This was the worst possible result for Newcastle and the the 3-0 loss to Sunderland this afternoon does nothing for our relegation safety at all, and makes our goal difference a terrible -17.
Papiss Cisse in action this afternoon
And with 91% of readers in our poll expecting a win this afternoon – make no mistake about it – this was the worst loss in Alan Pardew’s tenure at Newcastle – and he should realize that.
This was the first Sunderland win against Newcastle since October 25th of 2008 – our relegation season – when we lost 2-1 at the Stadium of Light.
And this was a stunning win for Sunderland and a catastrophic loss for Newcastle – and makes a mockery of us talking about moving up the league and being a top six side next season.
Goals from Stephane Sessegnon (28), Andrew Johnson (74) and David Vaughan (82) gave Sunderland the win they needed so much – and I for one – didn’t see this coming at all – but our defense is again a big weakness and of course we’ve lost goalkeeper Tim Krul with injury.
And this is Sunderland’s first win in 10 games, after previously drawing only three of the previous nine and losing the rest – – and they scored only 7 goals in those previous 9 games, but got three against the Newcastle side this afternoon.
It’s also the second time in the last three league games that we have lost to a side below us in the league table.
This is a humbling and embarrassing loss for Newcastle United.
The game was fairly even in the first 20 minutes or so but then Sessegnon scored with a shot that crept in just inside Tim Krul’s right hand post – and then Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet made two excellent saves from Cisse to keep the Black Cats on top.
But Sunderland should probably have doubled their lead just before half time when Krul did very well to somehow parry Cuellar’s header, and wondered where our defenders were – they were nowhere near the Sunderland center-back – that’s for sure.
It was 1-0 at the break – and Alan Pardew brough on Shola Ameobi at half time.
But then Tim Krul was injured 10 minutes into the second half, and he has an injured shoulder – and it doesn’t look very good.
Rob Elliot came on for Tim and Newcastle came at Sunderland but Mignolet was in top form to keep out a Cisse effort, and then Cisse had the ball in the back of the net – but the linesman flagged for offside.
And then Ben Arfa was brought on and he had a wonderful chance to equalize for Newcastle but the Frenchman headed over – when it was much easier to score.
Newcastle were pressing forward and looking for the equalizer, but then would you believe it – Sunderland scored again, when they caught Newcastle short at the back – and it was Sunderland-born Adam Johnson who took the ball down the wing, but then he cut inside and sent a tremendous strike past Elliot.
And then they even got a third goal when Sessegnon broke through and sent a pass to substitute Vaughan, and the former Blackpool player put the ball high into the back of net.
And the demolition of Newcastle was complete – and Newcastle had their chances in the game – and a combination of bad luck and poor finishing had Sunderland hold Newcastle scoreless – and this defeat is going to be very hard to take.
And we are not safe yet from relegation either, and we are away to West Brom on Saturday, and remember we’ve won only one game on the road all season in the league.
The lads let the supporters down big time this afternoon – the display wasn’t too bad – but the result is unbelievably bad – and it will be interesting to hear what Alan Pardew has to say about this shocking defeat.
And you can bet your life that Mike Ashley and Derek LLambias will be far from happy with this result, as they know what this game means to both sets of supporters.
This is Sunderland’s biggest win against Newcastle since 1979 – when they beat us 4-1 at St. James’ Park on 24th February – it’s that bad.
I’m just completely stunned and will having humble pie and chips soon – maybe I’ll wash it down with a bottle of strong (very strong) wine.
Teams:
Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Tim Krul (Rob Elliot 57); Mathieu Debuchy, Steven Taylor, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Jonas Gutierrez; Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye (c) (Hatem Ben Arfa 63); Sylvain Marveaux, Moussa Sissoko, Yoan Gouffran (Shola Ameobi 46); Papiss Cisse
Subs not used: Massadio Haidara, James Perch, Vurnon Anita, Adam Campbell
Sunderland (4-2-3-1): Simon Mignolet; Phil Bardsley (Jack Colback 54), Carlos Cuellar (Kader Mangane 71), John O’Shea (c), Danny Rose; Alfred N’Diaye, Sebastian Larsson; Adam Johnson, Stephane Sessegnon, James McClean (David Vaughan 65); Danny Graham
Subs not used: Kieren Westwood, Matthew Kilgallon, Jordan Laidler, Mikael Mandron
Referee: Howard Webb (Yorkshire)
Bookings: Newcastle – Gouffran (24), Cisse (43), Taylor (45); Sunderland – Rose (37)
97 comments so far
Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Comment #41Sorry, but I would be furious if we went for Harry Redknapp. Absolutely detest him and would give Pardew another 8 years before him.
He has done alright at some places, but at what cost? You may argue that he brings a few things more to the table, but nowhere near enough imo to make it worth while. If we’re going to change then let’s actually get something better.
This is going to be a tough subject today, after seeing newly appointed Di Canios team get the better of us.
davis_toons
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Comment #42… .”I would argue the biggest player we’ve missed this season is NOT HBA, Cabaye, Sissoko etc.
One man… Demba Ba.”
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If thats true! Then Its Clearly shows that Pardew only depends on individual player to perform on his day.
He dont makes/ guide them work as a group and score a team effort goal.
Which can only be consistent and win games and trophies.
Ketsbaia9
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Comment #43Andy Carroll’s not the answer for christ sake. We need Benteke and Remy at the club. Time to spend some cash, unlike last summer.
daztoon
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Comment #44@manxpie
You really are Pardew its just excuse after excuse for you.
We were at home playing the supporters biggest game of the season and we got hammered by a team who hadn`t won a game in while with our strongest side.We showed no passion,tempo and lacked any idea`s
Beattie25
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Comment #45Ibiza
It isn’t that simple but case and point is that Guti shouldn’t have been playing LB. If he hadn’t we would have greatly reduced the chances of him cutting into central midfield, losing the ball and not racing back!
You can’t avoid individual errors but you can minimise the risk of things like that. That misplaced pass was down to Guti but where he lost the ball, how he lost the ball and the subsequent lack of pressure on the opposition is down to Pardew.
I’m not trying to say that these things can always be avoided but I am saying there is more to it than a simple error of judgement.
Players should be coached into what to do with the ball in certain positions. Guti has never been nor will ever be a LB. Santon against Benfica should have been drilled into clearing a ball at the expense of a throwing etc…
As I said above 1 or 2 mistakes every so often by an individual is part of being human. 1 or 2 mistakes every game by the team is part of being coached by an alien!
Markaccus
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Comment #46Jesus some people need locking up on here. Its looneys day out. I think i might wait until next week before i come here again. Its bad for my blood pressure.
seasons
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM
Comment #47completely agree with markaccus and transfer sage
kevymartins
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Comment #48@Manx did the team look tired to you? because it didn’t to me marveaux sissoko jonas the hole team infact were running all over the place fine just not linking with each other and making silly school boy errors
Transfer Sage
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Comment #49manx
I do agree, this season pardew has had problems, missed keys players for chunks of the season with very limited back up.
I dont expect us around the top 4. I do expect, regardless of results, that we offer more of an attacking threat in games. Arguably our defense was the weakest part of our side start of this year, therefore basing our game on defending was silly as it invites pressure onto the weak area.
I’m not saying go gung ho and attack from the off with all 10 in their half, but we need to offer a lot more than we did.
We took the game to man utd and arsenal away…lost both (arsenal score line flattered them in the end) and we looked our best. If we had played like that at home to west ham, swansea, reading, villa i have no doubt we would have got more than the 1 point we managed from those games.
I’m not a pardew fan or hater, just from what I have seen the man is afraid of failure. With the squad he has, especially now, we shouldn’t be going into games winning by one goal with a late winner, we should be dominating teams and making them worry about us.
BandB
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Comment #50Markaccus
Answer the question. It shouldn’t make anyone’s neck throb.
At what point, exactly WOULD you begin to feel just a tadge like everything wasn’t perfect?
toonbrother
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM
Comment #51@Markaus Redknapp cannot make us sign players we are not interested in. You talk as if he forced his chairmen to sign overpaid players at gunpoint. Ashley will not break his wage structure irrespective of who the manager is.
However as a manager, strategist and tactician Redknapp is 10X better than Pardummy. With the players at his disposal we could be a top 4 contender in my humble opinion
NUFC FOR SALE
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM
Comment #52Top and bottom of it is that these are not the players pardew would have bought had it been up to him. We’d be a Stoke type team if pardew had his way. ..full of planks whacking big long balls up to 2 giant strikers. Pardew does not know how to use the players carr has brought to the club.
We need a modern manager with modern football ideas.
Pardew has to be replaced and that’s not based on this 1 game.
Tiote to be sold.
Ill drive jonas wherever he wanta to go but he shouldn’t be playing here anymore.
thebionicMAG
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM
Comment #53ToonDownSouth
After watching that I think we all need a lie down…
mohtoolz
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Comment #54manxpie
What!!? He is the manager, its his job to make his employes deliver. HE IS THE MANAGER for FFS.
Business 101!!
Do you know what is player assessment? Managers have the schedule before hand Rotate players. Manage your resources that is what skilled mangers do.
MAN!! Look at the way we have been playing. Look at this record. People defending Pardew are just strange. post Pardew’s statistics as a manger and discuss.
I just do not have faith in him.
Enough said.
Markaccus
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Comment #55Catchy p1ss off your piece of sh1t. You are one person who i would really love to throw in pool of your own bullsh1t. You horrible little tw@
Ketsbaia9
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Comment #56We need to appoint Sven Goran Eriksson. Pardew doesn’t pick the best team. Anita should be playing more. Feel sorry for him. Cabaye, Tiote and Gutierrez should’ve been dropped on numerous occasions.
Hatem's better than Messi
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Comment #57LLambias needs to wait until the final whistle of the season blows to hand Pardew his P45.
Too many failures.
Too many absolutely dire performances.
Pardew should have been sacked after yet another embarrassing FA Cup exit.
He has to go in the summer.
newcastle10
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Comment #58Newcastle manager Alan Pardew: “Sunderland looked fresh and sharp and we looked a little tired from our efforts this week.” excuses excuses excuses getting sick of them now
elpaso_geordie
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Comment #59If Allardyce or Souness or even Roeder had been in charge of that today the crowd would have been wanting them out. If any of the above had had a league season like this one everyone would want them out. Pardew gets off very lightly in my opinion …
From a shocking first half Pardew managed to make it worse in the second with his substituions , Shola at Half time ( HBA surely) No shape , no fight, no idea attacking as a unit, relying on individual skill every game to get something from it.
Harry Redknapp with financial restraints would be a better option than this
Sazzer
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Comment #60Pardew isn’t utter crap. He knows how to get player to closing down game after a player scored extraordinary goal but except from that he’s pretty much clueless. I thought he would learn something eventually but limited signs so far.
No Plain Saylor
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Comment #61Two things, people calling for Pardews head, it is understandable to an extent, a club that passes 156 thousand through the gates in 7 days deserve a world class a manger, and we all agree Pardew isn’t one. But it’s when your calling for it, he’s not going to go today.or this week don’t be stupid. We are right back in this mess only 2 points above scumberland now. If Ashley is as smart as I think he is (like him or not he’s no mug) he will review Pardew’s position at the end of the season. Pardew should be remembered in time the same way Willo, Shola, Jonas and Simmo will be. They did their job, helped the club back into the premier league, and whilst they tried their best, just weren’t up the standard we want. Move on. Second thing is if your gonna call for Pardew’s head at least offer a realistic replacement that would be an improvement. If Pardew does go in the summer I’d be happy with Gus Poyet, Roberto Martinez, Roberto Di Matteo, maybe even Lee Clark.
Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Comment #62Beattie…Is that the opening to a “Is Pardew actually an alien” debate? Do we have any facts or proof on this? 😉
Sorry to frustrate, still not converted to the “out” team.
Simple reason is:
I have not actually seen a name that I thought yes they will improve us, that I actually believed we would get.
Until then, I don’t think Pardew is as horrendous as many others and can do a job whilst we continue to re-build. As and when that other option is there, then I would be happy to change.
We can argue which managers would or wouldn’t come, truth is we don’t know, I just don’t think it’s as likely as you seem to.
geordieracer1980
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Comment #63How many people on here are bi-polar? I would day about 10% during non-match times and 90% percent during and immediatelly after the match. I find this blog so amusing and try not to take peoples comments too seriously.
The players, every single one of them, were shocking today. I can’t single one out as we were totally shite.
Pardew isn’t blameless but the players have to look at themselves a lot more than he does. I thought the team looked great before kick off, as did everyone on here. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
martoon
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM
Comment #64If some of you lot owned a football club you would sack the manager every time the team lost a game. Yes we are all gutted but lets get some perspective.
Ryan2502
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Comment #65Bad news, lads. Krul out for the season! Dislocated shoulder apparently.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8639653/Tim-Krul-out-for-season-after-dislocating-his-shoulder-during-Tyne-Wear-derby
Transfer Sage
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Comment #66people for and against redknapp are wasting time.
The guy wouldnt even move to london to manage spurs, he wants to stay in his current house even though is an hour or more commute to london each day, then an hour home.
No way will the guy move up to us, he used the ukraine job to get the qpr one, he wont leave the area he’s in.
toonbrother
Apr 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Comment #67@daztoon what amazes me is the way people make excuses for our pathetic excuse of a manager . we have one of the BEST squads in the league. We have had more than enough resources to cope with the Europa league whilst still challenging for a top 4/top 5 place this season. Even today people were commenting on the strength of the bench. Apart from Sesesegnon I cannot think of of sunderland player who could have walked into our staring 11. Pardumb’s mismanagement of the squad has been nothing short of criminal.
El Tino
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Comment #68cant blame players when they re being played out of position. Ba is greedy and never suited the team. Congested midfield while cisse stretches space in mid by playing off the shoulder.
sissoko does not like playing out wide. jonas crap at lb.if tiote sits cabaye n sissoko need to alternate attacking runs into the box.
i think we miss enrique the most both in attack and defence. Santon was good but has started to fade and get injured after playing too much this season. Also defensively he has got worse.
Markaccus
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Comment #69BandB who said things are perfect? Our players were awful today. Not one of them put a shift in. They are 100 percent to blame.
Beattie25
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Comment #70Manxpie
I’d get into a battle of wits with you but I don’t like to pick on the disabled.
Go and watch some football matches other than the odd Newcastle game illegally fed to your laptop.
You would think a team that has just won the last 3 home games, pushed a quality European team all the way and was welcoming back some big international players into the squad had a better chance than a bottom 4 club who hadn’t won in 10 and was playing away from home.
This game as many have been this season was lost in the dressing room, the tunnel and the touch line!
Do you think Mo Farrah would have blamed racing 3 days earlier of he hadn’t have won the gold? No. That’s his job, to run near marathons every week! That is what he is payed for!
So what now? We say to our players ok, we lost because you’re only paid 30k a week to play 1 game a week?
All the top teams play 2 games a week! It’s the conditioning, tactics and management that will see you fall or climb.
You sir know nothing!
Novocastrian66
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM
Comment #71Sunderland deserved to win today. We were poor, but they were good also. We haven’t played well since the Chelsea game. We’ve played the same way week after week and have been rubbish.
I thought we were poor against Man City but it least they’re a good side. Sunderland are not yet beat us comfortably.
Something is wrong somewhere. It’s no good denying it. Pardew is paid to resolve it and he isn’t.
Ultimately the buck stops with him.
Transfer Sage
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM
Comment #72martoon
A lot here aren’t reacting to one game….its the quality of football we have seen for 2 seasons now.
Regardless of injuries or full strength team we have played the same defensive game, relied on individual efforts from ba, cisse, ben arfa and cabaye and that can’t last for ever, there is little team element to most of our goals.
NUFC FOR SALE
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM
Comment #73Ketsbia9 you’re spot on
Carroll is not the answer and benteke and remy would be great signings…however if pardew has any say it will be carroll.
Pardew would have a team full of 6 foot plus players because he doesn’t know what to do with footballers
manxpie
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM
Comment #74toonking the point is over the season it really doesn’t matter if we can finally put our strongest side out for 1 game that’d be like a pre-season game!
the point is we haven’t been able to do it for more than TWO games since the start of the season that is a massive issue that no 1 and i mean no 1 can deny!
every manager will say a good team is a settled team (look at the start of last season)!!
to blame pardew for the whole season is a joke!?
now if we had a mostly fit squad and for 6 months a squad that was capable of playing both the prem/cups and euro then yes in this bposition the manager is capable but he hasn’t thats a fact tell me another manager that would have performed better with the problems we,ve had!?
Partizan
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:04 PM
Comment #75Lets face it,lady luck with the wonder goals and solo goals has turned her back on Pardew,can he make this team play with chemistry not relying on luck every time,,,i don’t think so.
I don’t mind losing,i don’t care if we lose 3-0 or 7-0…but as long as we play like real men with some pretty football involved,but like this its totally unaceptable.
toonking
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Comment #76TS
i can’t agree more with your points on how defensive we have been this season and to sum it all up out of every premier league game so far this season only three games we have had 2+ goal differance sometime during the game they were villa where it was 2-0 southhampton where it finished 4-2 and wigan 3-0 but the rest have always needed to opposition to score before us or to go level before we score again
Fridge
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Comment #77TS
completely agree with your post answering martoon! Spot on!!
NUFCarter
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Comment #78The match was an utter embarrassment and that’s an understatement.
I would love to know who thinks who played well today. Ok HBA made a difference but the players around him offered nowt and just stood around at 3-0. The only players that know the importance of this game are Taylor and shola and they were shite today.
On Pardew, I fail to see how yet another loss is due to Pardew yet again. It’s not like Pardew says don’t give it your all, sit back hoof it up to field. He doesn’t like that. It’s the players mentality. Their attitude was appalling. Ok if we had a different manager he may of gave them a kick up the ass. I’m not a Pardew lover and I always said after PDC left Swindon he would be a great manager in the prem – even for nufc. But to blame Pardew after every loss is pathetic.
Sunderland deserved the win, credit to them and to Paulo di canio. Whats more frustrating is everyone were predicting 3-0 wins to toon and it ended up the other way and the 3% who voted for Sunderland to win were right ( who surely were mackems). Luckily there’s not a mackem in sight where I live. And we’ve got just less than a week to our next match. So this loss is gonna be on my mind all week.
There’s times where you love supporting the toon like last week against fulham but then there’s times where you become so depressed because of the performance and result today. FFS!!
El Tino
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Comment #79agree with above. we dont score team goals. its usually individual brilliance or a through ball frm marv or cabs. Very few 1 2s etc
Williamsonsuks
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Comment #80Cisse’s goal should’ve stood! Scumerland only had 4/5 shots and scored 3. On another day they’d have got nowt. We (the fans) wanted attacking football so pards attacked, leaving us exposed at the back. The scum showed more hunger and belief TBH came from nowhere. No one in Britain could’ve predicted that score line. I am completely gutted. Still Pardew deserves a season or 2 to put things right. With all the injuries, not strengthening in the summer, getting the new guys in their best positions, and all of the official’s blunders he deserves a chance to get it right.