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Pardew – We Can Finish Top Ten Next Season – What?

2:53 am, Sunday, April 21st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 109 Comments

Alan Pardew said he was happy with the performance against West Brom yesterday, and said after the game that he thought Newcastle showed exactly what the team needed to show, without getting the three points

yona gouffran scores west brom

Gouffran celebrates with Haidara after scoring

This is what Alan said immediately after the game:

“I’m really pleased with a point, it is important at this stage of the season. ” “We have got four games to go and I don’t really care where we finish in the league as long as we are in the league”

“You need to make sure you secure the points and don’t rely on other people not getting them.” “It is very important now we keep battling to the end.”

“The club is in a great financial position, we have good players and if we have them all fit, we are stronger than we were today.”

“Therefore, I would expect us to challenge for top 10 next season but we have got to stay in the division.” “The energy levels we had on Sunday were not good enough to cope with that Sunderland performance.”

“We needed to show today, after we get some rest, that we ain’t a bad team.” “The overall feeling is we have shown exactly what we needed to show today without getting the three points.”

Maybe it was all due to Europe,  but the truth is that our Premier League campaign this season  has been a disaster – fact.

So we’re not sure too many fans would be happy at only a top ten finish next season, after finishing 5th last term  – how about top six?

Note to Mike Ashley – please have your manager Pardew be a lot  more ambitious for next season  – after all we are the 20th most valuable football club in the world – according to Forbes magazine.

Newcastle  are still fighting the drop, that’s very true, so the actual results are all important in these final few games of the season.

Maybe I’m the only one, but I would rather have seen us win any way we could yesterday – and not play so well, rather than draw and play well.

It’s all about results – isn’t it? :(

What do you think?

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109 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JAMSHA // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:01 AM

    We Can Finish Top 10 Only IF U GO AWAY PARDEW. Or Else Its Another Relegation Season With U, Nxt Season

    GN

  • 2 p // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:03 AM

    Well I saw the last 20 and it was appalling.

    Basic stuff like passing and ball control were beyond the likes of Sissoko etc.

    Hope they are better next weekend, that’s for sure

  • 3 tunearmy // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:11 AM

    The difference between Parcel Pardew and PDC are balls.
    Hitler only had one ball, PDC acts like a giant testicle and Pardew has none.
    Absolute B****cks

  • 4 Blofal // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:20 AM

    Ed sounds like you are finally coming on board! Pardew is a passenger in my opinion. I sincerely hope Ashley is looking for a new manager. Pardew has done nothing that Hughton couldn’t have done. In fact I think Hughton would have done slightly better.

    We have better players than a top 10 finish aspires to. We should aspire to top 6 keep going till we get there.

  • 5 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

    what planet is he on? happy with todays performance? What I saw of it was predictable and at times very poor. Perhaps we will finish in top ten if we get rid of him and appoint Harry candlechops.

  • 6 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:47 AM

    Chilling comment, suggests not just a lack of ambition in the manager, but also the ownership.

    Are we being set up for a quiet close season in the transfer market or even the loss of some key players?

    Or just another ill considered Pards moment?

  • 7 AMEOBI // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:52 AM

    @5
    Appointing Harry would be a mile worse than Pardew.. Harry can’t do nothing unless he’s got millions to spend. I’m behind pardew still..

  • 8 tunearmy // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:08 AM

    What were the ‘odds’ of finishing bottom 5 after finishing top 5?

    Has Ashley put a spare few million on this.
    Has he bunged Tiote to be a liability this season.
    Has Cisse been told to be offside and chip balls over or round the net (stoppage time is a loophole obviously)
    Is Pardew ordered to play Jonarse every bloody game.

    He wont loose money as the fans are mental and mad and loyal.

    ok lads just scrape by.

  • 9 Widowmaker // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:49 AM

    I think It’s time up for Pardew. Top 10 with this squad is just not good enough. Yes, top six is a push as there are more established teams, but why Aiming low? Disappointing

  • 10 sphinxhunter // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:53 AM

    You are absolutely correct, at this time of the season, given the position NUFC is in, results are the ONLY thing that matters. Entertaining, quality football is only for those teams who are comfortably safe (ie have or are close to 40 pts by the mid-season mark).
    I also am surprised by AP’s selections and substitutions, many of which suggest a negative or defensive trend. It makes me think that AP doesn’t trust his current defensive players to cope without the midfielders and wingers to double back and help out, nor trust his attacking players to be able to kill off the game by converting their chances. Sounds just like this season, doesn’t it! Maybe with more purple players and less injuries, we may be able to see the creative, positive, attacking side of AP.
    The ‘tiredness’ of many of the players bothers me. I can’t help thinking that if there was more genuine competition for their spots, and a greater preparedness by AP to drop non-performers, then they may discover that they CAN find that little bit extra. Its not so much that they are not putting in at all, but that they are not putting in more than the players in the opposition team are – they are not lazy, just ordinary.

  • 11 toonicle // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:54 AM

    Top 10 Alan, really? We should be going for a Euro spot at least and the fact that Pards isn’t even shooting for that is depressing.

  • 12 Jayk // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:55 AM

    get rid of this kackass already.

    @3: That is a myth, Hitler had two balls. Don’t slander a great man.

  • 13 ochytoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 4:58 AM

    I think Pard’s has to go at the end of the season. A couple of days ago I was thinking, give him one more season but after todays performance, and where that puts us in the table, there isn’t another option. It’s almost embarrassing to be a Toon fan this season and I would have to say that most of the blame for our failure is down to Pardew and his useless, one-dimensional tactics. The guy has to go and I’m sure we wouldn’t be that hard pushed to find a suitable successor.

  • 14 tunearmy // Apr 21, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    the first 10 minutes the team played naturally and were having fun and it was great to watch.
    But then disaster struck as we scored and pardew panicked.
    But the first 10 min showed what they can do.

  • 15 Jarra // Apr 21, 2013 at 5:44 AM

    I am fortunate to see every match live and once again I sat and hoped we would respond to the serious situation the club is in. The first half was a really good determined display we played well up the field and attacked down both flanks. Then we scored brilliant. You would expect a team playing at home to respond and they did but we assisted that by suddenly dropping ten meters further back. We got to half time leading after escaping a decision that baffles everyone I did not think Perch fouled the lad but it was well inside the box so we got away with what should have been a penalty if the Ref deemed it a foul. Second half becomes as predictable as ever sit back hold on and see the game out, with what tactics I really do not know. We did not defend as a team we just seemed to be dysfunctional no pattern style to even try and counter attack. They score as you know so he takes off an attacking option of Gouffron who can counter attack with pace and puts Ameobi to stand on the half way line face towards our own goal and try and keep the ball if he gets it, or get a foul to ease the pressure. He then once again makes a tactical switch can see the pressure building and brings Ben Arfa on and too everyone’s amazement takes the young full back off. This really puzzled me especially when he made comment last week saying in hindsight he should of played the full back against Sunderland and not Jonas. We got a point which we needed and if honest I would accept that. What I can not accept any more are his tactics but its too late now he has to stay till the end unless someone has already be tapped up to replace him the same day he is dismissed. Its a mess and I think I read 4 points from the last 5 matches is serious proof of concern. Can we limp up and over the 40 points. I honestly do not know and dread the thought if we do not.

  • 16 davis_toons // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:11 AM

    Pardew is putting himself at a risky position when he says top 10.

    This words will secure him to next season but will put himself into a bigger trouble next season if he can’t attain it.

    Unless there are lotss of “excuse” for him to take cover. eg. Again New alots of 1st team players coming in to settle, lots of usual injury…. etc, FA Cup, Carling Cup run of gamesssss…

  • 17 davis_toons // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:26 AM

    one-dimensional tactics..will make our player slot hard and for very little results. And sooner our players will be tired of such tactics and will not be enjoying playing football.

    Once they got bored of such football style, we will again not win games when we needed to.

    To win games, player must also enjoy in playing them. They pass around, joke around and enjoy destroying opposition teams together. That the way to go far.

    Theres No Team in the world play “bad football”, win consistent games and win trophies.

    Name me one if you know,
    apart from Stoke (have some success if you rate them), which “they are what they are” build in such a way, play in their own approach.

  • 18 Spuggy // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:28 AM

    We will finish top ten no problem. In the championship.

  • 19 terencelim // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:47 AM

    Newcastle has one of the best fan base in the world, and top 20 richest club.

    Why would Newcastle want to finish in top 10? We’ve already done that many times under Freddie…

  • 20 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:49 AM

    Fascist alert at 12. Should you not be supporting another PL team?

    On the game: Great first half, bad second. Why? Should they not be able to put in a full throttle 90′ shift like most PL teams? Having said that, can’t fault their effort.

    Keeper 6: A couple decent saves, but highly suspect on crosses.
    Debuchy 8: Excellent game, all round
    Taylor 7: Not bad
    Mbiwa 9: Apart from 1 bad back pass, had a perfect game, kept us safe.
    Haidara 7: Good game, combined well with Guti
    Perch 5: Tries, but should only be a squad player if we expect more next year. Conceded a dumb pen
    Caby 7: Tried to find the through pass, helped us dominate the 1st half.
    Guti 7: Have no idea why some fans pick on him. Had a decent game, put in the shift
    Gouffran 8: Very good game, great goal. He needs more, in order to help that goal tally. Should not have been subbed.
    Sissoko 8: Some people criticizing him but he does what he does quite well. Him, Gouffy and Cisse gave their MF’s a torrid time, albeit in the 1st half.
    Cisse 7: Not a bad game really, run at least 10 k, tried, BUT… should have scored a sitter, if only he had stopped to think and see what was there. I know I could’ ve scored that!
    Ameobi (no score): The guy is big, has some skills, but you know he’s not going to score, don’t you? Good loyal squad player, not sure how long the slayer label will keep him with a PL job
    Ben Arfa (no score): had a couple of decent chances, but didn’t have opportunity to get in the game. We need a fit HBA if we are to scare other teams.

    On AP criticism. He had a good game plan 1st half with their 4-4-2, struggled with their 4-3-3. Shouldn’t have subbed Goufy for Shola. Still, I don’t blame him. Our team just needs to up its fitness training. How come other teams can go full throttle for 70+ minutes?

    This point will be pure gold come the end of the season! Who’s going down? Wigan.

  • 21 davis_toons // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:50 AM

    We truly have the qualities to compete with some of those teams, like Wigan, WBA, Swansea, Soton, Norwich, Hull, Cardiff, etc

    (Not mention, Fulham, Everton, *Sunderland, )

    When i name Swansea, i kind of worried, they are such a prestige club nowadays.

    Will the promoted club like Cardiff and Hull and XXX, overrun us?, Should be worrying of Cardiff, they are no runover.

    Losing these games…
    Then Pardew will comes in with lots of excuse again.
    ..player is tired after Cups runs, injury of 1 or 2 key players (our backup is good enough, btw), they are too strong for us, etc

  • 22 geordie_upon_tyne // Apr 21, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    GONE FISHING

  • 23 davis_toons // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:01 AM

    How will be fair against the promoted teams is a question?

    Will we be beaten by Soton, WBA, Westham, Stoke and Cardiff

    Draw, Hull, Norwich, and some promoted team.

    We no longer any power house. We are just as ordinary as Stoke, Westham, WBA, Norwich, Soton.

    Its only we can beat these teams then can we survive and be safe of worrying.

    The only hope was to watch and have individual players coming out each week to giving their Special Moments, to add to the odd special goal.

    With the best ingredient in the world, you need a good cook.

  • 24 davis_toons // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:04 AM

    @ 20, How come other teams can go full throttle for 70+ minutes?

    Simple, : because the players enjoys playing what they are ask to.

    Read @17 for more details.

  • 25 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    i believe that if any of the top 4 managers had our team , they would be challanging for for things, never mind trying to just finnish top 10

    i look at our team, not just through black and white specks v man u’s, and i wouldnt swap many of there players for ours
    RVP , carrick, vidic , other than them 3 there a very average team, yet i recon krul, debuchy, colo, santon sissoko, cabaye would be regular starters in there team

    ppl talk about pardew being a great man manager, well i have seen very little of that during his time here so far, treating our promising kids like shit, let alone marv and anita,
    shola jonas are total jokes of footballers now, and its a shame for jonas, because he was once a fan fave,

    with pardew at our club, we will NEVER have stability,

  • 26 JackButler // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    “The club is in a great financial position, we have good players and if we have them all fit, we are stronger than we were today.”

    “Therefore, I would expect us to challenge for top 10 next season”
    —————————————————————————

    And some people are still wondering why we want rid of this idiot.

    With a better manager in charge we would have been safely inside the top 10 this bloody season.

    For God’s sake Mr. Ashley, cut this man lose and employ someone who knows what he;s doing

  • 27 valle // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Already spinning and managing expectations for next season makes it sound like the man have already giving up fighting for that top 6 which were our target not so long ago… You have lost another supporter in me AP and you now need to go in my opinion. I can deal with an off season that have been draining, but that negative tactics and the excuses I cannot, and if our 2nd half against Benfica didnt show him how much more dangerous and controlling we can be with the players we have, if we play attacking football, then im afraid nothing will.

  • 28 toonheroes // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    With comments like that i don’t care if we win every remaining game this season, I still want him out. he has let us down badly the arrogant self worshiping idiot.

  • 29 spitfire_ // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:42 AM

    Pardew in last mid april: “We are not one season wonder”
    Pardew on sept 1st: “I’m happy with the tranfers, we can attack the CL places”
    Pardew couple of weeks back: “We can finish in top10″
    Pardew today: “I don’t care where we will finish… and top10 are our aim for next season”

  • 30 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:55 AM

    I was among the first to criticize AP’s tactics and statements, but now I refuse to climb on this swelling wave, especially since a lot of people (only a few weeks ago) were saying ‘look, manager of the year, we finished 5th etc.’…

    So, one good year, one bad. Keep AP for one more year. If we have a similarly bad year, fire him.

  • 31 check the toastie // Apr 21, 2013 at 7:56 AM

    Pardew has no redeeming features at all, we are a club going downhill fast as long as he stays. We need a new manager NOW.

    Having no manager would be better than this loser. Let Carver and Stone take the reigns for the last 4 games, Sack Pardew now before he gives Shola a new 2 year contract. pffffffffttttttttttttt.

  • 32 check the toastie // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    Our league position last year was false and based on incredible acts of individual brilliance. It had nothing to do with Parsnip, we were outplayed so many times last year and Pardew is lucky he has been supplied by Graham Carr a squad that has so many top4 players in.

    We would have 10 points if he had Wigan’s, Norwich’s, Villa’s, Scum’s squad to pick from. The man’s a clown and is so out of his depth its unbelievable.

  • 33 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    Check, you have been among the early critics, like me you pinpointed our lucky position last year when others couldn’t see it. So, I dig you. Still, stand by #30, unless there’s a big “R” this season.

  • 34 RonVanDam // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Looking at the league table, teams between 11th – 18th, anybody can get relegated. The next two games will separate who will survive and who will be in a relegation scrap.

    I think that caught my eye was how bad our defence is, we’ve leaked 60 goals, second worst equal with A Villa and Wigan, Reading has 65.
    To me it feels we will survive but just. Something tells me we will have the same number of points as the 18th placed team but edge out on better goal difference. I really hope it doesnt come to that.

  • 35 wreker16 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    Ed, i would rather us play well at all

  • 36 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    its amazing , but everything pardew says is wrong. his postmatch interviews – are wrong – his ambiitons for the club – are wrong – then when he tells he thinks we want to hear – that is wrong , i have never known 1 person be so wrong . wow.

  • 37 RonVanDam // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    @ check the toastie

    I completely agree with you. The game that painfully sticks out from last season was the game against Swansea. We took a beating for 3/4 of the match and Cisse scored two brilliant goals out of nothing

  • 38 tweaked // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    time for a non english manager, someone that can get the best out of benny, cabaye, sissoko

    AP plays to many crap tactics which i clearly dont understand with the amount of quality footballers at his disposal

    plesae let it be wenge, rijkaard, blanc or even benitez

  • 39 JDdubai // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Well with ambitions like that why would any purple come to us?

    With the players we have, plus the alleged 3 new purples to come, with no european games, how the heck are we not aiming for top 6??????

    Only thing negative for us is the tactics. Add a purple manager OR purple coaching team to what we have and top 6 should be minimum aim. Not saying we will get it but the aim should be there.

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    I’m f****n lost for words.

  • 41 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    I’m lost for words.

  • 42 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    why is a club that is top 20 richest in the world, and a club with the sixth biggest fan base in the country, and such a good group of players, struggling to stay in the league. ALAN PARDEW is why. I really hope he starts to rethink his tactics. Sticking with the same formations and same players is predictable and no wonder we lose. Added to that Papiss is ten times the player when he’s competing for a place. Just look at what he did when he first signed, so hopefully two strikers will settle that. Caroll and Aubemeyang would make for a good set of strikers and give good options. Then at least we have the option of playing more than one striker. Shola isn’t cut for this league anymore and another season on, god i hope we don’t have to rely on shola next season.

  • 43 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    He had to get injuries in there he did it without saying it hate this prick pardumb the backwards man we could of easily went 3-1 down yesterday and hes happy what a complete tosser

  • 44 bills-son // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    Finishing in the top 10 means anywhere from 10th to champions….

    The Pardew criticism is getting ridiculous.

    Have any of you thought that our top players might not be as good as we believe?

  • 45 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    Ed can you take pardumb off the banner please his face makes me angry.

  • 46 JDdubai // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Bills-son, then why not say we can challenge the top 6?? That shows more accurately what the aims are, saying top 10 is horrendously negative.

    So he will be happy to be 9th or 10th next season then right? As they are in the top 10, would you be happy for us to finish 9th next season and Pards to turn round and say ” im happy with that, we aimed to challenge the top 10 and we did it!!”

  • 47 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    Bills, keep keeping the faith, it certainly looks like last year was a freak and now Ashley is preparing us for firmly where he wants us.

  • 48 Mag.no // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    eaststandgeordie

    Hate is a strong word, but i’m actually with you on this.

  • 49 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    I think if we stay up the banner needs a picture of whichever team finishes 18th’s manager. Because if we do stay up, it won’t be down to Pardumb, it’ll be down to the team that finishes below us. So at the minute Martinez’ face on the banner next season.

  • 50 firebug666 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Last season we finished 5th using a 4-3-3 system, this season we fight relegation with his 4-2-3-1 system, I think we should go back to using the 4-3-3 allowing us to attack more. Last season with this system our defence was week, but we have much better defenders now, and our flair player really need to be more advanced and not played in front of the defence.

  • 51 Joe Blog // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Venal Pardew eff-off!

    The quotes Spitfire has pulled out, show the man for what he is, a desperate chancer who has a thin veil of competence, that is finally being sussed by the masses. I’m sure the players also cottoned on a while back, obviously some time before it came to a head and Colo/Ba purportedly expressed their displeasure at his ‘guidance’ and ‘style’.

  • 52 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    @41,
    Sticking with the same players?? Stats say he has used the MOST players out of any team in the PL. Like I said, I was among the first critics (i.e. after our first 10 undefeated games last year!), but let’s justify what we say.

  • 53 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    Good point @43, just for a little balance…

  • 54 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    Actually sod it sack pardew and actually hire martinez if they go down. It would be an improvement. I think Alan Shearer next season would be an improvement, or KK, or Paul Gascgoine, or my dog jack would be an improvement, maybe even one of his turds.

  • 55 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    The guy’s a loser … his stats stink.

    He just annoys the f~~~ out of me.
    He’s clearly out of his depth.

    I can’t take any more PARDEW.
    His football is negative and boring.

  • 56 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Mike Ashley could not predict our dire season nor did he anticipate our success last year, the reason he brouggt in the silver tongued glazier was to sell a load of lies and keep us in the Premiership.

  • 57 davis_toons // Apr 21, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    “or my dog jack would be an improvement, maybe even one of his turds.”

    ..omg

  • 58 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    I’ve had enough of the fckn charade and lies and bullshit coming out of that guys mouth.

  • 59 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    @ 51 whatever stats you follow are obviously wrong, I’m not having for a second that we’ve used more players than QPR in the league. In almost every position they have had more players in that spot. They’ve had countless transfers and loan players.

  • 60 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    maybe i went a bit far getting my dog involved. But the guy either has to go or start thinking about changing things when they’re not working.

  • 61 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Can you imagine the bollocking Pards got for finishing fifth last year and raising our expectations, he has redeemed himself in our owners eyes in a spectacular way.

  • 62 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    imagine … DiCanio doing his celebrations and the camera pans back and there’s a big pile of steaming turd in our technical area …

    … oh that did happen.

    Sack the twat. Should have gone after our third disgraceful FA Cup exit thanks to Pardew.

  • 63 check the toastie // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    bills – ‘maybe our players arent as good as you think’. You mean all the players who are actually being picked for their national sides, and when they are play at a much higher level.

    The reason they dont look so good in our colours is because they are being shackled by retarded tactics and defensive coaching. Open your eyes man, will you be happy when we go down.

    We didnt struggle like this under managers such as Roeder and Souness, who had to carry players like Bramble, Ramage and the like, Pardew is shit, the worst the club has ever had, JFK got more out of his squad than this clown.

  • 64 tunearmy // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    toastie @63 – TRUTH!

  • 65 tunearmy // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    As my gran would say ‘should be bloody shot’

  • 66 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    No need to apologise geordiejamie, for one of the all time greatest lines in the history of the blog, in fact kudos to you!

  • 67 BigKirky // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    ” imagine … DiCanio doing his celebrations and the camera pans back and there’s a big pile of steaming turd in our technical area …… oh that did happen”

    Haha

  • 68 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    bills @ 44 and which players may they be, who you think perhaps arnt good enough????

  • 69 bills-son // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Is Pardew responsible for the playerx not being able to accurately pass the ball?

    Sissoko has hardly put a pass right in the ladt six matches and most of the others aren’t much better.

    I’m no Pardew lover I just dont view things through hate tinited glasses. Pardew could have done better but so could the players – if Cisse had stuck that simple chance away we would have been almost safe from relegation. Cisse misses the chance and Pardew gets hammered.

  • 70 check the toastie // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    IF we do Stay up, and thats a big IF, hopefully this end of the season charade will leave Big Mike with no option but to sack the useless charlatan. If he doesnt then expect an mass exudus of purples. Cabaye, Santon, Collocini, Benny, Anita, Tiote all on the move.

    If Pardew does stay we need Andy Carroll back, and we might as well re-sign Nolan and get shot of our technical footballers, get a new scout in, maybe Stoke’s Chief Scout as carr is wasting his time, no point in signing quality when the manager has no idea in how to get the best out of them.

    The whole thing is Fuc##d Up.

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    The 3-1 win on his debut bought Pards a lot of time, luckily the FA cup doesnt carry as much weight these days or the 3-1 loss against Stevenage would have had the mackems harping on for years, how on earth he managed to get us fifth last years beggars belief with some of the tripe he served up, (QPR, Villa, Norwich), I now believe Pardew is in cahoots with the the lies that are being dished out to the countries most loyal and passionate fans.

  • 72 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    bills@69 yes he is responsible – HE FU..ING BOUGHT THEM! WHY DID HE BUY SHIT PLAYERS AND LEFT US WITH NO CF, ffs bills can you not see that, so who do you blame for buying our players who cant even pass a ball ?

  • 73 bills-son // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Stuart – are you saying the only reason why we are facing relegation is down to Pardew mismanaging the players? Nothing to do with the ability of the players to win a game?

    Because I dont think so.

  • 74 check the toastie // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Sissoko is a super footballer, the Chelsea game proved that, its funny how hes gone backwards since Parsnip got his hands on him. Same applies for Gouffran and Debuchy.

  • 75 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Bills,
    You’re as gutted as I am with our predicament and who can we blame.

  • 76 Bettersford // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    I think Average Pardew is taking the p**s. To aim to be in top ten next season clearly shows lack of ambition. Statements like that is basically telling fans not to expect too much and look forward to an average season.

  • 77 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Bills

    What if long put that ball away from elliots mistake or the ref pointed to the spot?? If that header didnt hit the bar, 2 of those chances came from us just sitting back in the second half so it could of been 4-2, yes cisse should of scored but we should not roll over for the whole second half and let them come at us should we???

  • 78 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Ashley, Llambias, Pardew out.

  • 79 BigKirky // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Thing is, Pardew is so arrogant that even with some of the nonsense he comes out with, he can still look confident when speaking, like it’s under control, whether he knows he’s lying or not.

    For those who have watched the game though, you know that something is hugely amiss. The contrast between the first half yesterday was quite astounding. Cabaye was a bit higher up the pitch, he even got a couple of shots in, which is where u want him to be. Second half it was noticeable we were just trying to hang on as the gap between Cisse and the rest was ever increasing.

    It’s so frustrating with what those players can do when they are shown to attack the opposition, compared to when they sit back. (see 1st half then 2nd half yesterday).

    If Pardew managed Man Utd he would do the same there, I I believe our midfield is actually better than theirs, as is Debuchy at right back. Man Utd would drop like a stone if he was there. Of course, they would be tired from their Champions League exertions :-\

    It’s unacceptable to be as cautious as Pardew is with the calibre of player which we have now. It’s worrying, and doesn’t give those players any confidence either. It’s like saying, right I don’t believe you’re good enough to go on and win so we’re going to try and hang on to a lead. We’ve seen it numerous times. Probably almost everytime we go ahead in fact.

  • 80 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    bills son
    you can’t have it both ways. you said carr had scouted us some great players courtesy of ashley.

    Alan Pardew: We have the players to push on and succeed next year

    yes the players, not the manager. imagine another 8 years of this!

  • 81 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    bills@73 – if the players havnt got ability- he shoulnt have bought them .so not only are his tactics all over the place , he cant get his international players performing , also if he cant motivate his players for a derby 6 pointer , then i;ll say what i said nearly 3 years ago . pardew is sh/t and we will only go one way – i have been proved right

  • 82 bills-son // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Jail, of course I’m gutted, plus [as I keep saying] I dont think Pardew is a great manager, but he isn’t a shit one either.

    We’ve had a horrendous injury list, the young lads weren’t good enough and the same team has hardly played even since the signings in January. That is a fact.

    There is absolutely no evidence that Pardew does not have the confudence of the squad which means that our inability to win games is not down solely to him.

    Sometimes shit happens and I’ll reserve my judgement on Pardew until six games into next season. We can’t possibly have the same injuries next season.

  • 83 Joe Blog // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    BigKirky

    Yup. The misplaced passes, I think, are oft down to the players instincts to attack been at loggerheads with Pardew’s negative approach and instruction, it breeds indecisiveness and hesitation, players constantly second-guessing their intuition.

    Get rid of Vamp Pardew and his talent draining methods.

  • 84 hotdog // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Morning fellas! Some good points from bills-son and eastend and that’s where I am at really. Stuck in between. I’ve backed pardew but you have got to question our horrendous league position and the biggest question. Sissoko looked quality when we bought him and looks like he couldn’t get a game for Gateshead. Now whether that is the player himself or the pardew/coaching effect, one thing is certain if we can’t improve players they should not be in the job

  • 85 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    bills — even you are talking about injuries now. – comes from listening to the manager to much- , but tou know the old saying–say something long enough and youll end up believing it yourself – i think its called brainwashing.

  • 86 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    geordiejamie89,
    Actually haven’t counted how many players we (or QPR or anyone else) have used! Just that, yesterday, the commentator (Trevor Francis and another dude) stated (with numbers that I forget) that we had used the MOST players out of all PL teams and the opposition had used the least.

  • 87 BigKirky // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Getting players to pass the ball correctly is the fundamentals of coaching and management which you learn from an early age. I did sports coaching at University. It’s the ability to improve a situation through correct demonstration, communication and application.

    A lot of the players which we have are international class players, who can pass the ball (the youth coaching in France is based round smaller pitches smaller matches and better passing!), they are professional footballers(!) but when they are asked to play in certain systems which they are unfamiliar and alien to it can cause problems. This is a lot to do with the manager. Whichever way the players are performing it is up to the coach to sustain or change the form of the players.

    If they are playing badly as a team, then the coach must demonstrate how this can be improved so that in an instant on matchday they know exactly how to respond to the opposition at any time.

    We know what Pardew does. He brings on Strolla and goes direct. That can work, and has worked, but there should be better tweaks to the intial team, not just bring Shola on pump the ball forward and hope for the best, in my opinion.

  • 88 bills-son // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    East stand – you could say West Brom shouldn’t have lets us dominate them at home in the first half. Works both ways.

    I understand fans wanting Pardew out – I just don’t think he is a shit manager and there is no guarantee that another manager would be better. Unless we get Jose :-)

  • 89 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Bills,
    As you will know I am not a football tactician and do not read the game as well as some on here, but when I heard on the radio that Haidara was coming off and Jonas slotting into LB I was as dumfounded as John Anderson who echoed my thoughts.

  • 90 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    hotdog @84 – regarding sissoko, – pardew bought him so he must take full responsibility, and if he isnt performing , why?

  • 91 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    @Bills-Son

    Pardew has clearly “lost” a huge number of fans.
    Hard to judge whether its a majority in the real world but on here more posters seem to think his time is up than not.

    That isn’t good for the club, it can end up being toxic if the terraces turn on him.

    Get rid after the last game, lets have a breath of fresh air through the club.

    Llambias out first. Footballing MD in.
    Recruit and properly interview for a new manager before preseason.

  • 92 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    I can honestly say that i could see what was coming second half yesterday and i think steve clarke did thats why he changed to go more attacking and pardumb did not have a clue what to do.

  • 93 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Can anybody tell me why, after a relegation dogfight, us aiming for top 10 lacks ambition?
    If he said “we’re aiming for a European spot and possibly a cup” you’d be calling him deluded.
    so, seriously after a season like this where do you think our aspirations should lie?

  • 94 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    FFS this is an absolute joke, if u look at the table we’re about 5 or 6 points from a top 10 finish so who in rite frame of mind would b happy with fininshin 5 or 6 points better next season, we hav been shite all season due 2 Pardew, he has 2 go, we hav as good a squad as everton or spurs now (excluding Bale) we should def b challanging for top 6 as wel as playing in the europa league every year, PARDEW OUT PARDEW OUT

  • 95 23nufcAD // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    We cant just now keep relying on the players we have got if we are to mount and attack on the top 6-4 we need quality players still in summer even with the players we have just got we are still getting problems with injuries, fitness and form next season I want us to finish in a champions league spot and actually start beating other teams with a clean sheat we need to sign around six players in summer and purge the team of bad players like this

    ins
    REMY
    AUBAMEYANG
    TOULANAN
    BALDE
    SAKHO
    DOUGLAS
    DE JONG

    OUT
    SIMPSON
    COLOCINNI
    OBERTAN
    WILLIAMSON
    GOSLING
    AMALFITANO
    FERGUSON
    Its only right that we spend loads as ashley is worth other 2billion so he could sing CR7 and Messi and Falcao for us.

  • 96 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Bills

    We were on top of them and we should start the second half they way we played the first and go for the kill for a change is that to much to ask?

  • 97 23nufcAD // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    tell me what yous think?

  • 98 cyprus // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Jail,
    HBA for Haidara (while Jonas slotting back in a position he knows) can be seen as a positive attacking-minded move, so that’s fine. Keegan and SBR would throw in 3 forwards with 10 minutes remaining, resulting in cool onslaughts (and sometimes defeats :)

    What was wrong in my mind was taking off sharp, fast Goufy for big, slow, zero-chance-to score Shola.

  • 99 hotdog // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Stuart- that’s the dilemma, is he taking time to settle in, I just don’t know

    Bigkirky- good points but mbiwa was great defending yesterday but his distribution was woeful. Twice he played the ball down the channel with no Newcastle player within 40 yards of it.

    Got to go lads I’m sure this one will rumble on for a while :-)

  • 100 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    PPB,
    The guy is a trained liar and he firmly believes that we we will believe anything he tells us, trust me !

  • 101 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 21, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    @94 that is true this season but every season is different. I’d say finishing 7-10 is about where we should aim Next season. It 7 to 10 places higher than we are now!

  • 102 Patoon // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Puppet Pardew’s Brainlessness

    7-10 is wer we should hav been this year, with bein hit with injuries and losing demba ba but we signed 5 players in jan and if pardumb had done his job properly we’d b pusing for that position but he hasn’t and we’re fighting relegation, wot would david moyes not hav done with his team if he’d signed 5 players in jan

  • 103 stuart no9 // Apr 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    puppet pardew @101—–why not aim to win the prem??

  • 104 geordiejamie89 // Apr 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    @86 well he was wrong i checked bbc’s page

  • 105 rfcready // Apr 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Does anyone think that the restrictions on the Financial side of the game will restrict the big spending clubs?
    Would it help the likes of Newcastle or will they just find away around the restrictions.?

  • 106 Toondog2 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Useless comment from Pardew.
    Shows no ambition , here for an easy ride
    Time for him to Go

  • 107 peaco1980 // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Pardew is off the scale. His comments are becoming increasingly bizarre, desperate even. Does anyone think he’s lost his marbles?

  • 108 microbar // Apr 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Only one word for the man Deluded.

  • 109 magillc // Apr 21, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Pardew’s right if we go straight to 6th or above next season, we’ll have a repeat of this season, 10’s of injuries, 15 more games than everyone else and a knackered squad. We have to take progression slowly and not get greedy, if we progress to quickly it’ll lead to short term gains but long term failures, hence this season. Top ten, to 7th would be a good achievement based on this season and tbh, before yesterday we were only like 6 points off 9th so its not the worst season we could’ve wished for because everyone seems to be screwing up. If we come 7th and had a good cup run i’d be satisfied.




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