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Mike Ashley Will Spend Big This Summer – If We Survive

10:45 am, Tuesday, April 30th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 748 Comments

It may not be comforting news for Newcastle fans that Mike Ashley is willing to spend some big money in the summer, assuming we are still in the Premier League.

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Mike Ashley - will spend big this summer

If we are not, then there is probably even more work to do, although we are in much better financial health than we were four years ago.

I even thought about writing what would need to happen if we do get relegated, but I decided against it – I’m depressed enough as it is. :D

The news is that Andy Carroll is one of the targets and it’s going to be interesting to see how Andy plays against us on Saturday, where a good performance and heaven forbid a goal – could help Newcastle on their way down.

Unfortunately for us he’s looked in good form recently.

Newcastle will need to keep most of their best players in the summer, but there will be a clear-out of fringe players for sure for sure, whether we stay up or go down.

And if we stay up, it should be an exciting summer with players leaving and new players coming in – and there will likely be a new manager appointed early in the summer, so he can look at which players may be coming into the club.

We find it hard to believe that Rafa Benitez would want to come to Newcastle, but Roberto Di Mateo could be a good appointment.

If we are relegated it will be a depressing summer – a very depressing summer – I need say no more.

Finally, I am having some exploratory surgery today, and there could be no articles posted past 12 noon time Newcastle time, but all  being well I should be back tomorrow.

I also think I finally fixed the redirect advert problem yesterday – you will need to clear your cache – sorry for the trouble it caused.

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748 responses so far ↓

  • 1 boater // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Short memories on here. Remember when everyone was utterly convinced that Williamson was the reason we were in a mess? I suggested he wasn’t the best defender in the world, but by no means the main problem with the club. We are defensively worse since he’s been dropped braniacs.

    I’d like to think you would feel suitably stupid and learn a lesson. No chance, you can’t wait to get your placards out for the next red herring.

  • 2 JAMSHA // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    This Man Is A Lier… He Says He Will Spend Big.. But Will End up Sellng One Of Them For Big

  • 3 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    if we want to talk about leadership

    MA, sets out his wants list, as cheap a team as possible, but players must fit his little list first, young, internationals, cheap, pref going out of contract,

    this i dont mind
    but its implemented by

    tadah

    DL,, inspired choice ,

    he says, MA, i have this friend, come into your casino and has lost a fortune ( some say) can i unsettle our team that is moving forward and give him a job, that way we can ensure to get our money back,

    1 lucky season later, wooosh, a 8 year contract, un heard of,

    now DL faces loosing face if he sacks him, this does not reflect good on him at all,

    AP, has turned a happy mid table team into fantastic bottom 4 team, this has to be the best team ever down at the bottom with 3 games togo,

    i hear that cabaye is depressed? well if he is, pardew should take out of the team, tell him to relax, instead , there you go son,, your captain, get me out of this mess,, but i want you to play as deep as humanly possible, to make it better, my wingers are sissoko bigi jonas,, oh wait for it cabs,, this is the best part, im bringing shola on at half time, to stand still and foul everyone,
    how about that son,

    great leadership skills all the way down

  • 4 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Jamsha No Mate,

    You can watch the full match on monday @ 2, if you wanna

  • 5 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    lol Ed no he won’t. He’ll do it as cheaply as he can.

  • 6 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    ED

    COME ON

    Roberto Di Mateo would not be a good appointment

    he would be only a very slight improvment,

    Roberto Di Mateo , is a man who said , i know, lets not play with a striker,

    yeeehaaa

  • 7 check the toastie // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    If Ashley does spend big, ll that money needs to go on a top top manager, its the only way clubs move forward. Chelsea have a great squad but the constant chopping of managers is undermining them. We need to go out and pay big bucks for somebody who is going to bring good times to Toon.

  • 8 jordijohnty // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    surprise, surprise its having all those froggies in the team as to why we are so abject. well, according to some knob on talksport. Pardew is as popular with the media as ‘arry. If the lazy journos took the time to see our starting line on sat, then they would see who is at fault. I suppose to them tw@tts in london, its us as toon fans who are knee jerk reacting to getting rid of this loser. Still angry

  • 9 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    YEAH Ed!

    If we survive, he gets 60-80 million and he spends 15-20 of them.

    Blah Blah Blah

  • 10 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    I think Ashley is learning as he goes and I think if we stay up – big if – there will be one all mighty shake-up from manager down to players.

    His biggest choice will be getting the right manager in.

    Plenty of names thrown in the hat but hell knows who but not one of the oldtimers that do the merry go round like Hughes

  • 11 JAMSHA // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Indian

    Huh My Bad Wont B able to watch it… leavn for goa on 6th at mrng

  • 12 Barton // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    MA spend big? ha’way man when has he ever ? so he aint going to start now,am more concerned he has’nt used his left foot to plug Pardews backside as he is kicking him out the door! its ruddy tuesday and some how he still in the job,when is MA going to relise,when its to late ?

  • 13 Spotlight Kid // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Spend all you like on good footballer, with Pardew in charge you are simply casting pearls before piggies. The fact this is deemed a worthy article is embarrassing as it assumes all Geordies are idiots – as this is the basis Ashley runs the club – and will jump for joy and start making suggestions who we need, thus deflecting criticism from the Ashley-Llambias-Pardew trinity of incompetence which couldn’t keep the team in the PL with the whole German international team on board let alone the French.

  • 14 terencelim // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Yeah, action speaks louder than words. The club owner will “earn bigger” from the club’s asset before “spend big”.

  • 15 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Next story please

  • 16 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    41eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Just had to get that out my system can we get something at west aam??? Can we get something at qpr??? Our away form has been shocking but the last few away games we have played good stuff in spells and created chances, apart from citeh. Can we do it against arsenal??? Could we have a harder home game than this at the end to survive i dont think we could.

  • 17 JAMSHA // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-under-21s-step-closer-3306530?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Newcastle United
    Under-21s a step
    closer to league title

  • 18 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    I’d take Carroll back in an instant. Scored some cracking goals for us. Wouldn’t mind Nolan and Barton returning too!

  • 19 Spotlight Kid // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Ed, man, have some spirit. Use this blog for positive change not for this sort of pro-Ashley and pro-Pardew bribery and propaganda. Even if the club has to crash and burn, let’s do it with dignity, NUFC is a lot bigger than the manager and the board and the chairman and the owner. It’s not even about the 52,000 in the ground but the whole of Tyneside and the Geordie diaspora. It has become Ashley’s plaything, it’s like FIFA 2013 for billionaires and then you throw it away when you lose.

    We have been HUMILIATED at home in two successive games, and still Pardew is parading around saying he is the man for the job – and worse still getting away with it with the blessing of the board.

    Wake up, Ed, forget the advertising and throw this blog behind real and lasting change. And that won’t come until Ashley is history.

  • 20 Jackel001 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    I have a strange feeling that Cabaye will be dropped. Reports coming out that he got stuck into Pardew at the team meetings yesterday also with him saying Colo will be wearing the armband straight away, yes I know he’s the clubs #1 captain but just seems a bit bold considering.

    Also hope all goes well with the surgery Ed and THANKS for sorting those stupid adds haha

  • 21 clinath@ed // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    every PL team will spend big this summer! its who spends wisely that matters.

  • 22 JAMSHA // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    just speakn about adds gone… i just got one nw

    http://www.srtrc.org/

    :|

  • 23 Roppa // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Ed, Good luck with the exploratory surgery, I hope all goes well.

  • 24 Foxworth // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Forget about NUFC for a while – best of luck at the doc’s Ed :-D

    Somethings are more important than football – not a lot mind, but some! Good luck again!!!

  • 25 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    All the best ED

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    good luck Ed…hope everything goes well for you.

  • 27 jail4pardew // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    I would not say there is one fan certain we can stay up, last time we went down there were plenty ar this srage said we would be ok, it is such a precarious situation,

    I would play Colo in front of saylor and mbiwa, great on the ball and reads the fame terrifically, tiote n perch have had plentyof chances and have blown it.

    I feel Pardew will still go in with tiote and perch, hes that dosile, if he gets this wrong the fella has no hiding place and carver as well as they no doubt talk tactics all week, well for half an hour anyway?!?!?

    I hope he dosnt start bleeting on about experianced heads, cos they have put us in this shit, the young lad adam campbell may bot even be in the squad knowing pardew but he could just be the savior if given a chance, pardew will of course fo with shola as first sub yet again, yawn yawn.

    My team

    Elliot
    Debuchy
    Hadaira
    Mbiwa
    Saylor
    Colocini
    Sissoko

    Cabaye
    Marveaux

    Gouffy
    Cisse

    Subs, harper,tiote,anita,perch, shola,CAMPBELL.

    Thats decent on paper for me, get the team thinking ti win rather than not to loose and we could be quids in.

    Unfortunatly not a hope in hell with this manager, jonas and tiote will both start about 95 per cent sure on that,

    Anita to play if no colo also Anita to play if no marveaux.

    I just feel colo could do a great job in front of mbiwa n saylor

    Something has to change, the gamble is to big for all of us if he persists with his previous line ups and formations.

  • 28 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    I am optimistics no matter who we play, where we play, but just before the match i get kittens

  • 29 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Catchy…

    He played without a striker but look who he could put out.. mata, ramirez, oscar, lampard, hazard…

    All these midfielders have an eye for goal.

    If he was to do the same with our creative players… benarfa, marvo, anita, cabaye, gouffran…

    then i can bet u it would be a whole lot more interesting than what he puts out atm.

    Eds got a point Di Mateo would be a good appointment…

    1. He is tactically more intelligent than Pardew in everyway.

    2. I think he would want to prove his worth in this league again and show Abromovich he was wrong to sack him last season.

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    di matteo has been poor except for a 4 month period at chelsea where basically the players won it for him, he had little impact overall.

  • 31 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    jail4pardew
    Debuchy got a red card so Simmo will probably be RB. Willo will also play 100 % since otherwise Carroll will destroy Taylor in the air.
    Elliot
    Simmo Willo Colo Perch
    Sissoko Tiote Cabaye Jonas
    Cisse Shola

    It’s my guess as a starting 11.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    sazzer

    willo isn’t good in the air though, he’s just tall.

  • 33 GenralHez // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    I tend to agree with Jail4Pardew, good 1st team but I would not have Stroller on the bench.

    I believe we will survive because there are other teams worse than us.

    We need new manager who understands modern fotball and the concept of ‘let’s go out and win’.

    We also need fitness coaches in the summer, maybe someone from the back ground of Rugby/ Cycling/ Tennis just about any sport really should imprve the standard NUFC have dropped to.

  • 34 sirjasontoon // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Hope we can invest in more French talent in the summer and keep Pardew for a season in the championship.

  • 35 clinath@ed // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Remember when that young lad from Wallsend scored against us for Blackburn, to stop us winning the league, Shearer balled him out and they ripped his photos down from the Boys club?…….Carroll will have a stinker, trust me!

  • 36 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    I hope get safe within two games so we can start discussing next season.

  • 37 Jackel001 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    You lads reckon MA has said to Pardew ATTACK! I hope so haha

  • 38 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Di matteo? How did chelsea win the CL again, was it defensive park the bus football, the exact reason people want pardew out? Oh yes of course it was. Di matteo would simply be a sidestep from pardew not one forward.

  • 39 stuart no9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    today is a very sad day for NUFC.
    To hear that AP is staying on to try and save us, is the worst possible news i could have wished for- that news IMO confirms to me – we are down.
    We needed a new man in the dressing room against WHU to talk to the players before the game.
    Tactics is not AP best qualities, so that isnt going to save us, he cant use the good players we haveso what does he do? we need someone who can make them feel 10 ft tallwhen they walk out the dressing room,-not already beaten like pardew will surely make them feel, so for that reason – WE ARE DOWN !

  • 40 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Transfer Sage
    He’s only in 5 th place in Europe winning aerial duels. Carroll, Benteke, Crouch and Manucho in front of him. He’s might not have the best accuracy on his headers but gets his head first on the ball a lot.

  • 41 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Boater

    Sorry Willo is still s…te

    Wish Ashley would just spend money on getting a proper manager with a good CV.

    We got more players who looked great before they were Pardewed.

    So Carroll is the plan to mask Pardew’s lack of technical coaching and passing ability next season. Yet more hoof ball. I can hardly wait! Where’s my season ticket application!!!

  • 42 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Thats the only way chelsea would have won against barca meaning a good tactical decision that won yhem the cup.

    Do u think Di Mateo would sit back against reading?

  • 43 Ian Toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Transfer Sage – Bible verse from Isaiah! Pardew needs all the help he can get to find the inspiring words to motivate the team prior to kick off at West Ham. Can you help?

  • 44 corkypants85 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    good luck ed!!!!!

  • 45 Jackel001 // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Wow Stuart. End of the day we all need to back the TEAM no good saying we are down indefinitely. If we get something on Saturday then it would shock everyone if we went down.

  • 46 ErnestHemingway // Apr 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    I didn’t see Monday Night Football this week (night out, slightly hungover today) but I have just read Gary Nevilles’ comments and I totally agree with them.

    I don’t think it’s as simplistic as blaiming the french, but we have too many players who don’t understand this league playing in our first team at the moment. This is making matters even worse now we are ensconced in the lower reaches of the league in a relegation dogfight. The reason why everyone is so wary of Wigan, is that they’ve been in this position before and have the wherewithal and experience to claw their way out of a dogfight. We have bought foreign players over who haven’t even been involved in relegation fights in the league they came from, let alone in a far tougher league, playing for a club with extremely demanding fans who have – within the last few years – seen a squad who was arguably more talented than this one, be relegated to the second tier.

    Things are looking bleak.

    For the remaining games, we need to pick and XI who will battle, fight and KNOW they will have to battle and fight to get out of this situation. No Mbiwa, no Tiote, I would even be tempted to have Sissoko on the bench aswell. For me, the back four especially needs experienced, seasoned players who understand the English game; Simpson, Colo, Taylor and Perch across the back; I would even be tempted to bring Dan Gosling in to the team, he is a goal threat at least and knows what’s needed. Shola up top with Cisse. If we continue in the same vein as we have for the previous weeks, we will struggle to pick up another point.

  • 47 Ian Toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    MOTIVATION comes from within. Don’t rule out the players responsibility for the mess were in!

  • 48 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Stuart,

    We are safe, just, as it’s too much for Wigan to do now.
    Can’t await to see Perch, Guti and Tiote line up again!!

    Pardew doesn’t deserve our players. You just know elsewhere Cabs, Benny and M’Biwa would look world class under proper managers.

    Pardew just has such a demoralising effect and apparently at Southampton the morale was so low just before he got sacked. The arrogant classless and clueless oaf needs to move on asap.

  • 49 nufc 11 // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    For me id like to see Neil Lennon seems to have a winining mentality or die trying or Gus Poyet or even Martinez

  • 50 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    @rotonda
    how many seasons have wigan escaped relagation now? haha

  • 51 t00ntime // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Cant see cabaye being dropped for shouting at AP. AP probably shouted at them and them at him, everyone would of been angry with each other and themselves. The important thing is that they sort it out on the training ground before yhe whu game and we are all back and ready to fight for the cause (fans included).

    It wont of just been cabaye complaining and it wont of been as bad as papers make it sound, they just like the idea of a team falling apart that did so well the season before. makes for a great story ;-)
    But im pretty sure its normal, just have to hope we get the points on saturday
    Thats just my opnion

  • 52 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Harper, Willo and Simmo brought back to save our skins … who’d have thought … Shola too?

    Obertan is on form … better than Sissoko as a winger.

    Feel sorry for the French lads … not their faults.
    Without their contribution since January we’d already be down.

    Pardew sucks.
    Llambias sucks as DM.
    Ashley sucks as owner.

    A humiliating season just getting worse and worse.
    How many will Arsenal score?
    I think double figures might be possible.

  • 53 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Ian

    Enough already. Pardew’s minimum requirement is to motivate the players. On that alone he has failed spectacularly before we even get in to tactics or lack of them. This is undeniable and indisputable fact. Deal with it.

  • 54 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    @ernest
    have to disagree with you about tiote if ever there was a warrior its him lol

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    wolfshead

    it’s a step too far this time. that shocking 90th minute decision v spurs has done for them I think.

  • 56 aidantoon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Hope your ok Ed.

    I think if we get beat against west ham pardew will then be sacked we may still need a result v qpr.

  • 57 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    NUFC 11

    You and I could win the scottish league with celtic. they don’t even have to play rangers any more !!!

    Poyet is a better shout. Polar opposite of pardew. Plays an exciting attractive brand of football and lets players express themselves and go for a 2nd or 3rd goal, not put 10 men in their own half at home with 3 x DMs.

  • 58 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    What decision? were they harshly done by

  • 59 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Rainrix

    I believe Di Matteo got MK dons and WBA promoted in his first seasons. Didn’t have money at WBA to do anything and did what he had to do to beat beat Messi and co.

    He isn ‘t normally defensive and hasn’t been relegated with nearly with 2 different teams, maybe 3 soon or had 2 record losing streaks at 2 different clubs.

    No way is he a sidestep but a definite upgrade.

  • 60 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    no luck needed ed all the best

  • 61 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Rotonda all Wigan’s games bar Arsenal (a) are winnable.
    They are playing very well.

    Villa must be confident too.

    Points in the bag help but one Wigan win and all the pressure is on us and our away record stinks. Why should that change?

    The QPR game is massive. Their last home game in the Prem.

    I’m very worried.
    I watched Wigan on Saturday they played really well and we’re better than Spurs. Who got two lucky goals.

  • 62 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Ernest

    so you are saying replace quality foreign players with c..p workaday championship English players because they will fight more even if they have little to no talent to go with it.

    Shola is the laziest player I’ve ever seen apart from his brother and will just give away free kicks and = hoof ball. Saylor has been absolutely shocking. Gosling is p..s poor and has shown nothing. Perch is not a left back.

  • 63 Mark the Mag // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    All the best Ed, don’t know what I do without this blog, same probably goes for a lot of fans around the world. Thanks again Ed from Mark.

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    hatem

    wigan are playing well but not getting the breaks.

  • 65 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    @rotonda

    do you think carver and stone have had they’re time as well?

  • 66 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Rotonda…. On the flip-side WBA’s form quickly slipped when he got them back in the PL and roy kept them up easily enough afterwards.

    Defensive football might’ve been a bit of a generalisation but i think it shows that against the stronger teams he’ll go defensive which is exactly what people complain about pardew for. Admittedly he will probably attack weaker teams which would make him an upgrade on pardew :)

    I just dont think its to much of a progressive enough move really. I know i’ve berated going for inexperienced at the top level managers like poyet but i’d sooner go for someone like that than matteo. I just dont think he’s all that different from pardew when it comes down to it whereas poyet or someone else is the polar opposite of the defensive managerial spectrum.

  • 67 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Rotonda

    Exactly mate!

    Also defencive is not always a bad thing if u can score goals at the same time, which Di Mateo proved.

    Pardew has never proved that.

    ….defencive, negative tactics isnt the only thing wrong with Pardew.

  • 68 toonluvva // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    The extra money will mean the following:-

    A poor player will now cost the same as a fair player
    ” fair ” ” ” ” ” ” ” ” good ”
    ” good ” ” ” ” ” ” ” ” v good ”
    ” v good ” ” ” ” ” ” ” ” international player.

    In short, we’ll spend more to get the same quality of players.

    In our case, it’s pointless spending big if we still have Llambias and Pardew in charge.

    I’d rather Ashley put some of money toward paying off both of those clowns and bringing in a good management team. A couple of strikers and a CB would be nice.

  • 69 ErnestHemingway // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Rotonda

    This is exactly what we were saying the season we were relegated;

    “We can’t not play Owen, Viduka, Butt, Duff, Martins etc. They are quality”.

    I don’t see quality from many players at the minute. Mbwia hasn’t had a decent game yet. Haidara is young and inexperienced – he has potential – but that potential is all it is at the minute. Sissoko hasn’t played well for ages. Pardew can be blamed for playing him in a position that is (slightly) alien to him, but to not be able to pass the ball 10 yards is his failure, not the manager. Tiote has been dreadful for 18 months.

    Perch has played left back for us before and played well. I don’t see that as a problem, especially as West Ham play “inside-out” wingers. They will be cutting in on this good foot, his right foot. I would certainly prefer Perch as a left back than as a midfielder and I would prefer him over Jonas, Haidara any day of the week.

    Of course we need guts, Rotonda. Without that, we will go down.

  • 70 one Tony Green // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Hope all goes well for you fella. Lets hope Newcastle can do something to help you keep your spirits up..Most of the lads on here will be cheering for you.

  • 71 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    sazzer

    Apologies.

    never realised he was 5th…genuinely not seen stats but from watching him i thought it was lower. Maybe biased after seeing him lose the header to little victor moses last year

  • 72 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Rainrix…

    Against man u and arsenal…

    Did he defend?

    He actually attacked our two hardest games of the season…

    And pretty much defended the rest of them.

  • 73 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    when we know what we need hide pardew in a bog then ashley pays big money as win bonuses thats all these mercenaries are after

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Ernest

    Those were all pretty much English / British players that took us down before and most of them were Shearer’s mates whom he could not motivate to get more than 5 points from 8 games !!!.

    We just need to play a proper formation NOT 3x DMs with 10 men staying in their own half. Let other teams worry about all our internationals for a change.

    GK??

    Saylor Colo M’Biwa Haidara

    Sissoko Anita

    Cabaye

    Benny Cisse Goofy/Marveaux

  • 75 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    cockney

    the worst thing is if we played like we did in the man utd game against everyone else we would have won a lot more, or at least had the chance to win more. Not many teams would have had the quality of man utd to put 4 past us.

  • 76 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    If Carver and Stone don’t have the brain or the balls to tell Pardew how it is, then they need to go as well.

    The backroom staff at Newcastle is like a lad’s club, and it’s not going to work under a new manager. they would want to bring in their own staff.

  • 77 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Cockney…. I know and thats the only time ive think we had a decent performance all season. Btw i was referring to matteo when i mentioned hard games.

    The point I’m making is matteo really isn’t that much better than pardew and i feel theres better options. The CL title really glosses over a mediocre managerial career imo. If we’re gonna sack him then we might as well be ambitious when appointing a manager. Matteo stinks of more “stability”.

  • 78 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    I like that team rotonda but wouldnt u rather simmo right back, or even perch?

  • 79 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Wolfshead

    Indeed, i think we need a root and branch change from top to bottom if that isn’t too many mixed metaphors.

  • 80 Ashingtonexile // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    We have spent big before and got no results except huge debts, we have had some total wasters as manager as well but the club still survives. So no matter what happens, no matter where we are next season NUFC will still be here and for me at least that is the important thing.

  • 81 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    cockney

    just thinking of Carrol’s height maybe. Not a Saylor fan as I think he’s been dreadful.

  • 82 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Transfer sage…

    Spot on mate!

    Pardew saw the negatives in those games when in fact he should of seen the positives as those deffinately out weighted the negatives…

    But hey, what do u expect from positive Pardew?

  • 83 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    for everyone who rates wigan and martinez

    there best two finishes in the league have come under paul jewel and then steve bruce.

    Martinez has had them in a relegation fight every year.

  • 84 Ian Toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Much has been made of Pardew’s lack of tactical acumen. Some of his tactical systems have been more oppressive than used by other PL managers. However, many managers and I am thinking particularly of Arsene Wenger believe in giving players more of a free reign. No player though can not be aware of the need for tactics as they are all part of a team. The more gifted and talented are given a freer role whilst others are told not to venture much beyond the half way line. Tactics nevertheless. Good players often have teams built around them. Young quality players learn from an early age how to react appropriately during the course of a game. Players and tactics are inter- connected.

  • 85 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    If it’s true that the players are on success related bonuses and they worked their socks off last season to get that bonus,can you imagine the feeling of betrayal and disappointment when faced with an EL campaign the owner decides to downsize the firstvteam squad when even the most ardent of Ashleys supporters were saying we needed to strengthen,then a further sense of betrayal when their leader is given an eight year deal for his lies is publicly spouting that we don’t need any new players.

  • 86 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    I actually thought Tiote was the best of our players the other day. Same against Sunderland.

    The only one who showed energy or enthusiasm for the cause – unlike Taylor, who waddles around the pitch like a clown then gives it the ‘passionate geordie’ routine post-match.

  • 87 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    cockney

    I just don’t see why he doesn’t get that when we play high up and attack it makes us concede less and score more.

    When we sit deep we don’t look a threat and concede anyway.

  • 88 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    @sage

    whelan has tightened the purse strings since then martinez has the budget of a church mouse

  • 89 oldbobaycliffe // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    to win games you need to score goals yet some people say bring back shola.he is the luckiest footballer in the pl because no other club would have him in their squad he is pathetic lazy and useless and his brother is the same get rid of both although shola,s contract doesn,t end till next year

  • 90 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Jail

    You’ve flogged this as much as I have with Pardew.

    There can’t be anyone left now who doesn’t know you think Ashley should have backed Pardew in the summer. We get it. Honestly we really do.

    By the same token I’m going to stop bleating on about Pardew even if at the start of the season I told everyone Pardew could take us down. Well I’ll try….!

  • 91 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    @ian

    i think your views are too well balanced for this site lmao

  • 92 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    What has Ashley not backing Pardew got to do with

    Sissoko and Bigi on the right. Perrenial jonas and Tiote, Deep Cabaye, and constant hoofball

  • 93 Mark29Hungary // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    My team against WHU:

    ________Harper
    Anita, Saylor, Colo, Haidara
    ____Perch_____Sissoko
    _______Cabaye
    Ben Arfa_______Gouffran
    _______Ameobi

    or:

    ________Harper
    M’Biwa, Saylor, Colo, Anita
    _____Tioté__Cabaye
    Ben Arfa________Gouffran
    ____Cissé___Ameobi

    BUT I think this will be Pardew’s team:

    ___________Elliot
    Simpson, Saylor, Colo, Haidara
    ________Tioté, Cabaye
    Gouffran___Sissoko___Jonas
    __________Cissé

  • 94 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Sorry couldn’t do it !!!!!!

    Ian at comment 85

    Please don’t mention pardew in the same sentence as wenger.

  • 95 Mark29Hungary // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    only Cissé will be not enough… he needs a second striker to help him.

  • 96 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Simmo has to play RB.
    Perch LB. Jonas LM

    Not sure about Colo. Straight back after so long out?
    Tiote and HBA are both struggling with match fitness.
    Try Obertan for 60 then HBA for last 30 on RW.

    Midfield I don’t know … Anita and Cabaye?

    Shola super sub. Never start Shola!
    Upfront Cisse & Goufran.

    Bet Pardew doesn’t sleep much this week, his head must be spinning.

  • 97 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    comment 83 even

  • 98 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Rotonda ,
    What Im trying to put across is not just that he should have backed him him,but that Parade isn’t the crux of the problem and that Ashley far from being the saviour of our club is a parasite eating away at the very fibre of our club.

  • 99 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Rainrix..

    Ok maybe he wouldnt show as much intent than Rafa but i think Di Mateo would deffinatley be a step up not a side step.

    Also changing from Psddews tsctics to Di Mateo would probably be a better change then going to all out attack and completely chsnge there mindset which could be a bad decision.

    Id bring in Di Mateo to come in to balance the team, see how he does and if he doesnt get top half or top 6 we can change for more attacking intent in Rafa.

    U cant ask a team to completely change their way of playing, they need to be eased in to difference.

    Pardew has scarred the team thatd for sure.

  • 100 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Rotonda

    U remember what Befica coach did when we scored at Home, He brought on attackers.

    I think i know what pardew would have done

  • 101 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    @hatem

    pards head has been spinning since the summer when he found out how many new players he was getting since then we have been fighting fires and anything that can go wrong has eg the capt wanting to walk away then breaks his back doing an overhead kick etc etc

  • 102 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    wolfshead

    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/wigan-athletic-transfers.html

    It’s a little lower now but not a lot lower than when they were in charge…he had more than paul jewell.

    Basically martinez gets them passing but horribly open, get regular hammerings and have much better players than a few team above him.

  • 103 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Would this be the same Di Matteo that had WBA fighting relegation? Would this be the same Di Matteo who set the world alight as manager of MK Dons?

    Or is the Di Matteo that people are giving way too much credit for a CL victory despite the fact that they were battered in the two legs of the semi final and bar certain miracles managed to get through and then by some stroke of fluke managed to beat Bayern Munich despite being battered for 90mins in that game too.

    Or is it the same Di Matteo that made a CL winning team with 100m quid of investment look average?

    Seriously, some people can’t see the wood from the trees, I’m all for upgrading Pardew but not with yet another average manager.

  • 104 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    pardew thinks by getting last gasp result will give him cult status as the man who saved the toon

  • 105 low fell mag // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Is Di mateo not a bit of a gamble.I Tthink the chelsea interim manager would be a massive srep forward and would put the club back to being a big club in the prmiership and europe.Also well done Aston Villa ,that hasd brought them down to earth and over the moon for Sess @ his red card.Makes them sweat a bit with their Cheesey chips.No need to panic on the relegation front,Wigan are doomed .Their run in is horrific they have too many games in such a short space of time with that Fa cup final.they have something like 3 games in 6 days.They will be very very lucky to get four points.

  • 106 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Cockney @98

    “Also changing from Psddews tsctics to Di Mateo would probably be a better change then going to all out attack and completely chsnge there mindset which could be a bad decision.”

    Surely changing the mindset of the players is exactly what we want! You’re saying that we should remove a defensive minded manager and replace him with….a defensive minded manager! Despite the fact we’ve got very attack minded players?

    Makes a lot of sense, you should be ashamed of yourself :P

  • 107 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Shut up ruddy!

    Dont question my opinion!

    At the end of the day i saw smething wrong in Pardew at the start of the season.

    When did u see something wrong in him?… last week?

    Your opinion means nothing to me…

  • 108 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    @sage

    i cant argue with stats damn it :-( lol

  • 109 Ian Toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Rotonda- contrast AVB( an excellent manager) at Chelsea and know at Spurs. Don’t you think the players were influential in his demise at Chelsea.? The senior players in particular ruled the roost. You cannot just not include the players when allocating blame.
    Look at the bigger picture rather than the tabloid version! Stop behaving as if we’re already in the Championship. Please.

  • 110 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    flash your cash ashley and buy your win

  • 111 Ian Toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Now at

  • 112 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    U cant ask a group of players that have only known to defend all season to be an attacking one the next!

    I think Di Mateo would give the team balance and an actual tactical knowledge with an idea of who goes where and creative players such as marvo, benarfa, gouffran and campbell actually being played.

  • 113 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Actually cockney I can question and challenge any opinion I see fit, it’s the marvellous nature of debate, having unchallenged opinions and being force fed opinions is the cornerstone of a dictatorship, you may be a d!ck but dictator you aint ;)

    Also as Tads pointed out you’ve subtly jumped on this tide of “I saw it coming” when in reality you’re riding on the crest of someone else’s wave, and seeing how smug you are about it one would question whether you want NUFC to actually get relegated to prove a point.

    And as for my own views on Pardew, I used logic and reason, took into account certain mitigating factors, reviewed past games to come to a balanced opinion, can you say the same?

  • 114 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Cockney

    You want to know how I know that you know nothing about what you’re talking about?

  • 115 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    stop the f king bickering ffs

  • 116 low fell mag // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Could anybody tell me how long is Marvo is out for.

  • 117 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    John Tudor

    Are you new to the blog? If not, somehow I think you’re p!ssing in the wind by telling us to stop bickering.

  • 118 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Di Matteo’s league performance for Chelsea last season was worse than AVB. No way is he a step up. A marginal improvement maybe, but please god no. He was sacked from West Brom with them languishing in danger of relegation. That is exactly the sort of appointment I was wanting to avoid by sticking with Pards until the season ends.

  • 119 pawl250 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    CockneyMagpie90 –

    You coming across like you are abit of a tw@.

    “Don’t question my opinion” Oh lord, its like what Hitler said before he went on his little spree across Europe!

    Who exactly do you think you are?! This is a blog, a friendly one 70-80% of the time. Have to admit I have never really seen a comment like yours. It is so big headed. “I seen this happen at the start of the season” I mean come on! You must live a depressing negative life.

    Finishing 5th then thinking we would be slinging it for relegation a few month later, yea right! Like I said either your telling porkies, or you are depressing to even acknowledge.

    As for Pardew I don’t want him sacked until end of the season, totally agree doing it now will only cause more issues.

    I hope we win on Saturday, hoping for big Andy to come on the pitch and NUT literally, Tiote in the face! RED CARD! Then Nolan to do a naked chicken dance on his way out onto the pitch, instant RED! Come on lads, we need you even though you don’t wear the black and white stripes!!

  • 120 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    am i addressing u i think not the motorway is that way

  • 121 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    John Tudor

    The motorway is that way? What sort of attempt of a insult/witty riposte is that?

    Seems like you’re bickering with me, bit hypocritical is it not? :P

  • 122 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    do you lads honestly believe Pard’s will get the sack when we lose all 3 games, i’m 100% sure he won’t get sacked,

    and all these others managers we all have mentioned do you’s honestly think MA will bring in a new manager that wages are more than Pard’s i’m 100% certain he won’t.

    at the end of the day it’s business for MA not passion for football

  • 123 DokToon // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    good luck ed, all the best and saying a prayer at noon for you sir :)

  • 124 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Arsenal game could be the last game for Pardew and Wenger – rumour has it that he is leaving for PSG

  • 125 perchy4england // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    How can anyone literally be suggesting Willo to play on saturday?! Everyone slagged him off and Simpson but now suddenly they’re good enough for the team? Really does prove how fickle some of you lot are on here.

  • 126 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    perchy4england

    very true mate, having these 2 on means we welcome defeat

  • 127 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    hey i come on here to read news not petty blog bullying each and everyone has a right to post what they want if it upsets you do not read it i shall in future ignore everything you sprout out and no it was not aimed at you merely to state a direction

  • 128 headtheball // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    I read an articulate article by Rotonda a little while ago which was calm without rancour. Refreshing. Now the blog is back to the all familiar fingers poised handbags at ten paces insults and negativity towards those who disagree. Any wonder there is disharmony elsewhere.
    HWTL

  • 129 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    did i name you as with all my post i rarely direct my comments

  • 130 Guj NUFC // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Good luck today Ed

  • 131 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    perchy

    not fickle…just realising the new lads aren’t doing a much better job, if anything worse.

  • 132 619nufc // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    I know this is a long shot, but would 2 club members that aren’t going to the Arsenal game let me ‘borrow’ their number so I can bring my 2 non-member friends?

    It would be greatly appreciated.

  • 133 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Well I’ve never know my opinions were known to sprout but it’s good they have some life in them ;)

    Also I think of you scrolled up you’ll find that I was merely expressing that I disagreed with his opinion. The last time I checked that’s allowed on a blog. The first person who was bickering and “sprouting” rubbish was in fact cockneymagpie :D

    Boo-yah!

  • 134 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    all the best of luck ED today

  • 135 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    John

    Ok ok, you’re boring me now, sorry I even bothered.

  • 136 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    If Tiote and Jonas start next game. I’ll be very tempted to skip the game. I can’t stand watching those two play.

  • 137 perchy4england // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it shouldn’t become a personal argument on here. The only thing which bugs me when you have a discussion with someone they constantly contradict themselves! I never want to make a debate on here personal as it’s a blog about football at the end of the day.

  • 138 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    John

    Ruddy made a light hearted response to your comment, and you decided to sling an insult back at him.

    Chill out. It’s the internet, and this is a blog with pictures of grannys in their underwear all over the place – it’s hardly a serious place.

  • 139 pawl250 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    LOOK –

    Do you honestly think Wigan are going to get 5 points?! Whilst we get none?!

    I think they are already gone!

    I would like a win against West Ham to be sure, am nervous, anxious and need to really get a grip.

    West Ham – QPR – 3 or 2 points from them we will be safe for sure! Nothing is 100%, but the chance of Wigan picking up 7-8 points in 4 games is a massive ask!

    I know we have to get the points, but people seem to assume Wigan WILL get the points when they too have to get them.

    Big big ask, only time will tell but am confident we can see this season out.

  • 140 perchy4england // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Transfer

    Do you think willo and simpson should be recalled?

  • 141 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    i wonder if the players, staff and board come on here to read this blog?

  • 142 corkypants85 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    it would be suicide to play willo just because hes tall we need to play a 442 push up high west ham have no pace stick with mbiwa and collo and play in there half ball retention is going to be so important thats why id play sissoko and cabaye in the middle sissoko breaking things up id probably play gouffy up top with cisse and just tell him to close down and be a constant pest dont let tham have time or space to lump balls up to AC and i think id pick jonas just for his hussle and bussle and ben 10 just for his abilitie to make owt happen that is how i would play!

  • 143 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Pawl

    Personally I think the key game in the relegation scrap is the game in hand that Wigan have over the rest of us.

    Their game in hand is against Swansea and they already have nothing to play for, so depending on how that game goes will go a long way in deciding whether we are safe already or not.

    My opinion anyway

  • 144 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    look no responses were directed at ruddy he attacked first they could have been directed at cockneymag such children

  • 145 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    ruddy you could start an argument in an empty room :(

  • 146 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Black and White with an army lol

    yes

    i think they doo,,

  • 147 perchy4england // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Glad two of our last games are away, will take the pressure off the lads. QPR away is the big one, they have nothing to play for.

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    John

    You’re being facetious now by claiming they weren’t directed at me, at the very least they were directed at both myself and cockneymag.

    Also you need to recheck the definition of “attack”, I did not attack anyone so shall we stick to the facts here please?

  • 149 pawl250 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Ruddy –

    Fair view on the situation. I am sure I would be sitting alot less anxious had it been 5 points ahead 3 games remaining for Wigan.

    I think this weekend will reveal the remaining fighters, should Wigan lose, and others win it almost certainly condemns them to relegation. However, if its reversed atleast we still have a 2 point gap, it wont do much for my health but its points in the bag!

    Hope we can grab a win at West Ham and calm my stomach down, I feel twisted inside.

    Stupid really!

  • 150 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Catchy

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

    Also, at worst it’s light ribbing with people who have no sense of humour ;)

  • 151 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    if the players dont want to play for him, it dosnt matter what 11 he puts out, it will be the same outcome

    IMO

    IF this is how they feel , and have expressed there feelings to him, then, the guy is asking for trouble,,

    one thing i like about ruud boy, was he quit when he new he had lost the players

  • 152 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    pawl250

    mate you got to understand that wigan have been in this situation many many times before and they crave these type of situation and they manage to escape with ease, but for the mighty toon they seem to panic alot when in this situation and also i watched a few Wigan games and they are lucky not to get wins especially against Tottenham at second half

  • 153 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    anyhows light ribbing hows this ruddy supported sland last night

  • 154 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    If the players don’t want to play for Pardew fair enough they should tell that to Ashley.How ever they are paid to do a job and owe it to the supporters to give 110% every game and I expect a performance at the hammers

  • 155 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    mine was light ribbing to :P

    i dont think we are that different, regardless :)

  • 156 corkypants85 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    oh and another thing that does my head in is how deep cisse has to come to pick the ball up he should be recieving passes in and around the box not on the bloody halfway line with sissoko his only option sending sissoko on another hopeless 30 yard rampage which endd up with us loosing the ball play the game in there half and play tighter together

  • 157 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    John

    I think you’ll find I did exactly the opposite.

    However, I don’t see that as even good light ribbing, need to give it some work there hombre.

    Catchy

    Is that what you’ve been doing all this time? Man you had me going! Oh…my…God, are we one and the same!?!

    NOOOOOOOOO :P

  • 158 pawl250 // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Black and White with …..

    I understand the concern, but you could argue Wigan were LUCKY against us, 2 handballs, a bad referee decision against Mcmanaman, who by the way has been outstanding since.

    Arguably would have lost that game had the correct decisions been made. It would have also changed the recent form.

    I feel Wigan will struggle with match congestion.

    Swansea, Man City and Arsenal within a week, its arguably the teams to have you running to get the ball the most. They should be tired going into final day of the season.

    It would require CL form to stay in the PL, 2-3 wins in 4 games!

    Its a massive ask, even for a top 4 side! Never mind Wigan!

  • 159 valle // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Will some of the people who keep suggesting Di Matteo please describe to me in detail why he would be a good long term manager for Newcastle? He wins a cup with the biggest potion of luck world football have ever seen (How many shot on goal did they have compared to Barca again?) And suddenly people think he is the real deal… Well, Steve McClaren won a cup as well and so did McLeish, so lets get them guys in huh?.

  • 160 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    corkypants85

    mate having cisse come deep to get the ball is probably his second main threat ( first to score ) it brings players into play but it’s obvious Pardew doesn’t know how to set it up.

  • 161 lesh // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    What’s the point of even considering spending money if Mr Pardew’s still in charge next season? He may have been party to the purchase of some talent but what’s clear is that he’s unable to get the best out of it. What’s the point of buying players just to play them out of position?

    As far as the use of French is concerned, I thought that English was the preferred language in the dressing room and yes there will be difficulties but I thought we had a French/ English translator on board to help understanding?

    Now on a more practical note and completely off thread, I have both McAfee and Firefox installed on my laptop, but still these bally annoying ads popping up. I understand everyone’s frustration at them but it seems one just has to click on ‘read’, log in, or try to post a comment. I don’t want IBT or local slags….. can anyone offer any constructive suggestions or is the problem with this site only?

  • 162 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    catchy

    If the board read the blog, they’d know that they need to make changes.

    If the manager read the blog, he’d know that if he just came out and accepted responsibility himself then he’d win over a lot of people – unfortunately that’s never happened, so I doubt he does.

    If the players read the blog, then they either think they’re terrible, or they think they’re world class – since those are the only categories players get stuck in on here ;)

  • 163 Twatter // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Willo worked well enough with Coloccini, certainly better than Taylor and M’biwa, arguably better than Taylor and Coloccini.

    I just enjoy those who slagged him off so mercilessly before we changed him now having to admit he wasn’t that bad afterall.

  • 164 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    perchy

    I think simmo should, we need a right back with debuchy out and he looked much better when he played recently.

    Willo i don’t think should be, rather have taylor and colo, a proven partnership over this and last season when together. They understand each other and saylor is so much calmer and better when colo is next to him.

  • 165 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    pawl250

    very true mate, don’t get me wrong mate i was just pointing out that Wigan thrive on these situations and basically have fully adapted to it.

    in my opinion i hope Wigan do go down with the way they played against us it was shocking

  • 166 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Ruddy…

    Youre a jelous man, its so sad.

  • 167 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Lesh

    Google chrome with the 2 adblockers Adblocker and adblocker plus keeps all ads off the site, simples

  • 168 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Ive had my own opinion on Pardew from day one, dont be jelous it was the right one

  • 169 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Cockney

    Jealous of what exactly? When Pardew leaves what will you have to cling on to. You’ll have nothing to take credit for then, how will you survive?

  • 170 corkypants85 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    black and white

    yeah but its pointless him coming that deep when theres only sissoko going past cisse there should be players like the two wingers going past him aswell as just moussa if thats how pards wanna play on the break if you watched villa last night we are just so static compared!

  • 171 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Ohh right, from day one?

    So on day one you were aware of every single one of his flaws and that he wouldn’t be a good manager for Newcastle United and that he’d have us fighting relegation even before he had played a game?

    Don’t be delusional.

  • 172 pawl250 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    For the West Ham game I would go –

    ———————- Elliot ————————
    Mbiwa — STaylor — Coloccini — Haidara
    —————————————————–
    ——- Sissoko — Anita — Cabaye ——–
    —————————————————–
    Ben Arfa ——— Cisse ———- Gouffran

    Your defence should stay as a back four, offering limited forward runs. Height for set peices included in having 3 centre backs playing. I would also make sure Anita stays to an Alonso role, he is a good passer of the ball and should thrive in that role. Make himself available, the “get out” if we run into trouble. He would also be told to not leave the half way line Centre Circle, his licence to roam, revoked! He is our primary defence to pressure oncoming traffic, to hold the play him for reinforcements.

    It was a job Tiote did well for 2 years, and since he scored a goal now thinks he is Pele.

    Cabaye, would be yanked at half time if he doesnt show more commitment to the cause.

    6 French players, as game goes on REDUCE it! Perch, Tiote to tighten things up or CAMPBELL to introduce some pace into the front line.

    We’ll see how things go but I think attack is our best defence, we dont want to be licking our wounds 10 minutes into the game allowing West Ham to push us back!

  • 173 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    The man we need in charge is Gus Poyet

  • 174 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    twatter

    i think if we played attacking football then mbiwa and colo would be a better partnership, the way we play now we need battlers in there.

    hopefully under a new manager he will get them in a system where mbiwa will do well, but for now he hasn’t settled quickly and under way too much pressure, he’s only a kid as well.

  • 175 thai-mag // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    I’ve had a good look at ours, villas and wigans remaining fixtures and I think we are as good as down, I just cant see us getting the points we need

  • 176 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    thai

    how can you not see us getting a point against qpr? they offer nothing at all.

  • 177 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Of me being right at a time when u were praising this idiot!

    If you go up to our convo, u and everyone else will find u started it with ur smarmy comments. I retaliated and told u to shut up and i look like the bad guy!

    Take your jelousy somewhere else, its obvious u look like shit, have no life are in desperate need of friends.

  • 178 Douglas // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Ed,

    just registered so I could wish you all the best.

    Signings in the summer, assuming we stay up? To include:
    Caroll
    Carrick
    Foster
    Need to get more Geordies in the spine of the club.

  • 179 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Nimo,
    No he isn’t

  • 180 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Start of this season = day one.

    Your a loser mate, get over your self.

  • 181 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Cockney

    It is patently clear that you cannot express yourself in an respectful fashion, have trouble venting your emotions in a healthy adult way, and unsurprisingly you look like the bad guy because you are being delusional, arrogant and insulting.

    You do know that regardless of the validity of our opinions, it is the way we express them that determines how we are received by our peers.

    As for your litany of insults, I think I’m quite handsome, have a richly rewarding life, and a friend group I wouldn’t swap for anything.

    Whereas you just seem petty and bitter.

  • 182 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    @transfer
    We don’t exactly offer much ourselves.If we don’t start with a quick tempo generally we don’t ever get started

  • 183 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Cockney,
    Yeah, you do look like the bad guy as you were the one who told him to shut up and not to contradict your opinion. This is a blog, if you make a comment then you have to be prepared for people to disagree. You can then either respond or not, but for your response, you look like a bit of a dick.

  • 184 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Who would you have Lilongwe

  • 185 Munster Mag // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Ian I think you were one of many who was badly duped by Pardew. You had lots of confidence in him originally…remember the chatrs we had about 442 / 433 etc . The guy is a plum. I was fooled for a while too , up until the kids stuck 2 fingers up at him v Brighton.

  • 186 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Munster

    I think many people lost their faith in him at different times, many lost it early last season when they saw how we lost to some ridiculous teams, even though we finished 5th, some lost their faith when he was showing signs of cracking with the Ba/Cisse fiasco, some lost it when they saw the honeymoon period after the French players signed had ended.

    For me the final straw was the Sunderland game, while I’d been questioning internally for a while my mind was made up after that game.

    So, while I’d admit to have been somewhat duped, I don’t buy into the approach that those of us who defended Pardew should be ashamed of ourselves.

  • 187 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    He didnt disagree in a respectful manner…

    Calling me out for being wrong when he doesnt have a clue how Di mateo would be at this club.

    And then trying to take the piss out of me at the same time.

    U want me to have respect???

    Pfftt

  • 188 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Nimo,
    Honestly, I’m not entirely sure which is why I was willing to wait till the end of the season prior to the Liverpool game. I’ve argued this with someone before though, and I don’t see why people think that he is a step up. He has acheived less than Pardew did in the early stages of his managerial career. He gets them playing on the ground, but they on’t look that impressive. He has a talented squad, and really they should be certainties for the play offs if he is to be considered as having any potential.

    I also think he makes some very ill advised comments, his comments on the 2 Suarez incidents were frankly embarrassing. To paraphrase the racism, Poyet said England should adapt to accept Suarez. Errrrr…..No.

    I’d like someone who has won something though, preferably in a European league but not necessarily one of the big leagues, just a proven record. With a good balanced outlook on the game, ie. a healthy blend of tiki taka and a more direct approach.

  • 189 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    9 points from our remaining 3 games.

    Finish 3rd next season – Ben Arfa wins ballon d’or, Pardew wins the double manager award (again)

    Champions league semis year after that, lose to Munich on penalties.

    Heard it here first.

  • 190 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    I lost my patients with pardew at the start of this season…. like many others with a sense of footballing knowledge.

    It took u til sunderland?

    WOW.

  • 191 marc // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    hi all

    i have just join this blog but have been reading it for about 2 years and felt its time i had my view listened too also! first i would like to thank everyone who comments as i love to read your views and arguments they keep me hooked even tho i am ment to be working (what they dont know wont hurt lol)

    right how many people agree with me when i say that MARV is clearly our best player ( including ben arfa) and is more creative than Cab’s ALSO he is so under rated by pardew this guy can seriously play, really tidy little player he hardly gives the ball away unlike benny and is much better at set plays than Cab’s he has setup papiss with some great passes in open play we need him playing these last games!!! FACT

  • 192 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    You’re right, I have no idea how Di Matteo would be at this club in exactly the same way that you had no idea how Pardew would be at this club after he signed.

    So therefore, any claims that you were right about Pardew all along are now null and void on the basis of your own words.

    You’ve just undone yourself there lad ;)

  • 193 cjtoon // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Hi all, I would like to think although saturday was one of the worst performances I think i have ever seen from a newcastle team, its not as bad as it seems. We lost to sunderland from three really well taken finishes and well against liverpool we played to their strengths so they tore us apart. I must admit seeing your team retain posession not even looking to get forwards just so we dont give the opposition the ball back and let in more goals is probably the most ebarassed i have ever been as a newcastle fan.

    Although im concerned Andy Carroll and Loic Remy now hold a lot of our fate in their feet i still think we will stay up. Its funny how of all the teams still involved in the relegation scrap we are the only one that have caused mass hysteria with the media.

    For anybody who was around last week when i mentioned the mega article/review/thoughts i was writing; i am now finished and if anybody is interested in a substantial read i can e-mail it to them.

  • 194 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    For goodness sake is it so hard to spell properly!?

  • 195 thai-mag // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    transfer sage
    because all the other teams are going for wins and we are going for draws, with our poor defenders it just cant work, no matter how many hours pardew puts in with them

  • 196 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    First things first, good luck Ed.

    Secondly, who is going to be the substitute teacher in Eds absence? We need some order.

    TDS…”Chill out. It’s the internet, and this is a blog with pictures of grannys in their underwear all over the place – it’s hardly a serious place.” – Brilliant.

    So then, what’s new?

  • 197 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Ibiza

    Thank God you’re here, the mean kids are picking on me :(

  • 198 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    i questioned him at the man u game going gung ho at old trafford the night before he must have dreamt he was pep in charge of barca

  • 199 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    What?

    I didnt call for Pardew and didnt wat him in the first place.

    At first there wasnt any signs of him getting things wrong and the team were doing well so i supported him like many. I must say, a massive amount of luck played its part with Cisse coming in and having no injuries.

    At the start of this season I wanted him out as hes made mistake after mistake and look where we are now?… in a relegation scrap.

    I knew exactly what pardew would be like…

    You on the other hand, didnt.

  • 200 the bloody geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    good luck Ed….and godspeed…oh do take care…and do write about ‘if we do get relegated’…could be the most interesting thing to read right now…

  • 201 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    I just like the fact he plays it on the ground he had Leeds playing decent football and has Brighton doing the same. I wouldn’t mind Martinez but would cost a fortune to buy out of his contract. I feel anyone with any real pedigree wouldn’t want the job as its a bit of a poisoned challace who after managing us in recent years has gone onto bigger n better things

  • 202 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Wheres these pictures of Grannies? Awesome…. :)

    Morning an Afternoon to ye all… Anyone know what the odds on us getting a win at Wes’AAAAMMMMM??

    I’m looking to up the ante on watching the game rather than concentrating on Sissoko’s bad passing and control and Cisse being offside…

  • 203 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    fingers crossed Ed

    Do we really think Ashley will invest big in the summer if we still have Pardew in charge?.
    Having time to think about it Benitez would be a good choice of manager he knows the Prem and could easily work with the squad we have now

  • 204 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Cockney

    Do you see me as some sort of threat? Why does it mean so much to you to be right, and for me to be wrong? I simply gave him more time, I didn’t say he was a tactical genius, I didn’t say he was the best manager for the club, I simply took into account the mitigating factors (that means other factors) that could have contributed to us being where we are.

    Just because now I have lost patience with Pardew doesn’t make you any more correct, simply means you arrived at the conclusion before I did. I could argue that you rashly arrived at the conclusion whereas I used reason and logic but I wouldn’t be that arrogant ;)

  • 205 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Ruddy…Bit of a dilemma. I can only help if you swear your allegiance to Pardew ;)

  • 206 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    thai

    Fair enough with that. I just think that if we play like we did at west brom first half, take our chances (which we didn’t that day), then even our negative 2nd half wouldn’t cost us.

  • 207 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    We’ve been awful since the start of the season. I’ve explained multiple times on how Pardew is clueless as a manager and I projected the fact that he is not the right man for us on numerous occasions here but my concerns were met by ridicule and outrage by most of you. The signs were all there but you refused to believe them.

    The only reason we find ourselves in such a predicament is because you are all idiots. Newcastle fans are the dumbest fans on earth. You were all content and kept believing in the manager even though he was constantly getting out-classed by every manager he faced this season. But you kept believing because you lack the ambition and the footballing knowledge.

    You are all responsible for this. So f**k you all.

  • 208 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Woah Ashton dude…. Are you included in that? Jeez… talk about hurtful :)

  • 209 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Nimo,
    A definite no to Martinez as well. I get that they play the ball on the floor and stuff, but they don’t do well, ever. And the argument about the quality of players doesn’t hold water, as they have had some good players and still only just staved off the drop. The fact he can’t get a team winning games until the end of the season also shows he lacks motivational skills.

    I understand no manager with a proven pedigree, that is why I would look outside of the top countries leagues, and look for someone who has built success in a smaller European country (in footballing terms) and played the game in a entertaining manner. Yes, I agree it is a gamble, but any appointment is a gamble. We need to do as much research into this as we do into recruitment.

  • 210 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Ruddy…Wouldn’t you be that arrogant? Sorry, was I meant to be helping?

    Cockney…My keyboard has a question for you. Are all keyboards homosexuals?

  • 211 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Ashton

    ‘We’ couldn’t have done anything. Ashley was never going to sack Pardew this year.

  • 212 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    im thinking ash is a mackem or he has come on for a light troll :-)

  • 213 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    “The only reason we find ourselves in such a predicament is because you are all idiots.”

    Ashton…So does that mean Pardew isn’t actually to blame for anything?

  • 214 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Ibiza

    I never expect you to help, I’m a big boy I can handle them myself ;)

    Seriously, it is incredibly ironic that those who called me out for being arrogant are the same people overdosing on sumggery.

    Curious.

  • 215 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    wolfshead…Wor Ashton has some anger issues. This has crept up in the past. We try to help him though.

    Ashton…Go to your happy place. Deep breaths in and out, that a boy.

  • 216 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    You just said I didnt have a clue how Pardew would be like, didnt you?…

    As it turns out I have known what he would be like, so what your saying doesnt make sense.

    You started this today with your smarmy jelous comments, stop trying to make out im a c**t!

  • 217 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    I knew it was the fans fault all along from day 1, no one listened and now you’re all jumping ship. Bow before my superiority! :)

  • 218 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    lol ibiza

  • 219 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Ibiza…

    I have a question for you…

    Do you have a life?

  • 220 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    I knew it was going to rain today!

    I am the weather GOD!!!!! :D

  • 221 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Ruddy…It does all stink a bit. People seem more interested in trying to prove they were right first, as if that makes things better?

    Munster…You mentioned toonbano recently. To be fair to him, his points are being proved rather spot on. My main issue was always the way in which he represented his opinions. So much hatred and anger made it hard to take him seriously.

  • 222 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Jamiemac

    That’s just an excuse. Had the fans rightfully blasted Pardew as they do now he wouldn’t have lasted.

  • 223 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Cockney

    Are you really 22? I only ask because I am 22 but you seem to have the mental development of a 5 year old.

  • 224 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Ashton

    The fans weren’t going to get on his back given the fact that he wasn’t backed by the board and we were suffering serious injuries.

    Our fans back the manager, and are willing to give time to a manager who seemed like he was a victim of circumstance.

    Now it’s a different story, so to compare January with now is completely wrong in my view.

  • 225 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Ney….I do. Now back to my keyboard, can you help out, it’s all confused?

  • 226 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Ashton

    I think after the heroics of last season most people (myself included) were willing to give him a chance.

  • 227 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Lol, lots of new names popping up the last few weeks explaining how they all knew Pardew was bad since the day Ossie Ardiles left. You lot are obviously football geniuses. And I’m glad you are all so proud and happy we are going down.

    Catchy/Beattie/Rotonda etc you have all been around a while banging the drum, so I don’t include you in this group.

    Ashton,
    Fair play, if you have said it since day 1, although I seem to remember the place being relatively up beat after we beat Spurs… All the blogs fault we are going down? So maybe if we keep Pardew but close the blog before the last three games we will stay up.

  • 228 richyg01 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    My line up for West Ham…

    __________Harper
    Simmo_Saylor_Collo_Haidara

    BenArfa_Cabaye_Tiote_Sissoko

    _________Cisse_Gouffran

    Bench:
    Elliot, Mapou, Perch, Anita, Jonas, Campbell, Shola

    I DO NOT Rate Elliot at all – sure he can make some great saves at times, but then he can also mess up the most simple saves.

    I think Mapou is either feeling out of his depth or is tired of late.

    Jonas is rather inconsistent and hasn’t produced a decent cross in a while.

    HBA needs to start, so he is not coming on when we are already in the back foot a-la Liverpoo.

    We CANNOT win a game playing 4-5-1.

  • 229 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Ibizatoon

    The only reason Pardew is still in charge is because you kept giving him chances and believed his excuses week after week. Pardew is an idiot but he is still our manager because our fans lack ambition and are too loyal and stupid.

  • 230 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    For all those that are claiming Pardew’s team can’t play nice football I recommend you watch the full match highlights of last season vs West Brom when we won 3-1.

  • 231 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Ashton

    Do you expect anyone to take you seriously if you keep insulting them?

    Where is the respect? Yes I may call people out, maybe even seem a bit smarmy at times but at no point do I insult anyone.

    Some people just don’t seem to get that although it is words on a screen there are still people behind the screens who deserve to be respected.

  • 232 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Ashton…Me or everyone who supported him?

    Did you send of a letter to Sports Direct complaining? I’ve heard it’s a good way to make your voice heard.

    Lacking ambition, too loyal and stupid? Basically I’m a dog. Been called worse I guess :)

  • 233 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    @cockneymagpie90
    Chill out bud it really isn`t worth it.we all share the toon as a big part in all our lives and we are all hurting now weather you were pro or anti Pardew.

  • 234 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Ibiza…

    If u go back to what i said the other day i said ‘PEOPLE SUPPORTING PARDEW SHOULD BE ASHAMED’ (meaning if you are supporting him still after we just lost 2 games at st james that went down in the record books, you should be ashamed and rightly so).

    But you took this out of context and claimed i was aiming it towrds people that have been supporting him all season.

    I actually said you have been foolish to support him all this season because look at what hes done for us?

    If relegagion scraps were your ambition this season i apologise.

  • 235 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Ashton

    If you need to hop on the internet and insult people intelligence to make yourself feel superior, then that’s a shame. Otherwise, try engaging with others like a normal human being, and not a smug arse, chuffed at yourself for getting something right.

    I assume you’ve been doing plenty to have Pardew removed, have you? Or have you just been sat on the internet complaining?

  • 236 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    The thing I think has annoyed me is last year pardew stumbled across our best formation yes we’ve had injuries but rather than swap the injures player for a like for like swap he’s changes the formation. Against Swansea we was playing a. Attacking 4-3-3 with a focus on the counter a quick break away every time we attacked it worked perfect. Ba throws his dummy out as doesn’t want to be out wide pardew accommodates his wishes pushing cisse out wide rather than picking one o the other and having Marv on the wing Too many times its square pegs in round holes
    He insists on sticking with players out of form.
    Collo early in season(might not of had much choice here as no back up. But this should of been addressed much earlier)
    Gutti could of tried dropping n letting Marv /sammy
    Tiote been awful all year when bigi Anita perch all been better
    If ferguson sees van Persie or Rooney or whoever is out of form they get dropped, fair enough they have strength n depth but if your playing even if your playing poor where’s the incentive to improve
    We set up every game on the defensive also which riles me lately

    I know pards has had a rough time with injuries/ ba wanting to leave and other things not going the way but this happens in football it’s your job as manager to deal with it

  • 237 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Anyone see Collo new beard? Meh… Just like his performances this year…

    I have a new bit of gossip – supposedly and I say supposedly… Nolan and Carroll will be back with us next season… double swoop… done deal by July 7th…

  • 238 ToonMatt // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Wheres the link saying Ashley will spend big? There isn’t one because he won’t we are in this mess because everything he does he does on the cheap, cheap manager, cheap transfer fees etc, If we go down he will sell off all the players and make a tidy profit like he always does, we are in this position because of him and his pathetic transfer policy oh and his cheap mediocre manager who is clueless!!!

  • 239 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Has anyone ever seen an interview with BA about his time at Newcastle? Or anything about Pardew? What Tevez said was scathing… so was interested to see what others thought of him… WE ALL KNOW HOW WE FEEL :)

  • 240 DokToon // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    “i knew before the end of the season, you didnt ruddy, blahblahbla”…

    “ruddy, youre a dummy,” as the twit sits behind his computer, feeling tough…

    i see the resident A$$bag is back at it… jesus, stfu… no one is interested in your fcuking opinion, nor have we ever been…

    ibiza, ruddy, and ich and the rest, gmorning lads…

  • 241 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Ashton,
    You are right, fan pressure has led to Mike Ashley doing everything we want hasn’t it. He has always buckled and gone against his own thoughts when we have got angry and shouted.

  • 242 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    @ichrisho
    No way would nolan comeback

  • 243 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    But even before the injuries we were crap. And we got tactically dominated in every game. Even at the last three games of last season. He decided to change our 433 formation to 442 because of a single selfish player that wasn’t happy with playing in 433. He sacrificed the whole team just to make one player happy and it cost us the 4th spot. At the start of this season we were all over the place which is not acceptable but the fans never criticized him and were only willing to give him undeserved chances over and over again.

  • 244 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Lilo…

    Them 3 u mentioned would tell i was actually infact wanting pardew out at the start of the season.

    They were like my only friends as people like youself and many others liked to jump down my throat everytime i expressed my opinion….

    Give me a lil while il find a link…

  • 245 DokToon // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    twit @215…

    just because you have the word “c**k” in your name, doenst mean you have one..

    get off ibiza, hes prob the most levelheaded one here, you twit…

  • 246 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    ichrisho…. His beard? Patchy and lacking character? Just guessing i haven’t seen it.

    Also go away with that there itk sh!t, we dont take to kindly to your kind round ere! :)

    Seriously i’d love nolan back, would be much better in our team than tiote and perch this season.

  • 247 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    G’morning DOK … How are thee? Its a rambler here and a rambling there with the blog… ED has dismissed himself for some treatment and we are gonna be on the page for a good while I’d say… :)

  • 248 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    ToonDownSouth

    why do you think its been such a choppy season,

    pardew has tried evry one of our tactics, in everone of the matches this season,,

    he gives all a few mins

    ruddy,,

    just want the team to do well,

    we all come from different walks of life, but at the end of the day we all have a passion for newcastle,and long may it continue

  • 249 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Ashton…

    Spot on mate.

  • 250 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Cockney…Then I should be ashamed by your reckoning. I still do support Pardew to some extent, but not indefinitely.

    For me, there is a bigger problem. It would seem the owner still backs him, surely that’s our biggest issue?

    I guess that leads on to why haven’t I written a letter….

    Anyway, sarcasm aside, I do apologise as I may well have taken what you said out of context, I do still maintain that you seem more interested in having people apologise to you for thinking you were wrong, as if that would make anything better.

    Clearly no one who supported Pardew wanted or expected a relegation scrap. . You clearly see yourself as having a superior knowledge of football and that’s fine.

    Instead of trying to show people up, which is only going to make them retaliate, why don’t you continue educating. All your doing is pushing people further away.

    Lastly, if you have knowledge and reason on your side, why the need to make pathetic and outdated digs at people?

    I’m all for drawing a line and moving forward, how about you?

  • 251 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    DokToon

    I’m guessing it’s morning over there in Texas lad, never was good with these time differences! haha Good afternoon from N Ireland, but good morning over there to you.

    It’s sad how many people are taking such satisfaction over the dismal position our great club finds itself in.

    For those who truly love the club there are no winners in this situation, those who are saying “I told you so” are showing themselves up for what they are, arrogant, smug, with no real sense of love or affinity to our club, because if they did, they wouldn’t take such joy in being “right”, I use that ironically because most of these people offered no solid opinion to back up their distaste for Pardew, merely empty vitriol and rhetoric.

  • 252 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    @daz – I dont know he may be convinced to come back up – he never wanted to leave in the 1st place… sigh… I’m being ridiculous arent i? :)

    @R-Dawggg – Classic… Patchy and lacking character… :) What does ITK mean by the by?

  • 253 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Ichriso I spoke to Ben arfa outside st James after the stoke game and he was saying how much he thought of pardew and how he was the best manager he had played under but things had just picked up then n be benny been in France most the season obviously

  • 254 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    trust me,, it is anoying me to,, it should not have taken them for us to get beat by sunderland for them to ( lose term) switch sides
    it didnt just happen in one day, its been a long hard road to where we are right now

  • 255 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    nimo

    I agree with you there. I think if between August and January Pardew had stuck with the 4-3-3 of:
    Ben10-Cisse-Ba
    then things would be a whole lot different. It’s a shame Pardew gave in to Ba’s demands and he still ended up leaving us.

    Hindsight is wonderful

  • 256 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Ibiza’s right – Lets all not fall out with each other… we all love the club and we all know that NOT one of us can change who is in charge…. at no top level club is that possible… Just all take a breath and think about Blackburn!!!! Jeez – we could be those guys run by Chicken Farmers… :)

  • 257 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Cockney,
    I’m not talking about today, or yourself in that. There have been lots of new people recently claiming that.

  • 258 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Ibizatoon

    “Clearly no one who supported Pardew wanted or expected a relegation scrap”

    i have to ask,, why not,

    he had form for this ? 23 match without winning a game, did this not happen at west ham ?

    history has a nasty habbit of repeating itself

  • 259 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    @Nimo – Interesting… I am assured he is careful what he says.. but I would say, wouldnt you, that his opinion might be a bit less of him now… How he didnt play him against Liverpool I’ll never know… The guy is dying to do well here… I’d say, and I hate to say it, if you wanted a chat with him next year – you might need to do it on Anfield Road… :(

  • 260 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Ichrisho…. ITK = in the know. Someone who divulges transfer rumours and such onto open forums or someone who claims to be close to the club. Universally hated by the whole of the blogsphere – sage and torq ;)

  • 261 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Basicallly Pardew can get us playing good stuff, we could easily win our last 3 as well as lose them.

    But he isn’t consistent, think we will survive but he isn’t good enough to keep it up over a season.

  • 262 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    ToonDownSouth

    You are the biggest Pardew nuthugger around here so you are the dumbest. You also cut grass for a living you loser.

    Do you still think we should stick with Pardew because “hurr durrr he won the best manager award last year”??

  • 263 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    @ichrisho
    Just wishful thinking mate i think,but we do need a player of his type who can get into the box.
    We have the players just not the right man to manage them

  • 264 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Morning Dok…How be thee? See post 245…I suggest a line be drawn…consider it a fence if you like :)

  • 265 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Catchy we didnt expect to be in a relegation fight probably because we finished 5th last year….?

  • 266 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    That was meant to be minus sage and torq but it came off as a hyphen. Oh dear i’ll be dead in the morning :)

  • 267 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    hi rainrix

  • 268 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    il be very polite and say that if all of you lot that was behind the manager, watching it fall apart joined us , this might never of happened,

    i could never stand by and watch a friend get hurt, i would always try my best to try and help, so i have to ask if you where a real supporter, why LET it happen,,

  • 269 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    To be honest, a mate suggested this to me the other day, and I think he could be spot on with his thoughts. Normally, any owner would have binned the manager following our recent results, but ours hasn’t. He put it down to the “break clauses” in Pardews contract. He said that with Pardews contract there is rumoured to be a break clause IF we finish below a certain position. But, if Pardew leaves before the season ends then Ashley has to pay the full contract up instead of 1 year.

    To me, this makes sense, Ashley is gambling that we have just enough about us to survive/that others don’t have what is required to survive.

  • 270 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Sage…. If you only read 255 i suggest you read 261. Honest mistake i swear :)

  • 271 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Catchy

    I happen to think Pardew has taken us as far as he’s going to be able to and I want to see him moved on, but I am finding myself having to justify the fact that it has taken me until now to do that.

    People have differing perspectives and differing levels of patience and tolerance, perhaps some are more willing to overlook tactical failings if they see other factors that may contribute to a bad season, it doesn’t mean we are stupid, ignorant or any less intelligent than anyone who wanted Pardew out a year ago.

    I happen to think that you probably do love the club, which is great, so jumping off the whole “I told you so” would make it much easier for people to engage with you.

    It would make it much easier if we accepted that Pardew probably isn’t who we need right now, those who called it early either had good foresight or were lucky, either way does it really matter given how dreadfully close to relegation we are?

    As for demanding anyone apologise to you or anyone else for that matter, it simply won’t happen because petty vendettas and personal agendas count for nothing when the safety of the club is in jeopardy.

    Perhaps in time you will be vindicated, perhaps you feel vindicated right now, but given the position of the club, all I would ask is that you and your cohorts show a little humility and class.

  • 272 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    @Transfer
    We need to play in a way like we did at manure to get anything from our last 3 and if we do The Hammers and Qpr wouldn`t be able to handle us

  • 273 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Ashton…Happy place, slow and steady breathing, failing that, just hold your breath a real long time.

    ichrisho…Easy now, “Ibiza’s right”, that can’t be right :)

    Catchy…Tricky tricky. My point, as I’m sure you are aware, is that we may well have been wrong, but clearly it’s not what we expected this season.

    I’ve looked at Pardews CV before and it seems that he’s never really been given a chance to turn it around when the going gets tough. That may well be his own fault, but it also may well be down to no one giving him that chance. Are you suggesting that managers don’t have a bad season? This has been my opinion all along, even before the situation got really bad (I say really bad as no doubt people will claim it’s been bad all along).

  • 274 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    i have always said , last year , we had so much luck,

    player wise, i thought we were good enough, as in spells we looked amazing,

    but of the top of my head, i carnt remember a great game of football
    we beat man u 3 – 0 long ball game,, very happy, but poor football

    stoke, was our best game,, and lets face it ,, ITS STOKE,

    chelsea, they batterd us, but cisse scorred 2 unreal goals,

    happy with results, dissapointed with the football,

    so the signs where there

  • 275 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Oh OK Rainrix – I shall take that… it was only a method of distracting the lads from ripping each other apart over Pardew… I shall take heed of that and also dont worry this blog page will be packed and SAGE and TORQ will never know you think they are hated :)

    @Daz – Youre right, I think he generally has lost most of the players… I do think that the “bedding in” time has not been enough… in fairness to the old-jaw-jobber Pardew prob would have got them playing OK if he had them in July…

  • 276 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    nimo 231

    I agree 100% on what you said about last season. Pardew was played by Ba like an absolute fool.

  • 277 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    @Ibizatoon
    What we have experienced with pardew is probably why he was never given a chance to try and turn things around

  • 278 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Sage – I didnt say anything by the way :) Its all on Rainrix… :) Just like its all on Pardew… :)

  • 279 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Ichrisho….. 261 261 261 261 :)

    Also why distract them this is brilliant reading. Some men just want to watch the world burn i guess ;)

  • 280 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    You keep saying i want an apology…

    You wernt the one being c*t towrds my opinion back in the day so from you, i do not wish to here one.

    Although there were some people who loved to jump down my throat, and wouldnt mind one from them, but j know that wouldnt happen.

    Im sorry for calling you a homo keyboard basher.

    My passion for this club is as much as you my friend and i just get frustrated because i have been patient the whole of this season, i really have!

    Today, if u read the convos^… I was fine before ruddy came in and fired his smarmy commnts my way in a disresptful manner.

    People that do that kind of thing i havent got time for, neither make time, so i sound immature when i say ‘shut up!’… but thats how i really feel.

  • 281 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    You keep saying i want an apology…

    You wernt the one being c*** towrds my opinion back in the day so from you, i do not wish to here one.

    Although there were some people who loved to jump down my throat, and wouldnt mind one from them, but j know that wouldnt happen.

    Im sorry for calling you a homo keyboard basher.

    My passion for this club is as much as you my friend and i just get frustrated because i have been patient the whole of this season, i really have!

    Today, if u read the convos^… I was fine before ruddy came in and fired his smarmy commnts my way in a disresptful manner.

    People that do that kind of thing i havent got time for, neither make time, so i sound immature when i say ‘shut up!’… but thats how i really feel.

  • 282 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    @ichrisho
    I don`t know mate Pardew`s style just isn`t suited to the type of players we have brought in.I think if we did get Benitez in as manager he could do a good job with what we have and he still has something to prove to the chelsea

  • 283 Ibiza's Right (Formerly ichrisho) // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Ibiza… It has a nice ring to it…. :)

  • 284 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    catchy

    I respect the fact you’ve been against Pardew all along that’s fine. But I feel it would have been extremely harsh not to give him at least another season. We’ve only been back in the prem 3 years now so to get 5th was amazing. I honestly feel this year we’ve had terrible luck with injuries considering the size of our squad (not Pardew’s fault)

    On the other hand I am getting quite sick and tired of Pardew’s interviews, he tends to talk a lot of cr*p. If we were to stay up and reinforce in the summer I feel he should be given until December and if we’re above 12th then let him stay, any lower then it would be time to go.

  • 285 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    daztoon….Probably or maybe? Not trying to be difficult, honestly I’m not.

  • 286 lesh // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    Thanks for the Google Chrome tip ruddy…. Got to say I don’t like the way Google’s collecting data on users though that’s by the way.

    Talk about sod’s law, I try to a control/c copy of your name to post my thanks and what do I get……. yup IBT and try to clear it and I’m logged out of the site. Try to log in and…….. $*@^%*!!!

  • 287 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    @Ibizatoon
    Are you still on the fence or is the naughty step now

  • 288 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Catchy@263…

    Good point.

  • 289 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Cockney

    I disagreed with your opinion, not disrespectfully at all. Copy and paste the parts of the comment that you deemed disrespectful.

    It’s hypocritical of you to call anyone disrespectful by the way as you show nothing but utter disdain for anyone who disagrees with you.

    Take a good hard look at yourself, nothing but an arrogant immature homophobe, so if you’ve no time for me that fantastic, I’d be very worried if you saw me as someone who shared a common interest as you’re vile.

  • 290 Ashton // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    There are actually people who still want to give Pardew another chance till December at least??

    This is getting really funny.

  • 291 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    @Daz – Benitez… Yeah… ehhhh – we’d have to give him a good grace period mind… I cant see it as Ashley doesnt do this turnaround thing… he commited to Pardew and he”ll stick with him – Mind you that said – Pardew might resign at the end of the season… at least Benitez seems like he knows what he is doing… when you compare him with pardew… its like Premier League Coach and League Two Player-Manager…

  • 292 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    ruddy

    i dont want anyone to say sorry, for me the fact that ppl are waking up to him is good enough

    i have been nothing but nice today, asking rather than telling :)

    but i have to say if this, if you think he has taken us as far as he could, then the guy has taken us backwards :(

    IBIZA

    looking at a cv can be reading a song without hearing the music, could sound great or tereble

    i think if you looked at his cv and thought yeh , maybe if some one had just last that bit longer,, he could have pulled it together,,
    but then if you factor in all the other things that has got us here ( only managers jobs training team and subs) we look a tereble team, very defensive with lots of players out of position,
    and then you look at other clubs he has been at, you can see he has left some pretty big messes at clubs, i think its not hard to see why no big clubs touch him

    i think he dont know how to handle good players

  • 293 clinath@ed // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    “You also cut grass for a living you loser.”….gotta be one of the greatest put downs in history,
    …get me a pair of dry ones !!

  • 294 ArtyH // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Could Gary Neville have a point: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/genius-punditry-gary-neville-discusses-the-problems-at-newcastle-united/

  • 295 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Pardew should have gone up to Ashley in the summer and said “I WANT SOME NEW F**KING PLAYERS RIGHT F**KING NOW”

  • 296 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Cockney…This is where it becomes difficult and why I suggested drawing a line, not just you and I, but everyone.

    Ruddy may have started with you today (I haven’t checked), but your sign off last night was calling him a homo. What do you expect him to do today?

    I am sorry for those who may have been over the top in the past, I certainly was one of them. Things seemed to be on a high and it was hard to accept the approach of many at the time. There was always room for improvement, but how people were so down about last season is beyond me, it still is.

    I don’t see where point scoring is helping anyone. If it makes people feel better to know they were right, then surely they know that already without having to try and shame anyone on here?

    We all make mistakes, hopefully we learn from them, not everyone does.

    For someone who feels they have been attacked in the past, I find your approach more about point scoring. I can see why, honestly I can, it’s a bit of a Fcuk you and your positive vibes, but just don’t expect people to take it. We’re all hurting, no matter what we thought then or think now.

  • 297 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Catchy

    This is the the catchy I prefer, I don’t mind if you’re “telling rather than asking” as long as it’s done respectfully, you give me respect and I’ll give it right back to you, it’s how I live my life.

    Well on the football field we went much further forward in terms of results, and then regressed massively, so if we balance the two seasons we’re pretty much in around mid-table, arguably he hasn’t taken us forward at all.

    But we have got better players now, so if a better manager stepped in now he’d have a much better squad to work with than the one Pardew inherited. I know it’s more down to Carr and the like than it is Pardew but if we stay up I think we have a solid enough foundation for an attack minded manager to step in.

    But whether we keep our flair players this summer after this dismal season remains to be seen.

  • 298 clinath@ed // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    ibiza….where do you get the emotional energy from to debate with these people?

  • 299 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    @Lesh – Upgrade your flash player…

    @Ashton – Who can we get instead? We dont need a 3 match saviour ala shearer again… he needs to be trusted for the 3 games… thats all we can do at the moment…

  • 300 boater // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    In a time of crisis, always go back to the absolute basics. 4-4-2 with players who are experienced and can perform in this league now. That means: Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye and Jonas in midfield and Shola/Cisse up front. Shola might not score but Cisse is a different prospect with extra space from playing with a target man.
    Not exciting but we need solid 6 or 7 out 10 performers across the pitch to get the draw/s needed.

    Sissoko is a ghost at the moment, |Marveaux and Anita are in and out games, and I don’t rate Gouffran’s decision making at all.

  • 301 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Great post Ibiza, sums it all up nicely.

  • 302 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Daz…Still on the fence, but will consider a naughty step addition :)

    With regards to Pardew I am still firmly of the opinion that he is limited in his abilities and his default is a defensive one. I do think things out of his control have highlighted his shortcomings, so do struggle to have the same hatred towards him as many and that is probably why I defend him so. They guy can’t make a comment without it being blown completely out of proportion. It’s a frenzy.

    And you really do have to wonder who, if Pardew was forced out, would replace him? Everyone talks about Ashleys ambition and I can certainly see the merits to their case, but I can also completely see how it could go the other way.

    For me, the real proviso, is if the players have turned on him and wont play for him then he must go and quickly.

  • 303 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    ArtyH – Gary Neville right? Sit the next few plays out dude :)

  • 304 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Boater

    I can’t believe that I agree with advocating the very formation that most of us wanted ditched but desperate times call for desperate measures.

    However, going back to 4-4-2 will seem like a desperation roll of the dice, many fans won’t like it if it happens.

  • 305 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    You said Di Mateo is a defencive minded manager and it that basically be a side step…that is a ridiculous!

    I think a lot of people including Ed would disagree with u there… my nan would be a step in the right direction!

    And then added a smarmy sarcastic comment on the end to piss me off

  • 306 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    boater

    I actually agree, we need as much experience as possible for the next three games. New French players have MASSIVELY let us down recently.

    Harper/Elliott
    Simmo-Taylor-Colo-Perch
    Ben-Tiote-Cab-Jonas
    Cisse-Gouffran/Shola

  • 307 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Clinath…The real world is stressful enough, don’t see why it needs to be so mental on here. With that in mind, it’s fairly easy not to get wound up…what’s the point, all each of us have to do is log off and problem solved :)

    Ruddy…I have to pull one out occasionally. Could that be misinterpreted?

  • 308 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Ah so Ibiza is out of the dark tunnel and back on his fence ??

  • 309 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    I’ve only just decided its time for pards to go. I thought it after the reading game we got new players I thought I had been perhaps bit hasty but for me it’s time to change. I still think catchy and Indian just didn’t like him we could of come second in the league but if we had him in charge we could of won it. Turns out they were right and he can’t cut it
    P.s is be upset if it was the fat Spanish waiter unless he brings Torres with him as I posted earlier lol

  • 310 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Ibiza… Already taken that ball and ran with it. Could that be misinterpreted? :)

  • 311 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Do you know something on NUFC TV they showed the lads training pre-liverpool on the pitch… Pardew with his big bag of balls and all laughs and smiles as the lads lashed shots all over the place, running around aimlessly and Carver/Stone (Who I seriously doubt speak French) standing back and just watching… what I noticed bar that was the set-pieces and passes out wide they practised – amazingly – that is what they tried to the Gallowgate end (as they did in the Video) in the 2nd half… Is it a case that they are just follwing orders… they have lost confidence in their own ability and more importantly the manager… he has no connection wih these guys… I am feeling worried again… Time for some Prozac…

  • 312 wreker16 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Good luck ed !!!! And colo….

  • 313 clinath@ed // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    ibiza…but its compulsive viewing, like corrie or cats on the internet. Where do these lads get their medication from, I want some (or not!)

  • 314 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Cockney…Respectfully, may I jump in? :)

    I actually think Di Matteo would be a sideways step too. Played a better style at a smaller club, but when there is more at stake, he went defensive. Granted it worked, but so did it for us last year.

    Truth is, he couldn’t handle his dressing room.

    I think there are an awful lot of similarities to Pardew.

    This is actually the basis for my argument about why I don’t want Martinez either. I don’t think he has the stomach to handle a big club. That and the way he handled the Mcw*nk*rface situation.

    Breathe Ibiza, in and out :)

  • 315 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Last nights game just went like I thought It would…

    It’s all down to what wigan do now. I think they’ll win the game in hand and then we’re really in big poo poo.

    Hopefully those lovely brummies do us a massive favour on the last day. ;)

  • 316 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    It doesnt mean im a homophobe…
    I was generalising and i apologise for that.

  • 317 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Clinath…You caught me, I’m just trying to find out who their dealers are :)

    Rainirx…I reckon it could be :)

    Belfast…I am out of the tunnel! However, I was never off my fence, don’t be ridiculous.

  • 318 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Jamiemac

    i really dont buy into the injurie excuse

    please look at these

    villa at our place 1-1
    we had a great team out
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/267519/ratings
    stoke city
    we took the lead, but went defensive and lost
    pretty good team
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274525/ratings
    southampton
    played us of the park this day,
    pretty strong team
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274525/ratings
    swansea
    we were at home with a pretty stong team

    west ham at home
    another very strong team
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274227/ratings

    i have picked out team that i beleive would normally finish below us,
    and infact, most are in this battle with us right now,,

    look at the line ups and tell me we had shit teams out,,

    you carnt, yes in games, we may have missed a player, but so has every other team,,

    HBA was in a lot of these team

    i think time has clouded your judgment
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/261675/ratings

  • 319 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Come on lads, bring it in, group hug.

    Not you Belfast, you can p*ss off you tw@ x

  • 320 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    villa at our place 1-1
    we had a great team out
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/267519/ratings

  • 321 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    stoke city
    we took the lead, but went defensive and lost
    pretty good team
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274525/ratings

  • 322 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Ibiza – Finally – you’ve come out of the Tunnel :) Proud of you….Homo :)

  • 323 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Benitez would be a massive upgrade like, but there’s no way he would put up with laurel & hardy.

  • 324 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    southampton
    played us of the park this day,
    pretty strong team
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274525/ratings

  • 325 boater // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    JamieMac – That’s my team too.

    Ruddy – I read a post on here a couple of weeks that hit the nail on the head. We have been playing the wrong formation for the players we have all season. 4/3/3 accommodated Ba/ Cisse/Arfa – all of whom were having sparkling seasons. Ba’s gone and Arfa has hardly played, but we have continued with the same system. 4-3-3 with only 1 natural goalscorer goes against the reason to have it in the 1st place. We see 1 isolated striker and a team of lost midfielders running around aimlessly into one another.

  • 326 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    “Would this be the same Di Matteo that had WBA fighting relegation? Would this be the same Di Matteo who set the world alight as manager of MK Dons?

    Or is the Di Matteo that people are giving way too much credit for a CL victory despite the fact that they were battered in the two legs of the semi final and bar certain miracles managed to get through and then by some stroke of fluke managed to beat Bayern Munich despite being battered for 90mins in that game too.

    Or is it the same Di Matteo that made a CL winning team with 100m quid of investment look average?

    Seriously, some people can’t see the wood from the trees, I’m all for upgrading Pardew but not with yet another average manager.”

    This was my comment @102. I think you haven’t got a grip on sarcasm because the last part of it wasn’t sarcastic. Di Matteo is an average manager who got a massive stroke of luck in what he achieved, arguably identical to Pardew.

    I’m not sure whether your nan would be a step up but if she’s got her coaching badges and likes to press the ball high and keep the ball on the deck then let’s give her an interview.

    That’s sarcasm! ;)

  • 327 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    lol afternoon lads, have I missed anything?

    Complete chaos at NUFC.
    Handbags and fence sitting on the blog …

    Just your average day then …

  • 328 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Apologies – I do hope that was taken as a joke… I like Homo’s like the next man… !!! Oh wait that doesnt sound right… Come on Guys – We are all sticking together here…. Sticking being the operative word mind :) Groooouuuuussssssss :)

  • 329 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    swansea
    we were at home with a pretty stong team

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/261675/ratings

  • 330 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    ichrisho…The funny thing is, I originally wrote “I am out” and just knew what would follow. Thought I had covered it, apparently not :)

  • 331 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    west ham at home
    another very strong team
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274227/ratings

    i have picked out team that i beleive would normally finish below us,
    and infact, most are in this battle with us right now,,

    look at the line ups and tell me we had shit teams out,,

    you carnt, yes in games, we may have missed a player, but so has every other team,,

    HBA was in a lot of these team

    i think time has clouded your judgment

  • 332 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    By the way it wasn’t even directed at you, it was referenced to Ed’s opinion in his article.

  • 333 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    I’d love AVB at Newcastle.

  • 334 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Catchy give it a rest man you`ve been through all this before its the here and now i`m worried about

  • 335 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Sorry Ibiza :) – I am trying to look on the bright side of everything on the blog and in life from now on… its good to have debates and disagree but jeez – if we cant get on here.. then we are doomed… as a club and as supporters…

  • 336 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Ok thats your opinion…

    Same with you and ruddy supporting Pardew most of this season.

    Di Mateo is better than you make out and he does his business with very little funds.

    Wouldnt it be funny if Di Mateo was appointed and was successful at nufc?

    You would then have to bight the bullet, twice.

  • 337 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    I was thinking earlier that we could all abduct Ibiza & Ruddy & make their lives hell for a few days.

    But Ibiza being back up on his fence has ruined that plan. Need to have a re-think now.

  • 338 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    @Catchy – Youre making me nervous with all these facts… lest we be reminded how awful we were and are…. :(

    18 losses in 35 games says it all Fella…

  • 339 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    @Cockney – DiMatteo is a fanny…. the backroom team at Chelsea (the players) and at West Brom made him look good – we need better.

  • 340 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    daztoon-anti christ is that the time

    yes your right,,

    but im using facts to prove, injuries, had not as big a part as some would have us believe

    its just a fabrication, that is now apparently fact

  • 341 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    “Does his business with very little funds”

    What!?! He luckily won the CL with one of the best squad in the PL, and still only got them to finish 6th! The following season he had the best part of 100m quid invested in it and couldn’t handle them.

    The clubs where he has very little funds he has done mediocre at best with them. Where are you plucking these gems from?

  • 342 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    ichrisho
    sorry :(

  • 343 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Belfast talking about abduction…. things have taken a turn… jeez…

  • 344 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Catchy… What point are you trying to prove? Pardews a bad manager? This much is known and doesn’t really need anymore justification

  • 345 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Not at all Catchy – its just scary thats all when you really delve into those matches… the bad result was warranted and we deserve to be where we are… its just the most depressing fact of the last decade… Lets all have 3 more stabs at being positive for NUFC sake… if we go down – at least we will have footie on a Tuesday, Wednesday and sometimes Friday Night… Awesome!:)

  • 346 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Catchy’s still buzzing like. He’s been having a constant orgasm from Saturday….

    All hail king Catchy !!

    Though to be fair to him, he’s been calling for Pardews head for nearly two seasons lol

  • 347 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Belfast

    Given the proximity of where you are to where I am, should I genuinely be worried about a kidnap plot?

  • 348 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    @catchy in norway
    We know man I`ve been with you all the way as many have seen Pardew for a very average manager at best.I`m sure Ashley has too and he will be gone.

  • 349 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Rainrix

    well yess durr lol

    but my main poit i was proving is that the injury excuse is being used, when infact it was only bad managment

    i just get a bit sick of ppl making out that we were with only half a team of inbreads, due to our star players being out for hundreds of weeks with broken everythings,

    yes i exagarated a little,, :D

  • 350 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Like i said ruddy…

    If he gets appointed and is successful, il remember you.

  • 351 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    West Ham 2 – Toon 1
    QPR 0 – Toon 2 – – – – – – – – We survive…
    Toon 2 – Arsenal 2

    ….Take note – my Crystal Meth Ball has shone the light …..

  • 352 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Ruddy I have eyes and ears all over Belfast & beyond..
    So yes you should be very worried… ;)

  • 353 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    right

    im so sorry if i have offened anyone today

    it was not my intention,,

    im off, and will leave you all in peace

    HAPPY THOUGHTS NOW,,

    we can pull though this

  • 354 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Catchy

    If a manager came in that you really liked and you’re really pleased with and he lost two in a row would you be calling for his head?? Because that’s what you’ve done with Pardew.

    People need to understand we’re not a great side. There’s a reason we signed these players for under £5m. We’re a mid-table club for now and I think some people are quick to forget that.

  • 355 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    special bye bye to le belfast

  • 356 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    To be able to say “Like I said” you actually have to have said it previously, and you didn’t so you can’t.

    And if we appoint him and he is successful I’ll be too delighted revelling in the success of our club to be even remotely concerned with petty point scoring.

    Seriously, are you an adult?

  • 357 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    @Catchy – you didnt offend anyone… :) Awesome fact relaying by the way and if Pardew stays… and doesn’t do well – we can all say that we knew the guy who thought he was douche all along :)

  • 358 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Belfast…The problem with any plan you think up is that by the time you’ve thought it up the moment has always passed.

    Lord knows I love a trier though ;)

    Cockney…If it meant our team doing well, I’d be delighted. I’m not slating Di Matteo, but I really don’t think he’s anything special at all. I may defend Pardew, but if we could get better I wouldn’t hesitate, but it needs to be an actual proper upgrade.

    ichrisho…Mate, this blog needs some humour back.

  • 359 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Catchy… Ah ok i was just wondering what you were doing plucking random sky sports links out of thin air for :)

  • 360 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    @ichrisho
    Don`t start the midweek games argument again.you know our players are to tired to play a midweek game as well as the weekend one

  • 361 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Catchy

    Surprisingly, I don’t think you actually offended anyone today, sorry for calling you detestable yesterday, as I actually think you care about this club, which is more than can be said for some people…

    Belfast

    I don’t even like Pardew now! I swear! :P

  • 362 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    He wouldnt of made half the mistakes as pardew this season and i guarantee he wouldnt of had those 5 new players signed either because we would of been comfortably mid table atleast…. with injuries!

    But hey what do i know?

  • 363 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Jamiemac
    grrrr

    i want to goo

    well i think we are a good team/ sqaud

    and i think if fegry had our squad,, we would be up in the top 4 right now,,

    and no im not saying id only settle for fergy

    there are many good managers out there

  • 364 Mr Toon82 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    I read this blog nearly every day. It never fails to make me laugh. Some posts are just plain crazy and probably done by kids. I’m keeping calm. I believe we will stay up because i believe in the players (Not the manager). Personally i would like David Moyes to take over in the summer (Long shot i know) but we are a big club and could match his ambitions in football. He fits the bill perfectly.

  • 365 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Yes cockney, what do you know? How can you categorically state Di Matteo would have had us mid table with a paper thin squad crippled with injuries, he may have done but how could you be certain?

    Do you actually think before you type?

  • 366 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Aye Ibiza – it does… so thats why I am offering anyone the chance to give me their top joke of the day… Mine is:

    Q: If Google was human, would it be a man or a woman?
    A: Its defo a woman as its always suggesting other ideas before you have even finished your sentence…. :)

    Yeah? …………….oh….. No? …………..oh….. (Silence)

  • 367 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Cockney & Ruddy…I drew a line ffs! Behave :)

    Here it is again

    _________________________

    Don’t cross it!

  • 368 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    no worries

    all under the bridge

    take care :D

  • 369 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    catchy

    Haha you can go mate I was just wondering how much of a chance you’d be willing to give a manager you approve of.

    Looking at our squad I reckon on paper 7th-9th would be realistic.

  • 370 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Ibiza

    He started it, and he’s calling me names, and he’s a big doo doo head.

  • 371 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    ichrisho….My top joke of the day?

    Pardew :) Sorry, it was there for the taking.

  • 372 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Catchy

    Glad to hear it lad. Take care!

  • 373 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    @Daz – Oh yeah I forgot about that nugget from Uncle Pardew’s book of “how to deal with the media – when your team thinks youre a gimp” (I’ll find the ISBN for that in a minute… That means we’ll be funked in the Championship (Oh man… and then I can see DiCanio joining us in League One and saying “I always wanted to be the Newcastle Manager”… AAAHHHHHHHHHH) :)

  • 374 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Ruddy…For all we know he’s a small doo doo head.

    Remember, sticks and stones may break my bones….

    Christ, I’m the substitute teacher! I’m getting locked in the cupboard aren’t I (please don’t feel the need for “in the closet” jokes :) )?

  • 375 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Ibiza – BOOOOOOOOOOOO….. :)

    Pardew does have a lovely set of glasses… I’ll give him that.. . wreaks of intelligence complex mind…

  • 376 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Oh yeah, Di Canio, not that we can poke too much fun at their 6-1 thrashing last night after our recent showing, but are people still considering him some sort of messiah?

  • 377 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    *******************************************The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results and that defines Alan Pardew this season.

    He is now pinning his hopes on our survival on the the man who if he had had his own way would have walked away from us in January

  • 378 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Ibiza

    Haha class lad! Small doo doo head, didn’t even see you taking that angle with that joke so well played sir, well played, and then you brought it full circle with the in the closest.

    Times like these make the blog worth it :P

  • 379 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Lets all cheer up and go to our happyplace… :) Check these names oot… classic :)

    http://www.happyplace.com/3683/fagley-dork-man-has-worst-name-of-all-time

  • 380 Rainrix // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Ibizas so deep in the closet he’s bumming aslan in narnia.

    Come on dont tell me not to make jokes ibiza ;)

  • 381 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    ichrisho…I think it’s just an effort to put people off claiming he needs glasses :)

  • 382 Hatem's better than Messi // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    We’ll have a better idea of where we stand next Tuesday night after Wigan play their game in hand.

    Two games in three days, hopefully Martinez will apologising to Wigan fans for the player’s tired performance and we’ll be nearly safe.

  • 383 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Ruddy…

    This is pardew we are talkin about yea?

    Yes i am certain.

  • 384 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Cockney

    You can’t be. You’re wrong ;)

  • 385 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Seen thou everyone’s putting teams up here’s mine
    harper
    mapou Taylor collo Anita
    Perch sissok
    Hba. Marv
    gouffran cisse/ameobi

    cabaye has been of late same with cisse why I’d be toying with the idea of getting ameobi in

  • 386 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    R-dawwwgg – – – – -BOOOOMMMMMM :) Quality…know Prince Caspian much? :)

  • 387 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Ruddy… :)

    Rainrix… :(

    Ibizatoons post….Lazy.

  • 388 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Nimo…Not bad. Has there been any news on Marv?

  • 389 Novocastrian66 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Elliot has to play for me ahead of Harper. Harper stays on his line too much. With Carroll being a target and the amount of balls WHU will pump into the box we need a keeper willing to take a cross. Elliot is comfortable doing just that.

  • 390 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    real – dortmund game should be a wee corker. real needing to all out attack leaving themselves wide open at the back. recipe for a few goals at least.

  • 391 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    oh… :(

  • 392 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Anyone think that Pardew has the balls to drop Cabaye and Jonas for West Ham???

  • 393 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Novo…Fair point. Despite letting in 9 goals in 2 games, I don’t think he was really at fault for many of them.

    Not much to chose between the two of them, I’d go for whoevers confidence was the highest.

  • 394 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Novo u mean the same Elliot that came out for the 1st goal against Liverpool only to stop half way to be left in no mans land. Not heard much bout Marv is he injured like?

  • 395 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Ruddy…

    I said ‘wouldnt it be funny if Di Mateo was appointed and was successful at nufc?’

    And then said…

    ‘Like i said ruddy… if Di Mateo is appointed and is successful, il remember you’

    Why couldnt i say ‘like i said’?

    Stop trying to call me out on everything and try and make me look small, get a life.

    ‘Like i said’…. your a jelous man.

  • 396 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    To be fair to Elliot, he didn’t exactly have any protection from the defense on Saturday. Harper has been an amazing servant for NUFC but his time has gone, he’s way to slow now

  • 397 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    will be interesting to see how barca handle their game as well.

  • 398 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Pardew will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever drop Jonas. He would actually play Jonas before Messi.

  • 399 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Toon Tang…It should be a good game, that’s for sure. Can Madrid win 3-0 at home?

    JB…I fully expect to see Jonas starting. I know he’s frustrating, but Pardew will look to his experience and graft. Not saying it’s the right call, but I see him starting. Not sure on Cabaye tbh.

  • 400 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Old heads against the Hammers ….

    Harper in
    Simmo in
    Collo in
    Ameobi in

    Perch out
    Yanga out
    Elliott out

    4-4-2 is the key….alas to a 2-1 one loss… Cant go against my Crystal Meth Ball….

  • 401 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Elliott
    Taylor-Mbiwa-Colo-Haidara
    Perch
    Sissoko-Anita
    Marv/Hba
    Cisse – Gouffran

  • 402 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Ruddy & Cockney…To the headmasters office! Go on, get out of the classroom.

    Belfast…Was that written with the batman theme tune in mind?

    Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever…JONAS

    No? Just me? Okay, I’ll calm down.

    Nimo..Aye, unless we’re being lied to?!? Injury league has him out for another 5 days with a groin / pelvis injury.

  • 403 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Just for the record I don’t rate harper or Elliot

  • 404 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    You mean “you’re a jealous man”

    You never said you’d remember me in the first post, there is where the conflict lay.

    You know I am actually done trying to discuss anything of substance with you because I’ve made my mind up about you. You’re a ignorant, arrogant homophobe, if you need to use slurs to express your opinion then buddy you aint no friend of mine, in fact I don’t want to know ya.

    I’m not jealous believe me.

    I’m just screwing with you now because you’re so unaware of what I was doing I was wondering how long it would take you to figure it out. Turns out I had to tell you ;)

    I’m sure you’ve plenty of friends who will tell you how right you are, and how mean Ruddy was to you, and they will give you hugs and tell you you’re the most specialist, darn tooting, smartest football knowledged little man in the whole damn planet :D

    But right now, the adults are talking ;)

  • 405 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Jonas will start, Cabaye will start, Sissoko will still be played as a No10, HBa will still be on the bench, Gouffran will still be played in midfield instead of up front and our want away captain fantastic will come in as Pardew has pinned his hopes on Colo turning things around even though he doesn’t want to be here.

    As I said earlier the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result

  • 406 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    on their day ibiza aye, i suppose klopp will have them drilled to just not concede and maybe hit on the counter. am looking forward to it though defo after our last few weeks of comedy football haha

  • 407 Le Belfast 007 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    He’s not frustrating Ibiza he’s just shi*

    He moans about having no threat from the wings & plays Jonas on one wing, then a central midfielder on the other wing.

  • 408 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.101greatgoals.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/alan-pardew.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/as-newcastle-close-in-on-10th-french-player-old-alan-pardew-quotes-make-for-funny-reading/&h=276&w=460&sz=35&tbnid=0j1MuVJixv0LGM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfunny%2Bpardew%2Bpics%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=funny+pardew+pics&usg=__sGICx3XMM1ikP5Q04u0nYpfJfFo=&docid=ULYEX268rdmWjM&sa=X&ei=9eZ_Ufy6K9OThgeZloCABQ&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAQ&dur=1710

    Come on hometime…

  • 409 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    this is the set up or lineup that will get us 3 points out of 3 games and hopefully enough to keep us up

    GK
    LB, CB, CB, CB, RB
    DM, DM ,DM, DM, DM

    looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

  • 410 Jamiemac // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Pleaseeee everyone take Mbiwa out your teams, he was so so bad against l’pool and Scum!

  • 411 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Frankly speaking is Roberto Di Mateo good enough? I terms of tactics. I’m not too sure. Please enlighten.

    Apart from bring Chelsea Super Stars to CL medal playing Ultra defensive with the only counter goal.

  • 412 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    @Black and White with an army lol
    That`s the formation weve been playing doesn`t work

  • 413 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Jonas scored a header against Chelsea… didnt he?
    Wow – I nearly forgot… well that was one thing in about 2 years worth of nothing… He has to play him as it will be the last 3 games he will be…

  • 414 nimo // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Ibiza wouldn’t be first time we’ve been lied to. No way collo been out for this long perhaps they decided seen though looked like we would be safe he could go to Argentina after all

  • 415 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    daztoon-anti christ is that the time

    lol amazingly true lol

  • 416 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Nimo – He’s been out so long – he’s grown a feckin’ beard… :)

  • 417 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Belfast…I think it’s spelt shy ;)

    Joking aside, I agree that Jonas is no winger. Having said that, I don’t think we actually have any wingers. Obertan? Ferguson?

    Toon Tang…I cannot see Barca getting back in to their game, Madrid has a small chance, similar to us having a small chance of looking like a football team again this season.

    JB…Is there any room in that quote for saying the same thing over and over? ;)

  • 418 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Pardew should manager England. If you agree.

  • 419 ichrisho // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Right Fellas – Time to head on home.. Have a good evening debating the pro’s and pro’s of Pardew.

  • 420 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    ibiza hahaha aye a very minute glimmer of hope eh, i wont hold me breath

  • 421 nufc786 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/65401/reports-of-dressing-room-split-at-newcastle-united

    The Daily Telegraph reports that there is a feeling amongst some Newcastle players that the French players are less concerned at the club’s current plight in the Premier League than their counterparts.

    The report goes on to suggest that the same players have openly complained about the team’s tactics.

  • 422 bzak12 // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    I think this headline Ashley will spend big is just a ploy to give Percy more time.
    When he has taken us down Percy will say I take responsibilty and will make sure I take us back up at the 1st attempt!
    Its a shame really cos Mike had PEA lined up.
    Never mind I’ve got a nearly purple (actually claret and blue) coming in – Carlton Cole to link up with Shola who I’ve persuaded to sign a new 5 year deal.
    Sorry, I’m stopping I’m depressing myself!
    PS Rumours on twitter HBA agent talking to Spurs.

  • 423 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    ichrisho…Been a pleasure as always. Take it easy/

    Toon Tang…For gods sake don’t hold your breath, you may well set a world record, but would likely end up dead.

  • 424 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    786…Could well be true, could well be tabloid rubbish. Nothing in there to suggest it’s credible, but it is plausible.

  • 425 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Can people stop going on about getting Di Matteo !!

    He is shite and would not be any better than Pardew he was flukey with the champions league in every game they parked the bus with much better players than what we had

    We need someone with a top class pedigree for attacking football

    Its a bit worrying throwing Colo in at the deep end on Saturday how fit is he??

    Would love it though if he pulled out one of those performances where he just stops everything like the Sunderland away game this season he owes us a couple more before he goes and playing against a predictable long ball team is the perfect place for him to do it

    I think if the team starts the game the way we started against West Brom with Arfa playing we could maybe be out of sight before half time if Cisse has his shooting boots on

    But what team will we play or how we will set up?Its a lottery watching us as you never know what the hell is going to happen

  • 426 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Santon…Agree with every word from the first to the last.

    I expect Benny to start. Pardew knows a moment of brilliance could provide the difference. I hope he does anyway.

  • 427 Slatymag // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    I hope everything goes o.k, Ed. Good luck.

  • 428 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    What ever happens he needs to do away with two defensive midfielders just one will do just to sit and protect the back four

  • 429 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    I like KK for his Frankness. I love this guy because he dont hide and cover.

    But MA hate him, which he shouldn’t. KK is speaking the truth about the “Big Four” and how we can’t compete with them. MA cant take it.

    Its the truth.

    If our club can’t even luke high qualities YOUTH players here than what is the chance of getting them when they grow older?

    If money was the key factor for true qualities youth players than we jolly well got to afford it. Be it Fàbregas or Ronaldo. They are young with potential.

    When some grow older, wanted to leave for better wages and we just couldn’t afford then we can still let go at a good price and recover our cost.

    Starting from the back
    GK
    1 good example is Krul. (International in legal age, still learning, gaining and growing)
    Bought at a cheap 500k, if 1 day RealMardid, Baca, etc wanted him and he wanted to leave, we can still sell him at a good price.

  • 430 DokToon // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    ruddy @396…

    you now owe me a new monitor, i spit my coffee at the last bit of that post :)

    i can see it thru ich’s crystal meth ball now.. we win our first prem title with (insert manager’s name here)… we then go on the following season, finish mid table, and certain people will call for his sack, saying, ” i told you so, (insert manager’s name here), he was full of sh!te, and got lucky becasue he inherited pardew’s team.”

    the world never ends, it simply re-cycles…

    HWTL, no matter what, ill stay loyal thick or thin (but my god, its quite thin right now…)

  • 431 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    ill have my next of kin pick up that record breakers award for me from roy castle eh ibiza.

    some thing’s gotta change for the better sooner rather than later though surely. somebody please tell me its going to change pleeaasseee

  • 432 Jonny // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    ——————Elliot——————-
    Simo—-willo———colo—-haidara

    Ober—–perch——-tiote—–Jonas

    ———–shoal——-offside———-

    Should be enough to get a 0-0.

  • 433 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Daz…I could get my head around two defensive midfielders if they did their job.

    Toon Tang…I can’t see it changing for the worse at this point…wait…I take that back, don’t want to be tempting fate.

  • 434 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    @Ibizatoon
    Two yes if one sits in the middle and the other cover`s for our attacking fullbacks otherwise one is plenty if we can keep the ball and play an attacking football

  • 435 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Daz…I followed your post until the bit about attacking football and keeping the ball? Are you on drugs?

  • 436 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Please not Dim Matteo again, I liked him as a player and I thinik he’s a decent guy but he is far from being an upgrade – at best a sideways move – has presided over an equally bad losing run at WBA as ours and tactically let the senior players do pretty much what they wanted at Chelski – counterattacking game only option against Barca and he got lucky.
    He is another overhyped slightly better than average manager – not in Rafa’s class and that’s for sure

  • 437 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2013/4/30/4286034/newcastle-united-sack-alan-pardew-relegation?

  • 438 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Di Matteo will change nothing, if we are to get a new manager we need a Rudi Garcia or Fred Rutten or one of the other top coaches out there that would jump at the chance of coming here. I’d even take Benitez at a push and i can’t stand the guy but he would be an upgrade to the idiot we currently have

  • 439 BigKirky // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Pardew and his tactics, player choices and subs are a bit like someone walking into a double glazed glass door, bouncing back, and still seeing a clear path to the next room.

    So he tries again, donnng, and again, donnnng, and again, donng, try again, donnng… he’s just not learning.

    A chimp could make better choices on how to learn from his mistakes and what isn’t working.

    What he thinks he sees, he thinks is the right way, so he’s not going to change. But he’ll get more donnnnggggggs and has done at all his clubs, so there’s no real change.

    Pardew should have been backed over the summer, so it’s Ashley’s fault as well, but the basic lack of blindingly obvious judgement calls would have just masked his inability to formulate an offensive approach on the pitch, which you could even see last season.

    It’s like that druggy who won the lottery and wasted it.

    You can keep giving him more money, (or in Pardews case more international players), but if he’s not up to the job of investing safely (or in Pardew’s case getting the best out of the players with positions, tactics etc), then the amount (or team form/response) will eventually deteriorate and disappear, which is what is happening now, leaving a grand old mess behind with it.

  • 440 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Pards now appears a fair Premier league manager who has ultimately fallen short after a succession of problems.

    I guess a better manager may well have achieved more, but surely it’s a bit harsh and pointless to blame one man for the shortcomings of an entire organization.

    I accept he likely has to go, just as I now also accept that if he does, much more still needs to be done.

    That fifth place finish, I believe, flattered to deceive and has done us few favours in hindsight.

  • 441 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    @Ibizatoon
    yeah mate the fumes from re painting your fence

  • 442 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Do we really need to keep on about Pardew when we pretty much know he’s dead man walking ?

    JB

    Garcia would be fine but why on earth would he want to come to the Toon. I’d be setting my sight s a bit higher than us at the present time if I was him. He is also unproven in the EPL and may take time to adapt.

  • 443 toon22 // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    @Jonny
    Lmfao …offside

  • 444 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    yo-yo

    I think Garcia would jump at the chance of coming here, coming from Lille he’d be taking charge of a very good squad with a brilliant stadium, fan-base etc, etc.

    It would also be the perfect platform for him to cement his name as a top coach in Europe, but his ambition would have to be match by Ashley.

    The same thing could be said for Fred Rutten

  • 445 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    @yo-yo
    If we are to spend big money would you go for more french or look to the German/Dutch market as well as a few home based players

  • 446 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    daztoon

    right now we need more british players in the squad if the dressing room divisions are to be believed

  • 447 donkey // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    really dont want de matteo or benitez cant see them bringing much more to the table than pardew. what about somone like glenn hoddle venerballs or even roy keane altough i dont think the alot of people on here would want keane but i really think he could take us far ………if padwes is going to get replaced at least replace him with someone a lot better

  • 448 toon kk // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Just hope we play better in the championship because it will be a miracle if we stay up. The players don’t seem to care and Pardew can’t see all the mistakes he’s making. Good job Demba ba got us goals before he left or we would have been bottom of the league. What a shambles. Some five year plan.

  • 449 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    donkey

    Venables, Hoddle and Keene would all be a backwards step. We need to move forward not try to help another manager who no one else is willing to touch, we did that with Pardew and look where that got us

  • 450 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    that’ll do donkey, that’ll do.

    hahaha comedy gold right there mate, roy keane? he looks like he’s about to buster bloodvessel at any given moment.

  • 451 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Toon will fight until the end, attack attack attack!

  • 452 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    i honestly saw the devil in his eyes after southgate disagreed with him at half time during one of englands recent games.

  • 453 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    3 games left it in Toon hands….fight&support.

  • 454 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    @JackButler
    Defo need some homegrown players Would take Shane Long before Carroll though

  • 455 donkey // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    realisticly thou it will be very hard to get a top top manerger because of the position were in and wage struture and what we would be willing to pay out personly i would love laudrup in as are next manerger he young great tacticly think he would get the best out of are tecnical players would he come to us thou i really dont know

  • 456 toonbrother // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Reintroducing Colocinni at this stage would be a disaster!

    Last thing our back 4 needs right now is instability. Our back 4 was perfectly fine versus Westbrom Its pardews tinkering with the defensive midfielder and wingers that caused the collapse v liverpool

  • 457 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    4pts more go go go!!!!!!

  • 458 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Ruddy..

    Isnt it funny that arguments involve you?

    And how much u claim u have friends and are wealthy and good looking yet are most probably the biggest blogger and loser here.

    I dont think u are good looking and wealthy and have friends as you claim, otherwise u wouldnt be on here 24/7 throughout the year calling people out for petty things.

    I come on here now and then to express my opinion.

    You come on here like an angry shark looking for his next bait because life isnt treating u well.

    Its obvious u have no life and this blog gives a lot of comfort, i get that and i feel sorry for you.

    Here is a reminder of how much of loser u are and just to let u know how i felt about pardews bad tactics, line ups etc and playing ba and cisse together as u thought i was jumpin on other peoples arguments….

    http://m.nufcblog.com/2012/09/01/newcastle-have-some-top-youngsters-now-coming-through/

    Take a good look at your self….

  • 459 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    @daztoon

    Don’t go mentioning Shane Long or you’ll have WWYCD go all misty eyed :D

    But yeah I would take Long also Redmond, Ince and Matty Phillips would be good young additions to the squad. The price goes up when buying British but we need that understanding that they would bring.

  • 460 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Top top manerger would love to come in our club, potential full of internationals.

    Salvation Toon First! Attack! Attack! Attack!

  • 461 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    @donkey
    I think we would be a step up for Laudrup and for us he defo aint ready for the likes of Madrid yet.

  • 462 kevymartins // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Well coming from a few chelsea fans friends of mine di mato was good and they liked him.

  • 463 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Toon will fight or die with their boots on. Attack Attack Attack!

  • 464 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Every fans dream is for their club to have a chance to fight for trophies.

    Yes, Arsenal is no longer a champion but their fans regards them as they are and will always be proud of their style of football and how they win those trophies.

    Spurs, they will try hard to keep some of the best player like Bale, giving him better contracts, keep him happy, shows challenge in the transfer market every season by bring in real qualities players in any departments.

    These club are trying to form a top team that can play together for two season or more. A team that fills with good true qualities players if this can be achieve, they will get to their goals and win trophies.

    Players will feel it during this process, and will stick together to achieve together and win something for themselves together with the club.

    They knew that the club have true ambition and install with a manager that is of true quality and knowledge. They will feel that they can win something together.

    Going out every week to thrush other team. They are happy, (you wouldn’t be happy, if the club is not showing ambition and the manager is not of some qualities, picking the wrong guy instead of you) Going out every week to win by luck, bulldozing for every matches or even get thrush every match 6-0, 3-0)

    Quality Players
    Even if they don’t make it that season they will still give the club and the manager a final chance to try it out before calling it quit.

    ManUtd
    Ronaldo, AlexF ask him to give him 1 more season before going to Real and he did .

    RioF, Alex ask him to give him 1 more season and he did.
    Scholes, Gis, Alex ask them to come back to help and they did.
    …and many other players e.g GK,,etc.

    Why? How? Because they have this togetherness. They knew that if they play hard together, they will win something or gain some glory because they trust 1.The Club and 2. The Manager.

    Ask Ginola, ask Asprilla, ask Gillespie…ask the entertainer . They know something.

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Club/History/ClubHistory/0,,10278~2108996,00.html

    “The Championship was now in Manchester United’s hands and they didn’t let it slip. They won the title with Newcastle a demoralised runner-up after leading the pack for most of the season. Peter Beardsley was to record in his biography, “We had ourselves to blame”, while Kevin Keegan noted in the club’s magazine,

    “We have played some wonderful football and I’m well aware that most of the neutral fans in this country feel that we’ve entertained them better than any other club. But that’s not a consolation – I wanted Newcastle United to be champions and we’re not the champions”

  • 465 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    @JackButler
    we could use the likes of Campbell,Fregurson etc as loans as part of any deals as a sweetner as yeah you have to pay over the odds for the British players

  • 466 bzak12 // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Big Kirky @ 430 that was sheer class but true, I’m giggling like a kid!

  • 467 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    How anyone can say Di Matteo is a side step is a joke moaning that he defended against Barca they lost 4-0 and still had more possition you can out pass them you have to sit deep and counter.

  • 468 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    *cant out pass them. Had to beat Napoli 4-1 he did it 2-0 down away to barca 10 men draws 2-2 and he also won the fa cup he wouldn’t be my first choice but I would take him.

  • 469 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    We face the hardest run in of them because other clubs, fans and managers love to see us shredded.

    Non of are bothered about Wigan and will probably be sharing ice creams in the dressing room.

  • 470 kevymartins // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    @Sawbuck The power off our support can over come anything on it’s day.Don’t sweat it we will beat west ham or qpr.

    The truth is we have been off form but we are simply to good to go down…

  • 471 toonbrother // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    @458 damn. that’s cold

  • 472 kevymartins // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Not getting over confident but with wigan 5 points behind us and are remaining fixtures I feel that we are immune to go down. We will take a dump on harry redknapp’s face.

  • 473 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Timkrulfan…

    Exactly! He isnt a wotld beater but deffinatley a step up from Pardew!

  • 474 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    TimKrulFan

    It was well reported that the players ruled the dressing room at chelsea under Di Matteo and with the issues we have we need someone stronger, someone more experienced.
    Yes he won trophies at Chelsea but he had one of the best squads at his disposal, if we want to move forward we need someone better than him

  • 475 cockneymagpie90 // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Toonbrother

    Harsh but true.

  • 476 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Kev other clubs will pull their punches with Wigan.

  • 477 kevymartins // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Pardrew ”Team is tired” Team was tired” ”Tired legs out there” Used the word tired in every possible sentence available.

    My message to pardrew: Life is full of pain / Pain is full of power.

  • 478 kevymartins // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Off topic but did anyone see that video on facebook of the woman who snitched on the cartel getting her head cut off.

    What is the world coming to. I never want to see anything like that again in my life.

  • 479 toonbrother // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    I’d be more encouraged if Pardumb came out and openly admitted he got it wrong playing that stupid line up on Saturday. His problem is he never entertains the notion he isnt as smart as he thinks. The mistakes of Liverpool are destined to repeat themselves as long as Pardumb remains in charge

  • 480 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    @kevymartins

    I’d have more respect for Pardew if he just came out and said ‘None of it’s my fault, it’s all down to the players, the other coaches and the owner, I simply don’t make mistakes’!

    But his excuses are beyond pathetic

  • 481 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/claims-in-france-of-ben-arfa-representatives-talking-to-spurs/?

  • 482 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1623599-5-changes-newcastle-united-must-make-to-alan-pardews-starting-xi?

  • 483 stuart no9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    jack butler @437 – you had me going there mate. i really thought he had been sacked. , please dont do that to me, i jumped up and nearly kissed the wife- then i realized he hadnt. -then i kicked my rabbit.

  • 484 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    stuart no9

    Hahahahaha

    Sorry mate, I was hoping someone would fall for it :D

  • 485 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Next season:

    simpson——-cocacolafb——-willy——gutierrez————cocacola freebie-cocacola–that injured young—coca
    ————-cocacola———cocacola————————-

    if we drop…but i can live with it…take it as it comes…

  • 486 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    I think we;ll be lucky to get another point. Say we scrape 1 somewhere. Wigan need 2 wins from 4 and survive on goal difference. They can definetly beat Villa and Swansea.

  • 487 Beattie25 // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    I haven’t been on for a few days and I’m not staying long, I’m only here to say y’all better wise up to what is about to hit our club like a tsunami of blame and counter blame.

    Pardew is like a politician who is fighting for his managerial life. He will cling onto his job with all the might he has left in his body. This therefore means that the press will be fed his propaganda using smoke and mirrors and start to get the fans blaming the players.

    Now i’m not saying the players should be free of criticism but what I have read today is showing me that a new divide is starting to segregate the fans.

    Quite a few are starting to defend the manager at the expense of the players. Talks of a dressing room divide, a French connection and a dispute over how much they care is being force fed to us via the media without there being any solid proof.

    I think we should be objective and remember how important the players are in our quest for survival. If we start blaming them and defending Pardew we may well put the final nail in our own coffin.

    I think we should talk about such things in the summer (regarding player passion) but for now and until the end of the season be aware that the manager and his representatives will try to manipulate the journalists and the fans into thinking it is the player fault rather than the managers and that we should back Pardew over the 11 men that take to the pitch to carry out the tactics he employs.

    Any person in a position of power within the public eye will try everything to maintain that position even when it us untenable.

  • 488 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    simpson——-cocacolafb——-willy——gutierrez——cocacola freebie-cocacola–that injured young—coca
    ————-cocacola———cocacola————————-

  • 489 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    i m trying to get that in right formation …sorry so drunk!

  • 490 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    simpson——-cocacolafb——-willy——gutierrez————cocacola freebie-cocacola–that injured young—coca
    ————-cocacola———cocacola————————-

  • 491 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    ..sorry i cant…i m sorry

  • 492 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    cockney magpie ,
    can you explain what make you are or a model number and when you arrived here.

  • 493 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Coca Cola freebie team of season 2013-2014…but if…we`ll come back….twice as a little P`s team….

  • 494 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/25/women-decapitated-in-mexico-for-web-posting/

    “What we have to do, more importantly, is focus on our last league game and make sure we leave this division with pride.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-453332/Were-I-hope-West-Ham-stay-insists-dejected-Pardew.html#ixzz2RyDXkZ9r
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  • 495 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/25/women-decapitated-in-mexico-for-web-posting/

  • 496 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    …toon will bounce back!

  • 497 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    “What we have to do, more importantly, is focus on our last league game and make sure we leave this division with pride.” – AP

  • 498 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Beattie ,
    We all know Pardew is a wrong un and has been a yes man from the off but unfortunately while Mashley is in charge we are stuck with the likes of him.

  • 499 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Cockney:

    This is a post that I think sums up my views nicely,

    Whistler

    So you are the spokesperson for the entire NUFC fanbase are you? I notice how you happened to ignore the entirety of my post, perhaps as there is no logical retort due to the fact that you are merely stirring up hysterics and trying to get a rise out of another poster. Spending money is incorrectly equated with ambition. Perhaps you should leave the bluster of how MA has no ambition for the club until the end of the season, when we actually see where we are at? Or perhaps even to January where we may be pleasantly surprised?

    But that would be too much for you wouldn’t it? Because that would get in the way of the negative hysteria that is being whipped up now.

    As for “mugging off” my earlier posts, I actually thought you added a lot of sense and reason to what I had posted earlier and I read it with the respect that it deserved, if it so happens that all you were trying to do was “mug off” my post then perhaps that respect was misplaced.

    Mystic

    There’s a difference in being sneering and pompous and using grammar and intellect, sadly, however, some people fail to differentiate between the two.”

    This was on the 1st September, 2 games into the season amid the mass hysterics that followed the closure of the summer window. I must say that while I would accept that now we have a much clearer picture of where the club is at, so I am pretty honest with what I said I would do.

    I’ve read through the rest of the thread and amidst a torrent of abuse thrown my way I think I handled myself pretty well and in a respectful fashion.

    I don’t think I’m gorgeous or wealthy, you’ve twisted my words. You said that I am probably hideous to which I replied that I actually think I am quite handsome and have a “richly fulfilling life”, not material wealth, but I can see where you got confused.

    I’m also not here 24/7, I left the blog for about 4 months.

    I appreciate that you trolled the archives just to try and call me out, despite the fact the only thing you could find wasn’t really something that you could insult me with.

  • 500 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Man named as a “Dennis” was found dickcapitated……mailing….

  • 501 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Ian Toon // Sep 1, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    “Ruddy- in all modesty I would be very surprised if you were any more intelligent than me. Whether academically or intellectually. It’s just than when I first came on here I came to the conclusion on occasions that posters were restating what I had said, or disagreeing because they had not graped the point I was making. This is a football blog and were following a leisure pursuit – there are many ways to skin a cat and get your point across. But please don’t become the politically correct
    arch politician that is Ibiza( only kidding cool dude) – I know he’s not around on a Saturday. I enjoy engaging with you HTL.”

    Thanks for posting the link for that thread cockney as it afforded me the opportunity to reminisce over how deluded Ian Toon really is :D

  • 502 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Beattie25

    I don’t think people are trying to shift blame from Pardew and if there are any divisions in the dressing room it’s down to the manager that they are dealt with and are not allowed to impact on the squad as a whole.

    for now all we can do is hope and pray that we get the points we need to stay up and that Ashley finally cut’s him lose come the summer when we can all start to look forward with some optimism

  • 503 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    you re all more intelligent than me i just want: Attack Toon attack till the end…attack!

  • 504 stuart no9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    beattie25 @ 487 — blaming the players is the cheap way out. The main man , if anyone wants to lay blame on is Ashley. The buck stops at the very top. If ashley had appointed a proper manager, we wouldnt be in this mess. the team would be playing decent football .
    Ashley hired him- Ashley didnt fire him. 2 relegations in 5 years under ash.? wow.

  • 505 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fred-rutten/aufeinenblick/trainer_1883.html

  • 506 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Fight fight fight…three more games left..it s in our own…

  • 507 Patoon // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    ———–Harper
    Anita Collo Mbiwa Perch
    ————-Sissoko
    Ben Arfa Cabaye Marveaux
    ——–Cisse Gouffran

    For West Ham game

  • 508 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Daztoon

    All of what yopu say – I’d be a bit concerned if we had language cliques in the dressing room and reckon mixing nationalities is the best way. There are very few UK players who’d be value for money but we ought to keep looking in the home market if possible.
    I’d like some Spanish/Portuguese ball players too especially if we end up with the fat waiter or somebody similar.

    ATM I’d have a much bigger budget for the new manager than we have at present. That is one area where bargain basement does not work at all. Even a young upandocming manager might have some serious blips so I’d be thinking safe pair of hands with a good track record right now. One of my personal favourites is Gus Hiddink, though I agree with Beattie that top tier Spanish/Portuguese might do the job pretty well. After all SBR went the other way

  • 509 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    agree 100%….must try something different!!!! Wake-up call!!

  • 510 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    1. Ashley messed up big time in the summer, took a gamble which clearly didn’t work.

    2. Pardew has baffled us all season with tactics, certain lads starting every week, comments, everything

    3. Players haven’t given enough and regardless of the manager they shouldn’t escape criticism. There were big players injured and the biggest of all suffering depression which must impact even if physically fit.

    Each person gives these 3 issues a different percentage of blame, never get a consensus of what percentage is for each although most now put a lot of it on pardew, and fairly so, he is the manager so mus overcome problems 1 and 3.

    But lets not forget it’s silly season, anything can happen in these games. Form goes right out the window as some teams are scrapping for every point, some scrapping for survival, some already on holiday, some have freedom to just play as nothing to play for.

    We can’t predict any results at all. We can presume the worst and go for 3 defeats but nobody can categorically state we will lose all 3, we could easy have a 45 mins like west brom game and be 3 up and out of site by half time…or we could play 90 mins like liverpool and be done for….lets just wait and see.

  • 511 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Nearly gave me a heart attack

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4909032/Alan-Pardew-Im-the-right-man-for-Newcastle.html

  • 512 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    my computer says yes for that lineup!

  • 513 kevymartins // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    My team

    Imo we need to convert back to good old fashioned 4-4-2

    _________eliott_________
    simo____colo__saylor___haidara

    _Benarfa___cabaye___sissoko___Jonas

    ____________cisse___gouff

    When is santon and marv back? also could swap gouff for shola to give some sheer power and tiote for sissoko

  • 514 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    yo-yo

    we have relied too much on the french league…need to expand.

    Poland, austria, germany, spain, portugal, other easter european countries and couth america are packed with talent….if we are to keep buying cheap but good players we must expand more around europe.

  • 515 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    no more blaa blaa blaa…3 games fight fight fight!!!

  • 516 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    santon is back for 2013-2015

  • 517 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    See Pards is looking to Colo get him some on pitch leadership. I hope Sissokho and Mbiwa come through and show they can do that too, as they settle a bit more into the EPL.

  • 518 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    …………..scum and diggers…ruined my life..i cant stand this feeling…if our team doesnt show any spirit……………!!!!!!!! Im so tired!!!!!

  • 519 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Beattie @ 487

    When were any of us ever objective :) ?

  • 520 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    “I think Colo’s important this week, no disrespect to the two centre-halves who played against Liverpool.
    “I think his leadership is important. Hopefully, he comes through this week, and we can get him out on the pitch with the armband on.”

    Well done Pardew, nice to see you are pinning your hopes and ours on a man who doesn’t even want to be here, at least he’s consistent, deluded, but consistent

  • 521 Dennis Twice // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    …..im drunk now and tomorrow and d after…like yesterday…

  • 522 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Im a big fan of Band B’s posts and she said something interesting about the leak to the press on the cliques in the dressing room,what a perfect way to pave the way to clear out the bad apples like Cabaye and HBA.

  • 523 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    I’d rather have Steve kean as manager than pardew.

  • 524 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    The only manager worse than pardew would be Steve Bruce.

  • 525 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    TimKrulFan

    Despite the fact that Steve Kean, and his deluded sense of arrogance is a better shout than Pardew? Could be similar to him but certainly not better.

    Also Bruce is taking an average bunch in Hull pretty close to promotion so he isn’t a terrible manager.

    To be fair I wouldn’t want either.

  • 526 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Same old faces on a Geordie blog…same old delusions, disillusionment and dunces.

    Listen to Gary Neville fellow fans, he is the only pundit with the backbone to speak the TRUTH on Ashley’s poison regime.

  • 527 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Picking through the disastrous position our club is in, 3 predictions:
    Next August, NUFC manager is Pardew
    Next Saturday, the highly talented but stupendously out of form Cabaye is dropped
    Next August, NUFC start 4th consecutive season in the Premier League

  • 528 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Hope after the QPR game we are safe and then we can leave pardew back in london.

  • 529 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    I think there is a short term and long term problem here.

    The short term is obvious, to stay up and get at least 3 points in 3 games. The coaching and playing staff are primarily responsible for that.

    I do believe Mash will address the long term issues in the Summer; perhaps with a new coaching team and certainly with some new players. The specifics are obviously dependent on where we are playing our football next season.

    Mash can influence the short term – by perhaps sacking Pards – but this is a highly risky move and did not work out last time around so you could forgive him for being hesitant.

    Sad days for sure.

  • 530 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    i just needed 4 wins out of 4 to remain in the top division on fifa and newcastle got all 4 for me…culminating in a 6-0 thrashing of dortmund.

    Just a game but i’ll consider it a sign.

  • 531 davis_toons // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    “I spoke with Sir Alex Ferguson today and he’s had this problem with Twitter before.
    “We’re now following the guide that Sir Alex has said they have done [at Manchester United].

    There’s something that Sir Alex have have not told Pardew.

  • 532 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Thessalonians 5:14 And we urge you, brothers, admonish the idle encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all.

    Lets back the boys for the final 3….put all our hatred to pardew to one side and hope we come though. Lets face it, he is here until the end of the season.

  • 533 BigKirky // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    bzak12 – just opening the imagination, with some pinpoint analogies. Donnng. He just doesn’t learn…

  • 534 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Sage
    We definatly need to expand away from France mate spot on, maybe a quick stop for belhanda if we stay up ;)
    But yeah there’s a whole market out there and surely we have more than one scout!
    We’ve well and truly put all our eggs in one basket and no offence to the French league it’s not the strongest tbf

  • 535 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    TS, well we should at least back them all from now until after the West Ham game and reflect.

    At least we have 3 shots right now and not 1

  • 536 Ian Toon // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Munster Mag — How are you? I do recall our friendly chats and stand by what I have consistently posted. You will have read my recent posts I know so I won’t go through them yet again. The main point I have been stressing is that there is a collective responsibility for the mess were in. I itemised the areas where Ashley, Llambias, Pardew and the players have been found wanting. I have learnt in my young life that you can’t take anything for granted and have to keep working at doing the right things if you are going to succeed. Not investing at the start of the campaign was a major error particularly when the top sides we had been competing with last season did. The problems in assimilating so many new players in January proved Ferguson and Wenger right on the best timing for signings. This allied to injuries and losing Coloccini ( our best defender) and Ba ( our best ST) proved difficult to contend with. The Benfica performances were impressive as was the Europa campaign. We were subsequently humiliated in the Mackem and Liverpool games but could have been out of sight by half time in the WBA game. In many ways I see the pressure on the team at present being less away from home. I do not think we will be relegated but come what may we need a root and branch investigation into what has gone wrong. I remain of the opinion that it is far to simplistic to just blame Pardew who stays until at least our fate is determined. I don’t see any winners and losers just losers in all of this.
    Certainly Pardew should have faught his corner last summer on the games to be played and the number and quality of the squad.

  • 537 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    I want Hughton back will never know why he was sacked surly he was on less money than pardew.

  • 538 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    Indian
    I’d rather we were safe so we didn’t need a result in the arsenal game

    Lads we need to forget about pardew, ignore his interviews if they wind you up or whatever because he’s not going anywhere this season
    We need to support the whole team were all in this fight together

  • 539 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    TADS

    AMEN

  • 540 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    tads

    Agree that we all need to back everyone come kick-off on Saturday, however, please allow us to bitch and moan until then ;)

  • 541 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Come On BVB09

  • 542 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Really hope Dortmund batter Madrid tonight

  • 543 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Jack
    B1tch away my friend ;)

    Jack/Indian
    Dortmund are the German mags!! There currently my ‘safe place’ where all this seasons troubles magically disappear

  • 544 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Gbs
    have you got any links on Gary Neville s views on our poisonous owners regime
    Ian Toon
    good post once you took your tongue out of Munsters bum.

  • 545 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Jail

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/genius-punditry-gary-neville-discusses-the-problems-at-newcastle-united/?

  • 546 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    tads

    the french are renowned for their technical ability and speed but not strength. A perfect example of this is rugby, pass and move so fast and look brilliant but sometimes just can’t cope with the power of other nations, but when they win it is a true spectacle.

    With the prem leaague being very pace and power based I think we need to look to eastern europe for technical yet strong players. May not have the grace of ribery, ben arfa, zidane, etc but they are very solid, hugely competitive and also more than good enough on the ball (lewendowski being the prime example).

    We need to get the balance.

  • 547 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    tads

    Dortmund are a side that are run on a tighter budget than us, proof that it can work for us if we have the right man in the dug-out

  • 548 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    I’m still hurting so so bad, so god knows how you local lads feel!

    Can’t believe Pardupe is still in charge, if he plays the same crap philosophy and system against WHU then he doesn’t deserve to be sacked… a shooting would suffice more!

  • 549 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    JB

    Good call m8, they simply sell for big dough and reinvest in well scouted, tried and tested younger players at the top level, I suppose that’s a benefit of half the club owned by fans!

  • 550 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    “They want identity they want soul…the soul, the identity, the heart’s been ripped out of this club, it’s gone too far, far too far in my opinion…it sounds like a good deal…value for money…an easy quick fix but it’s gone too far”

    If Kevin Keegan had said these words he’d be cited as doing so through bitterness. If Alan Shearer said these words many would be quick to point to his inability to save us from relegation yet Gary Neville said these words-a bloke who can not be linked to NUFC in any way as having an agenda, however tenuous, yet never a truer word was said.

    Shame Neville didn’t go the full nine yards in pointing out that it is Mike Ashley who is the thief. It is Mike Ashley who stole our identity and mitigated the crime with his lies and propaganda. A new generation of toon fans have been bred who deny this greedy pilfering of our club and traditions. There’s loyalty and there’s slavery, just ask the Punjabi orphans who stitch his cheap, nasty sportswear and those of you who feed the cow, propagate your own perpetual suckling on the sour milk of mediocrity.

  • 551 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    jack

    difference with dormund is they might go out and buy 1 or 2 for 10-20mil euro.

    they spent 17mil euro on reus….we need to do that. It’s fine getting most players for 2-5mil but sometimes you need to go that bit further for that extra bit of quality you need right away.

  • 552 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    TS

    The French are lovers… not fighters i’m worringly and ashamedly suggesting!

  • 553 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Sage

    Agree but there are a few players here that i would be willing to sacrifice if it meant reinvesting that money on proven players, and the big money that Dortmund spend is only what they make from selling their players for top prices

  • 554 LGFUAD21 // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Have to say, Gary Neville may had made a half truth but he overlooked so many factors.

    1 overpriced English players.

    2 how did wenger and all those Chelsea managers manage a team of foreign players?

    The problem is not the players even if they don’t seem to have the fight. Pardew is not giving them belief. He is not iron out their flaws. He is not setting the team up to its full potential.

    People naming Di Matteo are in denial as well. He did ok with a team full of talent. It doesn’t take a genius to park a bus against Barcelona. I’m sure even mark Hughes can do it.

    We need someone with tactical prowess. Would rather have billy Davies than pardew or di Matteo. At least he can get a mediocre squad playing to their strengths.

    I really would kill to see what a tactician could do with our squad.

  • 555 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    krul

    the french are big fighters throughout history. They had a huge empire, fought to change their country (revolution) and are a very proud national people who defend themselves.

    Not sure if this translates to modern day footballers but historically they are a tough, determined people.

  • 556 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    jack

    for me the key is to not be afraid to lose big player. You need to make sure you scout and develop your own well enough you have somebody in line to take over as soon as somebody leaves.

    Our problem seems to be when people leave, big players or squad player, then we seem to take an age to replace if we do at all.

  • 557 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    GoalsBring Smiles

    BOOM!!!!!!!!!!

  • 558 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    TADS

    Have you removed the color from your TV

  • 559 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Sage

    come the summer if we are offered anywhere near 40 million for tiote and cabaye, i’d snap their hands off for it, but you’re right we need to reinvest straight away and not dither as we did after Carrol and Ba left

  • 560 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    goals bring smiles

    Not sure exactly what ashley’s agenda is. I can’t decide if I think he genuinely wants to build the club but just isn’t sure exactly how so keeps making mistakes or if he is selling it as that but wanting to just keep costs down and have it as a self sufficient advertising machine for sports direct.

    Jan was a big sign he wanted to keep in the league but the summer will determine if he wants to take us on or settle, so i reserve judgement until august 31st.

  • 561 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    jack

    it’s also no good selling on the final day, unless you prepare for it by buying earlier in the window.

    Indian

    good point, if you watch in black and white and mute the tv can pretend we are playing madrid…mind you the way dortmund are defending it could well be us.

  • 562 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    TS

    That’s deep! they did come to Ireland to aid the fight against the british in the 1700’s and surrendered then… lokks like we have differing opinions on French fighting spirit (btw I don’t blame the French players for our current plight), but given the nature of their involvement in ‘wars’, IMO they were a nation always getting bailed out by more notable nations!

    Agree to disagree, this could go off on a tangent! ;-)

  • 563 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    http://epltalk.com/2013/04/29/gary-neville-explains-whats-gone-wrong-at-newcastle-united-video/

    As I say in my second post above Neville doesn’t go so far as to call MA poisonous, that is of course my own opinion however, he does hint in as far as he can on national television at the crux of the problems our club is facing and I don’t believe he is just talking about our fetish for the french

  • 564 LGFUAD21 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Sage

    “tads

    the french are renowned for their technical ability and speed but not strength. A perfect example of this is rugby, pass and move so fast and look brilliant but sometimes just can’t cope with the power of other nations, but when they win it is a true spectacle.

    With the prem leaague being very pace and power based I think we need to look to eastern europe for technical yet strong players. May not have the grace of ribery, ben arfa, zidane, etc but they are very solid, hugely competitive and also more than good enough on the ball (lewendowski being the prime example).

    We need to get the balance.”

    Zidane has a ton of ball strength. And hba is probably one of our better ball keeper especially when you consider he tries to do a lot more than most on the pitch.

    The problem is in the coaching. Too slow a tempo for a team with our technical ability.

    An isolated striker that has scored some crucial and wonderful goals this season but is absent for the most part or offside. Doesn’t even challenge defenders or find his own space.

    Our defence is under far too much pressure because we sit back. You can’t expect a defence to hold that much pressure. Every failed attack by good opposition is a chance to pin point our weakness.

    Off the ball movement is woeful. Nobody ver has options unless Marveaux and hba are playing.

    Jonas has been more concerned with running into nothing like he’s running the clock down, winning fouls and throws.

    No team fears us because we never attack and we don’t have the firepower to.

    Colo in dm is not a bad shout.

    Gouffran should be played more advanced. I bet him playing off Shola would be way more effective than an isolated cisse.

    And those trashing Anita are clearly still thinking he is a dm. He again encourages tempo in our game. Is hard to mark, has a ton of stamina, closes players down and picks out the simple pass keeping the pressure on. He is also another player that makes himself available.

  • 565 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    LGFUAD 2-0 down away to barca 10 men and drawing 2-2 is not luck.

  • 566 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Indian magpie
    You know it mate!!! The toon vs Madrid tonight
    Howard Webb doing his best to slow down a cracking game

  • 567 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    krul

    they gave us english our fair share of thumpings in historic wars and built one of the largest empires the world has ever seen.

    We will agree to disagree though before we bore everyone haha.

    But i don’t blame them either, the club new the risks bringing them in, if you have any group in a dressing room who are strong they will challenge the manager if they dnt agree with him and i think they seem to have pounced on this chance to have a go at pardew.

    hard to say if its just to get rid of him or if they are challenging him to change the tactics, i’m not sure….none of us can be. I hope its the latter and pardew sits and talks to them.

    It happens in other sports, coach and captain discuss and work plans together, no good a coach giving plans when the captain can see they aren’t working, you need a strong captain to raise this with management.

  • 568 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Dortmund need pardew he would kill this tempo in seconds

  • 569 LGFUAD21 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    The key to unlocking an organised team like west ham will be to either play at such a tempo we can stretch them (which we’ve not done since WBA nearly a year ago so can’t see it happening again)

    Or to use our smarter players like Marveaux, Anita and hba to play in the tight spaces keeping the ball, juggling the defence, frustrating them until we can unlock them.

    W could maybe try threading a ball to cisse rather than delivering it in the air.

  • 570 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    It doesn’t matter what nationality you are to have fight its about your character.

  • 571 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    This is the impact a good manager can have on players

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4QJX_PBGs

  • 572 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    LGFUAD21

    Not saying the french don’t have strength but they have less or less have it that from other nationalities.

    Not saying hba and zidane aren’t strong when keeping the ball, all about positioning and making sure you cant lose it without being fouled but in terms out grit and power in midfield they seem to lack compared to the germans for example.

    Obvious the problems you list re the reasons for our poor season, just i think to go forward we need a mix of different qualities in the team.

  • 573 LGFUAD21 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    LGFUAD 2-0 down away to barca 10 men and drawing 2-2 is not luck

    I’m not saying it was luck. I’m saying di Matteo like pardew last season could motivate his team but people need to stop acting like it was a tactical master stroke from the guy.

    We beat a good Barcelona under dalglish, is he a genius manager?

  • 574 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    tim krul

    this is true, its down to upbringing, personal traits etc having fight.

    I was just generalising…a lot of countries have gone through hard times and they have a certain national pride/passion built into them which is passed on for generations….some countries have it more than others depending on their past.

  • 575 check the toastie // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    So now Gary Neville is the Oracle on all things NUFC, he hasnt got a clue, does he have a season ticket? has he watched our terrible football since Pardew was appointed? No he isnt and no he hasnt!!!

    Manc W#nker should keep his huge nose out of something he has no idea about and people thinking he is some sort of Sage should give there head a shake. He is a good pundit but knows nowt about our club.

    Pardew is to blame for the inept performances and the utter dross and stupid team selections. We are in this position due to one man and one man only, how some of you can discuss this until you keyboards are worn out is unbelievable, if he was sacked and replaced at Xmas we would be safe and potentially top 8.

    Pardew is the cause of all our grief, the man is inept and wouldnt get this squad out of the championship he is that bad.

    If he doesnt have a Big Target man upfront he has no idea on how to pass and move the ball up the pitch.

    Thats why he persists in playing Sissoko up there, as he sees him as having ‘presence’ the man is a complete balloon, and whichever way you want to try and blame other people involved in the club, all this shite should lay at Pardicks door. He is useless, always has been.

    Expect to see Shola at the weekend.

    F##king Useless Cu#t……..

  • 576 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    It’s all down to whether the manager can get the players to believe and to fight for the team. Wenger had no issue doing it when they were playing some of the best football in the game

  • 577 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    lgfuad21

    Yeh exactly. Di matteo did well but if messi scored the penalty (as he does 9 times out of 10) chelsea would have been out probably and nobody would call him a good manager, its very fine margins.

    also players dictated a lot there, terry/lampard/cole/drogba all just had the sider revert to murinho’s game plan they used when he was there and i think it looked like di matteo just fed off this and allowed them to do it.

  • 578 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    IF Pardew were the Madrid manager

    He would have had a right good go in the last 15 – 20 minutes

  • 579 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    TS – Maybe some late night blogging with a beer or 2 the History of France could raise it’s head again and we could discuss why we agreed to disagree, but your right, it would bore the mind of the most ardent History student! haha

    I do think you make a great point though about the French in the team not wanting to implement Pardew’s inept tactics thus giving the current scenario!

    Very good point

  • 580 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    check

    do you find it odd though that this useless balloon (i like that) sometimes sets us up to play high, tempo, up the pitch and we look great….but then for whatever reason makes them drop off and he can’t understand how it doesn’t work.

    I just don’t get why we play the 1st half at west brom like we did then go back to defensive…he must know defensive just doesn’t work as we can’t defend.

  • 581 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    TS

    The French rugby side are very strong indeed and have a reputation for gouging so I don’t agree with your stereotype.
    Do agree we need to search other national upandcoming players for new bargains.

  • 582 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    TS

    You are entitled to be undecided, of course. I made my decision a long time ago on MA however, and some of the older posters on the blog may recall so. I personally have no doubt that his ownership is, always was and always will be a commercial venture, where footballing success is a happy consolation of good business or as you put it ‘a self sufficient advertising machine for sports direct.’

    For me January was a bad sign of proof of the above-because his spending spree was reactive. I was not at all surprised to read DL’s claim that we ‘brought forward’ signings intended for the coming summer, that’s ‘what we can do': that’s how these guys role. Does this mean that the lack of investment last summer was intended? If not then surely the spin on January’s transfers would have been more an acceptance of error as oppose to comments which seemingly forestall us fans’ expectations for the coming transfer window? They are probably laughing in their faux gras as I type.

  • 583 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    krul

    pure speculation by me on the little media story today, not claiming to know anything more than anyone here. Just the way it’s reported looks like cabaye seemed to lead the french boys against pardew when they may have argued as cabaye is trying to do best for the club by getting our game changed.

    indian

    you do pardew a disservice, madrid are 4 down so he would attack with 25mins to go haha.

  • 584 check the toastie // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Arsenal’s invincibles team front six at times,

    ….Pires…..Viera….Petit…Wiltord…
    ……………..Henry..Berkgamp………

    All thus saying the french lack physical presence and fight are talking shite, and the Rugby analogy is crap as well, some of the strongest packs in club rugby are french. However the French are tempermental and can soon down tools in protest to stupid instructions, it has happened many times when they have balloons managing their national sides.

    We have a total Balloon in charge and thus the Frenchies are probably thinking ‘Vive la Revolution’.

    I dont blame them one bit, and if we stay up and Parsnip goes it will be all worthwhile, as his sacking was inevitable at some point.

  • 585 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    yo-yo

    gauging is strength…i just mean when you look at size compared to england, wales, new zealand etc they are usually all a little smaller.

    The are more skill and pace based I have found over the years,

  • 586 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    men gauging isn’t strength

  • 587 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Sergio Ramos is almost as clumsy as Saylor

  • 588 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    FFS, Neville is guessing just like everyone else. He may have a more educated guess but he is far from the Oracle on Newcastle united.

    For sure, a lack of investment was a mistake in hindsight – I don’t think they quite anticipated the extent of the injuries and they thought they had youth who would come through but did not.

    Regardless though, Pardew’s tactics routinely bewilder fan and pundits alike. Additionally, the team looks disorganised and somewhat disinterested.

    He was not dealt the best cards but, him and the whole coaching staff could and should have done better.

  • 589 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    yeah timkrulfan we should never have got shed of Hoots.

  • 590 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    What did Neville say?

  • 591 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    goals bring smiles

    I’m not sure, they are proud men (or at least arrogant) so won’t like t admit mistakes even if we all see them, like last summer’s window.

    I think it was reactive, we might have only got a coupe of those if in a stronger position but at least they did something, tried to get enough to keep us safe.

    I think it all comes down to this summer, last summer could have been a genuine mistake but if he makes that mistake 2 in a row its not a mistake, he is not incompetent, he learns quickly so a poor summer shows 100% lack of intent.

    But i do have some questions. If he genuinely wants us to be self sufficient then why do we not radically improve the academy, top coaches not just local blokes, why doesn’t he appoint a football director to work on the football side and help guide llambias on the football side (llambias is ok for business side)…there are a lot more things he could do, which wouldn’t cost the world but improve the set up massively.

  • 592 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Neville’s comments are typical of someone who only looks in on whats happening every now and then. He has no true understanding of what is happening at the club, he doesn’t see the persistent selection of players that are playing poorly, the ineptitude of the managers tactics and as always it’s easy to point the finger at Johnny Foreigner

  • 593 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Transfer Sage @560
    “Not sure what Ashley’s agenda is”
    I don’t think it is very difficult to address MA’s agenda. We know he ain’t a geordie and has no ties whatsoever with the North East. We know he is a football fan. Most of all, we know he is a self-made billionaire.
    We also know he is very close to Spurs/their Directors/their business philosophy.
    Having secured an immense fortune he (hitherto reclusive) decided to have a bit of fun. His snapping up of NUFC from bankrupt owners was impulsive (since when does a businessman as phenomenally succesful as MA buy a business without doing due diligence?) and his “can’t believe it” price of £130m soon turned out to be £230-285 m once he’d seen what he’d got. He bought it for fun at what seemed a ludicrously cheap price. He made disastrous mistakes, because football is his hobby, not his business. NUFC are his toy. He has overcome his mistakes and has also overcome Fat Freddie’s mistakes, in making NUFC financially sound (except for the huge zero-interest loan he gave us, which is what is keepong us afloat, never mind in the Premier League).. Because of his mistakes, and our justifiable hatred of them, he put his now poisonous toy on the market. At a loss. (Think about that). No takers. So, he’s stuck with us. So, he applies correct business acumen and turns our finances around. There is no football owner who does not admire what he’s done. He has a long-term view, now he can’t get out short-term. When the time comes, he will sell us at a huge profit, because NUFC will be worth many times more than what they were wqhen he bought. The only way he can secure that profit is by getting the finances right (job done) and making us a desirable property by success on the field, and a staff of talented, young, sale-able players. He did not expect us to reacj 5th laast year, nor did me, you nor anybody on the planet. So he didn’t see the need for more than marginal strenghtening in the summer (he DID strengthen). Like everybody else, he is gobsmacked by how useless we have been this season. Questions have to be asked of the manager, but there again, it was the same manager and nobody else who got us to 5th last year (hence the long-term, but short-term potential pay out for the sack, contract)

    MA wants NUFC to be as successful as possible on the field. He is in no hurry. If he gets it right he will have a lot of fun (this is what he expected at first, but c**ked it up big time) and make hundreds of millions £ profit. 4or 5 years down the line.

    Irrespective of our dreadful season, none of the above seems mysterious, neither does his agenda.

    Of course, I have been wrong before…………….

  • 594 valle // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    check… Petit were long gone when the invincibles won the league

  • 595 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    God I hate Madrid with a passion

  • 596 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    p

    Do you believe that our football club in how it is ran, presented and maintained is truly representative of the traditions of Newcastle as a city? Do you feel that the passion at boardroom level matches ours? Do you think DL and MA understand the Geordie people?

  • 597 Novocastrian66 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Gary Neville was generalising when talking about the influx of foreign players. It is a worry for the whole of English football. Nobody questioned the quality of our January signings or had an issue where they are from until now.
    The fact is we’ve been shit all season. Perhaps our balance isn’t right but I firmly believe that the problems at Newcastle are more deep rooted than where the players come from.
    He is using Newcastle to highlight his xenophobic opinion. It would be great if England was rich in football talent as Spain, Germany and yes even France are but we’re not.
    As for Ashley saying he will spend big if we stop up? It’s a bit like me saying I’ll buy a yacht if I win the Euro millions.

  • 598 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    9

    I tend to swing towards the view of he is good for the club and does want us to do well just hasn’t sought enough guidance and isn’t getting things right as often as he should

    Like i said above this summer will give me my view one way or another as to what he wants us to be so i will not pass a judgement until then.

    Also I don’t buy the fact he saved us from going out of busines…look at the total mess pompey were in and they have stayed in business, albeit after a few relegations…we were here before and we will be here after ashley.

  • 599 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    TS
    The gouging thing is the French scrum being very very dirty indeed. – not surrendering but attacking in any way they can. Their club rugby is much stronger than England’s by a party mile so your comment about strength and determination is a stereotype – so a half truth only.

    I don’t buy the national stereotypes at all – conveneient but simplistic – I mean there are plenty of very well skilled UK footballers and our stereotype is strength over skill

  • 600 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    9, I think that is good commentary.

    You missed the bit where he tried to address the mistakes of Summer by being supportive in the January window. On the face of it he was still sticking to his plan, just bringing certain signings forward (as opposed to panic buys) at a greater cost.

  • 601 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    NOVO

    absolutely – spot on

  • 602 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Novocastrian66 /

    Neville must believe that everyone has the financial clout to pay stupid money for British players, when the majority simple don’t. There’s a reason we go abroad for players when the like’s of Zaha cost 15 million

  • 603 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Madrid may well be one of the biggest clubs in world football, but jeez what a team of moaning whinging cheating little c**ts!!’

  • 604 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    GBS, No, I think the way Shepherd and Keegan are more in keeping in the traditions of the City.

    But look where that got us.

    A good night out on the toon but waking up skint and with a hangover only to find out we got some minger pregnant.

  • 605 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    novo

    I don’t think it’s xenophobic, just misguided.

    People harp on about too many foreign players being why we have no good kids or a poor national set up, its rubbish. We have no good kids as we as a nation select the biggest or quickest kid and too many coaches are living in the past and can’t work with smaller, more skillfull kids, it’s poor.

    We had a high percentage of English players in the league before 1990 and in our whole history of football as a country we have only ever competed in 1 world cup or european championship final and that was 1966 where we won it.

    Not like we were a dominant force before the influx of foreign players.

  • 606 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    tads

    the antics of some of their players is sickening

  • 607 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    9 @ 593

    That summary of Mashley – could be any number of business owners of football clubs – is the best argument I have seen for the German 50 + 1 system that prevents these megalomaniacs taking control.

  • 608 check the toastie // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    TS – spot on there with the high tempo up the pitch stuff, Man Utd away, Arsenal Away we were great, however we conceded goals. It seems Pardew has no idea what to do through any part of any game, he is a true loony tune. Fell sorry for him really so out of his depth its untrue.

    Indian – spot on with the Madrid analogy.

  • 609 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    yo-yo

    a stereotype is never universally true but does have some truths otherwise it wouldn’t have originated and stuck..plenty break the mold though i do agree.

    And french club rugby is strong in the sense of it’s hugely competitve and their teams do well in cups when competing with other nations…i just mean strength as in physical and sheer size….they are powerful as in driving runs but not huge, strong blokes like you get from britain and new zealand.

    They are technically good and some of the best are french.

  • 610 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    That succession of Dennis Twice posts brings to mind the scene in Apocalypse Now where Martin Sheen on RnR in a Ho Chi Minh hotel room drinks alone and unravels emotionally with harrowing effect, finally shattering his own reflection in a full length mirror with a single punch and collapsing in a bloody heap in soiled Y fronts.

    Dennis Twice further cements himself as the blogs most enigmatic poster.

    Wonderful stuff!

  • 611 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    http://hereisthecity.com/2013/04/29/should-newcastle-sack-pardew-and-hire-rafa-benitez/?

  • 612 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    gbs,
    I agree mate good post,i listened to it twice and definitely heard GN call him poisonous so that backs up your opinion in my books.
    9,
    you’re are assuming that Mike Ashleys disastrous decisions starting in 2007 aren’t going to get us relegated a second time before making this huge profit you cite,and no hindsight didn’t even come into it when faced with an EL campaign we actually got rid of three first teams and brought in one established player wtf does hindsight come anywhere near that,you cannot build a team of internationals on bonus schemes and start the season telling them you want mid table.

  • 613 t00ntime // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    I understand the hate for AP and agree unless he does something crazy now (like we beat arsenal 5-0) he should go in the summer. But a few of you pick sentences out of his interviews then miss out important parts and use it against him…
    AP said its good Colo is coming back. Of course it is, he is our best CB. But people complain about AP saying that.
    Then someone else complained about that AP said we are going to be relegated and need to make sure our last game in this division is a good one. Failing to mention that he was Charlton manager when he said it, and they were already 100% relegated. So there was nothing wrong with what he said.

    There are more examples, no I’m not defending him cause I wouldnt mind seeing the back of him, but dont make stuff sound worse to get more hate.

  • 614 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    check

    i don’t blame pardew, he will see he is not doing well so will be doing what he thinks is best to put it right, its admirable but he just can’t do it.

    I just think though we dominated west brom for 45 mins…why we can’t play like that every week for 90 mins, or at least try to, obviously some times we will be stopped.

    I just think most teams don’t have the quality of man utd or even arsenal to put us to the sword….we need to attack west ham and qpr and we can win them both if we do, just not sure we will.

  • 615 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    TS

    You wouldn’t want to meet Chabal on a dark night mind… :)

  • 616 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    I can understand Arabs and Russians lack of enthusiasm in articulating their position and intentions to fans but Ashleys total silence has been poisonous and suggests contempt and disdain. Some toy.

  • 617 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    Transfer Sage;
    A technical point “I don’t buy the fact he saved us from going out of business” and reference Pompey. I have no desire to strike an argument, but the fact is we were mortgaged up to the hilt, going nowhere, and in an absolutely dire financial situation. As a result, solely and exlusively, of MA, now we ain’t. The fella has to be given credit for that : it’s a known fact.

  • 618 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    P @604

    Priceless!

  • 619 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Who the player at our club with the most fight? I’d say Tiote.

  • 620 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    TimKrulFan

    the two players with the most fight are Tiote and Saylor and both are liabilities

  • 621 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Jack butler
    That Ramos is a dirty little fcuker, leads with his arm everytime!!

    t00ntime
    It’s sad that even in the untenable position he’s in some people still need to attempt to falsify facts!
    Where’s the point he’s done for

  • 622 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Jail:
    Come on, we most certainly didn’t get rid of 3 first-teamers. Leon Best Danny Guthrie Lover, none of them first teamers, none. And I’m sure there’s a story behind Guthrie, wish I knew what it was.

  • 623 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    And why start partnering with loan sharks? Its like a story made up from a mash up Blade Runner and the Wall Street.

  • 624 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    sven bender – genius name

  • 625 Novocastrian66 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    GoalsBringSmiles; what Premier League Club is truly representative of the local community? Not many, if any. Top level professional football is no longer restricted to the provincial domain. It’s global and for Newcastle to even compete in the Premier League we need an owner with deep pockets. There aren’t too many Geordie philanthropists queuing up to buy the club and take it forward. Civic pride is a good thing and the identity of the club should always be linked to the City however no club in Europe with perhaps the exception of Barcelona is a true mirror of the local community anymore.

  • 626 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    yo-yo

    i wouldn’t even want to run into a small rugby player on a dark night, still bigger than me haha.

    9

    i’m glad he has done some things like cut the wage bill, stop spending on past it players etc…thats all good and credit for that.

    We might have been heavily mortgaged but a lot of clubs are, we weren’t ever in danger of going under, only people who say that at ashely/llambias to make them look like saviors.

  • 627 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    If Ash could go back in time you’d like to think he’d do things differently, but do you think he’d still buy the Toon?

    I think he’ll go as soon as he get’s a fair offer and will leave us in better condition than he found us.

    I’m in love with the Toon, but even I would be beside myself if I were him.

    Buyer beware.

  • 628 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Sawbuck

    we have a multi-billionaire allowing his club to be sponsored by loan sharks while sunderland have a fascist manager and are sponsored by invest in africa……………………..you couldn’t make it up

  • 629 t00ntime // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    @tads exactly. why try and make good things sound bad when you can just mention the last 2 home games… aw well.

  • 630 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    p

    Thanks for sharing your personal experience of the 90’s however irrelevant. So are you saying that you prefer the current blend of football and passion to that produced by Keegan and SJH (and much later Shepherd)?

    I took your advice and looked ‘where that got us’ and realised much to my astonishment that KK and SJH, in their preposterous passion and pride in Newcastle, Newcastle United and the Geordie people, ‘got us’ to the stature of the club we are now and not only that but done so by providing the entertaining passion-fuelled football we all desire, almost (yes only almost) bringing glory and success to St James’. Dear god, I only wish it all never happened, that way I might have nothing in which to compare the current dire state of affairs.

  • 631 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    9

    losing best, guthrie and lover meant we had to rely on bigi, sammy and fergie….i’d take the first three over them everytime, experience is key.

  • 632 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    How Dortmund are not 1-0 up I don’t know

  • 633 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Jack

    You’re right you couldn’t.

    What a balls up the whole thing is. Compare us to the German clubs….

  • 634 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    tads

    How Ramos ever finishes a game i don’t know as he’s one of the dirtiest little f**kers I’ve ever seen play

  • 635 toon22 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    my team

    Harper
    Simmo Colo Williamson Mbiwa
    Bigirimana Perch
    Gosling Sissoko Marveux

    Cisse
    it means we arnt playing Taylor as Carrol hates him (dont give him a targert)
    Williamon has a chance against the high balls
    But mostly its not the team thans been so absmal latley,we have to change things drastically.
    Lets face it the usual teams going to get us religated arnt they.
    Anita is the one that misses out as i think hes too small to be defensive he needs to be up the field where hieght dont matter so much imo

  • 636 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    jack

    you can’t can you, talk about irony. I will boycott the new shirt though, wonga are a disgusting company who should get as little attention as possible. Also 8mil is hardly worth selling your soul for.

    Goals bring smiles

    Whats better though?

    years or great football, pushing for the title, cup finals and champs league football (JOHN HALL/SHEPHERD)

    or

    reading those accounts what show we turned a profit? (ASHLEY)

  • 637 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    jack

    and ramos isn’t even that dirtiest player…that belongs to pepe after his antics the other week

  • 638 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    TS
    Seem to have slipped Anita from your recollection there. I can’t see how Lover is a miss, tbh.

  • 639 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    @9
    Guthrie was playing well and deserved to keep his place in the side but Pardew replaced him straight away once Tiote or Cabaye were fit.I think if it had a been you play well you keep your place he would have stayed.
    Pardew has his favourites weather there playing well or not

  • 640 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    9

    I was just saying those 3 we gave away meant that those other three had to play…anita has played as well but so have the 3 i mentioned.

    They aren’t world beaters but much better in the squad than bigi, sammy and fergi.

  • 641 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Sage

    Pepe is like an 80’s bouncer, no grace, no tact, he just like’s kicking the shyte out of people

  • 642 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    jack

    he did that last week, then followed it up with a proper punch…which ironically the player took without rolling round like when they get slapped.

  • 643 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    2011/12 season League appeareances:
    Best 16
    Guthrie 13
    Lover 2
    say no more about “first-teamers”
    By the way, can anybody in the know help out and let slip what the story was with Guthrie?

  • 644 TimKrulFan // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Guthrie was playing amazing for us when Cabaye was injured then Cabaye came back and he didn’t even get on as a sub that’s when I first raised my eyebrow to pardew.

  • 645 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    9,
    Irrelevant to how good you judge those three players two of them played an important part in that finishing fifth the fact that they were released then an admission that “we sat round and decided we had enough in the tank” just shows underneath the facade of financial astuteness the club is a fuskin shambles.

  • 646 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Guthrie has struggled to hold down a place in a nowhere near good enough Reading side and Lover and Besty are players of a similar quality.

    Hindsight is always 20/20, regardless we were right to want to replace them, just failed to do it effectively.

    Even so, those 3 aren’t any sort of cavalry in this circumstance

  • 647 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    9

    they are first team squad players though

    they could have played instead of sammy, fergie and bigi and done a better job.

    guthrie is better than bigi
    best is better than sammy, probably even shola
    lover is better than fergi

    don’t see what your point is…they were sold, members of the first team squad and not replaced properly.

    Also guthrie left as he wouldn’t sign a new contract, he was always dropped for tiote and cabaye no matter how well he had done, he wanted first team football

  • 648 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Before everyone start waxing lyrical about Sheppard, we need to remember that he almost ran this club into the ground. Under him we were a soap opera of embarrassment and i for one was glad to see the back of him.

    As for Sir John Hall I have nothing but respect for the man and what he did for us

  • 649 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    GBS – no need to get personal and offensive to make your point.

    I was merely giving you a metaphor as I am sure you know.

    We were in a nosedive as a going concern under Shepherd. If Ashley did not come in, we could have gone the way of Portsmouth.

    I don’t personally have much time for Keegan but, I have to say SBR masked the mess that we were in.

    I am not sure entirely and exactly why we have come off the rails this season – probably a bit of everything everyone is suggesting – I think not many people (though some on this blog say they did based on Pardew’s form) saw this coming after last season.

  • 650 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    jack

    shepherd did make mistakes, the guy isn’t worthy or countless praise i agree and he did make a lot of money from us. But we were never relegated under him.

    Agree n sir john hall.

  • 651 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    TS
    Don’t want to bang on, but mention of Sammy and Ferguson addresses an interesting issue, but not the issue which was at hand (did we strengthen in the summer). They were here before the summer and here after the summer, so not relevant to the strengthening in summer. We did not “lose” Best/Guth, we sold them. We “lost” Lover. We gained Anita Bigi Good. Doesn’t sound too special, I agree.

  • 652 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    TS@ 591

    Apologies I didn’t see that you’d replied until now. I agree with the last paragraph of your comment. Truly investing in the youth academy (etc.) would of course signal an intention to build towards long term footballing success, however, I fear that much like his cheaply made sportswear, he is merely stitching together many cheaply bought parts. Why wear Nike or Adidas when you can get Le Coq Sportif at a tenth of the price? it does the job, short term

    In terms of learning from past mistakes and withholding judgement until august 31st…I would ask, why did we wait so long to replace Carrol, why have we not replaced Ba? Why did it take so long to replace sol Campbell? (albeit he was past it, he was nevertheless our third choice defender). Too many risks, too many mistakes, too many august 31st’s

  • 653 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    sage

    We may not have been relegated under Sheppard but we could have ended up in liquidation or worse

  • 654 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    the guy mus’nt care he’ll take the drop with pardew sell the better players then try to sell the club

  • 655 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Surely Dortmund are a shining light in the history of club football

    They look like they are gonna earn a victory at Real Madrid ad with it a place in the Champions League, with a team that cost less than their opponents reserves.

  • 656 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    ooh conspiracy theory i think not just business accumen

  • 657 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    9

    Well we actually lost guthrie…was out of contract so left on a free after he wouldn’t sign a new deal.

    My point was merely if we had brought in more first team/squad players than anita (bigi and good were mainly for development squad, although bigi did ok when needed) we wouldn’t have had to rely on kid as much and would have been better off.

    We tried, came out in the media, for debuchy, douglas and de jong….we missed out on all then we gambled that we didn’t need them there and then and would wait until winter/next summer to get them or an alternative….it was a dangerous gamble and a one that backfired, probably worse than everyone expected.

  • 658 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Ashley put the mistakes he made in the summer right in January and earned the praise of everyone on here at the time, but that cloud still hangs over him and his stewardship of our club. For me he has this coming summer to put everything right and show what his intentions are for the club.

    Are we truly something that he wants to turn into a success?

    Or are we simply an advertising tool for his grubby little shop?

  • 659 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    There is something else…

    We were won of the original big spending clubs of the new era.

    What we did under SJH and Fat Freddie would be far harder to achieve via big spending in today’s climate. There is no Shearer either to put home town club over guaranteed success.

    Never mind the possibility of getting a world class manager and true gentleman such as SBR.

    You guys who want that, need to hope an owner of Man City’s ilk comes in and makes Mash an offer he can’t refuse.

  • 660 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    for me the writings on the wall

  • 661 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    goals bring smiles

    I think all those issues you raise are valid but we always got by…carroll went then best stepped up with 6/7 goals, sol went and we had willo and even perch make a good back 4 last year (or krul was on top form)…the mistakes never bit him in the backside.

    Last summer his mistakes really came back at him, there is no way you can hide from this season..this is why I think this is the big one…we will know this summer for definite in my eyes.

    Jack

    Yeh we could have done but we never, and only people i have heard say we were in that much mess are ashley/llambias who naturally would as it makes them look like our saviors and gives and excuse to penny pinch…might not be the case, might be genuine but i don’t trust what they say (not just them, but anyone in that situation).

  • 662 eaststandgeordie1982 // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Think we should go back to what worked.

    Elliot
    Simmo saylor colo haidara
    Cabs sissoko tiote/anita
    HBA cisse goofy

    And get at every team left from the off and not give up for one second because we as fans deserve nothing less

  • 663 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    TS
    Can’t argue with you there, sorry I forgot Guthrie was lost not sold.

    One of the interesting things about our failure this season is highlighted by your mention of Sammy and Fergie: the young uns have spectacularly shown themselves not to be ready for the first team. Tavernier gets in there, too, same story.

  • 664 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    JB @ 658 I totally agree.

    Obviously, it is easier said than done to run a successful premier league club in a sustainable way but, we need to see him try to address the issues with actions that at least seem reasonable at the time, without the benefit of hindsight.

  • 665 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    P

    I don’t mind not spending huge fees on players, just think if we are to spend cheap on players we need to make sure we bring them in at the right time and not waste a season for the sake of a couple million.

    Sometimes you can wait but sometimes you have to bite the bullet and just go for it.

  • 666 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    @transfer
    That’s Pardew to tee doesn’t matter if your playing well you don’t keep the shirt.Thats why players like Guthrie leave and there will always be un rest in a Pardew camp

  • 667 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Sage

    Neither Sheppard or Ashley would make it onto a list of preferred owners for me, but unless some oil baron comes along we are stuck with him and the way that he runs things and with the Financial Fair Play Rules in place now have hundreds of millions to spend will count for little.

    As I said, IF we get a top man to take over from Pardew and Ashley shows real intent to take us forward in the summer everything could look so much better than it does right now

  • 668 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    9

    Yeh they have been poor….when i watch the academy or reserve sides (not too often but get to some) the best player by a mile is campbell. Yet he never gets a game and the odd time he does he plays left wing (almost left back he is so deep).

    Surely the club should have known the kids weren’t good enough and ashley should have brought in a few more. Either pay more for who he wants or go to cheaper targets, but we did need a few more bodies.

  • 669 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    We might be the twentieth wealthiest club in Europe but that still leaves us well, well short of the mega rich elite.

    Toon are a real work in progress and maybe playing a losing game anyway. But hey, they are ours!

  • 670 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    hey guts what about this rumor

    A Newcastle United fan posted on our website yesterday that he believed a deal had already been done behind the scenes to sack Alan Pardew at the end of the season and bring in none other than Rafa Benitez.

    could this be true or just speculation?

  • 671 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    p

    Personal and offensive? Really? If so I apologise. I am sorry that I took your ‘metaphor’ quite literally and not as the slight against the glory years of NUFC as it was clearly intended.

    There is absolutely no proof that we were nearing the awful demise of the likes of Portsmouth under Shepherd and it is a shame that you are using this Ashley-era-construction to justify your support for a regime which characterises a total lack of footballing passion and intent. This is all a little besides the point however, I wasn’t particularly focusing on Shepherd or KK but on our current set-up and it’s complete lack of footballing ambition, passion or entertainment.

  • 672 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    @p

    To be honest all Ashley has to do is to appoint a manager that sends out the message that we are looking for success on the pitch and the allow the squad to be strengthened. If he does that everything can change very quickly

  • 673 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    jack

    Yeh, i have said all night i don’t honestly know ashleys intentions but i think this summer will show a lot of what he is about. So i will reserve my judgement until then on how good he is for us.

    He could do more but could say that about anyone.

    Daztoon

    possibly why his teams have a bad second season? first year you have players accepting been benched, good form in the team means they can’t complain they dont get a look in…then when the team underperforms or they get a run and instantly dropped tensions is created and continues to build….there is a lot of things i think pardew does which i think causes problems besides just tactics

  • 674 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    9
    If you believe we truly went with good intentions to get those three players you mentioned even after Dirks purple statement and his admission that it was a well thought out plan to go with what we’ve got,and Im not actually sure if you’re defending the decision not to strengthen but to call me out for saying that a guy who played just under half a season and another who played a third is a first teamer then its pointless debating the issues at hand.

  • 675 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Thing is people go on about the youngsters earlier in the season the most we had on the field at anyone time was Ferguson, Sammy and Tavernier and possibly Abeid on the pitch it was the senior players that let us down the whole season they also let the youngsters down because when you have players like Tiote and Jonas beside you who cant pass a ball what kind of example does that set you??

    Ferguson got stitched up by Pardew threw him in at the deep end a left back against Man Utd then never played him for 6 games then boom played him left wing and never got the ball too him for 2 games in a row and then blamed the youngsters pretty much ruining their confidence

    I actually think if we had gave Ferguson a run of about 4 or 5 games in a row he wold be making chances for Cisse on a regular basis as the left winger but no Pardew blames him and plays Jonas who has done nothing offensively in 2 years

    Its no wonder players are unhappy because Pardew does not give players a fair crack of the whip its the same old all the time and you can see that players such as Anita and Marveux dont feel valued as members with Pardew

    I tell you if by miracle we do survive and we got a top drawer manager like Benitez I could guarantee an attacking spine of Anita, Marveux, Cabaye, Arfa, Sissoko, Cisse and Gouffran would play together most games and be awesome

  • 676 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    black and white army

    Not sure really…it could be the case.

    they certainly wouldn’t say anything to the media about it until it happened, would do too much damage to the club and pardew’s authority (if any remains).

    i wouldn’t surprise me though, talks like this happen all the time in football and ashley doesn’t mess about.

    I’m out tonight with my mate from the club, i’ll see if he has heard anything around the place….got very little off him last week mind.

  • 677 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    another one

    French website Foot Mercato have reported that the French sports channel Infosport+ is claiming that Hatem Ben Arfa’s representatives have begun talks with Tottenham, regarding a move in the summer.

    As to whether there is any truth in this rumour is another matter, however the possibility of Ben Arfa going to Tottenham is being linked with the likely departure of Gareth Bale.

  • 678 Sawbuck // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    I think mash will sell cab, marv and krul whatever happens.

  • 679 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    also P,

    Robson ‘masked the mess we were in’? What? Mate, under SBR AND Shepherd, 15, 000 of us went to San Siro, Del Alpi, etc. etc. I personally watched the toon army paint the dusty ports of Marseilles black and white, dear god, if I had of known that all that time we were actually not financially sound and heading towards oblivion I would never have went along to support my awfully ran club ;)

  • 680 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    santon

    I don’t blame the youngsters…if senior lads are playing bad they can’t do anything really.

    I am blaming ashley for putting pardew in a position where he had to use them

  • 681 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    game on in madrid

    they have followed pardews tactics…keep it 0-0 then attack from 80 mins onwards…..is pardew the special on

  • 682 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Goal!!!!!! football is the shit!

  • 683 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    I F**KING HATE MADRID

  • 684 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    That’s the thing with our club there’s a total lack of passion from the owner now right through to the players.

  • 685 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Is Mourinho trying a Pardew by turning the screw after 70 mins?

    Great finish to the game!

  • 686 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    That’s some keeper Dortmund have got, have watched Dortmund keenly and the reactions on this lad are phenomenal!!

    C’mon Dortmund hold on pleeeeeeaaaaaassssseeee

  • 687 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    TS

    Come on mate, I can almost read you pulling the wool over…no offense

  • 688 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    How Sergio ‘Elbow’ Ramos is even on the pitch is beyond me

  • 689 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Beat me to it TS ;-)

  • 690 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    GBS, you got the wrong end of the stick, I would not say I support this regime. Just saying the previous one had serious flaws. McKeag was even worse.

    In an ideal world we would have the fiscal responsibility of Mash and the excitement of the previous era (obviously missing out on certain episodes such as Allardye, Souness, Daglish etc)

  • 691 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    goals bring smiles

    what post? not sure which that is meant for, i’ve posted a lot tonight haha

  • 692 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Black and white army

    I find it near on impossible to believe rafa would take the job with our league status being secured!!

    Lads just nitpicking like but I think besty can be counted as a first team player the only thing that kept him out the squad was injuries

  • 693 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    @Transfer Sage

    True but If we were not playing long ball football earlier in the season I think the youngsters could have done good the negative tactics have let us down

    But yeah Ashley should have backed him with funds but Pardew should also have pushed harder for players

    Either way both are too blame can Pardew keep us up ?Will Ashley do the right thing this summer?

    I honestly think Pardew will keep his job if we stay up whether the fans like it or not

  • 694 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    GBS, look where we have gone since SBR was sacked, regardless of owner.

    That is all I am saying.

  • 695 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    TADS

    Been watching them keenly over the past couple of year myself, and don’t know if you would agree but in DL talk they have only got what you would call 13 purples – Tonights starting 11 + Santana + Kehl… the rest of their squad are youth really makes you wonder if we could do it!

  • 696 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    JB @ 672 true but that does not mean it will happen. But it’s a start.

  • 697 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    santon

    no idea if they will keeps pards or not, would like him gone but unsure what ashley will do.

    I just don’t think the kids are that good, fergie is a decent winger but the best haven’t done well (rather campbell had a proper go as a forward not a winger though).

    But there job is made much harder coming into a struggling team

  • 698 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Webb where’s yer whistle ffs!

  • 699 BandB // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    I’ll say this now, and then when Beattie repeats it in two days time, you can all go “wow, yeah!!”
    I fancy a start for Williamson this weekend. Pardew needs him badly.
    Not on the pitch. But on the back page of the Chronicle on Monday, to tell us how much everyone is hurting (apart from those feckless Frenchmen, obviously). He’s got no credibility sounding off from the reserves, and Shola and Taylor (who have everything to lose from Pardew’s departure) are wearing thin.
    Last summer, when we were being sold a pup, I complained the club didn’t have to think of alibis, as the NUFC.Blog had plenty of people desperate to invent them. And it’s happening again.

  • 700 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    krul

    Think he did a job adding that bit extra on…dortmund tried to waste time so rightly punished for it.

  • 701 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Krul
    Me and Beattie were having this discussion the other night
    Dortmund are probably one of the best run clubs in one the best run leagues in the world
    If there’s a buisness model that Ashley wants to follow it should be Dortmund, fcuk arsenal!!!!

  • 702 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    @transfer
    I think that could well be mate.Anita was same as Guthrie playing well then just replaced by Pards favourites

  • 703 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Good-bye to the dirty, cheating diver’s

    :D

  • 704 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Tipped Ze Germans at the start, regret now not putting money on them but as much as I like this Dortmund side I think Bayern will do them in the final, though anything can happen over one 90 minute game but saying that I can see tomorrow being a great game and Barca giving the 4 down a good go!

  • 705 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    tads

    dortmund are brilliant

    just out of interest (and this for everyone else too) how do germany, with lower tv money, lower ticket ticket prices and all the great benefits (like away tickets counting as a train tickets) manage to have some great players as well.

  • 706 JackButler // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Sage

    Germany’s youth development program is arguably the best in world football, as far as I know they have in place what Holland had for years now, plus they also work very hard on developing their coaches

  • 707 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Santon
    Personally I don’t think pardew can take the blame for our youth players, the academy has been an absolute shambles for years now and we have produced any top draw youngsters or even half decent ones (barring Carroll) for ages
    For me most our current young crop are championship standard at best and really don’t think the academy staff are doing enough with development or pushing to get these lads on loan

  • 708 John Tudor // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    cheap standing

  • 709 p // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    TS – alas the Germans generally have their shit together in many walks of life

  • 710 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    jack

    yeh they do develop a lot of their own (really stepped it up 10/12 years ago) but they also bring in some great talent cheapy from surrounding countries.

  • 711 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    TS- yeah but 5 is 5!

    TADS – I’ve watched their rise from the doldrums for a while as I said, on a shoestring in relative speak, a mostly German set up with a Polish right side in Pisczek, Kuba and Lewandowski, they have another young striker coming through called Schrieber or something who is looking a good replacement for Lewa when he goes, they manage injuries and fatigue very well, bring through youth very well, fill a 70k seater every other week, serve up great football and it is all so very well thought out. Klopp gets the credit for me though, so under-rated as a tactician generally but it’s how they have done it slowly and sustainably, they sold Kagawa for 17m odd and brought Reus who for me is a better player for 12m (say nothing about letting him go for peanuts beforehand ;-)

  • 712 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Sage
    They do it through necessity mate
    Every team in the German league had to meet strict financial checks at the start of each season to gain league registry i think, and there turn over also has an effect on what they can spend in regards to transfers and wages
    Therefore they have to develop players, they have to have a top top academy
    Also think I remember hearing about the German government invest extremely heavily in the game at grass roots to develop players the best they could

  • 713 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    tads

    very good, thanks for that, hope we can learn a lot from them.

    krul

    minimum of 5 though…if anything happens can add that on to it

  • 714 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    TS
    Germany population 81m+
    England populaion Just barely 51m
    Any clue there?

  • 715 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    TS

    It’s more a local thing, it benefits the region how the German’s set up IMO, with the only dividends for ‘stockholders’ being success… the fans own half the club, thats a DFB thing drawn up years ago, the Germans in general went back to the drawing board about 10 years ago and drew up plans to bring constant improvement, take a look at this link I read today regarding Brietner in Brazil and for me it’s bang on the money!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22336043

  • 716 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    9

    spanish population is 47mil though

    so although it gives them more of a chance to get good players as a bigger pool of players to chose from it’s not the only reason.

  • 717 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    TS – splitting hairs again m8, everything ok? haha

  • 718 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Krul
    They also re invest properly and sell at the right time when a players is at the hieght of there hype, unlike us who try to squeeze that extra season (tiote for example)
    Goetze for £33 mil is madness and I’d imagine they will get £20+ for lewandowski despite only having a year left on his contract

  • 719 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Ireland has 5m population and full off world class players ;-) (sarcasm)

    TRAPPATONI OUT TOO :-0

  • 720 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Good old ITV
    That was a master class in interview technique, put words in Mourinho’s mouth then cut the broadcast before he can answer!!!

  • 721 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Jack

    Referring to Madrid as ‘dirty cheating divers’ after Dortmund’s display of time wasting is a bit ridiculous, no?

  • 722 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    9
    You can’t base it on population size man!!
    On that theory USA Russia and China would football power houses!!!!

  • 723 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    krul

    everything is fine haha…just like it when refs don’t like time wasting slide.

  • 724 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    TADS – did you hear about Lewandowski’s proposed switch from Lech to Blackburn for 4.8m and it collapsed because of the Ash cloud, he then went Dortmund.

    Absolutely right that they sell and spend very well, and never get taken for fools or get forced into a situation, the one club you could truly say all is very well within in respect to bonds with ‘hierarchy’, ‘fans’ and ‘team’ unification

  • 725 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    TADS – I do think Goetze on the right path could be like Messi in a few years, still 20!

  • 726 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    TDS
    Every team in the world plays for time when holding out for a place in the final
    Real Madrid dive and elbow there way through every game completely different
    Plus playing for time isn’t conning the officials like reals play acting as they simply keep adding the time on, much much different to constant simulation imho

  • 727 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    TS
    Correct: Spain 47m England 51m ie no real difference. As the conversation was about Germany, which is a hugely different number, much more than 50% extra, seems a little off-task to include Spain. Would you now like to include France, Italy, Nigeria, Russia etc etc? Croatia? and so on.

    The original comment, by your own good self I believe, was why does Germany do so much better than England.
    Like you, I don’t know the answer, but I have included relevant figures. Not many people consider the Spanish population relevant to a discussion Geermany v England, surely?

  • 728 BandB // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    A few mealy-mouthed insinuations from the Wizard of Drivel, and some of you folks have bitten already.
    When we were being sold a pup last summer, I complained that the club doesn’t have to come up with alibis, as there are people on this board desperate to invent them on their behalf.
    I will say this now, so that when Beattie repeats it in two days time, you can say “yeah, wow!”
    I fancy Williamson for a game this weekend. Pardew needs him.
    Not on the pitch, but on the back page of the Chronicle on Monday, moaning about how much everyone is hurting, apart from those Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys, obviously.
    He has no platform from the reserves. Taylor and Shola are wearing a bit thin, and like them, Willo knows which side his bread is buttered on.

  • 729 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    TDS

    in respect to Real there is no place for eye gouging and cynicals challenges but grabbing the chance for a breath IMO is part and parcel, I do it at my level (even when losing) haha

  • 730 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    Krul
    Yeah remember a story on SSN about fat sam bragging about how he discovered him!!
    Don’t get me wrong goetze is a cracking little player but Dortmund have done what they do best cashed in while his stock is high instead of hold on
    Look at eriksen couple of seasons back linked with all the European super clubs, his potential hasn’t grown as fast as expected an now he’s linked for a mediocre price to Liverpool!!!

  • 731 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    9

    It is relevant…it shows population isn’t the main factor in the amount of quality produced.

    It has some impact and obviously the difference between England and Germany is not manly down to population.

  • 732 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    9

    I posted a link above which gives a very brief insight to the German footballing revolution, you might like it

  • 733 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    I’d seriously consider playing Harper, Gosling, Simmo and Shola from the start for the last 3 games, seeing as the seasons rigours appear to have rendered the more obvious picks shuffling, bewildered, catatonics.

  • 734 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    p @690

    I completely agree with your ideal world for nufc, if only eh?!! maybe we both crossed wires, shows we are all equal in our passion I suppose, I could start an argument with my dog over NUFC

    TS @ 691

    nevermind, I fear the moment has passed, I think your more towards my, dare I say it, ‘anti-Ashley’ stance than you let on is what I was getting at!

  • 735 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    TADS – Dortmund were seeking 30m+ for Goetze over the past few years with Arsenal waiting to pounce and they never would at that price, but they didn’t allow to get bullied into it and finally sold to rivals, I have no doubt they will replace adequately… my money is on Draxler at half the price and will do as good a job in their system, very much a rigid 4231 (sound familiar)

  • 736 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    goals bring smiles

    I am genuinely split…every time i think about it i lean one way then the other….really will know much more myself in the summer after i see what he does.

  • 737 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    TS

    I wish I shared your optimism and I hope MA proves me wrong but I sincerely doubt it. Then again, I can’t help but think the best before every match kicks off and usually with the help of alcohol my woes towards Ashley and co. are momentarily forgotten

  • 738 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    GBS

    I’m not sure if it’s optimism or desperation on part haha.

    But yeh before every game i think we have a chance anyway, never think we will get a stuffing.

    Right i am off boys and bandb…..chat tomorrow probably.

  • 739 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    GBS

    Becks and JD help me forget too!

  • 740 9 // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    KtbK
    Nice link, if I got the right one it speaks mainly to the (worst in living memory) Brazil team. Nobody sensible would claim population size is the only factor in football success, but, in cultures with a comparable affinity with football, it is certainly one relevant factor (so, in that sense TS is useful to include Spain, I freely admit, to that extent).

    Returning to our mutual love, I am very hopeful of 3 points on Saturday. AC is a huge NUFC supporter and has already purposely failed to score when clear against us, in my humble opinion. That’s not to say he won’t be challenging for eveything in the air. But it all depends on which NUFC turns up (not especially in personnel, more in attitude). I’m really looking forward to it, and a tiny positive from Satrurday’s disgrace , for me in deepest Sussex, it makes my rare opportunity to see NUFC live a truly meaningful match.

  • 741 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Laters TS

    I’m offski too lads

    Night y’all

  • 742 GoalsBringSmiles // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Krul

    oooosh JD yes! You can keep ya becks though, not my tipple, leaves an awful taste in my mouth. I am an ale man myself, give me a good Wylam anyday!

  • 743 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    9

    Tim Vickery every Monday on BBC sport posts a blog, highly recommend him, for me no other sport writer in the UK comes near his writings, but it is all South America.

    As for 2nd paragraph, the same crossed my mind (funny that as a toon fan this is the first decent cross I have seen all season), I don’t think either Nolan or Big AC would have it in them to help send us down when they have nought to play for.

    Really going this time, catch up tomorrow!

  • 744 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    GBS

    Becks on offer!!! haha

  • 745 Krul to be Kind // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Guinness man meself, or anything remotely heavy

    Really going now… think im on a promise

  • 746 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Krul
    Hmm Carroll maybe but if the whole forced transfer request story is true he’d love to hurt ash
    Nolan was in the Barton camp so suspect he’s not big ash fan
    Then there’s fat sam………

  • 747 ToonDownSouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Eye gauging? When on earth did eye gauging happen? And diving too – I didn’t see anyone dive in the whole game…

    You can call time wasting part and parcel of football, but plenty of people would say being rough is as well. It’s not like Ramos actually swung his elbow, he just went in roughly. And of course it’s conning the officials – if you’re rolling around pretending to need a stretcher with the intention of breaking up the game, that’s exactly what it is!

    Everyone’s a little to quick to talk about how bad big evil Madrid are, just because they were playing against Dortmund – everyone’s new favorite team. Dortmund are as bad as anyone.

  • 748 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    TDS
    Ramos led with his elbow all night!
    Ronaldo won a free kick before half time, he started falling down when Sven bender was still a good yard away from him

    It’s hardly new that Madrid are cheats, they have been for years there one of the most theatrical teams in the world along with barca

    The eye gauging that JB was referring to I’d imagine was when Ramos stepped across lewandowski no attempt to play the ball and pushed his hand straight in his face




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