Have Newcastle Bid For Congolese Striker?


There is news in the Daily Express today that an English club has bid for 27 year-old Anderlecht striker Dieumerci Mbokani, and while we’d be surprised if it was Newcastle – you just never know.

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Dieumerci Mbokani – Anderlecht’s 27 year-old striker

Newcastle are linked because we need at least one new striker in the summer to replace the departed Demba Ba, whom we failed to replace in January, after he had left for Chelsea, and we were linked with Mbokani last November.

Dieumerci’s agent Christophe Henrotay has now said that an offer for the player was made for his client in January, but it was turned down:

“Mbokani is having a great season and I can confirm interest from clubs across the continent.” “Juventus, Inter Milan and Fiorentina are all keen on him but nothing has been discussed as yet.”

“I can confirm that there was a bid from an English club in January. I will not reveal the name of that club.”

The first thing to realize is not to take anything seriously that an agent says, because they are simply trying to drum up interest and news on their client, so he can be sold and they can get paid.

Mbokani was brought in from Monaco in the summer of 2011 to Anderlecht to replace Romelu Lukaku, who joined Chelsea and is now on a season long loan deal at West Brom.

Mbokani has a very good goals record at Anderlecht, and in 45 games has scored 31 goals for the side, but how he would perform at the highest levels in the English Premier League is an open question.

Dieumerci is 27, so he may be too old for Newcastle, and he stands 6’1″ tall and has played 21 times for the DR Congo with 11 goals and was born in Kinshasa, Zaire (now called DR Congo).

We’d be very surprised if Dieumerci Mbokani arrives on Tyneside in the summer, but nevertheless it is possible we bid for him in January, since we also bid for both Loic Remy of Marseilles (he joined QPR), and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang of St. Etienne, who remains a Newcastle target in the summer.

What do you think?

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192 comments so far

  • G

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #1

    Cant say I watch much of that league. Is he any good?

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #2

    Toon Prodigy…

    Lost our star striker.. End of last season Cisse was called our start striker..

    Collo played in nearly every game pre january

    Injuries happen, we bought in 5 players in January – We’re still in a relegation fight..

    SO it’s not the manager fault that the same team from last season, with 6 new players, losing 1 player, is in a relegation battle? It’s not his fault that we have lost games from winning positions due to bad calls tactically..

    It’s not his fault that he encourages a long ball out of defence..

    It’s not his fault that he plays the same 4-5-1 formation ever week against every team.

    It’s not his fault that our defence plays such a deep line that there is a constant 60 yard gap between the back 4 and Cisse

    It’s not is fault that he plays Ben Arfa on his return from 4 months out on a below freezing plastic pitch in Moscow – May aswell have took an axe to his hamstring himself..

    It wasn’t his fault that he has been relegated or sacked at his previous 3 clubs?

    It’s generally just not his fault

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  • Alan Pas-de-clue

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #3

    a great striker who has been in form for most of the season. very similar playing style to demba ba, reminds me of lukaku (albeit without the potential). only problem is he isnt the most mobile.

    but with pardews hoofball he would be a good acquisition

    this guy is very similar to bony without the monumental price tag

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #4

    Bit like Batafembi Gomis in his playing style.

    Would be a step up from Ameobi.

    Would much rather have Mathias Suarez. Now that would be a signing.

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  • G

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #5

    If it’s a choice, I rather still hope we are in for PEA, even if he is being linked with other higher profile teams.

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  • bzak12

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #6

    toon252 Class post but you missed out the 16 defeats out of 31 matches, in our relegation season we lost 18.
    Reckon there are more than another 2 defeats on the way!

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  • Klatoon

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #7

    Good strength, excellent holdup, decent finishing but no pace.

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  • eplforecast

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #8

    This dude looks like DROGBA

    We should sign him

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #9

    Mathias Suarez just behind Cisse would be a deadly duo, even if Pardew was in charge.

    He was meant to join CSKA for £12 mill but failed a medical.

    I reckon we could get him for about £6 mill due to that and is certainly worth the punt.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #10

    beattie

    I wasn’t meaning that winning 50% from our last 8 games was us turning the corner….it might be a short term thing…but it could also be the sign of long term improvement, we just have to wait and see.

    I think the points we have got 50% from last 8 games is more important than wins/losses/draws in that time…its points not wins or losses that get you a place in the table and if that is over the season 57 points is a solid return.

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  • Alan Pas-de-clue

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #11

    we arent playing any worse football than last season, our luck has just levelled out over two seasons rather than 1

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #12

    Transfer

    I see what your saying but you get 0 points from a defeat.

    57 points over a season would mean winning 19 and losing 19.

    A loss on Sunday would reduce your percentage further a win would take it higher. All I’m looking at is 7 points to get to 40 with 7 games left, and I’m not sure if we can either do that.

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #13

    * either? even

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #14

    Pas-de-clue

    Nail on head.

    Our whole focus is on being compact and stealing the odd goal.

    We got lucky last year, we’re unlucky this year but ultimately we are a poor team that relies on the rub of the green.

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  • stuart no9

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #15

    beattie – or have teams just sussed us out this season and pards dosnt know how to combat that,????

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #16

    Toon 252,
    Ashleys a great owner ? Well he hung out the manager you despise to dry last summer and then bought in five players after the rot had truly set in as a panic measure against that golden pot next
    season, and because of that whopping 11M net spend in January a lot of people tend to over look that five stikers have been sold or let go since last summer and one brought in leaving us woefully short up front, a better manager may well have done better this year but then again a different manager may well have walked after winning a double award then being sh1t on by a wonderful boss.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #17

    beattie

    Yeh i know…over such a small set of games (8) its difficult to amplify that over the who season…need at least 15 games i’d say to get a decent idea of whether its just a short term or possible long term improvement.

    So by the end of the season, that should be 15 games, so we will have a better idea, although still not complete.

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #18

    Rob Lee on ESPN –

    “Newcastle don’t put in enough quality into the box”

    Alan Padrew –

    “I’ve seen Rob’s comments, I don’t think its our fault we’re not putting enough quality in, the opposition won’t let us put it in it”

    I agree with Rob Lee – Think our ball into Cisse has been a lot poorer this season than last. But then we don’t really have an out and out winger any more – Jonas and Marv arn’t really wingers, Gouffran is a striker playing on the wing. Jonas can’t cross anyway! I think Cisse would score loads more goals if we had someone who just beat his man and put the ball in the box!

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #19

    Stuart

    Bit of both.

    A lot of teams had us figured last season but couldn’t beat us. All teams had to do was watch Tottenham away, Wigan away etc… last year to see how to outfox Pardew.

    We have no luck and a manager who enters a gun fight with a notepad and pencil.

    If he became football adviser at the club he’d have my respect but he is not cut out to be a top level manager.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #20

    beattie and stuart

    I think last season we got a lot of one goal wins…1-0, 2-1 a lot of the time we won.

    This was based us on us having minimal changes to the team week in week out as well as no distractions at all in cups.

    I think that if you are only winning by narrow margins constantly you leave youself open to be punished when things aren’t going 100% your way like whats happened this year.

    What we need though is to find ways to get through this, the poor run we went on before jan cannot be excused or put down to only injuries….we should have picked up more points in that time but we didn’t and now we are paying the price.

    I think we will beat fulham and sunderland and be safe though…then hopefully build for next year.

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  • DarkSideofTheToon

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #21

    Jail for Ashley

    I can’t help but feel that you’ve got it spot on there, the only thing that we can hope for in the transfer window in the summer is that past mistakes will not be replicated and those areas we are short in (mainly up front) are amply strengthened so that Pardew is not in the same position at the start of next season where he only has 3 (2 now after sale of Ba) recognised first team strikers to choose from, one of whom is well past his best.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #22

    JFA

    much the way martin o’neil walked out on villa when they stopped backing him…not all will put up with that.

    Although in europe a lot do as managers don’t always have a say in who comes in or clubs don’t have money to spend.

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #23

    Jail for Ashley –

    Why is it you always mention net spend!

    Get over it – Carroll was sold ages ago, the £35 million has gone, we have bought in over 5 full internationals since Carroll ..

    We turned a profit this season.. One of a very few clubs in the full English league pyramid!

    Gouffran, Cisse, Ameobi, Campbell – All strikers, we only play with one striker, how many more do you want!

    He tried to sign Remy , we got screwed over in that department.

    You’re living in the past!

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #24

    For me investment comes second to the quality of the manager.

    A great manager will get points on the board with or without investment.

    A poor manager hides behind it or can only win because of it.

    What’s the point in backing Pardew with great talent if he is going to waste them?

    If we are going to invest it must be with a new manager at the helm.

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  • Krul to be Kind

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #25

    this lad is not the top drawer ‘younger’ striker we need

    In fact, I think this lad is gash and is just bullying his way through the Juniper league, he will be found out if and when he goes to a big boys league, I’m almost certain that was the case when he was at Monaco

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #26

    People say Pardew did great last season and that he won the award and blah blah blah.

    What’s to say a better manager wouldn’t have got us into the CL last season or a manager with more balls would’ve forced Ashley to invest due to the success?

    Those scenarios are equally as likely as another manager walking due to lack of investment.

    I’d rather have a manager expose the real Ashley than listen to the organ grinders monkey every soddin week.

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  • daztoon

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #27

    @toon252
    Alan Padrew –

    “I’ve seen Rob’s comments, I don’t think its our fault we’re not putting enough quality in, the opposition won’t let us put it in it”

    That has to be Pardew`s most stupid comment to date
    maybe next it will be the opposition wont let us tackle em or Cisse is the only player they will let into the penalty area

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #28

    Beattie:

    Spot on, David Moyes is testament to this.

    We have 4 recognised strikers, we only play with one..

    The start of the season we had BA/Cisse/Ameobi

    How many more people want? Only one striker plays!

    These people are still hurting over Carroll – They are the ones who call us a selling club although we’ve only sold 2 big players in the past 3 years!

    One for £35m and one because of a clause!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #29

    beattie

    There is a balance to be had though….sir alex ferguson wouldn’t have wiagn at the top of the league and pardew wouldn’t have man utd in our position.

    So that shows there must be some balance to be had. There are two questions we need to ask if pardew’s position is to be considered.

    1. who is the best manager we will be able to attract

    2. how much more could he get out of the squad than we currently are getting.

    I don’t know the answer to question 1…but i do think a better manager could get a lot more from this team.

    Doesn’t mean I want Pardew out, wouldn’t really complain if he was replaced by a better man, but I’d strengthen in the summer, give him next season and see what happens…see if he improves our play to the level it could be (not world beaters, but better than we currently are)

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #30

    @Daz

    I know mate – I was in stitches when I read that! Like you said, what’s he want, Risse in next game just to stand by and let Jonas cross the ball!

    We haven’t scored from a set piece in over 60 games!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #31

    toon252

    we are light up front though…we have cisse, gouff and ameobi

    ameobi is not good enough, great lad just not what we need as a starting option….cisse is a good player but has no real competition…..gouff we haven’t seen as a striker yet but he is needed on the wing currently so not much of an option up front.

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #32

    Sage..

    What happens if we are in the Championship next season?

    Would you give Pardew another year then?

    If we stay up, does he deserve recognition for fighting off relegation?

    My answer is no to both!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #33

    toon252

    Well if we go down he must go…i cant see that happening…might be naive but i just don’t think it will happen.

    And it all depends, I’m not for or against pardew staying…if we can get a better manager go for it…if not then stick with him for the time being and see how much we can improve.

    A lot depends on the last 7 games….0 wins and he must walk…7 wins and we do quite well.

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  • Jamiemac

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #34

    toon232

    No it’s not his fault

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  • toon252

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #35

    Sage,

    We do need to replace Ameobi, 1100% right on that – I still think people have over talked the striker debate this season.. When Pardew had Ciss/Ba he still played Cisse/Ba on wing over Marv! If we bought Remy i think he’d be on the wing!

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  • daztoon

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #36

    People say judge Pardew when everyone is fit.No manager has his best players available week in week out and what we think is his best 11 is not what he see`s as his best 11.Jonas would be in his first 11 for starters and most people don`t even want him anywhere near the first team.
    One player he has to find a place for is Marv even last night he found Cisse with a killer pass

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  • Alan Pas-de-clue

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #37

    i dont see why people persist to back pardew by pointing out ashleys failures in the summer transfer window.

    everybody is allowed to make mistakes as long as they learn from them.,

    ashley realised his mistake and rectified this in the summer.

    pardew makes the same tactical mistakes week in week out yet pardew lovers are happy to back him

    on the pitch, i do not condone hanging santon out to dry for one mistake last night.

    however he doesnt track back after running forward leaving us monumentally exposed and it is this that he hasnt learnt from that grinds my gears.

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  • Alan Pas-de-clue

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #38

    rectified this in january*

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #39

    Transfer

    I understand what you are saying but if Pardew was in charge of Man Utd he’d wouldn’t be anywhere near top 4.

    Man U are a team of over achievers with an amazing manager. Pardew couldn’t handle that job.

    Sir Alex at Wigan would have them considerably higher than bottom 4 where as Pardew would have them bottom.

    That’s the difference. Of course investment is important but not as important as the right manager.

    No investment in the Summer and an average manager equals relegation scrap.

    If Ashley wants us to be a top 10 team we will have to invest heavily into the team because we have an average manager. Alternatively if he wants to have a stable ‘top 10’ team and not invest in new players, he needs to invest in a new manager.

    If he wants success (as we all do) we need investment into the team and manager or else we’ll be the epitome of mediocrity.

    As for which managers we could attract. I think managers in the top 6 of the French, Belgian, Dutch, Portugese, Norwegian, Swedish leagues could be interested and perhaps top 8 Spanish, German or Italian club managers.

    I’d go for Frank De Boer. He might want to prove himself in the PL but won’t be offered a Manchester or top London job yet.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #40

    Alan pas de clue

    Yeh that is an issue with santon.

    But Ashley hasn’t shown he has put it right yet. He has corrected the symptom but has he corrected the source of the problem?

    He needs to show this summer that he will invest, not bothered how much but we need 3/4 first team players. Whether they are 1 or 10 mil each I don’t care, as long as they are good.

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