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Time For Pardew To Give Up Defending Sunderland Loss

10:35 am, Friday, April 26th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 313 Comments

Alan Pardew keeps defending the performance against Sunderland – simply because he keeps getting asked about it by the reporters – -but he should just give up this nonsense about his players being tired – it just doesn;t wash, and makes Newcastle fans angry.

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Alan Pardew – during the Sunderland loss

And Alan is refusing to say it’s been a bad season – so what planet is Alan living on these days?

We did well in Europe – no doubt about that – but this is probably going to turn out to be the second worst season on points in the Premier League ever for our club – since we got 34 points four years ago and took the drop.

The next lowest points total is 43 points, which we achieved twice in successive seasons in 2006-2007 and then 2007-2008.

This is what Alan said in the local press today:

“It’s strange, but after the Benfica game it was all very positive. “In retrospect, maybe the fact that our performance was so strong and that the crowd had such a great reaction against Benfica, played a part in the Sunderland game.”

“Perhaps even our fans thought we were going to win that the derby comfortably (we thought that), but it doesn’t work like that. ” (why not?)

“I don’t think we’re under any illusions about what we need to do, but we’re playing against a really good side and we’re going to have to be a full tilt to beat them.”

“I know our fans are intelligent enough to know that we’re not just going to turn up and steam-roller Liverpool. That’s not going to happen. “This is going to be a really tight game, but hopefully a game where we can get three valuable points.”

It’s hard for Newcastle fans to understand – after we played so well against Benfica, and nearly got through to the quarter finals of the Europa League – why we couldn’t beat a side who had three draws and six defeats in their previous nine games and had difficulty scoring goals.

And they beat us 3-0 at home. :(

And I could go on and say they had only scored 7 goals in their previous 9 games – but I wont because I’m getting depressed. 😀

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313 responses so far ↓

  • 1 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Catchy – previous thread

    If you’re ” waiting for the right club’ it sure as hell isn’t the Toon given you’r endless whinging – please go elsewhere

  • 2 toon22 // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    You think AP has finally seen that we dont want to talk about some football match with the unwashed anymore.
    Imo he needs to act instead of talk,lets see a performance against Liverpool,for the full 90 mins
    Lets see the reaction he keeps bleeting on about,lets see it or its more cheap words.

  • 3 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    So its our fault now pardew for thinking we might have a chance of winning the derby? Wow. Still no fault of your own was it? Of course not silly me.

  • 4 // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    After reading what Catchy, Beattie25, Rotonda and the guys from “that clan” writes, i actually think those are the most realistic guys on here.
    Then you can debate if a fan should be more of an optimistic kind of person. In the stadium YES, of course! But this is a blog and i kind of like the realistic views on tactics, the manager and the players.

    My main problem besides extremely boring football under Pardew is his lack of motivating skills. How many times have we seen our players not turn up at all, or just last 45mins?

    I would love a new manager, but i think Ashley will give Pardew one last chance and prove that the 8 year contract wasn’t another big mistake made by him self.

  • 5 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM


    west ham stats,

    hmmm this is where i feel pardew plays football, with stats, as long as he can say he had possesion, shot from 40 yards, passed the ball to death in his own half, he feels like he is doing good,
    around this time, he was saying we were a passing team, when the stats said we were a long ball team, the most long ball in the league,

    west brom

    we are talking about a 45 min spell, where he new his job is on the line, he needed a reaction, and over 90 mins, he didnt get one,

    benifca,, for me its not hard,, its a cup game, score more, if you do you go through, leaving it to the last 20 mins to go for it, when you know you have to score 2 was madness,

    benfica, sat back, they were winning the tie, we went at them, and they came back at us when they needed to,

    pooor pooor game plan

  • 6 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    “I know our fans are intelligent enough to know that we’re not just going to turn up and steam-roller Liverpool. That’s not going to happen. “This is going to be a really tight game, but hopefully a game where we can get three valuable points.”

    Overcautious again – he’s definitely lost his bottle. There is a subtle difference between being realistic and being optimistic and Pards has missed it completely. If we are really up for it we should beat them – end of.
    This looks like a 1-0 team talk. Even I’m losing patience with this guy !

  • 7 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM


    more like yawn-yawn

  • 8 perchy4england // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Bit harsh on blaming pardew for talking about the derby, it’s the journo’s who would be asking him the questions about it. Definitely need something out of the game tomorrow or it’ll be squeaky bum time!

  • 9 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    yo-yo…Depends on what’s being said to the players, as it doesn’t have to be the same as what he says to fans to try and control expectations.

    Truth is, before Sunderland a fair few, myself included, thought we’d batter the mackems. Once again, with Suarez out, expectations and importance of this game has risen, I just see it as trying to keep some sort of control.

    However, he may well be saying the same to the players…

    Rainrix….In the full interview he actually expands it to “in particular, it’s R Dawwwwgggs fault”.

    Catchy…Then we shall leave it that we have differing opinions, who would have thought that would be the conclusion?!? :)

  • 10 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM


    regardless of what he is asked, he has the right to answer with what ever words he likes,

    he choses to blame everyone/everything else,

    he could just say it was a bad day at the office,, we all have them

  • 11 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Catchy…For sh*ts and giggles, what would you be saying on here If Pardew had said “it was just a bad day at the office”.

    I can imagine something along the lines of “I think you mean bad year in the office – Pardew out!”

  • 12 NUFC_LEAZES END // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Feel sorry for John carver.
    He’s went from working with a football god, to working with a clueless cockney

  • 13 Santon03 // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Guys… don’t just pray we will win any game this season, but pray the other teams below us not winning, it’s more important. Because I have lost all hope on us winning anymore games, I know it’s sad… but it’s the reality. This way we can avoid being disapointed or frustrated.

  • 14 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Ibiza…. Yup sounds about right. Stupid me for thinking we could beat a team that had barely scored 3 goals all season. What was i thinking! All my fault sorry guys stop attacking pardew its all my fault for dreaming we could achieve something!

  • 15 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Yo Yo

    It’s a forum. Catchy’s got every right to voice his opinions
    and not be abused by people who have an alternative viewpoint.

    Are your contributions worth more because you don’t happen to agree?

  • 16 Newcastle Brown Alien // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    I think everyone should forget the sunderland game, it was a loss, simple, we had a good goal chalked off, and all 3 of there goals was from outside the box, they were lucky to go in, i’m not defending the performance, but get on with it

  • 17 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    just clear your desk

  • 18 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Rainrix…Good man, shows a lot of character.

    Rotonda…Very true. Pretty sure Catchy has thrown abuse at others during his time on here though.

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM


    It would be amusing if we could compile all the excuses and possible non – truths Pardew has produced this season.

    Wouldn’t it be great if we had a manager who didn’t divide opinion so much and who we all really believed in.

    Pardew’s already bigging up Liverpool who will be without their main man.

    Ian Toon

    Re – Rodgers and Pardew’s comments. Shocking by Rodgers but 2 wrongs don’t make a right or excuse Pardew’s nonsense either.

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    It is a Christian holiday here in DK – at an conformation!

    …so what’s happenong in the Toon world today?

  • 21 NUFC_LEAZES END // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Pardew saying that he can take the flack from the fans.

    No you can’t pardew because instead of putting your hands up you blame everything on anything u possibly can

  • 22 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Brown alien

    Are you conveniently forgetting their 2 blatant hand ball and pull back penalty claims against Saylor and the time Graham was through on goal and Saylor claimed he had been pushed but had just fallen over. All not given.

    Yes we had a good goal disallowed but they were more hard done by Webb than us.

  • 23 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    I hate all this type of talk like he’s preparing himself for a softer landing post-match in case a result doesn’t come off for us.

    Alan, get at them and be positive for 90 mins for a change! You have the players to do so, regardless of injuries.

    All this talk he drivels on to the press must filter down to the players. He’s laying the foundations for the players to accept that if we don’t get results it’s OK, because of X, Y and Z excuses. That is not how to relay expectation and demand top performance from his players.

    Cut out the excuses and instill belief and a winning attitude among the players!

    The problem is that his CV doesn’t show that type of positivity being a regularly part of his career to a high enough standard.

    Even though we had points last season through individual moments of brilliance from the quality of some of our players, the general performances were still disjointed and negative. These poor and negative performances have continued this year and again more individual brilliance have literally nicked us points.

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Rotonda…That would be great. Don’t see it happening though, even Bobby Robson had his harsh critics at the toon, not comparing the two, just pointing out that’s fantasy and not going to happen.

  • 25 blew // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Is this guy worse than Souness, Big Sam and King Kenny?
    He is more unpopular for sure

  • 26 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    I was going to add something but to be honest I’m kinda enjoying reading today.

    Everything I would say has already been said.

    Keep up the good work.


  • 27 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Morning Beattie….I have one thing to add to make your comment correct.


    You’re welcome.

  • 28 bzak12 // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Lambsass to Percy
    Alan the natives are getting restless whats the plan for tomorrow.
    Percy- Dont worry Dekker I’ve another cunning plan.We’ve got no hope trying to play football against THEM I’ll say Cisse is injured and bring in Shola then they’ll realise 4-5-1 is the only way we can go. If we’re in trouble I’ll bring on Campbell for the last 10 mins that’ll keep them quiet. Then there is only one home game left by which time other teams will have saved us.
    Brilliant says Dekka Got a wish list for next season?
    Percy You know me Dekka always prepared, for the new coach I was thinking Rory Delap I heard he’s been released by Stoke(no wonder they’re struggling now) and maybe a few big lads Carroll,Crouchy and possibly Huth.
    Dekka- Magic Alan now I see why Mikey gave you a 8 year deal.
    Aagh!! Enough of this I’m depressing myself I’m off to slit my wrists!

  • 29 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Even with me frustrated with Pardew’s continued basic tactical ineptitude, I will still be encouraging the players and singing at every opportunity for the full game tomorrow as usual, regardless of the score, because they need all the help they can get when the players play.

    So never relate fans’ dismay at Pardew’s abysmal outlook on football philosophy, with lack of support for the team on the pitch, or the club, ever. It is just a huge concern which needs voicing on non-match days.

    It’s really frustrating because we have the potential there to be a lot better, performance-wise and results-wise, the team is just being under-utilised, and in the wrong manner.

  • 30 magpie6699 // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    blew – why more unpopular than Shoemess and BFS? Their records were not good – seem to remember we finished near the bottom with Souness and certainly never got near top 5 or Europe.

  • 31 GeordieDan // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Heard Pardew saying earlier re Liverpool game:
    “But if we lose, then we lose that little bit of momentum we gained at West Brom and suddenly you’re fighting again to try to get those three points. It’s a different pressure.”

    If ANY manager allows a team with as much quality as ours to go down then they deserve NEVER to manage again. Unlike a couple of years ago when we were last relegated with over paid pensioners this team is young, hungry and arguably more talented then any team we’ve had since Sir Bobby’s days.

    Don’t recall Roeder’s team being spectacular but we managed Europe and the league fine when he was here so what’s different?

    -A crap manager who allow his team to believe its tired and tells them (and everyone else) that every week!

    If someone told me you’re tired, you’re tired every 5 minutes I’d probably feel a bit crap as well and its certainly a convenient excuse to hide behind if you have an off day.

    I’ve made my mind up now that Pardew is WAY out of his depth and really does need to go.

    Looking at it realistically though I think we will survive JUST and he should be shipped until the Summer as it might caused an adverse effect that could see us go down-too much of a gamble.

    BUT…despite all of this I’m 100% sure he will be our manager next season. :(

  • 32 Novocastrian66 // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Blew; he’s all three rolled into one, with a bit of Glen Roeder sprinkled on top.
    Have you noticed when Pardew is shown on TV scouting other teams he always wearing a pair of glasses. He never has them on in the dug out. Perhaps if he started wearing them when we’re playing he would be able to see how shit we are!

  • 33 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM


    I don’t shout and scream PARDEW OUT 20-30 times a da,.
    endelssly chanting the same mantra. This is a verbal battering not an opinion. When Catchy comments on a range of football matters, as he occasionally does, then I’m all ears, as it is then worthy or attention – as are your own opinions when they don’t always conclude with the same shout

  • 34 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    @32 hahahah

  • 35 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    C’mon lads cheer up.

    Pardew’s promised us we’ll finish mid-table next season.
    Get the open-topped bus out of mothballs and get your street parties planned.

  • 36 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    where in the champonship come on now please

  • 37 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Back from nonsense… What does Leverage and Going Forward really mean??? Who Cares… Pardew IN… :)

  • 38 Jayk // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    get rid of the stupid pop up ads!

  • 39 Trent Toon // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    From the way Ed is writing I think he wants AP gone also!

  • 40 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    On my day off and every thread is Pardew making excuse after excuse rather than growing a pair and accepting the blame, although we know he is too stubborn (or stupid) too change. You can imagine in training a coversation going domething like this

    Cabaye- “Alan can we try a different set piece instead of me aiming for Taylor at the back post? , it has been over 400 corners since we scored”

    Pardew – “Yohan we was getting closer, keep it up”

    It must go something like that because nothing has changed. Anyway back to Fallout New Vegas 😉

  • 41 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    i dont think anyone can say he has done a good job he has no excuse players also he must be moved along with the dross

  • 42 DevonMag // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    ARRRGHHHHHH he’s rolled out the “our fans our intelligent” line AGAIN. Of ALL the bullsh*t that Pardew comes out with that condescending nonsense is by far the worst.

  • 43 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Did anyone think that AP looked rather dejected yesterday… I think he is really hurting… Well I mean his Ego is… He knows he’s in the sh1t.. and seems to be looking to everyone to help… He cant say crap about full stadiums and the fans plea crap anymore as he knows he has spent all his good grace with us lot… Getting to stay in the Premiership is embarassing… like we should be lucky or something… Having Norwich easily beat us and be clear of relegation shows Hoots should have stayed and I know he thinks that we think that…

  • 44 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Next season I hope the humiliating FA Cup 3rd round exit is to Hartlepool or Carlisle then at least we don’t have travel to far.

    We love you Alan, such great memories …

  • 45 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    probably be brighton again with that thug at the back snapping someones leg seen by an offical but ignored by fa

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Are the same fans intelligent enough to realise that a team that sets out to finish mid table should think twice about renewing their season tickets.

  • 47 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    @Jail – How much is a season ticket by the by?

  • 48 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Premium Areas Adult:


    Standard Areas (Adult):


    These include the £30 membership charge (!)

  • 49 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    A lot of money to see the second half sitting back on a 1 nil lead.

  • 50 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Just had to ring the tax office and got the Scumderland branch instead of the Newcastle – it was like talking to a bairn – they’d messed up my tax code and it was like talking to a brick wall.. No wonder its such a dismal place

  • 51 davis_toons // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Pardew is now talking more like “Tony Pulis” of Newcastle. He is talking nothing of technical or tactical stuff.

    Its all about running harder, working harder, tossing the ball further. I hope the players remains as technical as it is.

  • 52 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Take away Defending Sunderland Loss from that headline… We all know Ed… We know…

    Thanks for popping up the prices… Jeez thats aint cheap….

  • 53 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    There is a young persons area and family area as well which the prices are £399 and £378 for adults.

  • 54 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM


    We really do need this guy to deliver over the next four games. Yeh he’s hurting – deservedly – and unless he gets the team pumped up he’ll be hurting us too.
    He does talk in platitudes like any other PR guy – imo most managers speak total bullshite most of the time

    I’ll give him till the end of September if he keeps us up, after that its decision time.

  • 55 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Student, Senior Citizen and Junior prices as well of course. I just put adults cos they’re the top price.

  • 56 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Anyone know what time we should be hearing about Suarez?

    Did we ever decide or find out whether there was in fact a way he could play tomorrow?

  • 57 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    davis @ 51

    and the last thing we need is a load of tossers on the pitch …..however technically

  • 58 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    What did I read and hear on Talk Sport… isn’t it £9 to get in to see Dortmund?

    We should be capping wages in premier league to reduce ticket prices. There’s no excuse for a stadium which isn’t full.

  • 59 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Ibiza, Sky Sports were running the news that he’s definitely out for the first three games, i.e. tomorrow.

  • 60 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Kirky..Cheers. It’s what I thought would be the case, as they may be able to argue the length, but surely the minimum 3 games would start immediately.

  • 61 low fell mag // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Do you jail for ashley have a season ticket,probably not .No doubt your one of the Keeganites. Turn up when your teams wining and when its not blame anybody,from the chairman to the manager as it is a great excuse to go to the local boozer have a couple of pints and scream abuse at the tv.I ve got you sussed.No doubt if we were to get to wembley for a cup final you will be screaming for a ticket,im i right..YES.

  • 62 GeordieDan // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:37 PM


    SkySports says Liverpool will make an annoucement on Suarez imminently. Just waiting for it to come up now….

  • 63 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM


  • 64 davis_toons // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Yes, we really can’t compare Sir bobby with pardew, Sir Bobby is an international manager. ap is just a small potato.

    So this conclude that we need to give AP more time to grow into something. And alot more time to make our club a challenging one.

    Owner is the one that wanted someone cheaper and that is what we have got.

    Pardew = A young raw talent manager that got some experience but not so successful due to : reason given : not enough time to prove his worthy.

    Mike is giving him a chance as promised, to complete his task for 6 years and we’ll see what is like thereafter.

    With pardew we have 4 years left. Its going to take some patient to watch those football.

  • 65 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    low fell mag

    Not commenting on jail, i know his situation and will let him reply.

    But in general why would you pay a fortune to go to every game, 6/700 for a season ticket plus probably £30/40 a game travel/drinks/food for the day when i get served up garbage.

    I watch football to enjoy it not mindlessly follow. If i don’t like what i see I vote with my feet, and rightly so.

  • 66 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Havin’ dinner in a sec, so will catch the latest report on the hour.

    You can get Sky Sports in Ibiza can’t you Ibiza? I was there before at my friend’s aunty’s villa and they had it. Was around the time Souness was appointed.

  • 67 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    also I have no fear of relegation….average points total for survival in last 10 years is 36 points, we have 37. no guarantee but close enough in my view.

    Also we have 4 games, if we just attack all of them we are bound to win one, especially qpr or west ham….not sure why we can’t just got for it.

    A defensive game will get us a couple draws really, nothing more.

  • 68 Ba Humbug // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    You guys slating Pardew, just accept that a football club goes through ups and downs. Last season was one of the most exciting i can remember for us, some great goals and an exciting team.

    The world isnt going to end just because we’re going through a rough patch!

  • 69 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    added not much chance of a final with this setup

  • 70 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    wahoo 69

  • 71 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Kirky…Yeah, don’t have it in my office though. SS website will update at some point :)

  • 72 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    ba humbug

    You need to get whats best though. And whilst not all agree, a fair few question pardew now. If you think you can get a new manager who would do better with what you have and bring even more entertainment then why not push for it?

    Change doesn’t happen unless it costs. Ashley might not lose much in tv money if we stay in prem league but if we start getting lower gates, players wanting away so leaving on a lower fee, thats what hurts ashley and what will force his hand.

    Also if he wants top half/europe not getting that will cost him money which will force his hand too.

  • 73 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Yo Yo-Yo,

    Yeah I know… maybe its just us and the fact that we really are still raging about this season and especially losing to the Mackems… but I think Pardew is spent… I best he wishes it was over tomorrow… Interesting thing I read about was when he was at Readinga dnWest Ham wanted him – he basically gave up on the squad and was dejected that he couldnt go.. He seems rather childish and selfish… not a Man-Management genuis we are all lead to believe… I wish he had DiCanio’s honesty… just get out there and say it… sometimes its better as it takes away from the team and focusses on the manager… that is what he is there to do.. take the heat off… Sad little puppy act is pathetic…

  • 74 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    How come so many pieces of journalism have us down as scoring from 1 corner all season when its actually 0? Case in point…

  • 75 Jackel001 // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Liverpool to make statement on Suarez, the deadline was 12 for them to make an appeal or are they going to say that they are appealing it…

  • 76 bzak12 // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Some big money being placed with Paddy Power on next manager to be sacked!

  • 77 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM


    not sure, i have looked through our goals and cant see which one they think was a corner.

  • 78 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    bzak…Money being placed on Pardew or managers in general?

  • 79 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    the appeal is irrelevant to us.

    it won’t mean he can play, they are appealing the 7 game additional ban on top of the 3 game for violent conduct. He will be out of our game.

  • 80 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Jesus – he 1/5 ON for getting the sack..!!!!

  • 81 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Sage… When Ed mentions corners he points to bas handball against reading which was from a fergie cross not a corner. I wonder if its just a passed along stat from journalists or from official stats. Either way its wrong.

  • 82 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Latest Odds…

  • 83 Jackel001 // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM


    Cheers for clearing that up, had me worried haha

  • 84 GeordieDan // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM


    I think it was from that cross Shane Ferguson put in for the headed goal by Ba(or was it Cisse) early in the season.

    Was from open play but it seems the press remember it as a corner?

  • 85 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Just heard some gossip pardew is finished. He will be leaving in the summer, walking away, mutual termination of contract.

    Not sure how accurate this is but I will keep digging as and see what is said.

    I know it’s different to what Proud said llambias told him last weekend so not sure how accurate this is.

  • 86 bzak12 // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    On Percy come in from 50/1 at midday to 11/2 at present.

  • 87 GeordieDan // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    …Actually I remember it was Ba’s “header” although it was actually handled into the back of the net. :)

  • 88 low fell mag // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Transfer sage ,no arguments with you,but how this bloke jail for Ashley has no case for defence in slagging off Ashley. Ipay no where near that amount for my ticket and i wont for the next 9 years because of the chairman and i have seen my team this season win 9 games at home ,hopefully 10 come Saturday evening.

  • 89 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    GeordieDan… As i said at 81 thats what ed says and it was from open play for sure. Dunno why they struggle with this one like 😐

  • 90 Ian Toon // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    I remember reading about the England team interview scam during the 1998 World Cup. Alan Shearer and other players had a bet that during live TV interviews they would compete to see who could bring song titles into their answers to questions posed. I thought of this because it seems that posters increasingly are finding any means to link in criticism of Pardew. Please give it a rest and let’s have something else to read.
    I share your frustration it’s driving many off the blog

    What’s happened to Tsunki he’s always good for a laugh. I mean he always makes me laugh.

  • 91 toonbrother // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    this isnt just any dummy. This is pardummy we’re talking about here. A man who thinks he can talk his way to three points.

  • 92 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM


    jail works around the world but says he gets to as many games at home as he can, seems genuine

    Ashley has dont well freezing ticket prices but i still think prem league is way too expensive (not just ashley’s fault, he is only doing same as others).

    Would love it to be more like the german league for cost and how away tickets also count as a free traing ticket for games.

  • 93 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Bzak…Cheers. Not that it actually means much, but worth looking at.

    Transfer…Just noises or from somewhere half credible?

    Ian..Tsunki is still popping by. Think he’s frustrated with the situation and is biding his time…plus the pop ups and redirects on the site aren’t helping apparently :)

  • 94 bzak12 // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Ibizatoon Live in hope!

  • 95 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Thanks Ed,

    Looks like all the crappy popups and new windows have disappeared – here’s hoping

  • 96 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Bzak…I think you and I are hoping for different things with regards to Pardew, but I like the sentiment :)

  • 97 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:09 PM


    Doesn’t Jail work on the rigs ?

  • 98 GeordieDan // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:10 PM


    Yeah, sorry mate. My connections crap today. Its been posting my replies about 5 minutes after submitting them so it looks like I’m answering questions about another 5 people have already addressed. :(

  • 99 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    the voice of reason :)

  • 100 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    gmorning all…

    was late to work this morning, bad traffic, but it was ok, because i realized that was pardews fault as well…

    from here on out, when my boss criticizes me, i willsay it pards fault, like taking a mulligan, to speak…

  • 101 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    yo yo,

    its still happenign here.. :(

  • 102 ToonAndy // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    ED – Youre gona have to slow down on these ads and pop ups mate …. I cant read the blog on my mobile anymore cos of them.

  • 103 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Morning Dok…Seems a fair enough way to handle things :)

  • 104 davis_toons // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    @61 low fell mag,

    Its really nothing wrong about different fans behaviour. No 1 fan can be the same. If there is a need for change to take place it will be silly to insist on it.

    Do you know that sometimes its the fans that took the action to force the club to conclude a reaction.

    Mike is the one that give pardew a chance and he will give Pardew time that he dim fits.

    Mike made a mistake for not bringing enough players in to start off. So he got to admit to his mistake.

    If nothing changes and plans as follows (adding more youth and 1st teamer), it just a season or two to make this squad works. If not, then Pardew problems/ weakness will resurface.

    Ugly losing football, non-passing, not effective, lots of problems.

  • 105 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    yo yo @54…

    pleatittudes… is that like, “blessed are the nufc fans, for they will put up with anything, no matter how bad”? :)

  • 106 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    ibiza, how are you buddy?

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Dok…Fairly well mate, how about you?

  • 108 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back By Popular Demand

    can i just try and defend myself a little here,,

    i think if you go back and check every argument iv had with ppl, i have never been the one starting it

    like today, never said a word to yawn-yawn, but still got attcket from him,

    all i can say is, at least im not to faced ( not saying you are) my stance along with a few others on here, has not changed one bit,

    and i would go as far as to say, we have been right about what we say about pardew all along

    i thank you 😀

  • 109 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    No ladies in the toon…eh? Dang!!!!

  • 110 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:23 PM


    another day, another nickel.. before taxes :)

  • 111 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Catchy…I will have to take your word on that (as I don’t think there is enough time left in my life to check EVERY argument you’ve had with someone on here), wasn’t suggesting you throw the first blow so to speak, but you certainly know how to give it back, which is fair enough. Would hardly portray you as a victim mind, you seem to have no problem calling people losers along with Pardew just because they view things differently than yourself.

    No surprise on that last line, you’ve said you were right from day 1 😉

  • 112 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Dok…Any thoughts on tomorrows game?

  • 113 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Robben has been put on transfer list… Interesting??? A steal at 7m…

  • 114 davis_toons // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    When comparing Spur, even when losing 2-3, 1-3,-0-2, scoreline, the fans knew that they can come back from this losses.

    Because they play proper football, creating chances after chances to make it work, game after game.

    But with no “style of play” you will never know when we will score or will we score.

    When we got 5th last season, we are one of the defence against the best attack ManCity.

    Pardew hermit crab style, took us there. Then got busted.
    Now we have different sets of players and we need to play differently.

    Pardew got to get it right. When Soton, Swansea and other managers can do it with much less. (Cardiff could be another)

  • 115 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    ichrisho….Really? £7m is decent, imagine wages may be an issue though.

  • 116 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Ibiza.. His wages would be what??? About 180,000 a week so yeah I guess.. we are out of it…

  • 117 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Hi guys, got a little nugget to illustrate how much we are a team of two halves.

    if all our games ended at half time we would be in 9th place on 45 points, three points behind 5th place.

    If all our games this season started at half time we would be 19th on 34 points with only reading below us. (imagine if you took out cisse’s last minute winners)

    we have dropped 18 points from winning positions this season, which is the 14th worst out of the twenty teams (saints 29 dropped in 20th position).

    In the 11 games we have been losing at half time this season we have only managed to gain 2 points from these games. The fourth worst in the league.

    Sorry for all the stats, im writing an article on the season and have found some interesting stuff, thought id share a few on topic ones.

  • 118 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM


    Nothing credible, not my friend at the club. Just a couple mates said they heard it it different places, rumour site/twitter…so not reliable really.

    Just wondered if it tied in with odds dropping as somebody mentioned it earlier.

  • 119 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    ichrisho…Somewhere around that, not much really! :)

  • 120 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Isn’t Robben 30 and a complete tool in the dressing room?

  • 121 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    TS…Fair enough. Taking it all with a pinch of salt, when you have this many angry fans rumours will be going around like crazy.

    cj…Not good reading. Who do you write for?

  • 122 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Rotonda…I think 29, but yes, that is my understanding too.

  • 123 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM


    always selfish and causes unrest…very good player though but goetze is his replacement…him, muller and ribery behind the striker.

  • 124 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:39 PM


    :) i have no problem sticking up for myself and dishing it out

    and truth be told, there are only a few on here that i have time for

    but like i say, seems like a lot of these guys that do have a go at me, are now saying the very thing i have been sayiing all along, yet they still dont like me cos i say it,,

    fact is , i love that bit,, ,akes them look a little silly

  • 125 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:42 PM


    despite the lack of pressing, i am an optimist… i want to believe we’ll get all three points, but my bankroll says a draw, unfortunately… sissoko nets one in the 7th minute… SJP is electric, and then we turtle, and allow them an added time goal.. again…

  • 126 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Sage @ 85

    Please don’t wind me up !!! best news ever if true, but you never know with ash it could be another JFK scenario or maybe , just maybe he’s learning and the penny is dropping. Good players need a good manager.

  • 127 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Catchy…Being completely honest, I think many posters big issue with you is that you only seem to comment when there is a negative angle to be had. There doesn’t appear to have been a time in the past 2 years or so when you’ve joined in with anything good and that can’t be right, even Rotonda who has never liked Pardew from day one has joined in when the going has been good (or better than terrible for arguments sake).

    By doing so, you’ve allowed yourself to become the villian, which you seem to enjoy, hence the constant claims of you being a WUM.

    I think a lot of people can actually see you make some good points, but it gets lost.

  • 128 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:47 PM


    If i’m being honest it’s no more than gossip, just heard a few say it and also people talking here about odds on him going dropping 500% is a big sign something could be happening.

    could be inside knowledge or just a lot of bets being put on

  • 129 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Suarez….Down and out :)

  • 130 davis_toons // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    1 Manchester United 34 43 84
    2 Manchester City 33 29 68
    3 Arsenal 34 30 63
    4 Chelsea 33 31 62
    5 Tottenham Hotspur 33 17 61
    6 Everton 34 13 56
    7 Liverpool 34 19 51
    8 West Bromwich Albion 33 -1 45
    9 Swansea City 33 1 42
    10 West Ham United 34 -7 42

    Bottom half

    11 Fulham 34 -8 40
    12 Southampton 34 -7 39
    13 Norwich City 34 -20 38
    14 Sunderland 34 -7 37
    15 Stoke City 34 -11 37
    16 Newcastle United 34 -17 37
    17 Aston Villa 34 -27 34
    18 Wigan Athletic 33 -23 31
    19 Queens Park Rangers 34 -27 24
    20 Reading 34 -28 24

    Looking at these table to achieve top 10 will not be easy as well. When we have have the consistent top 7.

    It is 8-10 placing that pardew have to land if not it will be very risky for him to say top 10 even.

  • 131 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    you can make stats say anything top and bottom of it is he is still a rubbish manager devoid of common sense

  • 132 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    cjtoon – You should sent that onto NUFC with subject line: FAO Pardew: Just some Facts…

    Ibiza – I am sure we all can find that kinda monies lying around.. Big Mike has loads on him… :)

  • 133 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Ba Humbug

    it’s probably been said so many times. if poor old Raylor hadn’t got injured I seriously doubt hen we were ever going to see Benny.

    As it was Pardew was forced to accommodate Ba, Cisse and Benny in a 433 and away we went. For some reason and only a loon would do this, he ditched it and we have been awful pretty much ever since.

    That and some great bits of fortune and individual brilliance for the aforementioned Ba, Cisse and Benny
    gave Pardew his good season,

    However, in a career of nearly 15 years Pardew’s had as many ups as downs with no consistency and currently has us playing the most cautious mind numbing football with the best group of players we’ve probably ever had I can ever remember seeing.

  • 134 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    problem with football stats is they are basic

    possession, shots, etc etc don’t mean anything alone, need to know where the possession was, where were the shots fired from, etc etc

  • 135 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    TS – I’d say he would not fit in at all… but its a quality player on the market – lets hope there is a lot more so we can get in early…

  • 136 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    ichrisho…I’ll leave it to you to rummage around in Mikes pockets 😉

  • 137 Novocastrian66 // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    I’m still experiencing problems with pop-ups. Sage, given your info was a successor mentioned? Personally I do not think it will happen and it is pure speculation. I cannot see Pardew to agree to stay until the end of the season then leave.

  • 138 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM


    too much money for us with wages, which is fine with me. i think we need to follow the dortmund model.

  • 139 Jail for Ashley // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    low fell mag,
    Were you at white hart lane in 89 wearing a sombrero .

  • 140 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:01 PM


    Nope, it was just my friends telling me off rumours, nothing from a proper contact.

    I will keep digging and asking but don’t get that info normally, its more business side so it gets pieced together with internal rumour/other stories to try and get an accurate guess for want of a better phrase.

  • 141 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    el tel for stoppy up job

  • 142 Jail for Ashley // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    or 88 even

  • 143 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Constantly reading comments such as “give it a rest with the Pardew bashing” which I think is somewhat unfair to those who are being critical of him.

    When I was a big defender of Pardew I didn’t mind having discussions/arguments with those who were against him as long as they were rational coherent arguments, and now that I can’t stand the man I have no problem discussing things with those who defend him, as long as they are rational coherent arguments also.

    But for some people to turn round and tell others to simply stop it purely because it frustrates them seem to forget the purpose of the blog; to discuss all things NUFC, and Pardew’s suitability or lack thereof is a big talking point right now, and as long as we’re respectful of each other’s point of view and back up our arguments then what’s the issue?

    Oh, and Pardew out 😉

  • 144 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    YO Yo

    It must have started to occur to you that catchy and myself are hardly alone in our opinions any more. There is a growing number of people who have seen enough is enough. You can only take watching endless c..p for so long.

    For the pro-Pardew group it really is a triumph of hope over experience that you think the guy will magically change and produce a winning mentality and exciting attractive football from the 1st to the 95th minute.

    Devon @ 42

    Excellent point, very patronising and unfortunate comment to go along with his many others.

  • 145 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:10 PM


    It’s very individual supporting somebody though. So no matter what you or others say they will never convince the other side they are wrong until something clicks in either their or your mind.

    If you suddenly saw consistent good football then you might change. If this goes on with good players fit a lot of others will change their mind.

  • 146 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Ruddy…Give it a rest you neggar 😉

  • 147 Jail for Ashley // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    I would like to see Mike Ashley imprisoned for crimes against humanity.

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:14 PM


    I’m in like some sort of parallel universe…haha

  • 149 Joe Blog // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Could talk the hind legs off a donkey, this sap.

    Please leave Pardew, perhaps of your own volition after the final game, have the good grace to say:”How I’ve been given chances to manage in the PL I’ll never know, but I’ve made a fair wedge and will now return to my rightful place in the lower leagues.”.

    MA really needs to hire a proven, respected continental manager, or an up and coming modern one, with fresh ideas and fizz!

  • 150 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Ruddy…I’m thinking of going back and copy and pasting your arguments to use against you. Will save a load of time, so thanks for that :)

    “Deep inside of a parallel universe, It’s getting harder and harder, To tell what came first” – Thanks to Lyrics 007.

  • 151 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    low fel mag

    You are the mort repugnant and idiotic poster on this blog.

    You have nothing interesting to add to any debate and instead spend your time insulting others or making yourself look better than others.

    You truly are an insecure weirdo who gets joy out of being a cock.

    It’s none of your business how often anyone goes on a match. There are people on here that have been on thousands and some that have never even been to St James Park but that should never be a measurement of a fans support.

    If a fan chooses not to go, watch it on the tv and shout abuse that’s his choice it doesn’t make him less of a fan.

    Following blindly and not having a well thought out argument, a nicely constructed opinion or the balls to say ‘no this isn’t right!’ makes you a lesser fan

    I don’t get on with everyone on here, some people I think have daft opinions but at least they have ones relating to the football club and how bes to take it forward and not some stupid crusade to insult people who might not support Newcastle united as much as you think you do.

  • 152 John Tudor // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    a cardboard cutout of mourinio would have been better

  • 153 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM


    The easiest way to escape a losing argument is to say ‘lets stop arguing’.

  • 154 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    ibiza – well it started off with a few mates trying to argue that one pardew excuse was more valid than another. I was fed up with listening to them so i thought i would write an article about any stats i could find to prove/disprove his ‘excuses’.

    What i envisaged was a couple of pages with some stats and a bit of annotation but im currently 9392 words (33 pages) in and still have a few things to cover.

    So not really writing it for anyone in particular, just a fan trying to analyse the season really, fair to say i have gotten pretty carried away though.

  • 155 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM


    i think respectful discussion is the key :)

  • 156 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    “Enough is enough and it’s time for a change”
    Owen Hart

  • 157 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM


    Well wether it absolves him or pins the blame on him I am eagerly awaiting your assessment.

    I’d love more of us to do things like that.

  • 158 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    cj…Wow. Are you any further forward in regards to a conclusion other than you never want to type another word ever again? :)

  • 159 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    gmorning beattie,

    agreed on the part of how many games attended does not make one more of a fan, i thank you :)

    next season, when i get my 1st visit to church, id be happy to buy you a pint sir…

  • 160 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:29 PM


    Have you just met me? Losing an argument? 😉 Just kidding.


    Well instead of being disingenuous to my previously held beliefs I think I’ve just seen enough from Pardew to firmly think that he is just never going to get the best from this group of players, I’ve seen too many poor performances, too many times when we’ve let lesser teams into our gaff and let them bowl us over, and enough is truly enough.

    Now the only slack I will give him is the chance to overcome these mitigating factors and allow him to start next season with a fresh fit squad, new signings and see what he can do with it, but I have my doubts over the success he will have given this opportunity, not only will the results need to be right but the performances must be better.

    Also, it would so refreshing if he did what the likes of Mourinho and Moyes do, whenever they’re rubbish they admit it! Pardew has an excuse for everything! It’s maddening.


    Sounds easy to be respectful doesn’t it? This blog proves otherwise haha

  • 161 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:29 PM


    I’d buy you one in return as long as its happy hour.

  • 162 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM


    Intense commitment, I salute you!

  • 163 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM


    As long as you guys are getting the pints in mine’s is a Jameson on the rocks 😉

  • 164 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    well im trying to be objective however in writing such a thing obviously i do express some subjective views. I think i have found some quite interesting things out Especially relating to the injury & fatigue excuses.

    Ibiza – yes its like writing my dissertation all over again but this time im actually interested in the subject/outcome. However not typing another word sounds pretty good right now, hence im writing on here and not adding to it.

  • 165 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    I still think its dangerous giving Pardew 6 months probation (wether it is called that or not).

    I thinks it’s more important for the owner to come out and say ‘he’s got our full support’ or sack him in the summer.

    Sacking him in the summer gives a new manager a good amount of time to settle and not have the pressure to come in a try and save a season.

    Backing him will let the playing team and staff relax knowing he’s here for the long term.

    If there is silence on part of the board and no action in either support or firing him then everyone will feel unde pressure and perhaps players in the team who don’t like his tactics will start to force the issue and divide the dressing room.

    It’s a dangerous game is waiting. We need action. Back him or sack him, don’t give him 6 more months.

  • 166 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    I’d love it if we all presented our own thesis on the season.

    It’d get me through the Summer.

  • 167 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Back him until the end of next season… If we get lower than 10th – he’s out!!!

  • 168 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    cj…Come on then, cut to the chase :) Is he just talking complete rubbish in your opinion?

    Ruddy…We shall see what happens. Either way, I do expect some changes over the next 6 months, if not at the club in some shape, then likely my views.

    If everyones getting drinks in, I’ll have a skimmed milk.

  • 169 DokToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    beattie, no need to splurge on my part..

    ruddy, got u covered…

    only thing i take offense to is when someone the other day called me a joker… now i know im on the other side of the pond, but where i grew up, the term joker is a derogatory gay slur… hence why i told him not to address me… were a passionate lot, nufc fans, but that kind of s**t bothers me… we are on the sime side, after all, just differing points and views is all…

  • 170 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    We defo should all arrange to meet up in the toon for a night out and a match… be quality idea for next season if it can be arranged… what ye think?

  • 171 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Dok – Is it a gay card in poker? :)

  • 172 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM


    Stop being so impatient. Would you ask a friend to tell you the end of a film so you didn’t have to watch it?

  • 173 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Dok…Never heard that term used that way before. Best one for me, was asking someone for a fag in a bar, not the best approach, especially in Palm Springs 😉

  • 174 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Beattie…Surely you’re not going to lecture me on being impatient? :)

    I haven’t seen cj say he’s even going to publish it for us to read, he said it was more for him and his mates and he got carried away, so was just looking for his feelings on things.

    To answer your question, depends on the film.

  • 175 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Dok – apologies… that wasnt funny… :)

  • 176 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:45 PM


    Suppose the “joker” reference could have simply been a matter of being lost in translation, I’m sure he didn’t intend to make a homosexular slur, so we really need to be careful, one time I said this guy had the brains of a monkey and he accused me of racism, despite the fact that I didn’t know he was black. Also I didn’t actually call him a monkey but you never know how people will react to what is said.

    Get the Jameson in though and we’ll have no problems haha


    Well if the manager is properly backed in the summer window would that not fulfil one of the two options of either backing him or sacking him? They need to do one or the other so we can have some certainty about whether he is truly capable of succeeding at this club.

  • 177 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Totally agree Beattie, its crunch time. Nobody deserves to have the Axe hanging over them for 6 months. Its one ore the other Stick or Twist. Im not Pardew’s biggest fan but i wouldn’t begrudge him another season. Its more about being decisive.

    Indecision in the boardroom could easily lead to fractures in the dressing room. At the end of the day Mike Ashley to his detriment is a shrewd businessman and he will not jeopardize this investment for the sake of any contract/loyalty to Pardew.

    If he decides after the mooted end of season review that an overwhelming proportion of the blame falls on pardew, im sure he wont hesitate to replace him. If he (the review) decides it was a combination of external factors that was the main issue im sure he will Back Pardew and get Llambias to do the televised ‘we are behind the manager’ talk.

  • 178 ichrisho // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    …..Does Steve Stone read this blog? ….

  • 179 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM


    I question what the board would consider to be backing him. They can’t really back him with signings unless they break their own blueprint.

    Signing cheap foreign players with great technical ability isn’t in my opinion backing the manager. It’s having faith in his ability to get the best out of the players bought but stopping short of completely backing him.

    For me we need a new manager who can bring the current team and further additions into a cohesive technical team or we back Pardew by buying the players he can get the best out of.

    You either get a racing driver to drive the race car or you buy a tractor so the farmer can drive that instead. You can’t continue having a farmer drive a race car.

  • 180 BigKirky // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    A key point on the Pardew situation I think, whether he is ‘upgraded’ in the summer or is given another year, is if we are still not challenging for a European place next season and struggling where we are now, there will be a few of the top players who could look for a transfer.

    It’s a bigger risk than just switching the manager or not, as players of ability quite rightly want to achieve the best they can and will want European/Champions League football. We have a number of International footballers who can play at this level.

    The better the quality which we bring in, the players will demand top finishes through their own ambitions.

    We’ve heard quotes from people like Hatem MYM and even Cisse about challenging for titles. Far fetched as it may seem, some of our players are league winners and Santon has won the Champions League hasn’t he?

    They expect a better standard than the team is currently producing and from the quality of player which we possess, I’d say most of the fans do as well.

  • 181 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM


    A strangely apt analogy I think. I just think that the board will still back him by keeping him on for next season and bringing in the same brand of players we’ve been targeting under the current system.

    Whether we agree that this constitutes truly backing him is a subjective assessment of course but I just think this is what the board will do. Then when/if he fails to get the best from the crop of players he has, the board will then have carte blanch when it comes to replacing Pardew.

    Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they did upgrade upon him in the summer.

  • 182 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 2:59 PM


    100% agree.

    What we would consider is the best move will not be the one the board takes.

    I think that applies to both sides of the argument. It will be interesting though from May-July.

  • 183 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    I don’t think giving the guy more and better players is the answer.

    He peferred to play mullins and harewood to world beaters Tevez and Mascherano. Pardew in a nutshell.

    It wouldn’t mask over his coaching deficiencies

  • 184 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Pardew wont be sacked read dirks comments here and his talk of a 15 – 20 year dynasty

    I honestly believe even if we’re relegated pardew will still be here. The board seem comfortable with him for some reason. Oh wait he’s a yes man obviously :)

  • 185 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    ibiza – well imho i have stats that would certainly suggest by enlarge he has preached a substantial amount of rubbish this season.

    The only issue I have with pinning the blame totally on Pardew is the Fact that the board have admitted to their failings in the summer and then strengthened in January.

    In the premier league since the Aston Villa game (the first game with more than one jan signing playing i think) our win ratio has more than doubled. Don’t get me wrong we have played some pretty awful football but the stats would suggest if we had a win ratio of 45.5% all season we would be home and dry. in fact we would probably be seventh-ish.

    Take from that what you will

  • 186 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM


    I really wonder if Pardew can work with the players Carr is being asked to bring in and who is actually asking for those type of players, because if we are honest pardew prefers a lump like carrol

  • 187 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:05 PM


    that’s an old article. football is very fickle and can change in a blink

  • 188 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:05 PM


    I’m trying to convince myself that I will not be annoyed if he is given next season to try and get it right, but it seems that, ironically, the injuries suffered this season have actually worked in his favour in terms of the board allowing him to start next season in charge.

    Let me explain what I mean, had we not suffered the same injuries this season, I still think Pardew would have underperformed (no solid basis for this opinion, just how I see it) and then he would not have had the excuse of injuries to hide behind, meaning that the board would probably been less forgiving with performances this year.

    As it stands, there is a litany of mitigating circumstances that Pardew can hide behind and until a good many of these are taken away i.e insufficient squad depth, injuries, EL football, then Pardew will not be assessed with any real certainty.

    That’s why I think the first 4months of next season will give the clearest indication yet of not only Pardew’s ability, but his ethos and ambition.

  • 189 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    cj….I think that’s really what a lot of this boils down to. Lack of investment / injuries have been the major factor in Pardew succeeding taking in to account what type of manager he is.

    They know what type of manager he is and they hired the cheapest manager in the PL. If you’re going to do that and want to do well, then you have to back him and give him the needed tools.

    After that, it’s a question of whether Pardew can deliver the type of football that will keep fans happy. Overall it hasn’t been there, but there have been glimpses of it, especially last season.

    Still, he needs to find a way to know when’s the time to attack and when to play defensive.

    Beattie…The other way of looking at that is, if the owner of said race car didn’t want to pay for a race car driver, is the farmer not going to do better in the race car than a tractor? It might not be the best, but it will get better results, right?

    Don’t know why I asked that, I’m guessing I’m wrong already.

  • 190 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:11 PM


    Again I agree 100%. I just hope that the board can see past their own mistakes and see the man hiding behind the multitude of excuses and realise that he is not the next Alex Ferguson as they hoped he would be.

  • 191 Rainrix // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Rotonda… Only a couple of months but true things can change. However every thing coming from derek ashley and pards is always talking about the long term plan etc. I honestly think at the end of year appraisal or whatever it’ll simply be chalked up as a blip and minimal talk about pardews shortcomings and then we’ll simply carry on to next season with very little changing.

  • 192 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:18 PM


    When you think about it, Hughton has shown that he is a mid-table manager, and he’s achieved that with a relatively modest squad at Norwich, if the board truly only wanted mid-table they would have kept Hughton in charge, as surely no matter how cheap it is to employ Pardew, it was even cheaper to keep Hughton in charge?

    So, with that in mind, I do think the board want us higher than mid-table, Pardew has shown he can do it, but perhaps not consistently. If another manager became available that would represent a real upgrade in playing style, can operate within the parameters set, and not be an overly expensive acquisition, then I think the board, and MA in particular would be ruthless enough, and certainly shrewd enough to take the plunge.

    Sir Alex Ferguson he most certainly is not. No point creating a dynasty if the basis of said dynasty is mediocre defensive football.

  • 193 Generic Commenter // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Oh my god get Pardew out!! I hate my team being in 16th place!! We should be in 5th place like last year becasue my life was so much better then…….

  • 194 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:20 PM


    Wrong on both accounts.

    Injuries and investment have played their part but have not been the major factor in Pardews bad season. They’ve contributed to the teams poor performances but Pardews handling of them and other contributing factors has to be seen separately. You could say the team has performed poorly because of those factors but equally Pardew has been a major factor in the teams poor performances.

    If we are looking at the teams season then yeah you’re right but if you’re looking at Pardews season then they are only small factors as to why HE has been awful. He can’t blame tiredness on his own mistakes.

    Secondly you talk as if the farmer is the only driver available. We are not Ferrari, we are more like Sauber.

    We ain’t going to be challenging the top but we should beating smaller teams. We shouldn’t be hiring a farmer because he is a cheap option and has experience on the track when there are young foreign drivers who are up and coming and will be a similar cost and much more potential to get the best out of the car.

  • 195 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Beattie…Sorry mate, but haven’t you argued that Pardew is no different this season that to last? That being the case, the major differences would be luck, EL, injuries and lack of investment.

    Back on to this wonderful farmer discussion, ah feck it, you’re right, I don’t care enough :)

  • 196 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Hmmm…comment has disappeared, maybe the use of a word beginning with f?!?

    Either way, it ended with I’m not that bothered, so yeah, congratulations Beattie :)

  • 197 Ian Toon // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Catchy @ 108- You seem to be in a reflective mood so hopefully I can make a point. You say we have been right about Pardew all along!
    This cannot be the case because you have claimed on countless occasions that you called him from day one. I think even his harshest critic would acknowledge that he has had fluctuating fortunes. Surely his high spot has been qualifying for the EL- I have heard the counter
    argument of we should have qualified for the CL. Nevertheless it is quite an achievement. Despite losing heavily at home and having Vera.l an abysmal season I don’t sense the same feeling of hopelessness amongst the fans that was a feature of the Souness, Allardyce reigns. I could be wrong but time will tell. Sorry we never got to meet up in the car park. I am an infrequent visitor so just wanted to touch base with you.

  • 198 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM


    At times I think the board want us to be the next Dortmund and at others I return to the comments by Dekker when he said the next Aston Villa.

    Very big summer coming up in terms of ambition. We are not far off having a super team if we have someone who can get the best out of them.

    I don’t think that can ever be Pardew and if someone got the formula correct with this team and a few additional players then we could realistically challenge top 6 consistently.

    I think those that want to retain Pardew for stabilities sake can accept mid table finishes and poor football as long as we are in the PL because that’s where we belong.

    I think we should fire Pardew ASAP because stability can only be built upon foundations of success in the modern day and I don’t want mid table or poor football because the PL is the very least we deserve.

    Sounds deluded to say we deserve more than the PL but I honestly think that.

  • 199 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:30 PM


    Did you swear? Ed blocks any swear words that start with a f or a c. You have to change the words around.

    Eg. Beattie fcuk off you Cnut.

    It’s horrid but effective.

  • 200 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    I love how journos, fans and players new to the anti Pardew comments are comi out and saying things like:

    ‘If you lose against Sunderland you have to expect criticism’ or ‘its comes with the territory, you lose a few games and you get stick’ or even ‘the criticism is unfair, sometimes in football you go on poor runs’.

    Where have they been all season?

    I’m not complaining about 2 or 3 matches, it’s the entire season. I think it’s been the 2nd worst season in the PL history of our club. If we get relegated it’ll be one of the worst season in our history.

  • 201 Novocastrian66 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Sage; Thanks for the info, as I said speculation. Pardew is here to stay. Only way he will not be here next season is if we get relegated. Hopefully that will not happen, relegated I mean.
    Pardew has to build a lot of bridges to win the fans back.

  • 202 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM


    Is it deluded to expect that a club like NUFC should be content with merely being in the PL? In terms on infrastructure we’re as big, if not a bigger, club than Liverpool.

    The only difference is that they have had success over the years, and even though they have not qualified for CL football in 4 years, their revenue streams are still huge in terms of sponsorship, and the expectations for them is to eventually be cracking the top 4 once more, an expectation that I am beginning to think that they will fulfil next season if they make smart signings.

    But like you said, and as Dortmund have proved, sustainable success can be built upon a model of diligent scouting and shrewd signings, but it is pointless having that model in place off the field, if you do not have a progressive forward thinking manager off the field.

    Someone posted an article highlighting Jurgen Klopp’s ideals for Dortmund when he first came to the club, and while we must laud the work they have done off the field, it is by his work and revolutionary ideas on the field that have truly transformed that football club.

    Regardless of what happens off the field, if you do not do the business on the field then you will not succeed in the true sense of the word.

    We may be surprised and see them heed what we’re saying but somehow I don’t think so.

  • 203 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    That first sentence should read:

    Is it deluded that a club like NUFC shouldn’t be content with merely being a PL club.

  • 204 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Also, “forward thinking manager ON the field”

    What is wrong with me?

  • 205 Grafton83 // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    What is going on with the adverts on this site, ruining my reading. Grrrrrr

    It’s as if Pardew starting managing the website or something???

  • 206 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM


    please go and read my comments on the game v man u away, 4-3 and the ars game 7-3,

    you will find that on those 2 games this season , i gave him credit for a job well done,

    for me, football is a 90 min game +++ , us under pardew from very early on in his tenner, have only played a couple of 90 min games,
    yes we have won more than a couple under him, but for the most part , regardless of who we play, we always look like the 2nd best team on the pitch , and im not talking about just this season

    as a team , if we go behind, we never come back to win, well , i think we have 1 time, but 1 time isnt good enough,
    we can go ahead in a game, and we have lost quite a few this way and some ov these in a big way, and this is when he bottles it and has no clue how to stop things, fulham spurs last year, arsenal this year, v arsenal, he went at them, playing great stuff, ( we have great players) but you seen him on tv say no more goals, at 3-3, meaning defend,

    his use of obertan last year was crazy, he played him and you could see he was going backwards, the crowd was getting on his back, but he sent him regardless, grat man management

    for me the only good thing was our league position, 5th, BUT, it should have been 3rd in my eyes, again the guy bottled it,
    we will never get a season again where 2 teams that were better than us, have internal problems like that one, both chelsea and liverpool were imploading

    i 100% think he will be gone in the summer, hopefully with carver and stone,

  • 207 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    read this :)

  • 208 Williamsonsuks // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    I’ve read most of your comments and have never agreed with anything you’ve said! How can you call call yourself a fan! We all know our team has been below standard all season, it’s just you repeat yourself over and over again. Pardew has made a lot of errors in judgement, from his subs, tactics, dropping the players in form and not having answers when other teams step it up a gear. I personally hope Pardew does the decent thing at the end of this season and if he does good luck to him. Yes we know you hate Pardew but GIVE IT A FKUN REST EH!!!!

  • 209 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Lee Ryder just falls short of really hitting the nail on the head with his article here, but it is still a much better read than some of the tripe he’s served up over the years.

  • 210 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM


    bla bla bla

    you slate the guy often too,,

    why do you find the need to do that?

  • 211 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:16 PM


    You give me a sore head, you really do. Even now, when I find myself having run out of patience and giving credence to a lot of what you have said in the past, you still manage to infuriate.

    I’m frustrated with Pardew, I don’t think he can bring us to the next level, I doubt his ability to get the best from this side, but I’ve nothing really against him on a personal level. I certainly don’t have a vendetta against the man, and when the time comes that he leaves our club I will wish him well and thank him for a job “OK” done.

    Somehow I don’t think you will, and I’m not sure how you’ll cope when he leaves, where will you direct your anger? Or will you be offering people a good old punch up like before?

  • 212 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Rotonda @144

    I’m well aware you’ve got the love – the difference is you sometimes post on other topics / tactics and players which are readable and informed – making it easier to discard your rants. I also agre with you on the 4-3-3 though am not as committed as a 4-4-2 can be useful on occasion. Catchy on the other hand is always negative and ranting hence ticking all the boxes for WUM status. He’s thick skinned enough to take it and dishes out random insults of his own too. Blog life eh ?

  • 213 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:18 PM


    Sadly we didn’t have a ten year+ period where we won everything in sight like the bindippers so we are only as big a club in theory. Sleeping giant for too long now

  • 214 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:21 PM


    What has lowfell mag done to get the full monty off you ?
    I’ve read his posts, can’t get where you’re coming from ?

  • 215 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Yo yo

    That’s in line with the point I was making i.e given Liverpool’s past successes they have much more in the way of income as a result.

    My point really was that if you succeed on the field, then you open the door to really succeeding off the field, but it must start with having sustainable success on the pitch.

    Now we have a model that provides stability off the field, which is to be applauded, but that should be a precursor for us to kick on and provide much more on the field. With the players we have signed, and hopefully will be signing in the summer, surely one of the more important pieces of that jig-saw is to have a manager that can get the most out of them?

    Without that key ingredient we will always fall short as the team will not be playing to its true potential.

    It does still remain to be seen whether Pardew can be that manager, I firmly believe he won’t be but I am willing to give him time to categorically prove/disprove that theory.

    If MA truly wants to make a killing off the field, then he really should be starting with success on it.

  • 216 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    no , your 100% right, id pay for the taxi

    i have never ever dissliked one of our managers like this one,

    you say job ok done, thats your opinion :)

    for me, the guy took over a happy team and has slowly ground it down,

    turned most of our good/great players poor,

    JFK took us down, and we all new he was a chancer, pardew has fooled a lot of you from day one with his “right words” sharp suits , he is just a shinny version of JFK
    he has blamed every one everything and everyone when the real problem has been his ego,

    i carnt wait for the guy to goooooooo,

    id love to know how someone who has never changed his beliefe on a subject is a WUM,, esp when lotss are now agreeeing,
    if i was one,, would i not be routing for pardew now, you know now that he has very little support,,

    right now, i feel like im twisting the knife in his back, so to say

  • 217 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Yo Yo

    It dates back a long time.

  • 218 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Beattie…I thought I could get away with an e instead of a u, but apparently not :)

    It wasn’t aimed at you anyway, just an “F&”^£ it, can’t be bothered”.

    Catchy…Did you not pick up my post earlier?

  • 219 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    yo yo

    I’ve noticed a couple of times you’ve come on here to me and Beattie saying what has so and so done to get our backs up like you’re trying to stir it up when you ‘re not exactly blameless yourself re – your comments at Catchy.

  • 220 Dulcinea // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    I think i comment on this blog once every 3 years due to complete lack of faith and respect in my fellow geordies, as all i read on this blog from some of the “regulars” is complete tripe.

    What’s with the Pardew bashers? you fickle, narrow minded eejits. Who was bashing him last year when we came 5th place? you eejits need to wise up. Yes we have had a terrible season, but how can you put all the blame on Pardew? remember it’s the footballers who have the 90 minutes of trying to win a match, im sick of managers taking all the stick for the teams shortcomings. Ok, so the football hasn’t been great at times but we are not going to turn into Barcelona over night. Do you know how long it took Barcelona to perfect their game? And don’t even get me started on the tw**s still calling for Ashleys head. He has turned our club completely around, brought in Graham Carr, sanctioned the transfers of the great players we have, got us debt free, investing greatly in the youth squad etc. Do you eejits really want to go back to the days when our club was a joke, sacking managers every 6 months?

    Wise up

  • 221 LeToonARMY // Apr 26, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    This is my team if i was the manager . Eliiot
    Debuchy Taylor Yanga Haidra
    Cabaye Sissoko Marveux
    Ben Arfa Cisse Gouffran
    but Im sure Pas de clue will play 4-2-3-1

    Debuchy Taylor Yanga Haidra
    Cabaye Tiote
    Gouffran Sissoko Jonas
    Ben Arfa

  • 222 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:00 PM


    Thanks for stopping by. See you in 3 years.

  • 223 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    @ dulcinea

    Its hard to keep the faith when Pardew keeps draining it out of me every week.

  • 224 toonluvva // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    I’m worried that if Pardew stays his negative tactics will drive out talented players such as Cabaye and HBA over the summer.

    In the longer term Sissoko and Marveux will also want away. Ashley might be happy in the short term if he makes a decent profit on the players, but what happens when we can only attract negatively minded players?

    I can’t envisage me sitting at SJP in January thinking I’m pleased they gave Pardew more time if we are closer to the relegation dog fight that the top 8.

    Sorry, but he has had his time. After the Arsenal match Ashley and Llambias should be thanking him for his time and passing him a P45 and a golden handshake. Actually as soon as Pardew is off the premises I’d like to see Llambias following him down the road too.

  • 225 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:09 PM


    I’ll answer your questions before you go.

    What’s with the Pardew bashers? We simply think our manager isn’t good enough for the club in order to give us long term success.

    Who was bashing him last year when we came 5th place? Most of us actually and many more were sceptical. Supportive yet wary.

    but how can you put all the blame on Pardew? We haven’t, just the amount he deserves and more than those that support him would dare to do.

    Do you know how long it took Barcelona to perfect their game? It took them a while to lay the foundations but it wasn’t long after that they found a manager to take them to the next level. We have the foundations for better than we have. We don’t want Barca football, just better than we’ve had for 2 1/2 years.

    Do you eejits really want to go back to the days when our club was a joke, sacking managers every 6 months? That is a bit dramatic. We gave most managers a season and a half to stamp their ethos on the team and when it wasn’t working out we sacked them. Sam Allerdyce had 6 months but we got a new owner. I’m glad we sacked Sam but Pardew is the same as him and has had 2 years more at the helm.

    Thanks again for stopping bye and saying hello.

  • 226 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:16 PM


    Well said, couldn’t of said it better – looks like the anti Ashley and Pardew ranters have taken over.
    Followed the toon home and away over the past fifty years and trust me I have had to put up with some crap managers players and directors.
    For the first time in ages we have a bit of stability and a plan.
    Not a fat fraud like Freddie Fletcher and the Halls milking the club
    dry resulting in the situation where we could not get any credit from lenders.

  • 227 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Here’s something someone posted in twitter. Quite a good read:

  • 228 Jonny // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    STAT: we average 70 long balls per game, more than any other team in the Premier League.

    Pardrew tells these players how to play, this means we bypass our best player cabaye on nearly every occasion!

  • 229 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:20 PM


    Nice to know you’re interested. I’ll give you a fr’ instance.
    I used to be on opposite sides of the spectrum to Bill-son and have had strong disagreements with him as I felt he was being far too uncritically pro Ashley. However, I’m happy to say he’s more reasoned that the sun doesn’t rise in a certain place and he has actually argued his case pretty well – if OTT at times – and has won me round so that I tend to agree with him more often or at least know where he’s coming from.

    Same with you – I ignore the negative rants and just read the posts where you discuss formations.
    Even find myself agreing with K9 who has been proved right this season sometimes.

    None of this applies to Catchy who is exclusively a one trick pony, exceptionally irritating with the hate fest stuff. The alternative view has to be expressed as it is equally relevant. I’d say he is a true WUM.

    For myself am more than happy to oblige with a bit of stirring if the occasion demands it :) which is usually totally unnecessary and rare as I usually find guys going at it gloves off when I log on and without any input from me at all…

    As Beattie tends to go off on one for unforeseen reasons it was a simples question.

    I’ll have a go at him too if I disagree with his posts – but this is not one of those occasions.

  • 230 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    @ charlie

    Stability ? . More like 2 potential relegations in 4 years. Not that I think we will go down but with the players we have we should be nowhere near the bottom 3 . I. Like the squad Ashley has put together and the last time I bashed him was in the Summer when he failed to bring in recruits. My issue is with Pardew has always been the way we play but now we are starting to lose a lot more games.

  • 231 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:24 PM


    That is only one pass over 25 m every 1 minute 17 seconds…

  • 232 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    How about instead of seeing things as “Pro Pardew vs Anti Pardew” how about we look at it in the sense of being “Pro Newcastle United”

    When I thought Pardew was beneficial for the future of our club, whenever I thought he was the right man for the job, then I backed him 100% to the hilt because I felt it was for the overall benefit for the club, which is at the heart of my thinking, personally.

    Now when I have began to doubt his ability, and whether he is indeed good for the progress of our football club in terms of performance, results and overall progress I have formed a somewhat negative opinion of his tenure as I feel that with him in charge we could lose an opportunity to get the best from an incredibly talented bunch of players, which would ultimately be detrimental to Newcastle United, something I do not want to see.

    From my own perspective, I am willing to take into account the mitigating circumstances that have been present this season in order to see whether or not he truly is good for the future of our club, and yes he did get us 5th but if we are going to analyse the factors that have led to our disastrous season, look at the factors contributing to our excellent season and there as many who would say that the football served up last season was of a poor standard, yet it was founded upon a solid defence, and goal scorers in red hot form rather than tactical nous.

    Regardless of your point of view, we all want what’s best for the future of Newcastle United, we may differ on what form that may take but as long as we take into account and respect each other’s views then let’s bring on the debate I say.

  • 233 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM


    As an older fan I can’t understand your point!

    Pardew is statistically one of the worst managers in the history of the club based on win % for those that have managed over 100+ games. (he’s actually second worst behind a man whose team you’ll remember, Bill McGarry).

    Now I know you’ve seem some crap times and awful football but surely it was easier to watch because the standard of football over the 50 years hasn’t been a good as it is now.

    50-20 years ago most teams played hoof ball but the invention of the PL made it a modern game and more beautiful to watch. Yes there was nice football before but never on this level.

    To be able to sit there and stomach the tripe served to us on a weekly basis means you’re a better man than me, because I hate watching teams like Reading outplay us home and away.

    You can have your stability but all your getting in return is mediocrity.

    You can lambast those that have milked the club dry, and whilst I will never condone that, the truth is that under them we were very nearly champions, FA cup winners and we played some brilliant football under 2 great managers.

    We didn’t have stability but we very nearly had major success and I’d rather return to those days then watch our manager milk this club in the name of stability.

  • 234 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Beattie25 – Did you see that Birmingham is trying to off load Redmond at 2 m £?

  • 235 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:30 PM


    No?! That’s an absolute steal!

  • 236 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM

  • 237 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Did anyone read that article I posted from twitter?!

    Eerie isn’t it?!

  • 238 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:34 PM


    If we’re not involved it’d be madness.

    Only potential player at the moment but could be a great signing and for £2 mill?


  • 239 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:34 PM


    Without using selective stats to prove Pardew is the worst ever etc., the issue is he is a mediocre manager and we all know that including people who tend to support him or people like me who’l give him the benfit of the doubt for a while longer.
    Can he take us beyond top 8 on a regular basis – probably not. He isn’t in SBRs class. Can he win us a trophy – he’s come close so quite possibly but not if he treats Cups as also ran competitions.
    Can his learning curve (and lets hope he is actually learning something from this dismal season) improve him as a manager ?
    Let’s hope so as he isn’t going to go anywhere soon – unless we have a really poor start next season in which case I can see the writing on the wall for him. And we (nearly) all want the Toon to be a solid top 6 side. IMO we ought to have a medium term development goal of CL level or 5th every year and try to do that within two seasons and then stay there.

  • 240 Williamsonsuks // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Catchy.. STFU!! I’ve stick by him thinking he deserved another season until of late. You’ve done it from the start. You toss pot!!

  • 241 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Yo yo

    “Without using selective stats to prove Pardew is the worst ever etc.”

    Nice little kidney punch there.

  • 242 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Yeah it would be madness.

  • 243 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Feeling the love within the family tonight.

  • 244 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM


    Lets start a new discussion to get the positivity back.

    What is your favourite ever moment as a nufc fan?

  • 245 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Especially, with implied overinflated future price because of his nationality.

  • 246 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Yeah they were good times but when we had the chance to cement our place at the top the FUC**D up big style by there short sighted greed.
    As for long balls we average 70 per game and the greta footballing team everyone rants about – Swansea play 63 long balls per game and Arsenal who play 53 according to the stats.

    I am most likely one of the few that would keep Pardew for another season (if we stay up)

    I think he needs help in the coaching side as I do not see Carver and Stone giving much

  • 247 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Beattie…Besides this one? It may have to be when we beat Man U 5-0…”and Philippe Albeeeeeerrrrrttttt”

    There may actually be better ones, but that one always comes to mind first.

    How about you (and no looking in to the future to when Pardew eventually does leave)?

  • 248 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:45 PM


    redmond is worth a gamble…at that price anyway…even if it goes wrong we will get a good chunk of that back selling to a lesser team.

    and my favourite moment…too many to name one but i did love Titus Bramble smashing in that volley to get us a UEFA cup spot in the last game of the season against chelsea….when Roeder was in charge i think.

  • 249 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:47 PM


    it’s all down to percentages and there is no definite way to measure them.

    there is a chance if pardew stays and gets a coach to help he might release the shackles and play good football, whatever your view on him there is some chance no matter how small he will do it.

    It’s just whether the odds of a different manager doing it quicker/better are higher or lower.

  • 250 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Sorry Beattie,

    Didn’t read your post till after I’d sent mine. It was a general comment.

    By the way BIll McGarry was pretty successful with the Wolves who he managed for a long time getting them in Europe a few times in the early 70s I think (without checking) .

  • 251 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    My favourite moment has to be Craig Bellamy against Feyenord.

    I wasn’t on the game but I remember the moment so clearly and when the whistle went I cried. Like full on one direction fan girl meeting Harry styles crying.

    2-0 up, they leveled to make it 2-2, we were out, a great campaign over, then Bellamy smokes it in in the 91st minute and everyone goes mad and we’d made it through to the next stage of the god damn champions league.

  • 252 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Jonny – you are right we do play the most long balls in the league with 70 pg but the team who play the least; man city still play 51 per game. I wouldn’t say 19 more long balls a game on average is why we have under performed

    Interestingly Champions Manchester United Play on average 59 pg eleven fewer than us. Has it done them much harm clearly not.

    Everyone’s favorite example of fluid football this season; Swansea average the same as stoke (ambassadors for the LB) with 63pg. So does this stat really tell us anything, not really.

    Now if you look at how many short passes made on average this season and ratio it to the long balls made that’s when you see interesting things.

    We make 321 short passes per game and 70 long balls per game meaning 17.9% of total passes are long balls.

    Stoke make 276 short passes a game and 63 long balls per game meaning 18.6% of total passes are long balls.

    If we look at swansea for example they make 480 short passes a game and 63 long balls (same as Stoke) meaning that only 11.8% of their passes are long balls.Even though on the long ball table they are joint fifth with stoke.

    Even doing this though it still reflects on Newcastle poorly. Im not saying we don’t play too many long balls im actually suggesting we don’t play enough short passes. I would love to know a 45 minute breakdown of it as i would imagine the longballs we play are normally when we switch to ‘deep’ mode second half.

  • 253 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    The way I see it is that Ashley wants to build success slowly, not spending more than we bring in and trying to build. Yes we have set backs but in general he seems to have learned from most of them.

    With us buying continental players, get much more ability for your money, we need a manager who can get the very best from them. I don’t think Pardew is that man. I’d love him to prove me wrong, and sometimes he gets them playing very well, but most of the time we just sit back and concede territory and then it puts too much on the defence.

    I didn’t mind the football when we had carroll, nolan, barton, etc, i enjoyed it, thought it was interesting to watch, at least houghton let them attack even if it was direct.

    With Pardew I am not on the edge of my seat but slumped in it daring not to look a lot of them time.

  • 254 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Beattie…That’s a good one.

    Transfer…I stopped reading after “Titus Bramble smashing..” Was it football related? :)

  • 255 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM


    I don’t hold that against pardew, long balls aren’t the issue for me. When used right they can be effective. Remeber it’s counted long if 25 yards or more, not that far.

    Doesn’t have be into a strikers head but can be out into channels for players to run onto, played over the defense, cross field pass, etc

    Our problem is we play too many straight ones to cisse and as the team sits so deep even if he wins them he has nobody near so we lose the 2nd ball.

    My problem is we just sit too deep, don’t close down high up and also try to defend single goal leads which backfires.

    Dortmund played a good few long to lewendowski but he is good at controlling them and had a lot of support around him too, it’s all how you play them, not amount.

  • 256 yo-yo // Apr 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM


    super / smashing / great post – nice to see someone who really undertsands stats.

  • 257 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Decent article on PEA:

  • 258 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Aubameyang has been known to run 100 meters in 11 seconds flat in tests at the club’s L’Etrat training ground.

  • 259 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM


    do you remember it?

    here’s the link

  • 260 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Yo yo

    Spot on, couldn’t disagree with that assessment one bit.


    Oohhhh the last minute winner against Feyenoord, the greatest ever memory as a relatively young NUFC fan, god it was an amazing moment. I desperately want to see those sort of nights back at SJP and those great Euro trips again.

  • 261 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Transfer…I didn’t, thanks for the link. Nicely taken goal by Bramble.

    CJ…Do you want the position of the blogs master stats analyzer ?

  • 262 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM


    I remember Inter Milan away also afew games later when no one gave us a chance. We outplayed them at the San siro and should’ve won. Bramble marked Vieri out of the game. Oh the excitement back then.

    People who say last year was exciting, whist correct in their assessment, mustn’t remember the joys of a decade ago.

  • 263 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM


    I know it’s not our greatest moment but its the one that always comes to mind first haha.

  • 264 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Transfer…That’s what counts mate :)

    Right, time to get showered and ready for my night out…in the rain. Have a good one lads.

    3 points tomorrow please!

  • 265 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Wonder if Torq is around today.

    Just seen a lot of stories going around with PEA to Dortmund.

  • 266 Beattie25 // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    I’m off to reminisce on YouTube. I’ve got a box of Kleenex for both ends.

    Tears at nearly winning things and the great joy of overcoming the odds.

    What a team we are. Even in the midst of the blog battles and poor football we are still a wonderful club. Wouldn’t change it. Always high drama.

    First up on memory lane. Newcastle vs. Tottenham FA cup semi final. Shearaaaaaaaarrrrrrr

  • 267 IITianToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Hi people, whats the topic of discussion today?
    I am yet unsure as to whetehr to jump on the Pardew Out team; but one thing that really pissed me off was his “Sunderland can only dream to be in Europe” comment.. how petty was that!

  • 268 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    also just read this

    Says weinman is keen on a move to us and we are still not giving up on PEA.

  • 269 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM


    Wouldn’t change this club for the world, through thick or thin NUFC is just an absolutely marvellous club.

    I do shed many many tears watching old videos. The 4-4 draw with Arsenal makes me cry like a baby! Haha

  • 270 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM


    just read it ,

    wow, pardews style is the same as back then in 2005 , no style at all, no game plan

    funny how we seen this early, yet there are ppl on here still backing him, flogging a dead horse :( , i believe ppl like yawn yawn have the same blind mentality as pardew,

    they see us as negative , but i carnt see how anyone can put a possitive spin on what we watch,

    they think we have turnes a corner every time we win a match, no matter how poor the game was,

    yes ressults matter, but with the great squad we have we should be getting great results and great performances,

    not one of us can say we have lost a game and the team can walk off head held high knowing everyone gave there all to tey and win, players or manager,

  • 271 IITianToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    The fans at Dortmund basically go to enjoy themselves. I have been to Signal Iduna Park and the fans are really chilled out. So when the players step out, the mood transmits to them, that is, they too play in a relaxed manner.
    On the other hand to me it feels ST James’ is a passionate but very fickle crowd. One goal against completely silences us and it takes us a while to get going. Dortmund fans never stop singing, they have a blast even if their team is trailing. Takes the pressure off the players!

  • 272 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    my best goal i seen live,

    ginola ferencfarcus, ( yeh i know spelled wrong) i was right behind the goal,


  • 273 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM


    Read yo yo’s assessment @238 and stop being such a pig ignorant tw@t for goodness sake.

  • 274 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Transfer sage – i agree totally i was just trying to illustrate how the long ball stat was actually quite deceptive.

    I also think that we play way too many direct balls to cisse, he is no form of target man although to his credit he brings a substantial amount of them down and retains possession. Well, as well as you can with at times very little support.

    I think the West Brom game epitomizes what you say really. First half we pushed up, pressed high (as a unit) and used the offside trap (very effectively). We had a constant attacking threat and support for Cisse. Another one of our 45 minute showings that have become all too frequent.

    Second half completely contrasting. we sat deep, hence not really utilizing the offside trap and stopped closing down as a unit and started doing it sporadically. Then we started playing more direct and subsequently failed to take 3 points.

  • 275 scout // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Just accept we didn’t show up against Sunderland some players probably were tired. P

  • 276 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:22 PM


    I can see how it’s difficult in that situation at west brom, they brought long on and really took the game to us, so naturally you fall a bit deeper, it can’t be helped.

    The problem was that we fell deep as soon as the 2nd half whistle went and never once tried to get out when we had the chance.

  • 277 davis_toons // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Some positive on Pardew, he is committed in managing Newcastle Utd and can work with the Owner, willing to accept what he have. (but surely didn’t made the most out of it, that might need more experience and guts to try new things)

    Is it really very hard to find a manager to work with Mike?
    ..but Soton can find one that is working fine under small budget.

  • 278 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Great job. Can you figure out how we create same amount of chances as Dortmund, but conceded more and scored less. About half both ways. What does that say? Wonga curse?

  • 279 IITianToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    And still, and still Pardew will find a slot in there for Jonas. Has Jonas NOT started even ONE game when he has been fit.
    One thing that has been playing in my head ever since the 2-1 defeat at Wigan has been Santon’s goal. In my opinion Santon has to be promoted to the wings RW or LW.!!

  • 280 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    or that they count every freekick hoof as a chance?

  • 281 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    CJ Toon if you like individual stats then there is or maybe you have something better.

  • 282 IITianToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Top things which pisses me off every game:
    1. Jonas starting
    2. Shola a dead certain sub after 70 mins. Shola fouling every goddamn defender every single frikkin time.
    3. Set piece offered like a lollipop catch to the opposing keeper

  • 283 Novocastrian66 // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    @270. Before the sanitation of English football, going to the match in England used to be exactly like you describe. If the match was poor the “singing section” would entertain themselves by creating a noise / atmosphere. Frequently this would change the game and liven up what was happening on the pitch.
    Unfortunately one cannot stand up to scratch one’s arse without someone complaining, never mind attempting to create some kind of atmosphere. I hate where I sit in the ground.
    The Taylor report improved many things for footballer supporters, interacting and influencing with the game wasn’t one of them.

  • 284 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Andy Carroll has the best Aerial duels won in Europe. Followed by Benteke.

  • 285 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM


  • 286 scout // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    I’m supporting Pardew, as are the lads on the pitch. Going on and on about the Sunderland game, we were turned over, that’s it. Pardew got us 5th last season and some people on here said he was lucky, how can you be lucky for a full season, they do make me laugh. Sissoko 1.8 million and some people on here think he’s yaya toure, he’s a decent player but not that level, same with Santon, people say turn him into Bale, he’s not a magician.

  • 287 cjtoon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Sazzer yeah i have been using whoscored and also football365 stats. They are all decent for what im doing.

    278 – totally agree santon could really mature into a effective wide man on either side. Probably more so on the left as even though hes quite often a one trick pony opposition players seem to always let him cut in onto his right foot.

  • 288 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:35 PM


    Safe standing has to be brought in, get it in the gallowgate end and boost the capacity by 10,000 or so…be amazing.


    I remember one game where we lost, can’t remember who, Pardew said we had loads of chances…24 shots on goal but during the game i never thought we had a genuine chance to score from any of them, all pot shots from distance or tight angles.

  • 289 IITianToon // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    I remember even Stevie T scored 3 from 3 at the end of last to last season, wasnt AP still the manager then? Why cant he just make his team replicate those moves :S

  • 290 catchy in norway // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM


    i have read it,

    what i dont like is when he is always putting me down,

    its like yeh you where right , bur your still wrong because its you,

    like i said to ibiza earlier, i never started the slagging, and i dont mind guys like yourself calling me, the ones who enguage in some level of chat, but. all he ever does is have digs at me

  • 291 bills-son // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Beattie, its a hard one but I think my best moment as a toon fan was Rob Lee scoring against Chelsea in the FA Cup semi-final. We were totally on top and I expected us to go on and win that game and then the final.

    It was also the first goal I had seen us score in four matches at Wembley.

    The crushing misery when Poyet scored the winner against the run of play was also one of my biggest ever disappointments.

  • 292 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Bit worried Fiorentina might take PEA if they sell Jovetic. They have been in meeting with them. They might have replaced him with Rossi already.

  • 293 Fenhammag // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    IITianToon @ 281
    4. Every corner ending up as a goal kick

  • 294 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:40 PM


    Not taking anything away from last year, it was great to get 5th, huge achievement.

    We had a lot of new players combined with some very limited ones so getting there was great.

    The issue is even if he replicates that it still won’t be enough as he doesn’t play attacking football and good pass/move stuff which is what all of our players now suit.

    In the same way i’d swap Willo for Kompany I’d swap pardew for a better manager.

    Something is seriously wrong with him, huge favouritism with some useless players, rarely makes a positive change from the bench, players are always tired, there is always an excuse why we did bad and to top it all off he blamed us for the sunderland defeat saying we expected too much.

    The sooner he is gone the better, i defended him til mid february and when i saw he played the same defensive stuff even with a team of internationals i got sick and want him out.

  • 295 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:42 PM


    I’m not worried on PEA. Good player but europe is full of good players, maybe a year or two behind PEA in development but would be cheaper and mean we could get more.

    Would love us to follow he Dortmund model.

    If by some chance i ever have Abramoich money i will buy the club and make it for the fans, 10 quid tickets for a start.

  • 296 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM


    Well if he’s constantly slating you that’s wrong, but from my perspective I think you’re own personal hatred of Pardew shines through more than the actual points you are making.

    You were making claims last season that simply wasn’t true, while this season some people are finding themselves agreeing with your point of view but don’t agree with the way you make your points.

    Lay off the hatred, stick to the logic and reason and you’d make a lot of good points.

  • 297 Novocastrian66 // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    I’m all for safe standing. I do not advocate the return to the old terraces, but the new safe standing is the way to increase capacities and offer cheaper match day tickets.
    The government, FA and everone else need to get the heads out their arses and sort this out.

  • 298 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Pardew doesn`t deserve any more time he has had 2 1/2 seasons and we are going backwards.The only stat i see is that Pardew is a negative average manger/coach who doesn`t believe enough in his players to win matches

  • 299 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Ryad Boudebouz vs PSG – With mixture of flair from Arfa and Zidane.

  • 300 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:48 PM


    The Hillsborough campaign group condemned it but we can’ let emotion get in the way of progress.

    The new report confirmed it was a policing and ticketing issue which caused that tragedy. There have been several studies in germany which show standing has no more incidents of bad behavior in the crowd than sitting and it gives fans he choice if we just have a huge standing section.

    I think it needs to be looked at but knowing the FA they will take an age to decide until the prem league gets onto them about how much extra money they can make.

    The stand at dortmund where they all stand is superb, think we can learn a lot from germany.

    They also let away tickets count as a train ticket to the game, surely that could be put in place, force clubs to subsidise it as well as have a larger amount f cheap (£10 max) seating.

  • 301 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Im ready for the blah blah blah tomorrow after the match

  • 302 Sazzer // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Look at 5.20 pretty unique pass.

  • 303 perchy4england // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Have to disagree with some comments on here, people seem blind with anger at pardew they can’t give him any credit whatsoever!

    Yes I know pards has used the tired excuse too often his season but you have to admit it’s a valid one, all too often we’ve had to play the same team with little/no option from the bench.

    People have mentioned this before on the blog – can you imagine man U winning the league if they had 9 of their players out injured from the first team?

    I do believe pards tactics and subs are lacking, but I sympathise for his lack of options this season. If last season was ‘lucky’ than this one has definitely been unlucky.

  • 304 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:53 PM


    Have to say I totally disagree. 6 of the 11 who played against Sunderland played no part in the Benfica game, yet the old “tired” excuse was rolled out.

    And that’s just one example, he’s used this excuse despite the fact we’ve played fringe players for most of our EL campaign.

    At some point he can’t expect to keep feeding us the same tired old excuses, pardon the pun, and expect us to lap it up every time.

  • 305 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:53 PM


    not expecting us to win league or e 5th again

    but top 10 easily

    lost 14 points at home to west ham, swansea, villa, sunderland and reading…an extra 8/9 see’s us 8th…should have gotten them as strong teams in most of those games

  • 306 scout // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Evening sage, remember the chelsea game we played some electric stuff, the tempo was great. We need to replicate that, I personally believe it’s because the players are nervous about losing games and it’s a fair point. As for Jonas being the favourite he’s quality and puts in a shift I agree his creativity isn’t the best but I’m telling you he chases when others don’t.

  • 307 cyprus // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Reminiscing on favourite moments?
    v. Everton 2-1, on the radio (later saw it recorded), losing till last couple minutes. Shearer equalizes with a great goal…

    “Now, do they smell victory? Do they see fear in their eyes? Bellamy!!!”

    Simple but Good stuff.

    4-4 radio recording is pretty good too.

  • 308 Rotonda heights // Apr 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM


    anita can’t get a game nor can obertan

  • 309 perchy4england // Apr 26, 2013 at 7:00 PM


    True there were changes for the Sunderland game but remember wasn’t it debuchy tiote making comebacks from injury plus haidara and others who played 45 mins midweek against benfica.

    I definitely agree with you with the tired excuse, he has a point but it’s now every game.


    Again there were players in there who played midweek and again on the weekend. We should be top 10 without doubt.

  • 310 Transfer Sage // Apr 26, 2013 at 7:03 PM


    when jonas is in the middle it’s not too bad, thats ok to chase, when as a wide man you need quality he hasn’t got it. Think we have better players in all positions he plays though.

    And we can play wel under pardew, been a few games where we have looked great, just too often he prefers the negative and it’s not good enough. He seems scared to lose, this and last year. He needs to let go of his worry and let them play. We know they can do it and we always look much better.

    Wish he could see it, he doesn’t seem able to so rather have a better man in charge.

    If he stays i’ll cheer him and the boys during the game, but i won’t be happy haha…unless her starts getting us playing good and attacking on a regular basis.

  • 311 perchy4england // Apr 26, 2013 at 7:03 PM


    To be fair obertan has been awful all season and Anita did well when we had most of our reserves out. Since then hasn’t really impressed. Possibly a case of looking good in a poor team?

  • 312 scout // Apr 26, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Just think the lad deserves a chance, few strikers in and a fit Ben arfa we are capable of anything. Gouffran looks a player, please lads and lasses get behind the lads tomorrow and we will get the 3 points we need.

  • 313 mickg108 // Apr 26, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    It’s Pards fault the Grandbairn,woudn’t go to Sleep,,that droning Whine kept her awake 😉

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