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Who Wants Andy Carroll In The Summer For £17M?

12:44 pm, Thursday, April 4th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 36 Comments

It looked like Andy Carroll was going to be a super-star when he left Newcastle for Liverpool in January of 2011, after Newcastle couldn’t resist the £35M up front in cool cash the Merseyside club foolishly (in retrospect) offered Mike Ashley. And Newcastle fans were very upset and my son Neil vowed he would never watch Liverpool again. :D

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Andy Carroll – career has stagnated in last two years

At the time it looked like the Gateshead youngster would be the new talisman for England, never mind Liverpool, so we had visions of seeing this lad become a great player for England – and he had left his home town club – and that would have been very painful for Geordie fans to take.

But fast forward just over two years, and Andy Carroll’s career has slumped badly, and he was shipped out on loan last August to West Ham, and he’s scored 5 goals in 17 appearances for the east London side – and he has lost his place in the England squad.

Add to that he has absolutely no future at Liverpool, since new manager Brendan Rodgers took over from Kenny Dalglish – and the former Swansea boss signed Chelsea’s Daniel Sturridge in January.

We suppose that Andy will report to Liverpool for pre-season training this summer, but Liverpool’s goal will be to sell Andy in the summer, for as much as they can get back on their £35M investment.

But the £17M they put on the 24 year-old’s head last summer seems way too much, and we don’t think any club is daft enough to pay that amount for the former Newcastle striker.

West Ham have the right to sign him for £17M, as part of the loan deal, but it’s hard to say the 6’3″ striker has been a huge success at the Hammers, who are also hardly a rich club.

Newcastle would be interested in the player but not at £17M, and we think £10M is about what Newcastle would be willing to pay to bring the Geordie back to his home town club, and that would still be a £25M profit on the deal over two and a half years.

Who said Mike Ashley didn’t know what he was doing from a financial viewpoint?

But Liverpool would be loathe to sell him back to Newcastle as the news would be that had squandered £25M in thirty months.

In the poll we conducted in late January, fans were split down the middle as to whether he was worth £10M to Newcastle.

Should Newcastle Sign Andy Carroll For £10M?

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We’ll have to wait until the summer and see what transpires – but if West Ham pull out of the bidding expect Newcastle ate least to make an offer in the region of £10M – but not much more than that.

If the Red cannot sell Andy in the summer we suppose he could go out on loan again for next season.

What do you think?

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36 responses so far ↓

  • 1 RonVanDam // Apr 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Will be a good additional to the team but not for 17m. More like 10m

  • 2 Ben3arfa // Apr 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    10m Yes.
    17m HELL NO

  • 3 Beattie25 // Apr 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Back him or sack him.

    If we sign Carroll we may as well sell Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Sissoko and buy players similar to Barton and Nolan.

    We need to either go all in on the manager or all in on the team. I know which one I think would be best.

    I’d rather spend £17 million on PEA, Lens and a new manager than Carroll.

  • 4 Alan Pas-de-clue // Apr 4, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    the thing is i think we need to set apart the transfer fee on this one. i dont think ashley has a kitty as such, but he seems to have some hindsight regarding andy carroll and may want him back. that isnt to say that if he is prepared to spend say 15m on him that the 15m would be invested somewhere else if we didnt get andy back

    i would love to see him back, not enjoyed watching newacastle as much as the barton carroll nolan days since the likes of laurent robert played.

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Apr 4, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Not good enough really. He has 4 goals this season and spent a long time injured the past couple years.

    Much rather we spend the money on a better striker from europe as the fee will be lower and we get more for our money.

    On form for the past 2 years, forgetting the 35mil paid (which was well over the top for a good 6 months in prem league, good not great) would you pay anymore than 3/4mil for him?

  • 6 Tommyy // Apr 4, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    It’s incredibly impressive that over 10 percent of the stadium fanbase has voted on this poll!
    This must be the largest independent football blog in the world, for a football club. If the powers that be want fan opinion then there’s nowhere better to come. As I’m sure they do.
    On Carroll, I voted no, but seeing us this season I think we need a rough and tumble Englishman in the team aswell as a foil for Cisse. So if I could do it again I’d say yes, but more out of necessity than choice.

  • 7 AndyNUFC // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Nobody think that his form and injuries are largley down to his greedy attitude – taking a huge contract elsewhere and obviously not training hard enough?

    Not worth the hassle for £10M, he’s a drinker with a big ego.

  • 8 Beattie25 // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    With Carroll, Nolan and Barton we were unattractive but hard to beat and we played with incredible passion. All the things Pardew wants for us now.

    Hughton did a better job with less money and his team played exactly the way wor Alan dreams about. If we are going to bring back Carroll I think we should bring back Hughton and just go full circle.

    I can understand why Pards was a more attractive option to Ashley at the time given Mike’s lack of footballing knowledge.

    However watching the team today is the same as 3 years ago minus the passion, minus the players to play that way and minus the ‘hard to beat’ function.

  • 9 Alan Pas-de-clue // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    if only we could engineer that grit desire and passion with our current crop of players :/ we need ‘a barton’ in the centre of the park

  • 10 JAMSHA // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    17 mil????make dat 7 mil yes plzzz + obertan

  • 11 JAMSHA // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    voted no.. 7 mil take it or leave it..we could get pea for 10mil

  • 12 Beattie25 // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    I think once Colo leaves Cabaye could be the man to give grit and determination if he manages to overcome his personnel problems.

    He does however need to be able to flourish under the stewardship of a better manager.

    For example if Laurent Blanc came in and made Cabaye captain and played him correctly we would see the best of Cabaye. He is the one player with grit, determination and fight. He needs to be more vocal though IMO.

    If not Cabaye then we need a Kompany, a Vidic, a Terry or a Gerrard but there isn’t many of them about.

    A big Eastern European would be a nice replacement for Colo. Any reccomendations?

  • 13 daztoon // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Under Pardew`s game plan yes.Under a high tempo pass and move manager no

  • 14 Alan Pas-de-clue // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    not a clue…vuckic is a big eastern european XD

  • 15 bennyboy // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Does anyone know what radio station I might be able to catch the match on please, I’m over in oz and not to sure….can’t seem to get it on tv

  • 16 Beattie25 // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Poor Vuckic. He is a great prospect but perhaps destined to be a nearly man.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Bennyboy

    Can watch online if you are able to?

    It not bbc5 live have it, check their website.

  • 18 tweaked // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    wont pay more than 5m for andy now, would rather invest that into getting atleast 2-3 players

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Beattie

    Cabaye scores and assists much more when higher up the field, much like he was end of last year in the stoke game at home. Set up cisse with a great pass then scored 2 himself by being near the box.

    He is wasted plying deep. Still does a decent job but nowhere near his best work.

  • 20 Scottiedog // Apr 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Don’t we get a % fee if Liverpool sell him on??

  • 21 bills-son // Apr 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Scottiedog – aye we do.

    But only if he goes for more than the £35M Liverpool paid.

    In other words – well be getting sweet FA.

  • 22 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    @Beattie

    I’d like Blanc but didn’t he have a fight with Ben Arfa at the world cup.

    I’d pay 10m for Carrol just to give us a bit fighting spirit and if AP is going to play long ball might as well have a big striker

  • 23 geordieracer1980 // Apr 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Fair enough Beattie, I wasn’t a fan of Roeder, some of the games under him were really poor and I always felt he wasn’t a strong leader. Good player for us in his day, but in terms of management, pretty damn dire. I think we played better under Pardew the 2nd half of last season than at any time under Roeder.

    On tonights game, I think we could be in for a very, very tough night. We struggled both home and away vs. Maritimo, and Benfica are in a different class altogether for them. There was a coloured chap for Maritimo who ran us ragged and scored the equaliser against us at St. James Park. If we stuggled against his movement and footwork, then Cardoza, Aimar and the other South Americans Benfica have will really put the pressure on us. I think it will end 3-0 or 3-1 to them. 3-1 wouldn’t be the end of the world because at St. James it will be a different proposition altogether.

  • 24 Graeme // Apr 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    I doubt there is ANY team in the Premier League that would be willing to pay £17 million for AC – he just doesn’t have the pedigree to justify that sort of fee.

    The dippers were royally screwed by MA and need to get over it. They can either keep him, use him when and where they can while paying his rather inflated salary – or, they can accept a “Realistic” fee, based on his current ability and move on with life.

    They way its going, they could possibly ruin him as a player while paying handsomely for the privilege.

  • 25 veto // Apr 4, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    whats witht all the talk of a new manager ?
    doesnt anybody know how mike works by now ?
    padrew is here for the long haul

  • 26 Bambams // Apr 4, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    I think he is a decent player but not one that I would say is worth more than 6 million given his record not just on the pitch but also off the pitch.

    I would rather we bought a fleet footed firing finisher, PEA could be that player or just wait and see who Carr had planned.

    We just need to hope benny can stay fit next season for the through balls onto a new striker or cisse.

    Imo

  • 27 ronjohno // Apr 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    ITV4 7.30 pm

  • 28 Ericles // Apr 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Well expressed on all points Beattie25.

  • 29 TB95 // Apr 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    He’s still got 3 years on his Liverpool contract, but either they sell him or they loan him out for another season. Time on that contract is ticking away though, so I expect Liverpool might just accept any offer they get above a certain price – £10million might do it. I doubt there are many clubs out there who’d want to buy him at that price anyway. But Andy could be a success at Newcastle :D and we’d have made a healthy profit regardless, so we have nothing to lose?

  • 30 Sazzer // Apr 4, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    There are few deals that I would do with Carroll if I was in charge but 17m is not one of them. There are few players that would be worth splashing out 17 m on but Carroll is not one of them.

  • 31 Sazzer // Apr 4, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    TB95
    We lose opportunity to buy other players for that amount of money.

  • 32 karasu // Apr 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    I would love to bring the Geordie home for 7m. I reckon he can do Shola’s job (hold-up target man) better than Shola can.

  • 33 danuneek // Apr 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    NO WAY. Not even for £10m. I can’t stand hoofball and that’s all we’ll be playing with him in the team. Lets move forwards and not backwards. We need to start playing proper possession football. I’m fed up with watching us sit back and letting teams dominate. We have some good passers in the team, Cabaye, Anita, Marveaux, Sissoko, Benny etc… enough quality to keep the ball. I would love Laudrup as manager!

  • 34 numba9 // Apr 4, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    GAMEIRO

  • 35 Sav // Apr 5, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    I’ve forgotten what its like to score a goal from a corner, If he’d help us do that, 10 million would be repaid quick enough. Mind you, we had no corners against Benfica and they had umpteen, which tells its own story. We are wingless wonders in Europe at the moment.

  • 36 vanderlee // Apr 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    I’d have him back for £17m and I’d bite their hand off at 10.
    We need to have different tactics as required and reverting to a 4-4-2 with Big Andy along side Cisse for some games like Stoke, Wigan and West Ham would be a good option.
    Also, we have scored no goals from set-pieces this season and he would give us a threat from corners and free-kicks.
    Also, there is no reason why he cannot be the middle man in a 4-3-3 as he can hold it up and bring others into play. I would like to see him with Cisse and Ben Arfa alongside with Gouffran and Marv as options.
    Finally, it would be good to get an english man through the door and a geordie at that. I like our French contingent but would like it balanced.




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