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Newcastle Pay The Price For Missed First Half Chances

7:10 pm, Saturday, April 20th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 317 Comments

Newcastle looked a very good side in that first half today, and we thought our lads were going to get the win we needed to relieve the agony of being beaten 3-0 at home by Sunderland last Sunday.

alan padrew at west brom

Alan Pardew on the sidelines this afternoon

But after going ahead with a nice goal from Yoan Gouffran, after good work by Papiss Cisse, who brilliantly put in an excellent cross that Yoan headed home, Newcastle missed some golden opportunities to bury the game in the first 45 minutes.

First of all, on 22 minutes Steven Taylor was clear just five yards out and looked like he must score – but he hit the ball straight at Foster who blocked it.

And then Papiss Cisse about five minutes later intercepted a poor back pass to Foster, as Newcastle had West Bron rattled, but Cisse chipped the ball – and it went over the bar.

Papiss should just have put his foot though the ball and it would have been a simple goal.

But then West Brom were much better in the second half and got the equalizer from Billy Jones after 64 minutes and in the final quarter of the game it was fairly even, although West Brom had a number of corners in stoppage time – but Newcastle finally saw out the game.

It wasn’t the result we wanted – but it wasn’t another defeat either – but we have only 4 points from our last five league games – which is not good.

Alan Pardew in his comments after the game said we should have won:

“After last week against Sunderland it was a decent result.” “We took a lot of criticism but today we showed plenty of energy and character.” “To be honest the game should have been over at half-time.”

“West Brom went direct in the second half but if we had scored that second when we were on top we might have been leaving with all three points. “

We should have done what we did last year, and we should have been 3-0 up at the half – and then the game would have been over, as Alan says, but “shoulds” don’t count.

And when you cannot score from simple chances, Newcastle will continue to struggle this season – with just four games to go.

We are 6 points above Wigan who are 3rd bottom, but they have a game in hand on us, and Aston Villa are at Old Trafford on Monday, and they are 4th bottom 3 points behind Newcastle.

We’re 5th bottom right now – which is hardly good – but we’re just 4 points (because of our poor goal difference) out of 11th place and Fulham.

But a win against Liverpool and we’ll be safe on 40 points (hopefully), and then we can build in the summer for next season.

Hope springs eternal.

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317 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Yo yo

    I’m sorry that my studies in physics has been misinterpreted by yourself.

    Chaos theory does offer the principle that actions cause chaotic and unpredictable reactions but as I said Pardew is in control of that. With a decent manager there is no need to submit everything to the impredicatabilty of chaos theory.

    If you create an environment where negativity can be neutralised (or close to) and allow positivity to breed then any consequence of that positivity will likely yield positive results. If Cisse is coached well enough and confidence builds then a positive outcome is more likely than a negative one. If in training Cisse has similar efforts and Pardew trains him correctly how to take those chances then you eliminate the randomness of a butterfly effect taking control.

    Pardew leaves to much to chance.

  • 2 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Manxpie

    You won’t understand any of that so ill put it differently for you.

    In training Cisse miss so Pardew say ‘no Cisse shoot like this’.

    Cisse try again and Cisse score in training. Cisse does it all time until it is natural.

    Cisse play real match and Cisse have chance. Cisse rely on instinct and Cisse score because manager coach him correct.

    Me clear retard?

  • 3 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    The worst bit about the game was that West Brom were totally there for the taking we were cutting through their defense easily and they were making mistakes left right and centre

    Boom 2nd half we never bothered going forward but if we had looked to attack them I think we would have been comfortable winners was like the Villa away game
    where we invited bombardment but this time we did not get so lucky

    The Liverpool game is going to be a tough one if we play like the 1st half we could give them a proper game but if we invite them onto us we will get pummelled Gerard always scores against us or does well we were unlucky to not get the win earlier in the season against them

    With regards to the team we should not make any personnel changes except maybe have Jonas out for Arfa/Anita Liverpool are not that physical so we need a good passing side out for it

    But what will probably happen is we will rush Tiote, Colo and Marveux back and struggle and if our players are tired this week give them a few days off training to freshen them up !!!

    I think because Pardew keeps coming out with saying we are tired it makes the players think they are tired

  • 4 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Harley

    I think people are just getting fed up with Pardew. I’d have taken a point from the game before it started too.

    Then having seen the great play in the first half I was beginning to think we were going to see an unlikely victory but true to form Pards set the team out to sit back and defend a slender 1 goal lead, which, when we conceded, we then looked to defend the draw.

    Given how we all knew we could play, given how we were playing, given how the 3 points were there for the taking if we believed in the team, why does Pardew settle for less than the best?

    The spirit and work rate in the first half was faultless, but the intent in the second half was all wrong.

  • 5 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Pardew

    If we had done this or if we had done that!

  • 6 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    WBA unusually played 442 in the first half and it didn’t suit them. We had loads of time on the ball.

    He changed it at HT and we were given less time and it was the usual rubbish.

    Strange substitution with Haidara, why not take Jonas off?

    Pleased for Gouffran, and Perchy what were you doing.
    Should have scored more but it was a penalty and we should have lost.

    Lucky point.

  • 7 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    West brom went direct in the second half and i just didnt know what to do so i started filling in my crossword again and everytime john gets up he doesnt know what 5 across is either.

  • 8 JDdubai // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    It wasnt a foul hatems man, let alone a penalty. 2wrong decisions evened themselves out.

  • 9 Toonarmy77 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Lazy, effortless blame placed in Pardews lap as per usual!

    Do the players not foot any responsibilty for the display!! We take our chances 1st half and we win the game!!

    Wigan lost people and we drew. One more win and we are safe and can rebuild in the summer with an already good squad!!

  • 10 croftus5678 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    @8

    i’ll second that. no way was it a foul

  • 11 lukes26 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    to me, this season is the opposite of last season.

    we played very poor football for the first few games of the season, but defended well. somehow nufc went unbeaten through 11 games, when they were second best for large parts of those games.

    this season were outplaying other teams, but the results are going the way of possession & chances created.

    The difference is obviously the defense. No Tiote, Colo, and, yes, Simpson, & the lack of form of Jonas, is the difference this year. Pardew’s ‘style’ of play demands a superior defense.

  • 12 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    JDdubai

    Years ago it wouldn’t have been a foul.
    Perchy went to ground and took the WBA down too. Whether you get the ball is irrelevant in modern football. You don’t go to ground or you leave yourself open to a numpty with a whistle’s interpretation of the rules .

  • 13 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Ruddy,
    Do you think that the second half implosion was down to Pards telling them to hang on to the lead,if it was it’s fusking criminal.

  • 14 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    I’ve figured it out.

    The enitire fan base is watching 2 different games, that’s why we see things so differently.

    To the guys like lukes26 who think we’re outplaying teams, you’re watching notts county or juventus. You need to sort your streams out.

    Glad that’s sorted it.

  • 15 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    @9
    Have to agree with that, not saying pardew is blameless we sat way too deep second half, but it’s not helped when a team full of international “class” players can’t seem to remember how to pass the fcuking ball!!
    Not to mention a CF who misses chances that most of us would put money on our gran scoring!

  • 16 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Either Pardew told them to hold back or his team talk was shit. Either way the team that changed at half time was nufc not WBA.

  • 17 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    P out and that Cisse out!!! …with Ba 1-1??

  • 18 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    First half high defensive line we played football in their half.Second half we fall back and defend from our own 18 yard line and invite pressure.They score,hit the bar etc what does Pardew do throw Ameobi on as per usual.Pardew is out thought by a manager in his first season as a manager

  • 19 wreker16 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Oh Beattie, your posts are so entertaining, don’t go and hibernate again, the blog suffered in your absence

  • 20 BigKirky // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Ed, I think the title should have been ‘Newcastle pay the price for sitting back in the second half and not continuing to attack the opposition’. :-) :-\

  • 21 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    sorry scrap that he’s just came up with an even better infact belter!!

    “You won’t understand any of that so ill put it differently for you.

    In training Cisse miss so Pardew say ‘no Cisse shoot like this’.

    Cisse try again and Cisse score in training. Cisse does it all time until it is natural.

    Cisse play real match and Cisse have chance. Cisse rely on instinct and Cisse score because manager coach him correct.”

    Me clear retard?

    and again great use of your vocabulary with your last word i mean you’ve called me disabled and a retard i just hope your kids aren’t that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tosser!

  • 22 BigKirky // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    By efficiently attacking and retaining possession, you are indeed defending at the same time.

  • 23 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    I know what pardew says at half time.

    “You are feeling very sleepy when i click my fingers you will sit back and not attack i repeat not attack”

    Click

  • 24 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    JfA

    Personally, I think he told the team to be much more liberal in attack because he was cacking himself that we would conceded, and then when we did concede he was so afraid we’d concede again that we sat so deep to defend the point.

    The point of view that some say that the players should have taken their chances we’d have won the game and that is right, but a manager must respond to whatever’s happening in the game, Clarke successfully responded, whereas Pardew did not.

  • 25 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Manxpie from previous thread

    I’m definitely not sitting on the fence at all.

    I’ve defended Pardew for too long, I’ve doubted his ability for a little while and the Sunderland result made me question everything about his management.

    Yes we lacked investment, yes we’ve been dogged with injuries, but my point is that most weeks, even with injuries, we’ve had a good enough XI (on paper, or performance whatever way you want to look at it) and we’ve not dominated teams much weaker than ourselves and as far as I am concerned this is not good enough.

    He is putting a leash on the creative aspect of this team all in the name of keeping it tight and until that is challenged from the top down we will never see this team reach its true potential.

    Pards has had alot to contend with, but his ethos doesn’t suit this team and he needs to make way to allow this team to grow.

  • 26 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    Just be glad that Cisse is getting chances with the shit creativity we have.

    If it wasn’t for his movement and ability to find space not only would we be bottom 3 but we wouldn’t create shit.

    It’s all fair blaming him for missing them but at least he can still get shots in with these awful tactics.

    If we actually had the ambition to create more than 2 or 3 chances a game then Cisse would score a lot more and you toss pots having a go would be cracking one off over your live streams.

    Part time fans, no ambition but to be able to watch the team play on Iraq goals every week against ‘big’ teams like Arsenal.

  • 27 Marty-Toon // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    We couldn’t hold onto the ball for more that two passes,it was a shambles in the second half.
    It’s been like this all year with ridiculously nervous passing.
    We look useless but top class in the first half.
    Would love to see Jonas sold but it won’t happen.
    He’s good defensively and that’s why Pards puts him on to make us harder to beat not to beat teams harder :-) he’s such a defensive minded coach.
    Terrible season,he’s been hiding behind excuses the whole time.
    Agree we’ve had a terrible injury crisis but today we had a good choice of players.
    Terrible changes as usual
    Gutted for the lads that are quality on the field

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    I also think we miss that degree of calm that colo brings to our backline he’s about the only player we have who doesn’t seem to get drawn in to blind panic, he’s not that vocal but he’s calm
    Watching Taylor these last few weeks has been like watching those inflatable arm flaying tube men they have in ground at barca games!

  • 29 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    hope they can keep this going and not go defensive 2nd half as per.

    manxpie

    it’s not your fault you come across as a retard. Monkey see monkey do.

  • 30 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    ruddy you say

    “Yes we lacked investment, yes we’ve been dogged with injuries, but my point is that most weeks, even with injuries, we’ve had a good enough XI (on paper, or performance whatever way you want to look at it) and we’ve not dominated teams much weaker than ourselves and as far as I am concerned this is not good enough.”

    but you say that to me without repect for the other team who has got there way of playing without the injuries and changes that we have had to do or plannining we’ve had to do for the europa and btw we weren’t that bad against sunderland 3 wonder goals and guess wat we could have scored 3 ourselves!!

  • 31 Toonarmy77 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    @TDS

    Pardew has to shoulder some blame without doubt but its a collective failure

    Ive not heard one player say a bad word about Pardew and how he trains the team and in a relegation scrape that is rare

    Lets get the win we need and see waht happensin the summer

  • 32 Spotlight Kid // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    “I would expect us to challenge for top 10 next season but we have got to stay in the division.” A.Pardew – post match comment.

    Genius, pure genius, AP!

  • 33 Spotlight Kid // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    …in fact almost worthy of KK.

  • 34 lukes26 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    beattie..

    newcastle are obviously not as good as last year. what im saying is that its the defense & some bad luck thats the difference.

    from the sunderland game:

    19 shots newcastle
    10 shots sunderland

    65% possesion newcastle
    35% possession sunderland

    sunderland 3 newcastle 0. 2 poorly defended goals. 1 unstoppable goal from etherington (i think)…1 goal disallowed from cisse

  • 35 croftus5678 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    @26

    am i one of the tosspots having a go ?
    we dont need to go into playground rules i dont think as some of us a way past school age !
    and the thing is cisse is not as good as we thought he was in his first season with us ! not that it means he’s a bad striker because no one is saying that !
    but if guti missed those kind of chances i’m sure you would see things differently.

  • 36 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Beattie …that was a joke : ) ok get it!! If Ba not Cisse…: )

  • 37 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Souness Pld 83 W 36, D 18, L 29 win percentage 43.37%
    Pardew 107 39 29 39 36.44%

    And he’s getting rapidly worse the longer he gets. He has the worst stats out of any manager we’ve had.

    He officially plays the worst football in the league.

  • 38 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Manxpie

    You seriously are the worst blogger on the site. You really offer absolute zilch in terms of thoughtful contribution to the topics at hand.

    Your mind is polluted by a toxic sense of righteousness that enables you to make the silliest opinions ever generated.

    Seriously I think you must be a troll if you think Sunderland wasn’t that bad. Who says that?

    I am ignorant, arrogant and a complete cock but at least I do not delude myself to such a degree my points become worthless, my opinions become weightless and my posts become unreadable.

  • 39 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Also not to sure about the Colo comments he is one of the worst players for losing his head especially against players like Long he loses the rag this season

    Thought Mbiwa defended great today Taylor was all over the place though we need to buy another top drawer defender and then put Taylor as the 3rd choice defender as he is not good enough to play every game and would also not be surprised if he gets injured before end of season

    Elliot looked a bit shakey today as well he has been quite good since he came in but today he was flapping at crosses all day long

  • 40 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    toonarmy77

    Again you can’t operate on ”what ifs and buts” all the time. The only thing our manager is consistent at is making excuses.

    They were obviously under the usual instructions second half to shut up shop instead of going for a 2nd and third goal. It’s been this way for so long now, it’s as deflating for the fans as it must be for the players.

  • 41 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Manxpie

    My issue with Sunderland game was the spirit, not necessarily the quality, they were gutless, but the defending was pants too.

    Someone alluded to football as a game of chess between 2 managers, and the winner is the manager who is shrewdest, makes the right changes and works out the best tactics in an attempt to win.

    I doubt Pard’s tactical nous to do this and that’s my issue with him.

  • 42 wreker16 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    We weren’t that bad against Sunderland!!!!!!!!

    Fml

    Once you take out our lack of motivation, creativity, shambolic defending and inability to pass a ball, then I see where you’re coming from.

    The different stream theory proposed by dr Beattie is gathering speed.

  • 43 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Cisse the clever out!!! P out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 44 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    rotunda well done but you missed the last part of your quote “as always” but in fact we’ve played much better in the second half this season so good for you trying to make you look much better than you are and at the same time championing a really offensive term!!

    well done rotunda!!

  • 45 croftus5678 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    @37

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Newcastle_United_F.C._managers
    nope quite a few there inc shearer and kk’s second reign

  • 46 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    OUT IS OUT STOP TALKING…BULLSH…. WE RE ….. : (

  • 47 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Ruddy/manxpie
    Lads I think you both have valid points no need for the angst lads!!
    On the players, I don’t care who your manager is, what your told at half time, you don’t just forget how to play football it was a complete implosion!
    And I don’t think it’s harsh to criticise the players for not taking there chances, any pro, pundit, manager will tell you in football you have to take your chances! And a Newcastle number 9 does not miss open goals, it’s not good enough, for me this is where we miss demba, he could create a chance out of nothing, even in a team playing badly, cisse needs the chance’s created for him, that’s not a dig he’s just used to playing in a more fluent team, if we continue with pardew then you have to ask is cisse the player for us?

    On pardew
    Yes he got it wrong in the second half, there’s not much more to it than that, why didn’t benny come on sooner? Don’t think anyone away from the coaching staff can answer that

    And come on lads lets not resort to calling each other retards! Your above that Beattie! Stick to cock ;)

  • 48 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Cisse&Pardew go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 49 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    toonarmy77

    do you think the players are really going to come out and publicly slate Pardew. They have to tow the party line or risk fines etc

    Mind you I seem to remember Ba and Colo our top scorer (still) and our captain making derogatory comments about the amount of hoofball being played

  • 50 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Lukes

    It’s not about stats or fact and figures its about what you see with your 2 eyes on a match day.

    Croftus

    You might be a tosspot if you think it was aimed at you. Your response obviously means you thought I was talking at you so you have taken offence to my point.

    My point is that Cisse is creating chances and the few he is making he is missing. It’s not talent that’s the issue it’s confidence and coaching. Cisse has a playing career proving he scores often. The fact is not that he’s missing (whilst it obviously hurts our chance when he does) its that we are not creating enough for him. That’s what people should be complaining about.

  • 51 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    CISSE VS BA??? PAD VS….?

  • 52 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    I hate stupid players….hmm….who….????

  • 53 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    I really really hate stupid….

  • 54 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Tads

    No angst, just thought there was a little bit of condescension on his part which I took exception to.

  • 55 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Tads

    I often say that my most colourful and offensive comments are saved for retribution to previous insults.

    Manxpie insulted me for a comment not even aimed at him so I unleashed hell upon him.

  • 56 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Lucky is lucky…stupid is stupid…

  • 57 Toonarmy77 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Fair play Rotonda, i can argue with that but just want unity until the last game on the season

    Pardew is here to stay until then, so we need to cheer the lads on until we get the 3pts we need then start calling for the managers head

  • 58 Dennis Twice // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Cisse is Cisse, Ba is Ba…..

  • 59 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    manxpie

    you tried to tell a joke about Di Canio and right wingers a week after everyone else. So forgive me if I suspect you’re not a man with his finger on the pulse exactly. Retard maybe a bit harsh from Beattie though.

  • 60 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Cisse needs a striker beside him not a cdm and everyone loved him the last few weeks.

  • 61 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    haha beattie i’m happy aslong as you know your a tit!
    worst blogger on here haha i bring up issues against your same old same old bashing pardew
    do you remember you quit the blog because you weren’t getting the attension u needed haha wat a loser man or do you remember the “big announcement” that you messed up haha maybe you should look a little closer to home to look for the worst blogger hey and you have to just look at the last 2 reposts i’ve made to know the absolute nonsence you spout!!

  • 62 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    People talk like Shearer, Ferdinand, Gallagher, Macdonald etc… Didn’t ever miss easy chances.

    Strikers do. The difference was the service then and now.

    We used to create chances for these strikers and now we don’t due to the negative football.

    If Shearer missed a chance in the first half, you’d bet he’d score in the second. If Cisse misses in the first half you can bet he won’t get a chance in the second.

    There is an argument that no one can surely oppose?

  • 63 Mister Tuff // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Just had a look at the League table for the last 5 years for the points totals for the bottom three. Whilst what has happened in the past may not be a guide for what happens subsequently -it possibly suggests another 3 points is needed.
    2011/12 25,3136
    2010/11 33,39,39
    2009/10 19,30,30
    2008/09 32,32,34
    2007/08 11,35,36

  • 64 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Ruddy
    I know fella, but your one of my favourite posters don’t want to see another sabbatical! ;)
    Think it’s hard to debate on match day tbh, but think your both right and there’s a middle ground to be found in your arguement

    I have stuck up for pardew, and will continue to support him whilst he’s manager here, but I think if its at a stage where he’s out of ideas on how to get the lads fired up, playing with atleast some sense of pride, then things need freshening up, and not just with pardew, with the entire coaching set up
    Have to admit I’d be disappointed to see us start next season with carver as assistant, plenty of passion but apart from punch ups and bans I’m not really sure what he brings to the table

  • 65 dids // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    pardump clearly has huge ambition top 10 next year if we stay up absolute joker what is this? am i actually hearing this or am i tripping. clearly arnt gonna move anywhere with this clown in charge PARDEW OUT ASAP!!!!!

  • 66 croftus5678 // Apr 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    @50 beatie

    yes i did as it was me with an opinion about cisse.
    and the chances he creates himself i would not be so quick to pull him down on more praise him for.
    the easy chances i class as silly mistakes from him are like todays and benfica’s not to mention the offside that he has around a minute to get back onside for which he should be ironing out as they are striking basics.
    and i do not know many strikers who need more chances than he’s getting before scoring so do not think we have a supply issue tbh (i will have to look into this if you can give me a strikers name that you think is on lvl with cisse i will look at shots to goals)

  • 67 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    toonarmy77

    we are totally safe as wigan have blown it but it shouldn’t gloss over the fact we need a new dynamic modern manager with a consistently good CV.

    A top 10 finish is not really what I want to hear with the players we’ve got now. That’s going backwards and further lowering expectations.

  • 68 Guj NUFC // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    If Aston villa some how manage to beat Man United on monday, QPR and Reading will both be relegated

  • 69 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Manx

    I have delivered more quality on this thread than you have in your existence on this blog.

    I quit the blog because nobody would agree with me that Pardew was shite. I was fighting up hill and being insulted for it. People questioning my loyalty, my love and my passion for nufc. Every time I was on I was bashed.

    I am not the perfect blogger, I am in fact amongst the worst for my profanity, my arrogance and my unrelenting views.

    But I can hold my hands up and admit my misgivings. That already makes me better than you.

  • 70 Guj NUFC // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    ….leaving only 1 place

  • 71 LeedsMag // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Not at the game today so really interested to read the posts after Pardews prickly post match comments re unfair criticism last week.
    It sounded like same ol same ol – very promising turns into backs to the wall – it does seem as if other managers can make changes that affect games and Pardew cant – its plan A or nothing and hope that the better players produce.Please tell me I’m wrong or we are in deep trouble

  • 72 dids // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    PISS POOR MANAGER GAVE HIM A CHANCE ATER THEM WORDS IME DONE JUST RETIRE MATE

  • 73 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    manx

    remind me where we are in the table

  • 74 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Croftus

    Suarez is twice the player Cisse is but needs nearly twice the amount of shots.

    He has for the past few seasons but this season it has clicked as he’s not trying to do it all himself.

    Cisse is trying to do it all himself.

  • 75 dids // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    TOP 10 AIM IME F****N FUMING

  • 76 dids // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    TOP 10 IME FING FUMING

  • 77 Fridge // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    If someone on here think we played good in the first half then please watch it again. We are shite. Unbelievably bad! What a completely dissapointing performance!!

  • 78 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    dies

    You’re my favourite.

  • 79 dids // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    get this loser out hes a disease wil spread worse and wil lose out whole team ruining players carrers 1 example anita

  • 80 Toonarmy77 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    I hear you rotonda and thats what we all want but who out there would come and work with the budget that is on the table??

  • 81 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    leedsmag

    it was definitely same old same old. great for 20 mins or a bit longer, then down came the shutters and all initiative surrendered .and good old shola came on for the usual spot of hoof ball.

  • 82 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Cisse needs help up top. He has decent hold up play but not as good as Ba or most other strikers in the league. either pair him with Gouffran or play 4-3-3. My team for Liverpool

    ——————————-Elliot—————————–

    –Debuchy——–M’biwa——–Collocini—–Haidara–

    ———-Sissoko———–Cabaye————Anita——–

    —————————–Marveaux————————-

    —————–Cisse——————-Gouffran————-

    If HBA is fit, same back 5

    ——-Sissoko——–Cabaye———Anita——-

    ——HBA————-Cisse——–Marveaux—–

  • 83 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Tads

    No worries lad, think I might stay around for a while at least, sometimes I get frustrated and need time off to charge the batteries haha

    I think we need to re-evaluate where exactly the coaching set up is taking us.

  • 84 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    We weren’t good in the first half based on the scale of shit-amazing but we were better than usual.

    It’s the illusion of a Pardew team. People think we’re playing good when in reality we are just not playing as bad as usual.

  • 85 Cisse's Big Toe- Not Quite As Anti Pardew As Beattie Crew // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Our goal difference could really come back to haunt us

  • 86 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Good to see Ruddy speaks the same I have tried to say for ages…

    …I was starting to feel lonely at the top ;-) (but then again I would rather we did well)

  • 87 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    beattie you called me disabled the other day so i feel i told you then how i felt about using that kinda stuff and now you call me a retard so tell me how u can back that up
    and rotunda that was a joke that prob every1 has heard wich wasn’t offensive where as using disabled or retarded as abuse is so get your finger on the pulse lad!

    cheers tads i weren’t trying to be condicending on ruddy but the fact he’s gone from 1 stance to the other and the way he attacked pardew seemed unreasonable especially after 1 game!

  • 88 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Beattie

    “Chaos theory does offer the principle that actions cause chaotic and unpredictable reactions but as I said Pardew is in control of that.”

    I do hope your tongue is wedge tightly in yer cheek as that is a load of old toss. If Pardew could anticipate and control the unpredictable effects of chaotic inputs then he would be Master of the Universe :)

    Instead of dressing up an anti-Pardew opinion as pseudo-science if you had simply said the team responds to the manager’s instructions (or not in too many cases) and it is up to him to anticipate and plan for the opposition’s tactics then fine – it is a truism. But ….expecting a manager to accept responsibility for every kick of the ball means players are simply marionettes with their strings being pulled very tightly by the manager. Like I say that is a load of toss.

  • 89 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    pardew though :/

  • 90 Guj NUFC // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    How we miss someone like Demba Ba, he was a ‘complete’ striker for me. I remember when he was going to get sold in January and many people said they would rather have an in form Cisse than Demba Ba… I think we just need to get to the summer and have a long hard rest, and evaluate what needs changing/going ETC and if Ashley wants to sack Pardew I will thank him for what he has done in his 3 years here and wish him well in the future. Until then, he’s our manager. Whether we like it or not.

  • 91 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Toon army 77

    Well there’s all differing opinions on that but I don’t think Ashley is as bad as when he first started. Remember KK and Shearer were popular choices just wrong people, wrong time.

    I think we could get a young modern driven manager with a consistently good CV who wants to play football for 90 mins with a fantastic squad (half the team are current French internationals.)

    It’s really sad to think we have to keep Pardew because no one else would come. Not sure that really is the case.

    people say pardew is better the devil you kno in hic case we are stuck with mediocrity with the odd good season insterspersed with flirting with relegation for th enext 8 years!

  • 92 croftus5678 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    @74 beatie

    your right if you do not class games played then cisse is only just behind suarez on shots-goals (maybe its cos i never watch other teams that i do not realise how much they miss chances)

  • 93 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    BPC
    The thing is cisse doesn’t work as part of a CF pairing really and Marv is shite on the wing so until we actually get an out and winger or 2 CF’s who work as a pair were not going to see the answer, certainly won’t see it til next season now

  • 94 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    might aswell get carroll back and let the long ball be effective if we re stuck with pards for 8 years

  • 95 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Manxpie

    I’ve defended Pards, but in recent months I’ve questioned him, and believe me my basis for this is not based on one game.

    Do you really think I’d be that foolish?

  • 96 Fridge // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Pardew said in interview that we have good finances, good players and targets a top 10 next year. If only we had a top manager i say.

  • 97 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    people say pardew is better the devil you know in which case we are stuck with mediocrity with the odd good season interspersed with flirting with relegation for the next 8 years!

  • 98 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    no beattie people liked other posters comments than yours so you spat your dummy out so you quit now read that again and you might see how sad your life really is hahahahahahaha!!

  • 99 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Jesper

    Solidarity lad!

    Did you see the game?

  • 100 Toonarmy77 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Next manager of Newcastle??

    I want names of managers who would work with budget as it is and is free at this moment??

  • 101 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    big toe

    that’s my greatest fear and it’s tragic because we have so many flair touch players who will be totally redundant as they are now to be honest.

  • 102 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    we have 11 players and no team philosophy :/ need a bigger striker alongside cisse. hes great but not consistent enough to be lone striker

  • 103 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Just looked at the table now i feel sick

  • 104 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    ruddy well its just u said since the sunderland game thats all thats why i said it seemed unreasonable it still doesn’t imo count for the whole season which is not all pardews fault which is all i’ve been saying lol

  • 105 croftus5678 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    @99

    di-mateo
    that ex chelsea midfielder
    harry redknapp ^^ (only joke)
    thats probably all that would come and imo do well for us.

  • 106 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Yo yo

    You obviously don’t understand the point I’m trying to make.

    You can’t control the the unpredictability but you can neutralise the negative effects of randomness by creating a positive environment that will effect future outcome.

    If you read posts instead of trying your hardest to flex a your self perceived higher intelligence then you might see that I did not blame Pardew for Cisse miss but I did state that he had a part to play by not creating an environment in which a positive outcome from a random event could be achieved.

    Pardew cannot control the chaos of a ball flying through the air at a random place in time and space and finding its way to Cisse but by coaching the individual he can create a heightened chance of a positive outcome.

    That is something not even up for debate.

  • 107 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    I would go in for poyet

  • 108 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Guj
    I miss demba! :(

    Manx
    No worries mate, tbh I understand why people are turning on pardew, it’s hard watching your team implode every week but I think there’s more to it than “your the manager it’s all your fault” the players have a commitment to the club which imo there not fulfilling so does carver so do the physio’s, medical staff , the board fcuk it even the tea lady!!
    Think the whole club were resting on there laurels abit this season and have had the worst reality check out there, that said I have enjoyed our little euro adventure this season!

  • 109 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    77

    ok there to be shot down but

    Di Matteo, Rikjard, Laurent Blanc are all unattached, all with far superior CVs despite 1 or 2 failures,still light years ahead.

    laudrup is out of reach. solsksjaer may be a goer, possibles are Poyet. Dream time is Riu Garcia. I’m sure there is a host of young thrusting dynamic managers who would love to come here.

    Targetting top 10 with these players is a joke and almost admits last season was a fluke based on many circumstances.

  • 110 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Sadly no! Had to play myself. Did see at half time we seemed to do well, but then Pardew had his teamtalk :-(

  • 111 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Manxpie

    The Sunderland game for me was the straw that broke the camel’s back, I couldn’t in good conscience keep with the “give him more time” approach.

    Yes there are mitigating factors as to why this season has been a disaster, but one of those factors is Pardew himself if we are being totally honest.

    I’m not all for sacking him now, nor would I be overly angry if we kept him on for next season, but if he gets backing in the summer he has until Xmas to sort it out.

  • 112 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Beattie/ yo yo
    Please I’m begging you, it’s hard enough to read on match day but please don’t start using big words! It’ll take me ages to go through the posts if I have to keep checking my first dictionary!

  • 113 King Panth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Top ten? Is that the height of Pardews ambition? Well he has to keep us up first of all. Did Debuchy, Sissoko and Mbiwa join this club to be mediocre? With the quality we have in the squad we have and a few additions, we should be looking at least towards top 6. Its impossible to compete with the Manchester clubs and Chelsea maybe even Arsenal, but why not Liverpool, Spurs and Everton? Them 3 players and others could get into those sides. A decent Manager would be chomping at the bit to work with this group of players. We have seriously under performed and it is so frustrating listening to Pardew talk bullshit after every game, excuse after excuse.

  • 114 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    If Wigan go down (Hope they do) Martinez despite what he said about Mcmanaman. He has got them to a cup final despite a small budget. They also play good football and were unlucky not go get a result at City (where we got turned over). He could also help us tap into the Spanish Market as well.

  • 115 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Manxpie

    Didn’t call you disabled. Stop posting things in the hope that people join your crusade against me.

    If I were you I’d just shut up because you are just talking complete and utter garbage that truth be told nobody cares about.

    Talk about football you moron.

    (Ooooppssss did I just add to that growing list of insults you are highlighting?)

  • 116 Marty-Toon // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Martinez is a decent manager as is Moyes but not sure either would come

  • 117 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Quick question. On paper who has a better team, us or Everton ?

  • 118 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Pardew is already talking about next season like we are safe.
    We had one manager today who saw his set up wasn`t working so changed it.Pardew had no idea how to counter that other than throwing Shola on

  • 119 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    solskjaer would be a terrific signing

  • 120 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    @ Marty

    I’m pretty sure Martinez would rather manage in the PL than the Championship.

  • 121 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Manxpie

    Ruddy is hardly the only who’s changed his opinion. it just means he’s not narrow minded and is not blind to the fact that something is very wrong in the state of Denmark.

    We are 16th with 5 french full internationals. Are you really saying they are playing their natural game?

  • 122 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    I’m going now until Ibiza comes back. He restores balance and order from his neutrality.

  • 123 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    We are so predictable i called the result yesterday saying if we go a goal up it will be 1-1 and we in the end were lucky to get that after the second half showing

  • 124 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    BPC depressingly we do

    the players we have our so good and stifled by a manager who has been found out this year

  • 125 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Have to disagree that Martinez has done it on a small budget, look at his time at Wigan think you’d be surprised at how much he’s spent, he doesn’t seem to like the European players either,
    Would like moyes but can’t see it

    Manx/Ruddy
    I think the only way I’d be genuinely happy to see pardew here next season is if there’s a complete coaching staff overhaul during the summer and an assistant manager bought in from a top club who’s looking to make a real name for himself

  • 126 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Beattie

    Manxpie is far from being the worst poster on this blog.
    Don’t compete with Catchy too often – the arrogance is beginning to take you over completely. There is sometthing very very wrong about boasting about being arrogant as if that tiny bit of self awareness makes you superior. Please don’t let it get away from you – or you will become delusional..

    Let’s wait til after Monday before the gloom sets in – if Wigan can pull anything out of that game then maybe they will deserve to avoid the drop. Once they’ve got rid of the game in hand we’ll know exactly when we’ll be safe.

    Anyone still recommending Martinez as a good solid replacement for Pardew ?

  • 127 King Panth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    BGC on paper i would say us, on grass i would say Everton. Another question… How many Premiership teams would Shola get a game for?

  • 128 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    old ashley must be raging inside with pardew saying top 10.

  • 129 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Oops misread my fixture list there :( – still need to wait to find out our smallest target

  • 130 Toonarmy77 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Food for thought gents, not sure i agree with all suggestions but not bad shouts

    Have a good evening all!!

  • 131 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    tads i agree but it’s obviously criminal to enjoy watching us so how cud you :)

    ruddy i also agree and remember this right now IS pardews team he just hasn’t had a chance to play it
    with a good pre-season and better luck on injuries he’ll be able to play HIS team consistently
    how can you judge him properly after all he’s had to deal with this season which is my point if where still shocking come christmas then yes there needs to be a change but condeming this season just to him is wholely unfair imo

  • 132 Guj NUFC // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Martinez has a good style of play, I like him as a person too, but I don’t think he is what this club needs rights now. We need a strong leader and level headed guy with good tactics, strong work ethic and can get the best out of our team! Mr Mourinho? :D :(

  • 133 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Toonarmy77
    Who would you like to see here?

  • 134 solano // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    King Panth @ 112….Top Ten is an ambition if you buy into the philosophy that remoulded NUFC into a small minded feeder club. Sissokho and Debuchy (if they prove to be more than a flash in the pan) will become disillusioned and move on – much as I suspect Cabaye will this summer.
    Club is in Top Twenty Richlist, but struggle to stay in top league of twenty in this country. No manager worth his salt would have let the club enter this season’s competitions lacking in such depth and the reactive buying at the end of January would have hurt the MD and his boss, as much as it gave Pardew one last chance at making a fist of it. Unfortunately, Patsy has failed miserably in stopping the rot.

  • 135 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    yo yo

    Pardew has taken teams down and nearly down more than Martinez and has had way more money and resources. One good season doesn’t obscure our manager’s overall career winning percentage of under 36%.

    Beattie is extremely entertaining and has more of a go at himself than anyone but some on here have a total sense of humour bypass.

  • 136 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Manxpie. Deluded.

  • 137 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    When Cisse misses and we only have Shola as a barely recognisable striker who else can AP put on to change things ?

    We are seriously suffering for not replacing Ba and we all knew it might come back to slap us in the face – and it has.

  • 138 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    IIIMMMMMM BBBAACCCCKKKK lol

    its been fun being away from the boards yet the trends still remain, the blind propards brigade still just dismissing everything spouting “facts” to back their claims, and the doom and gloomers that must be thrieving in this relegation battle…… one thing i carnt believe is Ibiza ..dude you still playing that neutrallity card, tsk tsk lol

  • 139 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    @ tads

    Wigan have not spent more than 10 million in January and summer transfers since 2007. Considering we dropped the best part of 10 million on Cisse as well as M’biwa I reckon they have spent very little By Premier League standards. They got Kone for just over 2 million. Great piece of business. Not to mention they play good football

  • 140 Guj NUFC // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I, too, Solano, fear that Yohan will move on this summer. Can we buy all of his LOSC Lille team mates from their title winning season?

  • 141 BDin9 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Anyone thinking that Pardew is looking for a way out with his top ten comment for next season ?

  • 142 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Rotonda

    What is Martinez’s highest finishing position, and what is his average finishing position ?

    I dunno, haven’t checkd – but it might just be he would be a major down grade.

  • 143 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    manx

    when we got 6 new players in january we still had half a season left nearly

  • 144 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    BD pards says 16th is good enough for this season, that beating the scum is our goal for next season…blah blah blah seriously we are starting to sound like the party with marty bunch (at least they had sense to get rid of their lame duck)

  • 145 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    Jupp Heynckes anyone ? . If we could get him that is.

  • 146 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    yo yo

    don’t know offhand I’m afraid.

  • 147 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    I bet dirty arry would get us playing good football again

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Manxpie

    I just think even when he’s had a decent XI to play he’s not got the best from them. We had a superior team than WBA out today and I know they were the home side with their own tactics and manager, I just felt that, not for the first time this season, inferior teams have dominated us and that’s down to tactics in my view.

    I’m willing to let him be backed in the summer and see how he does, but unless there is serious improvement by Xmas I’d be screaming for him to be replaced.

  • 149 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Guj

    we need their manager too!!

  • 150 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    i bet durty arry would get us relegated with loads of debt lol

    AVB is doing better with spurs than him, that was the manager we should and could have gotten after the chelsea farse

  • 151 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    @ eaststand

    I like Redknapps playing style but hate everything else about the man :) .

  • 152 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    yo-yo
    What about Goffy is he not a striker.How many times has Shola made a difference coming on as sub.Why couldn`t Pards try Cisse and Goffy first in a 442 before going to hoofball Shola

  • 153 BDin9 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Benitez…why not?

  • 154 BandB // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Though I’d stick me head up because I’ve been quite down all week.
    Maybe we can cut ourselves some slack for a few days? We ARE a point nearer safety. QPR and Reading aren’t coming past us. ‘Arry’s right in the clarts. And Wigan lost too. Wish I was looking forward to MOTD to re-live a brilliant performance. But you can’t have everything, I suppose.

  • 155 solano // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Guj…no we can’t. A policy of “join us and be in the shop window for a bigger move in 2 years” doesn’t wash if you are seen as perennial strugglers. 4 out of 6 seasons under Ashley and co. has seen us struggle in the top division. Out of the other two, one was spent in the Championship (after 16 top flight years) and one seen us achieve a remarkable and unlikely top 6 finish which was looked upon by those in charge as a burden, rather than an opportunity!
    Ambition, anyone?

  • 156 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    BPC

    aye hes a candle faced cnut like haha good manager tho

  • 157 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    solano ambition requires investment…. money then more money…..with the potential of some returns. That is not how Ashley opperates, he likes a flutter but the amount required to make real progress is astronomical.

  • 158 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    daztoon

    Gouffy isn’t a Ba replacement imo but a no3 striker. Agree a 4-4-2 might have been worth a try – also some guys suggested playing Cabs in the hole and Sissoko as CM.
    I don’t think this 4231 is for us long term unless we have much more quality behind Cisse to deliver him some bullets to fire. Mata would do fine.

  • 159 marcotoon // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Despite the fact that other results went against us I still think that it’s a point gained. West brom are very strong at home and have been doing well this season. Yes we are still not safe but there are still teams who would rather be in our position than their own. One more win should do it and the sooner that comes the better. I was actually more gutted today about the unwashed’s win over Everton who have been class this season. With regards to Pardew it isn’t always his fault and I do think that he cares about the club though sometimes his tactcs are woeful. A further point that I wish to make is that in the 03/04 season Everton finished 17th, so maybe there is long term rewards with sticking with a manager who [ at that time] had no pedigree.
    KTF

  • 160 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Benitez always plays a 4231 so he’d not be any better formation wise

  • 161 thai-mag // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    not sure who he was but did anyone else see the fat man ashley on the touch line with pardew after west brom scored, but I know that white shirt anywhere

  • 162 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Managers I would take a pop at

    Jupp Heynckes
    Gus Poyet
    Martinez
    Lauddrup
    Benitez

  • 163 Jail for Ashley // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Please,please stop talking about a new manager,Pardew was brought in to do the job he was told to,spout bullshit to the masses and keep us in the premiership one he is doing remarkably well the other he is struggling with.

  • 164 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    BandB / Marco

    Our run in is probably the hardest mind – and unless the teams below us share a good few draws it looks pretty tight but if we beat the bindippers… we’re going to be okay. Hope the sloppy Fools not the sharp Fools turn up next week.

    If Villa lose Monday then I’ll breath a sigh of relief. If they win 8-0 then I’ll need to change my underpants

  • 165 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    @yo-yo
    What ive seen of Goffy he has played as a striker more than a winger before we got him.He defiantly offers more than Shola ever does.

  • 166 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Wigan have spurs next week

  • 167 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    marcotoon

    moyes hadn’t previously relegated one team and very nearly another and now we are 16th too!!

  • 168 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    BPC

    I’d take a pop at all of them too – except Poyet – I think he’d do a good job as first team coach so I might even employ him :)

  • 169 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    we’re safe because of wigan but 16/17 is disgraceful.

  • 170 irishtoon999 // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Solskjaer is un proven, we need some one that has experience in managing on a budget and knows the kind and size of a squad is required for the league and cups.. And someone that has won something!! Id go for rafa

  • 171 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Rotonda

    Agreed – my debate with Ibiza in August about finishing lower than sixth being a failure looks kind of stupid now

  • 172 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    daz toon

    the look on goofy’s face when he came off spoke volumes

  • 173 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    marcotoon
    your right, i think 90% of people on here would have taken a draw before the ball was kicked….it is however the manner in which we played that p*sses most people off.

    Again the scum winning …well theyre safe now and have had a shocking season. They are currently running on new manager syndrom (i hope) and will be ”found out” next season. So far they played a poor chelsea side and lost, a newcastle team and tactics that a league one team would have burried, and an everton team clearly having a bad day at the office. Thier attacking pressing football will wear them thin and they will start to be sussed out resulting in getting caught on the break and losing games by 3-4 goals. They have not got the quality to play like that over a season, niether have we (manu and arsenal games come to mind)

  • 174 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    daz

    I think he’s better than Strolla too. I’d rather him in your 4-4-2 idea

  • 175 Toon Tang // Apr 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    highlight of the game was having a good chuckle to myself at billy jones’ girly hair band thing. hes continually worn it for years but has never had long hair. worth the entrance fee alone that hair stopper

  • 176 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Zero

    New broom syndrome at the Stadium of Shite – Di Canio can’t keep this up over a season without major reshaping of their side.

  • 177 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    If I was Gouffran I would be pi**ed of getting subbed for Shola as well. The guy isn’t fit to lace his boots and is our second most likely scorer after Cisse
    (maybe Cabaye) on the pitch. Its not as if Gouffran was tired FFS.

  • 178 boater // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Daztoon – 1) Goofy is basically up top with Cisse, in fact he is often further ahead of him, ref: the goal today. 2) His game is better suited to the wing due to his size and pace.

    Switching him to play up top in a 4-4-2 is not the epic game changing tactic you seem to think. You would hardly notice the difference in fact, let alone it would swing the game.

  • 179 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    peaco nice input do u want to back that up or are you the type i’m actually complaining about!!!?

    ruddy i understand that but i firmly think that consistency is THEE major part of a team and you could say west brom had the advantage on that but i understand when you look at who’s playing you’d think yeah we’ve got the beating of them
    but i think you’ve got to say we’ve again got a whole new defence i.e debuchy starting only his 2nd game this month (i thought he was brilliant btw) also hiadara 1st start n mbwia who ok has played alot since he came but how many times do you here “new players take time to settle” especially new to the country there’s alot of factors just in the defence that could go horribly wrong and i forgot the keeper change!
    now if i went into midfield ……………………………?

  • 180 Rotonda heights // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    zero

    avb would have been an inspired choice

  • 181 solano // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Rotonda@ 168…here! here! Does the buck stop at the manager, though? Go the full hog and admit that the plan so many bought into, just doesn’t work because it is restrictive and reactive. That is why no manager with any real previous accomplishments under his belt would work with the gruesome twosome.

  • 182 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    It might put a smile on my face seeing that Gypsy Bum Tyson Fury get knocked out tonight. Can’t stand the guy :)

  • 183 BandB // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    Yo-yo,

    It has been a rough old week. We’re still in a battle. But tonight, I’m going to ignore the whizz-bangs, have my Woodbine and thank the lord we’re not dead yet.

  • 184 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    Manxpie. Glad you appreciated it.

  • 185 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Zero, I thought we were going to win to be honest. Posted that a couple of times.

    I think we will get nowt from Liverpool so it just prolongs the agony.

    We should stay up but it’ going to be nervy.

    QPR and Reading are as good as gone. I still think the third relegation is up for grabs with Wigan looking good for it, despite their track record of going on a run at the end of the season.

    I hope we will get our 3 points at QPR and maybe a point at West Ham. We’ll get nowt from Liverpool or Arsenal.

  • 186 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    I could back it up, but what’s the point in wasting my time; it’s not as if anything I say would cut any ice is it?

  • 187 boater // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    I hate to interrupt the Gouffran love-in in full swing, but the fact that he is an almost completely anonymous non-presence for large swathes of the match might have something to do with it.

    Pardew brings Shola on to go ‘direct’. It’s not pretty but it worked against Fulham and it worked against Benfica. It didn’t get going today but the game was already going away from us, besides unless you are psychic mutant pre-cogs you weren’t to know that.

  • 188 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Manx

    It is those factors that would convince me to give him the first 4 months of the season to sort it out.

    If he doesn’t then he cannot hide behind these excuses, which he seems to be doing this entire season and I am getting sick of it.

  • 189 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    also ruddy i apologize for maybe being more argumenative than i should have been and coming across the wrong way it just annoys me people saying pardew out without any substance or oppinion which has gone on all week

  • 190 BDin9 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    YoYo he knows how to win though. Proven record and out of a job at the end of the season

  • 191 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    @Rotonda heights
    yeah lad did nothing wrong but is Sacrificed for Shola who rarely does anything.Why not take jonas off its the same tactical sub that never works
    @boater
    Odd times maybe but havn`t seen that myself hes helping track more than not most of the time.Wasn`t saying 442 was a game changing tactic but like we saw today Shola offers nothing alongside Cisse in Pardew`s plan B

  • 192 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Manx

    No apologies needed man, emotions run high among us NUFC fans so it’s to be expected.

    I’ve got, what I feel, as reasons to want to see him upgraded upon, but he could still turn it around if he gets a decent run with his best squad and backing in the transfer market but if he doesn’t turn it around he needs to go.

  • 193 irishtoon999 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Shola is bad at the best of times but iv noticed the guy has bulked up/got heavier lately.. He can hardly move, offers us nothing..

  • 194 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    well at least have a go peaco i mean u must have an oppinion man or are you just an illiterate sheep?

    and ruddy yeah he deserves that at least and ofcourse the backing of the owner in the SUMMER!

  • 195 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    I just did that BBC predictor again.

    I just do not see Wigan, Villa or Stoke getting above 38 points and certainly not all 3 of them.

    I also can not see Newcastle picking up 0 points from 4 games.

    Though I have to say this is becoming an unhealthy obsession.

  • 196 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Pardew “The substitutions made an impact though we couldn`t forge a chance second half and the pitch didn`t help”
    So the subs made what kind of impact?

  • 197 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    @manxpie

    i believe pardew should be out at the end of the season for the following reasons.

    last season we won but we won ugly, there were times after the games where i was simply confused at to how we had won and felt a little like we didnt deserve it.

    this season, he took a winning formula of the 433 and messed with it ….why…to please ONE yes thats right ONE player. Note this player was never going to stay at our club since we wouldnt break our wage cap. This event then took an in-form striker and destroyed his moral and form by putting him behind another player in the ranks and putting him out of position.

    Pardew has repeatedly made shocking team selections (even when most of the team are available).

    Poor tactics since before January (desperate to hang onto wins) usually resulting in us going level, que poor subs then behind.

    His insistance to play his favourites over players scouted by Carr to do a better job, regardless of them showing their promise on the pitch (Marv and Goffy spring to mind).

    His constant whinging on after matchs.

    His lack of respect for the fans and their voice

    His belief that apparently has rubbed off on fans that we only have ONE striker now i.e. cisse….erm im sure than given half a chance both goffy and campbell would be smashing them in if given the central role.

    And i blame him yes him for both Shola and Jonas getting a game!

    I dont blame him for the lack of investment in the summer leading to the sh*t storm with injuries with lack of cover ….. all i can say is well done Ashley, look stupid much now hmmmmm.

    Also, i blame Pards for training defensive 4 days a week and still having a team that leaks goals, if we couldnt score but kept clean sheets then sure great, a reverse of the entertainers but hell we’d be picking up a dam sight more points than we are now…

  • 198 Ben3arfa // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    IF MIKE ASHLEY APPOINTS DAVID MOYES AS MANAGER IN THE SUMMER I WILL PERSONALLY LOOK FOR HIM AND SHAKE HIS HAND .

    Doubt that will happen though

  • 199 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    I am surprised there is any debate actually.

    Pardew is pretty mediocre at best. The club’s stature (in terms of fan base and turnover) dictates a higher expectation in terms of manager.

    Pards was never really a terrible manager but never a really good one either.

    This is the sort of guy you recruit if perhaps you need someone to take you up to the EPL or if you are the likes of Stoke or West Brom and can attract a mediocre manager and hope he keeps you up.

    He never the sort of guy on an upward trajectory in terms of career, gaining experience etc on the way.

    I think we need to stick with him until the end of the season and see if we can get something better if we stay up.

    But a lot of thought has to go into the next guy.

  • 200 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Let the idiot finish the season then get shot.
    If its not the opposition won`t allow us to get quality crosses in,its the ref or the pitch,injuries or that he thought the efforts of midweek was a good excuse to lose at home to the Scum 0-3.The man would blame a flat tyre on the coach if he could.

  • 201 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    @Manx Baaaaaaa.

    “…this right now IS pardews team he just hasn’t had a chance to play it with a good pre-season and better luck on injuries he’ll be able to play HIS team consistently…”

    Sorry, but I just cannot agree with this sentiment. Injuries are a fact of life and all teams have to deal with them and get the best out of what’s left. Some can do this successfully, other’s can’t.

    In my opinion, I’d respectfully suggest that the real problem is that the team simply isn’t working. We’ve got some excellent players (or they were), who typically(in the majority of games that I’ve seen this season) seem to lack direction. There appears to be an inability to pass and MOVE, set pieces are woeful, we seem unable to deal with an opposition’s change of tactics and for most of the season it appears that game plan is to rely on a piece of individual brilliance to score, and then try to defend. If:
    Setting direction and common purpose for a team; analysing an opposition’s weakness and developing a strategy to overcome them and; working on set piece routines isn’t in the remit of the manager then I doth my hat to you. The fact is; they are, and if these issues aren’t recognised now, I don’t expect them to be in a further seven years either, by which time the inevitable will have likely happened. IF we are still in the top flight next season, then something has to give or we’ll all be very miserable this time next year.

  • 202 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Ben3arfa, I would be very surprised if Moyes were appointed.

    Ashley does seemingly learn – he is not as stupid as he looks – he will likely see what Carr has achieved in terms of scouting decent players at a reasonable cost and wonder how to get the best out of them.

    I think Pards is running out of excuses with respect to Ashley.

    He may give him until Christmas assuming we stay up but if we are not in top 10, he will be out.

  • 203 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Lets get arry i know hes a cnut but hes a class manager and gets the best out of his players and he keeps up the cockney theme

  • 204 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    @201 – you are right, you do not hear DiCanio complain.

    He’s come in, 3 very tough games on paper and put 6 points on the board.

    We should not feel animosity toward Pardew, he means well. He’s just not up to the task.

  • 205 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    no, I don’t want Harry. He made wrong choices at QPR.

    I want someone a lot more astute and one that can fit into a new Newcastle United, one that has not got a big gob and hitting the headlines for the wrong reason.

  • 206 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Its not down to us so fck knows who we will get in if ashley decides to get shot

  • 207 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    aye, but my point was Ashley seems to continually improve and learn.

    I think he will replace Pards sooner or later and I am optimistic that he will have got the right people helping get the best possible appointment.

  • 208 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Lets hope so hes not picked a really good manager since he came

  • 209 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    A manager who can made tuff choices and drop players for the sake of the team.Not make the team suffer for the sake of a player.

  • 210 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    to change the subject

    whats everyones oppinion on the refereeing this season i personally think its been shocking! not just our games but all round and also i’ve always wondered what they know while there in there room at half time?
    do they see replays of the big decisions?
    and also the FA turning away augero’s n mcmanamananans challenges shows the refs have got far to much protection
    also the augrero 1 comes across to me as the FA trying to keep the premier league alive!
    the most blatent “violent conduct” you’ll see but still no action!!

  • 211 solano // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    p @ 207 “Ashley seems to continually improve and learn”??
    Wow! What a learning curve it is proving to be! It’s more like a cardiac arrest patient’s chart!
    “6 more years” I hear you chant, before realising we have been converted into the new Sunderland!

  • 212 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Manxpie – as I said. Waste of my time.

  • 213 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Thing is the way we go about our business apart from the top managers like Jose and Guardiola most managers would want to work with us

    We have a big fanbase, great players and great scouting network which can source players and if a manager knew what the situation was with regards to transfers how could they turn it down?

    So many of the big foreign clubs managers dont get involved with transfers its all done with directors of football and chief coaches who buy the players its just in the in the UK we think that managers should do everything

    I think Moyes would see us as a great opportunity in the summer as we will spend more than Everton would be a perfect match as he is not going to get a top 4 job but if he does well for us we could become a top 4 challenging team

  • 214 solano // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    p @ 207 “I am optimistic that he will have got the right people helping get the best possible appointment.”
    Derek Llambias, maybe?

  • 215 danny bobson // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Wigan Qpr reading bye bye. Pardew sacked.. Martinez or old harry boy to take over the toon next year

  • 216 jimmysmith // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Ashley has made mistakes but rarely made them twice.

    He may eventually become a model owner and that would suggest Pards has to develop along with him or he will be out.

    It’s been a difficult and frustrating year, but again this is a regime that does seem to emerge the better from adversity.

  • 217 YorkshiresFinestGeordie // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Hopefully they will get graham Carr to scout for our next manager.

    The worrying thing is though that before Padrew was appointed we offered Martin Jol a per match contract or something like that and since we had SBR in charge we haven’t had great managers except KK and all couldn’t have been on big wages. This could mean that MA will do it again. I hope he sacks the boring git but I won’t be expecting blanc or di matteo. Maybe a young foreign manager who likes to play attractive football like Zola, poyet or even guardiola in my dreams.

  • 218 jayphoto // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    Think fans are right to question the manager today! West brom are a good side but we had them on the ropes in the first half, whatever was said at halftime sent the team out negatively! Its true we’ve had injuries but since january weve had a very strong squad available! The problem is managerial decisions – jonas seems untouchable despite being woeful all season, pardew often plays him out of position to accomodate him in the side! Sissoko is no attacking midfielder! Hed be far for effective in the middle of the park! Shola on and hoof is a plan B that never prospers and for a big man shola isnt great in the air…..

  • 219 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    manxpie…. refs are shocking im over in the states now and have started watching a lot of basketball due to it being on everynight in bars, they have video refs for the last to minutes of the round, with random time outs….even these dont really slow or dull the excitement of thte game…ffs tennis even has hawk eye, for goals/offsides and major challenges then video ref should be called on, for instance manu players surround the ref and waste more time then itd take for the video to be consulted.

    but change the subject nahhh i wnat your opinions on pards..you seem to just brandish ‘factoids’ based on snipets of opinion

    What do you think of pards team selection, tactics, and subs.

    How do you feel about his after game comments and his aims for the club.

    How would you rate him as a manager, give the squad hes got who would you put him near in terms of ability.

  • 220 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    So who would be the perfect man for the job

  • 221 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Calling for Pardews head since the terrible partnership of cisse and ba that he was happy to persist with.

    I was amongst a select few fans who doubted his tactical and clueless decisions.

    Fans thought i was crazy and said i was just being negative and told me i was wrong everytime i put my opinion across.

    Now i gurantee those people are with my opinion and the ones that arent are as clueless and stubborn as Pardew himself.

    Ashley….. GET PARDEW OUT!

  • 222 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    What about Zola doing a great job at watford

  • 223 El Sleeve // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Hey Beattie, Ive been saying since the start of our bad run in October (Stoke, West Ham, Swansea and Soton) that Pardew isn’t up to it.

    I’ve been repeating the same tune for 6 months now. Obviously you’ve never ever read any of my posts.

    Most fans, the ones who want to see NUFC do well, see now that this cannot be achieved with Pards in charge.

    Players out of position, teachin the offside rule to cisse, defending 1 goal leads, ameobi coming on at 60 mins, the excuses, he has to go, especially after his comments about us finishing 16th is ok and how the criticism after last week was harsh.

    We’ve been terrible all season. Terrible. Injuries yes (can start asking why we have injuries, as in who trains the players and keeps them fit? supposedly pards and coaching staff). As a true fan, this is just not acceptable and we will lose our best players if we keep pardew.

    Manx – we have great players, they are being used wrong and jonas inexplicably keeps his place, always. that is down to pards. its all down to pards.

    i miss winning 2-0

  • 224 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    cockneymagpie90

    i was calling for his head early in the season when he said after a match … well if i had my whole team available we could have won (only one player was missing from our strongest starting XI)

    really hes messed up big time, something he has shown he isnt learning from, with continous mistakes being repeated. This has of course been compounded by injuries and such but seriously… how people can still go blindly into it and say hes a good manager is beyond me.

  • 225 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    well peaco and zero alot of negatives there but remember that was our 2nd season in the prem with a brand new team and they outplayed themselves in many ways they deserved a good influx of upgrades in the summer which didn’t happen thats got to have hurt and i honestly think the hangover from that (ikncluding pardew) was a major factor they responded in january but again we’ve still had the injuries and trying to intergrate new players has got to be hard i don’t care who you are can u imagine any better manager coping better with all the circumstances!

  • 226 El Sleeve // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Zola, Poyet, Blanc and Moyes all need interviewing for the job

  • 227 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Beattie @ 106

    Still toss

  • 228 jimmysmith // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Zola is appealing in many ways, particularly with this group of players, but inexperienced for “the hardest job in football”.

    Let’s face it, succeeding for anyone would be a tall order, if history is any sort of a guide.

  • 229 solano // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    jimmysmith…some model owner we may have! Defamed and humiliated 2 Club Legends, changed stadium name after 119 years of history and overseen 4 survival struggles in 6 years. Shameful!
    If it becomes 2 successful relegations in 4 years, there is only one person ultimately responsible! Open your eyes, you muppet!

  • 230 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Beattie

    KISS otherwise you’re just tying yourself in knots

  • 231 BDin9 // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Happy now to finish 16th.ffs

  • 232 jimmysmith // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Yeah, I didn’t actually claim any of that, Sol.

  • 233 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Pardew has had enough players available since the Jan influx to get results and he hasn`t delivered.We are under the cosh today what does dickhead do takes off a left back and puts a midfielder there.People talk about not having a settled defence how can we when monkey nuts keeps sticking a midfielder in there

  • 234 Zero // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    @224
    I dont disagree with the fact we needed upgrades in the summer, i knew after the transfer window we were going to have a rough ride, after the first euro game this became all too apparent, but pards has had since january with what we all would have been happy with in the summer.

    He isnt getting the best out of players, yes time to settle but whats the excuse for what he did to Cisse at the start of the season, or infact why so down the line our players still arnt performing.

    i wonder if he has lost the dressing room and that is the reason he keeps playing his favourites to let them know ‘whose boss’

    also you dodged the questions i posed at you …again.. your a little bit like a troll but you dont spout negatives just positives.

    Your certainly an interesting addition since i left, is Kets still around?

  • 235 jimmysmith // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    I think he’s reforming the club and made, yes, shocking errors, but seems to be learning from his mistakes.

    Although, I do also agree if we go down it will be ultimately down to his overly lean approach to running the finances. His fault.

  • 236 calvinho // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    Today reminded me of the Aston Villa game. Dominating 1st half, but sat too deep and seemed content to ride it out in the 2nd half. The only difference was that we scored 2 against villa when we were on top.

    I think that a change of manager is needed, but i don’t think it will happen. I can’t understand his persistence with Gutierez. I can only assume he wants experience on the pitch. I can see what he’s trying to do with Cabaye: playing him as a quarter-back style. Hoping he’ll have more time on the ball when collecting from the centre halves. However, as seen today, the opposition just push further forward and stop him getting on it. This causes us to lump it forward. This then leads to Shola coming on. Its plain to see.

    Also, those saying how great Gouffran is; how great he is playing etc. He’s ok. He’s a squad player at best. He’s not a first teamer.

  • 237 BDin9 // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Every interview is a different target.Top 10,ELP,Survival, enough

  • 238 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    zero

    Main issue is lack of strike power since we failed to replace Ba and shortage of options througn cisse with the 4231.
    Otherwise playing side looking okay if not as purple as they reckon

  • 239 El Sleeve // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    my goodness, i think its happened, people are finally sick of pardew.

    taxi!

    i know he probably wouldn’t even consider us but what about Gary Neville?

  • 240 elpaso_geordie // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Martin Jol please……..

    any manager that will actually play some football and will make me look forward to watching a FOOTball match at St James again

  • 241 Marty-Toon // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Malaga have several players with their contracts going out this summer.
    Worth a go?
    They play in a much more technical league so may be someone worth trying.

  • 242 yo-yo // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Zero .. yes Kets is still around. Still banging on about signing the same players who don’t want to come here anyway.
    He has made some pretty decent posts recently too – apart from his obsessions.

  • 243 Marty-Toon // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    El sleeve
    Neville would probably be a good call,although untested as a manager he knows his football and knows good training techniques after playing under Fergie for so many years
    He’s a very good pundit on the tv showing his insights into tactics and team set up

  • 244 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    @jimmysmith

    Mike ashley has appointed this muppet and changed the stadium name.

    Those are his faults.

    Its pardews fault we are where we are and the only way we can move forward is if hes gone.

    Ashleys decision….

  • 245 NobbyNolano // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    It’s all getting beyond a joke now, that Cisse chance was a sitter.

    http://www.theyoungernolan.blogspot.com

  • 246 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    zero the fact u say u disagree withy wanting upgrades in the summer says alot so in other words we were fine even with injuries to u??
    well thats bonkers man

  • 247 Marty-Toon // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Neville probably wouldn’t sniff at us but not a bad job to start your managerial career.
    Big crowds,some quality players and good facilities with top scouts

  • 248 El Sleeve // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Gary Neville would not tolerate that second half or this season. Young. Could be the next big English manager. Altho it wouldnt surprise me if he ends up as Man Utd manager in 5 years time

  • 249 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    @yo-yo
    Looks pretty simple the system 4231 doesn’t really work for us and when the opposition manager changes his tactics we are left wanting and hanging on for a point.
    We had West Brom by the throat today but again didn`t go for the kill and settled on defending a 1 goal lead

  • 250 bringvidukaback // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    no idea if anyone noticed, but have u seen our defensive displays today?? appalling to say the least.

    when wba switched to a 433, it clearly shows their intentions of hoofing the ball up to lukaku and fortune for them to knock down long. not much intention of playing thru the middle or the flanks.

    our midfield was sitting so deep u couldnt catch more than 2 in their half when foster had the ball. our defense was sitting so high that any long ball was a danger, if yanga or taylor didnt deal with it well…
    when we got the ball back everyone was so close together in no visible shape that the only option was to go long to cisse, who isnt benteke, carroll, lukaku, or holt in the air. but it rarely got there too, because he was so isolated the ball was easily cut out by 2 or 3 of the other team near him.
    and the idea to bring on shola for goofy… if someone mobile like cisse couldnt even get 50% of all balls out, wad makes pards think that ameobi would do any better? would rather even campbell on, at least he could try to run at the defenders from the halfway line.
    and putting jonas at lb, and taking out our natural lb.. experience is important, but i think haidara had more of it at lb den jonas.
    when they switched to 433, a good option would be to put anita on for jonas, and ben arfa for sissoko. making the shape like this
    —————-elliot———–
    deb—-saylor—yanga–haidara
    ——–perch—–anita———–
    ———hba—cabaye————
    ————–cisse—————–

    this would settle the problem of having a disjointed team.
    no doubt we would look rather exposed at the flanks, but anita and perch have played fb as well and could double up as 2 extra fb while cabs could play in front of the defense when defending the flanks. also, we wouldnt have to hoof the ball so much as we would have the option of having ben arfa and cisse hit them on a counter and have hba try running at some men while cabs, anita and cisse provide possible outlets for him when needed.

    i rmb looking up after replying a text and tot a fight had broken out in the middle of the pitch, as i saw almost 20 men in the middle third of the pitch. turned out just to be a goal kick from elliot. where do our players find any type of space i wonder.

    Havent critised pards before but seriously, surely, remotely, possibly he can see all these things??

    if wigan goes down, ashley, please get martinez in for pards!!!

    though martinez has history with us over callum’s tackle, the man was just backing a youngster in his squad, supporting his charges when they needed him, not sure if i can say the same for pards..

  • 251 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    How can you aim for 10th with these players.

    Krul – linked with AC for £12m
    Debuchy – one of the best RBs at Euro’s
    Santon – linked with AC & Anzhi for £12m +
    Mbiwa – £7m top rated french international
    Tiote – been linked with chelsea, spurs in past.
    Cabaye – linked with Man Utd and Barca for £20m
    Sissoko – linked with tops teams for £15m a year ago
    Ben Arfa – one of the most talented players in league
    Cisse – proven goalscorer when in short passing team

    That’s 9 top class players. 10 if he gets Colo interested. How many do WBA have? how many do Fulham have? How many do everton have?

    Get rid of shola, willo, perch, obertan & jonas and bring in some hungry young english players to sit on the bench and one or two more top attacking players

  • 252 bringvidukaback // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    we arent aiming for top ten… we are barely staying afloat!!!

  • 253 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    zero to be honest i’ve never seen you on ere in i’ve been on for three years so it shows you wat contribution u’ve made that i’ve never took notice of ya has anyone else seen him before?? just out of curiosity like??

  • 254 jimmysmith // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Well I accept Pardew’s performance is part of the problem, beyond that I’m not so sure, although a lot of you blokes would seem to be convinced sacking him is gonna be a giant leap forward.

    Personally, I think sacking a manager more often than not just papers over the cracks or makes things worse.

  • 255 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    @bringvidukaback
    you playing with 10 there mate

  • 256 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Just watching the Stoke game they are dire

    Hoping QPR are as crap when we play them but funnily think Remy will cause us problems unless he is injured !!

    Hoping Carroll and Nolan have an off game do us a wee favour when we play them!!

    West Brom were quite direct with us in the 2nd half long balls like anything thats the thing we play longballs but they are not as effective as West Brom who have players getting the knock downs

  • 257 dmac // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    I am worried about us and our predicament. I just want this season over but i worry as to where me may be.

  • 258 bringvidukaback // Apr 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    @daztoon
    forgot to add goofy into my lineup.. my bad…
    @ manxpie
    haha.. havent posted before, but have been on here for 2+ years now… after that performance, needed to rant…
    not saying that pards is the only problem, but he definitely can do a better job …

  • 259 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Guti is a CM playing on the wing or LB

    Cabaye is a CM/CAM playing as CDM.

    Sissoko is a CDM/CM playing as CAM.

    Gouffran is a ST/LW/RW playing deep on the right or left in the midfield.

    He starts the likes of Guti, Tiote and Santon at LB (Santon is a WINGER!).

    Leaves om the bench or takes off Anita, Marvo, Haidara, Perch and Benarfa.

    Since the new players hes had a few chances to play something like this…

    Debuchy-colo-mbiwa-haidara
    ————anita—-perch————
    —-benarfa–cabaye–santon—-
    ——————–cisse——————

    With the likes of simmo, taylor, tiote, sissoko, guti, marvo, gouffran and campbell to fill in the gaps if players have been injured.

    How can u have excuses when this squad is availble to u?

    Baffles me…

  • 260 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    bringvidukaback jesus i was lukin at your name and thinkin u were russian lol only just got it
    i werent talkin to you man i was talkin to zero i don’t mind a rant at all rant away like but at least have a good reason to

  • 261 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Manx – how has he coped well with it? The loss of some players to injury should not prevent the rest of the team from being able to pass and move. The guy has an excuse for everything, when he took over it wasn’t his team and we were told to judge him on his signings. Now it’s a whole new team taking time to bed down. He can’t have it both ways. Your argument and Pardews continuous contradictory excuses no loner wash.

  • 262 Munster Mag // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Maybe its the alcohol, but I reckon we are going to go down. I mean, can you for one second imagine Pardew having the nous or balls to set us up for one win when we need it? My fear is that Wigan, who battered West ham at times, will take off, and we …..er…wont, when we need to. There is no logic to suggest that we can get any points off Liverpool or Arsenal because I think the team will seize up through nerves.

  • 263 p // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    santon, was saying that eatlier, I think we will pick up our points at West Ham and QPR.

    Doubt we will get owt from Liverpool or Arsenal.

    Hoping we get points in London is a big ask.

    Fortunately, I don’t we will even need more than 1 point because of the teams around us.

    Can see Remy sending us down though, wouldn’t that be typical.

  • 264 soundoid // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Football isn’t played on paper but for what it’s worth, my team,

    Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Haidara
    Marv Sissoko Cabaye Goofran
    Benny
    Cisse

  • 265 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Munster

    Cannot see Wigan getting the 3 wins they need to effectively relegate us.

    We’re capable of a few draws that we need so I don’t share your pessimism but things do need to change.

  • 266 papscrunt // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    I’m personally really worried. We have no identifiable style of play at all. Even Wigan, Villa, Soton, Makems, Norwich, you can see what they try to do. We just seem to be ‘Chuck them on the pitch and see what happens’ We have some very good players too. Some out of form, some out of position, all of them totally not sure what their job is on the pitch.

  • 267 Munster Mag // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Also, can the muppets who have told us all season long ( well from Christmas anyway ) that Pardew deserves our support and is a worthy manager ….PLEASE NOW |STAND UP AND ADMIT THAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND FOOTBALL ???? Ibiza, you might as well do the decent thing and be the first…please note that this is written by an ex pardew fan. Only the stupid, blind or insane can now really argue Pardew case as he whinges about injuries whilst presiding over a disastrously under coached team who lack belief, leaders, structure, confidence, ambition. Pardew got lucky last year on the back of 2 strikers, and got the NUFC job uncontested. Sadly, when we go down, he may keep the job, because he will expalin to HIS GAMBLING FRIEND LLAMBIAS that he has experience in that division and can lead us out…..meanwhile, all of us who laughed at Di Canio now look like idiots. Well done Sunderland, brave move.

  • 268 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    @ruddy

    Don’t know mate Wigan were unlucky at man city and west ham,but it is nice seeing them having some bad luck for a change.

  • 269 peaco1980 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    It would be interesting to see if anyone thinks that Pardew has taken us further forward than Hoots would have done given the same players?

  • 270 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Liverpool – Better team and chasing Europe
    West Ham – Carroll factor
    QPR – Remy factor
    Arsenal – Better team and chasing Europe

    It’s going to be very, very difficuilt.

  • 271 bringvidukaback // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    on a side note… anyone would think that berba would make a good partner for cisse?

  • 272 ochytoon // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Zola’s a good shout, whoever mentioned him earlier. I highly doubt we could attract Moyes, I reckon he’d be content to sit out until the right job came up with a big, big club. To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me if he is in with a shout for the United job (once Fergie retires), or even a potential successor to Rafa in the summer.

  • 273 Novocastrian66 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    I’m not confident about stopping up, however Wigan need wins, they have to go for it as they have in their last two matches which will leave them vulnerable. I hope!

  • 274 manxpie // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    thats me done arguing i’ve stayed on since the full time whistle i’m shattered!!
    but i did it :)
    thanks ibiza n wwc for leaving me alone i forgive coz i’m argued out anyways zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • 275 papscrunt // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    I personally think Berbatov is steal of the season at 5m. He holds the ball up so well and brings others into play. He was a huge Shearer fan growing up. I reckon he’d have joined us in a heartbeat.

  • 276 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    @bringvidukaback
    Said that after the away defeat at Fulham he links the midfield and attack so well great player

  • 277 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    I honestly think its between us and Villa and Villa have a better chance of picking up 6 points in 5 games than we have of picking up 3 in 4.

    Wigan will win 2 also and I think if they draw on the last day of the season we could be heading down.

  • 278 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Beattie…

    Only difficult because of that clueless twat pardew!

  • 279 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Cockney

    We’ve missed too many opportunities.

    We have the hardest run in by far.

    People think we’ll beat QPR but with their pace and movement up front and probable ‘nothing left to lose’ attitude it won’t be easy.

    West Ham play our game better than we play it ourselves and Carroll is bang in form. The hammers dislike Pardew and fat Sam hates us.

    Liverpool are playing well at the moment and will want to beat us desperately to go ahead of Everton.

    Arsenal are arsenal and will look to destroy us and claim top .

    I just don’t see a win coming, really don’t. We need 4 points IMO.

  • 280 Novocastrian66 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Wigan regularly get bad luck, except when playing us. I think we’re the unluckiest club in the world. Circumstances always conspire against us.
    On managers, don’t agree about Zola. He struggled at WHU. I’ve seen Watford a couple of times on the TV and I’ve not been impressed.

  • 281 Munster Mag // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Oh God its getting worse the more I think about it. If we lose to liverpool etc, I can hear Pardew wittering the same shit…we was tired…..we have been unlucky with injuries….The senegalese FA didnt allow my off form striker to play …..sadly the game that may be the most relevant to our season is the loss to those Wigan knackers.

  • 282 Munster Mag // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Papscrunt ….but we dont buy guys like Berbatov silly ….we buy young guys, plenty of whom are shit! We dont buy class acts like Berbatov, cos Ashley is a genius….

  • 283 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Beattie…

    I know man i know!

    Sad times ahead because of 1 person…

    PARDEW.

  • 284 bringvidukaback // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    with the type of players we have i think berbatov would enjoy playing for us…
    seriously thinks that him, with cisse as a partner for the outlandish and ben arfa as a partner for flair and cabaye feeding him, would be grinning more and score and assist more than in fulham… was sad to see him snapped up by them.
    sure us fans would appreciate a graceful player like him too…

  • 285 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    If we are going into the last game needing points do you think we’ll get out of trouble?

    Wigan have been here a lot of times and Villa have an easier run in.

  • 286 belgrade fan // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Wigan has WBA and Arsenal away, Spurs home. no chance to finish above us. Then 1st thing- sack Pardew, he is killing us.

  • 287 Munster Mag // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    I hope many of you boys were alive and watching when David Kelly scored that scorching goal to keep us up…i was stuck in a london flat, but had a bottle of Broon for support….rarely been so mental when we scored. You know what we need now ? We need Kevin Keegan, and Paul Goddard!! Not some self serving excuse peddaling negative manager who cannot let his team attack all game – no matter what. Ashley and llambias need to start looking for a replacement soon, because even if we stay up, this bluffer cant be allowed to stay.

  • 288 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Munster…

    Your going off point.

    Remember there is nothing wrong with most of our squad, it is pardew who is the man behind these results.

    Berbs would of been nice, especially as he supports us but u and i know with any other manager besides pardew we would of had a very different season with those so called shit players we have.

  • 289 Beattie25 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Elliot was awful for their goal.

  • 290 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Its more a case of needing teams below us to do worse than us because i can only see a couple points from our games remaining…

    Pardew… ur my idol!

  • 291 spartacus // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    i think that we deserve our 16th position… What a shame … What’s wrong with this team omg. Sorry for my English.

  • 292 geordiejamie89 // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Poor as per usual. Pardew happy with a draw after saying this game was to make up for last weeks result. The first loss at St. James’ for over a decade against Sunderland, and a 1-1 draw is enough? Next game is Liverpool, which means there’s another three points gone. After that West Ham, and there’s no certainty for any points.
    Newcastle need to have a rethink in the summer, there is some positions which are very weak and need addressing, mainly strikers and wide players. Aubemeyang and a winger needed, and a CB if Colo leaves. Oh and a goalkeeper. With Harper leaving Krul and Elliot isn’t enough, so a Championship goalkeeper should be enough.

  • 293 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Just got to hope we can get a win against Liverpool it might actually suit our players the way Liverpool play as West Brom totally bullied us but Sissoko could maybe bully them?

    Thing is Wigan and Villa have been unlucky in there games recently we have been lucky but will our luck run out??!

    That Rodriguez looks some player remember we were linked with him and said 6 million was expensive??Sometimes getting a youngster from the championship could work would also love Llallana on the right wing for us

  • 294 bringvidukaback // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    not slagging elliot, but i do not think he is a good enough backup for krul…
    sure when called upon he has done okay for us, but all of these matches when threatened he has been shaky at times. as seen today, his handling seems suspect. some matches his decision making seems dodgy, like punching instead of trying to catch. also, his technique for shot stopping is sometimes quite unorthodox, which might lead to injuries. cant risk having just him and krul…

    that said, he seemed to have improved greatly this season, and with fraser foster and krul, our greatest asset in the backroom staff besides carr and co are the goalkeeping coaches!!

  • 295 rfcready // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    I’m just staring out the window. Sigh……….

  • 296 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Oh and a new manager in the summer is a definate. There are plenty of better managers available or soon to be available. Harry Redknapp would be an improvement and he could take the club somewhere with a bit of funding which he has already shown. Just the size of the club says that Newcastle should be in the top six, not looking over our shoulders worrying about the likes of Villa and Wigan.

  • 297 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Saying that the club have high hopes for Jak Alnwick apparently could do with loan deal for him next season we have a good track record of bringing through goalkeepers

  • 298 bringbacktheterraces // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    first time poster, long time supporter. is Jonas on Ashley inside payroll?

  • 299 BandB // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Munster

    This season was predictable way before Christmas. Sadly, the people who’ve been most wrong, for the longest, will be back on Monday, with their crew behind them.
    What do you expect?
    Humility?
    They back Pardew now by claiming he wasn’t backed in the summer. With an egregious lack of self-awareness of what they were saying then. You don’t hear much of “business plans that are the envy of the league” now, do you?
    All they have left is the mantra of “stability” and “positivity”. Last refuges of scoundrels.
    I’ve stuck to my guns and been howled down by a pack, not always with much support. “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.” WB Yeats.

  • 300 Munster Mag // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Thing is, we can talk about PEA all night, and a wide player, and a big centre half, but the problem still remains that we have a manager who is not good enough. In other words, with more good players, we may not achieve much more. We also have to realise that Cabaye is not physically strong enough to play more than about 75% of our games at a push so there’s no point Pardew going around bleating about him being missing. And of course his headcase , sorry – “warrior” – Tiote , the yellow card machine. Time for bed. Nite fellow mags.

  • 301 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Anyone watch the Watford game the Watford striker forestieir looks a neat little player

  • 302 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    BandB

    Great post.

    Also those that are now stoutly defending Pardew by saying he wasn’t backed in the transfer window last season are the ones that were agreeing with Pardew that we had enough in the team to do well at the beginning of the season.

    Hypocrites.

  • 303 For faen // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    I’ve been reading this blog for a while now and posting once in a while. But now I just need a break. This has taken a lot f my pleasure of being a football-fan away. Just non-stop complaining about Pardew this and Pardew that, while your just sitting at home in your couch thinking too f*****g much. You all think you hold the key to our success, but you’re all bloody nothing but false fans not supporting our great club. Instead of analyzing the matches you think that we’re masters of Europe and that we should win every bloody game with a margin of 3 goals. Wake up and get f*****g real!

  • 304 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    118Markaccus // Aug 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    We have four new players. Fact. People are ignoring this fact because they don’t see them as good enough (yet) to be considered as strengthening. How the fcuk do you know, they’ve hardly kicked a ball for us yet. Tiote was unheard of, and he’s a fan favorite now. How anyone can say we’re a joke because of this window is beyond me. That in itself is a joke, and people saying it are also jokes. Just calm down ffs and see how things go.

    This was posted in full support of the transfer policy

  • 305 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    150Markaccus // Aug 29, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    Ppb, yes marv will play plenty of games this year too. He’s an attacking winger, so a good forward option. I think we’re fine.

  • 306 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    The worst bit is Anita and Amalfitino should defo have been given a lot more game time!!!

    Probably with a better manager who wants to play pass and move they would have thrived same with Marveux and possibly Campbell

    Same with the likes of Ferguson who got shipped out the boy can deliver crosses of amazing quality and is quick but but looked shit because we never gave him the ball or played too much long ball to him or like against Liverpool played him out of position which is Pardews favourite thing to do to a player

    Thats it I am no longer on the fence PARDEW OUT !

  • 307 beddersmag // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Too much blame attached to pardew and not enough to the players. Their confidence is obviously low but seriously i would not like to be in the trenches with these guys. Sissoko will not head a ball, cabaye is a wimp, jonas looks a beaten man, cisse is more concerned with the spectacular, and generally we have no-one leading by example to get us over the line. Its a lack of mental courage for me. No way pardew told them to come out and just be bloody useless. They bottled it, simple as that

  • 308 NewcastleMole // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Its no wonder Cabaye has depression with the style of football we play. So So Negative each game

  • 309 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    46Markaccus // Aug 30, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Look, toon73, I’m not doing the ‘he said this and that’ blollox, I’m just accepting what he said as true, and if it turns out to be a trick then great! Bonus! But I’m happy with what we have, and will therefore not be dissapointed if he is telling the truth. Its simple. People who ask for exact quotes are usually trying to start something pointless and petty, and I’m fed up with that cr@p on here.

  • 310 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    57Markaccus // Aug 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Kyo, how do you know the players we signed won’t push us on? Are you such an expert on these new players? You are over-negative. And daft if you believe that 2 deadline day signings would make a difference between 8th and 4th. Just chill oit and see what happens. Everyone had the same low expectations last year, and look what happened.

  • 311 Zero // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    @Manxpie

    erm ive been on for about 2 years on/off, admittedly my form posts stopped in january as i moved to the states for work, i dont see how this is relevant to my posts or opinions…
    I honestly dont remember you posting in my time on the blog…. could be i didnt recognise your name or your stance on pards has made you apparent to me.

    You also didnt read my post correctly, i said i didnt disagree with the needs for upgrades…. i.e. we needed them!

    Im the first to say its not all his fault, however he is not defendable for his dire performance and should be sacked for his inept ability as a manager, anyone else would have been.

    I fail to see how he has taken really good players and underperformed with them consistantly.

  • 312 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    3 things, 1st – 6 points clear of wigan- wigan have a game in hand. 2nd – we have the hardest run in than anyone else
    3rd pardew needs a good sacking . he was brought in to take us to another level , he did just that! ive never seen football like it on weekly basis. hes taken us to another level alright ! prepare for a nail biting last 5 games , then, if we stay up , prepare to go through it again next season ( if he is still here )

  • 313 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    171Markaccus // Aug 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Ruddy, there are even some of us (me) who believe we won’t sign anyone else, and are still happy with what we have. Where would that put me in the moron-enlightened scale

  • 314 Zero // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    171Markaccus ??? beattie why are you repeating posts by him?

  • 315 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    Zero

    He’s a hypocrite and I’m sick to death of him. Thought I’d show him for what he is and then wash my hands of my disliking toward him and never speak to him again.

  • 316 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Wigan play Aston Villa on the last day which is a bonus- a draw will be the least likely result. I hope we can go for the jugular against Liverpool this Saturday, with the whole of England watching. My only problem is- Sturridge absolutely murdered us last season with Chelsea, let’s hope he doesn’t do it again. I think we can get a draw from Liverpool and West Ham, beat an already relegated QPR side and anything against Arsenal would be a bonus, as I think we SHOULD be safe by then.

  • 317 whatsup // Apr 21, 2013 at 2:39 AM

    Cisse’s hold up play today was so poor – gave the ball away each and every time. we miss Ba.




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