Time For Pardew To Give Up Defending Sunderland Loss

Alan Pardew keeps defending the performance against Sunderland – simply because he keeps getting asked about it by the reporters – -but he should just give up this nonsense about his players being tired – it just doesn;t wash, and makes Newcastle fans angry.

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Alan Pardew – during the Sunderland loss

And Alan is refusing to say it’s been a bad season – so what planet is Alan living on these days?

We did well in Europe – no doubt about that – but this is probably going to turn out to be the second worst season on points in the Premier League ever for our club – since we got 34 points four years ago and took the drop.

The next lowest points total is 43 points, which we achieved twice in successive seasons in 2006-2007 and then 2007-2008.

This is what Alan said in the local press today:

“It’s strange, but after the Benfica game it was all very positive. “In retrospect, maybe the fact that our performance was so strong and that the crowd had such a great reaction against Benfica, played a part in the Sunderland game.”

“Perhaps even our fans thought we were going to win that the derby comfortably (we thought that), but it doesn’t work like that. ” (why not?)

“I don’t think we’re under any illusions about what we need to do, but we’re playing against a really good side and we’re going to have to be a full tilt to beat them.”

“I know our fans are intelligent enough to know that we’re not just going to turn up and steam-roller Liverpool. That’s not going to happen. “This is going to be a really tight game, but hopefully a game where we can get three valuable points.”

It’s hard for Newcastle fans to understand – after we played so well against Benfica, and nearly got through to the quarter finals of the Europa League – why we couldn’t beat a side who had three draws and six defeats in their previous nine games and had difficulty scoring goals.

And they beat us 3-0 at home. 🙁

And I could go on and say they had only scored 7 goals in their previous 9 games – but I wont because I’m getting depressed. 😀

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313 comments so far

  • yo-yo

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #1

    Catchy – previous thread

    If you’re ” waiting for the right club’ it sure as hell isn’t the Toon given you’r endless whinging – please go elsewhere

  • toon22

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #2

    You think AP has finally seen that we dont want to talk about some football match with the unwashed anymore.
    Imo he needs to act instead of talk,lets see a performance against Liverpool,for the full 90 mins
    Lets see the reaction he keeps bleeting on about,lets see it or its more cheap words.

  • Rainrix

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #3

    So its our fault now pardew for thinking we might have a chance of winning the derby? Wow. Still no fault of your own was it? Of course not silly me.

  • Mag.no

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #4

    After reading what Catchy, Beattie25, Rotonda and the guys from “that clan” writes, i actually think those are the most realistic guys on here.
    Then you can debate if a fan should be more of an optimistic kind of person. In the stadium YES, of course! But this is a blog and i kind of like the realistic views on tactics, the manager and the players.

    My main problem besides extremely boring football under Pardew is his lack of motivating skills. How many times have we seen our players not turn up at all, or just last 45mins?

    I would love a new manager, but i think Ashley will give Pardew one last chance and prove that the 8 year contract wasn’t another big mistake made by him self.

  • catchy in norway

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #5


    west ham stats,

    hmmm this is where i feel pardew plays football, with stats, as long as he can say he had possesion, shot from 40 yards, passed the ball to death in his own half, he feels like he is doing good,
    around this time, he was saying we were a passing team, when the stats said we were a long ball team, the most long ball in the league,

    west brom

    we are talking about a 45 min spell, where he new his job is on the line, he needed a reaction, and over 90 mins, he didnt get one,

    benifca,, for me its not hard,, its a cup game, score more, if you do you go through, leaving it to the last 20 mins to go for it, when you know you have to score 2 was madness,

    benfica, sat back, they were winning the tie, we went at them, and they came back at us when they needed to,

    pooor pooor game plan

  • yo-yo

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #6

    “I know our fans are intelligent enough to know that we’re not just going to turn up and steam-roller Liverpool. That’s not going to happen. “This is going to be a really tight game, but hopefully a game where we can get three valuable points.”

    Overcautious again – he’s definitely lost his bottle. There is a subtle difference between being realistic and being optimistic and Pards has missed it completely. If we are really up for it we should beat them – end of.
    This looks like a 1-0 team talk. Even I’m losing patience with this guy !

  • catchy in norway

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #7


    more like yawn-yawn

  • perchy4england

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #8

    Bit harsh on blaming pardew for talking about the derby, it’s the journo’s who would be asking him the questions about it. Definitely need something out of the game tomorrow or it’ll be squeaky bum time!

  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #9

    yo-yo…Depends on what’s being said to the players, as it doesn’t have to be the same as what he says to fans to try and control expectations.

    Truth is, before Sunderland a fair few, myself included, thought we’d batter the mackems. Once again, with Suarez out, expectations and importance of this game has risen, I just see it as trying to keep some sort of control.

    However, he may well be saying the same to the players…

    Rainrix….In the full interview he actually expands it to “in particular, it’s R Dawwwwgggs fault”.

    Catchy…Then we shall leave it that we have differing opinions, who would have thought that would be the conclusion?!? 🙂

  • catchy in norway

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #10


    regardless of what he is asked, he has the right to answer with what ever words he likes,

    he choses to blame everyone/everything else,

    he could just say it was a bad day at the office,, we all have them

  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #11

    Catchy…For sh*ts and giggles, what would you be saying on here If Pardew had said “it was just a bad day at the office”.

    I can imagine something along the lines of “I think you mean bad year in the office – Pardew out!”


    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #12

    Feel sorry for John carver.
    He’s went from working with a football god, to working with a clueless cockney

  • Santon03

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #13

    Guys… don’t just pray we will win any game this season, but pray the other teams below us not winning, it’s more important. Because I have lost all hope on us winning anymore games, I know it’s sad… but it’s the reality. This way we can avoid being disapointed or frustrated.

  • Rainrix

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #14

    Ibiza…. Yup sounds about right. Stupid me for thinking we could beat a team that had barely scored 3 goals all season. What was i thinking! All my fault sorry guys stop attacking pardew its all my fault for dreaming we could achieve something!

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #15

    Yo Yo

    It’s a forum. Catchy’s got every right to voice his opinions
    and not be abused by people who have an alternative viewpoint.

    Are your contributions worth more because you don’t happen to agree?

  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #16

    I think everyone should forget the sunderland game, it was a loss, simple, we had a good goal chalked off, and all 3 of there goals was from outside the box, they were lucky to go in, i’m not defending the performance, but get on with it

  • John Tudor

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #17

    just clear your desk

  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #18

    Rainrix…Good man, shows a lot of character.

    Rotonda…Very true. Pretty sure Catchy has thrown abuse at others during his time on here though.

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #19


    It would be amusing if we could compile all the excuses and possible non – truths Pardew has produced this season.

    Wouldn’t it be great if we had a manager who didn’t divide opinion so much and who we all really believed in.

    Pardew’s already bigging up Liverpool who will be without their main man.

    Ian Toon

    Re – Rodgers and Pardew’s comments. Shocking by Rodgers but 2 wrongs don’t make a right or excuse Pardew’s nonsense either.

  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #20

    It is a Christian holiday here in DK – at an conformation!

    …so what’s happenong in the Toon world today?


    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #21


    Pardew saying that he can take the flack from the fans.

    No you can’t pardew because instead of putting your hands up you blame everything on anything u possibly can

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #22

    Brown alien

    Are you conveniently forgetting their 2 blatant hand ball and pull back penalty claims against Saylor and the time Graham was through on goal and Saylor claimed he had been pushed but had just fallen over. All not given.

    Yes we had a good goal disallowed but they were more hard done by Webb than us.

  • BigKirky

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #23

    I hate all this type of talk like he’s preparing himself for a softer landing post-match in case a result doesn’t come off for us.

    Alan, get at them and be positive for 90 mins for a change! You have the players to do so, regardless of injuries.

    All this talk he drivels on to the press must filter down to the players. He’s laying the foundations for the players to accept that if we don’t get results it’s OK, because of X, Y and Z excuses. That is not how to relay expectation and demand top performance from his players.

    Cut out the excuses and instill belief and a winning attitude among the players!

    The problem is that his CV doesn’t show that type of positivity being a regularly part of his career to a high enough standard.

    Even though we had points last season through individual moments of brilliance from the quality of some of our players, the general performances were still disjointed and negative. These poor and negative performances have continued this year and again more individual brilliance have literally nicked us points.

  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #24

    Rotonda…That would be great. Don’t see it happening though, even Bobby Robson had his harsh critics at the toon, not comparing the two, just pointing out that’s fantasy and not going to happen.

  • blew

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #25

    Is this guy worse than Souness, Big Sam and King Kenny?
    He is more unpopular for sure

  • Beattie25

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #26

    I was going to add something but to be honest I’m kinda enjoying reading today.

    Everything I would say has already been said.

    Keep up the good work.


  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #27

    Morning Beattie….I have one thing to add to make your comment correct.


    You’re welcome.

  • bzak12

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #28

    Lambsass to Percy
    Alan the natives are getting restless whats the plan for tomorrow.
    Percy- Dont worry Dekker I’ve another cunning plan.We’ve got no hope trying to play football against THEM I’ll say Cisse is injured and bring in Shola then they’ll realise 4-5-1 is the only way we can go. If we’re in trouble I’ll bring on Campbell for the last 10 mins that’ll keep them quiet. Then there is only one home game left by which time other teams will have saved us.
    Brilliant says Dekka Got a wish list for next season?
    Percy You know me Dekka always prepared, for the new coach I was thinking Rory Delap I heard he’s been released by Stoke(no wonder they’re struggling now) and maybe a few big lads Carroll,Crouchy and possibly Huth.
    Dekka- Magic Alan now I see why Mikey gave you a 8 year deal.
    Aagh!! Enough of this I’m depressing myself I’m off to slit my wrists!

  • BigKirky

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #29

    Even with me frustrated with Pardew’s continued basic tactical ineptitude, I will still be encouraging the players and singing at every opportunity for the full game tomorrow as usual, regardless of the score, because they need all the help they can get when the players play.

    So never relate fans’ dismay at Pardew’s abysmal outlook on football philosophy, with lack of support for the team on the pitch, or the club, ever. It is just a huge concern which needs voicing on non-match days.

    It’s really frustrating because we have the potential there to be a lot better, performance-wise and results-wise, the team is just being under-utilised, and in the wrong manner.

  • magpie6699

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #30

    blew – why more unpopular than Shoemess and BFS? Their records were not good – seem to remember we finished near the bottom with Souness and certainly never got near top 5 or Europe.

  • GeordieDan

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #31

    Heard Pardew saying earlier re Liverpool game:
    “But if we lose, then we lose that little bit of momentum we gained at West Brom and suddenly you’re fighting again to try to get those three points. It’s a different pressure.”

    If ANY manager allows a team with as much quality as ours to go down then they deserve NEVER to manage again. Unlike a couple of years ago when we were last relegated with over paid pensioners this team is young, hungry and arguably more talented then any team we’ve had since Sir Bobby’s days.

    Don’t recall Roeder’s team being spectacular but we managed Europe and the league fine when he was here so what’s different?

    -A crap manager who allow his team to believe its tired and tells them (and everyone else) that every week!

    If someone told me you’re tired, you’re tired every 5 minutes I’d probably feel a bit crap as well and its certainly a convenient excuse to hide behind if you have an off day.

    I’ve made my mind up now that Pardew is WAY out of his depth and really does need to go.

    Looking at it realistically though I think we will survive JUST and he should be shipped until the Summer as it might caused an adverse effect that could see us go down-too much of a gamble.

    BUT…despite all of this I’m 100% sure he will be our manager next season. 🙁

  • Novocastrian66

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #32

    Blew; he’s all three rolled into one, with a bit of Glen Roeder sprinkled on top.
    Have you noticed when Pardew is shown on TV scouting other teams he always wearing a pair of glasses. He never has them on in the dug out. Perhaps if he started wearing them when we’re playing he would be able to see how shit we are!

  • yo-yo

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #33


    I don’t shout and scream PARDEW OUT 20-30 times a da,.
    endelssly chanting the same mantra. This is a verbal battering not an opinion. When Catchy comments on a range of football matters, as he occasionally does, then I’m all ears, as it is then worthy or attention – as are your own opinions when they don’t always conclude with the same shout

  • John Tudor

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #34

    @32 hahahah

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #35

    C’mon lads cheer up.

    Pardew’s promised us we’ll finish mid-table next season.
    Get the open-topped bus out of mothballs and get your street parties planned.

  • John Tudor

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #36

    where in the champonship come on now please

  • ichrisho

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #37

    Back from nonsense… What does Leverage and Going Forward really mean??? Who Cares… Pardew IN… 🙂

  • Jayk

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #38

    get rid of the stupid pop up ads!

  • Trent Toon

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #39

    From the way Ed is writing I think he wants AP gone also!

  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Apr 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #40

    On my day off and every thread is Pardew making excuse after excuse rather than growing a pair and accepting the blame, although we know he is too stubborn (or stupid) too change. You can imagine in training a coversation going domething like this

    Cabaye- “Alan can we try a different set piece instead of me aiming for Taylor at the back post? , it has been over 400 corners since we scored”

    Pardew – “Yohan we was getting closer, keep it up”

    It must go something like that because nothing has changed. Anyway back to Fallout New Vegas 😉

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