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Newcastle Pick Up Even More Injuries

2:03 pm, Friday, April 19th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 159 Comments

When this season is over one question that should be asked and answered, is how come Newcastle players have picked up so many injuries this season, and too many in training.

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Alan Pardew – two more injuries

And Alan Pardew has just said that French U21 International Marveaux is injured, and will miss the game tomorrow at West Brom and that Cheick Tiote is now very doubtful for the game.

Marveaux has suffered another groin injury, which is what he was suffering from a week ago, when he was held back from the Benfica second leg game.

And Cheick Tiote is said to be a big doubt for tomorrow with yet another a hamstring problem.

This was the report Alan Pardew just gave on injuries:

“We’ve got a couple of injuries on top of those we knew about,” “Cheick’s a big doubt, and Sylvain Marveaux will miss out with a groin injury.”

We’ve had an unusual series of injuries this season, and only last Sunday Tim Krul dislocated his shoulder and is out for the season.

And  this week Ryan Taylor picked up another ACL knee injury, and now we are told Marveaux and Tiote are out for the vital game tomorrow – presumably injured in training.

Is this just bad luck?

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Tags: Cheick Tiote · Injuries · Newcastle News · Sylvain Marveaux

159 responses so far ↓

  • 1 barkintoonfan9 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    hatem ben arfa better be off the burgers, he has too start this match!!!

  • 2 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Re post:

    Anyone see that Schrulle is going to Chelsea?

    Sad times. Brilliant player. Shame we can’t compete with them.

    I’d love us to can and splurge some major cash on a player like Julian Draxler, that guy is immense.

    If only we had a billionaire in charge who could afford it.

  • 3 Mister Tuff // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Definition of a tree:- A woody perennial plant, typically having a SINGLE TRUNK growing to a considerable height and bearing lateral branches at some distance.

    Definition of a bush:- A shrub or clump of shrubs with stems of moderate length.
    However I’m sure you are aware of another “slang” definition of a bush.
    Come on Ibiza you need to wake up to get the jokes you are showing signs of lethargy -bit like a Toon player.

  • 4 Rainrix // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Well tiote being out is probably a good thing in reality. HBA can just slot straight in for marv. He’s looked nackered for a while anyway has marveaux

  • 5 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    What’s going on?

    Pardew is injuring them to excuse our relegation?

    I’ll try and be helpful with my next post…maybe.

  • 6 JackButler // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    For me it can’t be a coincidence that our injury nightmare began when we moved to our current training complex.
    We pick up more muscle pulls and strains than anybody else.

    Either our fitness and conditioning is sub-standard or there is a serious problem with the make-up of the training pitches or both, something that I remember reading about a while ago when Sir Bobby ordered them to be checked

  • 7 Markaccus // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Ibiza…. your team from the prev post. Pretty much exactly what i wanted. Same personell but with socksand perch(or gutz) playing deep and cabs as the 10. Socks has a freer role and perch blocks. I think thats basically what jack and sage were getting at too.

  • 8 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Tuff….So the bush comment comes in as we were talking about a female? I get it…I think :)

    I thought I had used an example of a tree that was in fact a bush…and I was pretty sure a pine tree is in fact that…a tree.

    Damn it Pardew, look at what you’re doing to me!

  • 9 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    God loves a trier haha and ur 433 idea u know who would be brilliant as lone striker with that? 😉 Zlatan…Balde would be crap 😀

    MORE INJURIES?! Eesh u couldnt make it up still HBA in for Marv and Anita/Perch in for Tiote not so bad

  • 10 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM


    definitely doing something wrong, there is really something up with our training ground/methods

    I’d be interested to know how long the current fitness coaches have been there, if its a long time might be there work. If not could be the training facilities.

    Be also interesting to see players injury records before, during and after playing for us. see if we just have injury prone players or if we make them that way.

  • 11 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Mark…We seem to be losing Cisse with this 4-2-3-1, so we need to get other players joining him. I don’t care what formation really, but players need to press and then get involved. It’s simple really. Just move it!

  • 12 Markaccus // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Injuries have been a problem here for many years…. even the most ardent anti-pards cant blame him for that. Ok he has not resolved it but niether has any one before him…. including SBR

  • 13 Mister Tuff // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Ibiza my post/clues may have been slightly obtuse -but you got there.

  • 14 Markaccus // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Aye. Get their butts into gear andhelp out poor pap.

  • 15 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Yo…You have Zlatan on your books too?

  • 16 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Elliot debuchy hadiara mbiwa saylor perch sissoko cabaye gouffy ben arfa ciisse.

    It really still isnt to bad, cabs further forward and perch n sissoko behind, sissoko can still burst forward when the space is in front of him, cans wi benny n gouffy feeding cisse, hadaora n debuchy bombing wide, no excuses.

  • 17 roshan MAGPIE // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    marveux injured so guti will play wow

  • 18 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Tuff…Sometimes I need these things clearing up for, I appreciate your patience :)

  • 19 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Haha oh how I wish that were true not for the money but the sheer joy of know Zlatan

  • 20 Rainrix // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Beefman…. One problem with your line up, no jonas 😉

  • 21 ErnestHemingway // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM


    This a late reply as I’ve been caught up with actually having to do some work.

    I wasn’t trying to say we were an attacking team and I wasn’t implying that we were a defensive team. Merely that we have had enough chances to win games quite comfortably. I don’t need to look at stats in order for me to believe this to be true. I only need to look back at pretty much every game we have played this season and look at the gilt edged chances that we have missed, even when we have been playing poorly. And the lack of quality strikers – indeed, that lack of strikers full stop – is in large to blame for this.

  • 22 Markaccus // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Only way to get gutz in is as a dm. Unless cabs and socks sit deep hba no10 and guts on the left. He did canny there switching to the centre now and then v chelsea. Even got a good goal.

  • 23 ErnestHemingway // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    After the January transfer window, I was feeling very pleased with our business. I would say most people were. Two of my close friends were not, however. They said it had been a failure as we had failed to bring in a striker. I laughed. Others laughed. We all laughed and felt sorry for them for not being happy that we had brought in 5 new faces. With the benefit of hindsight, I think they may have had a point.

  • 24 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Pardew getting his excuses ready for Saturday.

    Reporter ‘So Alan, your team lost again today after 4 excellent West Brom goals and this result leaves you closer to relegation, what are your thoughts?’.

    Pardew ‘Well you know we had some big, big players out today. Tiote who is a big player for us, trust me. And Sylvain who is another top, top player for us. Without those 2 we looked tired, lacked cutting edge and we had to bring in players like young Hatem who isn’t ready quite yet. He shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team if I’m honest. Them we had the midweek game against our own u21 team that took all our energy and fitness away, and even though we lost that as well, I can say we did great. Even though we got beat 4-0 today and didn’t have a shot on target, I couldn’t ask anymore from my team. When you look at that pass from Haidara to Jonas on the left wing, if that had have gone to Jonas and Jonas had skinned 6 players before putting in a wonderful cross to Cisse and Cisse heads the ball in the net, we’re talking 3-1 and a totally different game. The officials if I’m honest as well had a poor game. The fans put too much pressure on us to get a result and the 40 minute plane journey took its toll. The bombing in Boston was on the players mind. Rolf Harris being arrested really got to the guys, you could see it out there. The death of Sunita in Corrination Street had a part to play, trust me. We’ll look ahead to next week against Liverpool where I think we can welcome back some big players. Obertan will be back and that’s a bonus. Trust me.’

  • 25 JackButler // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM


    Simon Tweddle is our fitness coach and has been at the club since 2011 during which time our injury list has grown steadily.

    Our first team coaching staff consists of Pardew, Carver, Stone, Woodman and Tweddle………………is that enough?

  • 26 ErnestHemingway // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Tiote is no miss at all. Marveaux is but we only managed to sign him as he failed is Liverpool medical and has been a sick note for two years now. This is no surprise to me.

  • 27 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM


    teams have missed guilt edge chances to us too…so could have lost even if we took ours. I think in a lot of games we haven’t created a single chance of note.

    Similar to last season in that a lot of our goals are wonder goals, they come from a long strike or a mazey run….not enough team/well worked goals in my eyes.

    I think overall we create no where near enough chances, created the 2nd lowest last year but scored a high percentage so we managed to get a lot of wins. This year it’s been the opposite, we haven’t taken many chances but also stuggled to defend.

    Last year only man city and man utd had more clean sheets, meant our goals scored were usually winning goals.

  • 28 Markaccus // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Beattie….harsh… but flippin hilarious. Death of sunita in corry… lmao

  • 29 Rainrix // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Beattie… I didn’t see the old pardew “we was” phrase in there. Come on man you cant leave out the classic “we was tired” or the “we was penned in” excuses :)

  • 30 lucasnufc // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Much rather Perch than Tiote anyway and we have Anita to cover. Ben Arfa replaces Marveaux. We still have a strong team.

  • 31 Markaccus // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Ok im off for a while. If anyone sees torq tell him im on the bus and finding out what i can!

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM


    suppose, there must be a reason something goes wrong for us though, can’t be bad luck for so long.


    marv has been pretty good fitness wise, had surgery to correct his long term problem and not missed a lot of games really since.

  • 33 lucasnufc // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Also, Beattie that has helped me chuckle through some work. Quality stuff

  • 34 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    rainrix, of course, Jonas will play instead of perch, shame yet again, Jonas has had more kicks up the arse this season than Charlie caroli!

  • 35 Rainrix // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Ernest… I dont think its fair to call marv a sick note like, he’s been fit all season really its just pards has an aversion to playing him. He was a sick note in his first season but by the looks of things his groin troubles been cleared up once and for all with his op, one of the main reasons he missed so many games at rennes.

  • 36 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    If Anita doesn’t play this weekend alongside Sissoko with Cabaye up further than those 2 it’ll be the stupidest thing ever.

    A little terrier nipping away and bringing the ball out technically, passing it to a monster with pace and power who can instantaneously change defence into attack, playing it to a man with finesse and grace and can find a key pass out of nowhere and send a through ball to the attackers to create a chance.

    Yet some want to play Perch.

    He’s a cult hero and a good tackler, but he isn’t anywhere near the player Anita is.

  • 37 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM


    Ill be honest, I can’t stand seeing Pardew in an interview so I missed his key words. I read them though and can’t believe the tripe he comes out with.

    Everyone has their favourites but mine remains ‘we’re safe now, we don’t need to look at it’.

  • 38 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    what the F**k goes on on the training pitch.
    Got to be something/someway we train our players
    Just gone back to the top of the injury list table with 8 out.

    When Paul Ferris was Physio at Newcastle told me that a lot of the players refused to train on the indoor pitches at the training centre as the surface was ungiving on the knees and groin when turning quickly.

    Don’t know if they do now or they have changed the surface

    Don’t know if its luck but Stoke and Swansea have been sitting at the bottom with 2 injuries each for most of the season.

  • 39 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    The fans favourite is certainly ‘they wouldn’t let us put crosses in their box’

    Ha ha ha

  • 40 pkk17 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    @beattie HA! perfectly on point

  • 41 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    I went for Anita too but can see why some want Perch.Think Anita has shown enough to be a starter

  • 42 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Lawros predictions don’t look good for us haha.

    Also look at the league table he has…utter moron

  • 43 shearermania // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    why does anyone want anita to play….hes the worst midfielder ever to play for nufc and i do include des hamilton….
    to me hes an alibi player…he hides, dosnt want the ball, makes no runs, nowhere to be seen…..frankly i rather play gosling (and that says a lot)…anita was supposed to this playmaker defensive midfielder (and purple too)…just cant see it….a lightweight…rubbish in my opinion….there go and object (i do think hes better suited as right back though)

  • 44 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Ernie Hem, in fairness marv has been fit 9/10th of this season, many a time AP had him as a sub, same with Anita who was coming in to some lovely form, dropped sitting on the bench getting 20 mins here and there, I really don’t think our manager is strong enough to drop some of his purple?????? players, that is a massive weakness in a coach, massive!

  • 45 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    E we home knows that part of the ashley model was to but players with bad tempers and injury prone players because their value is not balanced with their talent.

    Marveaux is injury prone. We all knew that. We sign injury prone players, ill tempered players or players with release clauses/contract issues.

    The only players I’m surprised we got were Cisse and Mapou. 2 players yet to be injured.

  • 46 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:35 PM


  • 47 JP...from The Rock // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    It’s definitely not a case of bad luck anymore!! Something is wrong-VERY WRONG. Be it the physios, warming up, cooling down, the surface, something is surely at fault for the endless injuries we keep on having.

  • 48 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:35 PM


    I think that perch is best for DM now. Need somebody who can tackle, anita isn’t the best for me at that, don’t think he is up to being a DM currently, not keen on his tackling really.

    I think with cabs and sissoko in there too you can afford a player who is mainly defensive in perch, he can also play a decent simple ball and does so much more often than tiote.

    Not against anita, just prefer perch.

  • 49 shearermania // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM in melbourne..its almost midnight…still think anita is no good…(nipping at a bottle of nice shiraz though – so you got the drinking part right)

  • 50 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Shearer mania

    You are a walking example of a fan that only watches Newcastle United games and is totally ignorant of other teams, leagues and countries.

    Either that or you’re saying things to start arguments because no rational fan of football would say such stupid things.

    He might not have shown continued excellent form but any fan with half a brain can see glimpses of a real player in Anita.

  • 51 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Lawro has QPR as 7th with his predictions…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it truely angers me that the beeb pay him for this stuff

  • 52 JP...from The Rock // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Other seasons it’s cost us some valuable points that could have steered us to perhaps a CL spot but this season it could cost us our premier league status! This is ridiculous and a real worry. We never seem to have a near full strength team-NEVER!

  • 53 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM


    it has to be…no such thing as bad luck. There is definitely something wrong somewhere in our training. the chances of us getting as many injuries as we do as often as we do must be extremely low yet it continues to happen under every manager and backroom staff team.

  • 54 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Truely harsh on Anita though hes no world beater (or certainly hasn’t been whilst in a black and white shirt) hes not the worst CM going

  • 55 JP...from The Rock // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    And if we somehow do have a near strength team it never lasts more than 2 weeks! ridiculous and embarrassing that we’re always top of the Injured Table year after year. Something that needs to be looked at ASAP!!

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:40 PM


    yeh i know, its so funny reading that table….not sure what he brings to the table in terms of analysis.

  • 57 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Shearermania, its all about opinions, For me Anita just needs regular playing time, this stop start playing time is no good for anyone.

  • 58 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM


    That’s sad. I liked you once upon a time.

    I suppose it comes down to whether you prefer technical players who could in theory play out of trouble and build sustained attacks through ball retention or whether you want to invite pressure by losing quality in the middle and sacrifice technique for a player good in the tackle.

    I think players like Perch invite pressure. If Anita and Perch both played you wouldn’t see the best of Anita but Anita in with Sissoko and Cabaye would certainly showcase the little mans ability.

  • 59 shearermania // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    beattie 25…im with pards on this one…he dosnt seem to fancy the mighty Anita either….what im saying is just that im so disappointed in this lad, i genuinely thought with all this hype that he would be a great player – sorry guys i might be wrong (i bloody hope i am) but i just cant see his greatness… so underwhelmed

  • 60 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Pro Liverpool bs? He doesnt seem to understand his job and is clearly biased

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:45 PM


    not ignorant not to watch other league, i mainly watch prem league, dont watch lower league much if at all and watch champs league but not too much of foreign leagues other than a bit of spanish.

    I just think in newcastle anita hasn’t done much, not as bad as suggested above but not a stand out star. He keeps the ball and moves but for a DM he isn’t a good tackler and also I haven’t seen anything of him in a toon shirt to suggest he has a good range of passing, nice little tapping stuff but nothing longer distance.

    Might be due to lack of games, him adjusting to the system we play, lesser players than at ajaz etc etc…it hasn’t been easy moving from a passing team at the top of the league to a sloppy team in the bottom half….so see why he has struggled. In his defense though he did improve until he was dropped.

  • 62 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    If anyone watched an Ajax game on the second half of last season you would see the talent Anita has.

    Pardew has mishandled him. I’d rather put a player in the match from day 1 to get used to the tempo of football in this league and allow him to make mistakes than to give 10 minute cameos and make him watch from the sidelines.

    If Anita had played more he’d be used to the league and showing you all up with your blatant ignorance of football.

  • 63 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Tomorrow i want to see Ben Arfa in the “Sissoko” role, and Sissoko as a defensive midfielder/box to box with Cabaye slightly more offensive. Jonas right and rest of the team picks itself.

    I’m afraid it won’t happen though, and that we’ll see Ben Arfra right and Jonas AND Cabaye as DMs “just in case”.

    Have a good feeling though! We have everything to play for.

  • 64 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    beefman…I threw out some “stats” earlier about what has been our most played team this season. Granted it came from Wiki so needs checking, but I was shocked to see Marv and Anita are both in the top 11 starters this season.

    Take a look:

    I will add though, that I don’t think Anita has been given a long enough run to hit any real form. I think the lad is class, but hasn’t had a chance to settle to date, but nor has he earned, imo, the right to be a guaranteed starter…but then neither have many of our team this season.

  • 65 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Anita played a load of games in Cabayes absence and in the Europa league (where he should be been more at home) he showed little

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:47 PM


    it’s a shame you dont like me anymore haha.

    Thats where i disagree though, i think perch is a good player on the ball, he doesn’t often lose it and is a solid DM. tackles well and also moves the ball on quickly to the better players around him, knows what he can and can’t do and thats a great strength of his i think.

  • 67 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Transfer Sage

    It is ignorant if you don’t watch other leagues yet feel you can comment on them.

    I wouldn’t talk about the Portuguese league like I knew what I was on about when I don’t watch any football from there.

    It’s ok to say I haven’t seen enough of a player to for, an opinion or to say for me he hasn’t showed anything, but to rule him out as being rubbish and worse than Des Hamilton is plain ignorance.

    Not aimed at you btw.

  • 68 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    In the run of games before December Anita was one of our best players picking up numerous mom awards only to be dropped for Pards favorites and now given a bit part in a midfield he would thrive in

  • 69 shearermania // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    beattie i agree that in ajax anita was a good player but hes not playing the same position here and we are definately not playing the same formation and in the same way ajax is…..we are not dominating games like ajax is….we only play well when we are reacting to going a goal down etc…anita is wasted in our setup im my humble opinion,,,just thought he could adapt better…..

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Some charming poster yesterday suggested that there are a few “retarded” posters blaming Mike Ashley for the three nil humiliation last week,I don’t think that anybody is naive enough to blame one result on our formerly portly owner,however his pig headed and stubborn decision making is directly responsible for our implosion this time round as were his lies the last time we faced then ultimately were relegated.

  • 71 shearermania // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    and please dont say im only watching the epl..that would be an insult to my wife who constantly bashing me for watching footie all the time

  • 72 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    some one must accept the dire straights we are in and it certainly is not the supporters so who’s it to be?

  • 73 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM


    fair enough then, i get where you’re coming from with that.

    I just think for us aniat struggles. He may have been great at ajaz, wont deny that, never saw much of him and the games i saw ajax play city cant say he stood out to me, thats if he played i dont know.

    Just I think moving from a passing team, which dominates their league (or at least always around the top) is much easier than playing for a mid-low table prem league team who play more long balls and dominate a lot less, more on the backfoot with us.

    Not saying he isn’t good, just not sure if he is right for us at this time or possibly at all. At man utd he would look good as he wouldn’t have a lot of pressure, would have a lot of the ball so more time and space to pass plus more players would make good runs for him.

    Time will tell, hope he comes good and gets some more game time.

  • 74 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM


    The games in which he has played (which by the way is too few to form a well balanced opinion) he has been asked to be Tiote or be Cabaye. He’s been stuck on the right wing, stuck at full back and asked to be the warrior Tiote is.

    In this rigid awful football system nobody has shined, so I don’t understand the abuse Anita is getting. He is a ball player. Good in the tackle but better at finding space and passing the ball. That’s his job.

    He isn’t Ben Arfa skinning players for all their worth or Cisse smashing them in from 30 yards, he’s a midfielder that sits deep, supports the defence and plays the ball out.

    One of his biggest attributes is composure but the style Pardew plays voids all composure Anita has because when the ball isn’t flying over his little head it’s coming at him whilst 3 players surround him or he’s looking for a player that simply refuses to offer any movement or support.

  • 75 JAMSHA // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Fifa 14

    i see obertan scouted by spurs lol 😀

  • 76 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM


    I do think you need players who can put in a tackle…not at the total expense of being able to pass/keep the ball but soembody who tackles well and anita can’t be that guy which is what he would be if alongside sissoko and tiote.

    Hell if we were safe it would be worth a try to see if we could win buy dominating in a passing sense more, but we aren’t so hard to risk him now…but the alternatives aren’t great.

    For me its him or perch in that DM role i think.

  • 77 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    spot on beattie

  • 78 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM


    That’s a different story. I agree he’s wasted but I cannot understand why you would say he is the worst midfielder we’ve had since (or even worse than) Des Hamilton.

    The lad would have many suitors all over Europe if we decided to sell him and we would easily get our money back, he isn’t a bad player and is highly regarded all over Europe.

    The manager is not using the right players in the right position in the right tactics for any of the team to show any quality.

    If Anita is worse than Des Hamilton the surely Saylor is worse than Darren Peacock, Canaye is worse than Dumas and Cisse is worse than Guivarch.

  • 79 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Anita has played 35 times this season 8 of which he came of the bench, thats a lot of games and he has made minimal impact on our squad. He may be a ball player fair enough but when hes had the ball in the PL hes lost it or missed a pass more than he has done anything positive with it imo

    Am not saying hes a bad player at all but hes not shined this season, he hasn’t broken into the squad and he has added nothing more than depth so far.

    Also for a ball player he doesnt seem to like to show for the ball.

    Now he is a Carr buy so that buys him time and this is his first season in a very different league so its harsh to judge him so prematurely either way but just because he was good in one league doesn’t mean he will excel in the PL. He needs to do more in the remaining games, pre season and next season but he has to earn the right to start now

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM


    And you are worse than kets?

    Sorry got to stop this, can’t have your sprit crushed….who would crush everyone else then haha

  • 81 shearermania // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    beatiie youre right….i overreacted – hes not the worst..Des was defo worse and there might have been one or two other…

    one word from your post stood out though regarding our tactics and that is RIGID..our formation, the way we play its so alarming predictable……and thats the main problem in our setup….its boring… no runs, no movement and then a hoof ball and cisse is yes off site….

  • 82 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    could take more than one regular season for to shine thru not in pardews reign tho

  • 83 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:04 PM


    Sissoko can be that guy and Anita is a good tackler. Perch is better but then that doesn’t mean diddly squat when you compare all the other attributes.

    It’s confidence I think. I just think this season has drained all confidence out of all the players, including Anita.

    Anita will soon show what a player he is. Whether that’s for us or someone else time will tell.

    It’s managers like Pardew who would play a midfielder because they can tackle better that is the reason English football is so crap. Football is about what you do when you have possession, winning it back is secondary.

    Pardew wants the opposition to have the ball in the hope we can win it back and punt it and score.

    We need a midfield that tries to win the ball but if fails tracks back, supports and plays the ball when possession is won by the defence. We don’t need a midfield that tackles, wins the ball and doesn’t know what to do with it.

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM


    Anita reminds me of somebody….I’m wanting to say Michael Winslow from police academy but don’t think it’s him. Definitely somebody American….and it’s an actor who plays a cop, not sure who though…thinking 80/90s

  • 85 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    He is Don Cheadle to me mate haha

  • 86 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM


    Disagree winning the ball bak is secondary. You can’t do anything with the ball if you can’t get it back. Both equally important.

    But I think I know what you mean. Can win it back in more ways than tough tackling. Like Barca, press opposition into mistakes and also still be able to tackle.

    But I think perch is good with the ball. Think he has a good balance of attributes.

  • 87 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:09 PM


    You seem to think I’m saying he’s done well, m not, I’m saying he’s not as bad as people say he is.

    Again to blow more of my hot air over the blog he has been out of position, forced to play tactics that doesn’t suit him or the team and been second or third fiddle to Tiote, Perch and Cabaye.

    If he had played 10-15 games in a row than we could debate the points in question.

    I’m seem to remember our best game this season against Man U away and Anita playing superbly. Now I won’t give that as an excuse as to why he is amazing but other lesser games shouldn’t be points as to why he is shit.

    Criminally underused and now criminally underrated by our own fans.

  • 88 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    Perch is like Tiote for me in that he gives away needles freekicks in dangerous area`s and goes missing after a booking

  • 89 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM


    Could be him….I think it’s his teeth. Stand out a lot and there’s a few people with them, enough to notice a comparison to a couple of people.

  • 90 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Ah right mate fair enough. Some of the opinions on him are harsh, I said that to shearermania, I agree but equally I dont think he has shown enough this season to justify him starting many more games than he has or really the price we paid for him in comparison to the money we spend on other transfers

    And if Anita doesnt suit the team tactics like u say sell him and get someone in who does

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:13 PM


    I suppose, he does have his flaws I agree. I just like perch, think he is very under and over rated at the same time.

    I have really come around to jack Wilshire this year, he has kicked onto another level. Always thought he was overrated but showing his potential now. The way he picks a ass but can also skip past a few people is something special. Can’t see him being an arsenal player much longer…city or united will have him.

  • 92 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM


    In terms of midfield, playing the ball is more important than winning it. Just like the opposite applying to the defence.

    The onus should be on defence to win it, midfield to play it and forwards to score it.

    Of course each department helps out the other in terms of 90 minutes, but those are the fundamentals.

    Pardew seems to play defence wins it, midfield wins it, attack holds it up.

    I still have lots to say on the pressure Pardew puts on players to do things unnatural to them and how this affects their abilities (Ben Arfa tracking back) but I can’t be arsed.

    Next subject someone please.

  • 93 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    what tactics more like tic taks

  • 94 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Picks a pass…totally different to what I said

  • 95 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Wow if reading and QPR win, Sunderland win, we draw and villa do the unthinkable and beat manure then QPR and reading will be relegated Monday night!

  • 96 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Everytime I see Anita I just see Cheadle in the Oceans 11 films. I agree its the teeth they are chompers no doubt

  • 97 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    This is getting a little silly now. I think there can only be 3 reasons for it

    1) The players aren’t fit enough. They always look shattered in the last 20 mins even though we don’t do ”pass and move” and when we’ve had FA cup weekends off and as a result injure far too quickly and easily. My guess lack of fitness is the major culprit for so many injuries.

    2) Secondly are they doing ”passive-tacking” in training or full on, all-in. I suspect maybe the latter.

    3) Are they doing any kind of short muscle exercises, ie aerobics, yoga, swimming etc? Again it seems unlikely.

    If training consists of 4 days a week on defense, can anyone please explain how Johnson was given the freedom of St James park for his goal.

  • 98 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM


    I prefer how Spain and Barca work. Everything is done as one unit. Press high up and forwards defend by chasing down opposition aroun own box, midfield around middle of pitch and defence if try get through, then they all attack together as well with only a couple staying back.

    Not saying we should be indentical but we would be a lot better defying from the front instead of making our forwards track back to defence before they pressure the ball.

  • 99 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    Perch is better than Tiote as he does know his limits and keeps the ball moving just hasn`t got enough of an all round game Anita has agree on Wiltshire is gonna be some player providing he can stay fit same as HBA

  • 100 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM


    That’s what I’ve been saying to, but not just about Anita but the whole team.

    If we’re going to scout these technical players and sign them only for the manager to use long ball tactics then we’re obviously going to lose and the players will obviously look crap.

    It needs to change. Either bring in a manager who can use the technical players properly or sell the players and buy players this manager can use.

    I hope it’s the first option but the board either need to back Pardew or sack Pardew. The relationship between the players and manager doesn’t work.

  • 101 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    ok have i got this right
    the club buy the players
    pardew selects them
    tells them how to play
    we are in trouble with his tatics
    or his constant miss selection
    or is everyone tired
    i certainly am

  • 102 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Equally its harder to make none technical players play technical football than it is to make technical players play less technical football which injuries have made of our squad

    Plenty of circumstances surround this season and its not as simple as blaming the manager

  • 103 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM


    I see Anita get frustrated because no one moves in to space. They’re all totally static. We are about as far away and disjointed in our play as you can get from Ajax’s free flowing total football.

  • 104 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Rotonda that’s a fair comment, we are far to static, teamwork is awful, a bunch of individuals, someone is needed to shake them up get the in to gear properly.

  • 105 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM


    I agree but I was talking more about the first things you associate with each position without getting so detailed regarding tactics.

    Keepers save, defenders tackle, midfielders pass and strikers shoot.

    That is just the simplest thing you can categorise footballers with. Tactics and putting on pressure and all those things come after as the team takes form.

    Im just saying I’d rather have a midfielder who is good at tackling and excellent at passing than a midfielder excellent at tackling and good at passing.

    If we played Barca style football Anit would be a better pick than Perch everyday of the week.

  • 106 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    I agree but that doesnt mean Anita should be starting games

  • 107 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Perch ahead of Anita, Marveaux mainly on the bench, Cabaye sat very deep , Cisse played as a winger. Puzzling it is.

  • 108 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    @105 so pardew should play tired players /out of form before him

  • 109 Transfer Sage // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM


    I agree with that. Just not sure anita is excellent at passing and good tackling.

    From what I have seen, just of him here, he is good at passing and average at tackling. He doesn’t get help with movement so difficult to find players who don’t want to be found though. He has been sloppy with simple passes but so has everyone, so not sure who or what is to blame exactly for that?

    coaching maybe.

  • 110 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:29 PM


    Don’t agree.

    It is harder to make technical players play in an odd non technical system than vice versa IMO.

    How come Swansea can look like a top continental team most weeks with players like Luke Moore, Wayne Routledge and Ashley Williams?

    If a player can do the fundamentals correctly then they can play in a technical system set up by a competent manager and it’ll make them look amazing.

    Put Perch in the Swansea team and he’ll look like a brilliant technical player.

    Asking technical players like Cabaye to play like a food old fashioned English midfielder like Vinne Jones is harder for Cabaye. He’s been playing technically for his entire career, since he was a boy learning the game. Now he’s being asked to run around and tackle and kick it up field.

    It is easier for average players to be good in a great technical system than for great players to play good in an average non technical system.

  • 111 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    John Tudor
    U are assuming Anita isnt tired from the PL and is in form? Which I really pray he isnt because if this is him on top form then maybe Carr was conned

  • 112 Harley // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Lets go 442

    Deb, Taylor, mbiwa, haidara

    Hba, sissokho, cabaye, jonas

    Gouffran, cisse

    I think whatever team we play I fancy us for a win. I think the players will be fired up and well rested.

    For me a win tomorrow and were safe.

  • 113 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Even though last week completely knocked the stuffing out of all of us, there is another scenario were, the Mackems who still have tricky games to come, could face there old manager getting promotion with Hull, Stevie Bruce, AND THEN WATCHING HIS OLD TEAM DROP IN TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP, we all; know things like this happen in football, especially, just a thought, but what a nice one.

  • 114 WWYCD // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Fair enough mate I agree to an extent but I have to go and dont have time to go into what I disagree on (I know u are gutted haha)

    Have a good one and dont rile people up too much

  • 115 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Beattie @ 24

    absolutely cracked me up. I’ve copied and pasted that for the archives!!!

  • 116 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM


    It’s easy for me to say and easier for others to call me anti Pardew but it comes down to tactics.

    Anita has been coached by the world famous Ajax youth set up and was managed by Frank De Boer and Dennis Bergkamp in a season where they won the league and many argued that Anita was the best player for the 2nd half of that season.

    If nobody moves when you’re looking for a pass then how can you play better passes.

    If you get the ball and turn and your own players don’t move and in the split second you look for a pass nobody opens themselves up for a ball and the tactics being used means the opposition has free reign of the midfield then you’re either going to misplace a pass, get tackled or hoof it aimlessly.

    It really is that simple.

  • 117 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    no i think pardew is wrong to put in tired out of form players constantly he is thinking they’ll get me out of this but sadly he is wrong

  • 118 beefman13 // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    Of course Wigan are another one of Bruce`s old teams arnt they, CANNOT STAND THEM EITHER, I LOVE THE DERBYS AND THE BANTER, SO ITS A TOUGH ONE.

  • 119 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    what if its three former and the team he loves is not there

  • 120 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    wigan and sland down or has hull risen yet

  • 121 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    @Transfer Sage

    I know what you mean, every time I see Anita. I think he looks familiar

    Could it be Harold Perrineau who played the guy in the wheelchair in Oz?

  • 122 John Tudor // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    and i never assume anything

  • 123 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    For me if we want a high tempo pass and move midfield its Anita.If we want to sit and let the opposition dictate play then Perch

  • 124 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Well we’ve got our excuses prepared. Might as well wave the white flag.

    I’ve been thinking about why we have so many injuries and asked myself who benefits from these injuries. In most cases it’s James Perch who fills in all over the pitch, therefore he must be somehow crippling all his team mates to get in the side.

    It’s just a thought. Seems as good a reason as any

  • 125 lesh // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    And for the funsters……..

    Why did the chicken cross the road softly?

    ‘Cos it couldn’t walk hardly!!

    [Could hardly walk geddit?]

  • 126 Earl // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Reading more articles with Pardew suggesting he won’t be starting Ben Arfa either. I could be completely wrong as i’ve never used the website source before. Bit if true, with Marveaux out, i’m struggling to think where our creativity will come from. Just hope we aren’t dead and buried before he does come on!

  • 127 Spotlight Kid // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    The injury issues at NUFC, and potential training ground problems, will remain one of the key subjects here until it is resolved – and rightly so. At one point the blame was pinned on tree roots just under the playing surface causing irregularities. Either way – if it is a surface related issue, it should be resolvable.

    However, maybe it is something much simpler? We are importing so many players used to a much less ‘bracing’ climate, that the usual training warm up routines are simply not enough to compensate for the inclement conditions on the NE coast? Let’s be honest, even after some time out the toon (down south) stepping off the train/plane can cause a sharp intake of breath at most times of the year. These lads never ‘get used to it’ as they live in superheated apartments / houses, drive in superheated Range Rovers, and then – arrrgghhh, ma jambe!!

    Just a thought.

    PS: I can’t see NUFC or SAFC going down even with less than 40 points as the bottom 3 are utter sh** this season.

  • 128 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    For me it is Anita in preference to Perch. Particularly in our remaining games. I could accept Perch ahead if we were playing Man U/City or Chelsea, but now, when we have to go out and show we can play football it is Anita. People also seem to forget how awful Perch was at first, well Anita hasn’t been as bad and has the potential to be much better. IF given a chance. Socks and Anita with Cabaye just in front.

  • 129 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    So true, I wanted to climb straight back on the plane to Africa when I arrived back for the Anzhi game!!

  • 130 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Pardew interview if anyone is interested in what this fool has to say:

  • 131 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM


    creativity ? Our manager probably thinks that’s a Croatian full back!!

  • 132 Spotlight Kid // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM


    Please, no!!

  • 133 Novocastrian66 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Spotlight; how many pints do you reckon the 3rd bottom team will get? I reckon Wigan will get at least 7 points taking them to 38? 40 points may be needed, I think we will do well to get another 3 to 4 points.

  • 134 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    It laughable the interview.

    Small, petty insults to a team that thoroughly out played us last weekend.

  • 135 Beattie25 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Win tomorrow and we’ll be fine, lose and I think we’re down. Draw, well it’s anyone’s guess.

  • 136 Earl // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    @Rotonda haha and refers to Willo as ‘HOOF’

  • 137 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Thanks but no thanks heard enough shite from him i want answers on the pitch Saturday not excuses

  • 138 Novocastrian66 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Err I meant points! Thinking about what I would like to be doing later!

  • 139 Earl // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    *tactical hoof, obviously…

  • 140 Novocastrian66 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    I would be happy with a point tomorrow, think we will lose though. On Pardew’s press conference nice to hear they’ve been resting all week and working hard. WTF?

  • 141 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Novo…What’s the issue with that? They’ve been able to rest up with 6 days between games, but in training have been able to work hard towards the game, not sure where the issue is.

  • 142 Jackel001 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Think the only thing out of that conference that I don’t really think he should have said is ” Sunderland can only dream about a quarter final in the Europa league”

    But not going in to that too much, get a result tomorrow and everything will look all peachy again!


  • 143 Novocastrian66 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    I know what he meant, but it wasn’t what he said. He could have just said we’ve been working hard in training. He hoyed the working hard bit in after realising that he had said they had been resting all week. He dropped himself in it.
    I don’t believe for one moment that they’ve had the deck chairs out it just didn’t come across right.

  • 144 Novocastrian66 // Apr 19, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    I bet Sunderland dream about losing in the quarter finals of the Euro League all the time. The interviewer was after a reaction and got one, though Pardew thought he was being clever.
    It must be tough doing these press conferences and I thought he generally handled himself well, but he fell into two traps. The tired one and the Sunderlqnd one.

  • 145 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Novo…Apologies, don’t meant to come across as an angry parent of anything, but often people pull him to shreds after press conferences and you are right, the press are looking for a reaction and he can only be rehearsed so much. Overall I think he handled it pretty well.

  • 146 YankToonFan // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    No it is not mere bad luck. The physios should be sacked as soon as the season is done.

    Pardew as well

  • 147 Novocastrian66 // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    No apologies necessary mate. Happy to explain what I thought. Something else I noted was he was in the whole fairly calm. I have seen managers in a similar position in the past looking under pressure. He certainly didn’t give that impression. Sometimes a calm head can settle players nerves.

  • 148 chris_g // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Spotlight Kid // Apr 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM says:

    “The injury issues at NUFC, and potential training ground problems, will remain one of the key subjects here until it is resolved”

    Yes, and I’ve got a feeling that Charlie in the Gallowgate @38 might have identified the cause of the problem when he wrote:

    “When Paul Ferris was Physio at Newcastle told me that a lot of the players refused to train on the indoor pitches at the training centre as the surface was ungiving on the knees and groin when turning quickly.

    Don’t know if they do now or they have changed the surface”

    I’m guessing that they haven’t yet changed the surface – you may recall that before the lads played the away game against Anzhi Makhachkala they didn’t train on their own plastic pitch but trained at Gosforth RFC’s 4G pitch instead.

    Obviously the reason that they trained at the rugby club was because that pitch was more similar to the one that they would be playing on in Moscow – ie. a modern 4G plastic pitch. Which suggests that the pitch they’ve got at Benton is clearly no longer ‘state of the art’, and needs to be upgraded as quickly as possible.

  • 149 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Novo..Oh go on, let me be sorry :)

    He was calm, which can only be a good thing at this stage. Just hope they can all put in a great shift tomorrow and try to salvage something.

    Whatever the reasons are, this season does need saving. We can point fingers later.

  • 150 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    comment 139

    has to go alongside

    ”they won’t let us pass it in to their box!!! Rotten meanies!!!

  • 151 Rotonda heights // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    140 even!!

  • 152 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Rotonda…Don’t doubt your sanity…all of the numbers just shifted…must be a mystery post to search for that escaped moderation.

  • 153 woolerbill // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Is there anything our management has not messed up, we need quality all over this club or we will be down and out. Money is pointless if in the hands of idiots.

  • 154 archaeomag // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Cheick Tiote has not been the same since he started messing with his hair.

    The rest of it is due the Curse of W@nga . . . .

  • 155 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    archaeomag…And where have you been hiding lately?

  • 156 archaeomag // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    On the next post

  • 157 Patoon // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Our remaining fixtures
    West Brom (a) 1 point
    Liverpool (h) 0 points
    West Ham (a) 1 point
    QPR (a) 3 points
    Arsenal (h) 1 point total 42

    Sunderland remaining fixtures
    Everton (h) 1 point
    Villa (a) 0 points
    Stoke (h) 3 points
    Southampton (h) 1 point
    Spurs (a) 0 points total 39 points

    Wigan remaining fixtures
    West Ham (a) 0 points
    Spurs (h) 0 points
    West Brom (a) 1 point
    Swanssea (h) 1 point
    Arsenal (a) 0 points
    Villa (h) 1 point total 34 points

    Stoke remaining fixtures
    QPR (a) 1 point
    Norwich (h) 3 points
    Sunderland (a) 0 points
    Spurs (h) 0 points
    Southampton (a) 1 point total 39 points

    Down- QPR, Reading and Wigan

  • 158 Spotlight Kid // Apr 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM


    It would be useful for all the lads on here to play the BBC predictor:

    Putting my pessimistic hat on (my normal one) I was still unable to relegate NUFC – and despite the team only gathering 37 points it managed 16th place, just above Stoke. This was mainly due to the tough games faced by the current bottom 3.

    I can’t see any of the bottom 3 breaking through 35 points to be honest, with the exception of Wigan maybe. That said, it would be Stoke that would slip.

  • 159 Patoon // Apr 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Cant c us goin down either but a club this size with a fan base this size and with the squad of internationals we hav we shouldn’t even b thinking of this, i hope Alan Pardew reads this blog lol also hope his balls turn square and fester at every corner

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