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Newcastle Come Up Short At The Hawthorns

10:23 am, Sunday, April 21st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 176 Comments

Alan Pardew was trying to be positive after the game yesterday, but most fans wanted all three points as some restitution for the humiliation we had to suffer last Sunday against Sunderland.

rob elliot saves from Long after dropping ball

Elliot makes good save from Long – after mishandling the ball

And we could have had the game put to bed at half time, if only we had players who could take some of the easy chances that were presented.

And we are really suffering from not getting Loic Remy in January, who could have got us some goals, but it now seems Liverpool are interested in him, and there’s no doubt he would have been great at Newcastle.

Bur it’s history now and it just wasn’t to be.

This is some of that Alan Pardew said after the game yesterday:

“West Brom have had some fantastic results here. We stood up well to them.” “If you have a goalkeeper who can hit the ball to the edge of the opposition box to powerful strikers, which they have, then it’s difficult.”

“The disappointing thing about the second-half is that we didn’t get hold of the ball or create a chance to get the winning goal. We were hanging on at the end, which we did well.”

And Rob Elliot had one or two dodgy moments in the game yesterday, but he still saved Newcastle with a tremendous stop from James Morrison, and a goal from Morrison would have meant defeat for Newcastle, and all hell would have broke loose yesterday, if that had happened – make no mistake.

Pardew praised his back-up goalkeeper:

“Whenever Rob’s been called upon he’s been terrific.” “He made one tiny error at the start of the second-half when the ball bobbled in front of him.

“So it took great character to be strong and solid in the second half.” “He came for all the crosses. And the save from the header was superb. He’s good at that. He can be proud of his performance.”

It was a good performance in the first half yesterday from our lads, when we looked a very decent side, but the second half was all too familiar and mediocre, and most fans wanted to see the win yesterday – and we didn’t get it.

Maybe next Saturday against Liverpool at St. James’ Park.

Hope so.

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176 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    PPB

    Realistically where will we finish or realistically where can we finish?

    We are not just a team of nobodies that did well one season.

    I’m the team we have league winners, international stars and players that have turned down the highest level of club football to join us.

    What does aiming top 10 say to players who have a history of winning things?

  • 2 Grafton83 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Pardew won’t bring us back any points from Liverpool, the limit of his ability is probably that we arrive for the game on time. I think that’s the most we can hope for with his sky high expectations and incredible tactics

  • 3 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Elliott looked pretty shaky to me, made some very strange decisions, but if I repeat Elliott made one tiny error over and over … more spin from Pardew.

    He must think we’re thick as shite.

  • 4 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    no matter wot we post on here it is all down 2 Mike Ashley, he didn’t become a billionaire by being stupid, i think Pardumb wil b gone in the summer

  • 5 leeb1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Pardew could take Barcelona down

  • 6 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Think he likes there goalkeeper bet he goes in for him cos he can hoof it to the other box.

  • 7 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Beattie25,
    having been around this blog for as long (longer?) than you I now know that you make emotionally charged but sensible and intelligent (oh yeah, and funny!) comments. Still, I think the Powell analogy is not correct. Didn’t he hold the world record for like three years? So, he’s not an also-run like us :( , more an Arsenal

  • 8 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    eaststandgeordie1982

    think u could b rite, he’l prob work on this wey elliot all week and giv the other players the week off

  • 9 Grafton83 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    PaToon I very much hope that’s the case but I think that MA is more concerned with the books balancing rather than hiring someone new and paying off Pardews contract.

  • 10 leeb1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Haha if you have a goalkeeper who can hit the edge of your area and you have 2 big strikers then it will cause you problems. We have neither yet he still tries to play that way. What a joke

  • 11 blew // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    We should let Ashley and DL know what we think of the disasterous Pardew. Starting at the Liverpool game.
    Charlton,West Ham and Soton had enough sense to chase him before irrepairable damage was caused.
    Ashley and DL dont have that sense.
    I cant see a win in this team and fear the worst.

  • 12 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Grafton83

    Although AP has an 8 year contract i don’t think MA is stupid enuf 2 giv it without clauses, maybe that he can b sacked without payour if they finish below 10th or sumthin like that, nearly sure i heard sumwer that if he gets sacked he ashley only has 2 pay 1 years wages, just hope 2 fck he goes soon

  • 13 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Patoon

    I agree but he did get nufc relegated, hire useless managers and make critical errors by being naieve to the true difficulties of an industry he had no experience in.

    I hope his experience in football show through and he realises there is more money to be made from a decent manager getting the team into top 6 than a shit manager with no consistency offering nothing.

    A good brand of football is also very attractive to football enthusiasts and so it will be featured more on television and will attract more viewers.

    Who’d watch a nufc match these days? Our own fans can barely watch. The opposition will watch in their droves because we are considered a poor team, easily outplayed. Speaking world wide, fans are attracted to good football and quality play.

    Swansea are now a bigger name in Europe than nufc. People talk about their football, their manager and their quality despite their limited resources. People are interested in them, and Southampton and now the scum. Whose interested in nufc? Why would foreign fans tune in to watch football they could’ve watched in south London 30 years ago?

    Newcastle have been accused in some parts of the French press of taking some of their finest talent out of their country. What will they say if we destroy some of their finest talent we took out of their country?

    Ashley must see this? Surely he isn’t stupid as you said. But as JFA says, maybe he is cleverer than any of us give him credit for.

  • 14 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Pardew is MA lapdog. He does exactly as he is told and they are ‘mates’ i dont see him getting sacked.

  • 15 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Patoon,
    Maybe I am misreading your posts but somewhere in there you’re trying to claim that Mike Ashley knows what he’s doing with a football club.

  • 16 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Cyprus

    You’re taking it too literally for gods sake.

    I was highlighting the attitude of premier athletes, even ones that are not considered the best in the world.

    If I knew anymore 100 m runners I would’ve said them, but I was thinking of runners outside the top 4 in the world.

    Some people take everything so literally they can’t understand the sentiments behind it.

    I think I’m to artistic for the blog. I try to convey similarities only to be shot down for inaccuracies when the principles remain the same?!

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Beattie, when did I ever say that you fuskin wind up merchant :)

  • 18 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Cyprus

    Sorry, on a reread that was harsh.

    But my point is not to actually compare Newcastle and Asafa Powell but to compare the mentalities of someone who could easily aim for mediocrity because he will not win the championships but actually aims as high as he possibly can get.

  • 19 Graeme // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    The sad part is that with the new players arriving in January, we actually have a better, much more skillful squad than at any time since SBR, maybe even the “Entertainers”!!

    Turning them into the shower of sh1te currently masquerading as a NUFC football team has to be the work of some twisted ingenious mind.

    Unfortunately, the excuse of the injuries being used is disguising the fact that the Manager just does not seem able to blend the undeniable skill and ability at his disposal, into any sort of cohesive unit.

    With the addition of 3 or 4 players, in key positions, during the summer window; a good pre-season to bed the new additions into the squad, then there is absolutely NO reason why NUFC should not be challenging for a European place next season plus a decent run in the cups.

    There is just no excuse for the mediocrity of a “Top 10 place” being bandied about by Pardew. A disgraceful attitude and total lack of ambition that is just not acceptable to a Football club supposedly striving for success. If this is the limit of his expectations for next season, he should apply for the QPR job in the summer.

  • 20 Black and White Blood // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Dream manager? Wenger’s only got a year left and he knows how to get results on a shoestring.

  • 21 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    JFA

    I think it was you, perhaps not. Ha ha.

    I thought I was saying once he was stupid and you said that’s what we think. He is clever enough to want mediocrity becausee he doesn’t have to invest as much to get a mid table team and use them as a platform for sports direct.

    Maybe I dreamt it or maybe I even wrote that when I worked under the name of JFA2.

  • 22 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Beattie25

    Who do u think we should bring in, i said on the blog last week about how wel PDC had done since he went 2 Sunderland and was shot down straight away by a few bloggers saying that he has only played 2 game, he has restored pride in his players and got them playin football, i said that Sunderland would prob finish above us and yesterday they beat a very good everton team 2 go above us, i would like 2 c Gus Poyet as he has his team at Brighton playing good attractive football like we want 2 c our beloved toon playing but sum people don’t want him and think we should go 4 a top european manager, wots ur thots on this

  • 23 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Jail for Ashley

    all i said that was MA didn’t become a billionaire by being stupid and that Pardumb would b gone by the summer, i can’t wait 2 c the back of him and his shite football, he’s prob the reason i’m so worked up 2 be honest, hav been on the edge since last sunday lol

  • 24 mally72 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    I agree with dmac @14 we R stuck with pardew weather we like it or not the best we can hope for is that Ashley sees some sense and brings in a good assistant to help with pardewa lack of tactical awareness a young manager who is looking for a chnce to prove himself in what is meant to be the best league in the world. Pardew will stay but im sure if help was offered to him he would take it

  • 25 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Patoon

    Honestly there are so many quality young European managers out there.

    Managers like PDC and Pochettino are 10 a penny in Europe. The problem is that English managers have never left this country to manage or play as players where as a lot of European managers have played and managed in various leagues. This makes a massive difference IMO. There needs to be versatility with ability and football has changed like all major sports. Modern sports are now like an art. They are like games of chess with cultured tactics, sports science and universal experience pre requisites of success.

    Boxing used to be about knocking your opponent out. Now it’s about studying their moves, training for specific offensive attacks to exploit weaknesses and getting tactics right.

    That is top level sports in any field. Tactics are so paramount. Pardew has none.

    For me we need to look for managers in the top 8 of Spain, Italy and Germany. Top 6 of Portugal, Russia, France and Holland and top 2 of countries like Belgium, Norway, Sweden and Turkey.

  • 26 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    watched the game yesterday and i got to say what a abysmal performance second half, what the hell was Pardew thinking sitting deep on a 1-0 lead, does he even know football these days ffs man wake up.

    oh does any1 know what his excuses where, don’t tell me players where tired again?

  • 27 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    After the damage that AP has done with the players’ confidence at this club and think we’d also need a sports psychologist as wel as a new manager, Jim McGuinness in 4 me

  • 28 do the hatem shake // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    pardew is tactically retarded tbf he does it all the time he sits deep when we have the first half in the lead like against villa away we sat deep all half 2 nil up what was he thinking we just play to to defense with him we have better attackers then defenders so lets attack and be the entertainers we once where

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Patoon,
    What winds me up is people sticking to the mantra of how well we are run these days, does three relegation battles and the worst football on record smell of being well run.

  • 30 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Are people starting planning ‘Pardew Out’ banners for saturday already? Wow- I seriously hope you do, and then we go on to stuff Liverpool.

  • 31 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    blew@11—agree totally, and just ignore the comments that are sure to follow suggesting we will be letting the team down-we wont, we will be doing them a huge favour, and the club, in that we wont lose our players in summer when a ” time served” manager is appointed

  • 32 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Potential Managers in Spain:

    Philippe Montanier – Sociedad
    Ernesto Valverde Tejedor – Valencia
    Marcelo Bielsa – Bilboa
    Juan Ignacio Martínez – Levante
    Aitor Karanka – Real Madrid Assistant Manager
    Jordi Roura – Barca Assistant Manager
    Germán Burgos – Athletico Madrid Assisntant Manager

  • 33 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    we are not stuck with anyone,

    we do have a say

    stop being a sheep and use your big boys voice,

  • 34 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Catchy you think we will get rid of Pardew with 4 games to go?

  • 35 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    no, but we could

  • 36 beefman13 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Every single game this season when we have been in the lead, our tactics change, we let other teams in to the game and we try to hang on for dear life, on the other hand when we go behind we start to play some decent football, we can play good stuff we can create chances, you could tell Pardew was well happy with the point yesterday, that’s what he came for, we could of had it wrapped up by halftime, but even so push on for that second goal, we did not of course and an avalanche of corners free kicks followed in another squeaky bum second half for us.

    Teams do know for sure how we are going to play if we take a lead, every game we have left is tricky to say the least, will we scrape by, god willing hopefully, but Pardew has made this for me the worst season to watch NUFC since the very start of the nineties, I have been that frustrated and disappointed with the man, he has been given the bullets to fire, even though it should have been earlier, but in plenty of time, we have endured 18 defeats, the poorest set plays and corners I have ever seen from any team anywhere in my memory as a fan, I cant put any stronger than that.

  • 37 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    carver , stone beardo can do no worsre for the last matches,

  • 38 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    It is not uncommon for somebodyy to claim something in a post then being proved wrong, I said that SD would be our shirt sponsors before virgin took over and that Danny Graham would be signed before Cisse joined us, however I was ridiculed for suggesting that our efforts in the transfer market last was a smokescreen to keep fans onside until after January when Dirk Llambias admitted that it was a well thought out plan that we had enough in the squad to finish in the top ten.Liars.

  • 39 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    i fearblosing our good players now if he stays, the right gut could do wonders with them

  • 40 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Would be silly to get rid of your manager now tbh. Even though I think he will get sacked in the summer- we have to get behind him and the team for the remainder of the games. Ashley won’t sack him- yet.

  • 41 toon kk // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Ive never known a team so inconsistent as us from game to game and half to half. Yesterday’s second half was terrible. Looked like two different teams, has to be down to Pardews tactics. Or did they tire again? Trouble is they turned up the heat and we can’t handle it. NUFC needs a shake its been the same all season.

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Beefman,
    Where in your logic am I a moaning pr! Ck for having a dig at Ashley yet you seem to slate Pardew with impunity.

  • 43 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Potential Managers in Italy:

    Andrea Stramaccioni – Inter Milan
    Vladimir Petkovi? – Lazio
    Vincenzo Montella – Fiorentina
    Mauro Tassotti – AC Milan Assisitant Manager
    Walter Mazzarri – Napoli

  • 44 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    guj

    i was told nov was a bad time, jan was a bad time, march was too, when is ever a good time

    southamton and sunderland borh changed theres, seems to have worked for them

    truth is , we need a lift , now, he can not give it , so we are drowning with every game he takes control of

  • 45 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    If we win against liverpool which i dont think we will, that gives us 40pts and we should be safe. I would sack Pardew then or after our next loss. I would however hope that newcastle are talking to prospective managers behind the scenes at the moment. So its a quick appoinment.

  • 46 Krul to be Kind // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    I’d take Steve Clarke as a replacement any day
    – He has served his apprenticeship as a coach, much in the same way as Hoots
    – He knows the club
    – He was a solid centre half in his day
    – Works a backline well
    – Has coached at some of the top EPL clubs
    – Thoroughly deserves a chance at a bigger club after his first FT management season
    – Highly thought of as a coach by some of the bigger names in management
    – Still SEES himself as a coach, not a power hungry unfulfilled manager
    – Works well with what he has got

    I have watched WBA a few times this year and there attacking intent, how they set up, off the ball discipline and shape is enviable, this is all down to Clarke. He also comes across as an affable guy who is realistic, honest and above all else – he knows the game!

    Thoughts?

  • 47 JAMSHA // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers is
    prepared to fork out £18m this summer to
    sign QPR striker Loic Remy and
    Manchester City’s Micah Richards – STAR
    ON SUNDAY

  • 48 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    It reaks of our run in when we got relegated. Oh its Ok we have Villa we will beat them… We still have West Ham and Qpr left we will beat them. Oh really?

  • 49 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Potential Managers in Germany:

    Thorsten Fink – Hamburg
    Lucien Favre – Monchengladbach
    Christian Streich – Frieburg
    Sami Hyypia – Leverkusen
    Zeljko Buva? – Dortmund Assistant Manager (who is brill by the way)

  • 50 Krul to be Kind // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Beattie

    I would love to see someone from Dortmund come in, I think our model is very similar to what they have done over the years and NOT the Arsenal way.

    They are a tight cohesive unit as a club, I really look on in admiration at them, and they will only get better!

  • 51 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    The sad thing is Beattie look at MA track records of mangers – all have been washed up british managers.

    Keegan, Kinnear, Pardew

    I think if he sacked Pardew he would appoint someone like

    Steve Mclaren, alan curbishely – someone of that ilk clearly not good enough.

  • 52 Novocastrian66 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    I wonder how many points we have lost from being in a winning position? I reckon a lot more than what we have gained from coming back from a losing position. Don’t know the facts, it would be nice to know. There’s a challenge for one of the stato’s out there.

  • 53 jail4pardew // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    jail for Ashley, yes this is your fav beefman with a name change refresher, I still support the owner, the owner has provided his manager with the ammunition, his manager has messed up, injuries or not, we still had a decent team on paper out there yesterday, it could have been stronger again but for his unwillingness to even rest certain players, what does anita think watching james perch who cannot put a foot on a ball for more than a milli second and just runs around sticking a toe in here or there, and Jonas, huff puff fall over, your original nursery rhyme player, is Anita thart bad or that much of a risk, he must be fresh as a daisy, no tiredness on his behalf.

    MA hired Alan Pardew, that’s his mistake, he gave 8 year contracts to the coaching staff, on hignsight another mistake even though at the time, it did show we need stability and it was a good way to show we were going in the right direction.

    I will still have an open mind, I will comment how I see it, I wont stick up for him because MA employed him, and I am pretty sure he wont get sacked anytime soon, I have mentioned quite a few times that we need to headhunt a top foreign coach to work alongside Pardew, it needs freshening up tactically big style, it has been like electric shock treatment for me this season, im drained, its been shocking!!!!

  • 54 do the hatem shake // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    when was the last time we had a foreign manager with no prem experience i mean i would take the risk in the summer not now pardew will make us survive that’s all he can do tbf

  • 55 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Catchy- I, too, thought he was going to get sacked after the Reading game, but he wasn’t, and was given 4 new players – French internationals, to improve upon, but we are currently in the same position we was after the reading game- 16th. I think his time is up as our boss as I don’t think the fans want him anymore and I don’t think we’ll forget the 0-3 loss at home. It’s sad as I have backed him the whole season, with there being so many injuries, but it’s obvious he’s tactically inept and can’t manage this bunch of players.

  • 56 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Potential Managers in France:

    Alain Cassanova – Toulouse
    Francis Gillot – Bordeaux
    Rudi Garcia – Lille
    Claude Puel – Nice
    Christophe Galtier – St Etienne
    Rémi Garde – Lyon
    Paul Clement – PSG Assistant Manager (Also English and has coached all over including with Ancelloti at Chelsea)
    Laurent Blanc – Unattached

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    leeb

    They’d never have heard of him but could you imagine Pardew at Barcelona after the first 500 candidates had met sticky ends there’d be rioting in the streets !!

    Liked the earlier comment which sums it up perfectly
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    All these players been listed as targets. How many want to come? Easier just to do this.
    Out- pardew
    In-manager with attacking minded play and a tactical brain to be tinker and change a game.
    Honestly don’t think too many players are needed.A new manager alone could buy us 8 places

  • 58 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    not getting behind pardew now could result in relegation. we need to support him to the last day of the season so that we limp over the line into 17th place.

    then the next day we must campaign for pardew to leave. there are so many technical european managers out there who would be orgasming over our squad

    horses for courses, pardew was brought in when carroll was still here, made sense, as soon as he went we were doomed lol

    you can only play defensive football for so long until the players get demoralised and their natural ability stifled

    rumours of benitez, dont like him but leagues above pards. di matteo, solskjaer, hyypia, bergkamp, would take any of them

  • 59 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    But he will get sacked in the summer if he is- not now

  • 60 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Dragan Stojkovic for me if pardew goes! Hes Wengers recommendation to the board to take over at arsenal! The board need to actually interview a candidate and take them on based on their coaching, tactics and philosophy! If barca proved anything with Guardiola and villanova it is that experience isnt the be all and end all, the game has massively changed in last few years snd dinosaurs like redknapp, pardew, hughes etc are being found out

  • 61 JAMSHA // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Laurent Blanc

    Yes PLEASE

  • 62 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    is it me or soes laurent blanc seem a frustratingly obvious choice?

    isnt it that he didnt get on with arfa or something?

    surely he will see that hes matured now

  • 63 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    catchy – read your comment again @ 35 ? explain that please lol.

  • 64 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    @ Cisse’s Big Toe- I agree totally, not the right man for the job to take us forward after this season.

  • 65 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    wigan are gone so we are safe but not getting rid of pardew asap just masks over all the problems and ashley must be thrilled with pardew saying top 10 next season. Those season tickets are just going to fly off the shelf now!!!!

  • 66 JAMSHA // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Cisse’s Big Toe

    its not him who had prob wit arfa , its the current french manger who had prob

  • 67 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    big toe

    Blanc total no brainer for me

  • 68 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Potential Managers in Holland:

    Jan Wouters – Uterecht
    Ronald Koeman – Feyenord
    Fred Rutten – Vittese
    Phillipe Cocu – PSV Assistant Manager
    Dennis Bergkamp – Ajax Assistant Manager
    Frank De Boer – – Ajax
    Marco Van Basten – Heerenveen

  • 69 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Santon is one of my favourite players. It’d be madness to get rid of him. We do need to change things around a lot though. I still like to see these players at the club:

    Remy
    Benteke
    Balde
    Belhanda
    Douglas
    Alderweireld

    Mbiwa wanted to go to Man Utd be we signed him. Alderweireld apparently wants to go to Liverpool, but we need to sign him. Anita may be able to persuade him to join. Most of our players are french speaking so he’ll fit in well.

    I don’t mind if Cabaye and Tiote leaves. I feel we can get better players in that position. I still think Marveaux is the best playmaker in the squad by a country mile. If he wasn’t as injury prone he’d be in the France side. I rate him really highly. Very rarely gives the ball away, is good at running at players, creates chances, can strike the ball. Marveaux just needs a add a few more goals to his game.

    Can’t believe Pardew didn’t play him at the start of the season. His decision making is terrible. Why paid £6.5m for Anita and not play him? Is he crazy?

  • 70 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    jayphoto

    good shout there. I thought you were a pardew man but glad to see your stance is altering

  • 71 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    cbt

    your wrong

    support the team 100% , but as fans, we do not have to sopport pardew at all
    infact i think rhe players will distance themselfs from the players

  • 72 JAMSHA // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    for the nxt 4 games we need to offer 1mill bonous per game for the players if they managed to win … that would make them go for a win

  • 73 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Dmac,
    There’s another one calling me all the thick retarded so and so’s for not agreeing with Mike Ashleys way of doing things, listen to you bitching about the guy he’s given an eight year contract.

  • 74 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Kets- nice to meet you, I hear you’re quite a legend around these parts. I’d love to see Benteke here too, and Belhanda would be a brilliant 3rd midfielder in a 433 with Yohan and Moussa.

  • 75 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    As soon as we sit back we lose. If we had fast wingers or a target man we could maybe catch them on the counter attack but instead we hoof it up towards Jonas or Cisse who can’t win headers. This is the tactics of a clueless man who would try to teach messi hoofball.

    Maybe if we had messi we could aim for the top 9

  • 76 do the hatem shake // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Beattie25 i think you wasted your time remember in January where we were like 1 point safe and derek said we have no intentions of getting rid of pardew whats change now ?

  • 77 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    If we had a manager like Blanc, we’d be able to attract almost every player on the planet. I’m sure he’d transform us into a top 4 side. Pardew has to go. He doesn’t pick his best team and keeps playing Cabaye, Gutierrez and Tiote who are under-performing.

  • 78 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    so many good managers in europe at the moment, if we could teach carr to scout managers….

    for me they have to have a french background given the direction of our squad.

    blanc rudi garcia, dare i say wenger? living on borrowed time at arsenal. works within tight budget, promotes youth, natural fit

  • 79 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    cisses big toe @57 what can pardew do that no decent manager can, in terms of saving us from relegation ?

  • 80 jail4pardew // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Interesting, PADDY POWER, quoting 50/1 for Alan Pardew or Paolo di canio to be the next manager fired!

    Interesting they see Pardew cemented this way, of course I don’t feel he will get the sack right now, he is just so TERRIFIED of LOOSING rather than thinking positively as he always calls it and going for the complete commited 90 min, WIN.

  • 81 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    think of how well we played against bordeaux, the second half of the benfica game, wba and man u last year. now imagine us playing like that week in week out

    under a new manager, c’est possible

  • 82 Novocastrian66 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    We have to get behind the whole team including Pardew until the end of the season. We cannot cause a split. A review should take place once the seasons over. There is a lot of negativity around at the moment a quite rightly so, but it cannot be allowed to manifest into a hate campaign on match day.

  • 83 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    JFA – if you have read any of my posts you would know that i very rarely stoop to personally insult anyone. I may however have disagreed with you.

    I like alot of the things MA has done does that mean i am not allowed to disagree with a few aswell? Wasnt aware i had to be either either 100% for or against…..

  • 84 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    stuart no9,

    it would be too much of a risk, the positive effects of new manager syndrome happen half the time, whereas sometimes a team takes a while to adapt and doesnt pick up any points from the first couple of games. we will stay up under pardew. just. although results did not go our way with stoke winning, given that wigan always seem to escape

  • 85 do the hatem shake // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    we need a manager who picks form and class not hard workers this is pardews biggest fault i mean anita has a better cross can defend as well he is an upgrade on jonas but no wont never get a start until pardew goes

  • 86 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Giving Pardew an 8 year contract was the right thing to do. This club needs stability. He had to give it to Pardew as he is in charge and by all accounts was given manager of the year last season and finished 5th. As it transpires Pardew is not the right man to have trusted the responsibility of that stabilising project to.

  • 87 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Le Présidente- Imagine! 😀

  • 88 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Dmac,
    Very diplomatic response, I am now fed up with Pardew, going to my first game since Southampton on Saturday, it will be interesting to gauge the crowds feelings.

  • 89 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    cisses big toe @ 82 thats a fair enough point – lets hope your right !

  • 90 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    From the word go i actually opposed the appointment of someone that had been sacked by Charlton, Southampton and West ham.

  • 91 spitfire_ // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    If there’s a person which opinion is not interesting for me just because his posts are deluded and the same day after day and lets call this person with some random name like Ketsbaia9 for example… can I just block his comments from my control panel because I don’t want to scroll down everytime when he write the same bo11ocks?

  • 92 Yorkgeordie // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Elliot IS dodgy, as is Mbiwa, Taylor has been carrying him for weeks and has now taken to shouting at him in frustration.

  • 93 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    i would have liked nothing more than for pardew to be the right man for the job, but he just…isnt

  • 94 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Quick question- would you rather have Laurent Blanc and sell HBA or keep HBA and get a lesser skilled manager?

  • 95 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    novo

    we are all behind the team for the 90 mins every time. however, it is same old, same old every match. Whenever we have a good spell, then wham pardew slams the brakes on and all initiative and momentum is fatally lost. it’s like someone flicking a switch to batten down the hatches.

  • 96 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    I live around about 300 miles away and so the chances for me to go are limited.

    I have been to Reading at home, Villa away, Benfica second leg this season and have been frustrated at all of them. Each game has been affected by our inability to play in the second half. Late goals have glossed over the fact that we very rarely turn up for second halves.

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Dmac,
    99% of this blog opposed his appointment, but I cant deny that a fifth place finish won me over, , I’ve defended him as much as I possibly can this season but I’ve finally thrown the towel in with him.I remember asking for a whip round on here to buy him a backbone and you teared into me for it, may I suggest another such collection.

  • 98 yo-yo // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Very depressing mood today on here.
    I’m of the view that our players are still not as good as we think and the squad overall is 6-10th in terms of quality.
    The players are playing badly – even between two halves of a game.
    A manager who could overperform like Pardew did last season can only do that for so long before the cracks appear.
    Moyes has done a lot with little but they have sold some big players to feed incomiong transfers. We will too. Everton usually have very poor runs of form over a season Moyes hardly plays pass and move and is a prgamtist like Pardew. There are very few purist style maagers in the EPL.
    BUT – there is no excuse for a side that can only play for 45 mins in 95; a side whose tactics are very easy to counter – and Alan has lost so much confidence in himself as well as the team on the pitch he is falling back on the Shola option – not the 442 to 433 type changes we did last season during a game fr’instance..
    Football is a confidence game – like most sport and I’m sure Mashley knows exactly what is going on and the shortcomings of his team and managerial/coaching crew.
    I think we’ll recruit some decent players this summer and Alan will be given a quiet ultimatum to shape up on pitch performance.
    AP won’t go in July – but if we are not doing well at the end of September he will be gone – unless he is kicked upstrairs pre-season and we get a dedicated first team coach.
    Judging from previous Mashley managerial appointments he will pick the wrong guy so all the wishlists on here are just a waste of time. My own preference for first team coach would be Gus (possibly Rafa as he is a proven winner but has a lot of baggage) but I would want a much much stronger coaching team behind him than we have now. Overomanticise the Geordie contingent we have but they ain’t delivering either – it isn’t just AP at fault.

  • 99 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    i think the issue with ben arfa and blanc was a flash in the pan. there were 4 players involved and the matter was quickly diffused.

  • 100 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    @rotonda – aye i was whilst we had injuries and small squad! I expected the play to change when he had the resources available but it hasn’t, we’ve got arguably the strongest starting XI outside the top 5, yet the performances are still dire! Its worrying that swansea, west brom, liverpool etc all look to be making clear development under managers with modern thinking, be horrible to see us left behind!

  • 101 toon252 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Yorkgeordie

    Are you on crack?

  • 102 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    “The disappointing thing about the second-half is that we didn’t get hold of the ball or create a chance to get the winning goal”
    ——————————————————————————-

    No so much disappointing Mr. Pardew as much as it’s been the norm all season under you, we are only capable of putting in 45 minuet performances

  • 103 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    yo yo

    Moyes didn’t take teams down (west ham very nearly as well) or have 2 record losing streaks at 2 different clubs.
    Not a good analogy to Pardew.

    If we truly were a big club Pardew would be nowhere near us in terms of being appointed on merit .

  • 104 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Wandering around in my NUFC top, sick of seeing Mackem’s with big grins on their faces daring at me to look at them.

    Hope the next derby is early in the season.

    Pardew just doesn’t realise … it’s going to be a long painful summer.

  • 105 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    I cannot remember said conversation but I’m not denying that it happened. If it came after a loss i tend to get pretty riled up.

    I am in a very similar boat to you mate, when he was appointed i was like oh christ and I remember turning up to footy training expecting the lads to ridicule us (which they did) but come the end of the season it was me that was laughing (a few of them are scousers).
    I have however run well and truly out of patience. If he stays ok we build in the summer and push on, if he goes i will not be crying about it.

  • 106 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Yo-yo,
    I would have thought that the 20th richest club in the world would employ a Johan Cruyff type person as the man upstairs not a Johnston paint winner with a sideline in windows.

  • 107 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Blanc coming would result in HBA going! 100% but out of interest, how many people would accept blanc if it meant no HBA? Hes a good manager, really got the best out of gouffran at bordeaux but he is a very harsh disciplinarian! Really takes no #%^€ from anyone!

  • 108 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Other Potential Managers:

    Ole Solksjaer – Molde
    John van den Brom – Anderlecht
    Slaven Bilic – Lokomtiv Moscow
    Jorge Jesus – Benfica
    Rafa Benitez – Unattached at end of season
    Frank Rykaard – Saudi Arabia
    Ricardo Pinto – Red Star Belgrade
    Luciano Spaletti – St Petersberg
    Ivan Jovanovic – Apoel
    Michel – Olympiakos
    Vítor Pereira – Porto
    Jose Peseiro – Braga
    Murat Yakin – FC Basel
    Rikard Norling – Malmo
    Kasper Hjulmand – FC Nordsjaeland
    Ricardo Moniz – Ferencvarosi
    Per Joar Hansen – Rosenberg

  • 109 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    @jayphoto

    the chances of Blanc coming are around 0%, but a quality manager to take care of a whole squad is far more important than any one player

  • 110 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Thing with HBA and Blanc, its not so much a fall out, its a complete personality clash! Blanc treats his players like marines and if a player doesnt buy into that they don’t last with him! Hes not the kind of manager to put an arm round players

  • 111 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Jay

    HBA wouldn’t leave.

    Even if he did I’d rather have a manger who gets the team playing good football and lays the foundation of success than have any player.

  • 112 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    such a hard descision tbh, i love hba so much, he and yohan are two players i never want to leave. rudi garciaaaa

  • 113 yo-yo // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Rotonda

    Moyes has yo-yoed the Toffees most seasons. He is a decent manaager for sure but would only be a marginal upgrade – and certainly not improve the style of play to pass and move as he is pretty much old school.

    And you`re absolutely right – we are not a big club anymore and haven’t been for over 50 years. We are a mid ranking club – a sleeping giant maybe. Yes we should have done better thanb AP when he weas appointed. But Mashley has to work with the guy and I think he’d have major problems with Rafa for example. Agree we are def worth an upgrade now too. Wolves are another club with fantastic history but not much in the modern era. There are quite a few others. 52,000 geordies have been no guarantee of success – the passion and number of fans doesn\t breed success otherwise we’d be top 5 every year.

    My point is that Mashley has a poor track record in picking managers and establishing a working relationship with them.
    We have to hope that either Alan ups his game or Mash improves his recruitment and realise that the quality of the chauffeur does make a difference to whether the Roller crashes or accelerates.

  • 114 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    love how were speaking like we have a divine right to any manager we want! we are 16th in the league lol

  • 115 dmac // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Id have Blanc over HBA. Probably come in for some criticism here but i do not understand the HBA thing – injured alot and when he is, he is allowed to disappear to France on a jolly whilst he mends at clairefontaine? Call me old fashioned but surely he should be sticking around and being with the squad. Look at Ryan Taylor a few times this year he has been in the stands cheering his team mates on. HBA has been absent nearly all season.

    Top ability, but something doesnt sit right with me.

  • 116 Guj NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Coloccini back in training this week 😀

  • 117 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Jay

    When did you become point of authority on all things Laurent Blanc?

    When did you play under him?

    What did Ben Arfa say to you when you talked to him about Blanc?

  • 118 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    We can all name dozen’s of managers that we think would be better than Pardew, but the fact remains that unless Ashley can see that we need a change then we face another season of excuses and poor football.
    We have the 20th richest club in europe but have a management and coaching team straight out of Sunday league

  • 119 yo-yo // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    And finally on the manager thingy….

    Unless Mashley pays full whack for a top drawer management team and/or gives first rate performance bonuses he will only ever attract mid range quality.

    The bargain basement approach of young / approaching end of contract or undervalued player selection will not work over a five year period for a management team – he’ll get what he pays for. Anyone thinking we can pull in a top drawer proven or even up and coming coach/manager for peanuts when we’re a lower to mid ranked side… it’s another Toon daydream.

  • 120 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Yo-yo,
    It depends how you interpret big club, if you are going on success in the last forty years then Luton, Oxford and Wimbledon are bigger than us, but if you are going on the fact that we are a one club city and that city happens to be thefifth biggest in England and that we have the third largest crowd in the Premiership with one of the most iconic stadiums then I would say we’re massive.

  • 121 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Yo yo

    Utter rubbish again.

    You don’t have to pay insane amounts of money for a good manager.

    Your just making shit up now to suit your argument.

  • 122 numba9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Roberto martinez for me. He plays the game how it should be played good Spanish mentality he has done this the last few years with a squad half as good as ours and achieved what pardew has this year with us. With our players I. Think a few additions. Martinez would get the place buzzing. He is well respected good views, even Ferguson wants him at man u. Get him in and us and him won’t fight. Relegation again

  • 123 Beattie25 // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Yo

    Don’t respond to my comment as I won’t read it.

    Don’t waste your time

  • 124 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    yokgeordie – WTF!!

    Saylor has been a total ,nightmare at fault again yesterday
    and has been very lucky getting away with penalties and pull backs.

  • 125 Joe Blog // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Numba9

    Whelan is the only obstacle there, as I think Martinez would be interested; Whelan and Ashley don’t see eye-to-eye after all.

  • 126 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    @numba9

    Martinez may play nice flowing football, but he’s had Wigan involved in a relegation battle every year and seems incapable of finding a blend between good attacking football and solid defensive performances, but he’d still be a better option to Pardew who has us set up with little attacking flair and one of the worst defensive set ups in the league

  • 127 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    yo yo

    I don’t want moyes, i would much prefer a continental coach but Moyes is not as woeful as Pardew.

  • 128 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    martinez has never been backed, ie like getting in 3 full and current french internationals in january.

  • 129 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Beattie – nothing ive said about Blanc isn’t anything that hasn’t been said by himself, players hes managed or plastered across french press in the last 5 years! To be honest I go to more Ligue 1 games a season that EPL games and when it comes to french league football Blanc was always big box office to the french press!

  • 130 Billythefish // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Once the manager loses the fans there’s no hope, at the moment fans are split on Pardew, the 5th last season is whats he’s got to hold onto. If we were in this position last year he would be gone in the summer for sure.
    Personally he has to go as its the same shit every game, and he doesn’t learn.

  • 131 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Yo yo

    Have to disagree. We will never get a mourinho, ancellotti, ROTC as they have years and years of top level experience and can get huge wages at bigger clubs with more to spend.

    But a good up an coming manager like laudrupp won’t be on huge money at Swansea, certainly no more than pardew. Also in France you have 75% tax on high income (think over 50,000 euro) do that effects a lot of managers pay so we could pay then the same but they’d take home a lot more.

    Then you have managers who were highly regarded 5 years ago who are still good but no longer media darlings or flavour of the month so will be available or cheaper than the going rate.

    The financial limits on our transfers still see us spend more than your average European team, a lot of leagues are selling due to financial market currently so the fact we invest at all is a big plus compared to a lot of Spanish teams.

    Whether replacing pardew is right or wrong us up for debate, but I am sure we could get a good manager, even if he isn’t in the world class bracket.

  • 132 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    jay

    would much rather have a manager with balls who didn’t weakly pander to one player (BA) for over half a season.

  • 133 numba9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    @ jack butler I think reason Martinez has fought relegation is lack of squad and quality . With us he would have that in spades . He would get the best out these under achievers as he gets over achieves with lesser players and with some style. He wouldn’t be massive wage wise I think he would come as Whelan would lose his friendship if he stopped him

  • 134 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Think Moyes is a great manager but I think he’ll ride it out at everton waiting for a massive team to come in for him! Bug rumours are hes en route to replace Ferguson when he finally retires at man utd! Think moyes gets the best out of limited players, rarely has much to spend and doesnt buy or sell players much! Hes reign at everton has always been about stability and consistency! Id take him in a flash at toon

  • 135 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Rotonda

    Martinez is a good guy to have coaching a team but possibly not good enough to manage. Think he does struggle to get his team where they should be.

    I think he has better players than teams like Norwich, west ham, but can’t get them playing consistently.

    Not saying pardew is much better, certainly not for style, but Martinez wouldn’t take us forward in my opinion. Each to their own though.

  • 136 numba9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Martinez would delve into the Spanish market a bit like Laudrup with knowledge of the Spain leagues

  • 137 nufcursed // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    all those that are still defending pardew are idiots!
    we should fire him as soon as we’re safe!

    also the following players need to go for us to become a top team:

    -tioté (not good enough for the real top teams)
    -cabaye (not a leader)
    – williamson (technically 3rd division level)
    – simpson (not good enough)
    – obertan (useless)
    – jonas (has still not come through after 5 years)
    – coloccini (let him leave)
    – ameobi (15mins per game is more than he deserves)
    – anita (too light for the premier league)

    i think our team should be built with the following players:

    KRUL
    SANTON SAYLOR MBIWA HAIDAIRA
    PERCH OR BIGIRIMANA
    SISSOKO MARVEAUX BEN ARFA
    CISSE CAMPBELL

  • 138 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    And on yesterday’s game, thought our first half was great. Attacked and got an early goal, held their reply off for 10 mins then went back on the attack and should have had another 1-2 goals if we took our chances. Great display.

    2nd half we got deeper, only manger 2 shots and let them get at us. I understand why you go defensive, need points and afraid to be too open but by offering so little we made it too easy for west brom to focus on attack.

    Hopefully that is something out manager and players will learn from and cut it out, it happens all too often and has cost us points again.

    But first half was fantastic.

  • 139 Ginger // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Woke up expecting to feel better and I really don’t…

    I really hope Pardew gets sacked.

  • 140 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    @numba9

    As I said I think that Martinez would be a better option to Pardew but I would still with hold judgement on him until he proved himself here, but all this is academic anyway as it won’t happen as Ashley would never pay out millions in compensation that Whelen would demand.

    I’ve said for some time that I’d love to see the Lille manager, Rudi Garcia here and with the 75% tax in France I think we’ll see most top managers and players leave soon enough

  • 141 Ginger // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    @nufccursed

    Cabaye needs to go?!

  • 142 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Jay

    Moyes spends a surprising amount. Funded a lot by sales of lescott and rodwell but a lot of them players aren’t cheap.

    He does a good job but will never get a top role in my view

    Guardiola will be next man utd manager, I’d put money on that

  • 143 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    @Transfer

    We seem to be able to play for one half of every game, something thats happened all season, basically it’s nothing new and nothing seems to be being done about it

  • 144 DS_NUFC // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    surely with the money ashley spent in janurary he wont be happy with a top 10 finish!!

  • 145 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    @transfer
    We never do learn though.Its the same week in week out.High defensive line till halftime then the usual retreat to our 18 yard line and stay there.We went from dictating the play to surrendering

  • 146 nufcursed // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    @ginger

    i just think cabaye is not as good as he lets us believe…
    he’s surely not a good captain!
    and he’s a dirty player who sometimes makes nasty fouls
    a bit like tiote but with a bit more skill

  • 147 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    I still think it is a bit premature to talk about a new manager – if it should happen Pardew would get the can then we wouldn’t have a say anyway!

    But since it have been brought up would it not make sense to bring someone in who could work with what we got and would:n’t upset the balance?

    If Benny and Blanc cannot work together – that is what I hear some say – then surely Blanc is not the man for us!

    Just a thought :-)

  • 148 jayphoto // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Really interesting to see how Guardiola does at Bayern! Hardest job in football! Remember being in Munich a few years ago when Louis Van Gaal was manager, theyd just won 2-0 and were 5 points clear of Leverkusen (i think) and top of the league in december and their fans were calling in to the sports centre show calling for van gaal to be sacked and whats worse, the bayern director on the show was agreeing that they had to improve! Was most shocking thing ive seen!

  • 149 Fridge // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Dont make People beileve we had one good and one bad half yesterday. They were both equally shite! If you think otherwise then watch the match again! Some People on here Are blind or in denial! Wake up!

  • 150 jail4pardew // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Massive game for us next Saturday, it goes without saying, how will we approach it, will we go for it?

    I cant see Liverpool being overly scared at all, we can do it, we really can, but we can also not do it, which one is it going to be?????

  • 151 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Personally i don’t rate Steven Taylor, hav always thot he was overated but always thot we was dangerous and good 4 a goal or 2 from set pieces but that has gone out the window this year 2, i think we need a real good center half 2 replace collo and partner mbiwa, think debuchy wil b real good and Haidara is young and wil come good, Cabaye has 2 stay and i’d like 2 c more of Anita, also Marveaux is excellent, as much as i like Cisse he runs offside far 2 much and misses far 2 many chance but as i’ve said in earlier posts if a striker isn’t getting good supply he wont score and if he’s not scoring he’l lose confidence and when his confidence is down he’l miss chances when they come his way, the offside thing must never b addressed in training, we need a couple of strikers, i also feel sorry 4 tiote, his first season he was brilliant, i think wotever pardew is teln him 2 do is ruining him as is it with Sissoko, he was fantastic his first few games but dopey is playing out of position and he looks lost now, alot of these players would benefit under a new manager and so would the club when they go 2 sell players on

  • 152 Barras // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    There are many gifted coaches in the foreign leagues that I am quite unaware of.

    However, in regards to the coaches that I do know a little about, I would vouch for Roberto Martinez or Gianfranco Zola. Both of these managers are young, developing, and that also possess a great amount of integrity and humbleness.

    I think they would morally connect with Cabaye, Cisse, Sissoko etc. And if that is the case, it will produce a repetitive form of motivation.

  • 153 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Fridge

    First half we had 8 shots to their 2, passed it nicely and had 3 good chances to score but only converted one. We played some good stuff, really nice movement too.

    Second was poor but not sure what you didn’t like about the first. Can you explain, be good to see if I missed something.

    Jay

    It won’t be easy but he has the best team in the league and also the most money. Very safe option compared to say Chelsea he was linked with. He met with Ferguson this year so I imagine it was something along the lines of “I’ll do a couple more years, go do well then I’ll recommend you on, seem to get on those two”. But if bayern win champs league this year then there isn’t really anyway he can better a league and champs league double, they already play good football so can’t improve that….be easy to achieve but almost impossible to better this year.

  • 154 Barras // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    They not that*.

  • 155 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Wer is Dick Advocat now??

  • 156 Ginger // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    @Nufccursed

    I agree he’s over rated by the fans, but even then he’s still one hell of a player. He was instrumental the first half before Pardew ruined it all.

    Regarding your team:

    Defense: Haidara and Mbiwa are both young and extremely talented, I agree with that. Saylor is starting to bother me a bit though, it just seems like he’s ran out of ideas. Sure he puts his body on the line, but I’m not too sure about him. Debuchy is a better defender then Santon, however I prefer Santon attacking. Personally I’d rather have Debuchy there.

    Midfield:
    Perch will be completely destroyed in the middle and will complete more fouls then Tiote does. Plus, you have to take into consideration Perch knows he’s not a good passer. If you have him playing you have to have someone playing alongside him, therefore you are bringing Marveux back and Marveux should always be up the pitch. Bigi on the other hand whilst will be a top player in the future, is not ready to command a CDM position by himself.

    I agree with Marveux, Sissoko and Ben Arfa. Although I’d have Ben Arfa on the right and Sissoko on the left.

    Forwards:
    There’s nothing to say Campbell can or can’t play to a premier league level or with Cisse. I’d rather us buy a proven striker and send Campbell out on loan.

    So if I was going by your formation (Which I wouldn’t) I’d rather have this:

    KRUL
    DEBUCHY SAYLOR/SIGNING MBIWA HAIDAIRA
    CABAYE
    BENARFA MARVEAUX SISSOKO
    CISSE SIGNING

    SIGNING signifies where we need strengthened.

  • 157 remember69 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    All,
    Having been a supporter for over 40 years I can understand the frustrations when the team is not doing well., and we all seek for someone to blame because we want things to change.
    Whether AP is right for the job or not is a moot point at the moment – no other team relies on the passion of it’s supporters as much as Newcastle, and I feel we ALL need to pull together to help keep us in the EPL next season.
    I am truly concerned about the negativity and how this could affect the team if displayed or vocalized on game day.

    We, as fans have a big role to play in keeping our team up – I pray that WE don’t come up short by making efforts to demoralize the team.
    We are the best supporters in the world – let’s prove that by SUPPORTING the team and staying positive until we are safe.

  • 158 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Ginger

    Play Marveaux more left and play Cabaye in the middle, Sissoko is a defensive midfielder so he must drop back and let Cabaye play a more attacking role

  • 159 Ginger // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Personally my formation would be:

    ——————-Krul——————
    Debuchy-Saylor-Mbiwa-Haidara
    —Anita—–Cabaye——Marveux
    –Sisssoko—-Cisse——Ben-Arfa

    In a 4-3-3.

    Whilst it isn’t the most defensive formation in the world, Anita and Cabaye are decent at defending if necessary. Plus if the opposition never gets the ball (And I doubt they will with those passers in Midfield) then we won’t need to tackle.

    Sissoko and Ben-Arfa to rip through the defense, Cisse to link up play between the top three and score wonder goals… Looks a good team.

  • 160 Fridge // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Are you talking about cisses chance wich came out Of a mistake from one Of their defenders? What good chances did WE create except for the goal? We never look dangerous when we go forward. Unbelievably many incomplete passes. Noone runs without the ball to create space for pthers

  • 161 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    remeber69

    Good points.

    During the game, especially if i am there, i will cheer on players and manager as if they are the greatest we have ever had.

    On here I pass my criticism and compliments so i can discuss views without it having an impact on the field by booing etc.

    I think 99.9999% of fans here want pardew to turn it around and either prove them wrong or confirm they were correct to back him.

  • 162 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    stuart no9

    comment no 35

    no he wont sack pardew, but he could, i think sacking pardew right now is the right thing to do,

    we dont have to apoint anyone right now, but at least we can start the search for a new manager, if there not already doing so

    but having this guy there right now, is draining the life from the club

    we carnt trust a word that comes out of his mouth,

    im sure he thinks he is some sort of Jedi master, he has been performing mind tricks on so many for a long time now, telling them we are playing well, he even tried telling everyone we are a passing team, when all the stats suggested we are a long ball team,

    im only glad most fans can see him for his true self, its up over 70% on a polls on other sites

    the guy is a lucky loser, gets so many good chances in life
    f***s everyone up

  • 163 Ginger // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Patoon

    Play Marveaux more left and play Cabaye in the middle, Sissoko is a defensive midfielder so he must drop back and let Cabaye play a more attacking role

    Some of the passes Marveux plays are beautiful, best passer on the ball. To be honest I never even thought of that, so I’d rather have that. Sissoko could also go on bursting runs if he so desires. Although I’d rather have Marveux in the middle then Cabaye. Maybe if the three behind interchange throughout the match it’d work.

  • 164 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    fridge

    we made them make mistakes though. Normally we sit deep and let teams get into our half, yesterday we pressed high up and quickly and it brought a few mistakes, one which could have got a goal.

    Then there was the nice little move, think cabaye played a first time ball which cisse flicked on to sissoko who was inches away from getting on the end.

    The goal itself was well worked.

    Then there was a few where we got into good positions, cabaye had a nice volley too.

    We looked really good and defended well whilst offering something going forward, much better than normal. Don’t get me wrong there was room for improvement but it was still a good performance.

  • 165 Fridge // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    …. for others. The player that moves Get the ball. There is no patience in our game. When we win the ball we pounce on the first movement and lose it and back to defending again. And there is not enough pace on the ball when passed around, and to many touches. Its like a one man show every game. There isnt a team effort or plan to win the match.

  • 166 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    @remember69

    Whereas I agree with what you are saying, it’s bloody hard when we are being served up poor to average football every week.
    We can’t say that we have lost form as we have been playing this way all season long and have failed at every turn when we’ve had the opportunity to push away from the bottom half of the league.
    Tactically Pardew continues to make glaring mistakes that cost us every game and for most the time has come when we simply can’t take anymore. If we don’t voice our concern’s, worries, then nothing is going to change.
    We have a chancer in charge as manager who needs to go asap or this once great club will fall away again.

  • 167 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    fridge

    I’m with you there. We do not move to give many options to the man on the ball.

    And when you combine that slow build up with sitting deep it’s very difficult t get forward and create.

    I just think with the whole team playing higher up in the first half yesterday we pressed much more and made it difficult for west brom to play which meant when we won the ball we were close to goal and had more options as more players were around their box.

  • 168 Mister Tuff // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    A inspirational means of instilling confidence in a team of aspiring players is to retain faith in a player who no longer wants to play for the team (regardless of the reasons why the player wants away). Whilst the player concerned has not played for a while there was a report that he would probably be fit for the game against Liverpool. It will be interesting to see if he is played – if he does it would in my mind follow that well known best player selection process known as “The Old Pals Act”, a process that will greatly enhance the belief in the other players that progress is not based on loyalty/whether you still want to play at the club but on “non professional reasons”.
    Regardless of what a player has done in the past bad apples need to be removed from the barrel. There have been suggestions that the back injury was suspect – if that is the case- the rest of the players will know about it – this would in my opinion disgraceful and sow the seeds of discontent – a fabricated story should not be the basis of any clubs dealings – (fabricated = fabriciocated).

  • 169 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    If we want to move forward, we have to let Cabaye and Tiote go to Man Utd. We won’t progress with them in the team. They have been poor this season. Marveaux and Santon have been our best players this season.

  • 170 Yorkgeordie // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    toon 252:
    No, but I go to all the home games and watch the rest live. You will see Saylor back to his best when Colo is back alongside and taylor hasn’t got to do Mbiwa’s job as well as his own

  • 171 NUFC STEVE // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Bottom line is that pardew has had a good squad since January and we should be well safe by now but we aren’t?? Pardew has been here over 2 years and doesn’t know wat his best formation is or what type of football we play. If ashely is going to put money up in the summer I’m not sure if pardew will be in charge. Surely Laurent Blanc is worth a punt???

  • 172 Fridge // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    TS

    Ok maybe better than usual, but still not coming close to a good half????

  • 173 Transfer Sage // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    fridge

    i genuinely enjoyed the first half. I thought everything about our game from defense to attack was so much better.

    Still could do better but for a side in our form i thought it was a big improvement from the week before.

  • 174 Fridge // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Why 4 question marks when i pressed the smiley button in my comment?

  • 175 FootballPsycho // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Beattie25 @25: I agree, personally my choices are Fatih Terim, Louis van Gaal or Rafa Benitez

  • 176 FootballPsycho // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    but unfortunately 2 of them were recently put into top jobs…DAMN IT! rafa it is then haha




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