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Three Players Back Thursday – City Just Too Strong

7:09 pm, Saturday, March 30th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 117 Comments

Alan Pardew is hoping to get some of his injured players back for Thursday night in Lisbon – and it looks like Davide Santon will definitely be ready – and Sylvain Marveaux too – after the manager didn’t want to risk the Frenchman today,  because of a slight groin problem.

davide santon scoring ncle gopal at wigan

Davide Santon scoring his first goal for club at Wigan

This is some of what Alan Pardew said to Rob Scanlon on nufcTV immediately after the game this afternoon – when Newcastle went down 4-0 at Manchester City:

“They had quality and the opposition was too strong for us today – it wasn’t a great result for us – they think the league’s over and they know that and they played with a no-pressure attitude.”

“We didn’t put enough pressure on them we didn’t keep the ball well enough in the first haf, and that’s an important lesson for Thursday night and going forward.” “Santon will be back for Thursday and Time Krul will be available.”

“And Marveaux – I was a little bit concerned about his groin – and he missed some training this week, and I didn’t really want to risk him today – I would if it was 2-1 or something – but he should be OK for Thursday,  and Check was a big miss today – and Massadio has half a chance also.”

“The goal was perfect timing for Manchester City really – if I could have got  them in at 1-0 I think we would have had a better second half,  but 2-0 and we were still out there with great ambition, and should have scored,  and we then would have had a different game.”

“But we couldn’t create enough pressure and their first shot in the second half goes in,  we couldn’t put them in an awkward uncomfortable position – we couldn’t do that today – and you have to do that with good sides.”

“We lacked balance today We had some square pegs in round holes today but we should be better, certainly for Sunday. and hopefully for Thursday too.”

We need to show a lot better form at Benfica and at home next Sunday afternoon, when we entertain Fulham – and that’s now a vital game for us – and we need a full house at St. James” Park to cheer our lads on – hopefully to victory.

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117 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    The only time we showed up today was for about 10 minutes at the beginning of the second half. Other than that it was a poor display.

  • 2 woolerbill // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    We never show up to win , just not to get beat, but we get beat. Come on Par dew think out of the box or go down.

  • 3 ToonMauritius // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    hi lads
    i hope we sack AP and get J.Heynckes on board

  • 4 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Ah bless….Pardew !

    They played with no fear….. That might have something to do with after ten minutes they had worked us out, knew we were no threat and could have taken four of their players off and still beaten us.

    You would think after listening to his interview it was a shock result against his attacking team but they just did not play…. We have played negatively all season – The league table does not lie –

    MR Pardew, please work a little more in training on attacking the opposition. Goals win games and if we are causing them grief- they wont be causing us ‘as much ‘ as teams have lately.

    I hope we have these players back for prem league, we NEED them.

    Finally, I have said it before but wont say it again ( as have many others) OBERTAN has had enough chances…no more.

    In my opinion.

  • 5 Aalesund // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    We have lost 16 games this season out of 31 games… terrible!

    http://www.facebook.com/SackAlanPardew

  • 6 yo-yo // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Catchy

    You are one of the most negative bloggers on here and rant endlessly about Pardew in frequent hate-fests – but turn up like a bad penny when we get beat. Rarely see your posts when we win. Always when we lose.

    We are a mid table team at present – we totally lost momentum from last season through a combination of circumstances – the most important of which imo was the failure to strengthen in the summertime, followed by our dismal list of injuries, bad form, bad luck (e.g. Wigan) and also poor managerial decisions.

  • 7 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    I listened to the game on the radio today and it wasn’t pretty to watch :O, did Pards really go out and tell the players we would lose today so keep the damage down, when we score four we could have scored five if a tactical 1 0 comes off Cisse is shite for only scoring the winner, sacking managers costs more than buying a top class French international manager we seen how long that took to happen, we’ve got as much chance as seeing Mourinho as we have of seeing Pardew get the bullet.

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    International fullback !

  • 9 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Its always an excuse with this guy Guti was the only one played out of position but then again he has played that position before for both club and country.we lack balance every game with 8 defenders 1 in midfield and 1 up top

  • 10 Ketsbaia9 // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    It’s all Mike Ashley’s fault for not signing the players we needed in the summer. If we had signed 5 decent players last summer Demba Ba would’ve signed a new contract. I feel sorry for Cisse, he can’t play up front on his own. We need to sign 3 new strikers in the summer. Gouffran isn’t first team material, he should be on the bench at the most.

    God help us if Simpson has to play at right back on thursday.

  • 11 toonLYF // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    anyone know anything about Debuchy’s return date? He’s the player we’re missing the most.

  • 12 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    @toonLYF
    agree with that at least Debuchy doesn`t keep backing off

  • 13 Big Pappa Cissé // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Why did Pardew have to say we were safe FFS. We need 6 points from our next two games and for our players to dig deep and fight for NUFC. Hopefully we will have a few players back for Fulham and we can get back on the winning trail.

    Also what was Pardew doing putting Gosling on ?

  • 14 gazzaforever // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    i disagree, the player we miss the most is benny, apart from, was I wrong when I warned you that gouffran was just an average, at best, player?

  • 15 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    I still think a new coach would help, French if possible, out of work , even a short term contract…… Who though….My mind has gone Blanc.

    Pards would block this though, maybe understandable. … I just think there is more to get from these players in the offensive third. Pards has not really got a great cv for attacking football.

  • 16 toonLYF // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    nah, no way do we miss Ben Arfa more than we miss Debuchy. You don’t realise how important it is for defenders to have good distribution and to not panic in possession around the box. Time after time today Simpson got the ball, and then gave it straight back away to a City player in a dangerous position. I’m not saying it would’ve changed the outcome, but if Debuchy was playing, he would’ve relieved the danger to greater effect and perhaps we could have settled into the game a bit better. I feel City targeted Simpson today.

  • 17 santonthenewmaldini // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Ferguson got another assist from a corner yesterday and scored a peach of a free kick….The boy is doing well in the championship which is more physical than the premier

    Thing is he never looked bad for us always tried we just never gave him the ball a boy who can deliver a cross like he can should always get a proper chance with us especially when you see our other wingers

    I can actually see us turning over Benfica over there as we will play a different team and will probably be 2 physical for them will be a 1 nil victory for us with them hardly getting a shot and us scoring with 1 or 2 shots

  • 18 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Nah Debuchy for me, he is actually better than i thought he was and offers in both defence and attack

  • 19 Sack Llambias // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    @7
    Can anyone please translate into English !!

  • 20 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Simpson and Ober really are poor players and to play them together on the right today was a really poor decision

  • 21 toonLYF // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    daztoon – Debuchy is an outstanding player like, the best of the new signings imo

  • 22 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    bambams hows blancs CV?
    i must admit i don’t know anything about his managerial record?

  • 23 ToonDownSouth // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Gouffran is average now is he?

    *face palm*

  • 24 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    @toonLYF
    i agree hadn`t really seen him that much shame we didn`t go the extra mile in the summer to land him.I don`t think we would be in this position now if we had

  • 25 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    toondownsouth supposedly anita gouff and sissoko are useless to some posters 2day?!! oh and cisse!
    all pardews fault ofcourse :)

  • 26 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    @manxpie
    You already know i aint pro Pardew against Swansea away we wern`t at the races but Pardew was having a right go at the players.Which i thought hang on maybe i`d been to harsh as it worked.Second half we played em off the park and were unlucky to lose.Today it was a matter of time before they scored we backed off so much and the man did nothing to get em going.He gave up as soon as they scored

  • 27 Footballwatch // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    If you wish you can watch the game in full or its highlights on http://www.footballwatch.net/team/137

  • 28 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    @manxpie.

    Other than doing an internet search I cant say….. The reason I have put him up is after a conversation myself and a colleague had about four months ago with a current French Toon player who said his knowledge of football was the best he had come across. I am sure Ginola also did an article on him a while ago.

    The football he had the French playing when he was manager was great, I am sure they went almost twenty games without a loss.

    I just think he would be a great choice not just brcause we have French players but he had played at all levels, managed to a high level and SAF even touted him as a future manure manager. Mainly though I think he would come to the Toon.

  • 29 JAMSHA // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    HAPPI EASTER LAD’S…. HOPE ALL GOES WELL FOR US FROM.NOW ON

  • 30 AndyMac // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    “Manchester City might have lost their title but they have not lost their mettle. Roberto Mancini’s side were simply too good for Newcastle and put in the kind of performance that saw them triumph last May. Sadly for Mancini, they have not done it often enough this time around.”

    That’s because they only play Clueless’s Newcastle twice a season :-( What is it with Pardwho ? He surely couldn’t hope to defend for 90 minutes against a side bursting with quality players.

    His selected team told Citeh “Ayeup lads this is a practice game”

    LET US HOPE THE PENNY HAS FINALLY DROPPED WITH CLUELESS THAT OBERTAN IS NOT A BPL PLAYER !!!!!!

  • 31 Ketsbaia9 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Prefer Marveaux instead of Cabaye and Gouffran.

  • 32 JAMSHA // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    holy shit jst 3 pts above :-(

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Sack Llambias,
    Point taken, I’m looking back at that and can only barely understand what I was trying to say.

  • 34 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    If Pardew isn’t sacked at the end of the season this team will never fulfill it’s potential. I actually said this last season and said I’d happily give him one more chance given the teams high finish.

    Not only have we gone backwards but there is a real chance that we could be relegated. Make no bones about it, we have nothing but difficult games left and today was reminiscent of the relegation season and a return to pre Chelsea performances.

    Pardew should not be able to hide behind the Europa League and if (and it is a big if) we manage to stay up, he should go.

    We have been simply awful. Blame injuries all you want but we are a terrible football team that plays not to lose rather than plays to win.

    I never expected anything against Man City other than a bit of decent play and a team showing no fear.

    Where is the Pardew of a few weeks ago saying ‘we’re safe’. I’ll tell you where, he is once again contradicting himself and leading us to oblivion.

    As usual I will probably find many of you disagreeing and pointing out the usual things, but when you really and honestly look at our team, a full and fit starting 11, do you think Pardew is the man to bring the best out of those players?

    I don’t. Never have and never will.

    Many of you think we will bring in a bad manager, but it seems to me that Ashley and even Llambias are learning more and more about the game of football and surely they will see that a good manager is the most important thing you need on a match day. Someone who can out think opponents, bring the best out of the team and go out to win every single game.

    Pardew is the weak link and my pessimistic self honestly thinks we could be down in the bottom 4 come the last game of the season.

    There are so many talented foreign managers out there that could not only bring the best out of the team but help the players realise their potential.

    Pardew s a charlatan convincing many toon fans and probably even the board he is the man.

    If we stay up and we sign PEA or Belhanda or Sakho or who ever will we see a toon title challenge. On paper yes, but in reality no.

    Again blame injuries all you want but even with them a team as good as ours should have been top 12 minimum. The rest is down to shoddy tactics, poor management and out of form players. All roads lead to Rome and Pardew has the biggest villa in the city.

    Peace out you lot, see you in the Summer.

  • 35 alex84 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Id like us to play with more tempo, when is possession and when not, we need to press teams higher up the pitch, especially at home, look what a high tempo pressing game does, Southampton for example, that’s how they play since the manager has come in and it is working, Liverpool do it as well, we sit back to much, I don’t think Pards needs to be sacked like some muppets on here think, but just tweak the style a bit

  • 36 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    bambams to be honest its not hard to pick the best players from the best teams in the world for your country?
    i was more interested in to your knowledge of picking him from his club achievements but obviously not lol

  • 37 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    @alex84….
    A few weeks ago I posted almost word for word what you have above.

    I also think Pardew is a decent bloke who maybe got carried away with the LMA award last season.

    The big question is who tells Pards he needs to tweak the style of play?

    Its a difficult one and this is why I have suggested bringing in a new coach which would not look as though Pards is not the main man.

    We will not be sucessfull playing this style though. Imo

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Beattie,
    Back at last one of my top five favourite bloggers, sacking Pards isn’t an option unfortunately for our stubborn business minded owner.

  • 39 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    A leopard cannot change his spots.

    Pardew in his career as a footballer and manager has reveled in negative football and tactics.

    He found temporary success but is always found out. He doesn’t have the ability to tweak his tactics. Some managers just don’t have the ability. Pardew is the Obertan of football management. We wan’t him to do good, we see he has something, but he will never make it.

    Look at our remaining fixtures and tell me we’ll get to 40 points. I can’t see where 7 points are coming from. My predictions in brackets.

    vs Fulham @ home (D 1 pt)
    vs Sunderland @ home (D 1pt)
    vs WBA away (L 0pt)
    vs Liverpool @ home (L 0pt)
    vs West Ham away (D 1pt)
    vs QPR away (L 0pt)
    vs Arsenal home (L 0pt)

    That’s 35 points for us in my opinion.

  • 40 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    @manxpie

    I am sure he won the French league with Bordeux which helped him get the national job.

    Sorry fella thats about the best I can offer. However he is rated highly by at least one current toon player when he was asked directly which manager he would love to play for at the toon if Pards got the England job (it was a while ago )

  • 41 alex84 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Bam Bams, I think the suggestion of bringing in a coach who he can work with on this will help, as the players do seem to like playing for him as mention by some love his man management, I just feel we have the players(when fit) to play this way, the gap between midfield to attack is huge, we never seem to overload in the oppositions final 3rd, we need to play with intensity, it just seems…slow and direct.

  • 42 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    @alex84

    Totally agree ….

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    The nicest thing I can say about Pards apart from his double award last season is that he more likeable than Tony Pullis or Steve Bruce and more affordable than someone better.

  • 44 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    beattie so you think we’ll not win against sunderland and fulham at home? wow we’ve missed your positive outlook on the toon!!
    you might as well have stayed away man we’ll beat the both of them!

  • 45 yo-yo // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    bambams

    You’re not the only one who thinks we need new coaching inputs. I don’t know if the team still gets coached defence four days and attack one day or that’s just a doomsayer myth from a while ago to get us out of our abysmal defensive record but we are still woeful at the basics. We still have a dire goals against tally so the current system isn’t working well enough.
    We play pass and stand still not pass and move – I think that is the weakest part of our game. I have no problems with how Pards sets up the team 90% of the time – there are loads of complications we know little of – but I do agree we need a modern continental and not British style coaching. Metalist coach after we won said we set up like a continental side so we can do it.
    Tactically I think we ought to just follow the two goal cushion system that SAF gets his sides to play. You’re always vulnerable with a single goal lead and hitting a side twice helps psychologically too.

  • 46 Sack Llambias // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Beattie
    Your doing what you do best panicking. When times are difficult you need to keep a clear head and a rational approach. Our home games will see us through. Ise us with 42 points and this would include beating Fulham, mackems and drawing at worst with Liverpool. Reading QPR and mackems will be relegated. The Sunderland game at Villa Park could well decide the mackem’s fate. I see them losing.
    Who’s to say I am right and you are wrong? It’s just that I prefer to channel my energy into getting behind the team. The time for any recriminations will be after our fate in the Europa and Premier is decided. Incidentally my projections were done on the BBC predictor and are not random. Although undoubtedly biased.

  • 47 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    JFA

    I would love to think that perhaps maybe Ashley will see how close we have come to doom this season and perhaps make a move for a better manager.

    Take a Sports Direct store for an example. If the store isn’t hitting the profit margins that are demanded then a review may single out the manager as the reason. If the manager isn’t pushing the team and hitting targets then they will be replaced by someone who can.

    Also if Ashley is business minded then surely he will see how a player like Tiote has gone from a £15 million player to a £5 million player in a season.

    Whats more important to Ashley a manager who can make a £3 million player look like a £15 million one or a manager who makes a £3 million player look like his original value.

    If Ashley wants to turn over a profit, challenge the big boys in order to hit the highest financial rewards and bring in cheap imports to sell at higher costs then surely he must see Pardew isn’t the man.

    Also if Ashley want’s to challenge for silverware, have a team playing attractive football and have the grandeur to attract the best young talent from all over the world then surely he must see Pardew isn’t the man.

    We all know that a manger like Pochettino at Southampton will be earning much less than Pardew and look at their football since he took over. If he took over from Pards in January we’d be top 10 by now.

    They are everything I wish us to be. Yes they are in the same dog fight we are in but they seem they have a much bigger fight in their team and a lot more quality.

    When did that happen.

    For me the 3 worst teams in the bottom half in terms of footballing quality are Newcastle United Reading and Sunderland Athletic.

    I think Reading are down and I also think Villa will capitulate, then it’s either us, QPR, Sunderland or Wigan, I think personally the derby is the biggest derby in living memory and will seal the fate of one of our teams.

  • 48 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    @yoyo….

    Well said fella.

    Spot on.

  • 49 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    jail did you expect us to win today?
    i think we will see a much stronger team on thur and on sunday

  • 50 Thump // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    It was never going to be an easy game today but if we’re going to lose, we need to lose well. We didn’t even capitulate, we just didn’t bother showing up.

  • 51 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Do i expect us to beat Fulham yes, will we beat them depends if we turn up.Today i saw zero passion even Saylor didn`t look bothered today

  • 52 Ketsbaia9 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Cabaye is overrated and doesn’t run with the ball. I’d take £20m for him in the summer. I’d also let Tiote go for £20m. It’s worth paying £9m for Alderweireld as we desperately need him. Douglas is also needed on a free.

  • 53 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Sack Llambias

    It’s a choice to be positive or negative but it isn’t a choice to deny the truth, and that truth is we haven’t been good enough.

    Granted I should be positive and optimistic for the good of my health but all I have to go off is the results this season and the football I have seen.

    They offer me no reason to be positive.

    Manxpie

    It’s a derby against the mackems in a relegationdog fight. The pressure will be immense and anything could happen.

    As for Fulham they are a decent team and Jol could out think Pardew if he was in a coma. Fulham have one advantage, they are away and have nothing to lose.

    We’ll see but it’s just an honest assessment.

    I shall leave before my negativity causes more unrest.

    All the best everyone and we shall see what happens. Regardless of whether we float or sink, we’re in the boat together.

  • 54 Craborumtoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    I agree with Daztoon, no one could be bothered, maybe Jonas?? But only him. I really do fear for us if we don’t win against Fulham!!! The scum game will be huge too.

  • 55 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Beattie – A good post, and one i agree with. I do however believe that Pardew has his abilities, namely to man manage and run a tight ship.
    In that case I really think we should be relieving him of his footballing duties, such as coaching and matchday tactics.
    I think it would work well if he was to be a general manager of sorts and to leave all coaching to some new top coaches. Then the team is picked on the basis of what all the coaches and Pardew believe is the best team and on a matchday all decisions are made by majority vote of the coaches and Pardew.
    He should not be a coach or a tactician, more of a general overseer and someone who keeps it all together.

  • 56 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    @manxpie
    Can i asked did you expect us to beat Wigan,Reading,swansea

  • 57 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    I also think we should have sissoko alongside cabaye, as they would compliment each other well. Cabaye can pass and move whilst sissoko can break up play and run with the ball. He is utterly wasted in the no man’s land area behind cisse at the moment.

  • 58 Ketsbaia9 // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    All we can do is make sure we stay up and try and win the europa cup. We need at least 5/6 first team signings in the summer (2CB, 1 midfielder and 3 strikers).

  • 59 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    btw did any1 see sissoko’s interview about the difference between french and english footy?
    he said french football was more tacticle and defensive where as english football was all about attacking!
    so where did he learn that then obviously not from pardew hey??

  • 60 Sack Llambias // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Beattie
    Good man! I see us winning the Derby comfortably simply because our big/star players will really be up for it and the crowd at SJP will be going mental. We’ll put a number of nails in the Mackem coffin! They might just never really recover. With two consecutive home games we could already be as good as safe and can concentrate on the Europa.
    Thursday will see us score and maybe lose by the odd goal. Again. The crowd will have a big part to play on the 11th. I k ow it’s difficult for you because your a pessimist by nature but keep the faith. Please!

  • 61 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    yeah but the player`s today had no idea what they were doing tactical or in defence and a clueless manager who just stood and watched it happen

  • 62 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    daztoon yeah i did but wigan was a right off we would have won but for the refereein and were unlucky against swansea n reading but we beat chelsea n spurs was that just luck then n nothing to do with pardew?

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Manx,
    I didn’t tbh, but I predicted yesterday thst panic buttons would be hit if we did lose which a Wigan win would have prevented, can’t blame anyone having a go at the manager but it’s not going to do any good after that injustice the other week the last pkace we needed to play was at the free spending league cahampions.
    Beattie, , it’s banging ya head against the wall an owner pigheaded enough to change a stadium name, upset two NUFC legends sack a manager popular with the fans and put a geet big red, blue and white sticker on our roof isn’t going to sack a guy he’s given an eight year contract.

  • 64 moonraker // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    To any Toon fans who haven’t seen the match and are feeling a bit low about the score; don’t watch the highlights later or else you’ll be suicidal by the time you go to bed :-( Freakin pathetic I didn’t think there could be such a gulf in class between 2 PL clubs!!!

  • 65 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    @manxpie
    we lost to spurs

  • 66 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    manxpie – so you you’re not going to bother factoring luck into the equation against Fulham and Sunderland? and you’ll say the same if we do lose to them both due to luck? ”oh yeah i thought we would win, but luck saw to it that we didn’t, so that shouldn’t really count” … and bam we’re relegated.

  • 67 Mister Tuff // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    moonraker @64 -you make a good point to remind us all that we are probably not as good as we think we are -even bearing in mind that we still need further recruits in the summer. We just do not seem to play as a team but a group of individuals.

  • 68 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    The way I see it is we could very easily lose to both Fulham and Sunderland, historically we struggle against Fulham and a relegation derby against Sunderland could be anybodies game as it will likely descend into a game of blood and thunder.

  • 69 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    We’ve been highlighting these issues for 2 years almost, we have the players but they just don’t click properly. It needs to be diagnosed and rectified whether that’s Pardew going or not.

  • 70 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    I think we are good enough we showed it v Chelsea but since then the passion and high tempo game has gone again we go back to counter attacking mainly Sissoko going on a 50 yard run

  • 71 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    thats 1 game!
    where did sissoko understand the attack system?
    your hatred for pardew n the same for catchy n rotunda is laughable!
    can’t wait for laudrup’s second season! i mean he’s not gonna get 5th is he?

  • 72 daztoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    @manxpie
    No mate your love for the guy is laughable you state if we lose its bad luck or bad ref decision or injuries.You call people for slagging player`s but do it yourself Simpson,Obertan your just blinkered

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Mister tuff,
    I never got the chance to watch the game today, I listened on Newcastle radio it didn’t sound good, I hope the rot that saw us having our worst ever PL run hasn’t set back in.

  • 74 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    agree jail lol i expected the same and daz i think u will find we beat them at the start of the season and very unluckily lost in the 2nd fixture but played very well!
    and btw we’ve got a good record vs fulham at home

  • 75 Magpies-till-d3ath // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Beattie25- We’re strong at home! Like…..we’ve won every Premier League game at home since all the frenchies came in! It’s our away form that has us where we are, like, we shouldn’t be losing to teams like Wigan, Fulham and Stoke(when 1-0 up). I’m 98% sure we’ll beat both the scum and Fulham at home, and if we play well, we can no doubt get results against the Bin Dippers and the Arseholes! Although, next year our squad has to be stronger. Obertan, Gosling, Simpson and Williamson all need to f off! We need to replace them with younger players AND get those three “purples”that we are supposedly chasing. Btw, I watched Aubameyang tonight, and I can honesty tell you all that he is CLASS! He scored after 8 minutes tonight and that’s something like his 10th goal in 9 games! Would be over the moon if we get him, but big clubs will come calling for him!

  • 76 county down magpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Hands up anyone who honestly thought we’d have gotten something out of this game??

    It was a terrible day at the office no doubt but this result WILL NOT be the one that condemns us. We need a couple of good performances and wins against Fulham and the scum and we’ll be grand. Keep the faith and support the lads.

    And to Catchy Robin et al you only seem to come on here when we lose to spout your bile. No sign of you when we do well. If that’s what you think supporting your team means then you should funk off and support manure or the unwashed, we don’t need that $hit on here.

    HWTL

  • 77 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Last post promise.

    I think Pardew has the skill to be an assistant manager at a massive club. If he was in charge of discipline, man management and towing the company line in accordance with board expectations then as an assistant you couldn’t ask for a better man.

    However managers are in charge of tactics, team set up, media duties, set plays and motivation. Pardew is not a manager.

    I would love Ed to run a poll asking hypothetically ‘If we stay uo, should we stick with Pardew.’.

    I’d be interested to know how many fans think he should remain our manager.

    It would be suicide to do a Reading and fire him now, but in the Summer if we stay up would you have him sacked or kept on?

    Not just for this seasons results, but taking everything into account during his tenure so far, where do you see the future of this club under Pardew?

    If you honestly think we could challenge for top 6 under Pardew then fair enough but for me he has got a very good to excellent squad playing poorly each and every week.

    Head against a wall as JFA points out is very true as no matter what the individual says, Ashley is in charge of the pistol.

    However if you could give Pardew the bullet would you? A club this size should have learnt from our relegation and it seems we have fallen into the same trap again.

  • 78 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Oneil sacked !

    If they get Blanc I wont be happy

  • 79 gazzaforever // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Dont bother argue with manxpie, wasting your time.

  • 80 Graeme // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    scum have sacked Agent O’Neil – how unsporting is that then?? Do they reckon a new manager at this stage is going to rescue them?

    As long as they stay below us, where they belong, I’ll be happy enough. Wouldn’t really want to see them relegated as it will cost us a good 6 points!!

  • 81 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    daztoon have a look at my previous posts and tell me where i’ve slagged players apart from ober?
    i said against anzhi that it was the final straw for me for ober and simmo i’ve always said he gives 100% but isn’t good enough !
    and as for “my love for pardew” what happened last season then daztoon was it all luck and great decisions for us??

  • 82 Mister Tuff // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Evening Jail – it was a poor game – whilst we were still at 0 -0 I thought we might have a chance of getting a point -but then City seemed to be getting closer and closer -then the capitulation (expected really if I’m honest with myself). I think that Percy clearly has a vision to hold things back for the first game in Lisbon -and that he was probably prepared to forsake this game -and then hopefully pick up a couple of wins against “the lesser” sides in the coming weeks. If we progress in the EL and retain our PL status -nobody will give a toss I suppose. The plan/tactics really are on a knife edge.

  • 83 noladonna // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    all the signings still have alot to prove think debuchy and mbwia are showing very good signs that they are ready to become premier league players anita gouffran are the 2 im most worried about anita has shown very little really for 6 mil i expect better

    gouffran has pace yes but when have we seen it used effectively? not often could be another obertan

    sissoko is being played in the wrong position he does not have the right attributes for this cam position hope pardew realizes this soon but probably not knowing percy took him forever and some unfortunate circumstances at wigan for us to finally see santon pushed further forward

    i still think we are gonna stay up thou its gonna be a nevry end to the season thou some of the teams around us are in shocking form

    match of the day is gonna hurt tonight

  • 84 maximan23 // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    sunderland sack manager

  • 85 Bambams // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Seems a strange time to sack him. It has not really worked for Reading.

    Ah well…….

  • 86 Toon Tang // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    so scumderland have parted company with agent oniell eh. there struggle were nowt to do with the manager, they’ve just got a whole host of shite players.

    good luck to ‘em trying to find a leader who can mould that bunch into a decent side

  • 87 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    gazzaforever why’s that then?

  • 88 Toon Tang // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    ever get the feeling we keep getting these overseas bargain players because of injury doubts or maybe something in the medicals that says they are very prone.

    we never seem to have a decent run of games with the whole squad unscathed. Im starting to doubt we ever will.

  • 89 Tommyy // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    O’neill is a has been manager of a past era, he, very much like Pardew, has failed to evolve with the way the game is played effectively these days.

  • 90 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    wow thats the final nail in the scums coffin
    o’neil didn’t look comfertable in his interview must’ve known

  • 91 toon252 // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Nolandonna

    Gouffran another Obertan? What planet are you on..

    1) He’s playing out of position, he played as a lone striker at Bordeaux for past few seasons. He is a striker, he said it himself in his 1st interview, also said he’d give 100% wherever pardew wanted.

    2) He’s had 2 bad games since he come, in the others he has been one of the most dangerous. What can you expect when he is an attacking player having to track back and defend constantly.

    I do agree on Sissoko though, clearly should be playing deeper and then he can get more of the ball and drive at the opposition.

  • 92 wreker16 // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Agent oneil has been discovered! Agent is being extracted as we speak! Possible replacement candidates are being considered

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    And the amount of people that wanted the milk cup winning bespectabled Irishman to fritter away our meagre savings.

  • 94 stretchintoon // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Cisse is one of the most overatted strikers in the prem…infact he’s shite,he’s on par with obertan…replace the pair of them & tiote & guti for that matter

  • 95 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    @gazzaforever please expand?

  • 96 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Much rather have Cisse than the free scoring Sessignon

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Unbelievable,
    Sunderland in talks with former midfielder Lee Clark as next boss.

  • 98 Toon Tang // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    unbelievable Geoff

  • 99 Toon Tang // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    next couple of games are chuffin huge make no bones about it

  • 100 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Toon Tang,
    Very unbelievable and don’t call me Geoff.

  • 101 Ibizatoon - back by no demand // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    Fuming o’neils been sacked. We are defintly going down now!!!

  • 102 Graeme // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    I hear Owen Coyle and Steve Kean are favourites for the scum job – both available, cheap, do what they’re told lol

  • 103 santonthenewmaldini // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    If Sunderland can sack O Neill Pardew will know his position is under threat they could be in total disarray by the time we play them as they don’t have a team who can play any different from the way they are the now

    At least we won’t get relegated now ha ha

  • 104 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    jail is that true?
    plz let it be true hahahahaha
    lets hope he brings out his old shirt the smb 1 :)

  • 105 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Manx,
    Sorry I’m half cut and just made it up, but I bet Clarky would love it to take them down, Geordie legend.

  • 106 Jail for Ashley // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Daffy,
    Haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, wha’s ya Steevie Bruooce.

  • 107 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Don’t just blame Cisse for todays capitulation.
    Crazy tactics
    Cisse cannot play up front on his own
    Every time Elliot pumped the ball long to Cisse even if he did win the ball there was no-one within 30 yards of him – totally isolated

    Our team/manager should look at a vid of the game and learn how to move off the ball find space to receive a pass – NOT FU**IN standing still after passed the ball.

    Totally out played out thought OUT Everything

  • 108 PAULNUFC // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    I think norwich are also in big trouble . Them the filth plus Reading down for me .we will be safe but its going to be as close as it gets

  • 109 stuart no9 // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    this is where we could do our neighbors a big favor. why dont we give sunderland pardew – let peter beardsley take over till end of season- that way sunderland go down and we survive by the skin of our teeth and take our time to find a decent manager who will get the team playing for 90 mins for a change instead of the usual 45- that way everybodys happy, yes ?

  • 110 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    This will be very interesting.

    Those that sacked – QPR, Reading, Sunderland & Southampton

    Those that haven’t – Villa, Wigan, Newcastle, Norwich & Stoke

    Who is the braver? Who will stay up?!

  • 111 Marty-Toon // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Really hope Qpr n floppy buns go down,a couple of losses in a row for hem n they’ll be gone
    Reading are gone too but I think it’ll be Villa going with them

  • 112 Beattie25 // Mar 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    Problem is is that the bottom clubs are playing each other and thus will take and gain points off one another.

    For me it’s Villa, Reading and anyone from Scum, Us and QPR.

  • 113 TimKrulFan // Mar 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    I feel sorry for Marv what does he have to do for a start

  • 114 manxpie // Mar 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    why’s that a problem beattie??
    them playing each other is good for newcastle isn’t it??

  • 115 Toon Tang // Mar 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    geoff / jail , ya right, ba isnt getting a look in at chelsea. didnt even get a run out when they needed a goal in the remaining mins today.

    he will be crying in to his syrup tonight

  • 116 Marty-Toon // Mar 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Marveau didn’t get a game becaus of a tight hamstring
    AP was gonna us him as a sub but decided that there wasn’t any point after being a few goals down and I agree that it was better to rest him.
    Big mistake having Jonas as Lb,Anita shoulda been there
    Perch also shoulda been on as for that Obertan waste of space??
    What’s the story with someone that gives you so little getting on from the start in the PL?

  • 117 quakiesmag // Mar 31, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    This is the first time I’ve been on this blog and commented and I agree 100% with Beattie 25. I find some of Pardews player picks and tactics staggering Tiote 2 years ago was the best defensive midfielder in the prem now he’s a liability. Who with any football knowledge would play Tiote forward of Cabaye the only logical explanation is he can cause less damage that far forward.the less said about Obertan the better and Anita is lazy and needs a taxi to get him back in position quicker. Half the ground can see this why can’t Pardew




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