Lack Of Desire By Newcastle Players Is Worrying


We had said after the game that Sunderland won the game yesterday because they wanted it more than Newcastle, and we never accepted Pardew’s excuse that our players were tired. – that’s nonsense – especially in a game against Sunderland.

alan shearer close up 2012

Alan Shearer – Sunderland wanted it more

Last weekend we had almost the same team starting that had played the previous Thursday night, and we ran Fulham off their feet in that second half.

But it was different yesterday and the Sunderland players were prepared well for this game – while Newcastle were not. – and were still basking in their courageous efforts of Thursday night – even if they were unsuccessful

And lack of desire at Newcastle is always completely unacceptable – and if our French contingent didn’t know that before yesterday’s game they will now – with the reaction of Geordie fans understandably very unhappy – and that’s an understatement.

This is what Alan Shearer said in the Sun about Newcastle’s dismal performance:

“Sometimes in life you have to hold up your hands and say: ‘We were poor’ – however much it hurts,” “Newcastle did not deserve anything from the game, and the biggest concern for any fan was seeing the players in the red and white shirts wanting it more.”

“The French guys who came into the Newcastle team have been doing well, but it didn’t look like they realised the magnitude of this fixture.”

“Generally, it has been much better since they arrived at the club in January and they have been playing well – but maybe they didn’t understand the derby, as they didn’t perform.”

“Paolo Di Canio had his players wound up for the day, so you have to say congratulations,” “He has had a tough time for differing reasons in the first couple of weeks in charge. They found it tough against Chelsea, but that will be forgotten after this result.”

“Di Canio did his job and his players also showed the same passion for the game as their manager. That is a massive result for them as they were in real danger.”

“Sunderland proved to their manager they do not want to go down, but if you didn’t know the league table you would think Newcastle were the ones bang in trouble.”

“Their defending was poor, there was no creativity in midfield and Toon were poor up front as well. They never got started in the first half and deserved to be a goal down at the break.”

“The decision to disallow Papiss Cisse’s effort will probably be mentioned in the aftermath, but that would be masking over the fact it was a poor performance. To be honest, we were lucky to get away with conceding three.”

“I think even the staunchest Newcastle fans, including myself, cannot say anything different.”

We think Alan has it exactly right – he hit the nail on the head – lack of desire from our Newcastle players is a big concern.

It could be that our players were suffering from playing their 5th game in 15 days but Alan Pardew will now be under pressure to show he can inspire the Newcastle players into some good performances through the last five games of the season when we play just once a week.

That’s what Di Canio did with the Sunderland players yesterday – however overstated his celebrations of the goals were – well he is Italian. :D.

And the Newcastle players will be in the dock too.

Yesterday was utterly and completely unacceptable and if players are not going to give 100% for the side – especially against Sunderland – they shouldn’t bother even turning up.

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51 comments so far

  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #1

    repost

    Hey all!

    Anyone else have a hard time coming to work today. I live in Norway and still its hard to come to work with two of my coleagues beeing Tottenham and Liverpool fans. Dont have any Sunderland fans here though wich is a blessing I guess.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #2

    1st…possibly

    So seems the majority of fans want rid of pardew, so IF we are in EPL next year who would you like to see? Sure this has been done to death but I would like to throw another name in the ring – Rudi Garcia, Lille – Previously managed both Cabs and Debuchy, won L1 and FC in same year, always finish high in league, proven track record of developing players – hazard, M Sow etc plays in a continental fashion and 1 yr left on his contract

    Thoughts

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  • Pardew's Pointless Beard

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #3

    Personally Sunderland are just experiencing New manager syndrome to be fair

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #4

    Like the comment from Griff-toon…no sunderland fans here, big club my arse!

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #5

    Pardew’s rallying call at the end of last season was to tell us to expect less because we were in Europe citing Stoke as an example. (Even though stoke have done worse this season without Europa). This negativity and lowered expectation has spread to his troops and often he brings out the excuses before a match again effecting the players belief. He’s hardly an inspirational figure.

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #6

    @MJKBurke

    Good call with Garcia. Martinez will leave Wigan also and Moyes is leaving Everton for a new challenge. Failing that I’d give
    Poyet a chance

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #7

    Is the Europa League a poisoned chalice
    Teams with smallish squads have struggled in the same season
    Stoke, Fulham,
    Middlesbrough Birmingham relegated

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #8

    MJC

    Hehe, Im sure they have their own pub somewhere in the city, but I dont know of any Sunderland fans here.

    I like your alternative manager suggestion. I think Rudi Garcia would be a good manager for the team. But not sure what Cabs or Debuchy would think about it.

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  • Markaccus

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #9

    So far so good here this morning. Ok some people want a new manager next year…. thats more sensible than sacking him now for the last 5 games. I personally think he should be given another chance as i think there has been too many things happen to get an objective view of his capabilities to judge. He won manager of he year with us last season after we overacheived. At worst he is one for one and deserves the chance to show last year wasnt a total fluke. I know the two sides of this argument will never agree. So i will not get into arguments any more with those who want rid. However, if the ones who want him sacked imediately turn up then the blog willbe ruined for the day. Particularly that featering little worm Catchy.

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  • Markaccus

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #10

    *festering.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #11

    Griff – did cabs or debuchy have bad feeling towards garcia when they left?

    I really think he is the most natural fit for us, being french as well and think he would be willing to move.

    Think martinez gets away with a lot in EPL, side always battling relegation etc, probably still an upgrade though but would expect other possible clubs to be sniffing around also. Lost a lot of respect for him over the Haidiera challenge.

    Moyes – not sure where he will go, clearly very good at motivation but I’m not sure he doesnt need a year long break before launching into another project. Could see him waiting for a big job to come up as well.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #12

    I’d love to have soljskaer, bergkamp, hyppia…all recently retired…one has won the league, one is working at Ajax and the other is managing Leverkusen.

    These all would be hungry and have passion/desire to prove themselves. Whether it works or not I don’t know, but they all know how to win, especially soljskaer

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #13

    The next Mike Williamson

    I agree with you that when things are going bad, Pardew tends to come with a lot of excuses. Also, instead of saying that 2 choice players should take their chanse and play well for the team to get their place, he is always talking about how we lack our best players and I always have a feeling he is talking down the 2nd teamers, if you know what I mean.

    “We did not have our strongest squad” How is that supposed to make the other players feel?

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  • Guj NUFC

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #14

    I live in Birminghama and I’ve never seen a mackem here!!!

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  • Santon03

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #15

    Pardew just saving his own skin

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #16

    MJCBurke

    I think Debuchy was a little upset with not beeing able to leave after beeing told it was ok in the first place.
    Cabaye I think didnt have a problem with him.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #17

    Transfer – very up and coming managers/coaches but again with their backgrounds with other clubs and big reputations can see them holding out for top 6 clubs, or trying to get more experience in europe. Think bergkamp would need to show working as an actual manager first outside of the ajax system.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #18

    Markaccus

    I was all for seeing this season through and giving pardew all of next season.

    But since the new boys arrived and gave us the initial boost we have struggled even in the games we have won. I don’t expect Barcelona football but I want to see us go out there knowing we are the better team and attacking a bit more, commuting more forward.

    Results aside, good or bad, it’s the intent of the team and I don’t think that’s something which will improve with time or a fully fit squad. The teams we put out since jan have been full of quality yet we still hang back deep and don’t create enough unless we go behind which means we are always fighting and uphill battle.

    I look to bring a new manager in at the end of the season. It’s a thank you to pardew for european football but its time to go.

    Ps…pulis might be sacked so there’s a job for him haha

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  • martoon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #19

    Markaccus@9 – I tend to agree with that – I was trying to make the point yesterday that most of us agree we have a good scouting system, decent squad and the club is quite well run now. It is some of the football style and tactics we don’t like so maybe we need some new coaches rather than a new manager.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #20

    I think debuchy was more bothered by the club president moving the goal posts over the summer, but you might be right.

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #21

    Transfer Sage

    Noooo Pulis

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  • stuart no9

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #22

    i,m glad shearer has come out and said it as it really is – no bol//cks just the truth. that will concern pards as what shearer says, still carries a lot of weight. well said shearer

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  • Markaccus

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #23

    Tsage… as long as pulis doesnt come this way in his place!!!

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #24

    I thought we played quite well agains Benfica though. Just saying.

    I think under Pardew we have glimpses of good play and I think Pardew still has a chanse to get it right after the summer transfer window. I think he does well when we are on a roll but equally he is not handling the bad run very well. Getting nervous and coming with excuses.

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  • bills-son

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #25

    Three away games with our atrocious away form and homes games against Lpool and Arsenal.

    It’s more about battle and bottle now than skill. If we get relegatec there is no excuse and it will be the biggest disaster in my 50 odd years supporting the toon.

    Without a doubt this would be the worst relegation ever and could set us back years. I”ve said for a few weeks now that I’d hate to go into the last three games needing points to stay up – that is almost certainly going to be the case now. And I fear for us, I really do.

    God pray we beat West Brom and Liverpool.

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  • Dimitri

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #26

    As gutted as I am, I feel that this might be the turnaround. It can’t be any lower than this.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #27

    Totally agree with transfer, was willing to give pardew more time if results picked up after january and put the begining of the season down to poor play, injuries and lack of investment in the summer.

    Since jan, yes our results have picked up, but honestly couldnt have been much worse, but as transfer says in all games we seem to be hanging on, need to hit a wonder goal or get a last gasp winner, we never seem to be comfortable in any game.

    So i agree, thanks for the memories pardew but if we are going to invest in this squad in the future then you are now the weak link and an upgrade is required.

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  • croftus5678

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #28

    would take moyes in a heart beat what he’s done there with no player budget is amazing !

    poyet
    di-matteo
    garcia
    bergkamp

    all managers who imo would be an upgrade also and push us into a top 6 from changing manager alone.

    i’ve allways supported pards as he’s not the worst manager he’s an avg manager and even though its a derby game it is only 3 points lost !

    i’ll split the season in half once over and add the points up see if i think he could take us anywhere as there is no excuses for this second half of the season.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #29

    Griff – when the good times are good he seems to be fine but when it is bad it gets really bad. My worry with pardew is he doesnt seem to know how to turn it around it’s just all very hopeful, he does not appear very proactive in that way.

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  • Markaccus

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #30

    Martoon. Yes i would agree that something needs to change. The toon showed that they could attack im that lasr half hour v benfica. And we were all over fulham in the second half. We had 20 mins yesterday, during which cisse had a goal chalked off and then we effed off home again. We need someone who can get us to consistantly put together maybe 3 strong attacking spells in our games. Whether a coach or a manager or even a senior player to co-ordinate this i dont know. Al i know is that if you go all out all game you get hammered in the last 15 mins.

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #31

    @bills-son

    I agree with you, it realy is nerve racking. And this Sunderland game was our best chanse of putting some mutch needed distance to the bottom 3. Thats why I also dont understand the lack of desire from the players in this match. If they are not fired up from the fact that its a derby it should be for the safety of the clubb. 3 point here would have seen us in 11 place and feeling a lot more comfortable.

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  • Pardew's Pointless Beard

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #32

    Isn’t Martin O’Neill available?

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  • Markaccus

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #33

    Still think stoke, villa and the makems are more likely to get relegated than we are.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #34

    Markaccus

    Going all out for 90mins is foolish. But we do need to offer more of a threat. We have players to keep the ball, on paper, but thy cant seem to do it. No idea why that’s happened.

    Mjc

    They might hold out but the same could have been said for laudrupp. If you identify 4/5, sure we can get a list like that with some proper scouting, no reason one of those managers wouldn’t come to us.

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  • Griff-toon

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #35

    I just thought of something.

    Do you guys remember the composure we had against Bordaux. Passing the ball around and holding it untill the Bordaux players had no fight or desire to press any more.

    Why did Pardew not write this great tactic down in his book to take into other matches? Or was it just that Bordaux where crap?

    To me it was one of the best displays of the season. Composure wise.

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  • Pardew's Pointless Beard

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #36

    Failing that maybe Joe kinnear?

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #37

    Griff – agree it is not just terrible to lose at home to sunderland in such a manner but it was an opportunity to really make us safe from the drop.

    Markaccus – agree think we will be saved by someone else going down and i would put wigan in that category, games in hand dont matter it’s points on the board. It’s hardly a good position for us to be in relaying on other teams though

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  • one Tony Green

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #38

    We will survive not because Pardew will come up with a cunning plan but simply because the clubs below us are all playing each other and will take points off each other. We have been simply c-ap this season.

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  • stuart no9

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #39

    the problem we have is not the players. in january ashly had a choice- buy players and give pards what he wants -or get rid of pards and get a manager in who could save us with the players we had ( and the players we had were in my opinion were good enough- just- to get us through) he made the wrong choice. – it dosnt matter who we buy, we will never play attractiive football , or more importantly have that winning mentality you need to be sussessful in the prem with this man in charge- never, get rid sooner rather than later, why not? who is going to do any worse than pardew? get shot now- before it is too late.

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  • MJCBurke

    Apr 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #40

    Stuart – dont think getting shot now will help, will completely disrupt anything we do. I know there is the age old new manager brings in new confidence etc but think that moment has gone now. For every pochetino there is an atkins. Best to stick with pardew till the summer, then sack and bring in someone we actually want instead of jumping on to another quick decision.

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