem again next year. as for wigan. whelan, macmanaman, what goes around- comes around, i will wait patiently for that day to arrive . make no mistake- it will.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #35

    I mentioned yesterday that I had sent a get well soon message via email to Haidara. I received an email this morning from Mark Hannen Press Officer at the Toon saying my message will be passed on. So at least the system is working.

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  • bills-son

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #36

    I’m as brassed off as any fan about the tackle and Wigan’s response and lack of apology – but – I’ve got to say Ed is not doing himself any favours by continually saying Haidara was ‘badly injured’.

    It was a terrible tackle but we don’t know the extent of the injury. It could be just bad bruising and swelling and until the medics give us the facts it is wrong to state that the lad is badly injured. The extent of the injury makes absolutely no difference to the horror of the tackle and the classless response of McManaman and Whelan especially and the nonsense ‘coming together’ rule spouted by the FA.

    Ed should stick to the facts because making a noise about a terrible injury that may not be instead of a terrible tackle that definitely was is not the right way to address this issue.

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  • ichrisho

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #37

    Well said Stuart – think its time to look forward and concentrate on getting some wins in the league… we have won more times in the Ukraine this year than we have away games in the Prem… we have yet to score from a corner in about 700 mins… or is more? We are just below top 5 if you ask me and with a bit more coaching and some steady non-injury periods – we could be doing very well indeed by this time next year…

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  • toonLYF

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #38

    Since when was Santon injured?

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  • ArtyH

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #39

    IMHO there are a few points which have been missed in all of this. What is the purpose of the F.A? I thought it was to assist in the fair running of the football league and to assist players when they were in difficulty and when necessary punish players who have committed crimes against the game and other player. If this is not one of those cases nothing is. The F.A have been a joke for years and I am quite surprised that there have not been any investigations into some of the decisions they have made over the years. This particular incident has been judged almost universally as a career threatening action and to let it go unpunished by quoting some innocuous by law is criminal. This action leads to mistrust in the system and in particular the officials of the game. Why? Simply because an official who is biased against another team can in a similar game state he did not ” see ” an event ( even if he did ) so this same scenario would be repeated and again go unpunished. This action by the F.A has indeed proved them to be Unfit for purpose and the whole staff need to be sacked and a new set of competent people appointed, that is people who actually know something about playing the game.

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  • bills-son

    Mar 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #40

    Its not often I agree 100% with stuart09 but his post at 33 is spot on.

    If we lose at City and other results go against us we could be right back in the thick of the relegation battle. We’ve got 7 first teamers injured currently – Krul, Colo, Santon, Debuchy, Haidara, Cabaye and HBA – and the loss at Wigan, and the losing goals against Spurs and Swansea, were all down to lousy defending.

    This tackle issue and the Europa Cup can’t allow us to be deflected away from the absolute no.1 priority of staying in the Prem. Until we get 40pts nothing else is anywhere near as important.

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