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Davide Santon Out For Season – Haidara To Get Run In Side

4:11 pm, Thursday, April 25th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 343 Comments

When Davide Santon sustained his hamstring injury against Fulham, and it looked a bad one, it didn’t look like he would return this season, and Alan Pardew has today said that’s indeed the case.

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Davide Santon – being carried off against Fulham

Alan met with reporters today, and he was asked about the status of the Italian International, who has had a particularly good season in only his second term on Tyneside.

This is what the Newcastle manager said about the 22 year-old:

“I think Santon is struggling for the rest of the season.” “There’s an outside chance for the Arsenal game.” “It means that Massaido Haidara will step in at left-back for the duration of the season.”

The 8 times capped Italian left-back has been ruled out of the next three matches for sure, and there seems very little chance he will make the final game of the season – at home to Arsenal on Sunday May 19th – and let’s hope we are safe from relegation by that time. :(

Davide has become a much better player since he joined us just two years ago from Inter-Milan,  and there’s little doubt that some Italian clubs will be after him this summer, but we must keep him at Newcastle.

Davide has played 38 times this season, with one good goal at Wigan, and in total he’s made 65 appearances for the Magpies.

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Massadio Haidara – good chance for the 20 year-old

This will give a good chance to Massadio Haidara to get a run in the side,  and so far the 20 year-old French U21 international had made seven appearances for Newcastle since signing in January.  and he’s looked very good.

We think there will be a battle next season as to which of these two very good young players, is the starter at left back for Newcastle next season.

And that competition will only be good for the side.

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343 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Shame for Santon, but not too worried. Haidara has looked decent when he’s played.

  • 2 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:16 PM


    Let it be known that in true beattie25 style I didn’t start the debate, but boy did I finish it.

    My unbeaten record remains.

  • 3 89Norcal // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Haidara is much more intelligent defensively, though i suppose he doesn’t get forward as much as Santon.

    Hopefully this accelerates the Haidara>LB, Santon>LW process :)

  • 4 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Stats on transfermarkt and wiki are different. Most of his titles have been from his playing career. Their is no doubt that Laudrup was they better player.

    Managing wise they aren’t that much of difference if you take away that he managed one of top teams in danish league getting 57 % according to wikipedia. .

    Laudrup style of play is more attractive but it might not be that much more effective.

  • 5 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Beattie…Unbeaten? Not so sure on that mate 😉

    Don’t consider ramming a mans playing career down another posters throat proves too much about a manager…

  • 6 G // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Sazzer, didn’t AP get called up to the Enlgand squad once? Or did I just imagine that bit? I know he deffo never got a game, but I’m thinking he might have been called up once or twice?

  • 7 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    I’m calling you our Beattie… :) Any topic – I can conclusively prove you’re wrong…

  • 8 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Santon like Collo is being given “time off” to get his stuff all packed up to get the funk outta here… Ridiculous the amount of players we have out injured… There is an article and will find it and it explains that Footballers get more injury prone when working under stressful circumstances…

  • 9 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM


    Pardew played in league 1 with the best team and struggled to get promoted. Take away Pardews stats in league 1 with Reading also and you’re left with a very very poor record.

    You are trying to defend Pardew by drawing similarities to Laudrup and almost saying Pardew is better this season.

    There is no comparison. Firstly the two do not draw any parallels in terms of career stats and if they do Laudrup is better. Secondly it is much more effective as they’ve won silverware and are currently not fighting relegation.

    Stop trying to be in a gun fight with a goose feathered pillow.

  • 10 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM


    In every way you look at it Laudrup and Pardew are incomparable. That’s my point. If you try to compare them Laudrup is better at everything.

  • 11 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    International career
    At international level Pardew was a member of the England Semi-Professional squad during his time in the English non league playing for Dulwich Hamlet and Yeovil Town.

  • 12 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:25 PM


    Top 5 things that need to be done to improve NUFC and make you happy?

  • 13 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:25 PM


    He played at amature level. Don’t think he got called up?!

  • 14 G // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Yep, I imagined it. Can only really remember his playing from his Palace days, and whilst he wasn’t a disgrace, I seem to remember he was pretty unspectacular.

  • 15 G // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Thanks for clarrifying guys, wonder who I was confusing him with then? I suspect he wouldn’t have been any worse at international level than most of Greame Taylor’s call ups mind? Carlton Palmer anyone?

  • 16 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Beattie…Even excuse making? Lying? Better at being bad at tactics? Shoe lace tying?

    I agree that comparisons are somewhat pointless, so isn’t it best to just say that rather that to keep posting their playing career stats? Just confusing issues :)

  • 17 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM


    1. A better manager with a modern take on footballing style and tactics.
    2. A better manager with humility, honesty and someone that fans, players and journalists can follow.
    3. A better manager who cares not for names but more about form.
    4. A better manager who believes NUFC can win things and not just compete.
    5. A better manager who wants will fight for the club and not roll over.

  • 18 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM


    In honesty though we need (in no particular order):

    1. A better manager.
    2. More investment.
    3. More communications with the board.
    4. A united fan base.
    5. Ambition.

  • 19 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM


    I like to force an issue rather than resolve it peacefully.

  • 20 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM


    Em…. thats just one thing… a Better Manager… so the other 4 would be??? Im not starting anything here… Your blog spots are an excellent read and I wanted to know, out of respect, what you really think… Why Pardew? Why not change it all? The club needs a complete revamp… Maybe relegation will help? (Sad to say that)

  • 21 G // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    I’m guessing Beattie25 won’t be joing the Official Alan Pardew Fan Club then? You get a t-shirt with an excuse on it as well as a signed photo, mug and badge.

  • 22 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Beattie…Force or confuse an issue?

  • 23 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM


    That’s my style. I confuse people and therefore they think they’ve won but they haven’t.

  • 24 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:35 PM


    I’d rather staple my nuts to a moving train.

    Although the excuse t-shirt is an excellent idea. They’d go for a fortune on eBay

  • 25 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM


    That’s what I though 4 years ago.

  • 26 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    We have played crap all season, and are 5 points behind Swansea. They have City, United and Chelsea left to play, If the go on losing streak they might be in relegation battle.

    I’m not trying to make Pardew better than Laudrup. Rather having a sober look at Laudrup.

    Pardew finish 5 th with probably worse or equal team that Swansea have this year.

  • 27 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Beattie…Are you sure you don’t confuse people in to thinking you’ve won to the point even you think you’ve won?

    Little tip, the confuse and force tactic isn’t great for picking up women…can land you in a lot of trouble.

  • 28 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    1. A better manager. (Agreed)
    2. More investment. (At grass roots level plus about 10 new players with good medical records)
    3. More communications with the board (As in? They speak to the press or us?)
    4. A united fan base (I think we have this… We all love Newcastle and want them to do well – no?)
    5. Ambition (The most important point you have made here… where is that gone? Why do we think ourselves inferior – a northern thing? I dont know… ManU dont have it… 21 years ago – they were a mid-range club falling on it arse with finance and an unknown scots manager – We need to believe… )

  • 29 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM


    I’m afraid we’ll have to agree to disagree.

  • 30 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Sazzer….I think Laudrup is a decent manager and will do well. I’m eager to see what they do as a club next season and how he manages the EL.

    However, I don’t think we had a lessor team last year than they do this year at all.

  • 31 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Sazzer – I like the Laudrup link… good thinking… although he has already said he is planning for next season… )

  • 32 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    We all know Pardews limitations.

  • 33 G // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    @ Post 24 – you owe me a fresh cup of coffee and a new keyboard.

  • 34 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Classy Playing Career anyway…










    Epsom & Ewell




    Corinthian Casuals




    Dulwich Hamlet




    Yeovil Town




    Crystal Palace




    Charlton Athletic














  • 35 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Ba – Michu
    Krul – Vorm
    Cabaye – De Guzman/Korean kid (Hernandez)

    Willo, Simmo, Best, Tiote, Obertan, Jonas, Perch, R.Taylor, Guthrie, S.Taylor

    Ben-arfa nad Cisse made us finish strong but they weren’t playing for most of the season.

  • 36 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM


  • 37 ErnestHemingway // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Why on earth are people singing the praises of laudrup to such an extent? He has won a cup with swansea, which is a good achievement. But his record isn’t any better than pardews if you look at it over his career.

    He is one of the best players to have played the game in the modern era but on a managerial level, he isn’t that special.

  • 38 ToonDownSouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    If Pardew had Laudrup’s attitude towards football, and had won us trophy this year, then I think we’d all be more forgiving of poor league results.

  • 39 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    So far in his career, Pardew has been involved in several controversial issues and events. In 2003, the BBC described him as being a “dangerous and distant animal” in the media, referring to his public relations abilities, which has led him to making several rash comments.[41] When at West Ham, the club employed a media advisor for Pardew to help him win over sceptical fans.[1] The following is a list of controversies Pardew has been involved in:
    In September 2003, Pardew resigned from Reading after being refused permission to become manager at West Ham. Reading’s chairman John Madejski attempted to create an injunction in the High Court to prevent him from moving to West Ham. Eventually Reading’s legal action was dropped, and Pardew joined West Ham after a period of gardening leave.[6]
    In March 2006, Pardew had a dispute with Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger, after he criticised Arsenal for failing to field an English player in their UEFA Champions League win against Real Madrid.[42] Wenger suggested that Pardew was being xenophobic,[43] a claim Pardew denied, citing his marriage to a Swedish wife.[44]
    In November 2006, Pardew had another dispute with Wenger after celebrating West Ham’s win over Arsenal.[45] Wenger claimed he was provoked into pushing Pardew after Pardew’s celebrations at West Ham’s late win.[46] Wenger was later fined by the Football Association,[47] whilst Pardew was cleared of the charges in January 2007.[48]
    In February 2007, shortly before Pardew’s new club Charlton faced West Ham, The Sun published a report documenting a video of one of Pardew’s media training sessions he took whilst manager at West Ham. In the video, Pardew jokingly made several disparaging comments about West Ham’s fans.[49]
    In October 2007, Pardew intervened on the pitch in a match against Hull City to try to break up a confrontation between Charlton and Hull players after Lloyd Sam and Ian Ashbee were sent-off. Pardew denied he made the situation worse by intervening.[50]
    In March 2009, on Match of the Day 2 Pardew stated that Chelsea midfielder Michael Essien “absolutely rapes” Man City player Ched Evans during a midfield tussle for the ball, in the sense that he bested him physically.[51] The BBC said there will be no on-air apology, despite 35 viewer complaints, insisting it had been misheard as “rakes”.[52]
    On the opening day of the 2012–13 Premier League season against Tottenham Hotspur, Pardew pushed an official after an incident where the ball appeared to go over the touchline, but the referee deemed it to still be in play. Pardew later apologised, citing his behaviour as “ridiculous”.

  • 40 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM


    The point regarding communications is that all we here is commercial points and revenue results. We hear the odd thing but at times like this it would be refreshing to hear the MD come out and say ‘this is our plan’.

    They’ve apologised (or rather admitted) mistakes but not vowed to do things differently in the Summer.

    I just want them to communicate to us all what they’re planning. I want typo hear them say ‘this is what we’re aiming for’ rather than Pardew being the mouth piece.

    Also regarding the fan base, we all love nufc but we are all so divided when it comes to what’s best to push forwards, onwards and upwards. For me we need to unite behind a quest for better. A quest to improve all aspects of our club rather than accept what we have and hope it gets better. Once we all agree that it isn’t good enough and we need a complete top to bottom change then maybe we can move forward and be united again.

    I respect people’s opinion that Pardew can do well but we don’t want well, we want excellent. As soon as more fans wake up to the idea that we don’t have to accept mediocrity then we can do something about it.

    But whilst there are 50% wanting to keep Pardew and his mediocrity and 50% wanting better, we will never be as united as we once were.

    We were united under Hoots and then this geezer came in and spilt is in 2. Although more people are coming over ibiza’s fence to the side of ambition and yearning for more. It might be rosey on the pro Pardew side of the fence but over on the other side there is a dream to have more than roses.

  • 41 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Laudrup took over a team used to play tika taka. Pardew took over team of anti-tika taka.

  • 42 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Hes no Bobby Robson… anyway.. Beattie :)

  • 43 ErnestHemingway // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Some mentioned Dragan Stojkovi? the other day and if pardew is to be replaced, this is the man I would like to see. He would totally revolutionise the way we play.

  • 44 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Sazzer…I’m not saying we don’t have some players of similar quality etc, just that I don’t think overall, player for player, we were in a worse position last season that Swansea are this year in regards to the squads. I’d have to look at injuries etc.

    What they do have on us, is time together as a team and a cohesive footballing philosophy that has been in progress for about 10 years.

  • 45 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Laudrup certainly have a more likeable persona.

    If you don’t want mediocre aim higher than Laudrup.

  • 46 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Not to blow smoke here Beattie but thats one of the best spots on this blog… especially the last lines… “It might be rosey on the pro Pardew side of the fence but over on the other side there is a dream to have more than roses…” That should be on a banner.. I am firmly on the “we can do better than pardew” side… He has shown himself to be a bad technical coach and a bad man-manager (…Note to Tiote, Anita, Sissoko, Enrique, Collo etc… Can go on here… )

    The communications are never gonna come… its not how ashley has ever done business… that is why he is successful… I think that they should get Chris Mort back and with Hoots, we had an actual Coach… the players respected him and knew he knew what he was talking about on the training pitch… Pardew seems to me and I am assured the other quality players like a bit of a jack-the-lad… kinda endeverouring them to reach to their heights in the game but not showing the way and allowing them to think their future lies outside our Club…

  • 47 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM


    Ha ha ha. You started this. I didn’t even mention I wanted Laudrup.

    Never once have I even mentioned him as a possible manager.

    All I did was to help comparisons between him and Pardew seem pointless.


  • 48 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Sazzer – I Do… he would be a 1,000 times better than Pardew…

  • 49 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back By Popular Demand
    If you go player by player I don’t think we had better team than they have this year last year except when Ben-arfa and Cisse came in. Did we have better team this year than them for sure but we also had lot of injuries, and are only 5 points behind them. It’s should also be said that quality of football overall this year have been higher in PL. Liverpool, Chelsea underperformed badly.

  • 50 ichrisho // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Anyway Fellas – Am off out in the sunshine… seeing as it will prob last about 10 mins… see ye tomo.. have a good one..

  • 51 DokToon // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    beattie @ 18,

    well said…

    any desire for management level as a career? according to some, may be a vacancy at nufc… :)

  • 52 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Yes, I did because I have seen a lot of people rave about Laudrup, and wanting him as manager. I then realized we are 5 points behind them, and that they have a tough schedule.

  • 53 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    And Beattie25 agree that to achieve greatness need a better manager (…or very unlikely that Pardew learn with time)

    And yes he have had enough time already to make us play better.

  • 54 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Beattie…Once again I think you confuse mine and many other posters stance on Pardew and ambition.

    Sazzer…I’d need to take a better look at it tbh, my gut feeling is we would have “better” players, but I may be basing on that on internationals?!?

    I do get your point about Laudrup and his success this season. As you point out, we’re only 5 points off them and they’ve supposedly had a wonderful season whereas ours has been a disaster. Fine margins, something I’ve been saying for weeks now.

    I think for a lot of people, it all boils down to style of play. Many claim they’d be happy to not be challenging for much, if we played better football, not sure how true that really is tbh. I’d say it’s better to struggle in the PL whilst watching pretty football, than it is to struggle in the PL and watch sh*t football, but that’s stating the obvious :)

    I am of the mindset that Pardew is going nowhere this summer. I hope he can evolve his approach, like he did for a while last season. He seems to only go that way when he / we are full of confidence, something we’ve not had this year. He has to find a way to get past that, as there will always be hard times.

    I do also agree with your point and it is one I have made in the past, that Laudrup inherited a good passing side, what he’s added is goals, which was sorely missing last season. In theory, Pardew had and has a bigger project to handle. There are still question marks whether he can, but I do still support him to give it a go.

  • 55 PardewsBeard // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Ok how can Pardews 5th place season be put down as luck but this season not be down as unlucky? How can laudrup not just be getting saved by players brilliance (Michu) but Pardew can

  • 56 AndyNUFC // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Wow. Blind hatred so severe for our own manager that you’re resorting to wikipedia for his playing career and ‘controversies’.

    On a point – when he commented that essien absolutely rapes Ched Evans – yeah it’s badly judged, but not as bad as what Ched Evans actually did, is it?

    Just grow up, we’ve got a structure in place – give him another year before you start calling for his head.

    Honestly you sound as though you don’t even remember we were nearly top 4 last year, no wonder we’re called vicious by the likes of Barton and no manager with any credibility would want to bother if we turn so easily when things are going bad. Short memories, blind ambition…

  • 57 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Beard…Might be easier to start with “what is the meaning of life?” :)

  • 58 Barbtoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    We should give Pards a chance on Saturday. Lets get behind the lads and roar them on. If we don’t get the much needed three points, then Pardew should start packing his bags. He’s had a hole week too prepare for this game, and that’s what he has been complaining about, too much match time, no time to recover.If we do pull off a good result, expect Pardew to producing some good results from a boost from team morale.

  • 59 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Barbtoon…Do you not think that’s a bit unreasonable? 3 points off liverpool or he’s gone? I get it’s been a bad season, but there are games that just don’t go your way sometimes.

    Andy…Can you stick around a bit more? I get why people are frustrated, not much to cheer about this season, but it seems expectations have gone through the roof again. What happened to re-building, small but smart steps forward? A lot of this does reek of panic imo.

  • 60 terencelim // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    @Ibiza, frankly I think your posts are rather long, boring and confusing compared to others, but sometimes entertaining as when it comes to certain time you’d always be proven wrong.

  • 61 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM


    No ambition and blind loyalty springs to mind.

  • 62 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    terencelim…Thank you for the feedback, it is greatly appreciated.

  • 63 kevymartins // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Pop up adds?

    Anyway tweet #futnufc for a chance to win ultimate team stuff or a signed ultimate team card by cisse colo or cabaye

    looks class

  • 64 kevymartins // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Tweet it 2 @ea sports fifa

  • 65 Barbtoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM


    I meant, if he cant get a result on Saturday, we will be lucky to get a result from anywhere else. West ham are in good form. QPR are playing for pride. Arsenal are challenging for top 4. We need a result. If we don’t get a win, win we will unfortunately be staring relegation right in the puss.

  • 66 PardewsBeard // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    You’re probablys right as there seems to be no logical reasoning behind it, apart from Pardew doesn’t appear to have a clear way he wants us to play and laudrup has his ‘philosophy’

  • 67 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Barbtoon…Not going to argue that it wont give us a huge boost for the remaining games and I’m sure everyone wants the 3 points a.s.a.p, but it wouldn’t be over at that point if we did lose. Even without Suarez, this is still one of the toughest games, all of the remaining games have their own problems associated with them as you point out.

  • 68 Tsunki // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Ibiza – see your fan base is increasing exponentially :)

    Hang in there son.

  • 69 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    On Pardews playing career
    He played for whyteleaf, I will have no one question his pedigree
    Whyteleaf is a damn fine team, a team of class and history and i am in no way biased towards a team where I used to play for at youth level! 😉

  • 70 Barbtoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM


    A win on Saturday will encourage us up into the top 10. That’s every fans hope just now, top 10.

  • 71 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Tsunki…It would seem that way, must be the new cologne?!?

    Beard…There certainly was an element of luck to last season and there is certainly an element of bad luck this season, but there are lots of other factors which will include Pardew and there will be pros and cons in that. Sounds a little middle ground, which is….”boring”.

  • 72 PardewsBeard // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    I would agree with that probably because it is a lot more likely than being outright lucky or unlucky, I do think that some of his decisions this season have been a bit off such as dropping Anita and his reluctance to play marv even when gutti was dire

  • 73 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    tads… :)

    Barbtoon…Something that is quite clear from the past month or so is that one result can completely change the way we look at our situation. A win and we’re looking up, anything is possible, whereas a loss, well then we must be getting relegated and wont find a way to win another game. I think Pardews comments recently about not caring where we finish this season as long as we’re not relegated weren’t too far off the mark, whilst it’d be better to finish 10th by a point or two, will it change the way many feel about this season? I don’t think so. We need to finish this one making sure we get another shot at it next season. Of course we’d all rather finish as high as possible and the only way to do that is to win, so here’s hoping.

  • 74 Barbtoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM


    Morale is everything in this sport. No morale- no results.

  • 75 VanBasten // Apr 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    I’ve been a reader of this blog for a few years now and have been posting off and on. I guess the two main reasons for not posting as often is due to a) lack of time, and b) lack of something “intelligent” to share that hasn’t been stated by someone else before me.

    But reading the posts from the majority in the past few months have made me compelled to make a post.

    Here are a few TRUE facts about most “fans” on this blog:

    1. Blame. You will always find scapegoats when the going gets tough. Earlier in the season players such as Willamson & Simpson got most of the stick. After our new signings in the Jan transfer window when these 2 players were not selected, the blame has shifted towards the likes of Jonas and Cisse. I’m sure if these two were not playing either, you’d find a couple of more (at least) to blame. This is a never ending saga…

    A true character of a fan shows when the team is struggling, not when they are winning and things working as charm. Some people just like blame somone when something bad happens and I guess by doing so the true colors of a person shines through.

    2. Shortsighted. Most people here only seem to think about today rather than the future or the recent history of the club. Sure, we lost 0-3 against Sunderland, and yes, we are in relegation battle. But have you already forgotten where we were in Dec without these new signings, or do you even remember the financial shape of the club before Ashley took over?

    Persuming we avoid relegation (which I think we will with just one more win), when combining the last couple of seasons, it have not been bad overall. We had a 5th place finish last season when most had us for relegation, and we reached the quarter-finals of Europa League and where we went down battling. Surely those are things to build on? We have a much stronger squad now, financially more secure, larger appeal for players, fans & coaches. With a few more first team players and top youngsters, and provided all key players stay healthy, this club is definitely moving upwards, not downwards.

    3. Patience. Last but not least, most people here lack patience. Perhaps things move faster in Football Manager or FIFA. But this is the real world, real people , real business dealings & money. Give it time and stick behind your team, and give the manager and players your 100% support. If you can’t read between the lines and see the progress the club is trying to make then I suggest you stick to Football Manager :)

    After all, Rome was not built in one day. Neither will the future glory of Newcastle football club :)

    Feel free to refute these hard facts. I just call it the way I see it :)

    Peace out!

  • 76 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    #NUFC officials have made early enquires on Rafael Benítez according to club sources. Alan Pardew future unclear and talks are planned.

  • 77 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    I think we agree on most things. I also think Pardew will stay unless we get relegated and I therefore hope he and club will evolve despite that during the summer.

    We might have few more caps overall but Swansea have quite few semi-international players as well. It’s closer than one would think.

  • 78 magpiemover // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Cisse’s Big Toe
    where has these rumours came from ?

  • 79 boater // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Van Basten – :”lack of something “intelligent” to share that hasn’t been stated by someone else before me.”

    Were that the criteria for posting on here, the blog would have ground to a halt a long time ago.

    You’re right about scapegoating. It’s human nature to huddle together and focus on an easy target. Williamson and Simpson were nowhere near as culpable as people made out. Simple minds are often drawn to simple solutions.

  • 80 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    magpiemover @indykaila on twitter. the only reliable source there is on there. knows his stuff unlike most of the ITKs

  • 81 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    There are no reliable sources on twitter just attention seekers

  • 82 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    haha wwycd i would usually say the same but this person is right about 90% of his stuff

  • 83 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Barbtoon…It certainly helps mate.

    VanBasten…In with a killer post there :)

    Sazzer…I don’t think we’re a million miles apart on this.

  • 84 Williamsonsuks // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Cisse…. They probably will enquire until they hear his wage demands. Not sure he’d take us in the right direction.

  • 85 magpiemover // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    i would welcome that apointment raffa does not play long ball football like pardew would not suprise at all

  • 86 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Van Basten

    The margins between success and failure are wafer thin. One bad reffing decision, a ball spinning off a post instead of in. That would have been six points to us and one point above Swansea. Would we then be getting all this Ibiza/Beattie arguing black is white about an unproven manager but truly great player ?

    Expectations for the Toon far exceed the ability of the side and management to deliver at present.
    We do have to be patient.
    We do have to take a longer view.
    This season has been pretty painful for a lot of us but the witchfinder generals on here are a real throwback. Pardew didn’t float with that weight tied round his ankles so he must be a witch.
    Football is rarely pure and never simple.
    I think the Ibiza line is purely pragmatic – and certainly not Pardew-loving – a school boy level jibe. I’m totally in this camp. All I want is enough strikers and a new winger to have quality backup for Cisse, some real strengthening of the coaching side which bothers me – a review of our medical strategy and a top top sports psychologist.
    Oh and a trophy before I die

  • 87 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM


    i dont think hes great but is a step up from pardew if in our wage structure. bargains are good but sometimes you have to may more to get more

  • 88 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Sorry mate can’t agree I dislike all those who claim to be itk and that bell with his ‘big news coming up’ stuff just strikes me as a universal Colin instead on a niche one

    I trust Torq that’s all with itks

  • 89 nufc786 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    interesting on anita…

  • 90 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    van basten

    1. Simmo and willo got blame as they were the worst two by far in the team. Both made mistakes, both can’t pass a football and bother shouldn’t have been playing for newcastle but we never signed anyone in the summer. The fact they have no been replaced suggests that as fans we were right, they were the weak link.

    Jonas is a winger, a position where you mainly attack, 3 goals and 3 assists is a joke in 2 seasons. Why can’t the man learn to even cross a ball by the time he is 29 I have no idea.

    Cisse, never given him stick personally, think he was hard done to this season playing right side, not his game.

    2. Shortsighted? hardly. This is long term problems with Pardew. The man hasn’t changed the style he plays with since he first came through the door, only difference is he has better players who can keep it on the floor. Less long balls but the same ‘lets sit in our half and defend for 90 mins’ attitude which I personal;y find not only dull to watch but it isn’t even working this season, so why not try to change? he is too set in his ways.

    3.Patience…i don’t mind waiting to see us move up the table but i don’t believe pardew is the man to take us there on a regular basis. Would you walk from newcastle to london if somebody offered you a free lift? course not. Patience is fine but in context…we won’t go anywhere long term with pardew.

    Just my own views, can’t claim fact but from everything i have seen with us and in his history it’s my view on pardew.

  • 91 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    wwycd fair enough we all have our own trusted sources but why is torq any more reputable than anyone else?

  • 92 Novocastrian66 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    yo-yo; I know what you’re saying but every team in the league will point to deciscions that went against them that may / would have changed the result of a game.
    Fact is we are where we are and for the majority of the season we have been rubbish.

  • 93 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM


    i’m offended haha

    Also on different news Pardew has released a new song.

  • 94 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Player who should have never left us at the time:

    Laurent Robert
    Olivier Bernard
    Demba Ba
    Clarence Acuna (underrated player)
    Didier Domi
    Frazer Forster
    Les Ferdinand
    Jon Dahl Tomasson
    Andy Cole
    Robbie Elliott (broke his leg straight after he left us, very unfortunate)
    Silvio Maric

  • 95 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Honestly he earned it with myself, I was very hard on him when he joined the blog and throughout his predictions he took it in his stride. Also he is up front and honest with how he comes by his information

    Added to that he’s yet to drop a bollock as far as I’ve noticed (and am a sh*t for spying when itks do)

  • 96 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Forgot to add Nolberto Solano. Forgot he was sold to Villa.

  • 97 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Haha I can’t recall u making a prediction recently bud. No offence meant I just don’t see u as an itk anymore

  • 98 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM


    The argument has been that Laudruop is a success and Pardew a failure yet as Sazzer poijted out there’s only five points between them – I’m saying that difference can be accounted for by bad luck alone.
    I do think Laudrup will prove to be an excellent manager in time and I loved him as a player but he isn’t the best thing since sliced bread or even that much of an upgrade on proven performance. He has yet to finish 5th, though he has won a cup.
    Agree we have had a shite season though

  • 99 Cisse's Big Toe // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    wwycd fair enough

    that last article on anita, i have the same opinion, i think him cabaye sissoko could be deadly

  • 100 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM


    I predicted in december we would sign 4-6 players in jan…was right.

    And just 2 days ago i said i’d been told we paid a lot of expenses in south america which they think can only be down to scouting, we have nothing else there.

    But in all fairness torq has more player knowledge on deals than me. I just have business side off my friend and we try to piece it together with media stories/interest…so never anything concrete, just try to add substance to rumour.

  • 101 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    nufc786….Great article. Also read the “What’s Wrong With Newcastle? The Same Old Problems” article, another good read.

    I’d forgotten about that site, seems to be well thought out and open minded.

  • 102 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    Fair one mate I missed the South American tout…u better be bloody right now or u will incur my full wrath haha

  • 103 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM


    i’d take 8/9th and a up over 5th though…but i get what you mean.

    It’s not fair to compare anyway….both have had different squads, on with a vast amount of internationals….the other with swansea.

    But it also doesn’t take into account injuries.

    ps. seen this before but post again…got to love dortmund’s training machine…should lock will in there for a week and see what happens.

  • 104 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Areet mate, a well thought out post and probably deserves a well thought out reply
    Oh well :)

    Your right, this place loves a scapegoat!! However when something is going badly or against us there is normally a degree of blame somewhere, but I agree it’s not solely on one player for a whole season!
    Lets take the players you’ve listed
    Personally got nothing against simmo, he’s fairly quiet and goes about his buisness hadn’t made a fuss about losing his spot and I actually think he’s improved with the competition debuchy has bought in
    But I don’t think he’s of a standard that most see he should be at given the targets put out by the club ie constantly challenging from Europe
    But yeah he got a stupid amount if blame I even remember a few lads blaming him and he wasn’t even playing!

    I actually like Willo and once again thought a lot of blame aimed towards him is b/s and think he’s quiet a dependable player

    Once Again think a lot had been aimed at him unfairly, it’s not his fault he’s picked ahead of some bloggers preferred choice’s or asked to do shifts in different positions, for me 9/10 he’s gives 100% on the pitch

    I’ve given him some stick this season, mainly because i fell Ba took an unnatural amount of abuse for cisse’s form
    Well ba has gone, his form has picked up a bit, but a player should be able to stay onside! That’s my biggest frustration with him, which as a fan I don’t feel I have to blindly support him and like any pro in any sport he should be open to deserved critism
    This goes mainly for tiote this season for me, his work rate, attitude application and performances have been shocking, and as a supporter of the team I’d rather see him out of the line up for the good of the team

    2) yes I think as fans we are shortsighted, many forget we were in the championship not long ago!
    But at the same time, being a blog we gave no idea how old or how long some have supported the toon and after a lifetime of spending there wages following the toon they feel a club of our stature should be were we are and simply want to see us reach the potential were more than capable of

    3) patience
    This point I disagree slightly on
    Modern football is a fast fast evolving enterprise on and off the pitch last season we excelled most people’s expectations through a summer of hard work very smart signings and a good work ethic on the pitch
    This summer we stood still, you simply can’t do that in football these days, you’ll get left behind
    The club was naive and it’s cost us this season imo
    Building for the future is a fantastic blueprint, it really is but we have to make sure the club of the present is heading in the right direction for that to succeed and scraping relegation isn’t the way to go

    Now imho you can’t label a fan on these expectancies, a fan who’s more ambitious is no bigger fan than one that’s just happy to go and see the team each week and vice versa
    Each fan will hold different opinions and ambitions of the club the team and the manager but none of it really matters asking as the lads our supported for those 90 mins each week

    My last point is as fans we hold no obligation to the club, we owe them nothing, we don’t have to support them
    We support them becuase we want, whether that’s because of origin, family or just because you saw them play once and have followed them ever since
    We owe them nothing yet we give undying loyalty to the toon and follow them week in week out and you can’t question anyone’s passion or commitment to the club when fans from all over are on here day in day out arguing to mute points to death over there passion

    But the club? That’s the difference, the club owe us fans everything and if as fans we feel there not doing everything in there power to ensure the clubs success, then I can’t begrudge any fan voicing there frustrations

  • 105 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:37 PM


    oh god..wish i never spoke now haha

    they might be scouting but might not find anyone, not a lot in south american football.

  • 106 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Fcuk me TADS that was a long boring @rsed post!
    Sorry lads!

  • 107 Barbtoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Was is Torq? I hear you speak of?

  • 108 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Willo is the worst defender in the football league.

  • 109 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    That’s sounding like Pardew style excuses right there! I expect 15+ South Americans to come in during the summer! 😉 u wanted to be seen as itk

  • 110 sean667 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    VanBasten @75, hear hear find myself agreeing whole heartedly with you, and sadly its surprised me 😮

  • 111 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Am sure that was a wonderful post but as for reading it I ain’t got no time for that

  • 112 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:46 PM


    don’t you worry, after watching his interviews i have got an list of excuses as long as my….arm.

  • 113 dmac // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Sorry if this has already been asked but is anyone else encountering problems accessing this site from an iPhone? Im getting blocked and spammed with adverts and when i finally get through it tells me its having an issue retrieving the site. Am i alone?

  • 114 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Benitez would allow us to attract better players since he’s well-known manager, also back in the day he transformed Valencia into a attacking team and got them back to back Champions League final and won spanish league.

    He said to be a business man type of guy so he might buy in on Ashley vision (or lack of it)

    He wants to stay and live in England so he might drop his demands and see us as a challenge.

    So it’s could be good thing if he comes.

    On the otherside he likes to bring in a lot of players. So got in to fight with Inter because he wasn’t allowed to buy anyone and with Liverpool board because they wanted to buy Robbie Keane or something along those line.

  • 115 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Haha bless Pards

  • 116 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    tads…Well too long, be a nice read before bed though :)

    Well responded, almost brought a tear to my eye.

    Transfer…Careful mate, Yo doesn’t take kindly to itk’s.

  • 117 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Right there with ya bud am struggling too

  • 118 sean667 // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    dmac, na mate have same problem on me kindle fire and pc its a pain in the arse

  • 119 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    I also think he used some excuse along the line of Pardew from time to time. And get into arguments with other managers. He hit and miss miss on transfers.

  • 120 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    did anyone see this?

  • 121 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Not live.

  • 122 Rotonda heights // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Laudrup has won a meaningful cup, plays way better football, is 5 points higher, didn’t have a near 20M influx of 5 players in January, makes Routledge look a player and is what – 15 years younger?

  • 123 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    No mate loads of ppl having probs, apparently eds aware and is trying to sort so fingers crossed


    Yeah it’s bit lengthy, I couldn’t even be @rsed to read back through to see if it actually made any sense!
    Oh well should give the grammar police a good few days of material!!!!

  • 124 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    pardews biggest problem all season has been jonas. as supermac said in the chronicle at the weekend it seems that he is undropsble. no ballance in the team. why take hidara of who is a natural defender and put jonas at left back. proves a point

  • 125 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM

  • 126 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Outlay was 31 m £ included everything board have said.

  • 127 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    That doesn’t make jonas the problem though does it
    He doesn’t pick himself to play, the blokes been played in about 5 positions this season and has done well when he moved onto the RW or in central midfield he’s not a LB but he’s not the one who picked himself to play there

  • 128 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM


    pepe is insane

    love how the guy he punched does nothing yet when players get slapped they roll around like they’ve been shot.

  • 129 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Evening ladies and gentlemen,

    So we’re talking about the Benitez rumours and the worthiness or lack thereof of ITKs?

    I’ve a feeling that we’ll be discussing this a lot more in the summer too, so I’m going to put my 2 pence worth in now but will probably have to repeat it at a later date haha

    I personally think Benitez would be an upgrade in quality upon Pardew, but I’m not exactly sure if he could work within the strict financial limits that work within the club under Ashley. But if discussions are going to take place at the end of the season then I’m all for it.

    As for ITKs; No comment. Haha

  • 130 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Right are u happy now ur upset face guilted me into reading ur novel haha

    I agree with it all hope ur happy with that too I read 1000 paragraphs of stuff I could of wrote!!!!

    Except want to support NUFC? I don’t want to support them its in my blood trust me 😉

  • 131 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:06 PM


    appologies if it sounded i was blaming jonas as i wasn’t. pardew is the blame and it proves he is his favorite. he has enough players to play there natural positions without accomadating jonas all the time

  • 132 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    There is more chance of Peter Reid becoming the Toon’s next manager than Benitez.

  • 133 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:07 PM


    And your basis for that assessment is what exactly?

  • 134 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Cos Benitez won’t work under Ashley?

  • 135 Ian Toon // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Sazzer- you rather skate over Benitez ‘s transfer dealings whilst at L’pool. Jamie Carragher’s autobiography blew the lid on when Benitez replaced Houllier in 2004. Initially Benitez had made it known that
    he had inherited a number of poor but highly paid players. With expectations high Benitez though proceeded down the same profligate path and signed Robbie Keane( then 28) from Spurs for £20 million. Keane had pulled the lifelong fan of Liverpool line and this ultimately persuaded the Liverpool board to sign him. Within 6 months he was shipped out back to Spurs. In six years at Anfield. Benitez spent £122 million net. In the same period Ferguson had spent net £ 27 million. During the same period Arsene Wenger received £27 million. He also outspent Chelsea during the same period. Carragher recalls Benitez complaining constantly about ‘ it is always difficult to compete in the PL with clubs who have more money.’ In Benitez’s defence he did win the CL in 2005 by changing his tactics at half time. The most reliable gauge of a manager is his performance in the league. Benitez and Laudrup are not for me. On Laudrup let’s take a view after he’s been around a little longer . He was a terrific player but so what!

  • 136 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Ruddy – just my opinion.

    Benitez has not done well since he left Lpool and I think if Ashley replaced Pardew it would be with an up and coming younger guy rather than a possible spent force.

  • 137 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Yup proper happy and for just £5 you can order your collectors edition paperback copy which comes with a free copy of future best seller TADS: In the mind of the maestro…..
    Just the one copy??

    Good point though, only a gullible few support few choice!

  • 138 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:17 PM


    Well I don’t think we can definitively state that he 100% wouldn’t work under Ashley. If talks occurred and both sides set out their stalls, MA stated what his expectations were and Benitez likewise and they met in the middle then there is no reason he wouldn’t take over.

    I’m not saying I want him to take over, but to categorically state that he wouldn’t is incorrect in my view.

  • 139 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Rotonda heights
    You’re missing the points we made. Swansea have the toughest schedule left of all teams and they will not likely make that much better season than last year under Rodgers, except for the cup. They are even quite far from our 5 th place last season that also gave Euro League and we didn’t have a huge in flux then.

  • 140 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Aye lol soz mate yeah I see what your saying!
    Unfortunately that’s what happens when we buy only utility players and youngsters!
    Think Debuchy is the only specialised player we have actually bought!

  • 141 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Transfer Sage
    Yeah he is.

  • 142 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Laudrup inherited a team that played passing football and added Michu to give them the finishing touch after watching them this season they play the exact same way as Rodgers team just with killer touch

    Finishing 5th in todays premiership takes more effort than winning the league cup as you only need to win 5 or 6 games to do that and often you are playing weakened teams with this in mind i never understand why we never play a full strength team in the cup??

    Personally I think for the club to progress Laudrup or Pardew are probably not the answer we need better than both of them!

  • 143 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM


    I wouldn’t say Benitez is a spent force with regards his tactical ability. In a hypothetical circumstance where Benitez is in charge he’d be in charge of tactics, and let Carr take care of transfers in the same way he works with Pards.

    It could work I think if they decided to go down that path.

  • 144 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:22 PM


    think you forgot mbiwa and goofy in that bracket

  • 145 JP...from The Rock // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    All this nonsense talk about a change of manager or comparing managers is pointless. Pardew is here and he is going to stay whether we like it or not. Last season he made miracles happen this year it’s been the opposite but I still believe injuries and the inexperience of extra games via the Europa League has been the main culprit to our woeful season. Next season is when we can fully judge Pardew and his pros and cons can be assessed and scrutinised as long as you want, but to do it now is childish and premature.

  • 146 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Give me a holler when it’s half price and we will talk haha

    Not 100% certainly not but history of Benitez sides on the he wouldn’t side of things. I doubt highly he will take over…an not against it totally as long as he didn’t buy the players

  • 147 Ian Toon // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    bills-son – At least we would have a ready made song to greet Reid!

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:25 PM


    Whether or not you think speculation surrounding the manager is childish or not is a moot point really. There are rumours going around that Pardew could be replaced by Benitez and we are discussing this speculation.

    It’s no different to discussions about transfer targets and how they might fit into the team.

  • 149 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:27 PM



  • 150 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:27 PM


    Personally I would err on the side that he probably wouldn’t want to manage us given that he would have limited control over incoming players and have a strict wage ceiling to operate with, I think that could possibly make him turn up the opportunity if it were afforded to him.

  • 151 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    WWYCD – seriously, do you really think that other managers wouldn’t work with Ashley?? I bet you are dead wrong. Apart from the really top managers I bet most others would love to manage NUFC. And the only reason why the really top managers wouldn’t come is purely because they woukd want a Champs Lge club and we aren”t one.

    It’s only Newcastle fans who have got a lousy opinion of Ashley – fans of other clubs that I talk to think we are idiots to think that way. No surprise that I agree.

  • 152 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM


    Pardew ain’t going anywhere trust me?

  • 153 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Not really mate if you think MYM can play RB CB LB and CDM
    And goofy can play the wing and CF

  • 154 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM


    You could be right. But the basis of the blog is to throw around ideas and to discuss speculation surrounding all things NUFC and that’s what we’re doing. Don’t think we should be telling each other we’re “childish” for doing so as it is insulting and condescending.

  • 155 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    Bills Son

    What Ashley has done for our club is what you call genius. Yes he made mistakes at the start but over the last couple of seasons he has made us self sufficent and stability is what our club has been crying out for and we have now got it.

  • 156 JackButler // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM


    It’s fine if people want to judge Pardew next season, personally I hope he’s long gone before a ball is kicked as he’s not going to become tactically astute over the summer months so don’t expect anything to change as we are in for another season of excuses and misery

  • 157 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM


    is your computer set up to send out a bat signal when somebody says anything negative about ashley? haha

    and if it is, is it you that has hacked into the site to have these bloody ads everywhere? haha

  • 158 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    @152 more itk? Lol

  • 159 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    JP – exactly, that’s been my point all along.

    If Pardew gets reinforcements in the summer, doesn’t lose top players and is in the bottom half after 12 games I”ll join the doubters – until then this witch hunt serves no purpose other than spilling bile.

  • 160 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM


    Very true i agreed with his post apart from the childishness lol

  • 161 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM


    Well I certainly wouldn’t call him a genius, the whole stadium renaming issue and the debacle of the relegation season initially was caused by the situation he created surrounding KK.

    He’s done some good things yes, but genius might be going a bit far.

  • 162 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    puppet pardew

    i am yes?

  • 163 Rotonda heights // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM


    I have watched every minute of every match this season and it has been absolutely woeful. Yes injuries like all teams, yes Europa but that doesn’t seem to affect other teams who are doing well in their leagues. Anita can’t get a game, despite 3 in a row.

    Long ball, dour, negative defensive, players played out of position, favourites always played regardless of form, poor and unimaginative subs and an awful win percentage ratio.

    Pardew has a record of after a good start being found out at every club and mentions of Benitez although not my first choice are all I’m clinging to. The thought of another season of Pardew does my head in.

  • 164 JP...from The Rock // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Ruddy – fair point.

    -The only things that really pisses me off with Pardew is his stubbornness in not dropping players that are not performing eg. Gutierrez, Tiote and Strolla Ameobi.

    -His subs come on too late to have any real impact to change the game around in our favour.

    -His sometimes lack of ideas in how to change a game tactically instead of always going for the more direct approach and just hope that by some miracle Ameobi scores a goal to win us the match and at the same time jumping our midfield play.

    Apart from that I hold no grudges against the man as you can tell he tries his best and can do a good job as last season proved.

  • 165 JackButler // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM


    What do you expect Pardew to change is 12 games of next season that he hasn’t already had ample time to change this season???

  • 166 Rotonda heights // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    some people are prepared to put up with unlimited c..p, others are a bit more discerning and say enough is enough.

  • 167 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:38 PM


    Your comment made me throw up all over the financial records I printed off regarding the one side of Newcastle that is successful.

    Well I’m glad were stable enough to make fat billionaires richer and stable enough for a shoddy manager to remain in a job for 7 years.

    Forget what’s on the pitch guys, or the direction we are going in, just focus on the commercial successes.

    Hip hip

  • 168 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    as i said in that post he made mistakes initially and yes they were massive ones but gradually he has got the jist of what this club is all about and we are on a very sound footing so give the bloke credit when credit is due mate

  • 169 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    If we have him exactly what he wanted he might turn up but he won’t get that

    Even when I agree with u we argue! But fair enough though I think other teams fans are just humouring u. Ashley isn’t looked in a good light in most circles not just the footballing world

  • 170 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Transfer – funny how I get accused quite often of always supporting Ashley but I’ve never seen anyone criticise someone else for akways slagging him off.

    I’ve criticised Ashley on a number of occassions – I just dont take the ridiculous view held by some on here that he hates us fans, has no ambition, settles for mediocrity and is in it to milk us blah, blah, blah. That is laughable.

  • 171 Rotonda heights // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    letting pardew stay will only bugger up our chances of getting someone good next season who could have a good pre-season.

  • 172 ToonMauritius // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Good evening mates


    Any latest news at NUFC

  • 173 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM


    The points that you’re correctly mentioned as showing the flaws in Pardew’s management are, for me and many others like me, demonstrative that Pardew will never truly be good enough to really take this club forward.

    Without injuries and with a bit of good luck he could take us back up the table again but I doubt he could manage a top 5 finish again, and all the while we’d still have to put up with negative, suffocating tactics.

    This team has serious technical ability and personally I would like to see a further upgrade in management to see the true potential of this team realised.

  • 174 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM


    he has a plan and that plan is long term. we are getting stronger as a unit and will every window. our club will allways live within our means. wait till christmas next season then we can all judge where we are going on the pitch not just the buisness side of the club.

  • 175 WWYCD // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    People are constantly picked on for being anti Ashley man howay

  • 176 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Bills son

    How is it laughable?

    It’s almost as likely as him wanting us to win the league. He has shown at times he is eager to stabilise us but at others risk our progression.

    I can’t understand how anyone can see otherwise. He hasn’t proven anything yet and is still making as many mistakes as rectifying old ones.

  • 177 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:45 PM


    I did give him credit by saying “he has done some good things yes”

    Our sound financial footing should be even more of a reason why we can kick on and produce more quality on the pitch.

    If MA can win us a trophy while employing this model of operating a football club then he will be a genius, but while we sit 16th in the PL and seriously fighting a relegation battle surely you can understand why I am not as forthcoming with this praise.

  • 178 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    For me pardew has continued support, just, until maybe Christmas
    I think it’s harsh to say last season was fluke this season it’s all on pardew, that’s simply some ignoring last season to fit there point that he’s a poor manager!
    If you look at it he had half a season, we finished 12th
    Next season 5th and this season realistically we could finish anywhere between 16th and 10th tbh
    So atm on a average his finishing position would be a consistent of mid table if you combined all the seasons

    He needs backing properly in the summer and there is definatly some strengthening in the back room staff that is much needed, if he gets and finishes say top 7 next season then I’ll happily accept he’s still moving forward, if we’re 15th again by November, bye bye

  • 179 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:47 PM


    the only blame you can put on ashley for our pityful season was the fact he didn’t strenghen in the summer. the rest lies on pardews shoulders

  • 180 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:47 PM


    Been saying that for 5years. It’s always wait and see…

    Football is about steady progression but tell me how have we progressed over the last 12 months? Don’t say the panic buys in Jan because we both know none of them would’ve arrived if we were 8th.

    And we are not living within our means. We are under spending for the turnover we make.

  • 181 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Ian Toon
    Yeah, he’s transfer dealings are questionable. Especially, at Liverpool. Hard to know how much it was because of board and scouting system and how much of it was down to Rafa. I gonna look over later on. Hopefully, if he comes only the good ones will pass Ashley and Carr.

  • 182 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM


    When was the last time you watched 90 minutes of football concerning NUFC and thought ‘yeah, we thoroughly outclassed the opposition’?

  • 183 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    On the bright side mate atleast you threw up on the records mate, not all over your list of pardew quotes!!!! 😉

  • 184 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:53 PM


    I burnt the quotes along with an effergie of Alan Pardew.

    There was a big group of us, all naked and chanting Pardew out whilst dancing in front of the flames.

  • 185 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM


    Not strengthening a squad that was very thin to begin with was not a small mistake.

    We’d been crying out for a CB for the past 3 years, Willo was never going to be good enough and Saylor is a sick note yet we still started the season, which included an extra competition, with 3 recognised CBs.

    Danny Simpson’s contract issues meant we desperately needed another RB yet we didn’t get it. Ba and Cisse couldn’t play together and it was fairly obvious Ba was going to move on yet we didn’t (and still haven’t) bolstered our striking options.

    The signings made in January were to consolidate our league status, had we not made those signings we would be in a seriously precarious situation regarding relegation.

    I have high hopes that MA is ambitious and would like to see the club progress on the pitch, yet I have not seen any concrete evidence to prove this.

    Yes Pardew has a lot to shoulder for his own short comings, but he was dealt a dud hand by the board who sold him short in the summer.

    Both has as much a part to play for the travesty that is this season.

  • 186 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM


    We promised not to tell the others….

  • 187 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Beattie – Nolan, Barton, STaylor, Enrique, Guti, Smith all high wage earners kept after relegation. Krul, STaylor, Colo given long contracts after promotion. Tiote, Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, Santon, Mbiwa, Debuchy, Anita, Sissoko, Gouffran, Haidara signed on long term contracts.

    No top player sold other than AC and than for a ridiculous £35M.

    Thats why Ashley isn’t shit.

  • 188 mickg108 // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM

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  • 189 JP...from The Rock // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    If there were to be a change of manager, I would settle for a foreign manager that understands this league and the huge pressure and responsibility it takes to be manager of NUFC. A foreign manager you ask? Well it’s simple we need a fresh impetus of tactics and the way we play. Pass and move Tiki-Taka style is the way football should nearly always be played. Yet we always tend to do the opposite and that’s a problem. Last season we played extremely well and was great fun to watch as we had all the big clubs struggle with our fluididty on the field. This season it’s the other way round and therefore I believe a foreign manager with fresh ideas on how to play along the deck would do us wonders.

    I still believe that Pardew wants us to play that way but slips into a mode of panic and opts to go more defensive and more direct with long balls all day.

    Injuries have duly played a huge part in this season’s demise and selling our goal scorer in Demba Ba half way through the season without a suitable replacement was always going to end in tears.

    This is why next season is make or break for Pardew, for me and for Ashley I feel.

    Now it would be foolish with just 4 games remaining but in the summer it might not be that bad of an idea to swap Pardew for errmm I don’t know maybe Blanc, Solskjaaer, Poyet or even Martinez.

    We need to get a playing style and formation that suits us and stick to it. I think Pardew has been struggling to find the winning formula but I still have faith he’ll get there.

    Next season I and many more will have a clear indication as to where we are heading under Pardew and then and only then will the decision be simple.

  • 190 JackButler // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    For a club that is doing so many things right it’s only one obstacle thats holding us back.

    Dortmund are a club thats run very much like we are run but they have a tactically astute forward thinking manager who is able to get the best out of his players and has them playing for him, we however don’t and we are struggling as a result

  • 191 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Last night when I turned the colour off on my telly

    Nah mate last season tbh, we played consitantly last season, not always special but we did have some cracking performances

    I’m just saying, I don’t think he will go, and I’m not to bothered by that, but if he gets everything this summer, proper backing, proper coaching set up there can be no circumstances of debate, we can’t say he wasn’t backed, back room staff our out dated, we’ve got injuries and insufficient cover
    There will be no excuses, if we start well, are in and around top 6 and are genuinely playing some lovely football I’d say aye fair play pards
    If we’re propping the table up and playing like dagenham and redbridge then yeah i 100% want him shot

    None of this is to say I wouldn’t welcome an upgrade in the summer mate, just that I don’t see it happening

  • 192 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM


    I hope Pardew ultimately wants to play nice on the deck football but I am not convinced.

    Perhaps with a stronger, deeper squad, he will have more of an opportunity to do just that.

    But if that is the case how do you explain some of his strange decisions? He prefers players like Perch and Jonas over players like Anita and Marveaux.

    He brings Ameobi on before HBA in an attempt to change the games he needs to change.

    He plays his flair players out of position all in the aim of playing a game that is not based around fluidity.

    Hopefully he revolutionises this way of thinking and with a fresh squad next season completely surprises us with an attacking brand of football.

    I’ve lost my faith in him, but if he managed that he could win me back. I just happen to think we won’t see it.

  • 193 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Pardew has had 114 competitive games and I remember 8 times when we were the better team over 90 minutes:

    vs. West Ham (H) 5th Jan 2011 won 5-0
    vs. Wolves (H) 2nd April 2011 won 4-1
    vs. Blackburn (H) 24th Sept 2011 won 3-1
    vs. Stoke (A) 31st Oct 2011 won 3-1
    vs. Man U (H) 4th Jan 2012 won 3-0
    vs. Stoke (H) 21st April 2012 won 3-0
    vs. Bordeaux (H) 4th Oct 2012 won 3-0
    vs. Sunderland (A) 21st Oct 2012 drew 1-1

    You might have your own opinions but over 2 1/2 years to outplay the other team over 90 minutes 8 times is outrageous.

  • 194 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:07 PM


    Same time agin tonight?

  • 195 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Bills son

    I didn’t say he was shit I said its unfair to say he is or he isn’t.

    He kept this big earners and got rid ASAP.

    He signed the others on long deals to protect his investments.

  • 196 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:09 PM


    the pl is such a competative league there are not many teams who dominate for 90 mins week in week out mate

  • 197 JP...from The Rock // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Ruddy – Yup it’s those points you mention that also make me question his position as manager.

    He has made some very bizarre subs and stuff but we also don’t know what goes on behind the scenes and he is a good man-manager and maybe his strange subs was his vote in confidence to that certain player for him to up his game or else be dropped for good.

    He also tries to utilise the youngsters he has ir Campbell, Bigirimana and the like. It’s great to see and rarely did I see that with all our past managers.

    Next season with a bigger and better squad and no Europa League it will be very easy to see just what Pardew is capable of.

    This season it has been nothing short of a disaster and one we should forget as soon as we’re safe. It would be unfair to judge Pardew on this season alone considering the small squad and possibly the worst injury crisis we’ve ever had. Our board’s inexperience also plays a big part this season as it was obvious to all but them that last summer we should have strengthened and yet did nothing.

    As I said next season if Pardew is doing crap by Christmas I will be one of the first ones calling for his head as he will have nowhere to hide.

  • 198 JackButler // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:10 PM


    I simply can’t see Pardew changing his philosophy over the summer, he’s stuck by it his entire career and is way to self confident to think that he’s at fault for anything

  • 199 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Just messing with you proud tbag.May I call you proud tbag? I like the ring of it

    @ ruddy I also hope pardew has aspirations to play pretty football. He has most of the players to do fact we can play a good passing game but due to lack of movement we’re toothless a lot of the time.
    the team looks so deactivated. The question is, does that boil down to Pardew?

  • 200 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM


    Tough or not. In 2 1/2 season we should be outplaying more than 8 teams out of 114 matches.

    Why haven’t we outplayed the worst teams, lower league opponents or amateur foreign teams?

    Were not Reading FFS sake, wer’re Newcastle United.

  • 201 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    puppet pardew

    call me what you want mate i don’t get offended (much) lol

  • 202 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    If Pardew had aspirations we would have seen development since Dec 2010. What he hasn’t done in over 10 years of management won’t suddenly come to him unless he has Devine intervention.

    But even if God gave him knowledge he’d be too arrogant to use it and blame God for turning the players head when we lose.

  • 203 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM


    have you watched all 114 games recently to come uo with them stats. if not where did you get them from cause i find it hard to believe mate

  • 204 JP...from The Rock // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Pardew always mentioned at the beginning of his Toon Career that he wanted slick passing along the deck and that he wanted to acquire the players to play that way.

    The players we have been after and bought are evidence of this.

    His change to a 4-3-3 at times was evidence that he was slowly trying to implement this way of playing into the team.

    The few times he has mentioned he’s got it wrong and we lost is evidence that he can admit his own mistakes and is not so over-confident as most people make him up to be.

  • 205 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    @proud tbag it’s ok I didn’t accuse you of being a liar when your “info” didn’t pan out

  • 206 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:17 PM


    to dominate any game over 90 mins takes some doing.

  • 207 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM


    i suppose you are refering to remy gate?

  • 208 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    @jp he’s definitely not as arrogant as some make out.
    pardew, as with any manager, has to show confidence. It comes with the territory

  • 209 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM


    I have watched 108 matches out of the 114. The ones I missed all defeats.

    I have watched them live in the skin 43 times in 2 1/2 years and never once saw them dictate, control or overwhelm the opposition.

    All the other times were on TV or online and I looked back at the results over the time Pardew is in charge and using my very good memory remembered the games. At times we were brilliant in several more games but never sustained it over 90 minutes.

  • 210 Jayden // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    At least an LB will be playing at LB from now on…

  • 211 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM


    It does for a team with a crap manager and stupid tactics.

  • 212 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Not suprising

  • 213 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Just jumping in to say loving PPBs “Proud tbag” :)

    I’ll keep it short and sweet for ya, to prevent the boredom x

  • 214 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    @proud tbag shhhhhh….. That didn’t happen, swept under the rug 😉

    On Remy, does anybody think we’re holding out for him in the summer when q(uite)p(positively)r(elegated) go down taking their mother Hubbard, floppy faced git manager with them

  • 215 bills-son // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Beattie – so what do you suggest Ashley does, signs players on short term contracts so as not to protect his investments??

    Can you not see how daft your comment was when looked at that way.

  • 216 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM


    thats my point mate how many teams can dominate a game for 90 mins on a regular basis in the pl. Even m city ans m utd don’t dominate over a 90 min period consistantley as they will allways come under preassure at some point in the game

  • 217 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    @210 sigh.

  • 218 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Milan going for Sakho?

  • 219 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    @Ibiza thanks honey

  • 220 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Leandro Damiao is set for a move to Serie A outfit Napoli.

  • 221 JP...from The Rock // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Sazzer – Draxler is exactly the type of player we need. He has unbelievable talent. Very slim chance he’ll sign for us though :/

  • 222 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:28 PM


    Remy has got no chance of coming to sjp in the summer and i will put my head on the block by saying it

  • 223 Jayden // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    ptbag – you were the same person saying that Remy was 100% coming in January…

  • 224 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM


    he plays for the bindippers tho don’t he (dracula)

  • 225 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    JP…from The Rock
    Good news for us, since Arsenal miss out.

  • 226 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:31 PM


    was i ????????????????????????????

  • 227 Sazzer // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    And yes another German future star.

  • 228 Jayden // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    ptbag – Words to that effect, yes.

  • 229 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    @proud tbag you said no such thing. Somebody is out to slander your good name

  • 230 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:44 PM


    thanks mate must be getting me mixed up with an itk

  • 231 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    @224 that was pretty poor

  • 232 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    @proud tbag well I won’t stand for such mix ups I blame pardew

  • 233 proudtobageordie // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM


    what about mike ans dereck

  • 234 AndyNUFC // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Well if it isnt Ashley its Pardew, and if it isnt Pardew… Oh wait, its always Pardew.

    It was probably just by when Ba left, injuries were stacking up and we had extra Europa games that the obvious fact we didn’t buy enough of the right players stopped being the excuse and we started to blame the manager, in typical geordie fashion.

    The hate brigade will say “well he got 5 new players in January” – yeah, so 4 months down the line we still don’t have a consistent best team to select!

    If anything this season coming up with the TV money has made me wonder how far we can go under Pardew, particularly in the cups, when he’s allowed to get the players he wants… Not having to play kids for half a season because we’re penny pinching on transfer targets.

  • 235 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    @Andy. If he’s backed I give him til December to see some forward motion
    @proud tbag well……. Nah it’s all pardew

  • 236 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Havent had a lot of time to blog today, but I was reading earlier about the subject of blame, I don’t recall if I’ve mentioned it before but I firmly lay the blame of this seasons implosion on Mike Ashleys desire for us to remain a mid table team.

  • 237 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    @jfa you’ve never had a bad word about big Mike before. Why the change of heart?

  • 238 jimmysmith // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I think only now I’m coming to terms with that home drubbing by Sunderland.

    No amount of excuses make that tolerable and Pardew really has quite rightly had to take some heat.

    Even so, having recently taken a jaundice view of his managerial ability, I’m now back in support of him with a wait and see attitude.

    There’s a school of thought that argues it is our mistakes that make us who we are. Without doubt the club has made it’s share of howlers under Ashley, yet seemingly bounced back wiser and stronger from the aftermath each time. Likewise, Pardew I think has earned the time to show us he too has learned from his travails.

    He has his strengths, he is you’d think entering his prime as a manager, he has bought in to the unique passion and emotion of the club and he did guide us so unexpectedly to fifth.

    That achievement and some fans reaction to this season particularly after the derby reminds me of the Gore Vidal quote ‘ no good deed goes unpunished”. There has been some bitter criticism less than a year after he won so many plaudits.

    But, if ever a man would be steeled by adversity it’s now. It’s been such a long and testing season to endure for fans, players and manager alike. I hope he’s backed wholeheartedly now by the owner and the fans and judged rationally and fairly by how he responds to that support.

  • 239 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    No mate you haven’t mentioned it!

  • 240 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:07 PM


    First time I’ve heard you mention it, do elaborate.

  • 241 breno95 // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    How many times can you bang on about the same thing. Give it up beattie as the continual posting of the same shit is boring now. Just saying.
    As for slagging off the MA regime its not as if the halls n shepherds of this world were really any better or have u lost yr memory? Ok, the novice NUFC fans may throw KK’s name about and state the entertainers but the end result was we won nowt and not done so for since the fairs cup sucess.
    The club is going in the right direction thats a fact. It appears to be that you simply have a severe dislike of both MA and Pardew and like to tell everyone all the time.
    As for AP yes its been poor but he has had a 12th, 5th and could get a 10th place PL finish plus reached QF of Europa. On paper its a decent PL record in what is seen by many as hardest league in the world.
    If the owner sanctions say another 5 senior squad players, keeps the current group and we suffer less injuries and AP fails to deliver then he should go. Until then give yr MA and AP slagging a break eh.

  • 242 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:18 PM


    Seems like you spend more time policing the things that other contributors are saying rather than contributing yourself.

    Don’t like the topic of conversation? Then take affirmative action and change the conversation, talk about this weekend’s game, suggest possible formations, transfer targets or anything else you think may positively move on the conversation.

    I just happen to find it more than mildly ironic how you can come on and dictate what any other person should or should not say, especially given how irate you used to get at me.

    What was it you constantly accused me of? Oh that’s right, you accused me of telling people what they could and could not say?

    Pot. Kettle. Black 😉

  • 243 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Not sure if you got me mixed up with Beattie there or if you turned me and him into a hybrid, that would be fightening, Beattie has in the past been quite supportive of the Ashley regime where as I have with Pardew, but enough is enough good football shit results is acceptable, shit football and good results is tolerated but……..

  • 244 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Any way, I’m going to heed my own advice.

    Given the absence of Suarez does anyone think we’ve got a realistic shout of beating Liverpool this weekend? We’ve done well against them in recent years at home and we could even have beat them this season at Anfield.

    I’m doubting Sturridge’s ability to lead the line himself in the absence of Suarez and if we rough him up at the start I think he will go missing.

    I do think this Liverpool side under Rodgers will have much more of possession but we need to close the gaps for them, especially on the likes of Hendo and Downing as they are average players who will make mistakes.

    Also, their back 4 is very suspect so if we’re clinical and clever we could nab a goal or two, maybe even from a corner as they are awful at defending set pieces (although we’re awful at attacking them)

    Given the somewhat positive news surrounding injuries who do we think AP will go with this weekend?

  • 245 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:25 PM


    I was only joking about you defending Ashley…i don’t mind it at all even if i don’t agree 100%

    I will agree he is better long term than the previous two who were lorded as being very ambitious yet they took more money out of the club and made more if it than ashley ever has.

    I think on the transfer front Ashley has been very good. Agree with all sales other than nolan but thats not a bad record, better than most clubs by a long way. I agree with all the buys we have made, signed some good players, signed a couple dross but the dross was cheap and a safe gamble.

    The only thing i think he gets wrong is timing with his buys…a few times he has left us woefully short. 2 Januarys a go we needed a forward but never got him, best somhow hit form for once in his career, last Jan we needed a CB which we never got, a gamble but players stayed fit and willo/perch filled in very well, gamble worked. This summer we needed a cb, right back, and a forward…never got any and it bit us in the backside hard.

    However this jan he got it right. Hopefully it continues into the summer, i believe it will but none of us know until it does or doesn’t happen.

    A big mistake is not having a scout/manager on the same page…why have a scout bring in technical, attacking players for a manager who plays basic, defensive football.

  • 246 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    You have had a big change of heart on the regime, although I never outwardly praised him I thought Mashleys intentions had changed when Cisse signedI think I was more angry than most with last summers frustration.

  • 247 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    But n defense of Hall and Shepherd they didn’t do things the right way but they did sign players for us.

    If we had a hybrid of the two, spend quite a bit like they did but use it on very talented players who are young and have good potential then we would be on winner.

    We would have a very talented bunch who could sell if needed, keep and win things/challenge and be in a very healthy place.

  • 248 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM


    I honestly thought we could beat them with suarez, we did last year and we drew this year at their place.

    I think without him we have a much bigger chance to win though. Only problem is sturridge, he has pace and scores goals…hope our boys can cope with that.

  • 249 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:31 PM


    I think I am somewhat of a reactionary to a degree. I tried to find the positives in both MA and Pardew when others were taking the negatives.

    This season has forced me to be much more pragmatic and analytical of my assessments. I cannot disregard how woefully short MA left Pardew in the summer window, it is criminal when you truly think about it.

    I do see these January signings as a panic decision in order to preserve our PL status, whether this seemingly positive recruitment carries on into this summer’s window will give me a clearer indication of MA’s intent.

    Finally, if he replaces Pardew with a more attack minded manager then I will firmly believe that he wants us to succeed on the field as well as off it. The longer Pardew remains in charge playing stifling football, the more I think MA doesn’t mind serving up dross as long as it makes him money.

    I keep finding myself saying “we need to wait and see”, I’m sick of waiting, the more we wait, the more we will regress.

  • 250 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM


    Sturridge can’t score goals if we cut him off at the source, flood the midfield and make it uncomfortable for them.

    Needless to say I actually expect us to give them acres of room and for their midfield to steamroll us, but hey ho I can dream.

    If we took it to this Liverpool team and actually showed we cared about our PL status then we could beat them.

  • 251 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    On the game on Saturday, I have ben looking forward to it for awhile as my work rotation hasn’t had me at home till this one since French day against Soton, now I’m a bit worried, there is absolutely jo confidence in the side to state Pards words, the players don’t seem to be making the right noises, a stale draw off of a team that has realised they’re medoicre against our team of ” superstars” last Saturday hit home to me that all is not well some where in the camp.

  • 252 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    I had us down for a home win before Suarez was banned so for me nothing’s changed, regardless of form we always seem to turn up for certain teams Liverpool are one of them

  • 253 spitfire_ // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Transfer Sage @247

    Yes they buy players but on what cost? Almost a 100 mill debt in time when Newcastle for years was among the top 20 clubs in the world for income. If Sheperd was on the club a few more years we will be like Pompey right now.

  • 254 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:36 PM


    my problems with pardew

    1. too defensive, doesnt get the best from the type of players he has, knows one way to play and even if it worked last season (fine with the team we had) it wont get the absolute best from this current squad so long term it will always under achieve.

    2. talks utter garbage in the media all the time, always an excuse, never blames himself or the players

    3.nothing in his history suggests he will play any other way

    And as for KK, i don’t like the guy for walking away from us and England and the way he currently slags the club off, but have a lot of respect and gratitude for what he did for us. He had us playing great stuff nd regardless of winning anything he had us challenging which is all you can ask for, winning is special but challenging consistently for us is a good achievement.

  • 255 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM


    I agree that we’ve always seemed to turn up for certain teams, but the way our season has gone, all semblance of confidence seems to have drained from this side, they play with no swagger, no sense of accomplishment and compared to how Liverpool knock the ball around I think we will struggle.

    Suarez’s suspension works in our favour, yes, but I just think we will limply let them control us, despite the fact we’ve been gifted an opportunity to beat them and show we have some fight about us.

    I’d love to be wrong, and if Pards is positive and sets the team up the right way I just may be wrong.

    I certainly hope so any way.

  • 256 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM


    might not have been like pompey…there a lot of clubs in the league with a damn site more than 100mil debt.

    I didn’t like what they did, signing past it players costing us a fortune but they tried to win things quickly.

    I prefer ashley’s model in all honesty but that doesn’t mean i think he can’t improve and spent a little more and at the right time. Doesn’t need to get world class ready made players but needs a few more promising players than we get.


    I tell you now we will just sit off them til they get in our third which is pathetic. Hate saying it but it happens all the time. Cisse will be 40 yards from anyone and we wont keep the ball. Fortunately liverpool are a one man team and will struggle without him.

  • 257 jimmysmith // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    I’ve long considered the visit of Liverpool to be the highlight of the season behind the derby.

    A chance to take down such a traditionally fine side and club on our own revered patch. It’s so often been a mouthwatering spectacle and is a marvelous football occasion.

  • 258 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    anyone think if we are safe going into the final day, possible as the next 3 are winnable even if we aren’t at our best, do you think we will see some Pardew Out banners at the arsenal game?

  • 259 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM


    it’s my 2nd fav home game after sunderland…loved the atmosphere last year…was electric.

  • 260 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM


    So a 0-0 draw on the cards, 90 mins of total garbage that will then be labelled as a “good point” that we “fought hard” for?

    Sounds about right.

  • 261 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    I was absolutely gutted last summer, and myself and bills were saying we’ll see what Ashleys intentions are come the next window, had we have been sitting eight or ninth ,six to eight points off of a CL place and bought five players, I might have gone, wow this guy seriously knows what he’s doing, the fact that we had to wait until we got beaten off of the bottom club in the division, a team without an away win all season before he pulled his finger out and realised we could be relegated, has reignited my dislike and distrust of his regime.

  • 262 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Would anyone else like to see Gouffran through the middle ?






  • 263 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:47 PM


    Totally understandable point of view, seems like one step forward couple steps back with regards building trust in the regime.

    I do think that this window, with regards incomings (and possible managerial outgoing) will indicate whether he has genuine ambition for this club or not.

    If we’re starting next season with Pardew in charge and we’re fed rubbish again and he isn’t sacked by Xmas then I’ll have totally lost faith in Pardew, but also MA’s ambition for the club.

  • 264 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    That is one of the worst penalty decisions I have ever seen

  • 265 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:49 PM


    Personally I’d love to see that starting XI. I fear we’ll never see it as the midfield 3 will definitely have Perch/Tiote in there, and Goofy will be played on one wing so Jonas can play…

    I hate how bloody miserable this season has made me.

  • 266 breno95 // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    My good pal ruddy.
    I dont dictate nor have i done so. I simply comment on the main theme of conversation and in this thread its the slagging of MA and AP. However i will engage and i would hope to see the following 11
    debuchy colo mbwia haidarra
    Marveaux cabaye sissoko jonas
    i would also like to see the back 4 play a higher line, the midfield closer to the front line and iverall a work ethic to close down from the off.
    I agree they have average players in henderson and shelvey for example which we should capitalise on.

  • 267 Patoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    Would def love 2 c that team line up in that formation on sat evenin

    Would love 2 c us sign Weimann aswel, alot of people bangin on about PEA, wasn’t Chamach a real top player in france b4 arsenal signed him, Weimann has proved he can score goals in the premiership and is a real live wire as he showed against us when he came on earlier in the season, but would really really love us 2 sign Valentine Stocker, great player

  • 268 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:51 PM


    Breno has a point – 50 posts a day from Beattie basically repeating the same thing adds little to the debate – nor does endless repetition make it any truer.

    But it does make it a waste of time to engage as not all of us have the patience or time of Ibiza.

    It’s a great shame as I have enjoyed Beattie’s football related posts but 90% of them are just futile Pardew bashing and agenda ploughing these days.

    We pretty much all have our reservations about Pardew, we know he’s mediocre but want him to learn from his mistakes – and we’re still living in hope that Mashley has genuine ambitions for the club.

    Anyway – back to business….
    I suspect that the Fools will try to overcompensate for the lack of Suarez and will really come at us. If they turn up we’ll have a hard time – if they have one of their rockier games we could easily take the three points and I don’t care how at this moment in time. Unfortunately, imo whether we win depends more on them than us at the moment – unlike last season when loads of us on here felt we were def going to win. That’s a sad reflection on our season in so many ways.
    Funnily enough we may even need to play a counterattacking game at SJP, rather than pressure them with a high line given the possession they’ll probably have.

  • 269 spitfire_ // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Transfer Sage

    To deal with at least 100 mill debt you should have a much more income that we have at this time… or to bring Ashley’s model… the problem is that when Sheperd was in the club our network system was pure $hite.

  • 270 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:56 PM


    agree with everything like higher up the pitch and pressuring the opposition high, when we do it it looks really good and works, we look more solid than when we sit back.

    Dont agree with the team

    like the see


  • 271 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:58 PM


    We do enjoy a good dig at each other now and then but it’s all in jest 😉

    On the MA/AP “slagging”, personally there is good reason to question the capabilities of the manager and ambitions of the owner, because it is in these two matters that will dictate the future progression or regression of the football club we all love, repetition of points might be frustrating but surely that only serves to show how genuinely concerned some fans are.

    A 4-4-1-1 might help crowd the midfield and help Cisse avoid being isolated in attack.

    However, I do think we’ll probably see a 4-2-3-1, which in itself is an attacking formation, but somehow Pards has suffocated this open formation by putting Sissoko in No 10, Jonas on the wing and Cabaye in CDM alongside Perch/Tiote.

    But we should avoid conceding as long as our defensive line holds up, if we retreat like we did in he second half against WBA I’ll be bloody furious.

  • 272 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 9:59 PM


    which is why i said my ideal system would have been a mix of the two owners….still don’t think we were as bad as pompey…

    there ground had a 21000 capacity, we have 52,000…that alone is an extra 17mil a year in ticket sales…aver cost of £30 x 31,000 seats x 19 games.

  • 273 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:01 PM


    Hope we see Cabs and Sissokho swapping places and Anita playing deep and passing out of defence.
    Never know – might happen one day

  • 274 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:01 PM


    my 433 would have ben arfa and gouff (or marv if you rather him) play a little more central (why i went for gouff over marv as more of a finisher) and width from full backs

  • 275 breno95 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Sorry my line up was flawed as i forgot gouffran. So he comes in for jonas on the left. The rest as they are.
    Sturridge is a danger but a pressing game and giving them little time on the ball will stifle his supply as ruddy has pointed out. My god i agreed with a ruddy post.
    Must be coming down with the measles.

  • 276 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Right lads I want to see your best teams with all of our players fit and raring to go. Here is mine






    Subs: Elliot,Taylor,Santon,Gutierrez,Tiote,Bigi,Gouffran

    That is a cracking team and the strongest bench we have had in a long time, and I reckon even Pardew could get that team playing well :)

  • 277 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM


    i don’t think we need them swapping places as such

    just need a flat midfield 3 of anita, cabs and sissoko but give mainly cabs and sissoko the right to attack and get forward when they see fit..if they think they should/can stay a bit higher then do it…just don’t like how rigid we are with positions.

  • 278 Beattie25 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    I think you guys should perhaps go back in time and read the posts.

    I don’t come on here and mindeslessly bash Pardew. I offer my opinion based on the topic of conversation. To try and scapegoat me is quite ironic given the basis of your arguments.

    Look back over my posts and see if I have ever just erupted onto the blog and started saying Pardew out.

    The current trend is Pardew and his abilities. As it was much of last season too.

    I tend to care passionate and if you can’t keep up with ,the ferocity of which I deliver my opinion then don’t engage me.

  • 279 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    big pappa

    1. pardew wouldn’t play that side

    2. he would still have 10 in our half

    sorry for the negativity…i am just in that kind of mood haha, well when i talk about nufc anyway

  • 280 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    Yo yo

    I always think that regardless who we’re playing at SJP we should always have the intention to control the ball (unless it’s Barcelona) and any game where we concede possession to the opposition is in my view letting down the home fans, especially considering how we have players capable of passing and controlling possession.

    Cabaye should be playing No 10, I actually wouldn’t mind seeing him play alongside Sissoko as long as either Marv or HBA were playing No 10.

    I’d love to see a midfield of:



    There’s a lot of versatility with that midfield 5 so you could play around with it.

  • 281 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:06 PM


    you are the new willo…blog scapegoat. It’s an honour, it comes with a cape, hate and all you can eat krispy kreme doughnut card. (supplied by Ruddy)

  • 282 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM


    i don’t think cabaye is a number 1, an attacking mid but not a proper number 10…thats a bergkamp position for me.

    I think he is a very good playmaker higher up midfield but not a proper 10.

  • 283 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM


    Brothers in arms for life now, no getting rid of me now 😉

  • 284 Patoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Debuchy Perch Mbiwa Haidara

  • 285 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:09 PM


    Fair enough, he is certainly a more attacking midfielder than he is currently being used as, and why the hell am I paying for Beattie’s scapegoating? Surely we should have a whip round?

  • 286 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:10 PM


    Perch in CB? Why?

  • 287 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:12 PM


    i just pulled a name out of the hat and it was you….sorry but my hands are tied.

    and yeh, i know what people mean, just a number 10 is more of a striker than midfielder.

  • 288 Patoon // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Thats if collo isn’t back, def wouldn’t b playin Taylor, he’s a liability and wot other cb is ther

  • 289 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:13 PM


    i wouldn’t play perch cb when taylor is fit but he is very good there whenever asked to play in my eyes.

  • 290 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    We’ve got a half decent squad, we just need the 5 new additions to the first team in the summer. We need 2 centre backs, an attacking midfielder and at least 2 new strikers.

    Lets hope we show more ambition this summer. We need to splash out more and pay that bit extra for the missing pieces in the jigsaw puzzle. Players like Remy, Alderweireld and Benteke are must signings for me. Villa have the toughest run-in so hopefully they’ll go down. Can see Villa beating Wigan on the last game of the season to stay up though.

  • 291 breno95 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    we do and it is.
    I understand the frustrations on here and i too have been dismayed at the team selections and approach in games this season under the stewardship of AP and i accept and agree yr views.
    If HBA does not start and sissoko is played behind Cisse i will be angry. A midfield 4 should reduce the time and space for them but overall if we play the way we did in 1st half at WBA for the full game i believe we will win. This fixture is a key PL fixture and hopefully we are in for a football delight.

  • 292 Newcastle Brown Alien // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    I’m confused, does this mean suarez will serve the 3 match ban even with an appeal, or will he be allowed to play against us as the appeal is lodge

  • 293 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM


    I’d be happy with your mid 3 and they are all good eniough to swap roles – I wish they’d be played together regularly so prefer have time to develop an understanding but heyho – and I also prefer Anita to play deeper and Cabs more forward, though obviously not a true No10 its still a pretty advanced ACM role

  • 294 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:17 PM


    Well I’ve always seen a No 10 almost nearly in the same light as a CAM, whereas it’s probably more like a second striker, but let’s not quibble as we both agree that he should be playing in an advanced position of midfield.

    If he is playing in the advanced midfield role the question is then who do we play in the deeper midfield roles. Personally I would have Sissoko as a box to box midfielder with either Perch or Tiote holding, but given how poorly Tiote has played this season I have my doubts.

    Perhaps Anita would be a decent shout but is he physical enough to break up play on a counter attack if play breaks down? Maybe this is the thinking behind keeping Cabs deeper.

  • 295 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:19 PM


    Problem is playing counter attacking style against tika taka does seem to work pretty well.

  • 296 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:20 PM


    If Anita plays deep in front of the CBs then they break up the play and he moves the ball out quickly. Size doesn’t mean he’s a poor tackler

  • 297 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:21 PM


    I’ve no problem with holding HBA back if he is not yet 100%, but he should use Marveaux if he cannot use HBA. If he is going to make a sub he should be bring on HBA first, not Ameobi.

    Sissoko is not a second striker, he’s not even an attacking midfielder, he’s a box to box, and should be used as such.

    He set the team out with the right intent in the first half, had we got a little bit of luck/were more clinical, we’d have been a few goals up by half time, hopefully he sets them up the same way and we get the rub of the green.

    But as long as he tries to maintain the attacking intent, instead of defending one goal leads, or settling for a draw then I will be content.

  • 298 davis_toons // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Looking at both teams Fenerbahce and Benfica both played good football and its really hard to think of buying any players from these kind of teams even.

    We really got to go right down to search for qualities players. Youth or from relegation side to start.

  • 299 yo-yo // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:23 PM


    Agree four or five quality players.
    As Toby reckons we’re a wee club you’ve no chance with him – he’ll got to the bindippers probably

  • 300 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Yo yo

    Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he is a poor tackler, and he would be excellent at recycling the ball quickly and I for one would like to see him given a chance as he is an excellent technical player.

    Just have doubts over his physicality in that side of the game.

  • 301 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    Anita should be played more. Sick of us spending lots of money and not utilising players when they’re good enough. Xisco should’ve been given a greater chance. He’s a decent player. Even Amalfitano should’ve been tried against Premier League opposition. Obertan is another Routledge. If Obertan had Marveaux’s brain he’d been a decent player.

  • 302 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:25 PM


    I debated this with beattie but after how he raved about him at ajax i went and watched some extended highlights of him at ajax and he can really tackle….looks capable of doing it which is why he has replaced perch in my ideal line up.

    I’d like to point out makelele is porbably the best DM i have seen in the past 15 years and he was small and skinny….size doesn’t matter if you time tackles well.

  • 303 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM


    Well then if Anita has the tackling ability then there really should be no debate of Perch over Anita, it should be Anita every time. Anita’s passing ability is fantastic, having him in the midfield alongside Sissoko with Cabaye further forward would surely be an interesting prospect.

    Makelele…what a player.

  • 304 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM


    We need to extend our scouting network (not 100% if this is or isn’t done to the right extent). But we need to look around poland and eastern europe, germany too…its where dortmund shop. Seem to be strong, physcial but extremey technical.

  • 305 breno95 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    if we are to accept no new faces in the summer then that would be my 11 however like sage said would AP ever pick it even though a blind man and his dog knows its the best 11.
    brothers in arms. Thats a turnaround if i ever read one. Nearly as bug a turnaround PDC has managed down the road.
    Just listened to AP on sky and claims that thete is a determination to now get over the 40 point mark. Should that determination not kicked in 34 games ago. Just a thought.

  • 306 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:30 PM


    it’s just my view of course, and you don’t get a bad highlight reel s not 100% sure but seem a lot of what he does at ws impressed.

    makalele was much better than him but he’s still young and thats a position where experience and reading the game pays off so much.

  • 307 jimmysmith // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Empirically speaking, it is interesting that Pardew and staff, almost always put out a side that few, if any here totally agree with.

    Kinda’ makes you wonder what might happen if god forbid we did get our individual ways.

    All to hell in a handbasket would have to be at least on the cards you’d think, bearing in mind their experience and first hand knowledge relative to ours.

  • 308 Munster Mag // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Jimmy thats rubbish mate. If , as u say, Pardew brings such passion and emotion, why are his teams so ofetn demotivated. And why do we take 45 mins to come to life? I guess if we hang on, we will find out more next season, but he has been rubbish enough all season to suggest to me that getting a manager with a CV of Charlton etc isnt the way forward, unless there is another X factor present, like international standing etc.

    Bad injuries
    Shocking free kicks
    Long ball dross
    Under motivated players
    Top signings going backwards
    Messing up and caving in to Ba
    Excuses excuses.
    A decent set of players who are hugely under achieving

    Its about time people stopped fannying around and apportioned blame where logically it must fall – on the manager.

  • 309 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Anita may help to persuade Alderweireld to sign for us. He’s the sort of player we need. Jan Vertonghen should’ve been signed last summer. Fantastic player.

  • 310 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    I honestly feel we are safe even if we lose the next 4 games.

    The average points to stay up in past 10 seasons is 36…also only twice has it ever taken more than 40 to stay up.

    With us on 37 i think we should attack every game…if we do bound to win 1 which is more than enough.

  • 311 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM


    It’s only 3 games into PDC’s reign, it could still go tits up, as could our fragile truce 😛 haha

    I’ve developed a new technique when dealing with AP’s media exposure. I treat it like white noise, if anything white noise would make more sense than his ramblings to the TV cameras.

  • 312 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:34 PM


    Vertongen rejected arsneal for spurs, was very keen on them for some reason…we had no chance.

    Alderweild said himself he wants a bigger club than us, fair enough when there are bigger clubs after him. So we have no chance.

    Any other CB’s you like the look of?

  • 313 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:35 PM


    The young kid Mirin looks like a star in the making, but a more ready made prospect would me Mahmado Sahko from PSG, not exactly an exclusive breaking story though haha

  • 314 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:36 PM


    a few voiced against the manager might make you think they are wrong….but a good view on here, not sure of a % but must be high amount disagree with it…when that many are against it then there is usually something wrong.

  • 315 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:37 PM


    i’d take sakho as a colo replacement (should cut out losses if he wants to go, nothing to be gained from a player unhappy running down his contract, will never get more money, not like he’s a 30mil player we giving on the cheap) and then mirin would be a great mirin replacement.

  • 316 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    mirin would be a great willo replacement.

  • 317 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:40 PM


    If we signed Mirin and Sahko in the summer on top of a LW and another striker, (think we need a RW as well so we can use HBA in the hole) then I would be absolutely delighted.

  • 318 jimmysmith // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Yeah well, I’m not saying there isn’t room for much improvement, not much point in denying that, in areas your post Munster, quite rightly makes crystal clear.

    I’m assuming (hoping) the management see it to.

  • 319 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    I’m still convinced Anita has been caught at it with Pardews missus. I would love to meet Pardew and just ask him why he doesn’t play Vurnon. Then again he will probably give some bullsh*t answer as usual.

  • 320 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:44 PM


    i want 5 players.

    1. winger
    2. striker
    4. CB (if colo does still want to leave)
    5. CB

    And that would do me.


    2.PEA (remy as back up)
    3. weinmann (or belhanda)
    4. Sakho
    5. Mirin

  • 321 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    but ideally we get a lot of players i haven’t heard of who are cheap but good (like lewendowksi was)

    ps. he was off to blackburn before dortmund but the icelandic ash cloud stopped his flight and he moved to dortmund

  • 322 breno95 // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Good point well made ruddy. Im sure something will come up on which we will differ on but its a different opinion is all and certainly no malice.
    However, i am glad to see that shola is slipping down the pecking order. Keep that view and we will get on great no matter what.
    Sakho is my choice for colo replacement and boudebouz for obertan.
    I am off now so been a pleasure. May pop up after the match to discuss the emphatic victory.

  • 323 lesh // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Beattie25, please change your record man, it’s sticking on the same track and becoming tedious. Your seemingly endless mantra of Pardew out seems to be an obsession with you. Get a grip and come into the real world.

  • 324 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:51 PM


    If we landed those 5 players and Pardew doesn’t have us playing mouth watering football and in the top half of the season then it would certainly be time to move him on.

    PEA and Dries Mertens have to be our priorities when it comes to summer signings. Sakho needs to be the top CB priority if Colo moves on so I have to say I totally agree with you on all counts.

    I’ve no clue who else we will be looking for in terms of depth but I suppose it totally depends on outgoings too.

  • 325 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    For a CB We should have went for Kyriakos Papadopoulos before Schalke snapped him up. The guy is a beast for his age.

  • 326 Munster Mag // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Fret…..we wasnt a fret…..If I hear Pardew saying that again I wont he happy.

  • 327 Transfer Sage // Apr 25, 2013 at 10:56 PM


    I think it’s a lot to expect them all but need a good winger and striker, cb too if colo goes .if the other winger is younger then I’m ok with that.

    In fact if all of them are cheap, unheard of players I don’t care as long as they are good. They just the names I know, don’t scout myself haha so don’t know a lot of under the radar players.

    Would love luke shaw from Southampton too.

  • 328 Jackel001 // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM


    Sakho and PEA would be excellent and if we went for remy or Gomis and a midfielder i’d be very happy!

  • 329 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM


    Never gonna get Shaw, being a young British player he would cost twice the market value but he has such composure for such a young lad.

    Even with young British potential in the Championship such as Byram, Hughes and Redmond would cost an awful lot of money.

    I read an article saying Byram was rated at 10m! He’s a RB for Leeds! That’s more than twice we paid for Debuchy, a French international, bloody madness.

    We need to scout Belgium, Holland, maybe still look in France but taking up on your point about Poland and Eastern Europe is a good idea too, seems like the way to go for future recruitment until such time as we can sustainably develop young players for the first team on a consistent basis.

  • 330 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    The only British players in our price range would be


  • 331 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM


    I think that, ironically, the only one of those 4 we could realistically afford, would be Sinclair in my view, despite the fact he’s shown himself to be capable in the PL (I have my doubts over Clyne but he has potential)

    Redmond and Ince would be over 10m in my view, and if not they would still be looking for more money than we’d be willing to pay.

  • 332 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    As a non season ticket holder, I have sat all over the ground this season, and I have never once been seated next to somebody who thinks Mashleys way forward of having us relegated or scrapping for relegation is the way forward.

  • 333 nufc786 // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Newcastle v Liverpool (17:30)Mark Lawrenson’s predictions

    Liverpool haven’t won in the month of April and have only scored two goals – one or two players look like they’ve run the race.
    They produced a good comeback last week against Chelsea, but we all know Luis Suarez shouldn’t have been on the pitch after biting defender Branislav Ivanovic.
    Continue reading the main story

    Somebody at Liverpool will be making financial calculations in order to work out whether the club are prepared to let him stay or go

    The Uruguayan is now banned for 10 games – that is a really, really big blow for manager Brendan Rodgers. He can be a world-class idiot on the pitch, but he’s a world-class footballer.
    He’ll be really missed by his team-mates and I just have a feeling they will feel a little low and hurt. They’ll all be looking around and thinking ‘what will happen in the next few months?’
    It was already going to be a big summer for Rodgers, with thoughts on bringing in a new central defender and wondering whether goalkeeper Pepe Reina will stay or go. It’s going to be far more challenging now because of the Suarez situation.
    He misses about 20% of the games in the season not through injury or poor form, but because he’s suspended. Somebody at Liverpool will be making financial calculations in order to work out whether the club are prepared to let him stay or go.
    I think Newcastle will win this one.
    Lawro’s prediction: 2-0

  • 334 tooninspain // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Trash…..I bet you’re great fun at parties. You know, the bloke who everyone looks at and says “Don’t go and sit next to that ffart , he’s a bloody bore. He talks about the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over….”

  • 335 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Do you think being called goofy or buggs bunny in every single match he plays sometimes gets to Suarez, surely it would be easier to slyly kick or elbow someone than inconspicuously bite them, the bite related issues must definitely be related to his comical teeth.

  • 336 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:17 PM


    I’d have thought he’d have been more clever with the bite given how he put’s a lot of thought into punching and beating the opponents.

    Maybe we should be feeling sorry for the poor fella…naahhh the guy’s a feral racists w****r

    Still a fantastic player.

  • 337 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Until one day, you called me a pr’ck for my anti Ashley posts, I had never even come across your sporadical or meaningless writings, why do you feel the need to constantly snipe at me when you would be better served concentrating on your views of NUFC.

  • 338 tooninspain // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Trash… you say ….you’re a pr1ck. And a prize one at that. You even said the other day that your “moniker” was childish.

  • 339 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:32 PM


  • 340 Jackel001 // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    These adds are p!ssing me off! On the laptop i can cope but when I’m supposed to be at work… On the iPhone its such a faff on!

  • 341 Jail for Ashley // Apr 25, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Unless you’re a computer whizz, how do you get them turned off, is it down to Ed or is there a simple procedre, because they’re seriously pi $$ ing me off.

  • 342 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Daniel Agger would be a good signing. Stefano Denswil looks a great centre half. He can also fill in at left back.

    Also expect us to sign someone like Jay Kunt.

  • 343 Ian Toon // Apr 26, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    Jail- @332 Good Morning. As I said yesterday I am a fan of empirical evidence but not your means of determining whether Ashley’s way is the right way. ( I’ve deliberately not followed my usual paint a picture style because it bores you rigid-Lol). As you chat to different people in your move around the ground I assume your chatting for the first time! Therefore as in any study/ questionaire it depends how the subject/question is fashioned/ raised and whether the other party wants to be seen to be agreeable. At times of poor team performance or whether we’re in sight of victory when you engage in the conversation. Or indeed whether you’ve given the fan an ear bashing and he just wants to watch the game(LOL). Assuming you’ve read this far and not fallen asleep let me tell you what I have observed. That is that the younger fan ( 35 and under) is less positive and supportive, of Ashley than the older fan. I’ll not go into why that might be. Many football issues are time related- with the you can only ever have one scapegoat at any one time. Very noticeably post mackem defeat the flack Pardew has had. Asking your fan at the game after Ashley failed to dig deep and then after he has you’ll get very different answers. As in the constant regurgitation debate on Pardew very little new is discussed. Certainly when statistics are increasingly presented by Catchy and Beattie you know they’ve lost the debate. As with most issues there’s shades of- not everything is right about Pardew or indeed wrong. Ibiza is right, to summarise simply a more cogent argument , Pardew hasn’t done enough wrong to justify being sacked.
    The Jury are still out as indeed they still are with Ashley.

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