Restoring Geordie Pride – Easier Said Than Done


After the disaster on Sunday we could have guessed that when the players returned to training today we would hear talk that it’s time to restore the Geordie pride, after it was harpooned and almost killed on Sunday.

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Alan Pardew will now be under considerable pressure

That must be the mission of Alan Pardew and the Newcastle players in the last five weeks of the season, but after the worst defeat in 34 years on Sunday – and at home too – and against a Sunderland side who had only 3 points in the previous 27 they had contested that will not be easy – by any means.

This is some of what Pardew told the Evening Chronicle today:

“Next year we have to prove that we’re a bigger and better club.” “That’s in terms of our Premier League position by finishing well above them. “

“That’s what we are going to try to do next year.” “But first we’ve got to make sure we play well in the last five games with good, solid performances.”

We wouldn’t talk too much about next season until we’re mathematically sure we will be in the Premier League next season, because anything can happen with just five games to go, and Newcastle simply pathetic against the Black Cats.

After the complete humiliation and shame of Sunday’s defeat, there will still be 3,000 faithful Geordies travelling to West Brom on Saturday to support the lads, and great credit must go out to those fans who are travelling to the game.

It will take a win at the Hawthorns for Newcastle fans to start feeling better about our side – anything less than that will not hack it on Saturday.

Call me negative – but I’m simply being pragmatic.

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382 comments so far

  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #1

    Re post time mutha effers:

    Tai rid

    The chants are part and parcel of football. We can’t sing about colo shagging my wife all the time.

    I do think it is born out of respect for last season but I think those chants will dry up on reflection of this.

    Is that fickle? I don’t believe so. I think it’s a desire to support a manager who many felt could bring something to the table and unfortunately hasn’t.

    Many had excuses for the poor football matches of 2011-12 season but this year is the same football different results and that same football mentality, despite absolutely everything that has happened this season, is why we are where we are. We had teams beat more often than not and anti football came into the equation and now we are relying on other teams to get beat to stay up.

    Yet this man may keep his job.

    Pardew on a nutshell is Reading at home. Go for the kill rather than protect your 1-0 lead you moron.

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #2

    Tai rid?????

    Rainrix

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  • Guj NUFC

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #3

    Is it wrong to wish for a manager with artistic flair in his management to match the caliber of his players or am I just greedy! 🙁

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #4

    Sadly Pardew has go himself very thick with llambias and ashley so I fully expect him to still be here next season.

    What finally did it for me with pardew was when we were comfortably leading bottom club reading at home 1-0 and he took off marveaux and put on perch I think. The whole momentum was surrendered and lost. Just one example but there are many.

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #5

    What were we meant to be doing this year.

    Here he come with his own self deluded poppy cock setting his stall out to remain in charge next season!

    Maybe he shouldn’t talk about next season yet, this ones hardly a forgone conclusion.

    My God this man makes me want to vomit.

    We shouldn’t have to prove we’re better than a bottom 6 team, surely the players, stadium and fans do that.

    Only the manager is the bottom 6 quality dragging us down.

    Go back to Leauge 1 you smarmy git.

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  • Guj NUFC

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #6

    PSG’s director of football Leonardo says he wants to bring #NUFC midfielder Yohan Cabaye back to France in the summer
    “It would be beautiful if we can bring Ribéry, Nasri and Cabaye back to France in the summer”
    Well..

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  • Rainrix

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #7

    Beattie… I guess we’ll have to disagree on that one. Considering it was only our 2nd season back in the PL 5th was astonishing. Theres no guarantee that if we did attack more we’d have more points we could’ve easily conceded more goals and drawn or lost games. Maybe we would’ve got 3rd maybe not.

    Besides i have no doubt if we hadn’t lost taylor and colo in one fell swoop against chelsea we would’ve got 3rd or 4th as we wouldnt have had to play willo and simmo at CB against norwich and swansea. if we got 6 points there instead of 1 that would’ve been enough for 3rd.

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #8

    Were? Where!!

    Arregghhhhhh iPhone I hat you

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  • Rainrix

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #9

    Beattie… Thats a really weird autocorrect is tai even a word? Can it not spell thai correctly. 🙂

    Also i think you grabbed the wrong post 😉

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  • Shane

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #10

    Alan Pardew could take a better corner kick than cabaye and Marveaux.

    It’s criminal that we don’t score any goals from corners. The corners are terrible and when we do manage to get it past the first defender Steven Taylor has missed to many headers.

    Our midfield and defenders need to chip in with goals over the season, they haven’t.

    We basically rely on Cisse to score every game.

    Is this Alan Pardews fault? No. The players have had ample chances and shots at goal so we can’t say they’re not getting in the positions because of Pardews tactics, because they damn well are! Every game i find myself more than once screaming oh for feck sake, place the ball, have a bit more composure, stop trying to thump in a screamer!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #11

    Have to love a post correcting your own spelling (or auto correct) just to make another one.

    Beattie…I take my hate off to you 🙂

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #12

    Troy

    Thee were a lot of extenuating circs in finishing 5th last season and a complete one off in his CV over nearly 15 seasons.

    While I don’t think we could get a top manager we could surely find a young up and coming one used to winning which is something Pardew has never been despite his ridiculous ”I’m a winner” claim!!!.

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  • BandB

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #13

    I go out through the park, and only got to see the full extent of the trouble for the first time today. I find it hard to believe all, or even most, of those people had come up from the pubs.
    Too much testosterone around lads. It’ll take more than a couple of wins to restore my Geordie pride. Don’t want to talk about football now. It just seems like an excuse for a fight.

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #14

    Rainrix

    Last season was a piece of shit polished, wrapped and presented in a gift box with a nice little pink bow wrapped around it.

    Speaking in footballing terms it was awful, almost as bad as this season.

    We finished 5th due to individual brilliance of the players, other teams being shite and huge amounts of luck.

    Pardew stood there fist pumping and taking all the credit and most looked at the table a d forgot about the 38 games. He won you over because you all thought and I quote ‘he knows how to win’.

    Eff off. He thinks he knows how not to lose but that’s about it. Wide boy chancer who took credit for a lot of things he didn’t do

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  • John Tudor

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #15

    lets have a tirade of abuse befall pardew

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  • boater

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #16

    I can’t see how we can turn things around under his stewardship. We aren’t as good a team as people make out, but we haven’t looked like we knew how to win a game all season, no matter who we played.

    The offensive tactics aren’t working. Sissoko behind Cisse is the latest pallid looking forward combo. It worked for 2 games, then stagnated for the following 6, but still we are sticking to it.

    No point lambasting Jonas or Tiote or whoever. The problem is with the team-mind set going into games.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #17

    BandB…A couple of wins is needed, but you’re right it wont restore anything at this stage in time. A lot of damage has been done and everyone needs some time.

    We however, do need some points first before anyone can have a chance to reflect -otherwise that reflection period will be really painful work, more so than it already is.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #18

    Before Raylor got injured Benny couldn’t get a game.
    Pardew was forced into playing a system to accommodate benny, ba and Cisse and it worked spectacularly.

    But then what a moron for turning his back on it when we could have got a CL place. he pandered to ba for over half a season and never rotated him and cisse or played someone else left in a front 3 like Marveaux. Pardew basically has a huge imagination deficit

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #19

    Ibiza

    I want to kiss you

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #20

    * kill you not kiss you

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #21

    * kick you not kill you

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  • Beattie25 - Anti Pardew Crew

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #22

    * pick you not kick you

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #23

    Beattie…Could this be the start of a Romeo and Juliet thing? How do you look in a nice frock?

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  • Shane

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #24

    Alan Pardew could take a better corner kick than cabaye and Marveaux.

    It’s criminal that we don’t score any goals from corners. The corners are terrible and when we do manage to get it past the first defender Steven Taylor alone has missed too many headers.

    Our midfield and defenders need to chip in with goals over the season, they haven’t.

    We basically rely on Cisse to score every game.

    Is this Alan Pardews fault? No. The players have had ample chances and shots at goal so we can’t say they’re not getting in the positions because of Pardews tactics, because they damn well are! Every game i find myself more than once screaming oh for Christ sake, place the ball, have a bit more composure, stop trying to thump in a screamer! This is not Alan’s fault.

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  • daztoon

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #25

    With Pardew it doesn’t matter if you come in and play well,you still don’t keep the shirt over his favourites

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #26

    🙂

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  • Jackel001

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #27

    Guj NUFC

    He’ll need to spend around 70-80 mil at least on just those three. And the amount of quality players, would cabs get a game?

    On the West Brom game, i’d be happy with a point with our away record being so poor. I honestly believe we could get all 3 points when the scousers come up here

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  • Rainrix

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #28

    Beattie… Sorry i would like to continue this debate but i actually have to do some work for once. Can ibiza take up my point and you can debate with him seeing as you’ll be visiting brokeback together soon? Thanks you’re a darling toodles 🙂

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #29

    shane

    we are where we are because of poor tactics devised by our manager

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #30

    maybe if he worked a lot more on attacking rather than shutting up shop the chances would be going in. lots of luck last season, found out this, as per his CV

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  • stuart no9

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #31

    why cant we follow chelsea fans. make a point ( the chelsae way) in letting pardew know he is not welcome at our club any more. the chelsea fans do it relentlesly every week , and hes not doing to bad.- imagine pardew in charhe of – chelsea- man u – liverpool , he wouldnt be there by 5 mins , those fans would have him out before he f…cked their club up, and why? because they care, – i really think , most newcastle fans are quite happy to meet up with their mates on a saturday . have a few ,- go to the game, win or lose- it dosnt matter, at least theyve had a good day out, maybe that is why we havnt won anything for 55 years, we dont voice our opinion s as much as we should. all the big clubs are gutted when they havnt won a cup in 2 years , we give our support to a manager who is totally – totally fu///cking useless,- so maybe we are to blame as well.

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  • GeordieDan

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #32

    Why are NUFC supposedly taking it easy with Colo when he’s going to leave next month?

    Play him now, play him every second of every match. I love the bloke but if we’re going to get peanuts for him from San Lorenzo then why protect him anyway?

    NUFC’s need is greater than his right now and I’m sure his monumental salary can appease him for a few games! Get us to safety for next season first then he can go wherever he likes if that’s really what he wants.

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  • brian kilclines pony tail

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #33

    pardews basic mistakes, im sure i will have missed a few but these are my main gripes with him.

    1) if you keep saying you’re tired you will become tired, its a mental thing.
    2) stop inviting teams onto us.
    3) the only person to think jonas is a left back is maradona – and he’s high as a kite most of the time.
    4) sissoko is not an attacking midfielder, even the france manager took the mick out of this.
    5) stop giving shola new contracts.
    6) do some fitness exercises with your players, these are handy when playing for 90 mins, strengthening training will only hinder the speed of your players and increase the chance of injury.
    7) do some more passing and moving training.
    8) do more attacking training.
    9) find someone who can actually correctly assess the quality of out youth players, either you cant do it or you have been misinformed – see sammy’s at boro doing nothing at championship level.
    10) practice alternative set plays.
    11) find a way to play ben arfa and marveux together, shouldn’t be too hard if you only play with one up top.

    most of these issues have been obvious to me for 2 seasons but have not been improved upon meaning that he can’t train the players to become better players.
    since mike ashley is all about adding value to players purchased this is not what he wants and i feel will be the real reason he gets sacked in the end.

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  • Shane

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #34

    Rotonda heights

    We are not!

    We are where we are because of a whole variety of reasons, yes including Pardew’s decisions but not solely so!

    The negativity towards Alan Pardew is warranted but he is not the reason we are where we are, he is just 1 of the reasons.

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  • GeordieDan

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #35

    And why is Beattie trying to kick, kiss and kill everybody today? 😀

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  • boater

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #36

    Shane – I would say it is Pardew’s fault. In the absence of an attacking tactical system/approach, the players are taking frustrated punts from distance. Shite teams always resort to it.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #37

    @stuart

    Talk sense please.

    We’ve just managed to lose our tag of hounding managers out their posts!

    You must be young if you can’t recall the vitriol shown towards Souness, fat Sam and Gullit, not to mention the earlier years of Gordon Lee, Richard Dinnis, Jack Charlton.

    We have a long history of persuading our chairmen to sack out managers.

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  • Shane

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #38

    I get the negativity aimed at Pardew, i really do.

    However, you have to accept it is not entirely his fault where we are!

    People always want someone to blame.

    We sold our top goal scorer mid way through the season ffs. We didn’t strenthen in the summer after such a good season! Are these Alan Pardews fault???

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  • BandB

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #39

    Ibiza

    When I was a kid, I had uncles and cousins who worked in the pits on the other side of the river and had lived in and around Durham for a couple of generations. Some of them supported Sunderland. A lot from pit backgrounds had relatives over the water. We didn’t call them Mackem Scum, because they were no poorer than us. They died just as easily as us.
    There was no need for football to create a false sense of jeopardy. Life WAS dangerous. What I REALLY can’t understand is people buying into this tribalism who have selected our club to support off the shelf (and I am NOT saying that’s you. Really not.)
    Keep your spirits up, til mine are restored.

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  • brian kilclines pony tail

    Apr 16, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #40

    shane, he was the one assessing the squad, he didnt highlight how poor our squad was, either that or he didnt know.

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