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Cisse And Lots Of Other Players Could Now Leave Newcastle

8:53 pm, Sunday, April 28th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 48 Comments

It’s probably not worth talking too much about which players  could leave Newcastle in the summer, for at least three weeks, until we know which division we will be playing in next season.

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Papiss Cisse – in happier times at Newcastle

But in either case there will be a huge clear-out of players – but of course it will be a lot different if we are relegated.

In that case some of our top players will want to leave to secure their places in the French squad for next year’s World Cup in Brazil.

And they would include players like Yohan Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Mathieu Debuchy and Moussa Sissoko, and of course if they leave the club, Newcastle would be back to square one – and it’s not clear how Ashley and LLambias would handle a second relegation in four years.

And there’s news today that Borussia Dortmund are targeting Newcastle striker Papiss Cisse, if the great Robert Lewandowski leaves the club this summer, and that’s according to the Sunday Express.

Some top clubs will want the Polish International, especially after his fantastic performance last week against Real Madrid, when he scored four brilliant goals.

They include Manchester United and Bayern Munich, and his teammate Mario Gotze has already announced he will switch to Munich, where Bayern are building some team.

Dortmund are said to have Newcastle’s Papiss Cisse in their sights, and he’s scored 13 goals in 43 games for the club, and we are going through one of the most torrid seasons ever in the Premier League.

Papiss has already been successful in the Bundesliga with SC Freiburg for three seasons, before he joined Newcastle just over a year ago for around £9M.

The fee mentioned is £15M and if we are relegated we think Newcastle would probably take that offer  - as a lot of our star players will be unloaded – and a lot more of them will need to leave than left four years ago.

However, if Newcastle are still in the Premier League next season, Mike Ashley will demand a lot more than £15M to let Papiss leave Tyneside.

What do you think?

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48 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:54 PM


    Pardew has clearly messed up to out it lightly over the last few weeks but the vitriol on here beggars belief at times.

    1) Is it pardews fault – yes and he appears to have lost his bottle now.

    2) But it is also the fault of a board who when finishing 5th and the prospect of Europa did NOTHING to strengthen the team. WE lost Demba and no replacement striker was brought in – pardew has had to rely on sissoko for physical absence of Ba.

    3) and finally, injuries – lots of them to all our best players.

    4) People also say a lot about Carr – hero worship him, and extol our business model as the one to follow. Will anyone follow it now? Have we bought too many frenchmen? Look at the france squad – dripping with talent but they lack heart and steel when it matters.

    That is a truly objective view.

  • 2 LGFUAD21 // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:55 PM


    Would love that to be true but I still think they’ll give Pardew a chance next season before firing him.

    The board have backed him at every turn. They gave him 18m to spend in Jan. we invested well. No excuses.

    Strange thing is that hughton got sacked for less so they could build a team with a more experienced manager and we got pardew.

    Would welcome Benitez as he is a master tactician but I think he will try and use us as a step up.

    Would like a young hungry manager like Poyet.

    Benitez has done a great job in structuring the. Loose cannon that is the Chelsea squad.

    I like Pardew as a guy but he just hasn’t got what it takes. Never seems to correct long term problems with style of play.

    Benitez is the sort of strong willed guy we need. He will point out what the team are. Doing wrong.

  • 3 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    On this article – cisse has let us down this season missing a plethora of chances and being offside more than anyone else.

  • 4 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Pardew, Board and players are to blame. But to be fair pardew has to shoulder most of the blame, he is the manager.

  • 5 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    is ED reading my comments in previous threads?

  • 6 wolfshead@toon // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    im sick of hearing about benitez we cant afford him ffs

  • 7 jimmysmith // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Those 8 year contracts are now looking just another in a long line of Ashley clangers.

    Even if it is performance based, he was handing them out like wine gums.

    He just isn’t a football man, is he? He’s a retailer on a steep and punishing learning curve.

    Rafa would be great. He is a proper manager. Still, seems a fanciful prospect under Ash. Surely wouldn’t come cheap, all told with comings and goings.

  • 8 LGFUAD21 // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Personally think the transfer policy is spot on and can work.

    It would take a lot to turn us into consistent champions league contenders but being realistic the arsenal model could easily establish us as a tote ham that has the potential to challenge or get Europa each season.

    I don’t think I’d be too upset if cisse left. He can be really exciting to watch but a team of our kind can’t afford an inconsistent 1dimensional poacher to be our number 9.

    We need to encourage more goals from our midfield while bringing in a good all rounder or a battler like Carroll to lead the line.

  • 9 yo-yo // Apr 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM


    Some good points true but you’re as subjective as the rest of us :)

  • 10 lucasnufc // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Far too much depression today, can’t take it. Enjoy this for some comic relief…

  • 11 NUFCarter // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Pardew has sort of apologized not from him but from the players??? so he might as well of said “the playing staff apologise to the fans I will get them playing like I have done for the last years organised and in the front foot.” god I hate Pardew!

  • 12 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    lol yo-yo

    I consider myself reprimanded. Touche!

  • 13 NUFCarter // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    it is so hard to post these days with all of these bloody adverts!

  • 14 wreker16 // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Pardew is simply a muppet.

    “In hindsight the team selection didn’t work for us”

    What he should have said “in hindsight its clear i got the team selection wrong and for that I’m sorry, also I’m resigning with immediate effect as I feel it’s the best thing to do for the football club.”

    But you don’t do that do you Pardew

  • 15 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    A football manager is paid a lot of money to have hindsight.

  • 16 LGFUAD21 // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    The players have let us down but at the same time they are all still quite young and learning a new league. With the amount of coaching they appear to get its no wonder they underperform.

    Tiote has gone downhill but he’s clearly frustrated by his injuries and almost tries too hard. A good coach could easily iron out his flaws (too much time on the ball) desperation to break up play with no danger apparent.

    Cabaye is under used in a deep role.

    Anita who probably has. Oe of the better understandings of the game from past clubs is relegated to the bench.

    Sissokho is foolishly played as a forward.

    Jonas has been brainwashed into babysitting fullbacks or ripening into traps.

    Marveaux has real quality and should’ be a a game hanger in the whole but he is relegated despite some great performances.

    Haidara and mapou have been thrown in the deep end.

    All santon needs is to be taught how to close a player down and contain them.

    Cisse needs to be taught the offside rule and to battle for balls. And how to deal with being man marked.

    Our team is so disjointed with players consigned to one or no role that our attack is isolated and defence vulnerable.

    No tempo what so ever.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:05 PM


    I don’t think it’s too many frenchmen as such.

    I think its more whenever you have a dominant group in the dressing room, which cabaye, debuchy, sissoko, mbiwa etc seem to be part of then you can easily have a split when things go wrong.

    Get an us and them situation internally which doesn’t help.

    Same reason why the club broke up the nolan and barton group.

  • 18 check the toastie // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Cisse wont leave he loves the Toon and is shacked up with Miss Newcastle, good old Papa. Papa has been hung out to dry by Parsnip this year, playing down the left hand side and now totally isolated.

    Pardew was more comfortable with Besty and Ba, just getting Tim to loaf the ball long, hasnt got a clue if we dont have a target man, its why he always goes to Shola for a goal, which is moronic in the extreme.

    Repost for wolfhead – true definition of Evil is Profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, esp. when regarded as a supernatural force.

    Parsnip doesnt quite qualify but he has defo caused me the utmost of misery over the last 18 month, the performances and footballing philosophy is truly mind blowing, almost wickedly supernatural. Yesterday im sure there was some dark forces at work in the ground.

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    i like how mourinho came out and took blame for the dortmund defeat, blamed players but himself also.


  • 20 NUFCarter // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    its like he didnt choose who plays and what formation we play but if we had won he would be saying “i chose a suitable lineup today which really worked and revealed liverpools weaknesses.

  • 21 LGFUAD21 // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    No of those points require some magical change in player ability. They are just basic football concepts that our staff can’t pick up on.

    Look at fergie. He’s walked away with a title with some fairly mediocre players in terms of ability. The difference is that for what they lack in technicality they make up for in understanding of the game. This is clear from the way Gary Neville has become a top pundit.

  • 22 yo-yo // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM


    It’s all a bit mad on here. More acid than a glass etching plant.

    Kets was on earlier – admitting that Toby won’t come to us now – and asking for advice on shaving gear
    He’s so mainstream now that nobody took the P about Alderwiereld or even took the mick about him being old enough to shave.

  • 23 Tommyy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Captain Hindsight.

  • 24 NUFCarter // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    LGFUAD21 for manager! :)

  • 25 jimmysmith // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Stranger things have happened I guess, but I’d be amazed if he resigns. He wouldn’t receive any compensation if he did, nor do I think he feels sufficiently responsible and I’m sure he wouldn’t publicly and by inference at least, suggest he couldn’t turn it around.

  • 26 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    lol yoyo

    TBH I haven’t watched the last 2 games for the first time in a long time. I’ve got a ticket for Arsenal though, but do I want to see us relegated in that game?

  • 27 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Now rugby – there is a mans game!

  • 28 yo-yo // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM


    If not hindsight then he should have foresight – I posted that the Fools would come at us big time – it was that obvious.
    He is expected to plan for the opposition’s tactics on the day

  • 29 NUFCarter // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    it must have been a strange atmosphere at the madejski today. both teams being releagated and all.

  • 30 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    On the previous thread:
    Do you lot seriously give a fcuk if he’s apologised or not?

    I don’t, I’m not interested in hearing any apologies from pardew

    I’m not interested in hearing sob stories from Taylor telling us to stand by them

    I’m not interested in hearing from that football Neanderthal carver

    All I’m interested in is that sorry bunch of excuses dust themselves off get some fcuking focus and get 3 points against west ham, because believe me they are going to need to be fired up because a 3 lads at west ham that would be more than happy to stick the knife in on Ashley

    As for this article
    So what, do your jobs get us safe then by all means fcuk off, there disgraceful attitude and lack of graft is as bigger factor in this season as pardew
    Cisse I wish you’d of gone to chelski instead of Ba I’d take him over you every day of the week

  • 31 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    TBH I dont think nufc will ever win a trophy under this regime. They could quite easily with another 20mil and a decent staff setup. Peanuts to Ashley but he’s not a newcastle man.

    Chelsea, Liverpool and Man C have so much money now we’ll never catch them.

    Football has lost it’s soul i’m afraid. I mean you sit here and think our ONLY chance of success is if an oil tycoon comes in and buys us.

    Sad times all round.

  • 32 yo-yo // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:15 PM


    Especially if you’re Welsh like me !!!

  • 33 AlwaysTOON // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    So 2morrow? are we hoping to sunderland to win? I quess rigth? :/
    Anyways, my predictions is these
    West Ham – Newcastle 3 point
    QPR – Newcastle 1 point
    Newcastle – Arsenal 1 point
    I quess AP has got some kind of ulitmation from the board, and HAS TO win some point now..
    Lets try to stay positive in these dark dark days

  • 34 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    I wish pardew would walk, I wouldn;t have to red pardew out on every thread!

    The problems are much deeper than pards though I’m afraid.

  • 35 Spuggy // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    The Di Canio bubble will burst, trust me.

  • 36 JackButler // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    The players would stay if we had a manager who could actually lead them, coach them and manage them

  • 37 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    To be honest i don’t want to here a word coming out of Newcastle United – manager, players, coaches, directors etc etc., just keep their heads down and concentrate on the job in hand – Keeping Newcsatle United in the premiership.

    Please no bullshit on what they are going to do or excuses

  • 38 NUFCarter // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    no player should leave if we are relegated unless they are told to because they are that shite! no player has consistently played to their standard except for williamson who has been cosistently shite. players like cisse, mapou, sisssoko, cabaye, tiote, guiterezz, taylor, and debuchy should all redeem themselves by showing what they’re really made of next season with the new manager (very optimistic). The players cant just fcuk off and leave us in the shite they and pardew put us in. Because i know thats what most of em are thinking.

  • 39 yo-yo // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    you know we’re looking for another goalie ?

  • 40 joeinthecheapseats // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    I’m still not surprised he hasn’t gone but think its only a matter of time getting hammered like that off a mid table team is unacceptable.
    No wingers or centre forward to play with Cisse means we are all to predictable every week.
    Sick of all the excuses thanks for last season but your only as good as your last result Pardew time to go

  • 41 mot7 // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Not botherd how many of this heartless bunch leave in the summer .
    Far better players have come and gone but nufc is still here so bollocks to the lot of the lazy bastards.
    And we move on to to cheer the next bunch of underachievers thats how it goes up here

  • 42 Harley // Apr 28, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    I don’t think pardew will be going anywhere soon. Assuming we stay up, I think Ashley will stick with him.
    The underwhelming feeling at the start of next season will be awful if he’s still in charge.
    I’ve always been one to give him a chance but these last 2 home games have been the final straw.
    Imagine the feel good factor if we kick off a new premiership season with a few new signings and a good manager like blanc.
    I think Ashley has the best interest at heart but he’s all about business and cannot seem to tap on the emotion of football. This is what is costing him. The business model is good but there has to be an exception now and then.

  • 43 JP...from The Rock // Apr 28, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    I feel sick just reading the headline let alone talk about relegation AGAIN!

  • 44 pbandj // Apr 28, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Ha is Dortmund going to buy Cisse?? have they been watching him play this season?? to replace Lewandowski with Cisse would be about the dumbest decision I’ve ever heard. Cisse misses more chances than my grandmother. He is a horrible striker and must take much of the blame for the team being as low on the table as we are…

  • 45 Greebol1892 // Apr 29, 2013 at 3:45 AM

    Welcome to the blog of DOOM…..

  • 46 ToonMatt // Apr 29, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    If Cisse took his chances we would have had more points then we do now, He’s not good enough and if someone wants to pay £15m for him then good luck to them.

  • 47 derekm // Apr 29, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    the dip in form in recent weeks could be down to the players believing that Manu have a huge offer on the table for Cabaye – having promoted the club to all his french compatriates for him to move on would cause a massive dip in morale.

  • 48 benjohnsen // Apr 29, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Cisse is not a striker to leave alone on top, he needs players around him. Newcastle have gone from playing 4-3-3 last spring to defensive 4-5-1, hoping to get a goal in this season tactic. It’s a coward tactic, leaving the team frustrated. My pick for the team against West Ham would be:

    Simpson – Taylor – Coloccini – Mbiwa
    Cabaye – Tiote – Gutierrez
    Ben Arfa – Cisse – Gourffran

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