Newcastle Come Up Short At The Hawthorns


Alan Pardew was trying to be positive after the game yesterday, but most fans wanted all three points as some restitution for the humiliation we had to suffer last Sunday against Sunderland.

rob elliot saves from Long after dropping ball

Elliot makes good save from Long – after mishandling the ball

And we could have had the game put to bed at half time, if only we had players who could take some of the easy chances that were presented.

And we are really suffering from not getting Loic Remy in January, who could have got us some goals, but it now seems Liverpool are interested in him, and there’s no doubt he would have been great at Newcastle.

Bur it’s history now and it just wasn’t to be.

This is some of that Alan Pardew said after the game yesterday:

“West Brom have had some fantastic results here. We stood up well to them.” “If you have a goalkeeper who can hit the ball to the edge of the opposition box to powerful strikers, which they have, then it’s difficult.”

“The disappointing thing about the second-half is that we didn’t get hold of the ball or create a chance to get the winning goal. We were hanging on at the end, which we did well.”

And Rob Elliot had one or two dodgy moments in the game yesterday, but he still saved Newcastle with a tremendous stop from James Morrison, and a goal from Morrison would have meant defeat for Newcastle, and all hell would have broke loose yesterday, if that had happened – make no mistake.

Pardew praised his back-up goalkeeper:

“Whenever Rob’s been called upon he’s been terrific.” “He made one tiny error at the start of the second-half when the ball bobbled in front of him.

“So it took great character to be strong and solid in the second half.” “He came for all the crosses. And the save from the header was superb. He’s good at that. He can be proud of his performance.”

It was a good performance in the first half yesterday from our lads, when we looked a very decent side, but the second half was all too familiar and mediocre, and most fans wanted to see the win yesterday – and we didn’t get it.

Maybe next Saturday against Liverpool at St. James’ Park.

Hope so.

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176 comments so far

  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #1

    PPB

    Realistically where will we finish or realistically where can we finish?

    We are not just a team of nobodies that did well one season.

    I’m the team we have league winners, international stars and players that have turned down the highest level of club football to join us.

    What does aiming top 10 say to players who have a history of winning things?

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  • Grafton83

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #2

    Pardew won’t bring us back any points from Liverpool, the limit of his ability is probably that we arrive for the game on time. I think that’s the most we can hope for with his sky high expectations and incredible tactics

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #3

    Elliott looked pretty shaky to me, made some very strange decisions, but if I repeat Elliott made one tiny error over and over … more spin from Pardew.

    He must think we’re thick as shite.

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  • Patoon

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #4

    no matter wot we post on here it is all down 2 Mike Ashley, he didn’t become a billionaire by being stupid, i think Pardumb wil b gone in the summer

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  • leeb1982

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #5

    Pardew could take Barcelona down

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #6

    Think he likes there goalkeeper bet he goes in for him cos he can hoof it to the other box.

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  • cyprus

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #7

    Beattie25,
    having been around this blog for as long (longer?) than you I now know that you make emotionally charged but sensible and intelligent (oh yeah, and funny!) comments. Still, I think the Powell analogy is not correct. Didn’t he hold the world record for like three years? So, he’s not an also-run like us 🙁 , more an Arsenal

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  • Patoon

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #8

    eaststandgeordie1982

    think u could b rite, he’l prob work on this wey elliot all week and giv the other players the week off

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  • Grafton83

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #9

    PaToon I very much hope that’s the case but I think that MA is more concerned with the books balancing rather than hiring someone new and paying off Pardews contract.

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  • leeb1982

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #10

    Haha if you have a goalkeeper who can hit the edge of your area and you have 2 big strikers then it will cause you problems. We have neither yet he still tries to play that way. What a joke

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  • blew

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #11

    We should let Ashley and DL know what we think of the disasterous Pardew. Starting at the Liverpool game.
    Charlton,West Ham and Soton had enough sense to chase him before irrepairable damage was caused.
    Ashley and DL dont have that sense.
    I cant see a win in this team and fear the worst.

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  • Patoon

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #12

    Grafton83

    Although AP has an 8 year contract i don’t think MA is stupid enuf 2 giv it without clauses, maybe that he can b sacked without payour if they finish below 10th or sumthin like that, nearly sure i heard sumwer that if he gets sacked he ashley only has 2 pay 1 years wages, just hope 2 fck he goes soon

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #13

    Patoon

    I agree but he did get nufc relegated, hire useless managers and make critical errors by being naieve to the true difficulties of an industry he had no experience in.

    I hope his experience in football show through and he realises there is more money to be made from a decent manager getting the team into top 6 than a shit manager with no consistency offering nothing.

    A good brand of football is also very attractive to football enthusiasts and so it will be featured more on television and will attract more viewers.

    Who’d watch a nufc match these days? Our own fans can barely watch. The opposition will watch in their droves because we are considered a poor team, easily outplayed. Speaking world wide, fans are attracted to good football and quality play.

    Swansea are now a bigger name in Europe than nufc. People talk about their football, their manager and their quality despite their limited resources. People are interested in them, and Southampton and now the scum. Whose interested in nufc? Why would foreign fans tune in to watch football they could’ve watched in south London 30 years ago?

    Newcastle have been accused in some parts of the French press of taking some of their finest talent out of their country. What will they say if we destroy some of their finest talent we took out of their country?

    Ashley must see this? Surely he isn’t stupid as you said. But as JFA says, maybe he is cleverer than any of us give him credit for.

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  • dmac

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Pardew is MA lapdog. He does exactly as he is told and they are ‘mates’ i dont see him getting sacked.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #15

    Patoon,
    Maybe I am misreading your posts but somewhere in there you’re trying to claim that Mike Ashley knows what he’s doing with a football club.

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #16

    Cyprus

    You’re taking it too literally for gods sake.

    I was highlighting the attitude of premier athletes, even ones that are not considered the best in the world.

    If I knew anymore 100 m runners I would’ve said them, but I was thinking of runners outside the top 4 in the world.

    Some people take everything so literally they can’t understand the sentiments behind it.

    I think I’m to artistic for the blog. I try to convey similarities only to be shot down for inaccuracies when the principles remain the same?!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #17

    Beattie, when did I ever say that you fuskin wind up merchant 🙂

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #18

    Cyprus

    Sorry, on a reread that was harsh.

    But my point is not to actually compare Newcastle and Asafa Powell but to compare the mentalities of someone who could easily aim for mediocrity because he will not win the championships but actually aims as high as he possibly can get.

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  • Graeme

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #19

    The sad part is that with the new players arriving in January, we actually have a better, much more skillful squad than at any time since SBR, maybe even the “Entertainers”!!

    Turning them into the shower of sh1te currently masquerading as a NUFC football team has to be the work of some twisted ingenious mind.

    Unfortunately, the excuse of the injuries being used is disguising the fact that the Manager just does not seem able to blend the undeniable skill and ability at his disposal, into any sort of cohesive unit.

    With the addition of 3 or 4 players, in key positions, during the summer window; a good pre-season to bed the new additions into the squad, then there is absolutely NO reason why NUFC should not be challenging for a European place next season plus a decent run in the cups.

    There is just no excuse for the mediocrity of a “Top 10 place” being bandied about by Pardew. A disgraceful attitude and total lack of ambition that is just not acceptable to a Football club supposedly striving for success. If this is the limit of his expectations for next season, he should apply for the QPR job in the summer.

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  • Black and White Blood

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #20

    Dream manager? Wenger’s only got a year left and he knows how to get results on a shoestring.

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #21

    JFA

    I think it was you, perhaps not. Ha ha.

    I thought I was saying once he was stupid and you said that’s what we think. He is clever enough to want mediocrity becausee he doesn’t have to invest as much to get a mid table team and use them as a platform for sports direct.

    Maybe I dreamt it or maybe I even wrote that when I worked under the name of JFA2.

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  • Patoon

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #22

    Beattie25

    Who do u think we should bring in, i said on the blog last week about how wel PDC had done since he went 2 Sunderland and was shot down straight away by a few bloggers saying that he has only played 2 game, he has restored pride in his players and got them playin football, i said that Sunderland would prob finish above us and yesterday they beat a very good everton team 2 go above us, i would like 2 c Gus Poyet as he has his team at Brighton playing good attractive football like we want 2 c our beloved toon playing but sum people don’t want him and think we should go 4 a top european manager, wots ur thots on this

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  • Patoon

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #23

    Jail for Ashley

    all i said that was MA didn’t become a billionaire by being stupid and that Pardumb would b gone by the summer, i can’t wait 2 c the back of him and his shite football, he’s prob the reason i’m so worked up 2 be honest, hav been on the edge since last sunday lol

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  • mally72

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #24

    I agree with dmac @14 we R stuck with pardew weather we like it or not the best we can hope for is that Ashley sees some sense and brings in a good assistant to help with pardewa lack of tactical awareness a young manager who is looking for a chnce to prove himself in what is meant to be the best league in the world. Pardew will stay but im sure if help was offered to him he would take it

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #25

    Patoon

    Honestly there are so many quality young European managers out there.

    Managers like PDC and Pochettino are 10 a penny in Europe. The problem is that English managers have never left this country to manage or play as players where as a lot of European managers have played and managed in various leagues. This makes a massive difference IMO. There needs to be versatility with ability and football has changed like all major sports. Modern sports are now like an art. They are like games of chess with cultured tactics, sports science and universal experience pre requisites of success.

    Boxing used to be about knocking your opponent out. Now it’s about studying their moves, training for specific offensive attacks to exploit weaknesses and getting tactics right.

    That is top level sports in any field. Tactics are so paramount. Pardew has none.

    For me we need to look for managers in the top 8 of Spain, Italy and Germany. Top 6 of Portugal, Russia, France and Holland and top 2 of countries like Belgium, Norway, Sweden and Turkey.

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Apr 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #26

    watched the game yesterday and i got to say what a abysmal performance second half, what the hell was Pardew thinking sitting deep on a 1-0 lead, does he even know football these days ffs man wake up.

    oh does any1 know what his excuses where, don’t tell me players where tired again?

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  • Patoon

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #27

    After the damage that AP has done with the players’ confidence at this club and think we’d also need a sports psychologist as wel as a new manager, Jim McGuinness in 4 me

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  • do the hatem shake

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #28

    pardew is tactically retarded tbf he does it all the time he sits deep when we have the first half in the lead like against villa away we sat deep all half 2 nil up what was he thinking we just play to to defense with him we have better attackers then defenders so lets attack and be the entertainers we once where

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #29

    Patoon,
    What winds me up is people sticking to the mantra of how well we are run these days, does three relegation battles and the worst football on record smell of being well run.

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  • Guj NUFC

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #30

    Are people starting planning ‘Pardew Out’ banners for saturday already? Wow- I seriously hope you do, and then we go on to stuff Liverpool.

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  • stuart no9

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #31

    blew@11—agree totally, and just ignore the comments that are sure to follow suggesting we will be letting the team down-we wont, we will be doing them a huge favour, and the club, in that we wont lose our players in summer when a ” time served” manager is appointed

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  • Beattie25

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #32

    Potential Managers in Spain:

    Philippe Montanier – Sociedad
    Ernesto Valverde Tejedor – Valencia
    Marcelo Bielsa – Bilboa
    Juan Ignacio Martínez – Levante
    Aitor Karanka – Real Madrid Assistant Manager
    Jordi Roura – Barca Assistant Manager
    Germán Burgos – Athletico Madrid Assisntant Manager

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  • catchy in norway

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #33

    we are not stuck with anyone,

    we do have a say

    stop being a sheep and use your big boys voice,

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  • Guj NUFC

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #34

    Catchy you think we will get rid of Pardew with 4 games to go?

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  • catchy in norway

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #35

    no, but we could

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  • beefman13

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #36

    Every single game this season when we have been in the lead, our tactics change, we let other teams in to the game and we try to hang on for dear life, on the other hand when we go behind we start to play some decent football, we can play good stuff we can create chances, you could tell Pardew was well happy with the point yesterday, that’s what he came for, we could of had it wrapped up by halftime, but even so push on for that second goal, we did not of course and an avalanche of corners free kicks followed in another squeaky bum second half for us.

    Teams do know for sure how we are going to play if we take a lead, every game we have left is tricky to say the least, will we scrape by, god willing hopefully, but Pardew has made this for me the worst season to watch NUFC since the very start of the nineties, I have been that frustrated and disappointed with the man, he has been given the bullets to fire, even though it should have been earlier, but in plenty of time, we have endured 18 defeats, the poorest set plays and corners I have ever seen from any team anywhere in my memory as a fan, I cant put any stronger than that.

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  • catchy in norway

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #37

    carver , stone beardo can do no worsre for the last matches,

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #38

    It is not uncommon for somebodyy to claim something in a post then being proved wrong, I said that SD would be our shirt sponsors before virgin took over and that Danny Graham would be signed before Cisse joined us, however I was ridiculed for suggesting that our efforts in the transfer market last was a smokescreen to keep fans onside until after January when Dirk Llambias admitted that it was a well thought out plan that we had enough in the squad to finish in the top ten.Liars.

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  • catchy in norway

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #39

    i fearblosing our good players now if he stays, the right gut could do wonders with them

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  • Guj NUFC

    Apr 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #40

    Would be silly to get rid of your manager now tbh. Even though I think he will get sacked in the summer- we have to get behind him and the team for the remainder of the games. Ashley won’t sack him- yet.

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