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Pardew Now Worried About Yohan Cabaye

3:02 pm, Thursday, April 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 454 Comments

The Newcastle boss Alan Pardew has said today the Newcastle squad are now physically and mentally fit following the Sunderland debacle, although the manager seems a little worried about our current captain Yohan Cabaye.

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Yohan Cabaye – under pressure

Yohan played last summer in the Euros for France, and he was one of their best players, but it was the first time he hadn’t had a full rest in the summer, and the Frenchman admitted that he had suffered a little from depression at the start of the season, mainly because his body was so tired.

And Pardew gave Yohan the captaincy, after Fabricio Coloccini did his back in at the end of February, when trying that (daft) overhead kick against Southampton, in the 4-2 win – and he’s been out of the side ever since.

Alan Pardew had this to say today about Yohan:

“Cabaye is probably my biggest worry. The rest of them are really sound physically and mentally.” “But Cabaye is our best player in terms of intelligence on the pitch and he needs to play. That’s why he has played almost every minute.”

Newcastle are five points above the drop zone, and we were humiliated last Sunday against Sunderland, who had amassed only three points in their previous nine games, but got their biggest win against Newcastle since 1979, in a result that has shocked and angered Newcastle fans.

And it didn’t help when the manager said after the game the players were exhausted, and it looked like a rather poor excuse for a devastating result.

But Newcastle fans deserve a good and courageous performance on Saturday at West Brom, and we still have to get six points to be safe in the Premier League this season.

So we hope Yohan is OK, and the lads certainly need our full support in the final five games of the season, and so does the manager Alan Pardew.

Calls for Pardew to be fired, with five important games still to go in the season may not be appropriate or timely at this time, since we are still fighting relegation.

Let’s support the side through the end of the season, and maybe we can then have a really good summer of transfers into and out of the club, and certainly from our results this season in the Premier League, that’s exactly what we seem to need.

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454 responses so far ↓

  • 1 martoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    I think Ed is having a dig at the anti-Pardew brigade 😉

  • 2 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:09 PM


    Reading between the lines of your extremely diplomatic posts, it seems to me that you are worried that a better manager would put too many demands on the board thus causing more disruption.

    Of course Pardew is obedient and beholding!

    Where else will he ever find the opportunity to manage a massive club with a massive following in a fabulous stadium with a fabulous squad of well scouted talented players.

    Managing NUFC is no longer the poisoned chalice it once was.
    We have an owner who has paid for his learning but looking to take the club forward in a business like sustainable way and the best supporters any manager could wish for.
    Bringing in a new manager doesnt have to be a major upheaval and restructuring process.

    Southampton are a good example where just a fresh modern manager can improve things very quickly without huge changes behind the scenes,

    Show some ambition man!!!

    I m sure there are plenty of better managers than Pardew who would love to come to us.

    A few more additions in the summer and a better manager is all we need. The rest is already in place.

  • 3 leeb1982 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    For f ske pardew you baffle me. “But Cabaye is our best player in terms of intelligence on the pitch.” then why play him in such a negative role where hes having so little effect on games

  • 4 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    beattie25 @195 -previous post.
    I do not know if it my computer malfunctioning or not -but you may have made a typing error in the above post. Due to certain letters on a QWERTY keyboard being adjacent to one another I think it may be possible that when you were typing the letter “r” you also accidentally hit the “d” and “e” keys.

  • 5 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Repost from last thread:

    Plans for the day have fallen through so I’m back 😀

    Wow, it seems in my absence that Beattie has been saying some incredibly nice things about to say the very least. While I would say intellectual behemoth to be way above my station, I do feel a tinge of pride at the accolade so I thank thank thee kind sir but come one come all and let us discuss all things NUFC.

    And like many of you I’ve just done the BBC predictor, and I did it by being overly harsh on NUFC (I gave us 3 defeats and 2 draws) and even with a dreadful finish we still stay up with Stoke being the third team relegated, I struggle to think where they are going to pick up their points, (I was also very kind to Wigan giving them 2 unlikely victories in their last 6)

    I think we’ll pick up more than 2 pts in the last 5 games though so we should be ok.

  • 6 TOONALE // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    All the team should be up for the next game.
    But we will not win at West Brom.
    2.1 to West Brom.

  • 7 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    He’s running out of excuses now the Europa league is over. He really needs to pull his finger out this weekend.
    If we get beat & others around us win, we’re in deep shi*…

  • 8 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Mister Tuff

    When you take an illiterate fool with IT dyslexia and present to him an iPhone with predictive text I’m afraid the results can be very odd to some.

  • 9 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM


    Paragon of knowledge?

  • 10 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    So now the players are sound physically and mentally how quick they recover

  • 11 south coast toon // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    dribble absolute dribble,these blokes are payed huge amouts of money to be fit and play the game they love, they make me sick, best they get on a crabbing boat hauling 1500 crabpots a day through a harsh winter like we have just had for next to nothing wages for 25 years watching friends get killed and injured for 20- 30 grand ayear, i give em depressed running round with gloves on mentally stressed and worn out get alife these lot have a privelaged life copared to us a they all dribble sh1t, why dont they try some hard work if playing footy for 50 grand plus a week is to much for bloody spoilt brats.god slap him round the head and tell him to man up get on and do what hes paid for, cor hes aving a laugh ,get in the real wourld cor can never remember anyone coming out with dribble like that when joe jorden and the likes of norman hunter were around,depressed how the hell do they think all of us feel

  • 12 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM


    Humble servant to the blog 😉

  • 13 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Betty…You clearly have read through my posts, but I think you miss an important point.

    It’s not about the attraction of our club, as you are absolutely right and on the face of it many decent managers would love the chance.

    They may even get over the initial hurdles etc.

    You are basing a lot on the idea that Ashley has learned his lessons and is now going to take us full steam ahead. Maybe that is true, I hope so. If it is the case, then I would actually expect to see a new and better manager arrive and I’d have no problem with that.

    Still, as and when or if Ashley doesn’t stick to the plan, is said manager going to keep schtum like Pardew has / does?

    What is it Ashley wants? An okay manager that will play his game or is he willing to go for bigger and better but face up to it may not all be on his terms.

    That’s where my main issue lies and I haven’t seen anything from Ashley to make me believe it would be different.

    As I say, if he is, then surely he will replace Pardew anyway, if he’s that bad and isn’t doing as Ashley wants then he wont keep him here.

    All will become clear this summer imo. For now, I am happy enough with what I consider realistic ambition.

    I do agree though, a lot of foundations are in place.

  • 14 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Catching up…I thought it had been decided that Ruddy was an over educated spoiled brat or is that the same as what Beattie said?

  • 15 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Beattie25 @8 – I think my attempt at humour has been wasted. My joke lies in what you typed -can only be revealed if you re-read your post and look for the r,d and e.
    Well I thought it was funny.

  • 16 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM


    I left out the spoiled

  • 17 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Ruddy…I did the predictor as well. Gave us three draws and two losses which I thought was more or less fair.

    Was over the top nice to Sunderland and Wigan, imo anyway and we still finished above them both.

    Whilst not pretty and we still need to get our points, I don”t think we’ll be going down.

  • 18 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Beattie…Fair enough, we all make mistakes.

  • 19 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM


    On your wavelength now.

  • 20 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    I did the predictor and we finished 2nd.

    I must have used last seasons or something.

    Ill have another crack.

  • 21 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Beattie…Don’t! 2nd sounds great, good work…that is unless you were doing a handstand and we were 2nd bottom?

  • 22 always look on the bright side of life // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    I have QPR, Reading and Aston Villa going down and us finishing 16th. I think weve been poor but others around us either have a harder run in or are playing even worse i.e stoke.
    I hope thats what happens are what villa fans did when we went down but either way, i think and hope we should just about get through ok for the season and have chance to regroup.

  • 23 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Ibiza still on that fence I see…

  • 24 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    I have Villa going down but us only staying up by 2 points on 39 points equal to Norwich and Wigan.

  • 25 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    I think we will stay up JUST its the thought of another season of dour football under Pardew i couldn`t take.What does it take to drop Jonas.Pardew would rather play him out of position than drop him to the bench

  • 26 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Is there a joke in here?

    Hey everybody, I’m looking for a Joe Kinnear!

    Joe Kinnear to replace Alan Pardew with Charles Insomnia as his assistant and Jermaine fish-bowl Jenas as assitant to the assistant manager. Oh, and we need another Dennis Wise type appointment as football director to bring in another Gonzales.

    This blog is sending me loopy.

  • 27 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM


    I couldn’t do a handstand even if you were holding my ankles.

  • 28 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Were’s this predictor thing ??

    I think we’ll beat Qpr, and lose all the rest to be honest.

  • 29 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Belfast…Aye, still sat here waiting for you to join me, you c**t.

    Beattie…Are you questioning my ankle holding abilities?

  • 30 chuck // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Calls for Pardew’s firing may not be appropriate ?
    Thats just an opinion like everyone elses, we have our own take on Pardew.
    And to hear that old refrain, just get behind the team, is like the three monkeys, See, Hear and Speak, no evil.
    Perhaps you should write something representing reality on this blog, instead of being a cheerleading homer, who only writes PR stuff.

  • 31 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:45 PM


    The main point is that many of us were sceptical about Pardews credentials and playing style before he started.

    We were warned by Stewart Robson that Pardew would always be an old fashioned long ball type of manager.
    In one of his first interviews he patronisingly stated that us Geordies would only ever accept exciting attacking football.
    The main gripe for lots of us is that he obviously has his ideas of how to win matches and all the patronising bullshit for the past 2 and a half years has finally caught up with him.
    I can t believe how he has got away with winging it so long.

    Like I said earlier a couple more additions to the squad and any new manager would have everything at his disposal to succeed.

    There will be plenty of teams next season with far tighter budgetary restraints than us, as there are currently in the PL.
    Everton are an example of what can be achieved on a tight budget without people making demands and falling out.

  • 32 blondie71 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Why doesn’t pardew put cabaye on the bench no point in playin him if he’s totally goosed

  • 33 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Belfast…Aye, still sat here, waiting for you, ya tw@.

    Beattie…Are you questioning my ankle holding abilities?

  • 34 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM


    In a matter of speaking yes. You have a decent record at championship level ankle holding but this is the premiership. I want someone who can take my ankles to the next level.

  • 35 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:48 PM


    Is that the same interview where he says Pardew will try to pass it off as good football but it is just old fashioned long ball tactics.

  • 36 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    what type of player is gonna want to join us giving we arn`t in any euro competitions just avoided relegation with a manger playing a defensive style of football.Not to mention we could lose Cabaye,Santon,Colo

  • 37 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Ibiza the worlds most placid blogger.

    Until Blefast appears and then the civilised mind goes primal.

  • 38 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM


    It could work to our advantage. What club will want to sign players who have struggled all season and look like they don’t put a shift in. It might allow us to keep our better players as nobody will bid big and Ash won’t accept buttons.

    Then we sign players who will still be attracted but players like PEA and Sakho and various others won’t be interested in a team like ours unless we get a decent name as a manager.

  • 39 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    They wont sack him anyway, probably half way through next season, they might give him the chop.

    If he wasn’t on an 8 year deal, he would be gone already, in my opinion.

    The football has been awful to watch all season long.
    We’re basically Stoke with lip stick on. 😉

  • 40 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    If I ever find that fence you’re on, i’m going to set it on fire.

  • 41 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Yeah and player`s like Anita and Marv been fit just about all season have probably played less games than the player`s who came in in Jan.

  • 42 obafemi martins // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    if i was blind, deaf, mute and on a life support machine, i would still find out about sunderland winning on sunday. Never known a team to milk a win so much

  • 43 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Ibiza Burnt by popular demand ……

  • 44 toon kk // Apr 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Sad to say but I think we’ll be relying on other teams results. We have to many lackluster premformaces. To many players out of position and bad tactics by Pards doesn’t help. Andy Carroll was like a charging bull last night against man u, would take him back but would probably need Joey back to supply him!!! We need pace and flair. Desperately need a new striker but Pards would probably play him out of position.

  • 45 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Beattie…Belfast taught me well…sadly it only works when he’s about…the horrible c**t :)

    As for me being a championship level ankle holder…guilty as charged, but I will try harder. But please don’t worry, your ankles are definitely at the next level.

    Betty…Sorry, what is it we’re discussing now, Pardew or Ashley? You had mentioned my reasoning was based on what Ashley would do and what we can attract as a replacement with him making the decisions and I don’t know what Pardew, his record or peoples opinion of him have to do with that.

    Sorry, I am in and out at the minute on calls, so may be missing the point, it wouldn’t be the first time.

    I do understand your views on Pardew and can go along with them to a certain extent, but on what basis do you think that Ashley will get better and if he can’t get better should we change just because we’ve had enough of Pardew?

    Once again, apologies, this isn’t worded well at all.

  • 46 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Ibiza – do not be frightened of the threats to your fence -I understand you are made of “sterner stuff “(giggle giggle snort snort).

  • 47 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Don`t think even a little fire could get Ibizatoon off that fence

  • 48 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Belfast…I thought you weren’t allowed to play with lighters or matches? Something about not having the mental age to cope with such responsibilities?

  • 49 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Tuff…Going through me to have a dig at another poster? Really? :)

    Daz…How about a big fire?

  • 50 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM


    That was the interview on Sky like you say where he predicted exactly what would happen.

    He rightly predicted that he only has one way of playing but that he would con and bullshit everyone that he was in touch with the modern game and would provide a fast attacking team as nothing less would be acceptable to the Geordie fans.

    He hasn t provided that and probably never had any intention of doing so.
    I would so like someone to confront him on these issues and show him the recent long ball stats.
    Someone who can t be fobbed off with the normal list of excuses as they have no bearing whatsoever on his outdated playing style.

    I agree that we should give him and the team our full support till the end of the season but I am sure that many more people are seeing through all the spiel and patronising , smarmy crap that he spouts.

    Underestimating the intelligence of the Geordie folk will not do you any good Mr. Pardew.

  • 51 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Maybe sit a waxwork of Maggie Thatcher at your side and tell some yorkshire miners where you are

  • 52 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    ibiza -could not resist it but fair point.

  • 53 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Realistic signings and outgoings if we stay up:


    Harper, Simpson, Guti, Gosling, Obertan, Williamson, Moyo, Dummett, Newton, Tavernier.


    Taarabt, Remy, Vlaar, Simon Moore (Brentford Goalkeeper), Will Hughes (Derby CM), Sam Bryam (Leeds RB), Harry Magurie (Sheffield Utd CB), Matt Phillips (Blackpool WG) and Nathan Redmond (Birmingham City CF).

    Gk – Krul, Elliot, Moore
    RB – Debuchy, Byram (U21)
    CB – Mapou, Vlaar, Saylor, Maguire (U21), Good (U21)
    LB – Sanotn, Haidara (U21)
    DM – Anita, Tiote, Sissoko, Perch, Bigi (U21)
    AM – Cabaye, Amalfitano, Marveaux, Hughes (U21)
    LW – Taarabt, Ferguson
    RW – Ben Arfa, Phillips
    CF – Cisse, Remy, Redmond, Ameobi, Campbell (U21)

  • 54 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    chuck @29 shame on you!

  • 55 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    My team would have flair, creativity and the future would be mainly British youngsters.

    Best of all its be cheap!

  • 56 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    No point in starting Cabaye, we have Anita or Marveaux who can replace him and do a job.

    He must be tired and depressed from seeing the ball being hoofed over his head.

    Not many were calling for Pardew to be sacked immediately.
    I wanted him sacked after the FA Cup debacle.
    After the final whistle of the season blows seems like a good time.

    He’s a good talker, but tactically and style wise he’s really poor.
    I feel really sorry for the traveling away supporters, they’ve paid thousands to watch some dire stuff.
    I just watch free streams and I’m sick of watching us give the ball away cheaply and our dead ball kicks are woeful.

    A change is needed.

  • 57 nufc786 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM

  • 58 alf // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Pardew has to go

  • 59 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Alan Pardew –

    “I love working here, and love the fans.” “They’ve been great for me – they give me great respect and that’s all I want.”

    “I don’t want anything else, not undying love, I just want respect. I do a tough job and I do it to the best of my ability.”

    “It’s difficult, and I’m looking forward to a rest,” “It’s demanding, but I have say I love it.”

    He said this at the end of last season. The man has a lot of class. Sadly, that can not be said about many of the “fans” who want him gone. I love a debate on whether he is the right man to lead us forward etc but constant slating of the bloke and blaming him for an entire season of failings is just unbelievable.

    John Carver also spoke so highly of him when he was dragged by Pardew to the LMA awards.

    There were quotes about Pardew going in to the office at 7:30 every morning where most managers will see their players for the first time Wednesday morning each week.

    He works hard, Cabaye tired!? Pardew tired i will accept!

  • 60 ErnestHemingway // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM


    I agree with that article. It’s only the last two games since returning in January that Cabaye has struggled. When he first came back into the team he looked as excellent as ever.

  • 61 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Ed spoke alot of sense at the end of the post and and i dont understand why some of you cant see that, loads of injuries and half a dozen new players. what makes you think that another manager would have faired any better?

  • 62 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM


    Sorry I think your on the wrong blog. You were probable looking for:

  • 63 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Tuff…I’m sure we’ll all survive.

    Daz…We’re discussing a way to get me off my fence, not have me lynched :)

    Betty…An interesting idea and would be interested to see / hear his replies. I don’t see how it would work really as everyone already has their minds made up and all he can do is give what people consider lame “excuses”.

    I suppose if he is in fact lying we could see him cry.

  • 64 robin // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Ed you burk Sunderland beat toon

  • 65 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Cabaye deserves a rest when the job is done. No sooner.

  • 66 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    just make sure its a metal fence and you’ll be fine ibiza 😀

  • 67 ErnestHemingway // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    I was talking about external influences that are out of the managers control and I believe there have been many at this club this season that Pardew has had to contend with.

    Aston Villa have had similar outside influences ruining their season. Injuries, lack of funding, having to play youngsters and of course there captain Stan Petrov being diagnosed with leukaemia. I think if Villa stay up this season, they will be a lot stronger and better for it next season.

    And I believe both us and Villa will stay up.

  • 68 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Looking at some of the fixtures ahead for the teams around us reveals that quite a few of the teams play each other -which to my mind suggests points lost to those teams to either catch us or draw away from us. We really
    need another win -hopefully on Saturday. I think it is clear that Reading and QPR are already gone. The other interesting games in question are:-
    West Ham v Wigan
    Stoke v Norwich
    Aston Villa v Sunderland
    Norwich v Aston Villa
    Sunderland v Stoke
    Wigan v Aston Villa

    Some of the clubs around us have hard games against those at the top which should help. Whilst I would prefer Wigan to go down Villa really look they might be candidates.

  • 69 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Wait…this isn’t

    2 years of my life wasted on you lot.

    Who should I blame? Pardew?

  • 70 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    “Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM


    Sorry I think your on the wrong blog. You were probable looking for:”

    No mate, i’m definitely logged in to the Newcastle United Football Club Blog. YOu see, i support the team and when thing’s aren’t going so well i support them more so.

    I shall direct you this to find what you are looking for…

  • 71 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Its funny because I have more friends on than I do on Facebook.

  • 72 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    sean…Good idea :)

    Interesting article on Cabaye. Whilst it angers a lot of us, given the amount they get paid to do a job we’d all love to do, we cannot assume what toll it takes mentally and physically on a player.

    Let’s see how they perform with a normal schedule.

    Great to hear Bernard confirm how much he loves it here.

    “that if you sell Cabaye, Yohan Cabaye, you’re gonna have a riot on your hands”

  • 73 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    oooh i see.

    Guys if you were all sat in the pub discussing the Toon would you be treating each other so poorly?

    i think not


  • 74 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    i must say i would be gutted if he was sold tbh

  • 75 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    You have friends? Real friends? Like, real life friends? Haha.

    Although you do sometimes have really meaty opinions that are a good read you nearly always manage to ruin what you have to say by being self indulgent and generally quite narrow minded.

    Your onions though valid are not Gospel my friend.

  • 76 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM


    I agree it takes it toll. But this is more or less asking for time off during the fight for survival. If we win the next 2, give him the rest of the season off. Until then you fight through depression and fatigue to save the future of the club.

    People like Cabaye will be ok whatever next season. If we go down we won’t be.

  • 77 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    sean…I really would. I know he hasn’t been at his best this season, but there are clearly reasons for that.

    Lack of rest from Euros.
    Being played too far back*

    I mentioned the other day that whilst not his best position, with Tiote being out as much as he has and Anita not quite taking to the position yet I can see why Cabaye has been played further back. It’s all well and good having him further up field, but you need to be able to get the ball there. I guess that’s the thinking, I realise in practice it hasn’t quite worked out that way.

    Basically, I hope he stays. Although he isn’t quite the captain I thought he’d be yet, but then neither is / was Colo.

  • 78 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM


    I’ve been told it a 100 times today so to quote B Rabbit:

    “Here, tell these people somethin’ they don’t know about me”

  • 79 Tsunki // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Paint it on the side of a bark, set it on fire and let it drift out into the Straits of Juan de Fuqua, Belfast.

    Is it t late to be associated with a geometric shape? I think I would like to be ‘Tsunki – Mobius Strip of the Blog’ If that’s okey dokey by you lot. If its not then I won’t.

  • 80 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM


    I dont think Ashley is planning any drastic, disruptive changes to his plans for taking the club forward.

    Contrary to many peoples views that Ashley is looking to sell players , which is stirred up by TV pundits and commentators, other than AC who had to be sold for that money there is no evidence of this.

    Ashley wants value for money when he buys anything and to have a re sale value makes sense when you buy, whatever it is.
    However I dont think he would dismantle the team for a modest profit.
    That is the point I was making earlier that we don t need to put up with Pardews inadequacies for fear that Ashley might clash with the new guy.

    Ashley will spend his money as he sees fit which he s entitled to do and as long as any new recruit is made aware of his plans for the future and accepts them then I really can t see that Ashley would need to make promises and not keep them.
    I m sure he wants success like we all do but Pardews limitations will definitely prevent progress.

  • 81 woolerbill // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Cabaye is no more important than any other player. We have players that Par dew talk up to superman heights. We are an average team down on our luck, looking or other clubs to save us.

  • 82 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Beattie…I’m with you on that. There may of course be extreme circumstances, but within reason I do agree.

    I wasn’t actually commenting in reflection to getting time off now, just a commentary on general opinion that as they’re professional athletes they should just be able to keep going and going – there is a line and I don’t think many know where it is, I certainly don’t (not that I’m not a great example of an athlete, he says with a cigarette in hand *cough cough*).

  • 83 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Why is everyone on this blog taking mushrooms?

  • 84 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM


    I concur.

  • 85 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    tbh i think the team and not just cab’s will be alot differant next season, sadly this ones a right off, i do think we will stay up.

  • 86 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    If an arrogant man knows he has flaws does that make him humble, or does the fact he overcomes these flaws make him even more arrogant?

  • 87 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM


    Thanks for boosting moral.

  • 88 Tsunki // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Beattie – and you aren’t ? :)

  • 89 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    And here comes the 5 o’clock lull

  • 90 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    mushrooms haha

  • 91 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Just remember that this is only the end of year 2 of Pardew’s 5 year plan. A dip in the plan perhaps but 3 more years to go. He is building a team he is evolving his game, he is learning how best to play the current bunch and filter in the youngsters. Above all this he is super passionate and hard working. He has the qualities and attitude to make a success of this club and I hope he is around long enough to prove it.

  • 92 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    no worries beattie25, we all have our place 😀

  • 93 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    I think I am tripping like a six year old school girl running down the street with untied shoe laces.

  • 94 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    @Beattie To quote it Yonas. Someone please call 911 look at what this young fly boy done done all the girls put’n up there pony tails and run. Giggle

    Wor yohan needs a very long rest vacation maby then he will be fine again.

  • 95 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Betty…I am with you 100% with regards to selling players. AC went for huge money, I didn’t want him to go but I would have accepted that. Barton? Had to go. Nolan, whilst I’d have liked to have kept, understand why we didn’t. Being a selling club, out of normal circumstances, is a myth imo.

    Someone mentioned earlier, that maybe Pardews biggest mistake was not demanding the players last summer. I raised the question does anyone think he’d still have been in a job?

    That is more my point. Ashley wants someone who wont rock the boat. We’ve seen it with players and managers under Ashley and whilst there have been great improvements, I’m not sure that is something Ashley will tolerate.

    That’s not to say we can’t find a manager that would work well with him and be better than Pardew, but I do wonder whether Ashley would actually choose that man.

    If he picks the right one, I am all for it. Thanks Alan, but we move on. Pardew hasn’t driven me to the point where I need him out now, so want to wait for the right man.

    That is all.

    Tsunki..Crack on mate, crack on.

  • 96 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Pardews 5 year plan?

    I thought it was Ashley’s? No, it was Llambias’s!

    No hang on it was ibiza’s. or was it Olivier Bernard’s?

    So many 5 year plans in the 8 year deal. I’m tripping like a partially sighted man clipping a 2 foot high curb.

  • 97 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Whose Bogarting the shrooms?

  • 98 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    P ardew does have his faults, but lets face it we all loved it when he went to the crowed in the game before.
    am i right!

  • 99 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Have got to agree with Ed, now is not the time to change managers. I am not going to apologise for giving Pardew some credit but if nothing else he has been part of bringing some stability to the squad. Some of us on here have short memories and forget that it wasn’t long ago that some of the players were causing problems in the dressing room and probably led to the demise of Hughton. At least now all of the squad appear to be happy with life, if not the results.

    Yes, too many of the performances have been awful and Pardew must take much of the blame but how many games have we seen all of our ‘stars’ struggling to pass the ball? How many decent crosses have we seen? The players must take some of the blame.

    I don’t think Pardew is going anywhere soon because I am fairly confident that we will stay up, all we can hope for is that he has learned a lot this season and re-evaluates himself for the next.

  • 100 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Who knows. Maybe by year 8 Pardew will finally learn how to coach taking corners and not just giving possession back to the opposing team from goal kicks. :) .

  • 101 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM


    We should have rap battles on the blog. That would be the shizzle

  • 102 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Pardew wasn’t running to the crowd. He was running away after a terrible display and a 0-0 draw.

    Cisse scored and he just went with it.

  • 103 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    gotta go, later guys 😀

  • 104 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM



    No need for the extra “s”. This is not your iPhone’s fault and no i am not the Grammar police.

  • 105 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    HAHA beattie cheer up man

  • 106 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    I can barely muster up a 5 minute plan, so I’m ruling myself out of that one.

    Sean…Loved it and watched it a few times after.

    Beattie…Not much or a rapper, but i’ll yodel y’all to the death.

  • 107 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    As I wrote earlier I’m illiterate.

    Again you can’t really insult people with things they already know.


  • 108 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Big Pappa Cisse.

    Pardew is the manager not the coach.

    Blaming Pardew for our woeful set pieces is misguided.

  • 109 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    My boy Ibizatoon

    Yodel like a mutha effer

  • 110 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Take it easy Sean.

  • 111 Hatem // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Just was remembering Laurent Robert’s brace against the spuds, was that really ten years ago, i’ve never seen anyone score two better goals in the same game, I remember them both going in to the goal of the season competition, ahh memories.

  • 112 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Although pardrew has been consistently making blunders this season looking back at the fulham game after cisse’s goal is starting to make me think maby we should stick by him for another season. Perhaps he just needs a staff upgrade or an assistant manager to help him out.

  • 113 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:03 PM


    Give your laptop back to your parents and go and watch spongebob.

  • 114 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Beattie…How was that? Impressed?

  • 115 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Is spongebob on? Catch you lot later…

    “who lives in a pineapple under the sea”

    *giggles with excitement*

  • 116 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Wow was that you?

    It sounded like the mating call of an adult Yak.

    Utterly inspiring. Do they do Ibiza’s got talent?

  • 117 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    I like Patrick. He’s my favourite star fish ever!

  • 118 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM


    Shouldn’t you be spending your time looking for love online?

  • 119 PAULNUFC // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Shane pardew dont start at 7.30 every morning….9.30 half hour before the players

  • 120 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Beattie…Thought you’d be impressed. There aren’t many that aren’t.

    I’m not sure actually, but if they did, I think it would be unfair for me to compete. Plus I don’t want to become a sell out, I do what I do for the love of yodeling…and adult yaks sex lives.

  • 121 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:11 PM


    I think I already have


  • 122 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM


    How humble of you

  • 123 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM


    Somebody quoted that Pardew was in the office every morning at 7:30, Ed did an article on it at the end of last season.

    It was a definite quote.
    I didn’t create it.

  • 124 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Actually have to go…this episode is too much. Back later.

  • 125 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    @ Shane

    If you think Pardew has no involvement with set pieces you are in denial. It doesn’t take a genious to work out that after 400 plus corners without a goal something needs to be changed. Knocking it long to the big man at the backstick seems to be the height of Pardew’s set play knowledge. Worrying indeed

  • 126 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Head down to the training ground when your next opportunity arises and then tell me Pardew has an involvement in set pieces…

  • 127 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Okay, maybe I don’t have to go after all. People changing their mind and making me look flaky :)

    Beattie….I’m ever so ‘umble sir.

    On to other things, don’t in an attempt of humour, decide to search online for bizarre dating profiles to post as on here as Beatties.

    Some really odd people out there…more odd than are on here already.

  • 128 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    For the sake of accuracy (not blog police tactics) Beattie was correct in his use of the apostrophe + an additional S.- when he was referring to Llambias. Whilst there are some exceptions to this rule in this context with the “s” of his name (personal name ending in s) actually being sounded as an “s” you have to use the apostrophe and the additional “s”. It would be different for example if the name was Bridges (last s sounded like a z) then it would be correct to use the construction Bridges’.
    Beattie 1 Shane 0

  • 129 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    I thought the training ground had 18ft walls around it?!

  • 130 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    @ Shane

    Well I could easily say the same thing to you. If you were the manager of a company and an area of said company was failing to produce (i.e corners) and is well documented (even bet on) , are you telling me you would not get involved. Cone on , think about it .

  • 131 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM


    Come on fella, I am trying to take a bit of heat of Pardew but if he hasn’t got any input into set pieces, then what is he doing?

  • 132 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Shane…That may well be true, but at some point you would expect the manager to say, “what the hell is going on, show me” and then watch the sessions.

    I would think that has happened, but nothing has changed really.

    It’s a really sad stat for us, which wouldn’t be the end of the world if all else was ticking along nicely.

    I’d imagine I’d celebrate us scoring from a corner as if we’d won the league…in theory, as I have no idea what that actually feels like :(

  • 133 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Mister Tuff

    I am ever indebted to you sir.

  • 134 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    @Pogwash Set pieces don’t win games look at swansea.

  • 135 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    If we score a corner I’m on the pitch!

  • 136 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    So morale of the story. Either Pardew is to clueless to get involved with our set pieces or he has and not done a damn thing about it. Either way I don’t see how anyone can defend him

  • 137 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    We seem to be getting too many against Shane on this one…off my fence I go.

    Hey guys, Pardew has nothing to do with set pieces – back I tell you, get back

    *whilst waving his arms in a frantic fashion*

    Shane…Hope I have helped.

  • 138 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Scoring from set pieces don’t win games but they can help win titles.

    Man U are buggers for it.

  • 139 G // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    I completely agree with Ed’s comments regarding Pardews position as manager, however, I certainly do not expect him to be in charge of our team next season. Sacking him now would be mindless, however, the rumours still persist about him stepping into a new role at the end of the season, and some new guy taking over (Loving the Raffa rumours btw!)

  • 140 DxK // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Cabaye is one of those players who sometimes looks magical and others just seems anonymous. I really rate him as key to our chances and could see him really flourishing with a player such as Remy nearby to take advantage of his clever through balls.

    If QPR go down we should try to acquire the struggling Hoillet and go back in for Remy.

    On a separate note guys, I’ve written an article on the PFA awards – it would mean a lot to me if you could read, like and comment on it! Cheers :) (Link below)

  • 141 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    My comment about Beattie looking for love was aimed at his self indulgence and clear need to be loved… This is getting awkward.


    I appreciate that. Many thanks’s’s. :) haha.

  • 142 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    It comes down to the corner takers aswell..Alot of corners this season haven’t cleared the first man.

  • 143 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM


    Cant agree that part of the criteria for appointing a manager needs to be someone who doesn t rock the boat.

    The disagreements and arguments on transfer policy have all been had and the new policy is working well.

    Now that the club is on a sound financial footing with the scouting system working well and the transfer budget becoming healthier each year, the lessons of a haphazard transfer system have been learnt the hard way.

    This should mean that anyone who accepts the job knows exactly where they stand with no need for anyone to move the goalposts.
    If everyone is pulling in the same direction which they all seem to be now there is no need for confrontation or accepting mediocrity.

  • 144 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Cabaye looks like a player who doesn`t want to be playing for the toon anymore

  • 145 Beattie25 // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM


    You have become the biggest hate figure. They’ll be chanting Shane oot at the match Saturday.

    Least you’ve taken eyes of Pardew for the moment.

  • 146 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM


    They might not win games but putting the ball in the general vicinity of a colleague might lead to a goal occasionally!

  • 147 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Betty…I think I’m missing the point then.

    Let’s take this season.

    By all accounts Ashley was investing in the summer…he didn’t.

    He did in January, but we are yet to see whether that was to protect PL status or to push on.

    We will only know more on that come this summer.

    Not saying it’s conclusive, as I actually do believe he is trying to grow the club and has learned, but we don’t know that yet.

    If and it is only an if, I can’t see many managers taking it.

    Once again though, if Ashleys ambitions are as we think, then he will be looking to upgrade Pardew, so no sweat.

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    I see the blog hasn’t lost its famous mob mentality 😀

    On the topic of set pieces, how anyone can say its not Pardew’s responsibility is beyond me.

    I suppose it’s not his responsibility that our defenders defend and our attackers attack either?

    Set pieces are a crucial part of the game and if he isn’t involved in setting them up then he should be, and if he is then he should be doing a better job at it!

    Either way he needs to ship up on this score.

  • 149 Shane // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM


    As long as i’m in the same boat as Pardew i’m happy.

    Although he will probably have me in the wrong position and i’ll be rowing backwards.

  • 150 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    We are laughable at corners in both defending and attacking em.Our whole set up has the look of amateurs not pro`s including fitness and the medical team

  • 151 Cisse's Big Toe- Not Quite As Anti Pardew As Beattie Crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    ive said this and been slated but i think cabayes had his head turned by a ‘bigger’ club

  • 152 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM


    I agree we are v. poor at attacking corners, the rest is a bit harsh

  • 153 OhSholaAmeobi // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Can’t understand why officials at other clubs are allowed to openly talk about transfer targets with no reprisal from FIFA. I can put up with Mr.Teflon Berlusconi doing it as he does it about everyone, but when managers like Ancelotti and Droopy do it it does your nut in. If anyone is going anywhere, it would be Santon to Milan, Cabaye to Arsenal or Man Utd and the more obvious Colo to San Lorenzo.

  • 154 Jail for Ashley // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    I started to think that Mike Ashley had ambition for the club I think I was wrong, it would bevfoolish to suggest that he doesnt want the club to be successful, of course he does he just doesn’t want it to cost him anything, people on here still defend him by saying how well run we are, if being well run means three relegation battles in six years, seeing the most goals conceded in a Premiership game our worst ever Premiership run and goal difference not to mention our worst Premiership humiliation from our lowly rivals not to mention the worst football at SJP since the eighties then give me chaos and a new manager every year.

  • 155 OhSholaAmeobi // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    On another note if there’s a possibility of getting a better manager in the summer i’d go for it. I thought Pardew should’ve been sacked after that awful run and set of performances (anyone else would have) but the mini-revival seemed to have saved him and made any Pardew-doubters outcasts. I’ll back him till the summer anyhow hoping he’ll keep us up (or Ben Arfa will rather).

  • 156 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    We rush player`s back from injury and put em back in the first team gone are the days it seems they play a few reserve games first.Must be a record for any club the groin and hamstring injuries we seem to have.Are we jinxed or just badly managed

  • 157 iain // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Its like saying we can’t win games without Cabaye on the pitch before we have even kicked a ball as if there is nothing else pardew can do if Cabaye doesn’t play or perform.

    And you wonder why hes mentally and physically shot with that pressure on his shoulders. Hes one player I genuinely believe has given his all for us and in return been flogged to death by a manager lacking ideas other than ” I need better players”.

    The second Marveaux took the first set piece against the mackems it was easy to tell we were carrying Cabaye and sent out the wrong message to them that he could be targeted, having Tiote almost tied to his ankle to do the donkey work and cover him didn’t do the team any favours either.

    We signed Anita to play the role Cabaye has ended up playing recently the deep lying playmaker role and he wont even play him to give Yohan a rest its a nonsense.

    Pardew’s comments about everything don’t halve remind me Souness at the moment, the team coming out half beaten with excuses before a ball has even been kicked.

    I like Pardew, he ain’t no messiah but recently the only person he has to blame is himself for mismanaging the team.

  • 158 Jail for Ashley // Apr 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Oh and our kindly benefactor freezing prices on tickets, do you honestly think that it is an act of human kindess or is it because at prices in line with other ‘big’ clubs that no many people would pay to see the tripe we’ve been served up these last few years.

  • 159 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Well put.
    Anita must be gutted even players returning from injury and jonas out of position start before him.

  • 160 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM


    I haven’t been on the blog for a while, but its like I have never been away. Blah Blah

  • 161 BandB // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM


    Why are you subjecting yourself to this?
    They aren’t bothered, man.
    It’s all about preening.

  • 162 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM


    We have actually accumulated a very impressive squad now whether it was sooner than expected or not.

    Ashley has Always maintained that he will continue to put profits back into the club so we should be able to speand more on players every year.

    I m not saying Ashley is a saint and it was obvious he was ducking and diving in the early days after messing up on the due dilligence which our Kev unfortunately got caught up in.

    However I think there is a lot more transparancy now with how things are being done so any would be manager that didn t like the transfer budget etc. would make his choice knowing how things are.

    I think though that are current squad with a bit of tinkering would be an exciting prospect for
    lots of managers to work with.

    Not forgetting that if the financial fair play does ever kick in we will be in a good stong position.

    We have a lot to offer now so lets not under sell the position.

  • 163 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:02 PM


    Seriously struggling to figure out what exactly your angle is. If you don’t like the content of what is being discussed then do something about it, like Jail has done, better still, comment on what Jail has written and get the ball rolling on discussion.

    Seems easier for you to sit back and criticise and that’s not the first time you’ve done it. Nit picking on what others have to say seems like an easier choice than saying anything of note.

  • 164 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    We are like an F1 Car driven by a farmer

  • 165 Jail for Ashley // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Feel free to freshen up the blog with one of your literary masterpieces.

  • 166 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    JFA…MA might own the club and he might be cheap in your eyes (maybe you just want a billionair with a lor of money to spend?)

    That is all fine and well, but the any owner doesn’t pick the team, design the training, choose formation or decide on a football philosophy.

    That is usually why they employ a manager? If you are unhappy about our performance then look no further than does who perform and the person who makes the dicissions!i

  • 167 BandB // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM


    Go figure, you toadying little gobshite.
    I swore.

  • 168 stuart no9 // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    everyone saying cabaye is looking to be off , i have to say – i think so too
    I think pards knows that and is starting to make excuses for his performences..
    I have always said when a decent player comes here, they use us as a stepping stone to a bigger club, that is OMO, or if they are really interested in staying here, after a year or 2 they realise they have made a mistake- or it is not like what it says in the brochure. why would our top players want another season like this, coz lets be realistic , why is it going to get better? so cabaye , benny to name 2 may well be off in summer

  • 169 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Ruddy…I seem to have the same problem as you my friend!

    …I just don’t bother anymore.

  • 170 iain // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    “Well put.
    Anita must be gutted even players returning from injury and jonas out of position start before him.”

    I just checked and after scoring against Brugge, Anita was benched for the the next away game against the hammers were Gutierez lasted 23 mins in cm before he came on and Ferguson got a start too and simpson at rb.

    Im sure he would of been used to playing two games in a week seeing how he did fine for ajaz last season.

  • 171 Jail for Ashley // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Band B,
    Just sick of the whole Pardew out discussion, I’d love to see a better manager brought in but I honestly dont see it happening.

  • 172 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Betty…I think we’re more or less on the same page on this, except i am throwing more doubt on whether Ashley will follow through with regards to what he says to a manager he intends to do and then what he actually does do.

    We are / should be in a great position to push on and I can see a lot of managers wanting a go at it, but will they be sold a false dream and how would they react to that?

    All comes down to Ashleys intentions, if they are good then no problem, if not then there likely will be.

    I think Jail could probably shine some more light on this one than me.

  • 173 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM


    Be that as it may, you may think of me as insignificant, or repugnant, or not worth bothering about on the basis that I am not a thoroughbred like your fine self, but at least I, and many others like me discuss both football and have a bit of craic in the mean time.

    If you have such righteous indignation for what is being discussed then do something about it.

    Then again that would require positive affirmative action, not really up your street is it?


    I would be inclined to agree that we may not be as well run as the stats would sometimes have you believe, our on field struggles surely should be the first port of call when determining how “successfully run” we are as a club.

    But debts are falling, revenue streams are opening, we seem to be stabilising. It remains to be seen whether MA has any more ambition than just having a “stable” club, but I reserve the right to wait and see. A boring stance perhaps.

  • 174 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    What are Ashley’s intentions.
    Originally we were told of the five year plan and self sufficiency. This suggests a slow build up by buying “lesser players” (in respect of value/fame) and then developing said players. Clearly they got this wrong in the summer as what we had at the club were not good enough. Hence the additional players in January to bolster the squad and to hopefully keep our PL status (and millions of TV money).
    Clearly the plan did not work -are we now having to start the plan again ie in the summer a new period of 5 years begins or will Ashley try to stick to the plans time frame and dispense with buying in “lesser players” and fork out more to get more established players to get the 5 year plan back on track.
    What really are his intentions -to win a trophy, or just to get the club running well financially so it becomes a saleable club and he can get his money back. Or, is it a good vehicle to promote Sports Direct and a mid table/average team would be suitable for that purpose. Does he love the Toon -probably not as he also invests in Rangers.
    So I think what he does in the summer in going to give us some clues – perhaps not all the answers. I anticipate half a team being bought -minimum of 5 players – the standard of these players may answer some of the questions.
    If he was to sack Percy and hire Mourinho I would truly know what his plans were.

  • 175 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Jesper…Whilst true to an extent, surely we must then again look back up the ladder?

    If Ashley isn’t happy with performances he will look to Pardew. If he doesn’t think he is fulfilling his role properly then he will replace him…maybe with some chances first, which is maybe what we’re currently seeing.

    It’s just guesswork on our part.

    Swansea are a good example of an owner who is straightforward with what they’re trying to do, the same cannot be said for us – hence all the uncertainty and second guessing.

    If Ashley does replace Pardew, even by putting him in to a different position it would signal that he wants the style etc to change, if not, then surely he’s doing as instructed (within reason).

  • 176 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    To right he`s a player who passes and moves links up play keeps us moving forward.Yet even Guti gets a place in front of him.

  • 177 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Does anybody think if colo is away this summer jonas will want out to? them 2 have been really close. I think it’s time for a new LW anyway left footed would be nice. Can’t really rely on marveaux who has his injury problems.

  • 178 BandB // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM


    I intended to come on and ask how people thought we’d set up for the crucial game against WBA. You have to scroll through acres of hand-bagging to get to anyone who’s not just filling their day in polishing their persona. One day this blog will boil down to Beattie and Ibiza in a death struggle to establish who’s got the biggest ……I forget your favourite word, Beattie.
    Well it’s not me!

  • 179 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Tuff…Never have we been so more in tune. This summer may not be decisive, but a great indication of things to come and what the man upstairs is plotting.

  • 180 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    If we could snatch up Matt Jarvis that would put a smile on my face.

  • 181 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM


    Seems to suit you to believe that erroneous assumption. Beattie has given his views on this season extensively, Ibiza and I have discussed our thoughts of the crucial game this weekend and how the next 5 games will go and many have proffered their opinion on Pardew’s future.

    So do you want help off that high horse or can you manage that yourself?

  • 182 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Unless Jarvis can defend he aint gonna be any use

  • 183 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    BandB…Really? I am sorry if you think that’s what my contribution boils down to. Always up for discussing football matters, as I believe I have shown, but yes, it does at time meander off course.

    Not sure what else to say.

  • 184 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Ibiza in your earlier post the phrase about “guesswork” perhaps sums it up – we just do not know the ins and outs of the master plan. Whilst we should not know minute details the broad aims would be nice to know.

  • 185 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM


    I know you prefer to be diplomatic but you’ve just been insulted, I’m amazed at how gracious you can be to the undeserving.

  • 186 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Ibiza…hmm 😉 not sure I agree there, but I get your point though.

    …it is difficult to know what MA has told Pardew or what he really expect. He seems to give Pardew alot of breathing room to do his job. Pardew has praised him for that before.

    Personally I never likes MA and I probably never will – Pardew on the other hand I like alot. But truth to be told I cannot really point a finger at what MA is doing these days – I am on board, but Pardew has disappointed me alot this season.

    I don’t think he has done well with what he had and what he has got now. He hasn’t got the best out of the players and the players has been a huge let down to me :-(

    At the end of the day I am not so fussed about who owns the club. I watch the football and relate to the players and the philosophy the manager chooses.

    I except that might not be the same for everyone else :-)

  • 187 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    @Daztoon wingers aren’t suppost to defend. We mids well buy a LB and play him in LW if that was the case.

    Look at the top teams

    Man utd-nani young

    Can they defend any better than jarvis?

  • 188 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM


    Think he’s got a sweet left foot, but is he quick enough to be an out and out left winger, from what little I’ve seen of him I doubt his ability to skin his man and whip it in, he seems to need a big target man to aim for too i.e Fletcher last year at Wolves and AC at West Ham.

    He’d likely be an expensive option.

  • 189 OhSholaAmeobi // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    This upcoming match against West Brom’s gonna be tough but we destroyed them on the counter last time at their place. This team?
    Debuchy S.Taylor Mbiwa Haidara
    Sissoko Anita
    Marveaux Ben Arfa Gouffran

    Bench: Harper/Alnwick, Colo, Perch, Tiote, Cabaye, Jonas, Shola.

  • 190 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    You missed my point our winger`s defend more than our full backs who put in more crosses than our wingers

  • 191 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Ruddy….I don’t see the point in getting wound up over it. I think BandB was extremely rude there, but we’ve been here before and it got no one nowhere. Thought we’d moved on, apparently not and it’s not worth the time or angst sadly.

    My life will go on, as I’m sure BandB’s will too.

    Tuff…Pretty sure Derek has told us before – cor our memories must be getting bad, as it’s certainly not down to a lack of trust :)

  • 192 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM


    I think we’ll more than likely see Perch line up in midfield if Cabaye is left out this weekend. I know it’s not what we all would like to see but WBA have a very physical midfield, Mulumbu would eat Anita up in a straight battle, Perch might be a better shout although Anita is the more technical obviously.

  • 193 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM


    Well at the risk of preening your persona (bite me BandB) you’ve once more lofted above the pointless antics of keyboard warriors.

    Always got your back though 😉

  • 194 bettyswallocks // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM


    Whatever anyone thinks of Ashley its in his interests for the team to play well and win. I think he is personally a winner and a proud man so why would he not want the team to perform well.

    I don t see why he would need to sell anyone a dream .

    He has a solid, slightly flexible business model to take the club forward which is to scout players that provide good value and to improve the team and its results within the financial constraints as they are at any given time.

    Anyone who wants the job is buying into this plan not a dream.

  • 195 OhSholaAmeobi // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM


    I was gonna stick Tiote in that team for some physicality and give Sissoko a rest but he’s like a headless chicken atm. Perch might be the better option, what’s clear is Cabs, Sissoko and Jonas need a rest.

  • 196 stuart no9 // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    tuff @ 174 – i believe like many others that there was no 5 year plan, however , if there was it would be to favour him and not the club.
    We are no further forward now than we were in 2009.
    We have a team that, to be honest look like they have just met up in the local park and put together by a manager who really dosnt know quite what to do with them.
    After 5 years you would think that at least we would have some kind of organisation in the team, and look capable of of finishing in at least the top 6 EVERY season.
    instead what have we got? a team that is worse now than we had before pardew took over .
    I still dont think ash has a clue how to run a football clubto win trophies , or is he running it just to get his money back? from what i can see, if a decent offer comes in – hes gone.

  • 197 BandB // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM


    Don’t patronize me to your chums.
    Do you want a war of words?

    I demur.

  • 198 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    What’s all this talk of hand bagging, death struggles and whose got the biggest “Percy”.
    Whilst any sort of violence is not acceptable at all there may be some latitude in resolving the “whose got the biggest”question. I therefore suggest that all the blokes have to specify their “measurements behind their user names, using the Imperial measurement system ie in inches.I will volunteer to start the process off, as below
    Mister Tuff 13.

  • 199 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    Although i’m just saying I would be happy with jarvis but it could be anyone. I just feel that jonas is done and with his best bud colo moving away his performances will be even poorer.

    Also on Strikers since we only have 1 proper striker at the club I think moussa sow or Ndoye would be worth a good look at if PEA is out of the picture.

  • 200 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Jesper…From a fans initial perspective, yes, we look to the manager. At some point though, if a manager isn’t doing as asked, or hitting targets, then his manager would surely step in.

    Obviously Pardew is responsible for the day to day, but it has to go up the ladder to demand more when needed. You have said in the past (not an exact quote, so forgive me) that we need to look to Pardew as he is the main man – true to some extent, but he isn’t the end of the line.

    All I’m trying to say to people, is that if this isn’t part of the plan then surely Ashley will indeed be looking to change things up one way or another this summer. That’s not to say he wont be addressing certain issues with Pardew, but if he doesn’t change the manager it would indicate he himself shoulders part of the blame for this season in that he knows he was asked for more back-up in whatever shape or form.

    I’m dizzy.

  • 201 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM


    Cabaye and Jonas definitely, and maybe Sissoko has struggled with the quicker pace of the league but I think he seems to be coping well, just needs to get his head up when he has got past the defender.

    I’d have Perch over Tiote every day of the week and twice on Sundays…never thought I’d ever see myself writing that…

  • 202 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Why not start Anita and let the opposition worry about his strengths than start Perch who treats the ball like a hot potato

  • 203 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    @Daztoon maby that’s because are wingers are afraid to go forward so perhaps it’s about time we signed a decent attacking winger.

  • 204 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    lets have a sing off 😀

  • 205 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    I think its more we allow ourselves to be pushed back to often and don`t play a high enough line

  • 206 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    I just want to see us attack In numbers for a change. I believe this is why we score so few goals.

  • 207 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Footy songs of course gotta stay related n all

  • 208 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM


    War of words? Well for someone who has criticised the “preening” on the blog, for someone who criticises the lack of substantive discussion on the blog, for someone who poses herself as the true-blooded pure Geordie who’s passion runs deeper than the rest of us mere Gentiles I am surprised I have rattled your cage so.

    I’d oblige you but I really don’t care about your opinion, well that’s not true, as you fail to offer any opinions. Let me rephrase this, I don’t care about your pathetic whining.

  • 209 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Is Mulumbu not suspended??He kicked the ball off a player and got a 4 game ban?

    I think playing Cabaye against West Brom could be a bad idea we should keep him on the bench

    Would go for this team :

    4 – 1 – 3 – 2

    Elliot gk
    Debuchy Rb
    Taylor CB
    Mbiwa CB
    Haidara LB
    Perch DM
    Anita CM
    Marveux No 10
    Sissoko DM
    Cisse CF
    Gouffran CF

    Haidara and Debuchy can provide the width and Sissoko and Perch can provide the defensive cover with Marveux of a sort of free role Cisse and Gouffran have to play up front its waste having Gouffy out wide West Brom will not like the front 2’s movement

    This team would get the result we need but we will probably play almost the same team as against the Mackems with Jonas , Tiote and a clearly unfit Cabaye in the midfield

  • 210 BandB // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM


    You did get my back. I must seem ungrateful, though I’m not.
    The blog is a boy thing.
    I finally understand.

  • 211 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    And gouffran is a striker not a left winger so since we need like 2 strikers we could just sign a lw and 1 striker.

  • 212 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM


    You’re right to point out that it’s both wingers and Strikers that we’re in bad need of in the summer, I can honestly see Jonas moving in the summer given that Colo is away (presumably).

    I can see PEA beginning a bidding war over the summer and that is one thing that we will not allow ourselves to be dragged into that so other options may need to be explored.

    I’ve heard Wilfred Bony from Vittesse has been immense and could be worth a look. Did Moussa Sow not move to Turkey over the summer?

  • 213 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    @Sean i’ll start us off

    We are the Geordies
    The Geordie Boot Boys
    And we are mental and we are mad
    We are the loyalest
    football supporters
    The world has ever had…

  • 214 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    stuart @196 – I cannot disagree at all with any of your observations.
    We are not a team but a group of individual players -clearly the issues here are not the players but coaching.

  • 215 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Tuff…If I withdraw my name from the competition, do you think people will think “little” of me?

    Ruddy…Thank you, as I do yours…or is it your backside again?

    BandB…A bit like putting down Beattie and I when talking to Jail? I really don’t want to get in to this (talk about handbags), but do you not expect that if you put people down on a public forum that people wont react? What do you actually expect? I ask this as respectfully as possible.

    Betty…Then we shouldn’t have any problems. I feel like I’ve turned anti Ashley throughout our discussion, when really I’m not. I lean more towards believing, but I do still need to see the next step. As Stuart has raised, another scenario could be to by cheap quality (why not, it’s worked out at a similar cost to buying general rubbish – just look around the PL), get the club “stable” and generating money. It could easily just be an exit strategy for a man that couldn’t get his money back out of his business. That still wouldn’t be the end of the world, we may get in a great owner, with a well set up club, but it wouldn’t have meant Ashley was ambitious for NUFC.

    Once again, I lean more to believing and that it will come good eventually. Just hoping now that nothing disastrous happens in the meantime with any risks that may or may not have been made.

  • 216 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM


    “I got your back” refers to someone defending a friend, I see Ibiza as a friend, not just a persona, we’ve actually discussed things away from the blog because we are people not just personas.

    Bring sexism into the equation, seems to be a pathetic “go to” card given how you’ve nothing of substance to bring to this argument as you know you were totally out of order in what you said.

  • 217 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    kevymartins i likes it 😀

  • 218 BandB // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    Knock yourself out.

  • 219 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    @Ruddy that’s right I forgot moussa sow went to fenerbahce.

    When I try go on a search for a good striker my mind goes blank but in carr I trust.

  • 220 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM


    Is that it? No witty riposte? Needless to say that if a war of words ensued it’d be a swift one.

  • 221 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM


    It’s tough trying to look for strikers who could suit our game, it’s only if you stumble upon someone when watching a Europa League or Champions League game (or on football manager 😛 haha)

    But like you said, I’m putting my trust in Carr, that man knows how to find gems so let’s sit back and let him do the legwork haha

  • 222 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    not too worried about his fitness to be honest.

    Cabaye clearly isn’t fit, hasn’t been for a long time. He has struggled to make it past the 60 minute mark since his return at norwich,

    Very good player but I will tell you now he will be gone in the summer. PSG say they want him, not just leonardo but ancellotti has now as well….he will be gone. Shame as he is top class, but top class players want top class clubs.

  • 223 Jail for Ashley // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Stuart 9,
    I don’t think Ashley will be off at all, unless the type of money that could buy Real or Man U is offered he’s here to stay he’s got the club in a position where it’s not costing him anything and the advertising he gets for his sports shop would cost him an absolute fottune elsewhere, unfortunately it looks like we’re in for years of mediocrity as pushing on to the next level would cost money.

  • 224 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Some of you guys/girls make me laugh 😀

  • 225 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM


    If Cabs is allowed to leave I will be absolutely devastated, seriously. No amount of money will soften the blow of losing the classiest midfielder we have had since Rob Lee.

    Some might think I am exaggerating here but he’s been off form due to his fitness, last season he was so slick, so intelligent, and given a proper break and pre season will be raring to go next season. I pray this isn’t true.

  • 226 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    BandB – just jump in with your football input – the themes sometimes stray away from football but eventually return. There have been some truly good laughs on here – but you have to learn who the “exotic” posters are.

  • 227 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    sean…..Was it my knock knock joke? Did I tell a knock knock joke?

    Don’t ask me to, I don’t know any :)

  • 228 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Pardew needs to find a System other than defensive before we start looking for winger`s and forwards.We have all the attacking options right now but he aint got a clue how to use em

  • 229 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:57 PM


    Knock Knock….

    Who’s there?

    Interrupting cow

    Interrupting cow w…


  • 230 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Ruddy…Really? The same one? Okay, I guess I am smiling, but still, that joke can only get me so many times.

  • 231 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM


    Not inside knowledge or anything like that, just my opinion from what i see and hear in the media.

    He looks unfit and also looks a bit unhappy too. I think a few of our boys we happy to scrap last year but this year they have been let down first by ashley then secondly by pardew, then they let themselves down as well. Think the flair players don’t like the amount of defensive work they have to do, it will only make it harder for them to stay in their national teams (if cabaye loses his place dur to poor international form he’ll struggle to get it back playing DM for us).

    I love cabaye and to me money doesn’t matter, i like players not a club balance sheet. Understand the club needs to spend wisely but to me as a fan i get no enjoyment from us having the biggest profits or us having the least debt or whatever.

  • 232 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM


    It’s the only knock knock joke I know.

    I could tell a Paddy Irishman, Englishman and Scotsman joke but it’s a bit long….oh wait I’ve another one.

    Alright 2 blondes walk into a bar….

    You think one of them would have seen it! HAAAAAAA!


  • 233 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Knock knock.

    Who’s there?


    Oh, I get it, Doctor Who?

    No, it’s the doctor, you’ve got AIDS and I suggest you let me in, it’s not a laughing matter.

  • 234 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Ruddy… :)

    TS…Don’t lie, you love a balanced account as much as the rest of us. Getting a little weak at the knees just typing about it.

    Just off to the archive files, back soon.

  • 235 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM


    I am with you on the players over balance sheets. I think we need a shake up of playing staff, rid ourselves of the ineffective DMs we have at the club and bring in quality in that position so we can play Cabs higher up the pitch where he should be played.

    As it stands I think Sissoko should be deeper with Cabs further up the field. If we played 4-5-1 with an effective CDM holding the middle and allowing Sissoko and Cabs to sit in front of him pulling the strings and running at the opposition then we could see much more out of him, but as it stands we don’t have a quality stand along CDM.

    (We do but he’s not performing)

  • 236 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM


    Ha! Hilarious!

  • 237 clinath@ed // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Bloody ell Ibiza….I’ve only been gone a few hours, and you’ve got yerself into another scrap. Where exactly is this fence you sit on..Korea? Lol!

  • 238 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Ibiza…I didn’t think we wanted Pardew shiped out? 😉 lol

    …I get what you mean and I do think MA takes some of the responsibility for this season – I don’t know what happened in the summer and what was agreed upon, but he did back Pardew in January and to me that shows intent!

    But anything could happen before this season is over or in the summer for that matter.

    For me it seems the most important thing for MA is stability as long as we don’t underachieve. So if we are still as bad next season I would expect MA to sack Pardew (if not then I am turning to the darkside (JFA’s side ;))

  • 239 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM


    i want to see this team at west brom, doubt it will happen


    if hba not fit, try gouffran….let the front 3 roam around as well

    And balance sheets mean nothing, never hear a man city or chelsea fan say, “its great we won the league and play champs league, but i’m gutted the daft billionaire has lost some pocket change”

  • 240 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Kevy…Good effort. Got an actual lol there :)

    Clinath…And another actual lol. Can you tell me what it is I’m doing wrong? :)

  • 241 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM


    and it cabaye isn’t fit…tell him to go out there and give 45 mins of his best stuff, then bring him off

  • 242 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Jesper…I don’t want him out, but I wouldn’t be upset if he was upgraded. Seem to say this every season, but this next year is really huge. We seem to be getting the final pieces of the jigsaw together.

    Whilst you may not agree with something, I don’t see you as a darkside person :)

  • 243 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM


    I’d agree with you if Tiote was resembling anything like a professional footballer, but letting him hold the CDM role with any sense of accomplishment seems like suicide at the minute, the second he dawdles on the ball in that position we’re shafted as the opposition is straight at the back 4.

    Whilst in premise I agree to a man about your selection I think Pards will plump for this:

    ———————Tiote—-Cabs(Perch if unfit)——

  • 244 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    @Transfer That’s a nice line up. I would go with that or we could also go with a 4-1-2-1-2



  • 245 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Ffs this is Pardew shit talking as usual incase we get beat he can say that our best player wasn’t ther or wasnt fully fit, we shouldn’t hav sold Danny Guthrie, he was sound when asked 2 fill in 4 Cabs or Tiote, we havnt got another creative midfielder 2 replace him, i suppose he’s a creative midfielder playin defensive midfield so we should b able 2 replace him with Anita

  • 246 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM


    purely from a financial side Ashley must think, i spent 18mi (minus whatever we eventually got for ba) and i havent seen a vast improvement….how much more do i spend to see a consistent challenge for top 6.

    he might think it would be cheaper to hire a new manager. the man is ruthless in business so can imagine pardew going if he thinks it benefits him and his bank balance

  • 247 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    you all forgot Jonas he will be in the side if fit

  • 248 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM


    We didn’t sell Guthrie, he refused to sign a new contract as he wasn’t going to get a starting spot and he left when his contract expired. It’s the same situation with Simmo so that’s not the club’s fault.

  • 249 clinath@ed // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Ibiza…..your asking the wrong one here mate, i could start a fight in a convent! The problem is some people see pleasantness and good humour as a weekness and try to exploit it. Never apologise for being a good bloke ( or lass)… There’s not many of us left!

  • 250 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM


    Pards values his contribution and against Fulham and Benfica the guy was immense at LB. I personally think he’s knackered so will more than likely be left out this weekend along with Cabs.

    I’d like to see a more accomplished player in his place though.

  • 251 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    ruddy and kevy

    Both good idea.

    I’m not overly fussed on formation, I think it matters little. The main thing is intent. You can have 433 and attack well or defend easily turning it to 451, same positions just higher or lower up field.

    I tihnk it’s more about getting high up, pressing to make mistakes and winning the ball back as near their goal as possible meaning you have less to do to get into a goal scoring area.

    442, 4321, 4231, 433…all the same if you keep 10 in your own half.

  • 252 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Ibiza…nah! who am I kidding – I’ll never turn to the dark side 😉 lol

  • 253 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    sorry my mistake, we should hav offered him more playing time then, he was a very useful passer as wel as decent at delivering set pieces

  • 254 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Ian Toon
    May issue out. Went with. ” Crisis at Sunderland” ” We don’t like the new right winger” Just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us- LOL.

  • 255 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Ibiza…lets just get though this season and make sure we stay up!

    …then we will see what MA’s intention are :)

  • 256 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Guthrie left because he saw what we all have seen doesn`t matter if your playing well you don`t keep the shirt over Pardew`s favorites so didn`t sign a new contract

  • 257 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Anita is a strange one. I get he’s a really good player and has put in some good shifts, but he’s a bit like Marv for me, or at least Marv up until recent times. Goes missing a bit too much and not quite up to speed with the league.

    I suppose he needs the time to adapt, but I do think people are all too quick to say Anita should have played etc etc. I don’t doubt he will get there, but he isn’t yet imo, just like Marv wasn’t “yet”, but imo is now.

  • 258 kevymartins // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    @Transfer but if you keep 10 men in your own half your inviting pressure on. My manager always told me the best form off defense is attack.

  • 259 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:22 PM


    how was jonas immense at LB in those games? genuine question, i really couldn’t see what he did.

    He was his usual self for me, sloppy on the ball, runs into trouble, and points at people instead of closing them down.

    Against fulham especially he had nothing to do so never stood out for me.

  • 260 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM


    Intent is the key, I was banging my head against the wall in the Fulham game, for 70mins of the Benfica game and the entire Sunderland game because we showed no intention of pressing the ball, no intention to get it back, and no intention of showing guile in trying to keep the ball when we did get it.

    I’ve under no impression that we’re going to be Barcelona but I’d like us to show the same ruthless ambition in pressing it high in the opposition’s half.

    As it stands we sit back and let them cross into our half, and when we get the ball back we’re so disjointed and knackered from chasing the ball that we can’t put forward any coherent threat.

  • 261 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM


    100% agree…and with pardew no matter who starts 10 of them will be in our half with either cisse or shola 50 yards from the nearest player in the opposition half.

    I think there is a balance to be had and by sitting back we invite pressure as you say, makes not only attacking much harder as a lot further to go when you have the ball but defending is harder as they can commit a few extra men forward.

  • 262 p // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    I honestly don’t Cabaye is going anywhere. He will be captain next season (assuming we stay up, then he will be gone like s$%& through a goose).

    I think Pardew is the most likely to leave outside of the obvious likely ones like Simmo and big Mike.

  • 263 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM


    I saw a different Jonas, carrying the ball forward, tracking back, holding position, offering himself as an outlet. Perhaps I’ve been so disappointed from what Santon offers there that when I saw him doing well at LB I was more relieved than impressed haha

  • 264 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Apostrophe Police – Its A Matter of Principle
    Theres’ always one is’nt there?
    Picking through the post’s on an Internet forum with a fine- tooth comb
    looking for grammatical error’s and mistakes. Where would we be without them?

  • 265 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    clinath…How do you feel about sticking around then and I’ll just point people in your direction? :)

    Jesper…Indeed. First things first. Then we (or more importantly the club) can take a look at where we are and where it is exactly we’re supposed to be going. Still some twists and turns to come no doubt.

  • 266 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM


    there is a time and place to sit back, chelsea did it well against barca…helped nulify there pace and and through balls and without a target man they could use the cross as chelsea won all of them.

    but against teams like fulham, reading, etc you need to be brave, if you cant be brave against those you deserve to lose.

  • 267 clinath@ed // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    I find it difficult a team at this stage of the season, especially the way it has panned out. I’ve seen the best 11 chosen, the most popular formations displayed but still the results aoid us. It dumfounds me that last season we played with poorer players but somehow produced a better team!

  • 268 clinath@ed // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    To pick a team….dick!

  • 269 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM


    Fair enough, i just didn’t really see anything that made me think he did anything other than the very minimum expected but thats a million times better than what he normally serves up haha.

    I like jonas but the hard working thing is a myth…..maybe in a game but what does he train like? he’s a 29 year old winger who can’t cross a ball higher than 2 feet off the ground, utter shambles.

  • 270 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    U’d think Pardew would c that his defensive strategy doesn’t work when we concesde so many goals, i agree with the attack being the best form of defence but wot we really need 2 do is wot di canio told the sunderland players 2 do when he arrived ther, when in posession in the oppositions half get bodies in the box and get the f’n ball in ther 2, no good putting it in2 Cisse on his own

  • 271 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM


    The first game I genuinely started to question Pardew’s ability and intent was the home game against a gutless Stoke. We afforded a team lagging in confidence so much room, so much time and way too much respect. At home!

    We have the players and the quality to destroy all of the teams you’ve mentioned. It just comes down to how you set your stall. Sit back and try and nick one, or take the game by the scruff of the neck and own it?

    We just haven’t been brave enough this season and that starts and ends with Pardew.

  • 272 p // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Jonas is not bad. He’s still good enough for this league, he’s just a bit of a journeyman.

    I do think Williamson was a genuine weak link along with Simpson (though he had a couple of goods games whilst Debuchy was unavailable).

    Now they addressed those weaknesses with 2 French internationals and bolstered the first team with another in Sissoko + bolstered the squad with decent players in Haidaro and Gouffran, there is not too much of an excuse.

    It’s the team that is shit, not the individual parts. That’s down to factors other than individual ability.

  • 273 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM


    malumba is out until 27th april – so misses the toon game – it was a three match ban but WBA did not play weekend gone

  • 274 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    heard a brilliant point on the radio last night

    name a team thats around the top 4 of their domestic league who play defensive football (in the league, not when in champs league etc)

  • 275 Jail for Ashley // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Having a net spend of 11M in January was definitely showing intent no doubt about that but as to what kind of intent is open to interpretation.

  • 276 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    TS…just saw your post. I am a bit slow sorry :)

    …but I totally agree with you there mate!

  • 277 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:35 PM


    i started to have my doubt after the west hame home game…looked horrible and we basically let them win.

  • 278 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Wonder does Pardew kno that West Brom didn’t play at the weekend, he mustn’t or he’d hav mentioned that they hav an advantage with being wel rested

  • 279 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    JFA…well that is why we are here 😉

    …and it is always good to get a different perspective on the matter.

  • 280 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM


    I never voiced discontent at his management, just wanted to see more expressive, or even confident football but that’s been lacking.

    But the 3-0 drubbing by Sunderland was the final straw, and while I think it was more the player’s responsible for that defeat Pardew may not be the man to take this club forward. He has stabilised us, or at least kept us at a fairly even keel, but standing still takes you backward and I think keeping Pardew in charge long term unless he changes his ethos is akin to standing still.

  • 281 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM


    yeh. he has lost my confidence in him, support him and the lads during the 90 mins but its dire stuff to watch, if you play ugly and win it’s ok, can be forgiven during a transition period, not a full season though, especially when it sees you near the bottom.

  • 282 ErnestHemingway // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM


    But it was the clubs fault that we didn’t purchase suitable reinforcements.

  • 283 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM


    I think he’s lost my long term confidence in him too, unless we see a consistent resurgence in terms of playing style.

    I’ll take ugly football and wins between now and the end of the season but I think we’ll find few fans who are content with the performances this season, even in the EL where we’ve done ok the performances haven’t been great.

  • 284 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:52 PM


    the club didnt give pardew a chance for top 6 again…but he never gave us a chance of top ten, which is where we should be….3 more wins say, reading, west ham and sunderland at home…..thats all it would have taken to have us 8/9th

    he bottled everyone of those games with defensive football, plus countless others

    if we played as well from the start as we do when we go behind we’d be top 8 and that where he shoulders the blame for me

    even our weak team looks good when allowed to attack

  • 285 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 7:53 PM


    While that is true, it is only true to a point. There have been numerous games where we’ve fielded an XI that was vastly superior than the opposition and yet we’ve still been out played, or we still give too much space.

    At home to Stoke we fielded:


    And yet that Stoke team passed around us, they were afforded time and space and if they had any nous whatsoever they would have beat us. They nearly left with a point, we needed a last minute winner to poach it.

    That game, and many others like it, had nothing to do with injuries, or lack of summer recruits. We just lacked intent.

  • 286 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    He’ll have his excuse then if we get beat they ‘were well rested having two weeks off’

  • 287 Conaldo (The Wizard - Member of the Triangle of Intelligence) // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    If we were to go balls out attack against West Brom, how does this look:

    Dreamboat deux Mapou Saylor Hairdryer
    Moose Cabtain
    Marvoo Ben10 Goofy
    Ciiisseee!-wait-no-flags up-

    There are certainly goals in that team, problem is there is not a lot of defence there.

  • 288 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    My team 2 start v West Brom if Cabaye is injured and Elliot is our

    Debuchy—-Yanga Mbiwa—–Taylor——-Haidara
    Ben Arfa—————–Cisse—————-Marveaux

  • 289 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    We all know Cabaye is Knackered,Tiote isn`t playing his natural game,Jonas is well Jonas 100% for effort,Sissoko is playing in the wrong position the list goes on,but this is Pardew picking the team so anything is possible.The end result is always the same poor negative football.
    Does anyone know what we are good at ?Is there on thing in our gameplay we are good at

  • 290 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    If things don’t work at this i’d take off Perch and bring on Campbell, give him his chance, drop Sissoko back to his real position alongside Anita and drop Ben Arfa and Marveaux further back and play Cisse and Campbell up front

  • 291 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    daztoon-anti christ is that the time

    Good at dropping points lol

  • 292 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Lol good one and true.

  • 293 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Wizard i like the looks of that team, rest cabs for anita maybe

  • 294 DokToon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    daz @ 164,

    now that is a brilliant comparision!!!!

  • 295 magpiemover // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    1 away game this season we played a high line and that was against man u away on boxing day look what happend we nearly beat them , at times we played them off the park , come on that prooves to me that this team is good enough , if pardew done this against the lower teams we would win more than we lose , but mr negative could not organise a piss up in a brewerry

  • 296 Marty-Toon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    I’d like to see him play for the west brom game
    Ben Arfa and Marveau on the wings with Cabaye and Sissoko in front of the back four interchanging who holds and who pushes forward and with Gouffran up front with Cisse

  • 297 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM


    The West Brom team that started their last game, if we can’t match this with our squad ther is def sumthing very badly wrong and i think Stevie Wonder would F’ing c this

  • 298 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    @Ruddy Marveaux-lous
    Its got to be bad if with that team we were out passed by Stoke

  • 299 Conaldo (The Wizard - Member of the Triangle of Intelligence) // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    I’d like to see anita get a run of games, but he is not a replacement for tiote, and Cabaye will always get in ahead of him.

    Would love to see Gouffran, Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Cisse as an attacking 4.

  • 300 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    fair point patoon haha

  • 301 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    carl @264 (aka Mr Multiple/Man of a Thousand Faces)
    I take it your post was a snipe at me rather than the other poster who first raised the grammatical issue – I merely commented on what had previously been raised and I believe qualified my post.
    Bit like a card game this -all we need now is for Funk to turn up and there’ll be a full house.
    Your cockiness, arrogance and perceived intellectual superiority above other people on the blog will again be your downfall.
    Give it a rest and stop your multiple posting -you are just making yourself look daft.

  • 302 sean667 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    would that be the diamond conaldo?

  • 303 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Glad you liked it thought it summed us up really

  • 304 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    8 home defeats( head bowed shake of the head) and 4 of our victories at home virtually with the last kick of the match, shows what a bloody desperate time of it we as supporters have had, will Pardew again keep faith with Jonas? we have showed when he has not played we score goals for fun, for me he slows everything down with his stop start fall over technique, it stops any fluidity, but he is Pardews darling so no doubt he will be in the starting 11 yet again.

    team v west brom if available.

    Anita or Perch

    If players are not doing it then they have to be subbed ie tiote and Jonas, Pardew loves them so they will play no doubt. that’s were he wont bite the bullet and drop them because it will show he has been wrong, I loved tiote but I really feel he is only luke warm and perch or anita deserve a run in the team.

  • 305 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    You starting with 10 mate

  • 306 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Oops missed sissoko playing in a more defensive role with cabaye pushing on, ben arfa if fully fit has to play as well.

  • 307 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    maybe have jonas in goal be very surprised if he isn`t in the starting 11

  • 308 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:27 PM


  • 309 Conaldo (The Wizard - Member of the Triangle of Intelligence) // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:28 PM


    Marveaux — Ben Arfa — Gouffran

    With Cabaye and Sissoko deeper.

  • 310 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Daz, Pardew will probably play Jonas in Goal if Harper is unavailable ha ha , I would not put it past him, young jack alnwick is going to have some pressure on his young shoulders if he plays for sure. how he feels Jonas is so important to the team I just don’t know, he did do well last year, but this year apart from a couple of decent halfs of football he has been awful.

  • 311 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    For sure mate that why i feel for Anita he played well when needed getting mom game after game but was then second choice to someone being played out of position.What message does that send out

  • 312 lesh // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Ruddy, Ibiza……

    Knock knock….
    ‘Who’s there?’
    “Maybe it’s a big horse”
    ‘Maybe it’s a big horse who?’
    “Maybe it’s a big horse I’m a Londoner”
    * (sung to the tune of Maybe it’s a-because I’m a Landaner)

    Knock knock…
    ‘Who’s there?’
    ‘Harry who?’
    “Who’s Harry Now?” (sung to the tune of Who’s Sorry Now)

    Sorry folks….

  • 313 bringbackemre // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    I dont know what the story with jonas is , last season he was a really skilled and useful player , my player for the first half of last season , and while he still can be useful it just looks so much harder for him now . Hes mobility and speed are gone and he’s not really able to beat players consitently anymore . Probably to do with age aswell as Pardews tactics

  • 314 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Daz, I still think Anita is going to be a very good player for us, his confidence has been knocked big style by the Manager in my opinion.

  • 315 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    He`s a modern player with loads of ability who was playing well then just dropped.Not even getting on as a sub in most games bound to knock anybody`s confidence

  • 316 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    As Cabaye clearly needs a rest I would play this team






    However we know Pardew will persist with his adopted son Gutierrez and the yellow card machine Tiote, but what can you do.

  • 317 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    No doubts, when a player get 10/20 mins here and there they cant get a rythym goin, I always maintained that marv should have had much more playing time as well as Anita for sure, im a massive fan of young Adam Campnell and he has had a very small bit of playing time, the lad has been told to go play wide on the left when he has came on, he needs the ball through the middle of the last defender, for me shola has had a million chances, 47 goals in 13 years, you could not write it down, will Pardew have the guts to put Campbell on before Shola, I very much doubt it, I don’t think our manager is strong enough to change things and have a go for it with fresher legs and a better player.

  • 318 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    I saw people looking for strikers names to be bandied around earlier. I like Jackson Martinez of Porto only we’d never get him. I’d like a similar player but younger

  • 319 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    Like the team lad, and like it even more when the yellow card machine isn’t in it lmao, really feel sorry 4 Tiote tho cos if he can rediscover his form he can b a great asset 2 us, wel until sumbody puts in a decent bid 4 him

  • 320 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Its all square pegs round holes.Marv goes missing out wide he needs to be in around the box opening up defences with his through balls and Cisse would have a hat full.Tempo needs to be higher for the players we have.Like i said were an F1 car driven by a farmer used to horse and cart

  • 321 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Anita is a very good player but has not had a decent run in the team in the same position and when he does play the rest of the team have been chopped and changed.
    Would be nice to see a settled starting eleven play for the rest of the season – I know it would be tough as we atre in a relegation battle.

  • 322 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Mr Tuff @ 301
    Thanks for contacting the Apostrophe Police. This is a n automated
    post confirming we have received your message. Please do not reply
    to this post since it is generated from an unmonitored address. If you believe you have received this in error your even more paranoid than you clearly are. Have a nice day.

  • 323 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    @Charlie in the Gallowgate
    Well no point sitting back now we have to take risks and go for it.Only thing is we have a manger who doesn`t believe in us as an attacking side

  • 324 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    I’d also like 2 c Anita get a run of games, at least he does wot he’s supposed 2 do, break up play and giv the ball, Tiote can’t pass the ball 2 save himself, sumtimes u’d actually think he’s having a shot he kicks the ball that hard 2 his own player and by the time the other player has controlled it they’ve been closed down and disposessed

  • 325 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Yes, on paper we have very skilful players who re getting their assets frozen by our managers static formations, I will maintain pardew goes out not to loose rather than go for the win.

    Marv, ben afa, gouffy, cisse, and cabaye pushed further forward from the more defensive role he has been playing, all linking up together could be very special indeed, I mean if we have the ball the other team dosnt, the attacking is the best form of defence is very true, just get a few Prozac down cabaye half an hour before kick off he will be running around like he has a firework up hi jacksy ha ha .
    Its a trick Pardew has missed for so long that I don’t feel he will ever get it.

  • 326 check the toastie // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    I Have stopped posting as i have nothing more to add, posters can dress it up any way they want the crux of everything is PARDEW MUST GO, or the club standstill.

    We need a complete day of this message and hopefully it will bring about change. I have been fed up for a long whole, certain supporters are given a crumb of hpe now and then which puts them off the scent that the mna is totally out of his depth.

    Goodnight, will return when we have a manager that matches our squad. He’s a disgraceful excuse of a manager.

  • 327 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    If Cabaye is Knackered I would go with Big Papa’s butif Colo is fit I would put him in instead of Taylor.
    He’s a bloody liability at the minute. Gets to tight to players easily gets turned so using his hands to grap shirts and is going to get caught out lying on the deck heading the ball back to his keeper

  • 328 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Ian @322

    Give it a rest and talk about football. You know you gave yourself away even further with your discussion about solipsism yesterday. You posted as an expert on the issue, and your persona of Ian Toon is well versed in psychology, however you purport your persona of “carl” to not be academically minded.

    Yet it was carl who gave the lecture on solipsism, surely above his station?


  • 329 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Why is it just about everyone on here can see Cabaye and Sissoko are being used wrongly as well as others,yet our manager can`t

  • 330 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    @ Charlie

    Normally I would have Collo over Taylor most times however coming back from injury and having to man mark Lukaku might be to big of an ask. You’re right about Taylor getting to tight. That’s why I like Collo, his reading of the game is exceptional and knows when to tackle. Quick question, Has Collocini ever gave away a penalty ? . Off the top of my head I don’t think he has

  • 331 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM


    Well if Sissoko was solely a CDM type player you could make a stronger case, it’s purely because Sissoko can play in the advanced role that he is used there, I’d be interested to see them switch though.

  • 332 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    check the toastie

    Everybody should bring poster 2 our next home game, if Pardew wants my fone number i’d gladly pass it on 2 him, so he could fone my 3 year old 2 get a few tips about how football should b played

  • 333 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM


    its just sensible…where does cabaye have his best games? France….where does he play for them? behind the striker.

    where has he had his best games for us? behind the striker.

    where do we play him normally, deep midfielder…makes no sense.

    He can pass a ball long but 1000% more effective when used just behind as his 10/20 yard through ball are inch perfect.

  • 334 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Multiple -I know who is paranoid and it’s not me. Stop your shenanigans -you know it makes sense. You seem to be reading the posts rapidly -must be the Speed Reading Course you mentioned earlier.

  • 335 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    @Ruddy Marveaux-lous
    Oh i agree mate but he`s making his runs from deep 50 yards + and has only Cisse with him

  • 336 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    daz, sissoko himself has said he like the more defensive part of the game, I think he would be better there, plus he has that extra bit of pace were cover is needed, cabaye pushed further forward to link up with marv benny gouffy and feeding a grateful ciise is the way forward, sorry if the post sounded to similar to before, we just have to hope AP is listening ha ha, I don’t think he has the balls to drop Jonas or tiote, he could always prove me wrong on Saturday?!?!

  • 337 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Transfer Sage

    completely agreee

  • 338 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Your confused. I am in the same line of work as Ian. I am two years older than him but we did the same degree course at the same Uni. I have not met him for around two years although we correspond from time to time. I got a message just 20 minutes ago from his girlfriend to say he’s on Jury service but they both planned to go to the WBA game. I realise this is too much information but if you think back to our first contact you’ll see that it all fits. Ruddy please think for yourself and don’t go along with the paranoid nonsense. I would love to talk football but I am working. Take care.

  • 339 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM


    Also for a creative player cabaye can really tackle or at least likes to.

    So if played behind cisse he can pressure the opposition defensive midfielders and win the ball or pressure then to an error or bad pass making him doubly effective there.

    But for a manager who loves to defend he only seems to defend in our 3rd, we let teams play every where else.

  • 340 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Don’t kno if Pardew loves 2 defend, look how many goals we hav conceded

  • 341 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    Not only that for a defensive set up we don`t defend very well.The first rule is to close down the player with the ball but we don`t we just back off

  • 342 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Transfer that is true, all teams playing us jst know how we are going to set up. lambias , he best have a word with his manager then, because AP is ringing all the water out of the sponge.

  • 343 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Hope Alan Pardew’s next shite is a hedgehog

  • 344 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM


    He likes to try to defend then haha


    I don’t mind the sitting off and staying very narrow approach against genuine class like barca, it is a way to combat them, especially in a cup where you can go through with a draw.

    But league games you might as well have a go as sitting back like that usually gets you just 1 point at best anyway. We dn’t need to be all out attack but if you don’t offer anything teams can camp in your half and break through even the best defenses.

  • 345 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Big Pappa
    Agree – only if Colo is fit

  • 346 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Patoon, I would like to be there to see the hedgehog scenario, trouble is Jonas`s dick will be up there at the time ha ha

  • 347 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    On recent evidence I would prefer Marv in the hole over Cabaye. Yohan playing deeper doesn’t mean he cant get forward but we need to break in numbers more often IMO.

    Sissoko behind the striker is not working either. Pardew played him there against Chelsea and it worked well but he expects Moussa to do that every week which was never going to happen. Every game he just seems to run for the sake of running (clearly Pardew’s instruction) into traffic and just loses possession. Sitting deeper he can pick it up on the break and then surge forward more effectively.

    Also when people say players like Marv & Anita go missing games or are to lightweight for the Prem need to just have some patience. Some of the best players in the league aren’t all six feet plus, e.g Silva,Hazard,Mata,Cazorla, . And how are they supposed to adjust to a new league whilst sitting on the bench. It is clear Pardew has favourites in the squad and players get starts based on how likeable they are not by skill. How long has it taken him to start Marveaux when every man and his dog can see his creativeness. His passes against Arsenal for Ba with the outside of his foot and for Cisse a few weeks back are things Gutierrez could only dream of, but he doesn’t track back enough even though he is an offensive player ? . Rant over 😉

  • 348 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:26 PM


    issue for me is that llambias and ashley don’t know what a good manager should do, neither have real football experience and there is nobody in charge, that i have heard of anyway, who does.

    So the will judge quality by results and not looking into the actual potential of the team. if we come 8th that could be good, but being 8th might be a failure with the team we have.

    And if they let pardew set the goals he could, not saying he would for definite, lower the bar to make himself have some wiggle room if he gets it wrong.

  • 349 Patoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM


    Lmfao Lmfao

  • 350 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    big pappa

    i’d have marv, cabaye and benny all behind cisse.

    let them decide which goes left or right, smart players make runs at the right time into space, they are all smart and know what is going on and how to exploit gaps.

    Then you have sissoko who can break from deep and anita/tiote who sits…still gives us plenty cover.

  • 351 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    Thing was Ashley had the perfect man in Keegan, knows football inside out as well as the toon,but thought he knew better and look how that turned out.

  • 352 beefman13 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Deschamps, has laughed at Pardew for playing sissoko so forward and cabaye so far back, like many on here have said we can see it being supporters. we cant all be wrong surely, can we?

  • 353 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM


    Keegan isn’t a long term option though and, although i hate to say it, is a bit like harry redknapp (but better)

    He wants money for players and will do anything to get it, sacrificing the academy for more money as he did before.

    That works if you have a sugar daddy running the club but if like us you want to start developing talent and looking to use a scout to sign the players (although manager decides off his list and gets them for the positions he wants)….thats just not what keegan wants and he couldn’t work like that.

  • 354 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Carl/Ian bla bla bla

    God you are boring. Do you hear yourself? I can almost hear the squirming from behind your computer screen.

    Do you do profiles on your ridiculous profiles to try and maintain some level of consistency.

    I’ll be going to live in the Toon in September, when that happens I’d love to go for a beer with both yourself and Ian, if that is indeed possible.

    Let the squirming commence.

  • 355 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    @ Sage

    Then I would play (when all fit)






  • 356 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    profiles on your ridiculous personas, just to avoid repetition.

  • 357 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    I don`t know you just need the right people around i mean kk had wise Pardew has carr.If it had been the other way round and Keegan was given these players we wouldn`t be looking at relegation now

  • 358 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    big pappa

    I do like that but think with only sissoko holding he would have to do too much defensive work and it would hinder him.

    much like when cabayae and tiote played together in 442 last year, it worked as they were very good and often held their own against 3 men in opposition, but it took away from cabaye’s attacking game as he had to do a lot of work back.

  • 359 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM


    true, keegan might have been more willing to work with somebody who actually knew what he was doing and not signing nobodies who had a good highlight real on youtube.

    ashley is learning though and by sacking people like wise has shown that he will not tolerate people wasting his money for very long.

  • 360 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Not sure why everyone thinks Ashley knows nowt about football. He probably knows as much as most of us who post on here.
    One of the greatest misconceptions among football fans is that everyone thinks their opinion is more considered and knowledgeable than anyone else’s.
    That’s why everyone thinks pundits are full of shit, event though their experiences of football are greater than that of the common man.
    My views on Ashley are that he is a genuine football fan, who wants the best for the club and who wants to watch good football.
    He wants to be involved in the game, he certainly cannot play, he doesn’t know enough to be a manager or coach, therefore he is doing the next best thing. Owning a club.

  • 361 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:41 PM


  • 362 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Having gone to the trouble of trying to clarify matters for you, quite frankly your attitude stinks. I can’t be bothered wasting any more of my time talking to you. Given our initial contact I am amazed you can now react in this fashion.

  • 363 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:44 PM


    I don’t think he know nothing, just that he doesn’ have enough knowledge to know the right move.

    I know who i would sign as manager but that doesn’t mean there is logic to it. I want soljskaer…2 years managing experience, 2 titles but thats all i really know other than basics like goals per game etc…

    I think it would help if we had somebody like viera working at man city, seems to offer a lot.

  • 364 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    I think Ashley is learning and can now see into his plan and this summer we will know if he has some real ambition for the toon.Surley Ashley can see having a successful team is a way to making the toon self sufficient

  • 365 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:44 PM


    Given our initial contact do you expect me to act in any other way. You were being a condescending, patronising twerp.

    That’s a no to the beer? Wonder if Pushy or Ian would react the same way. Somehow I think they would.

    Ian mate, you’ve got problems.

  • 366 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:46 PM


    Don’t care if you are an individual or a multiple….couldn’t have less interest.

    Just ignore people who say it, try not to psycho-analyse people as it just annoys them and talk football.

    Too many people, not just you, spend more time having little spatts on here that actually talking football.

  • 367 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    Squirming!! In the real world you must associate with some strange people.

  • 368 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:48 PM


    I do think he is learning, mistakes seem to be rectified athough him and llambias talk themselves up over small things, like the wonga deal.

    I think jan was great, but was it to prevent relegation to keep the prem money or was it to avoid relegation so he can build in the summer for long term…we wont know until end of august but things are certainly looking up.

  • 369 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM


    These little spats that you refer to have their origins, my spats with Ian having originated with him psycho-analysing me and me hanging him out to dry.

    I’ve since had “spats” with Pushy and carl for….psycho-analysing me. Coincidence?

    You may think the multiple posters is insignificant, but if these multiple posters use this pathetic tactic to abuse or condescend me, then believe this as gospel I will do my utmost to tear that idiot a new one.

    Little spats are pathetic, but not as pathetic as grown men pretending to be 3/4 separate people in order to validate his own opinion and deride others.

  • 370 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    With you on that mate but seems Ashley quite likes being the villan so we will have to wait and see.I aint bothered about a 5 year plan i just want to see us going forward as a club every year

  • 371 bringbackemre // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    I hate the attitude of seeing gutierrez as just a donkey , in his day he could do special things

  • 372 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM


    i like to encourage everyone’s opinion on here, think even the most extreme at either end have something to offer.

    I know it can be annoying if people have a go at you something which you either didn’t mean or just because it is a differing view to theirs put why worry about it?

    Are people really going to come out and admit they are on person? just ignore the comments and focus on those you like to discuss with, people soon get bored of criticising you if you ignore them…best way mate…on here and real life.

  • 373 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Ruddy why do you insist on single mindedly attacking the best posters on here? You have ruined the blog with your stern reasoning, logic and large words.
    kindly stick to the following subjects:
    1) why pardew is shit
    2) Williamson being league 1 standard (at best)
    3) how any manager would do a good job at our club (even if they’ve only managed for 1-2 years and seen moderate success)
    4) how it’s Pardew’s fault we get injuries
    5) who is going to jump ship when we’re relegated

  • 374 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Sage; I would go with Laudrup. Swansea took a chance on him and he has proven to be a very capable manager. I think Soljskaer could have a big future, but it maybe too big a jump for him. The Norwegian league isn’t the Premier league. Picking a good manager is a risky as picking a good player. Laudrup for me if Pardew goes but I feel he will get another shot, if we stay up which I’m not confident about.

  • 375 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Carl/Ian/Whatever other permutation of your childhood issues you’d like to choose

    Just you try and psycho analyse me again, I bloody dare you you absolute bottom feeding sorry excuse for a human being. Are you so insecure that the only way you can get validation is from yourself in other forms?

    Your opinions of my friends are insignificant, as are your opinions of me. I am safe in the assertion that my real life is much more fulfilling than the sorry socio-path ridden excuse for an existence that masquerades as your “life”.

    Peace Out.

  • 376 martoon // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    I’ve just read ‘waffle’ on the mackem match on
    As usual it makes some incisive points.

  • 377 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    I love talking football but pressed for time. Quite frankly the problem is that 3-4 posters are influenced into the multiple posting nonsense and it makes having a sensible chat difficult. Ian Toon pretty much has quit apart from an occasional chat with Ibiza. Ruddy is confusing me I think with Pushy who I don’t know. When you come across posters who are clearly talking rubbish in your field it’s hard not to try to expose them. If anything you could see it as a hoist of your own petard. I appreciate your interest. Next time we chat I’ll try to make it on football. That is after 3 points on Saturday. Appreciate your interest.

  • 378 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:58 PM


    very few good days though, count them on one hand this season. I just don’t think he is professional and therefore don’t really rate him. Seems a very nice guy but need to do more on the pitch and off it.


    Yeh, the wonga deal a 8mil a year isn’t great, mackems get 20mil a year off invest in africa and have a good deal with an african company next year.

    But the 5 year plan is utter nonsense….never been spelled out what it is, how t achieve etc…and also about 5 years ago sure i heard the 5 year plan was to challenge for the league. I think we just have a plan to improve academy and produce more players of our own and buy what we don’t have on the cheap, but still good quality. That’s all fine by me.

  • 379 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:58 PM


    I can feel the very foundations of the blog crumble with every word I utter…I mean type 😛

    None of those topics are as fun as tearing strips of that posing idiot.


    Differing opinions I can deal with, I encourage in fact as it’s all about debate.

    Multiple personas attacking me? Different kettle of fish. I say what I mean and mean what I say, unlike some others /other I know.

  • 380 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Bye Bye Carl

    Bound to be lights out time in the mental by now.

  • 381 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    @ bringbackemre

    Key words “in his day” . I love the guy as a person but at the end of the day this is business, harsh as it may sound.

  • 382 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:01 PM


    would love laudrupp…just signed a new deal with swansea so cant see him leaving for us.

    he is being touted as next madrid manager so if he has a good season and feels comfortable with swansea, which is getting him recognition, then why would he chance it at newcastle…can’t see it

    be a good shout.

    and true with soljskaer….thats what i mean, i think i know good amount about football for a fan, not for an expert though, dont know ins and outs and caching methods/etc…just mean that what i think is a good idea a lot wont like…same with anyone’s views.

  • 383 jimmysmith // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    For Cabaye read 80% of the 1st team squad, and now having seemingly started to lurch over the final and biggest hurdle of the season, I’m starting to think if we get over the line at all, it’ll be to fall over it

  • 384 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Ruddy if you ever attack me I’m taking my ball and going home

  • 385 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM


    I didn’t mean ir, honest injun mister I didn’t.

  • 386 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM


  • 387 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM


    even if it’s your field of interest/speciality i’d still avoid analysing or at least passing comment on here. Surely as an expert (presume you studied it) you should appreciate people don’t like being told these things unless they come asking for help/a view on it.

    It just annoys people when they don’t want to hear it, regardless of how true. Also a blog is somewhat detached from reality so a lot of stuff on here might not be a persons true character so analysing then doesn’t achieve a great deal.

    And yes football chat is always welcome, as is 3 points which i think we will get on the weekend.

  • 388 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    You really are confused. Pushy is not academically minded and is in the leisure business. He has never analysed anything accept gym memberships and the toon defensive problems. He’s 4 years older and is married with kids but I have never met him. Just gleaned from comments on here – he also doesn’t seem to post other than chats with Ibiza. Have a chat with Ibiza and stop bad mouthing because your not getting anything more from me.

  • 389 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM


    Pissing in the wind, the guy is as detached from reality as Willy Wonka. He lives in the factory of his mind, being served by the Oompa Loompas of his insanity aka Ian Toon, Pushy Pardew.

  • 390 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    @ruddy adding racism to your repertoire? Sheesh you know no bounds

  • 391 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM


    replying just adds fuel to the fire….if you think somebody has multiple accounts to stoke their own ego then surely arguing with them will just stroke it even more and encourage them to antagonise you.

    Best to just ignore these people if you don’t like them and discuss things with people you like and respect (like me :) haha)

  • 392 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    “I think Ruddy is confusing me with Pushy who I don’t know….”

    Yet you know he is 4 years older, married with kids, is in the leisure business and never psycho analysed me?

    Seems like more information than you’d usually have on someone you seemingly don’t know, even in the sense of having never met him.

    You’re well and truly sussed, stop making it any more embarrassing.

  • 393 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:10 PM


    “injun”? Political correctness gone mad I tells ya! 😛

  • 394 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    In case it interests anybody I am an astro-physicist posting from the international space station.

  • 395 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Fair point. Their are a number of phony types on here. Unfortunately I can see through them-LOL. One of the reasons I like and respect Ibiza as I know Ian does is because he’s as straight as a die. Thanks for the advice but not sure it’s really worth the trouble. Got to go but I saw some weeks ago that you might be moving to France.

  • 396 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Aye Laudrup is a bit pie in the sky. I like his persona also. Pardew comes across as a bit too arrogant and condescending at times. I like Lee Clarke too. Had a sticky start at Birmingham but he is definitely putting his stamp on them now. However Pardew is the man for now and he has to have a more positive approach. Hate to think we drop into the bottom three on the last day. 20-1 is a cracking bet and although I wouldn’t bet against Newcastle, if I wasn’t a fan, I would have a wager.

  • 397 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    I took an interest in Pushy only because some idiots on here were linking me and others with him. Wake up your dozing off. Byeeeee!

  • 398 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM


    not moving, just asking torq and niafron’s advice on where is nice to live as i’m a bit sick of england, fancy somewhere warmer and just a total change.

    was france, australia or somwhere in the states i fancy…just not sure if i want to so looking for now.

  • 399 bringbackemre // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    He was a really good player for us before this season , he fought with us in the championship when he could easily have joined a decent team probably in europe ,I know his time is finished as his mobility is really gone but it just annoys me how all the good he did is all forgotten

  • 400 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM


    Well I wish I could glean over the fact that he’s a a sociopathic lunatic but watching him make a total fool of himself time and time again when he’s trying to make me out to be the deluded one brings me an endless source of hilarious irony.

    But this is a football blog, you’re right. I digress and for that I apologise, back to football you say? Well I have such respect for you that I shall do just that!

    So, sack Pardew then? 😉

  • 401 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    And I am definitely not ruddys second account I don’t know the guy. knowing only that he’s 2 years younger than me, Irish, studied law in Newcastle where he got caught up in the local football culture and he has no wife or kids.

  • 402 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM


    Uh huh…keep telling yourself that. One of these days I’ll make you crack 😛

    No to a beer just to clarify? Meet at a game? Prove your multiple existence is not just a figment of your imagination? No? didn’t think so 😛

  • 403 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    GOTCHA yet again.
    Boing, boing spring — straight into the self incriminatory capture net. Another poster had just highlighted the area of maintaining consistency whilst embarking on these multiple personas.
    Well you’ve just stated that you received an email from the girlfriend of a certain poster and that you correspond regularly.
    If my memory serves me correctly following a spat on here said party’s wife suggested that the police should be informed about accusations that he was of a certain disposition.
    Is it wife or girlfriend -surely a mate in regular email contact would know that. Bit of an untidy slip up there. Just stop it -you know it makes sense.

  • 404 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM


    Not quite right, I’ve followed Newcastle for 17 years 😛

  • 405 carl // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Ian some time ago raised with Ed the question of posters with mental health and learning difficulties posting on here. Ed acknowledged that it was of concern.

  • 406 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    And Mr tuff is definitely not our 3rd account

  • 407 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM


    Are you trying to cause problems for us, errrr errrr I mean me.

  • 408 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Damn it, if only I had created character profiles for us like Ian/Pushy/Carl had done.

  • 409 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM


    so what is making you move up to newcastle?

  • 410 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM


    Going back over to finish off my degree, only did the one year before taking some time off, now it’s high time I finish it off.

    Miss the city so I am really pumping to get back over there.

  • 411 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM


    why would it matter if people have learning difficulties. I think people all have the right to post as long as they do not offend others.

  • 412 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    Stop bickering ladies and lets get back to football. Anyone got any constructive opinions on our first choice full-backs (Debuchy & Santon) Good enough?

  • 413 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM


    a poem dedicated to ruddy/ppb/tuff

  • 414 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM


    i loved studying in the city, it was a really nice place to live, from durham so not far away but it’s a great city…have a very lovely tattoo of the city…both bridges and either side of the river.

  • 415 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM


    I’m not convinced that Santon has the defensive fortitude to be our long term LB. Personally, from what little I’ve seen from him I think Haidara will be more likely to be our LB for years to come, even as soon as the start of next season.

  • 416 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    I like toast :)

  • 417 yo-yo // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    What’s all this with worrying about a single blogger with multiple blog names ?
    The number of single bloggers with multiple personalities is much more worrying …

    And BandB

    Much admired many of your thoughtful posts over the months but after the 0-3 you were as rabid as the next man (sic) and even enjoyed (unless you were faking) an online lovein with Beattie ?
    Tonight you have even indulged yourself with a bit of slagging (or sharp banter as some like to call it)

    All this seems quite unlike the football focussed previous persona – have to say I prefer the analytical stuff.

  • 418 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM


    debuchy yes, finished article and gets us a good 5 years minimum

    santon is very lacking defensively, his positioning isn’t great and he also saunters back after attacking which you can’t do. He can learn and improve and if not try him further up, right wing.

  • 419 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM


    When I get over there I actually would love to go for a beer with a number of the colourful people on this blog, would be interesting to see the people behind the personas; that’s not a reference to silly knickers 😛

    It is a fantastic city, fell in love with it the minute I got there.

  • 420 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    @puhwash. I believe they are hood enough. SAnton has all the potential in the world but needs a natural left footer in front of him. Debuchy is damn good and is adapting nicely, and he’s our only decent crosser

  • 421 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:29 PM


    I agree, I think Haidara seems to have a better vision for the game and less prone to errors at the back.

  • 422 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM


    Haidara is such an exciting prospect, has a composure that belies his years.

    Santon could make the move further up the field but he needs to sharpen his crossing and attacking movement.

  • 423 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM


    like it?

  • 424 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Lord I come on here to have a bit craic about football while Wor lass watches her bull crap and everyone is psychoanalysing everyone else.

  • 425 Pugwash // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM


    I know Debuchy is not long back from injury but I still have a niggling doubt. He has not done a lot wrong but I think he has been a little bit disappointing.

  • 426 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    @416 I like turtles

  • 427 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    @ novo

    Welcome to the mad house :)

  • 428 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM


    think santon will be better forward at crossing/shooting if he plays higher up…currently he has to run 50/60 yards then cross…be easier if he is already in that position as less tired.

    but saying that he does need to improve

  • 429 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM


    That’s a seriously well done tat lad, dunno how you put yourself through it, I’d be screaming in agony haha

  • 430 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    @ruddy but imagine Santon and hba switching wings, cutting in etc and linking up with dreamboat cisse and sissoko

  • 431 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM


    Not too bad, just an hour and a half…all fine except the last 15mins or so haha.

  • 432 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM


    I agree, comparisons of Santon with Bale are premature though he does possess the natural inclination to attack that Bale had when he was a full back.

    He needs to develop a left foot and soon. On the right he still doesn’t look confident as he seems to be naturally inclined to cut inside regardless what wing he is on.

    I find him a thoroughly confusing player.

  • 433 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Would be interesting doing a blog social for a game…grab a few beers the head to a match

  • 434 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM


    He does baffle me too…when on the right I thought ‘perfect, can easy cross now’ then he cut in onto his left foot…very odd.

    But he is young and has talent, can hopefully learn and now he has Haidara pushing him which can only help

  • 435 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM


    You could get done for inciting violence…because surely that’d be what’d happen at an NUFCblog social! haha

    But yeah I think it would be a great idea, would make some discussions on the blog even meatier:

    “Beattie don’t talk to me ever again, if you think I’m forgiving you for punching me in the face you’ve another thing coming”


  • 436 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    @ts meet me Saturday at lyh. I will be holding placard labelled “sage”

  • 437 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM


    I must admit he is an exciting talent, but for all his potential he can be very disappointing at times.

    I just think at best he’s a wing back, he shouldn’t be playing any deeper than that. I feel he’s running the risk of being a kind of “jack of all trades” wing player, without truly specialising in one position and becoming world class.

  • 438 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    BPC, I spend too much time arguing with myself to argue with anyone else. I’m not a schizophrenic like.

  • 439 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM


    I can’t make this Saturday haha.


    I think it would be nice to see santon up field for a change.. Which uni will you be at? Northumbria or newcasstle

  • 440 tooninspain // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    I can’t believe we are still seeing mentally challenged posters blaming Ashley for our derby defeat, and not Pardew. To me, the question is simple……who would you rather replace, Ashley or Pardew?

  • 441 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM


    Snooty nosed lad at the snooty Uni, c’mon lad I’m no poly 😛

  • 442 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    @440 Ashley. We want venkys

  • 443 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Toon in Spain

    Pardew obviously.

    Ashley isn’t to blame for derby defeat, he shoulders some blame for the season as a whole, mainly up til January but its the negative and defensive approach in our home games against lesser aides which is costing us.

    Just another 8 points from the 14 dropped to west ham, Swansea, villa, reading and Sunderland at home would see us comfortably in the top half and that should be games we expect to get points from

  • 444 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:00 PM


    Nothing wrong with being a poly haha…it’s the best uni after all 😉

  • 445 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    Anyway that’s me done for the night chaps

    Will speak to you tomorrow probably when I am bored with work.

  • 446 yo-yo // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Right lads and BandB,

    I’ve had an idle hour or so looking at our defensive record since 2001.
    The table won’t print right as the formatting on here is wild but it goes


    01 11th 50 / 49.6 / -6 worse
    02 4th 52 / 50.1 / +22 worse
    03 3rd 48 / 50.0 / +15 better
    04 5th 40 / 50.6 / +12 better
    05 14th 57 / 48.25 / -10 worse
    06 7th 42 / 47.2 / +5 better
    07 13th 47 / 46.55 / -9 worse
    08 12th 65 / 50.1 / -20 worse
    09 18th 59 / 47.1 / -19 worse
    11 12th 57 / 53.15 / -1 worse
    12 5th 51 / 53.3 / +5 better
    13 13th 59 / 45. 8 / -17 so far so bad

    and my point is

    1. we have not conceded less than an ave of 1.1 goals a game this century
    2. we have only bettered the league average in 4 out of 12 seasons
    3. even in the four seasons we have had a better than average defensive performance we have only once bettered the league average by more than ten goals
    4. In our last five EPL seasons we’ve conceded more than 50 goals.
    5. For two of the 4 seasons we’ve conceded fewaer than average we’ve been within 3 goals of the average – so not much better really.

    My point is that although I’m sure Pards and the coaching staff are well aware of our pretty dismal long term defensive performance – he has been unable to turn that around. IF he truly is a defensive coach (and I’d question that) then he is failing big time even by his own standards – which at least ought to be bettering the league average.

    The problem has continued despite almost all our managerial changes since 2000-01 – we have a poor defence. Unless we can stabilise that we are going nowhere long term.

    Everyone on here looks mostly at win/lose % for their shiny new managers – which is a good start point but is too crude an index IMO we need to look at a much wider range of stats before judging potential new coaches/managers.

    And this season could very easily still all end in tears. (and as you’ll know I’m usually a glass half full person )

  • 447 tooninspain // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    YoYo….can you just run that past me again please

  • 448 Transfer Sage // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Yo yo

    Still think he is defensive. We aren’t good at it as we invite too much pressure by being too defensive and letting teams attack us as we don’t tackle or pressure til they in our half.

    Whether we are defensive or not we are certainly not attacking as we don’t create much at all, 2nd lowest chances created last year…on sky sports so can’t find exact stat, just what they said. (From home game vs Wigan show they did)

    Arguably our problems could stem from us neither being defensive or offensive and just basically being there…have no real plan by the looks of things other than a few games where we have a plan and when we do it looks like it pays off…Swansea away last year, stoke away last year, man utd home etc etc.

    Really going this time, have fun chaps

  • 449 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Good analysis that yo-yo.

  • 450 yo-yo // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM


    A synopsis

    We have a shite defence whoever is managing.
    It’s getting worse not better.


  • 451 breno95 // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Many posts tonight and i see the self elected leader of the blog is wearing out his keyboard tonight.

    Just want to clarify the 17yr supporter of the toon claim. Pretty sure that Ruddy has previously posted that he is 22 yrs of age and only started ‘supporting’ the toon when shearer signed from blackburn. Some could view that it was the player and not the club being supported as blackburn was his club.
    In some respect it was a shame shearer was not sold to another club. At least if that had happened then this blog would be rid of the patronising, self indulgent arrogant ass who believes he is superior to everyone on here with the exception of his poster pal/s.
    Would be better if ruddy had stuck to his word a while back and stayed away.
    Cant have everything though.

  • 452 Mister Tuff // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    The fascinating element for me this weekend is what tactics are going to be employed.
    Defensive hoping to get a breakaway goal- or all out attack -(or none of this inviting them on mularkey). West Brom are clearly beatable -we hear the players wish to right the wrongs of the Sunderland game -so they should be up for it. There has been no mid week game so fitness/stamina should be ok. Does Percy deviate from recent tactics, is he able to change. Will he gamble and play Benny. Is Benny really ready -full game or substitute appearance. Massive game -if we get three points I think we will be just about safe.

  • 453 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM


    Care to talk about football?? 17 years ago was 1996, and Shearer signed in 1996. Watched the Euros and thought hje was amazing and little 6 year old that I was followed him, he then signed for Newcastle and I was hooked.

    Problem with that?

    Also, where’s your proof for anything you’ve claimed? I just think you’re sore because I gave you a verbal smackdown a while back. Envy is a terrible trait 😉

  • 454 Novocastrian66 // Apr 18, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Don’t know why so many people get wound up by what other people write on this blog. People have a right to have a opinion and people have a right to disagree with an opinion. This is generally called debate. Try debating your differences without lowering yourselves to petty name calling and questioning people’s intelligence or hurling insults.

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