Premier League The Priority – We Must Reach Safety – Pardew


Newcastle will face Benfica in Lisbon on Thursday night in the first leg of the Europa League quarter-final tie, although we cannot let the Europa league rob us of any points in the Premier League.

vincent kompany etihad 4-0

Sissoko and Cisse challenge Vincent Kompany yesterday

Since the home defeat by Reading, the low point of our season, Newcastle have played eight league games, and we won three of the first four – but have since lost three of the last four – so we need to start getting more wins on the board.

Yesterday was our worst performance since the Reading game, and we also had seven top players – Krul, Debuchy, Haidara, Santon, Tiote, Coloccini and Ben Arfa – all missing, and only two or three of those will return in the next week.

It seems Tim Krul is fit again – and Davide Santon and Massadio Haidara could be fit to play on Thursday night.

But yesterday’s defeat at Manchester City has left us too close to comfort to the relegation zone, although we were helped today when Aston Villa lost 2-1 at home to Liverpool after being 1-0 up at the half.

We are 3 points ahead of Wigan and Aston Villa, and with a better goal difference – but some of the bottom teams are starting to pick up points, so we must help ourselves by winning games.

The next two home games against Fulham and Sunderland are simply massive – and two wins in those games should see us with some welcome breathing space.

Alan Pardew has talked about the Europa League and Premier League today to Sky Sports:

“We have done well in the Europa League, but it can’t detract from the Premier League.” “We have to make sure we are safe.” “We need two victories at least, and maybe a third or a fourth to get ourselves into a strong position.”

“The Europa League is going to put us under pressure, because we are missing some big players at the moment.” “But we didn’t do ourselves any favors against City because we were not aggressive enough.”

We expect to see Newcastle try to ensure we have a full house next Sunday against Fulham, because that is now such an important game for us – because th London side are only three points above us in the league – although they have two games in hand.

Fulham play QPR tomorrow, and maybe a draw would be the best result for Newcastle.

QPR are not going to reach safety by drawing games – they need wins, and a draw would keep Fulham within Newcastle’s reach, and we could gain three points on them next Sunday afternoon with a win.

And the real truth is we have to play a lot better than we did yesterday at the Etihad Stadium in that first half, where we were simply no match for City.

We have to start helping ourselves in the Premier League, and not have to depend on other sides losing – and also not let the Europa League be any distraction, and that seems to be the way the Newcastle manager is looking at things.

And maybe that’s after some prodding from Derek LLambias, reminding the manager of the £4B TV deal that starts next season for the Premier League, and that PL clubs could see up to a 70% increase in revenue from the league compared to what they get this season.

A relegation this season would be a complete and utter disaster for Newcastle United.

That’s our view – maybe a little negative on the Europa League side of things – what do you think?

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163 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 31, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #1

    Being dressed as a giant banana on the back of a pick up truck in Windsor safari park is too good for Ashley .

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  • Bambams

    Mar 31, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #2

    Well its a new thread. …..

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  • yo-yo

    Mar 31, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #3

    So we all agree we rolled over and Pardew says we were not aggressive enough – or committed whatever – so does that mean he hasn’t rollocked the players for not making the effort ?

    Not having Hairdryer, Santon or Debuchy etc was bound to make a difference but there is no excuse for lack of commitment – safety requires it..

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  • daztoon

    Mar 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #4

    Now he says we weren’t aggressive enough why didn’t he tell the players that after 10 minutes in.We don’t have a leader of any sorts on the pitch and a manager who is clueless as regards to taking the game to the opposition

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Mar 31, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #5

    @TADS

    I’m not calling for pardews head, but I will be if we get relegated or if we don’t improve next season.

    And I was just throwing in some names that I think could take over from pardew if he fails us

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 31, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #6

    LEAZES
    Fair play mate and I’m not in disagreement if the board want to look to change things in the summer, I’m sure most would understand, but personally I’d hope we aim a little higher than managers that have been knocking around England for a while
    Personally I’d be looking in Germany holland and Spain for a replacement coach as I think they play the brand of football that would get the most out of our team

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  • daztoon

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #7

    Pardew says that when we play an aggressive high tempo game we can beat anybody.then it’s even if we had all our players fit we still wouldn’t beat city.the high tempo game beat Chelsea and was unlucky at Manure and arsenal.So why do we play a slow boring negative game in 9 out of 10 games

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  • alex84

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #8

    Agreed Daztoon, the modern game is built on high tempo with or without the ball

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #9

    Barring the unthikable and being relegated I think Pardew deserves another chance with the right personnel,he was badly let down by his bosses last year and it would have been much fairer to judge him had the correct signings been made when we were on the crest of a wave rather than the relegation battle weve found our selves in.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #10

    yo yo

    from previous thread

    if that drivel is true how come he employed 4 managers in one season !!!!

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  • MacToon

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #11

    I expect us to stay up this season.
    When/if we do I then expect Pardew to be given some time to improve, probably Nov/Dec before the winter window. If we are bottom 10 then I’d expect consideration by our club to upgrade the position.
    If we’re top 10 then I’d expect him to stay in charge.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #12

    jail

    you’re never going to change the guy’s negative mindset. Give him Barca and he’d shut up shop after one goal. Plus it’ll always be someone else’s fault, never his when it inevitably goes wrong.

    There is nothing in his CV to suggest we will go anywhere with this guy.

    You hate ashley, I can’t stick pardew and I realise Ashley sanctioned his appointment.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #13

    jail

    you did the windsor park gag before and I told you it closed down years ago. It’s legoland now. Are you in need of new material?

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  • robin

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #14

    Is Pardew, having a laugh? As soon as Simpson, minces into team the games up. And what he hoped to achieve by taking Gouffran off for Gosling, who hasn’t played for ages. With Pardew, it just lurches from one disaster to another. There is no set system of play, yesterday they looked like they had never played together before. Its all down to Pardews naievty and lack of tactical nous. He will definitly be moved on this summer.

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  • BandB

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #15

    Anita is a classic case in point here. He’s a very modern footballer. But right now he’s bringing a water-colour brush to a paintball fight. That’s because he was bought for the wrong reasons…the buy him up and watch him appreciate in value principle. There’s a good article in the Telegraph today about how this policy has backfired. He was bought with no thought as to how he’d fit in. And as result, a person who flowered in an Ajax midfield suddenly isn’t good enough to keep Perch out of the team. And that’s down to the fact Perch fits our style. The style that’s got us where we are this season. I would never complain that we haven’t signed good players. But they’ve been thrown into an army in headlong, demotivated retreat, where the new signings don’t make up for the fact that some of our key players from last season seem to have bought out of the project.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #16

    can’t believe people slagging di matteo. Do you really think pardew could have done the same. Di matteo went defensive to win the CL. AP is defensive every match.

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #17

    @tads

    What’s the odds on us getting a French manager, since we seem to get all their players haha, maybe arsene winger could be a contender? 😉

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #18

    Band B

    spot on

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #19

    leazes

    it would make a lot of sense cos i can’t see the likes of M’Biwa, Debuchy, Cabaye, Benny and Sissoko hanging around to play pardew’s c..p tactics next season.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #20

    Robin

    I can only hope

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #21

    @rotonda

    I know, I bet m’biwa sissoko and debuchy have been disappointed with pardews negative tactics.

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  • bzak12

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #22

    Pardue’s master plan (solution to relegation):-
    Elliott
    R Taylor S Taylor Williamson Guti
    Perch Bigi
    Sammy Campbell Ferguson
    Shola
    Pardue’s solution to lost revenue
    Sales Krul £10 mil;
    Debucy £6
    Santon £10
    Hairdrier £ 2
    Mbwia £10
    Colo £2 or free saving £3 mil wages
    Tiotte £5
    Anita £5
    Marveaux £5
    Obertan £2
    Cabaye £20
    HBA £20
    Cisse £10
    Sissoco £10
    Goofy £2
    Plus £3 of rabble ie Gosling Vuckic Tav Abeid etc bringing in revenue of £120 million plus parachute payments.
    Plus savings of 75% of wage bill a master plan.
    No wonder fat Ash gave this man an eight year deal.
    Roll on relegation and a possible bonus!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #23

    Leazes

    I know at 51 I’m an old codger, but ever since I can remember NUFC fans have always wanted and demanded to see good attacking football.

    It used to be the highlight of my week but under Pardew I’ve stopped going to games and can barely be asked to watch them on sky / stream any more.

    With the great new players I thought here we go, but after an initial salvo, they too seem to have been ground down very quickly by Pardew’s bs tactics.

    What’s he going to blame next? It’s funny I don’t hear any other bottom 5 managers bleat on like he does.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #24

    Rotonda,
    I posted tht one at about 12:300 one morning and the thread changed straight away, I never post the same one twice so well spotted.
    Bzak,
    I really don’t get the gist of that post of yours.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #25

    Bzak
    Wtf are on about?

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  • bzak12

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #26

    Jail for Ashley
    Its probably just me but could Pardue have a master plan designed by Ashley to take us down and sell off our assets?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #27

    bzak

    no cos we would lose the massive tv money next season

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  • bzak12

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #28

    Jail for Ashley
    The 1st eleven are the side to attack the Championship with
    ie the unsellables!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #29

    Bzak,
    That first eleven couldn’t beat Brighton I’m not sure if attack is the right word.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #30

    I can totally understand the doom and gloom tody it’s normally like this after a loss anyway but our perilous position certainly isn’t helping two home wins and it’s an entirely different ball game, a deserved two points from Wigan and Swansea would have made things look a bit rosier as well.

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  • Vask

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #31

    I read a lot about Pardew’s previous record (one good, one bad season) surely he deserves the chance to see what he does in a third season for a club.

    I’m not convinced that Pardew wants to set up defensively. We’ve shown, at the end of last season and at times this season, that we can play some real sleek passing football. I think that the bad run of luck has hindered our positivity and made us shaky towards the end of matches and that’s when we start trying to hang on to the one goal advantage.

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  • BandB

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #32

    Some of them couldn’t beat Bedlington.
    Ashley wants a successful team, Bzak, and relegation is the last thing he wants. It’s just some of his imagined short cuts have turned into blind alleys, and managing footballers isn’t the same as selling shoes. He’s learning, I think. And getting rid of Pardew now is a huge risk. I just wish he didn’t sound like he hasn’t got a clue what he’s on about. One week he was on the radio saying the team was full of goals, and, I swear, the next time I tuned in he was wondering where the goals were going to come from. One week survival is “done”. Now, we are four wins from safety. It doesn’t fill you with confidence, and I’m sure it doesn’t fill the players with confidence either.

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  • Vask

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Also, we’ve broken the not being able to fight back stat. So that’s good. Just got to score from a corner and we’ll be on our way to glory. 😉

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  • Vask

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #34

    BandB Whatever Pards says to the press is the equivalent of about 2% of what he say’s to his players at training throughout the week. A player who listens to what is said in the press rather than what is said in the privacy of benton training ground is an idiot.

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  • JackButler

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #35

    We have

    Fulham (h)
    Sunderland (h)
    West Brom (a)
    Liverpool (h)
    West Ham (a)
    QPR (a)
    Arsenal (h)

    We need at least six points and could realistically get them in our next two games if the injury front eases

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  • robin

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #36

    Just been watching the local news, covering the mackems sacking of Oneil. They were asking who should be their new manager? And one guy replied “Houdini” priceless!

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  • Vask

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #37

    I reckon all of those games are winnable and at the very least not loseable. City done us good, depressing but not the premier league apocalypse that is being prophesied. Perfectly feasible to believe that we can take 12 points from the remaining fixtures.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #38

    Just looking at the table again and what a difference two points would have made and I think even Pardews most ardent critics have to admit we were desperately unlucky not to have come away from Swansea and Wigan with at least two points.

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  • estechco

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #39

    A few tweets suggesting the Mackems going for Di Canio next. What could possibly go wrong?

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  • beddersmag

    Mar 31, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #40

    Robin

    Didnt have much option but to play simpson imo and gouffran probably came off because he was offering little and had stopped closing people down which left us exposed on a couple of occasions.

    Bandb

    I was lead to believe anita could play anywhere across tbe midfield or eitha full back. Be has been in tried in numerous positions with little success due to an evolving injury list. Imo he cant tackle for toffee ruling him out at dcm, is too weak and not aggressive enough for fb, and doesnt offer enough in attack to dislodge any of our attacking players and play further up the pitch. Blaming pards is an excuse he just needs to improve in all areas next year

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