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Another Set Of Possible Newcastle Strips

12:59 pm, Wednesday, May 1st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 503 Comments

We published three strips earlier this morning – home, away and third strips, that are doing the rounds on the internet – and we now have been sent by one of our readers another set of what may be our second and third strips for next season.

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Newcastle’s away and third strips for next season

The two strips shown above look a bit more authentic and a lot better than the strips we sent out earlier today, and they do have the Wonga insignia on them – although that may not mean much.

But of course, it’s hard to know whether they will be the actual strips or not.

And we’ve just been sent about another six possible strips – and they can’t all be valid – so we’ll just stick with these two.

What do you think?

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503 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Do people realise that if we didn’t pay attention to all the speculative and negative news stories, then they wouldn’t be encouraged to write them?

    The Sun says Ben Arfa is leaving – how the hell would they know?
    The Independent says that Cabaye is unhappy and that there are cliques with the French lads – really? Their journalist is in our dressing room?

    Don’t believe most of this rubbish. Truth is we’re in trouble but we are still 5 points clear and probably just 1 win out of 3 will see us safe.

    If we’re relegated then some players will leave – simple. If we’re not relegated but the dressing room is a mess then Pardew will leave – simple.

    As long as we stay up, I feel we’ll keep the majority of our players and any that leave will go for a big fee.

  • 2 archaeomag // May 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Toon Toon Blue and white army!

  • 3 check the toastie // May 1, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Cakum Macmanaman is oing to score the goal that takes us down, and its all Pardew’s fault.

    Why hasnt he been sacked yet. Unbelievable.

    I cannot think of one other club who would allow there manager to still be in charge after the under performance of he team. Incredible incompentency by everybody involved. We deserve to go down based on bsing the most stupid club on history.

    When will we win something.

    Pardews team the weekend. pftttttttttt

    ………………….Harper…………………..
    Simmo…..Taylor….Collo….Perch…….
    ..Sissoko….Tiote…..Cabaye…Gutti……
    ……………….Shola….Cisse………………..

    You seen it here first. Mans a balloon……

  • 4 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    i’ll say it again:

    i cant belive some of you want rafa to be our next manager..that arogant stubborn ****.. what he did at liverpool was a disgrace.. brought every spainard avalibe..regardless of their quality & was relying solely on gerrard & torres.. not to mention his trip to inter…transfored them for the best club into..well..newcastle..in 6 months.. as a manager hes nothing special..& as a human hes an idiot.. forget him!

  • 5 NUFC_LEAZES END // May 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    nice tops them 2 are.

    I hope pardew fields a team like this on Saturday/sunday

    Elliot
    simpson taylor willo mbiwa
    ben arfa cabaye sissoko marveaux
    shola cisse

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    check,
    Mike Ashley and his cheapskate policies that hired him in the first place are just as much to blame.

  • 7 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Leazes, how you doing sir? good to see ya

  • 8 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    tube, plum, billend any of these befits ashley and llambsarse

  • 9 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Why are fans so quick to demand for someone to be sacked??

    Fergie at Utd went from 2nd in 87/88 to 11th the next season and 13th the one after that, did they sack him?

    Moyes at Everton has gone from 7th in 02/03 to 17th in 03/04 and 4th in 04/05 to 11th in 05/06. Did they sack him?

    If last season you believed that we had appointed a good management team, then you should still believe it, they haven’t changed.

  • 10 marc // May 1, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    @nightfall

    what about luis garcia he was a wicked little player
    and rafa won the champions league with them you dounut what a digrace lol!!

  • 11 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    cos pardew doesnt learn form his mistakes.. we watch same shit over & over & over & over again..

  • 12 marc // May 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    disgrace

  • 13 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    marc

    rafa won what? it was mourinho..

  • 14 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    oh you mean liverpool.. ok..2 good season..but after that it was a disgrace… bought every spainaird avalible..for staff to players.. who were shit..gerrard & torres did pretty much everything.. rafa wanted to take over at liverpool..

  • 15 marc // May 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    at liverpool mate he won the champions league against ac milan

  • 16 marc // May 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    you were talking about him buyin spanish players
    in my view they are better than the french

  • 17 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    he wont it with liverpool with players who have been playing together for years…but when owners gave him transfer budget to bring his own players.. he almost got them relegated.. forget rafa

  • 18 marc // May 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    i understand what your saying but we have pardew for god sake my nan would do the job better:)

  • 19 marc // May 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    i would say get poyet he speaks the lingo

  • 20 brian kilclines pony tail // May 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    on the point of missing out financially next season the parachute payments for relegated clubs is £60 million, thats for 4 years.

    so even if we do get relegated its wont be the end of the world.
    firstly, we are a better run club loss and profit wise than we were the last time we got relegated.
    secondly, we have a lot more sellable assets as far as players go. with the sale of our key of players we would have a small fortune to spend.
    we could easily mount a championship title challenge.
    So we just need a manager who can ‘cope’ with the extra 8 championship games…..

    I am sure derek and mike will know this so there is a safety net in place as long as we come straight back up so ashley wont sell nufc if we go down because then he would be guaranteed to make a loss on us.

    but first lets just sing and play our hearts out for 3 games, even though it undeserved its the least we can do.

  • 21 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    nihghtfa11

    it would purely depend on if he would be willing to work in our set up. He is a good coach just poor in transfer market, if we took that off him then he could just coach the lads and do well.

    He won league and champs league in valencia, champs league liverpool and runners up once, often in top 4, doing pretty good with chelsea as well.

    Inter was poor, dont know the reasons as never watch italian footy but other than that he’s done ok.

    Toondarnsarf

    Because pardew hasn’t shown any signs of improvement and unlike those others he hasn’t done anything before to suggest he is good.

  • 22 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    yeah right.,..

    what did rafa bought:

    josemi
    nunez
    pellegrino
    mark gonzales
    palleta
    leiva
    insua
    riera

    bought about 3 great players…everything else was below average..

    etc..

  • 23 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    brian

    the problem is last year we had a core of good players who stayed…next year we wont if we go down.

    Might have a lot of money as you say but would then need to sign new players and gel them before even thinking of coming up…would do so much harm to us long term.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    nightfa11

    a lot of managers buy poorly though, we have a good scouting system and a firm owner so shouldn’t cause a massive problem as he wont have free reign if he comes in.

    We are looking at a coach not a manager.

  • 25 nightfa11 // May 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    i agree…rafa is still 20x times better then pardew..but still..if we want a long term quality manager hes not the one.. for me the best option would be blanc..but id be happy with mourinho as well:D no seriously..young, energetic, clever, down to earth manger..with big balls.. thats what we need..

  • 26 Foxworth // May 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    At #5

    Perfect team. Colo for Taylor if fir & Jonas LB if Colo plays.

    Hope Pardew grows some footballs and gives it a go.

    These last few weeks have been torture :-(

  • 27 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Lesh…I’m glad someone understands my pain being stuck in Ibiza…it’s a real struggle :)

    Stuart…What have you been calling her? I’m imagining something like “No Alan, don’t do it, whhhhhyyyyyy???” – Need to start working on your pillow talk mate :)

    Jesper…Done your ankle already? You could probably get a job playing for Newcastle!

  • 28 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    nightfa11 – he’s not the finished package. Either we’ve got faith that he can become an excellent manager or we are mistaken in ever having that faith.

    I agree he’s made mistakes, and if the players aren’t behind him then he has to go. But if he’s still got the dressing room, then we need to back him to turn this around.

  • 29 Jonny // May 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Nice kits them

  • 30 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    DarnSarf…That is it for me. If the players have lost faith then he has to go, if not, I still do think he needs backing.

    Everyone has their own opinion on him and usually point to his CV as a reason he can’t turn it around. Has he ever been backed and given the time to turn it around though? If we have someone who is substantially better than him, then yes, show him the door, I’m all for progress.

  • 31 Sazzer // May 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    I don’t think anybody has Rafa as their first choice, but he might be the best guy we can get.

  • 32 clinath@ed // May 1, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    I’d buy them kits….if they guaranteed to make me tummy look that flat!

  • 33 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Ibiza – good to see someone else with some perspective here. I’d dump him for Mourinho or Moyes like a hot potato but there’s nobody else I can think of. Maybe Poyet or Clark would be a good up and coming manager but unproven in the PL.

    So for now, we need to back him, stay up, and if we’re still not right up there in the top 8 come Christmas then we need to think about a change.

  • 34 Sazzer // May 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    And as long as Pardew is our manager I hope he wake up from his dogmatic slumber one week (this week) and find away to turn things around.

  • 35 Thump // May 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    They aren’t real. This is from the kit Photoshop pack (usually used for FM modders who want to bring their own kits or update older games to modern day). There’s that and there’s also the shoddy photoshop on the club crest.

  • 36 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    ibiza

    Can i come work for you…if i run the business into the ground can i still stay? haha

    But no really, i want him gone but if he is still in charge next season i’ll let this and last go and judge him purely on what he serves up next year. He will have seen his mistakes and have plenty time to learn from them or ask for help so he’ll have no excuse if he does stay.

  • 37 Thump // May 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    marc @ 19: Good shout on Poyet. If he can get Brighton playing, he can do something with us, surely!

  • 38 clinath@ed // May 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    thump….you mean my abs wont look like that?

  • 39 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Thump…Spoil sport :)

    Sazzer…Whether he stays or goes, I’d love to see him and the players give it a real good go. Not interested in blame right now, just get our club out of this potential mess.

    DarnSarf….I get why people are worried about our position, especially given recent performances. I do think, without wishing to offend, that a lot of people have gone in to panic mode and aren’t really seeing the whole picture here. We even have people saying that “anybody” would be better. I mean come on, give me a break.

    Pardews far from perfect, but most managers are. I don’t want to change at the first hurdle so to speak, especially if it’s not for significantly better. Granted I may be deluded and he could do worse next year :)

  • 40 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    I want him gone, think he is making the same mistakes every week and wont put it right. He has shown he can get us playing well when we play high up the pitch but he bottles that every single week then tries it for 45 mins and reverts to type.

    Not to mention his subs, choosing players out of form every week, dropping lads who are doing well for favourites….really annoys me.

    There are a ton of better managers out there.

    Waiting til christmas to judge him means we get a new manager in mid season, rare you get your first choice or a top one then…best to replace in summer.

  • 41 brian kilclines pony tail // May 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    TS
    we have players at the club already who can and would do a job at that level and would stay and be our core i.e. perch, williamson, goufran, taylor, fergi, elliot, campbell, bigi, hairada then there is sammi + obertan (maybe).
    whoever else stayed would be added to that list, we already have a reserve keeper in alnwick too.

    although there could be a lot more, been on the fifa website and found this you can read it if you want but if
    i use sissoko as an example, this means to me that because we signed sissoko in january he has now played for 2 clubs this year and there for cant play for a 3rd club until january. link and relevant bit below.

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/06/30/78/statusinhalt_en_122007.pdf

    Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play of? cial matches for two clubs. As an exception to this rule, a player moving between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping seasons (i.e. start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring) may be eligible to play in of?cial matches for a third club during the relevant season, provided he has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs. Equally, the provisions relating to the registration periods (article 6) as well as to the minimum length of a contract (article 18 paragraph 2) must be respected.

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Sage…Sorry mate, only room for one person on the payroll that gets to sit on the blog :)

    Also, if it was getting run in to the ground, I wouldn’t be on here….as much ;)

    I do have my doubts about whether it’s possible for him to remain, given the recent frenzy. If he starts next season well, as soon as we hit a bad couple of games it will be back to square one. If you believe in a long term project you have to accept there will be problematic periods of time. I think that good will period is well and truly over for him with many fans. But maybe, just maybe, if we stay up, get in some new coaches with new methods, get some new players in, maybe he can have a better crack at it.

    Ughh…that feels so forced these days :)

  • 43 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    brian

    it says no more than 2 in one season….next season is different so could move.

    And we have a core of those but they aren’t in the class of nola, barton, butt, colo, smith, guti (good when went down compared to now)…they were big players for us…then carroll and lover were there too.

    We will struggle a lot more than last time, my opinion anyway…feel free to disagree though :) each to their own.

  • 44 Sazzer // May 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    On the new strips above. I don’t like them, but I guess they are better than our Europa League strips. Still prefer last years kit. Mainly the excessive use of the blue color I don’t like.

  • 45 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Ibiza – you’re right, he could get worse next year. And if a manager can’t learn from the mistakes and correct them over a summer, then he definitely does deserve to go. I don’t expect another 5th place finish, but being a solid top 10 team and with a bit of a go at a cup would be nice. Flirting with qualifying for the Europa League is about the height of my expectations…

    I don’t really care so much about offending to be honest…I think the modern fan gobbles up so much crap from so called “journalists” on the internet, that it’s easy to jump to conclusions. Believe The Sun and Ben Arfa is off, believe The Independent and Cabaye wanted to go last Summer and the Frenchies are on the verge of la revolution. I don’t care about that speculation, I just care about what my club does.

  • 46 brian kilclines pony tail // May 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    TS they look at it from window to window, so its from january to january or august to august. i really dont think the 5 frenchmen we signed in jan can leave until jan.

    but remy’s release clause has made me question this.

  • 47 NUFC_LEAZES END // May 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    @dok

    alright mate, I haven’t posted on here in ages, how is it going

  • 48 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    TDS…I’m perhaps a bit of a soft touch and I can accept that, however, I think people expect a bit much from a man who has never managed a team in Europe, with a squad that wasn’t strengthened and whether a tired excuse or not has had a load of injuries meaning they never got any consistency.

    People expect him to have been able to rectify all of this as the season has gone on? I think it’s been a major snowball experience where he probably hasn’t been able to properly assess who, where, what, why or when. For me, his biggest test will be next year, but does he get that chance?!? Time will tell. If people want to claim we have an ambitious club, then surely Ashley will step in? If not, I say give the man a chance to show he’s learning – but don’t expect to see it too much in a relegation scrap, it’s backs to the wall time.

  • 49 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    TS – we’ve had considerable injuries, so it’s been a tough call whether to play certain players if they’re not fully fit. That should be down to the medical team and the player themselves to state whether they are fit to play or not. I don’t think those decisions have always been correct.

    When you refere to favourites, I think players like Jonas get underrated by fans when he often slogs his guts out and keeps things ticking over. Players like Marveaux can look really good for a while but he can go missing for a whole game and his fitness is suspect. There are only so many flair players a team can carry at once.

    Last season we had Krul, Colo, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse/Ba fit, hungry and on form for most of the season and the rest of the team slotted nicely around them. Without that core, we were always going to struggle.

  • 50 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    brian

    them rules says season…not jan – jan. it’s season not calender year or year from when signed.

    Ibiza

    If he started next year i wouldn’t be happy but if he does stay and starts doing well and shows he has changed his philosophy then i will forgive him the odd bad patch.

    If it’s the same as this year I will never be happy.

  • 51 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    TS…You’re a reasonable guy, so I can see that. I do have concerns about the majority of people though. It would take one tremendous start to get the masses back onside imo.

    But hey, stranger things have happened.

  • 52 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Ibiza – I agree completely. And assuming he still has the players onside, he should be allowed to continue. But he must learn from the following mistakes:
    – stand up to the owners more if they won’t sign players
    – spend more time assessing your 2nd string, or replace the person who did it last summer – they were lacking!
    – ensure players are fully fit before playing them
    – don’t come out in public and say that we’re safe when we’re not, that didn’t work out well!
    – don’t pander to any player’s ego (I’m thinking about Ba), no player is bigger than the club

  • 53 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    TDS….I’d add two more things to that list.

    – Try and be a little more adventurous against smaller clubs.
    – Find a way to score from a corner – even just one :)

    If the players are still onside, I have no reason not to be.

  • 54 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    TDS

    I think jonas doesn’t do enough, for a winger, which is where he is played often, hard work isn’t enough to justify a place.

    As a DM I accept he can do a job, not my ideal one in there but i could see why, he should be no where near the wing.

    If (or when, the odd time we do), play high up the field, pressure from the front and attack we look much better defensively and offensively and then don’t need jonas to sit deep.

  • 55 iggystinger // May 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Team I think should play the hammers
    …………………………Elliot…………………………
    Simmo……..taylor………colo………..haidara………
    BArfa………..cabaye…….sissoko…..marveaux if fit……….
    ……………………..cisse……..gouffran…………..

    Maybe shola up front with cisse for a physical presence and gouffran on the left if marveauxs unfit what do u guys think got to go back to 442 team plays a lot better more fluency

  • 56 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Ibiza – I agree with both of those. Annoying to go 1-0 up against a smaller team and dominating the play, yet hold back a bit and see them come back in the second half to knick it. 1-0 up is when we should use pacey players to exploit the space left when they try to equalise.

    The corner thing baffles me! How can we be so bad?! He’s like the anti-Allardyce…

  • 57 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    ibiza

    thanks you sir…..i am happy for people to be given a chance if they show they can and are willing to take every step possible to improve.

    if he just keeps coming out and saying he is a winner and blaming everything (yes its not been easy but it hasn’t been as hard as he has made it look and he caused some problems himself) then i will be fed up and want him out.

    By saying he will address the coaching by bringing somebody in shows he is learning (albeit slowly), as long as it’s not a defensive coach i am happy haha.

  • 58 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Donkey

    the man who’d rather have Roy Keane than a man who has been to 3 x European cup finals

    Nightfall

    Ask scousers what they think about Rafa especially after he won them the European cup final after being 3-0 down at half time.

  • 59 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Wow.

    People still want to back Pardew?

    I’m sorry but that is just plain stubbornness on the part of those that backed him.

    I thought better of you Ibiza. You are entitled to your opinion as always but to say that he should be given a chance to prove he can handle this is just shortsighted and very irresponsible.

    A manager shouldn’t be given a chance to show he can do well after a poor season because other clubs haven’t let him have a go at coming back after poor seasons with them.

    What kind of madness is that?

    A good manager wouldn’t continuously find themselves in the same position of hoping to be backed after a poor season.

    Pardew hasn’t learnt from West Ham, Charlton or Reading and after smashingall types of records for poorness here at this club you think we should back him?

    C’mon Ibiza, what is it you think he has to offer? Why defend him until the end? I just don’t get why you want to back a manager who has literally embarrassed the club and taken us to a new low?

    I’m sure you’re related or something.

    You used to have a valid argument but now it sees like you’re backing him just to be outspoken.

  • 60 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    TS – When he’s played out wide in the midfield, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s playing the role of a winger. I think he’s a good choice on either side of midfield to counteract the pressure from a particularly strong wide player in the other team, but I’d rather see Marveaux (when fit) against teams that are not so offensively strong on the wings.

    I don’t like the flack he gets though, if the rest of our squad had the guts that he has, then we’d never have been relegated last time and we’d be nowhere near it now.

  • 61 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Pardew’s CV proves overwhelmingly that he doesn’t learn.
    After an initial good spell he and his archaic methods are very quickly found out as morale amongst the players as well as league position always plummets. 2 many different clubs for it to be a coincidence

  • 62 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    TS… :) Didn’t think it would be a defensive coach…now I’m worried…

    TDS…I think a lot of it is down to confidence and possibly fitness / concentration issues within the squad. We’ve seen it over and over again, one minute they’re playing well, the next minute like school children. That can’t be simply down to a manager asking them to go more defensive?

    People keep mentioning how we went 1-0 up against West Brom and then went defensive. I disagree, we kept attacking after the goal (10 mins in), it was the second half we were defensive. He and the team clearly went for more goals and we should have got them.

    No comment on the corners…shambolic.

    Iggy…I am fully expecting a 4-4-2 on Saturday. I do think he will start Tiote mind, lets hope he has a good game if he does.

  • 63 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    pardew has done for newcastle what blondie did for formula 1

  • 64 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    ibiza

    isn’t that a little damning that at the age of 52 he hasn’t previously taken a team into Europe? His CV is so average and mediocre it’s a joke to be in charge of a club o our stature. Some people are just so accepting of it and the more and more ludicrous excuses, it’s quite sickening.

  • 65 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Beattie

    I want him gone but if he does stay i’ll give him time as long as there is significant improvement (in style of play) from game 1. If it’s the same as now then i will up my calls for him to go even more, not sure what more i can do, just maybe complain more here.

    TDS

    I think that’s why we have a problem on the wing/out wide. Jonas sits so deep we end up allowing their winger and fullback to keep attacking us as we have no outball in the wide areas and cisse is just isolated.

  • 66 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Beattie – a new low?? We’re rebuilding in our 2nd season back in the PL, we made a mistake not signing players in the summer, our youth players have been lacking, our injuries have been significant, and we’ve definitely been stretched with the Europe League games.

    Definitely a poor season, but are you forgetting the dire days of our relegation season? Of Keegan’s team being dismantled by Dogleash and Gullit? Of Sir Bobby’s team being dismantled by Souness and Allardyce?

    Those were dark days…I’m hoping this is just a blip…

  • 67 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    TDS

    also i don’t blame jonas, he is just following the game plan given to him, he can’t help it if he is selected out wide when he can’t cross.

    He should though work harder in training to learn to cross a ball.

  • 68 iggystinger // May 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Ibizatoon your probably right he will start tiote going on this seasons form tho he, s needing time on the bench, the one thing thats really annoyed me is pardews persistence on playing sissoko on the right of midfield he’s a renound box to box player and showed us that in his first couple of games and since he’s been on the right has looked woeful but pardew keeps playing him there surely he’ll not this weekend?

  • 69 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    ibiza

    do you really have to ask the question are the players still onside?

    If the last 2 performances haven’t shown you the answer to that, I guess nothing ever will.

  • 70 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Beattie…Then you clearly don’t know much about me.

    First things first, I am all for a new manager if we get better. That is a given.

    I’m not saying he should be given a chance with us, just because he wasn’t given a chance at other clubs. I’m saying his CV only proves that he has hit problems and has never been given a chance to turn it around. Entirely different.

    I still maintain that if he lost the dressing room then he definitely has to go, however, if he hasn’t I will take the players view on things over the Sun or any other newspapers spin on things or what fans on a blog assume.

    Anyway, we’ve been over this before, sorry to disappoint you and that you think this is about me just being stubborn. Not sure what else I can say.

  • 71 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Ibiza – I agree, it does often seem to be the 2nd half that we go defensive when leading. I don’t understand why though. I can see the logic in absorbing the pressure for the first 10mins or so, as the opposition might come out all guns blazing, but a 1-0 lead isn’t enough for us to hold confidently.

    We’ve had an ever changing squad this season, that can’t help at all. 4 players signed in January (Debuchy, MYM, Sissoko, Goofy) have played almost every game since. They need a pre-season together with the rest of the squad.

  • 72 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Imagine you are sick or ILL,

    You go to a doctor and he gives you medicine, which is wrong. he keeps giving it and you keep taking it and your problem/fever gets worse.

    You don’t keep going back to that doctor, you need to change that doctor.

    Pardew is that doctor! we need to change him

  • 73 sanchez // May 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    This post may be misconstrued as off-topic or whatever but I like these two away strips than the ones posted the other day. Lime green strips are hideous. IMO a Newcastle away strip should be blue.

  • 74 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    TS – I think he’s a bit old to learn to cross a ball better than he can at the moment! Maybe Santon can learn to defend a little better though…then we can afford a more attacking wide player ahead of him!

  • 75 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Rotonda….Seriously? It’s damning that he hasn’t taken Charlton, Reading, Southampton or West Ham to Europe? Please. You have some good arguments, that isn’t one of them.

    Rotonda…It’s hard after this whole season to isolate 2 games, however, the players seemed to want to give it a go against liverpool at the beginning of that second half. Did they all of a sudden just have a change of heart? Confidence is clearly an issue at the moment, that doesn’t mean it’s an issue of confidence in Pardew. Whilst possible, it is an assumption.

    Iggy…Sadly I’ve been saying that last line for a while now :) Who knows.

  • 76 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    No disrespect Ibiza but I can’t understand what you see in him. If it is just a doubt that we can do better then I understand but he has shown nothing before nufc, during his time at nufc and there are no signs of nufc improving in the future.

    I’m all for giving people a chance to change my opinion of them, giving them a chance to prove me wrong but we are not talking of a man thats been here 6 months. We are not talking a 4 week blip or 1 bad month. We are not talking about a poor run of form.

    We are talking about a potentially crippling season with the future of the football club at risk.

    If that isn’t enough to sack him then I can list 20 other things that are. Lets see his supporters list more than 5 valid reasons as to not sack him.

    And as for the dark days of Souness, Allerdyce, Gullit and Dalgliesh, how many relegation battles were we in? How often were we beaten so easily week in and week out? How long did they managers get before we realised they were destroying the club?

    Trust me, these are much darker days than those.

  • 77 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    TDS

    santon certainly can learn to defend, and also not to stroll back after attacking…he annoys me at times haha.

    Jonas is 29, surely he can learn still. It just annoys me that for all the hard work he does on the pitch it seems like he doesn’t do much off it (in terms of crossing, shooting, passing etc) should be much better.

  • 78 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    beattie

    5 good reasons to keep him

    1. come on…it could be worse
    2. he makes a good puppet
    3. his name is already screwed on the office door
    4. he hasn’t relegated us yet
    5. 5th last season

    Are they good enough?

  • 79 Barton // May 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    I car’nt believe some people are still backing clueless Pardew,i think after the last few perfomances its quite easy to see he has lost the changing room,and once its lost it aint coming back,and who can blame the players after some of his tactics/lineups/gameplans ect,he has at his disposal argubly the best squad of players any manager has had (i say squad not indervidual players),and yet the worst team if fans think this is progress then god help us!

  • 80 ToonDarnSarf // May 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    TS – Jonas was billed as an attacking midfielder when we signed him, but he’s never been amazing in this role. This year he’s definitely been deployed in a more defensive role though.

    With the new January additions, I hope the summer is the time to sort out clear roles for all the players, strengthen in the areas we need to, and get rid of any dead wood. Jonas is being used as a utility man, and I’d rather see young players coming in to do jobs there if possible.

  • 81 boater // May 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Transfer Sage – Jonas is never going to be reliable with his wide distribution. You need to take a deep breath and accept it. He joins the dots in the team and wins free kicks. Fair enough for now.

    Speculating over player’s continuing faith in Pardew is pointless without the facts. There is one clear reason that Pardew has to go in my mind- results are unacceptable, and it’s impossible to see how he could ever instill a winning mentality back into this bunch of players.

  • 82 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Beattie…For me it’s not about defending the manager, but the reasons why we have struggled this year.

    I have always said there are better and that Pardew is limited in many ways. The board decided to take him on, knowing his limitations for a reason. With that in mind he should be equipped to do the job or of course he was going to struggle.

    Once you’ve accepted he will struggle, where do you draw the line as to what is too much with the fine margins in football?

    One thing I would have loved to see improve this season is our style of play. We saw some signs of it last season, but that was off the back of the team gaining confidence, something that hasn’t happened this season.

    I back the manager as I can see and understand why we are where we are. I would be delighted with a better manager, it really goes without saying.

    Does that make any sense at all? I am happy to accept i’m not normal :)

  • 83 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    sage

    in a word NO !!! lol

    It’s sad though. He’ll stay and we can have another feast of HOOFBALL with perma crock Andy next season and maybe finish 13/14th while Cabs, Benny and crew move on to CL/ EL teams.

    I think Enrique, Ba and Colo have it right.

  • 84 jordijohnty // May 1, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    I wish people on this board would stop writing about our future next season with pardew as manager . If we stay up Ashley will find someone better, and if we go down…christ, that would be totally unacceptable for that to happen. It would mean he won 1 match out of his last 13

  • 85 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Ibiza

    It’s damning that he was deemed fit and proper for this job in the first place based on what he has / has not achieved in the past, ie virtually relegating 2 EPL clubs
    and now possibly us.

    Actually I believe he was in Europe once with west ham as losing FA cup runners up.

  • 86 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Rotonda….Was he? Actually, I think you may be right, didn’t they get knocked out in the qualifier the season he got fired?

  • 87 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    From Wiki:

    After drawing 3–3 with Liverpool at the end of extra-time, West Ham lost on penalties,[10] resulting in the second FA Cup Final defeat of Pardew’s career.

    In the 2006–07 season, Pardew was criticised after seeing West Ham through their worst run of defeats in over 70 years which included an exit from the UEFA Cup to Palermo in the very first round[11] and a League Cup defeat to Chesterfield.[12] West Ham’s new owners stated their support for Pardew,[13] but on 11 December 2006, following a 4–0 defeat away at Bolton Wanderers the previous weekend, it was announced that Pardew had been sacked by West Ham. The club statement read “The chairman Mr Eggert Magnússon and the board have been concerned by the performances of recent weeks and feel that it is the right time to make a change in the best interests of the club.”[14]
    Charlton Athletic

    Pardew’s absence from management lasted less than two weeks when he was appointed manager of Charlton Athletic on Christmas Eve 2006, signing a three-and-a-half year contract.[15] He took over with Charlton in 19th place in the Premier League, with just 12 points and a –20 goal difference, the lowest in the league. Although Charlton’s form improved under Pardew,[16] he was unable to keep Charlton up, resulting in the first relegation of his career, both as a player and manager.[17]

  • 88 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    rotonda

    you protest too much…i think you are a closet, pardew, allerdyce and carroll fan…you are over compensating haha

  • 89 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    TS… :)

  • 90 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    boater

    i have accepted jonas can’t cross but i just question for somebody who works so hard on the pitch why he can’t on the training field.

  • 91 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    if we score on a corner this year, i’ll… i’ll.., i’ll…

    actually, i have no idea what i’ll do :)

  • 92 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Fans keep saying Pardew has not achieved anything? Fluctuating fortunes aside he came mighty close to winning the FA Cup. I also think it’s unfair to totally discount the 5th place finish and a good run in the Europa. How many managers win 2 awards for managerial achievement in a season. I said months ago that if Pardew was sacked it will be because we’re relegated.
    Rotonda
    Are you a Yorkshire or Durham fan ? My mate Joe Root has just made another huge score.

  • 93 wolfshead@toon // May 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    @ian

    will you stand by pards if we drop down?

  • 94 woolerbill // May 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Who in their right mind would want to walk about advertising for the loan sharks at WONGA.

  • 95 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Rotonda- At the Southampton away game countless pro Pardew fans were very praiseworthy of what he had done for them.. Appreciative of the players he’d bought to the club. I know it doesn’t fit in with your thinking. You can still find Bolton fans who feel that had Allardyce not left they would not have been relegated. Your cockney mates had you lined up to question his management of the toon before he entered the ground. In our attempts to secure another season in the PL your not helping. Come the Arsenal game we don’t want anything but positivity at SJP. You should join the travelling fans then maybe you wouldn’t be so one dimensional.

  • 96 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Wolf – No

  • 97 AwToonnufc // May 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    West ham is going to be very interesting…If carroll scores against us and we lose there is a very good chance of us going down(Even though there is already)….Andy carroll would never be welcomed back to tyneside.

  • 98 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Ibiza- your doing a great job. Being Ibiza means never having to say your sorry. May the gods be with you my friend.

  • 99 davis_toons // May 1, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj4l0DTDwRE

    If we can get 5 or 6 youth players in there, there will be chances high chances that at least 1 will become world class.

  • 100 wolfshead@toon // May 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    we got 3 games left all energy should be put into roaring on the team and keep off the managers back otherwise your playing into the hands of other teams around us

  • 101 davis_toons // May 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    On AC
    I think the problem is if we are relegate again, will AC still wants to come become to play championship football and accept a much lower pay.

    Mind you, we may not come back on the 1st attempt .

    MA will not pay him high wages, thats the fact.

    Its not whether we are interested in buying him or not.

  • 102 toon22 // May 1, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Expect Carrol to have a storming game.
    Imo best result we can hope for is a draw,although a lucky away win cant be too much to ask lol

    Its all about what wigan do for me ,we need them to not win the next two games.If they do we need to get better results than the teams around us.We aint going to do that are we.

  • 103 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Ian…Never say I’m sorry? Maybe a step too far :)

    Hope all is well with you.

  • 104 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Gotta say I love the look of the two strips, well apart from the loan shark sponsorship on the front

  • 105 nufcjohn56 // May 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    brian kilclines you stated above
    we have players at the club already who can and would do a job at that level and would stay and be our core i.e. perch, williamson, goufran, taylor, fergi, elliot, campbell, bigi, hairada then there is sammi + obertan

    here are a few names for you that we will have left at the club
    Elliot
    Tavernier
    Perch
    Williamson
    Santon
    Anita
    Abeid
    Bigirimana
    Obertan
    Shola Ameobi
    Sammy Ameobi
    beaten 2-0 at brighton in january
    and you can probably take away anita and santon.

    to say we don’t need to spend if we go down is bordering on insanity.

  • 106 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    *So any news beside which kit we are going to play in next season in the EPL or the Championship or who is suppposebly replacing Pardew in the summer? :-)

    By the way got my new mobile workstation last week – finally a laptop that works at my speed :-D lol

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Jesper…What speed is that? Zimmer speed? ;)

  • 108 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Ibiza…haha ;-) very funny

    …warp speed my friend lol (and I thought we were thick as thieves)

  • 109 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Jesper…Oh we are, so much so that we can joke around without causing offense…I hope :)

  • 110 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Ed, I’ve been coming on the blog for years now, but these adverts are really starting to pi** me off big time, please do something about them

  • 111 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Ian

    So Rotonda belongs with the away fans? Is that your own multi-dimensional take on things?
    Answer me a different set of questions. Can you explain how Pardew does fit in with your way of thinking?
    Just say we were relegated. Would you still give him more time to build?
    And if you were offered the choice…sack Pardew and stay up, or keep him and go down, which would you choose?
    He isn’t going to be sacked. So you can answer with a total freedom.
    You’ve never waivered. I don’t mind you being one-dimensional. It’s your right. So we can speak as people of strongly felt, but opposing views.

  • 112 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    JB…Are they for mature local sheep?

  • 113 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Newcastle have moved to ban a Daily Telegraph journalist who reported a dressing-room split at St James’ Park.

    Telegraph editor Tony Gallagher revealed to his Twitter followers that the Magpies had banished North East correspondent Luke Edwards from their press box after he reported tensions between the clubs’ large French contingent and the rest of the squad.

    Edwards claimed that ‘some individuals have been more interested in complaining about tactics and worrying about their own personal agendas rather than helping the club to survive in the Premier League’.

    Newcastle have been left infuriated by Edwards’ report, branding it a ‘flagrant misrepresentation’.

    Gallagher tweeted: ‘Things at Newcastle must be worse than we thought: they have banned our reporter Luke Edwards for revealing the dressing room is split.

    ‘Worse, they have engaged lawyers to demand a public apology ‘forthwith’ and withdrawal of Luke’s article. I can help them here: no.’

  • 114 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Ibiza…we sure can ;-)

    …is it summertime in Ibiza now?

  • 115 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Careful Ibiza, you know I wont have anyone insulting the local ladies :D

  • 116 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Jesper…As of today…YES! Been rubbish the past few days, but clear skies now :)

  • 117 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    JB…Wasn’t an insult mate, well, not towards the locals anyway ;)

    Right then, I’m off for a bit, catch you later.

  • 118 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    @Ibiza

    I’ll let you off then ;)

  • 119 davis_toons // May 1, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Hardly easily to play west ham at home. Hope to get a draw. Which could be a good result consider our current display.

  • 120 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Ibiza…enjoy the sun and the bikini girls ;-)

    …I am off too to make some dinner! Until next time…

  • 121 davis_toons // May 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Its all up to the players now. No matter what formation. AP will still be playing his style of football.

  • 122 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Ibiza

    It took Freddie Shepherd 60 years to develop such a sophisticated sense of humour. Well done you!

  • 123 surreytoon // May 1, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Whoa! The club is now at war with the Telegraph.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10030947/Newcastle-United-bans-Telegraph-from-attending-matches-following-dressing-room-split-revelations.html

    So we now have confirmation that Edwards’ sources are club employees and that a contingent are unhappy with some of the French players.

    Who is the player with poor fitness?? Benny?

  • 124 surreytoon // May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    And who doesn’t care or realise the importance of keeping Newcastle up?

    Benny, Cabs, Mbiwa?

    Goofy, Haidara, Sissoko seem to give it their best… don’t know what to make of all this.

  • 125 thejokethatisnufc // May 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    I think pardews problems is the players don’t respect him

  • 126 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Well if I were an inteernational footballer I would be worried as well ;-)

    …playing for Newcastle cannot be good for your career these days…can it?

  • 127 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    surreytoon

    I honestly believe that those players will want away even if we do stay up, Pardew is causing problems that are bigger than just a relegation dog fight. He seems to have lost the dressing room and the players don’t seem to want to play for him. So even if we do stay up he needs to go

  • 128 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    surreytoon,

    Well, you can dismiss it as mischief-making by journos with nothing else too write about.
    Or you can see it as a dangerous sign that while the fans are praying for a united team to turn up at West Ham, the dressing room is divided between loyalists and disillusioned and disaffected players.
    I started saying this would happen before it did. The camps pick themselves.
    I hope the manager isn’t being distracted by this kerfuffle with the Telegraph. Surely he has better things to be concentrating on? And I certainly hope he isn’t right at the centre of it…..

  • 129 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Anyone else notice the malicous ads are back…..

    As for the strips, they arnt the worst ive seen for NUFC….remember that yellow strip *shudders*

  • 130 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Jesper

    when you look at the stadium, training complex and fan base we only need to set this thing off once and we could become a major force in European football.

    For me Ashley has until the summer to come out and prove his desire to take us to that place and dispel the thought that a lot have that we are simply an advertising tool for his grubby little shop

  • 131 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Ian

    What experiment are you conducting with this constant pandering to Ibiza, it’s making you look a little silly.

    Also, the Pro-Pardew express has pretty much left, why aren’t you on it? Ibiza has even sort of begrudgingly admitted that recent results may have condemned Pardew in many fans eyes as to never being able to reclaim them.

    How can you defend the man after 2 of our most humiliating home defeats in living memory and one of our most disastrous seasons in recent years?

    Don’t understand your logic, but being the superior intellect you are surely you can let me in on the secret.

    How is Mensa these days by the way?

  • 132 surreytoon // May 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    When a few managers and pundits came out in January to say there would be problems with such an unbalanced team i.e a huge French contingent, I dismissed it as negativity or cynicsm.

    I really hoped that these players could integrate and cliques, resentments etc would not surface.

    Apparently we do a lot of research on the “character” of the people we scout – and they all seem like a good bunch. I mean who, having just signed for a club could “not realise the importance of keeping Newcastle in the Premiership”?

    Only those that have got eyes for other teams – the suggestion being Benny and Cabs. The others have hardly had time to bed in let alone consider other clubs. Perhaps Mbiwa based on the fact he did not get a game for a while.

    What a shame.

    All I can hope is that they manage to pull themselves together on Saturday and go for it with some fighting, never say die spirit.

  • 133 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Ruddy,

    Sorry for the other day. Very wrong of me. Sometimes real-life makes the blog a good place to vent. That wasn’t day wasn’t one of them.

  • 134 markmac // May 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    imo AP has always been to ‘friendly’ with the squad, as in similar to mclaren for england when he used to refer gerrard and lampard as ”stevie g” and ”lamps” . trying to be 1 of the boys rather than being a strict ”do what i tell you” kinda boss.

  • 135 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Ruddy,

    Sorry for the other day. Very wrong of me. Sometimes real-life makes the blog a good place to vent. That day wasn’t one of them.

    Two apologies for the price of one.

  • 136 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    BandB

    Very gracious of you, I of course apologise for the part I had to play in the dispute, recent results doesn’t make things any easier does it?

  • 137 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Ruddy,

    Well, it’s fairly easy for me to keep the football scores in perspective. Right now, a sunny Saturday in the pub and and something to shout about would be a welcome prospect, though.

  • 138 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Well, that was a quick meeting :)

    Jesper…Enjoy your evening.

    BandB…If I may jump in with your comment to Ian. I think he meant if Rotonda spent time with the traveling Newcastle fans he may see a different point of view? But then again, maybe I have misunderstood.

    I know little about Shepherds sense of humour, so not sure how to take that comment. Either way, my humour tends to help me out of most situations and keeps me from topping myself :)

    Ruddy…Can you do me a favour? Can you leave me out of your discussions with Ian. I know you two have issues, I’d rather not be part of them :) Other than that, how’s tricks?

  • 139 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    BandB – Not sure what you mean by belongs with comment! The away fans do everything they can to show their support to the team. It’s not about personalities but the team. Owners/ managers/ players come and go but it’s the team that will live on. The priority is not to be relegated I am not prepared to countenance anything else in my role as a fan. Too many have their own agendas I have said that the time for a post mortem is at the end of the season. A managerial life is a vulnerable one and Pardew’s position will be reviewed whether we stay up or not. I have already said that should we not stay up I feel he should be sacked. On a blog such as this people feel compelled to follow a certain line often based on nothing more than their pseudonym . I have no such obligation. I see the whole sorry mess as a collective responsibility and posted as such last night. The fact that we have certain bloggers who still rake up Pardew’s past at various clubs indicates that they have lost the argument. For me managers live and die on results and they ave not been good enough. I was interested to read Alan Hansen earlier in the week who felt until the last few weeks Pardew had done an excellent job. It is one dimensional to think that there are winners and losers in all of this because there are only losers. The problem is self evident but they are collective. The downward momentum can be allayed by not having an overwhelming conviction that were already down. It’s not a question of realism but retaining a believe in the team.
    Ibiza- I was being foolish. What I was implying was that if you never make a mistake you never have to say your sorry. I was giving you a master conductor of the orchestra presence. You’ll doubtless get a big bonus from Ed should we survive.

  • 140 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    BandB

    If things aren’t going well for us outside of football then sometimes it is hard to keep it from the blog, especially if someone (in this case me) is challenging what you’re saying, so it’s almost instinctive to go on the defensive so I understand where you’re coming from, albeit I wouldn’t purport to know anything about anyone’s personal circumstances.

    I made a comment yesterday how we should treat each other with respect, because while we may be personas on a blog, we are all still people behind the screen, with real feelings

  • 141 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Hi guys I can stay for a while longer this time and thanks firstly to Ibiza for answering me despite my criticisms.

    Secondly a word on this cockneymagpie fella… does anyone actually remember him from before this week?

    I haven’t been on much this week but he seems to be someone who has appeared demanding apologies and insulting people worse than I ever have.

    Who is he?

    And shall I take him down?

  • 142 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Not sure what to make of the Telegraph situation.

    Don’t overly trust the club, nor do I trust newspapers! Both could (do) have agendas.

    Hmmm….

  • 143 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Ian

    Ibiza hates you.

    Sorry Ibiza…I’ll be better next time I promise. Yeah I’m as well as to be expected, still waiting anxiously for the next breaking news “exclusive” of how dire the situation is at our club, the southern press do love a good old Newcastle implosion don’t they?

    Roll on West Ham…yay…

  • 144 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    All this talk about feelings?

    When did this become nufcdating.com/menseekingmen ?

    You lot are a bunch of cocks.

    But I love you all.

  • 145 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Beattie…I understand you struggle to understand where I am coming from – seems a lot of people do these days :)

    Cockney has been around for a while. Shame he didn’t realise how we coming across before he ran into Ruddy – now there’s no way back ;)

  • 146 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Ibiza

    RE the Telegraph:

    As you often say the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

    Although I do think lines are being drawn and excuses are being dripped into the bloodstream of the press.

  • 147 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Beattie

    Yes to taking down cockneymagpie.

    And now you’ve hurt my feelings :P

    Cock ;)

  • 148 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    The London press like nothing more than having a pop at Newcastle United. In the week when one of their favourite sons has managed to get a London club relegated with a load of high priced stars they should look a little closer to home for dressing room splits and discontent. Why bother with that when they can have a go at Newcastle?
    Luke Edwards banned from St James’ Park. About time too. He has been spouting bile all season. His lopped sided reports would have nothing to do with his allegiance to Sunderland now would it?
    Err yes.

  • 149 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Ibiza

    Am I being portrayed as some sort of bully again? :O

    Never…the little scamp just was getting a little big for his boots.

  • 150 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Ibiza

    Was I ever like cockneymagpie?

    If I was I’m surprised I wasn’t assassinated.

  • 151 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Ian…I got that, was just playing :)

    Beattie…Can I take that as that you love….wait a minute, we’ve been down this road before and it usually ends in tears. Moving on…

    Ruddy…The circus is back in town! Absolutely gutted tbh and don’t know where to start to make sense of it all. I really want this season to be over (with us still being a PL team). M..M…M…Mad mad. Time for some Muse.

  • 152 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Does anyone think Carroll and Nolan will throw the match on Saturday as to not relegate us?

    To be honest I don’t think we could win against 9 men.

  • 153 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    @Ibiza

    There have to be two schools of thought on the Telegraph story.

    1 – I can’t see them running at story if there was no truth behind it, they are not The Sun, Star or Daily Mail and do have a reputation of being regarded highly with their stories.

    2 – They are simply vultures circling as they smell a decaying corpse and realise that if they exaggerate and sensationalise a romour, they can sell more copies of their paper .

    For me, I believe that there is something very wrong as we have simply collapsed of late. The players seem disinterested, the effort isn’t there and you get the feeling that they have on eye on their next move rather than focusing on doing what they are paid to do

  • 154 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Ibiza

    I’m not even sure Muse could make me feel better right now, I think I need to listen to some melancholic Fleetwood Mac to get over the heartache, or some trippy Pink Floyd to pretend it’s not even happening and we’re all in some form of alternate universe…

    The reality kicks in and we’re still in the $hit :(

  • 155 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Beattie

    I really don’t think Carroll will be up for this game, it’s become painfully obvious that he won’t get a permanent transfer to West Ham so any allegiances to their fans is only temporary so he’ll be subdued, Nolan might feel he has a point to prove and he is very loyal to that walrus of a manager of theirs who will be uber pumped for this game.

  • 156 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Those who are complaining about the ads, clear your cache. Haven’t had a problem after that.

    To be honest I think the only person that actually want to leave us is MBiwa, because in reality I don’t think he actually wants to be here. Can’t see Cabaye or Ben-Arfa wanting to leave.

  • 157 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Ruddy…If the finger indents in the wedgied childs underpants match….yeah, that might need some working on :)

    Not at all. I tried reasoning with Cockney, but he seems hell bent on bringing you to justice so obviously didn’t grasp my message. So fair play I guess.

    Beattie…Rest assured, you are unique.

    Don’t tell me I may be on to something with that middle ground nonsense? :)

    Novo…It does stink a little to me. But I can see how it’s started, fans have been thinking along the same lines for a while.

  • 158 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Ruddy- you sound just like JFA. There are certain people in your life that bring a warmth and generosity to ones everyday existence. If ever I am having a difficult day I just know that just reading some of Ibiza’s comments will make me smile. A recent poster described Tsunki as being a likeable rogue and I just new what he meant. You have no soul mate your too wrapped up in winning imaginary battles.
    Ibiza was wrong in mentioning battles between us because they don’t exist. I seriously lost respect for you when you accused me of lying and posting under different names it was a lie. I am not going down that road again. I really don’t care about whether I embarrass myself for the reasons you state as I am a colourful personality and will not be dimmed by your black moods. My attention is very much on us playing PL football next season.

  • 159 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    I do believe that the better players will be complaining about tactics whilst the poorer players will be sticking with Pardew.

    It’ll be the French + Colo & Anita vs. Perch, Jonas, Saylor and the mediocres.

  • 160 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Sessegnon’s red card upheld by FA

  • 161 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Beattie25

    If the players are not complaining or questioning Pardew’s tactics then they are the only one’s

  • 162 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    beattie, please do, in ref to cockmagpie..

    sounds the bulge for the charge :)

  • 163 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Ian,

    I did, in all honesty, mistake the meaning of one of your sentences. There’s a great line in Rob Roy, “It’s bad enough that it may be, without you wishing it so!”
    I despair when I see people arguing that relegation would be a blessing in disguise.
    As I said, you have been consistent, and I am certainly not going to deny a man his optimism. Pardew was happy enough to take the plaudits for last season. But he can’t have it both ways, and neither can his supporters. I believe he is behind this finger-pointing campaign that is going on at the moment in an attempt to deflect the pressure on to players. He may think he can never knowingly over-estimate the intelligence of the fans, but the narrative is pretty transparent. And it’s not what he should be thinking about at the moment.

    Ibiza. Thank you chuck. Is that a fence an umpires chair you have there? Now I WOULD give a penny for your thoughts, me little grin-without-a-cat :)

  • 164 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Is this the original article then?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10026476/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-sees-position-at-St-James-Park-put-in-peril-by-dressing-room-split.html

    JB…I get the feeling that there is a lot of 2+2=5 going on. We’re in bad shape and people are just throwing assumptions round like there is no tomorrow.

    Do I think there were words after the Liverpool game? Too right I do, I wouldn’t expect anything less tbh.

    The worrying bit is that the Telegraph are fighting back so to speak, which would indicate there is substance to some of what they have said.

    Beattie…I think Carroll is going to help us score from a corner.

  • 165 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    next to him beattie, youre a smooth talker and charmer :)

    and maybe, i was blinded by the wishing to keep pards on, im not usually right, and dont know why i thought in this case i may be…

    my apologies..

  • 166 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    I hope Pardew absolutely slaughtered them after Liverpool. Sure he is to blame for a lot of things, but you have to blame the players in situations like that as well.

  • 167 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    Ian

    I have no soul? As defined by my blog persona on a football website? Uh huh, you make less and less sense every day.

    Oh my goodness, you understood what likeable rogue meant?!? However did you figure that one out Inspector Clouseau? I mean, I guess you have to have a soul to understand the basic definition of words…

    You are now, always have been, and will forever continue to be the single biggest douche that has graced this blog.

    The issue of me having a soul is up for debate, but not whether I have integrity and self respect, of which you clearly have a severe deficiency.

    Hmm what do ya know, I knew the definition of all the words I wrote, guess I didn’t need a soul after all.

    ;)

  • 168 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    BandB…Is that to mean I stick my nose in? :) Just seems that sometimes, shall we say, egos, get in the way of a good debate on here. It’s easily done.

    You can ask me my thoughts for free anytime, what would you like to know my thoughts on?

    JB…My first reaction is good :) However, i didn’t see the foul, was a red deserved?

  • 169 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Ginger

    the players have to take a portion of the blame for saturday, but they are coached all week, they work on tactics, positioning etc, etc and are sent out with a game plan. Pardew is the man who coaches them, works on their positioning and sets the tactics and it’s his game plan that the players follow.

    90% of what went wrong and continues to be wrong at the club is Pardews inability to get the best out of a very good squad

  • 170 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Ginger…Agreed. There comes a point that no matter what the manager has done, that performance cannot just be put down to one man. They were pathetic.

  • 171 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    ibiza, my lad, good afternooon…

    was watching the match live, to me, was 50 50 on whether a red was deserved… then agian, who was he playiing for :)

  • 172 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    why does ever debate always descend into chaos?

    I just thank God I’m not a mackem, at least on this blog we can chat and even understand the insults…those poor buggers can’t even read.

  • 173 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    DOK

    Don’t apologise for your opinion. You weren’t wrong, your faith in Pardew might have been slightly misplaced.

    Even now though Alan might prove us all wrong. Don’t say sorry though. It isn’t your fault.

    What am I saying?

    DOK out!!!

  • 174 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    @Ibiza

    It was one of those tackles that depends on who the ref is, very similar to the olivier giroud red

  • 175 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    dok

    i think it’s a very soft red but had zero chance of being over turned as the FA are spineless and just back the ref regardless unless the player is from a manchester or london club.

  • 176 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    beattie

    did you see the 5 reasons i gave for pardew to stay? i accepted your challenge to do that and nailed it.

    its further up

  • 177 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    ruddy

    i blame you for all these arguments…whether you start them or not you are always involved. Do you get attacked or chased the down the street often?

    just kidding buddy, you aint half bad haha

  • 178 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Ibiza,

    No, that’s not what I mean. I hear what you are saying about egos though.

  • 179 nufc786 // May 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    http://blog.squawka.com/2013/05/01/mvp-new-look-newcastle-find-comfort-in-french-fancy/201305018375?

  • 180 nufc786 // May 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Cabaye’s strengths lie in his prowess in the final third. An 80% pass accuracy rate has been consistently maintained throughout the campaign, while he also has created 46 chances for his team-mates—13% of all the total chances created by Newcastle this season, despite having missed a quarter of the campaign through injury.

  • 181 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Dok…Afternoon good sir.

    Basically, what we’re saying is he plays for the mackems so it’s all good? I can live with that :)

  • 182 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    anyway off to the pub with my pal from the club…anything good i will post here…he was excited enough to ring this morning to tell me the benitez stuff seems true…see what more he has to say.

  • 183 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    JB…I am not going to blame MA for disaster that is this season!

    …he does share responsibility of course like everyone else, but as you say the important thing is what he does now!

    Will he do what is right so we can stay up and will he what is right so we won’t have such a season once again (I am saying this knowing there is no guarentees) :-)

  • 184 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    ouch beattie, dont condemn me to a life with the unwashed :)

    TS, very true there, point taken…

  • 185 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Ruddy- I guarantee than Ibiza, Jesper, Tsunki and a number of others will be in the real world how I imagine them to be on here. Just stop behaving like a white noise simulator and just be yourself.

  • 186 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    ibiza, glad you figured my point out :)

  • 187 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Sage

    It just so happens that I have a lot of previous with a lot of people and Ian Toon is just…so….erm….I’d know this word if only I had a soul…

    :P

  • 188 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    BandB…What is it with me and misunderstanding your posts?!? :)

    Can you clarify it for me then?

    786…What place do stats have in this discussion? That’s an awful lot of responsibility on him…shame he’s not as good as Abeid ;)

  • 189 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Jesper – Good Evening. See you seem to be taking the collective responsibility line as well.

  • 190 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    ian

    what do you like about pardew? just curious as i have lost everything i liked about him and want him gone.

    but as i said earlier, if he does end up staying he gets a clean slate next year nd he must show he has improved out football ethos and isn’t just defensive and long balls.

  • 191 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    @Jack Butler

    Don’t get me wrong, Pardew is to blame for a lot of things. He coaches them, but no matter how he does it each and every week the players should be putting in 100%

    I don’t care if Cisse’s started center back or Vurnon Anita’s put in goal, I expect the players to put in 100% Pardew plays with negative tactics and that is going to affect the players a lot, but there’s no excuse for not trying even if it’s just trying hard at being defensive.

    Sure Pardew may not have motivated them but hell whenever you walk out into St James’s Park the fans motivate you like crazy. Sure, Pardews over defensive tactics and extremely defensive first 11 didn’t help in the slightest, but you’d at least think the players would put there all into it.

    I do agree Pardew needs to go but he was not solely at fault against Liverpool.

  • 192 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Ginger

    Also agree.

    What I think happened though was the players completely giving up with Pardews tactics and losing any form of motivation to carry out his game plan.

    Put simply this is inexcusable and even if you don’t believe in our manager and think he is wrong, ou still have to fight and do what is demanded. The time for giving up on the manager is the Summer.

    That’s what my message would be to the players. Whilst everyone is still here and there are games left to play you have to carry out what the manager demands, not matter how much you might hate it. When the season is over, then you can say ‘no, i’m not accepting this anymore’.

    The players were as much at fault as Pardew this weekend but over the course of the season Pardew has brought about that kind of response.

    Cabaye was brought here much like Anita on the promise of good football based on their talents as players. There is nothing worse than wasting a year of your football career and wanting to play a particular way and being asked to play another.

    However they have a job to do and they need to stop moaning and win 1 game and then start to complain.

  • 193 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    jesper

    Exactly mate, it’s time for him to once and for all prove what he intends for us. If it’s mid table mediocrity then we need to try to get him out, but if he is willing to try to be the one to finally set us alight then show it this summer

  • 194 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Sage; he hasn’t been talking to the Telegraph too has he?

  • 195 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    ibiza

    abeid just scored his 14th goal on loan last night

  • 196 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Jay b….y Spearing we’re linked with now. Does pardew’s mediocrity know no end cos sure as hell no way would Carr scout him.

    Beattie’s right it’ll be the mediocres like Shola, Saylor, Perch and Jonases backing Pardew while the real talent will wonder what the hell they’re doing here with this total balloon of a manager.

  • 197 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Sage

    After just reading your earlier post I now realise I’ve been wrong all along.

    Pardew in!

  • 198 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    ginger

    i doubt it haha

    he is on business/admin side anyway, never really sees the players much or hears a lot off them.

  • 199 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Dok..It was quite a riddle, but I cracked it :)

  • 200 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Ian

    Tell me how I am in real life, I dare you to tell me how I am in real life.

    If you are such a blooming expert on the matter you tell me how I am as a person.

    Your ripostes have gotten weaker and weaker as time goes on, the more I jar you, the more you realise that you’re not quite as smart as you once claimed to be.

    You’ve met your match, you’ve met people who saw you for the fraud you are, including some of the”buddies” you listed, and if you could the reality that is staring you in the face you’d realise that for all the spats, debates, scrapes and scraps I get into on this blog, people respect what I have to say because I am genuine.

    In the same tone, people don’t like you because you’re a sociopathic charlatan who patronises and panders because he hasn’t a shred of dignity.

    Boom.

  • 201 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    beattie

    i knew you were a reasonable chap haha

  • 202 nufc786 // May 1, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Ibizatoon

    it was an interesting read which i felt the urge to share… apparently abeid is going to released and either st johnstone or ross county will take him…

    kets will not be happy

  • 203 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    ruddy

    i actually think you talk rubbish and aren’t genuine at all ;)

  • 204 nufc786 // May 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    by the way where is tsunki??????

  • 205 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    nufc786

    Bring back the blog killer.

  • 206 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Ginger

    I agree that 100% should be the basic return from everyone on the pitch and nothing else should be tolerated…………but I honestly believe that Pardew has taken all freedom of expression away, we have very technical players but they are being told to play a style of football that is neither here nor there. We are not an attacking side nor are we a defensive side, we are stuck somewhere in the middle and the players seem lost.

    At any level of football, if you don’t believe in what you are being told to do or believe in the person thats telling you to do it, it’s nigh on impossible to find a sense comitment and form as belief is everything in profession sport and our players don’t seem to believe in Pardew anymore.

  • 207 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    TS…That’s good news on Abeid, Kets will be a happy camper.

    Enjoy your trip to the pub and let us know what you hear.

  • 208 mot7 // May 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Hope pards has the balls to drop guti for saturday because he has been carried all season .
    Every week he is the best player for the oposition
    he got by for a long time on his workrate but now even that seems to have fallen away.

  • 209 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Rotonda

    i saw that story about spearing, but it depressed me too much and my love for you all stopped me from posting it up here as we are having a hard enough time as it is :(

  • 210 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Anyway, back to football.

    I don’t buy this collective responsibility argument one bit. Pardew has the sole responsibility for both motivation and man management and it is painfully clear that he has failed miserably on these two counts.

    Whether he has lost the dressing room, it is his fault, if the players aren’t motivated to play for him it is his fault. If they are with him and he can’t get the best from him it is his fault.

    Yes key players can under-perform but if they are doing so for the whole season the manager must shoulder the blame.

  • 211 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Ruddy The End!

  • 212 nufc786 // May 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Beattie25
    um well there is two of us…. things have gotten so bad i cant even do tiote banter with the main perpetrator under performing everytime he is on the pitch!!!!!!

  • 213 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Ian

    You want the final word? Take it ;)

  • 214 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Ruddy

    If these stories of a cliques in the dressing room are true then thats another failing of the manager as it’s his job to ensure that players are integrated properly and that sort of thing doesn’t happen

  • 215 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    786…Seems a bit odd as he’s doing well out on loan. You’d think he’d get a go back with us.

    Tsunki is on occasionally. Seemed to be peeved with the ads recently, so I hope he returns soon.

    Interesting article. Cabaye has seemed to be one of the biggest under performers this season, yet he’s one of the best performers this season…explains a lot about our position.

  • 216 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Oh and also, every time you talk rubbish I will be there, it’s what I do, call me petty but I simply plain don’t like you.

    I never let someone disrespect me and you did so in a huge way that I will never forget so, it is not the end.

  • 217 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    José Mourinho wants to manage somewhere where he’d be loved.

    Well Jose, come to NUFC as you would be idolised…..well, for the first few months anyway, the we’ll all turn on you and want rid of you :D

  • 218 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 1, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    JB…I saw that headline earlier and thought exactly the same :) Come on Jose, we’ll play nicely…we promise (he says with his fingers crossed).

  • 219 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    This is going to sound like an out there crackpot theory but would anyone resign Scott Parker in the Summer?

    Now hear me out.

    He is old, and he has lot a bit of talent but as a wise old head giving guidance to the players, playing every so often and giving a bit of PL experience at a low cost would anyone else see it as a good idea?

    I’d take him and Hangelaand.

  • 220 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Jack

    I agree, despite the fact that in his role of “head coach” he has little in the way of actually signing the players so what little he has to do in his role he hasn’t done it right.

    I just don’t see where anyone can defend him, despite the mitigating factors

  • 221 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Ibiza

    I honestly think he’d see us as the ultimate challenge, his ego would go into overdrive if he were the man to make us great.

    But it’ll never happen as our ambition ends at mediocre :(

  • 222 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Also agree.

    What I think happened though was the players completely giving up with Pardews tactics and losing any form of motivation to carry out his game plan.

    Put simply this is inexcusable and even if you don’t believe in our manager and think he is wrong, ou still have to fight and do what is demanded. The time for giving up on the manager is the Summer.

    That’s what my message would be to the players. Whilst everyone is still here and there are games left to play you have to carry out what the manager demands, not matter how much you might hate it. When the season is over, then you can say ‘no, i’m not accepting this anymore’.

    The players were as much at fault as Pardew this weekend but over the course of the season Pardew has brought about that kind of response.

    Cabaye was brought here much like Anita on the promise of good football based on their talents as players. There is nothing worse than wasting a year of your football career and wanting to play a particular way and being asked to play another.

    However they have a job to do and they need to stop moaning and win 1 game and then start to complain.

    Well exactly.

    It’s the fans that pay to see them, Pardew doesn’t… Sure you’re making him more likely to get sacked but you’re also giving a middle finger to the fans who paid good hard money to see them give up half way through the match.

    I can understand the frustration of the midfielders in particular when he brings on Shola and gets the ball to go straight over there head none stop, but just put up with it and then kick off when we’re safe. It’s disgraceful that in the middle of a relegation dog fight there seemingly just giving up.

    They were all promised good football and the thing is I well and truly believe Pardew has the potential to deliver that. There’s times that we’ve went out and played really well, sure sometimes you need the grit and determination of Guttierez over the pace of Gouffran or the skill of Ben Arfa, however not every match.

    Take Swansea I believe, last season. That’s the one game that it was understandable for Pardew to set up the way he did. Sit back and hit them on the counter and it was a tremendous display of tactics and we battered them.

    I understand the players being p1ssed of at Pardew. He genuinely believes he’s a good manager. He seems cocky and treats the more technical players like crap, whereas the beautiful Guttierez and the maniac Tiote get started every game. Plus the fact that Pardew is screaming on the sideline telling them to get back when we have a naturally attacking team wouldn’t help at all.

    Graham Carr has scouted players that would play very attacking football, even MBiwa is more of a attacking defender. Pardew sets them up in a system were we constantly lose and defend. To all of our more technical players, he has given them all a reason to be annoyed.

    Gouffran, does extremely well each match but gets taken off no matter what. Guttierez on the other hand costs a goal and gets kept on and praised.

    Cabaye, gets played too far back and since he’s captain gets the blame when things don’t go right.

    Marveux, doesn’t get played no matter how well he does.

    Anita, was man of the match numerous times… Gets dropped for an inferior Perch or Tiote.

    They all have a reason. But you just don’t give up on the fans and besides one or two… That’s what a lot of them seem to have done.

  • 223 mot7 // May 1, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    I remember pards saying when cabaye arrived he was obsessed with his passing stats .
    Bet they are way down now

  • 224 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Beattie25

    No thanks mate, Parker is like Gareth Barry for me, I simply don’t see what the fuss is about him

  • 225 Spotlight Kid // May 1, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Ha ha. I see we have entered the ‘maybe Pardew’s not so bad’ stage. I think the technical term is ‘in denial’.

  • 226 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    JB

    I’m not fussed for him as a player but I was thinking about how we add experience, grit and English steel into the team.

    I came up with Scott Parker and Phil Neville.

    I went with PArker.

    There is literally no decent English players we could sign. Now I’m very much in the ‘it doesn’t matter where they’re from’ camp but even if we followed Gary Neville’s xenophobic bile then who can we sign?

  • 227 dubzy // May 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Intresting Read…….

    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/telegraph-journalists-banned-newcastle-united-over-report-warns-damaging-split-club?

  • 228 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    @Beattie

    Don’t know why my post copied yours there Beattie, so here is the proper one:

    Well exactly.

    It’s the fans that pay to see them, Pardew doesn’t… Sure you’re making him more likely to get sacked but you’re also giving a middle finger to the fans who paid good hard money to see them give up half way through the match.

    I can understand the frustration of the midfielders in particular when he brings on Shola and gets the ball to go straight over there head none stop, but just put up with it and then kick off when we’re safe. It’s disgraceful that in the middle of a relegation dog fight there seemingly just giving up.

    They were all promised good football and the thing is I well and truly believe Pardew has the potential to deliver that. There’s times that we’ve went out and played really well, sure sometimes you need the grit and determination of Guttierez over the pace of Gouffran or the skill of Ben Arfa, however not every match.

    Take Swansea I believe, last season. That’s the one game that it was understandable for Pardew to set up the way he did. Sit back and hit them on the counter and it was a tremendous display of tactics and we battered them.

    I understand the players being p1ssed of at Pardew. He genuinely believes he’s a good manager. He seems cocky and treats the more technical players like crap, whereas the beautiful Guttierez and the maniac Tiote get started every game. Plus the fact that Pardew is screaming on the sideline telling them to get back when we have a naturally attacking team wouldn’t help at all.

    Graham Carr has scouted players that would play very attacking football, even MBiwa is more of a attacking defender. Pardew sets them up in a system were we constantly lose and defend. To all of our more technical players, he has given them all a reason to be annoyed.

    Gouffran, does extremely well each match but gets taken off no matter what. Guttierez on the other hand costs a goal and gets kept on and praised.

    Cabaye, gets played too far back and since he’s captain gets the blame when things don’t go right.

    Marveux, doesn’t get played no matter how well he does.

    Anita, was man of the match numerous times… Gets dropped for an inferior Perch or Tiote.

    They all have a reason. But you just don’t give up on the fans and besides one or two… That’s what a lot of them seem to have done.

  • 229 dubzy // May 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Likes the way it sez …

    The Telegraph said the story was “written on the basis of verbal and written accounts of the split provided by several sources” within the club..

  • 230 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Ginger

    I agree.

  • 231 p // May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Ginger – big post there and I agree with the general gist.

    Pardew sometimes gets his tactics right but more often he gets them wrong.

    The players should hang their heads in shame but Pardew has the most to answer for.

    Fans and pundits alike regularly are bewildered by his tactics.

    I do think it is time for a change in the summer but, for now, we just need to try to get something out of the next 3 games.

    Something so simple on paper that even experts don’t believe we will be relegated but, lets face it, it looked easy enough last time.

  • 232 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Jackbutler

    I agree that it’s hard to hit form with Alan Pardew in charge of the team. You hit form by having confidence in yourself, your manager, the way you play and winning itself.

    We have none of this at the minute and that is indeed Pardews fault. I’d say Pardew sets us up as a very defensive side when in reality I think we could either play slick, possession football or attacking football. Both the complete opposite.

    What infuriates me is the fact that certain fans seem to think that Pardew is the sole reason we’re losing. Sure he is the main factor, but the players are playing sh1t at the minute too.

    And they can’t just blame Pardew for that.

  • 233 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Beattie25

    I understand what you are saying, but I’m still convinced that with a better manager we would once again see the best of Tiote, Cabaye and a few others and this xenophobic view is so far out of date that it’s beyond pathetic.

    I do, however believe that we should be looking at the likes of Redmond and Ince and a few more players of that type as they are the only realistic way we can bring more british players into the squad as established players are way over priced.

    But again, with a better manager, any line up including Sissoko, Marveuax, Anita, HBA, Cabaye Tiote and Gouffran could become one of the best midfields in the the league

  • 234 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Ian…at this point I don’t really care anymore I just want this season to be done with :-)

    …not to confuse you thought I still Pardew has underachived massively this season…but the players have let him down as well. I don’t really have an issue with MA with regards to transfers – we should have sign a few more players last season but even he knows that :-)

    I just want to be safe then we can point fingers in the summer (I am not buying JFA’s point of view though)

  • 235 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    P

    Yeah sometimes I get carried away haha. I disagree with him getting his tactics right, he uses the same ones each and every game so I’d say that’s more the opponents getting their tactics wrong then us getting ours right… if you know what I mean?

    It baffles me that people think we can’t go down because of the quality of the team. They need to look at our overall performance this season and then think again.

  • 236 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    The Torygraph is no friend of the Toon.
    There will always be disaffected people and it soiunds like sources were staffside not players – could be someone wiht a bgrudge or just spiteful doesnlt even have to have a grain of truth to be printed.
    Any side that has shipped 9 goals at home without scoring is going to be pretty shellshocked and tempers frayed.
    I have no problem with players not liking the game plan but if they don’t exceute it you get a total shambles and it is unprofessional. Commitment needs to be 100% at all times. If the guys had an off day then so be it – but that is where I feel Pardew is failing even more than tactically. He doesn’t seem to be able to get the players motivated and grasp the psychology of stopping a losing run.

    I don’t agree with Ibiza that not losing the dressing room is sufficient reason for keeping AP in a job – he needs to deliver results even more than entertainment.

  • 237 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    JB

    I am with you on that.

    It’s important to buy the next big British talents at a decent price and develop them into something great over the next 5-10 years, especially considering the overseas players rule. I think some of the summer funds should be used on purchasing the next generation of talent like Redmond, Ince and Hughes despite the fact we need new coaches and first team players.

    Ashey needs to splurge this Summer.

    Doubt he will.

  • 238 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Ginger

    But it’s a fine line, how can you give 100% if you don’t believe what you are doing is the right thing?

    And lets be honest, these are not Geordie players we are talking about, they are not going to have the same passion and love for the club that we do, it’s a job to them, hard fact I know but a truthful one.

    No one come’s out of this whiter than white, but almost everything stems from the manager and how he works. If he goes in the summer and we stay up with a quality manager watch us take off next season,

  • 239 Big Pappa Cissé // May 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    As long as they have PL badges on them I don’t care how they look

  • 240 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Ginger

    You just get on with it, sure make a scene in the dressing room but these are paid professionals. Say what you want outside of the pitch, but on the pitch I believe you should but in 100% even if it is the wrong thing to do, just the way life works.

    I don’t believe in that, sure Geordies are going to have far more passion for the club… That’s just how it is. But say I went abroad to Spain and got signed to a team, the second I walked out onto the pitch in this crazy atmosphere that passion to try my best would overwhelm me in no time.

    I’ll give us time next season if we get a new manager. Probably a season, I don’t expect to do well straight away however after they’re used to everything I expect us to shoot up the table. (Along as we get decent investment as well) I’m also hoping for more youngsters to be given a chance too.

  • 241 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    JB

    If Mashley is shrewd he’ll keep Pardew on in a more General Manager role where he can still use his strong points and and get us new coaches throughout the club espceially a first team coach who is dynamic, understands modern foorball and is a strong motivator. There’s still guys on here wanting Beardo to do the caretaker role – but he can’t even get the youth side performing. I do not want to see AP in sole charge of the first team next season, but cannot deny he has a skillset that can be useful to the Toon, regardless of the dross we are playing just now.

  • 242 hdavid23 // May 1, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Good evening fellas!
    Does any of you remember 2006, when we fired Souness? We started a petition. Ottmar Hitzfeld. He worked wonders with the swiss national team and has a lot of respect amongst players for sure. I know it’s a long shot, but shouldn’t we restart that petition?

  • 243 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    NUFC team in 5 years:

    GK – Simon Moore (Currently Brentford/Value = £ 1 mill)
    RB – Sam Byram (Currently Leeds/Value = £2 mil)
    CB – Harry Maguire (Currently Sheff Utd/Value = £1 mill)
    CB – Curtis Good
    LB – Massadio Haidara
    CM – Josh McChearen (Currently Chelsea/Value £4 million)
    DM – Gael Bigirimana
    CM – Will Hughes (Currently Derby/Value = £4 mill)
    LF – Thomas Ince (Currently Blackpool/Value = £6 mill)
    CF – Adam Campbell
    RF – Nathan Redmond (Currently Brimingham/Value = £2 mill)

    Champions 2018

  • 244 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Ginger

    Agree.

    Do we really believe that SBR was less committed to any of the Spanish or Portuguese teams he managed than the Toon ? He was a true professional and a role model still worth following.

  • 245 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Beattie

    No Guttierez? ;)

  • 246 Spotlight Kid // May 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    Beattie25@237

    There’s no need to spend a further brass farthing on players to get a top half finish – just avoid a talent exodus by clearing out this incompetent manager and 3 unimaginative coaches and get people in who have noticed we are in 21st century. IF we stay up there’s no EL to worry about – and so the squad is plenty big enough and talented enough to cover fixtures.

  • 247 proudtobageordie // May 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    gents

    ive been informed today thet ashley has been in toutch with MOURHINIO’S representatives with a view to taking the hotseat at SJP. Whether the fat man can pull this one of or not we will just have to wait and see.

  • 248 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Previous comment was directed towards Jack Butler not myself, Jesus I don’t know what’s wrong with me today.

    But yo-yo-

    Yupp you said it. Even look at Danny Graham, he’s a Geordie and he gives 100% for the scum! Even when it’s against us.

  • 249 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    proudtobageordie

    It will never happen.

  • 250 Douglas // May 1, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Ashley cannot fire Pardew without embarrasing himserlf – re long term stability. We have to hope that NUFC is a learning organisation. If not Pardew will go next year.

  • 251 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    The only way Mourniho would come to us is if he swore to Bobby on his deathbed that he would and Elsie overheard.

  • 252 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Ginger

    You are 100% correct in what you are saying, but in the world of pampered multi-millionaire footballers things are different and this is not exclusive to us, you see this happen everywhere when the manager looses the players.

    yo-yo

    TBH mate, I want rid of him, replacing or adding to the coaching is staff is an addmition that Pardew simply isn’t the right man. There so many better options out there.
    A mate of mine who’s a season ticket holder at Old Traford said this week when talking about Pardew and our current squad ‘It’s like trying to run a Ferrari on chip oil’

  • 253 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    spotlight

    Couldn’t have put it better

  • 254 stuart no9 // May 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    it seems clear now that, pardew staying is not goung to make any difference to how the team perform.
    That is why since the liverpool game- i have thought pardew had to go and a new face brought in.
    The performance against liverpool , was not just bad, it was something not seen before at the park for many years, something unusual even by newcastle standards.
    Why did everyone lose form on the same day , everyone not knowing what the other was doing, or couldnt care what they were doing.
    This was not just a bad performance, this was a signal to pardew that they are not prepared to play his rules anymore.Nothing is going to change at west ham – unless we have a new manager.!

  • 255 proudtobageordie // May 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    ginger

    he needs to prove how good a manager he really is. he could do that with us on a budget. Management skills
    He has allready stated he wants Prem next season. All big clubs bar chelsea are stable and do you really think he will trust abramavich? No so his next best option could well be NUFC

  • 256 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Douglas

    Let’s be honest mate, what do you think Ashley cares about more… Money? or embarrassing himself?

    Pardews losing him money and I believe he will go.

  • 257 p // May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    @251 – or if Mash got some pictures of Jose and a sheep

  • 258 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    For me if Ashley sacks Pardew he has to sack LLambias too.

    They are both accountable and it was Llambias that preached stability and so obviously failed in the transfer market until big Mike got involved.

    For me they both have to go and I think Ashley might agree. We need a complete shake up.

  • 259 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Beattie25

    there should be 19 clubs trying to get Jose in as their manager, as only Sir Alex is able to stand his record up against the ‘Special one’.

  • 260 proudtobageordie // May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Beattie

    that could well of happened mate

  • 261 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    beattie at 243

    and only 2 more years of pardew left!!!

  • 262 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    p

    Why sheep???

    You could have had any animal in the world but you had to go for sheep???

  • 263 mot7 // May 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    pards has got to go that git could get barca relegated.

  • 264 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    proudtobeageordie

    I honestly don’t think he needs to prove how good a manger he is, we all already know how good he is.

    Plus in a recent interview he stated something along the lines of: “There’s one club in England that care’s more then the others.”

    And lets face it, he’s a really good manager but none of us worship him. Chelsea on the other hand…

  • 265 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    JackButler

    Aye you have a really valid point their mate. But money can’t buy passion, only the fans can make it for you.

    And in my honest opinion, we are some of the best.

  • 266 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Jose would see us as the ultimate challenge whereas Ashley would see him as the ultimate nightmare :D

  • 267 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Ginger

    If the those on the pitch, in the dug out and in the boardroom had half the passion that us fans have, we’d be world beaters

  • 268 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    yo yo

    and pardew’s strong points would be …….?

    Don’t think a new manager would want the oil slick anywhere near him in any capacity nor would the fans

  • 269 p // May 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Beattie, it’s hard to know exactly what Decca does and what he should be held accountable for and to what extent – for me at least.

    It would seem he is out of his depth though and I think a “professional” MD would be preferred.

    He seems too pally with Mash for that to happen though.

  • 270 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    JB

    At least we’ve got a majority in the Lions side !
    Agree with you about petulance in footballers – but there aren’t so many in other pro team sports. Mind you the Sky cycling team looks like its got a leadership battle going on.
    And I do feel that a Ferrari that can run on chip oil will be a much more eco-friendly Ferrari and better for the planet…

  • 271 p // May 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    @262 because they are soft and fluffy

  • 272 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    JackButler

    If only.

  • 273 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    yo-yo

    Was there ever any doubt about us dominating the Lions :D

  • 274 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    ANYONE ELSE WORRIED ABT THE TELEGRAPH REPORT.

    I AM REALLY WORRIED

  • 275 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    It was a simple text from The Special One which confirmed to Alan Pardew that Newcastle United and their manager are back in Europe.
    The good luck wishes from Jose Mourinho on the eve of Newcastle’s departure for Athens to face Atromitos were official recognition from a European great.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192146/Newcastle-ready-make-European-return.html#ixzz2S49Rqxws
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  • 276 ochytoon // May 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Indian
    What Telegraph report?

  • 277 p // May 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    @274, not really. It was already plain to see the team is in disarray. This is hardly earth shattering news.

    It could well be bollox in that far from having genuine sources, the journo is just extrapolating what many are already thinking and touting as fact. That is pretty typical of the media.

  • 278 p // May 1, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    JB, it was probably Decca really, doing it so him and Mash could have a laugh at Pard’s expense

  • 279 LGFUAD21 // May 1, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Dot get people slating Benitez.

    Out of who is available he is by far the most accomplished and I’d say one of the best tacticians in the league.

    He has a proven record at a number of teams.

    Look at the structure he has brought to Chelsea.

    Under di Matteo they played with as many flair players on the pitch as possible. They had Oscar, mata and hazzard running a mock.

    Benitez comes in and suddenly they aren’t running around like headless chickens.

    Compare the stats of mata and hazard since he arrived. He coached that out of them.

    He’s won 2 la Ligas, 1 champions league, 1 Europa league and he’s challenged for more titles.

    He may have signed some duds but what makes you think part of the blame doesn’t lie with his coaching staff?

    Dogleashe did the same.

    Many managers hold him in high regard for his ability as a tactician and strategist.

    Blanc may be a French legend but he has nothing in his cv when compared to Benitez.

    Rumours are that he’s off to PSG at the end of the season. If that’s the case then ancelotti is my second choice.

    Another accomplished manager with understatement.

  • 280 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    p

    Our club just reeks of cheapness in terms of football above the starting 11.

    From the managers, coaches and directors it’s all people who are either cheap to pay or Mike Ashley’s mates.

    We will get nowhere scrimping on the most important parts of a football club.

    In Europe they surround the business men with former footballers to great effect (sporting directors etc…) and we should do the same.

    It isn’t just the manager and coaches that need the chop, its the entire structure that needs changing. You can’t have a casino boss solely in charge of football dealings, no wonder we have a poor reputation.

    Ashley needs advising on how to build a successful football team and when he finds out how much it takes he either needs to sell up or put up some more cash.

    We can’t get by on a inept manager, 3 average first team coaches and a poor MD. You can have the best players in the world but they can’t perform without the correct environment around them.

    You can patch up a serious wound with fancy bandages and plasters but unless you get the correct medical advice you’ll bleed out in time.

  • 281 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    ochytoon

    Newcastle have moved to ban a Daily Telegraph journalist who reported a dressing-room split at St James’ Park.

    Telegraph editor Tony Gallagher revealed to his Twitter followers that the Magpies had banished North East correspondent Luke Edwards from their press box after he reported tensions between the clubs’ large French contingent and the rest of the squad.

    Edwards claimed that ‘some individuals have been more interested in complaining about tactics and worrying about their own personal agendas rather than helping the club to survive in the Premier League’.

    Newcastle have been left infuriated by Edwards’ report, branding it a ‘flagrant misrepresentation’.

    Gallagher tweeted: ‘Things at Newcastle must be worse than we thought: they have banned our reporter Luke Edwards for revealing the dressing room is split.

    ‘Worse, they have engaged lawyers to demand a public apology ‘forthwith’ and withdrawal of Luke’s article. I can help them here: no.’

  • 282 DokToon // May 1, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    beattie @ 243…

    with all due respect, and by all due respect, i mean, i now have the liberty to say EXACTLY whats on my mind:

    if that indeed happens, i will personally fly to st james, and buy you beer til you swear off booze for a month.. and id consider it a steal on my side :)

  • 283 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Indian

    I’m not worried. If the manager can’t control the dressing room he’s as good as gone. That’s what happened to Chris Hughton.

    If we can get 3 points then we will stay up IMO so hopefully this leak will bring the players together a little bit.

  • 284 ochytoon // May 1, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    JB
    Ahhhh ok cheers. I’d take it with a pinch of salt but in all honesty, it wouldn’t surprise me.

  • 285 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    DOK

    Deal

  • 286 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    My biggest fear is that come the summer nothing changes at the club and in 12 months time we’ll find ourselves in the same position.

    But I’ve said for a while that I believe that Pardew will go come the summer and i will stick with that as the thought of him staying is way to depressing

  • 287 p // May 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    aye, agree Beattie

    Maybe that will happen some where down the road when the penny drops with Mash

    I do think money comes way ahead of mates and if he though paying someone double would guarantee a bigger return, he’d do it in a flash

  • 288 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Now they banning journalists. What next? Forced labour with fans cleaning the toilets and seats?

    Nobody need to defeat Newcastle — we do it to ourselves

    Thanks to DISASTER MAN ASHLEY.

  • 289 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Ochytoon

    There is a report saying there is a big divide in NUFC dressing room

    Beattie

    Last time we were like this we lost 3-1 at WHU

  • 290 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    ochytoon

    the story would offer an explanation as to our collapse on the pitch. Something is wrong

  • 291 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Hope Munich go through tonight

  • 292 Ian Toon // May 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    There are two journalists with the inside track on all things toon. George Caulkin at The Times and. Luke Edwards at The Telegraph.
    The latter is not prone to misreporting and was accurate with news of pending signings in January.

  • 293 toonarmydownsouth // May 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Beattie
    Have just been catching up on the days postings/arguement a, but I’m bitterly disappointed in you my friend, all this time on here and you haven’t annihilated cockney magpie yet
    Your standards are slipping!!

  • 294 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    With This report I am scared to death,

    Hope we survive by hook or crook.

    Its all because of pardew’s ineptness.

  • 295 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Tads

    I’m knackered after my victory…erm I mean dispute :P

    I know, perhaps he could back into the “End is Nigh” mode and bring almighty smiting upon him! haha

  • 296 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    There is absolutely no evidence that Pardew has ‘lost’ the dressing room. SBR was sacked because of a lot of spiteful rumours at the time about the team losing confidence in him and we were 5th then !!!

    Any team in our position is going to have its tensions – and probably stand up rows – it’d be a lot worse if there weren’t any … there’s a lot hanging on the last three games – and these can be blown out of proportion by the jackals of the Press very easily as its sells papers.

  • 297 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 1, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    You add the telegraph report to one in daily mirror and one in the sun.

    everything crossed from me

    and its starting to hurt

  • 298 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    All fascist regimes hold hands with credit vultures.
    All fascist regimes ban freedom of press.
    All fascist regimes suppress the truth.
    All fascist regimes burn within before they go nova

  • 299 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    yo-yo

    If the report was from the Sun, Star or Daily Mail then I’d dismiss it out of hand, but the Telegraph isn’t exactly one for sensationalism and believe there is some truth to it

  • 300 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Franck Ribéry has to be the biggest diver on the planet

  • 301 jordijohnty // May 1, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    i love this. Benitez for the next toon job.That’s so funny, he will definately be coming here after he wins the europa and gets chelsea in the champion league. Who wouldnt want to come to this club? Sleeping giant, proud history, good players, 52000 every week, blah de blah…zz.zz….zzz. Now someone thinks Mourinho might be tempted. We have had one proven international manager at this club in my life – sir bobby, (and special k)

  • 302 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    The Telegraph are loving this ignore their bull and the Sun and the Mirror. They all like nothing better than sticking the boot in. They’ve been very quiet while we have a period of relative success, but now they start making small fractions seem a wide as the Grand Canyon. It’s par for the course for them. Luke Edwards was a local reporter covering the Sunderland beat, and is a Mackem sympathiser. Believe him if you want I don’t. Like Louise Taylor in the Gaurdian they see things Newcastle through Red and white eyes.

  • 303 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    JB

    Torygraph hates the NE.
    I think they’ve found a couple of highly disaffeceted staff (not players) and are exagggerating the whole thing.
    If there had not been a major shouting match Monday morning I’d have been very surprised.
    They need to clear the air as they will all have been gutted.

  • 304 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Banning Journalists

    Its like How dare you, rather than you are wrong

  • 305 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    proud @247 -reference the whisper that we have approached Mourinho . Whilst most would probably dismiss the suggestion immediately, with Ashley you just never know. He does have the ability to surprise us. There was a little bit of a discussion a while ago about what challenges were left for Mourinho. Going to clubs near the top of various leagues, basically taking over somebody else’s team, cannot surely be that great a challenge to Mourinho. Now coming to the Toon would. Ashley could open his treasure chest offer him a lucrative contract over three years. If he came to the Toon there would be immediate positive effects.
    1. Our standing would rise.
    2. Top players would want to come.
    3. Modern day tactics would be employed.
    4. The press would take a more positive attitude towards us.
    To name but a few.
    It was on Sky news today that Mourinho still owns several properties in London and that his daughter is starting school/college in London in September, also that he is often seen shopping in Knightsbridge. Whilst all of this might suggest he is going back to Chelsea well -we can live in hope.

  • 306 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    yo-yo

    Something is wrong though as we completely collapsed on saturday, it wasn’t just another defeat, everything was wrong

  • 307 Big Pappa Cissé // May 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Gotta love Bayern taking it to Barca in the Nou Camp despite already having a 4-0 goal lead. I wonder if Pardew is sitting at home watching this. It would be a massive coup to get Jupp Heynkkes in the summer IMO.

  • 308 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Schwefelberg

    tons of clubs ban journo’s who say things against them or make things up….man utd are renowned for it.

  • 309 Marty-Toon // May 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Looks like the black cats haven’t the worst run in apart from the trip to Spurs.
    Norwich have a tough one
    We on paper don’t look to have a tough one apart from arsenal but were playing rubbish

  • 310 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    big pappa

    pardew is sat watching it shaking his head at bayerns attacking line up

  • 311 p // May 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    MT – Jose is a top manager no doubt, the only issue I have (and it is rather insignificant considering our plight) is he never seems to stick around very long.

  • 312 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    marty

    sunderland are playing an in form stoke who again look slid southampton who could win 4-0 or lose 4-0 and then spurs….not too easy.

  • 313 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Proud

    I thought you said llambias said that pardew was safe? or has liverpool game changed it?

  • 314 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    anyway chaps…currently out with my pal and nothing new to report unfortunately…not heard a sniff except the benitez thing

  • 315 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    TS

    Liverpool game has changed the whole dynamics of a lot of things at the Toon

  • 316 toonarmydownsouth // May 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Forgot Alex Song occasionally played for barca..

  • 317 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Ian

    There a literally dozens of journalists, PR people, and lawyers who have a perfectly clear insight into what is at happening at SJP. But they are bound together by rules of good faith. Far from splurging on speculation, they are being tightly controlled by people who will only pick their fights when they are sure they are right. As the editor of the Telegraph is now.

    There’s all the difference in the world between Talk Radio pundits spouting off and a paper with a scoop.

    Yo Yo…you are a sensible lad. But you are wrong. People like the editor of the Telegraph are on one of the great greasy poles of British public life. You need to be the ultimate cautious, calculating, survivor to get where he is. They don’t take the plunge on the back of a reporters latent Mackem sympathies, believe me. The club will fulminate, and then let it drop.

  • 318 toonarmydownsouth // May 1, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Sage
    Doubt anyone will hear much if anything until our league status is decided

  • 319 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Anyone here think Pardew will stay next season if we stay up, or do we all believe that Ashley will cut him lose

  • 320 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    the press make up so much rubbish all the time, don’t ever trust a word they say.

    they are all aligned to different people and only dish the dirt on people they don’t like. We technically have a free press but they take that many bungs, do that much illegal activity and generally sell their freedom to the highest bidder they drivel they write in not worth reading.

  • 321 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Transfer

    OK but it just makes this worse for them too. If you want to live free and strong you dont push critics around — you welcome them.

    It makes the club look weak and like cry babies.

    Youve got to take the heat. You dont see pushback against the praise.

  • 322 Spotlight Kid // May 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    The press will only speculate when there’s grounds to speculate, the reaction of the club is so Neanderthal that it does far more harm than simply ignoring the tittle-tattle.

    Either way it all distracts from the key issue of Lord Ashley playing Russian roulette (again) with relegation. Last time he gambled on Big Al Sofa – and lost. This time (in the manner of a Sunday League ‘keeper facing a second penalty in succession) he dives the other way only to see the ball trickle slowly past his feet.

    It’s a slightly different set of circumstances, but the same elements. Instead of a managerial merry-go-round causing a lack of direction, we have an inexperienced, incompetent but steady Basset-esque manager and an equally uninventive coaching staff with little or no idea of how to integrate, coach or utilise European internationals within a PL team.

    It’s glaringly obvious from results, glaringly obvious from performances, from substitutions, from tactics, from team selections and from the ludicrous pitch side antics he indulges in that Pardew is utterly and completely out of his depth.

    But Ashley would rather take a gamble than back down – that’s the psychology of the man – so the net result is that NUFC’s PL status is now 100% dependent on the outcome of the upcoming 4 Wigan games.

    Nowt to do with NUFC’s results anymore, folks, Ashley is simply playing percentages – again.

    Huff heavy on those dice, Michael….

  • 323 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Jack

    I’ve heard he will be let go but then you never know with ashley, there’s a chance he will keep him as it directs any blame away from him and onto pardew.

    if they fans/media start to blame ashley he is more likely to sack pardew.

  • 324 toon22 // May 1, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    We have more chance winning our last 3 games than Mourinho managing the Toon.
    Imho Ap will be our manager next year,its going to be an absolute disaster but we all know its going to happen.
    What is worse religation or AP stays and we get religated next year?

  • 325 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    TADS

    This cockneymagpie must only come on when I’m off. I think he is scared of me.

    Or maybe we are one and the same???

    Rumor of the day. Wait until the Telegraph get a hold of this.

  • 326 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Schwefelberg

    I agree it’s not the right way to go about things, i’d like to see more freedom to write stories (providing they are true and not made up nonsense reported as truth). I was just meaning we aren’t the only club to do it and then politicians, celebs , etc do it too.

    Its hard to know the truth though. Have the players really formed a clique? who’s in it? why have they? Or have they just had a heated argument which has been blown out of proportion?

    Who here can honestly say they have never worked under a boss and thought they were useless and you could do better yourself, or you have better ideas how to run things etc. It’s common in all walks of life.

  • 327 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    p @311 – If Mourinho did come just a couple years or so would be fine – we would be in better shape. Interesting though you observation that he does not stick around much. Does he do it for the challenge or does he move on as he may become stale staying somewhere for an extended length of time.

  • 328 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    spotlight

    utter nonsense my friend. we have every chance of getting something from each game…more likely qr and west ham than arsenal but we can get something.

    Not sure why everyone is so negative. Sure we have had two shocking home games but we still have enough talent on the field to even play bad but pinch a result with the likes of cabaye, hba, cisse, marv.

  • 329 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    mister tuf

    i wish pardew would feel stale and feel the need to move on !!

  • 330 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    rotonda

    it’s ok, you don’t need to be embarrassed…you can come out as a closet pardew fan….we all know it. you’re just over compensating with this hate ;)

  • 331 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Sage

    For me, Pardew will be gone within a week of the season ending, the club have already held their hands up and admitted their mistakes at not adding to the squad in the summer, I think they’ll look at Pardew and tell him that he was backed in January and did nothing with it. Also the fact that Ashley got personally involved with those transfers proves he knows that something is inherently wrong with how things are set up.

  • 332 toonarmydownsouth // May 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Beattie
    Of course he’s scared of you, we all are
    Your a wild animal who can attack in the blink of an eye!!!

  • 333 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    jack

    i hope so…hard to tell though with Ash

  • 334 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Sage

    I’ve heard that argument before. The guy then nutted me and split my eye open. Six foot two against five foot five. I guess I deserved it. Do you think the news you watch just falls out of the bloody sky or something?

  • 335 toonarmydownsouth // May 1, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    My god barca are painful to watch when there under pressure!!

  • 336 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    sage

    we have the players can’t deny it but if we play 3 x DMs with 10 men in our own half most of the game as per then it’s a bit soul destroying for all concerned.

    You almost have to hope we score our one goal late so
    we don’t shut up shop so early.

  • 337 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    tads

    They look average without Messi

  • 338 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    sage

    hate is a strong word. i would just say extreme frustration is more the case.

  • 339 JackButler // May 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/swedish-footballer-rewards-club-one-traveling-supporter-match-001140160.html

  • 340 jimmysmith // May 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Nothing breaking on Mourinho but we are in for – brace youselves – Jay Spearing-Wahey…..Gedin!!!! Beer and skittles all round.

  • 341 Spotlight Kid // May 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    TS@328

    Are we talking about the same team here?

  • 342 northernirishtoon // May 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Anyone see watchdog about wonga

    Only us could get involved with a company like that

    When will we ever learn!

  • 343 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    bandb

    Not sure what you are trying to imply. I’m not saying all news is made up just that they only ever let you hear what they want you to.

    Look at any story and you get the side that particular broadcaster/paper wants you to hear. certain paper align to certain political parties, certain papers don’t write bad things about man utd as they get banned from old trafford, it happens.

    The news reports you get in one country about and event will vary from what you get in another, the all spin it to make themselves look like the good guys.

    Even standards on the BBC which is meant to be 100% independent are slipping. The amount of articles they write and open to comment just to get an argument and more hits on he site makes a mockery of what was a great establishment in the past.

  • 344 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    You’ve heard of Moore’s law that computer power doubles every 2 years.

    Well I give you Schwefelberg’s law that:

    Ashley’s regime will always stoop lower every two months

    You can bet the ranch on it.

  • 345 Rotonda heights // May 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    toon 22

    the big fear if we stay up and pardew stays is the mass exodus of quality players who don’t want to play his c..p tactics any more. We will be left with the sholas, perchs, Saylor’s, Gutis etc.

  • 346 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    spotlight

    I know we are dreadful, but at west brom if we scored those two good chances are went three up we would have won. I know it’s ifs and buts but thats how fine the margins were.

    Cabaye is capable of sticking a free kick in, ben arfa could create something from nothing and cisse can see gaps in the goal not many others do…..i’m not saying we will win any of the games but i think it’s doing us a disservice to say we definitely wont.

  • 347 Marty-Toon // May 1, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    Norn Irish
    They got a bad highlighting on watchdog then?
    Miss watching that show,grew up with that.
    Well we all knew that they were dodgy and probably their CEO is a betting buddy of Del Boy and MA

  • 348 Ginger // May 1, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/05/01/alan-pardew-keen-on-wigan-star-james-mccarthy-61634-33263561/#ixzz2S4SKslZS

    NEWCASTLE United manger Alan Pardew is weighing up an ambitious summer move for Wigan Athletic midfielder James McCarthy.

    The Lancashire outfit have told would-be suitors they want £15million for their best player, who is still only 22.

    He is a box-to-box midfielder who is as effective in defence as attack, something the current team chronically lack.

    Manchester United have even been linked with the McCarthy, although that is unlikely, but Everton and West

    Brom have watched him on a number of occasions this season.

    Thoughts?

  • 349 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    My self included as one of those fans the nation percieve as being as being deluded when all I really ask for is a league cup, and then I see why when the normally sensible Mr Tuff is toying with the idea of Ashley going from Wimbledons JFK to Real Madrids special one and BPC thinking Mashley might change from hiring Johnston paint trophy winners to ones in charge of clubs that have won four European cups.

  • 350 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    marty

    Wonga being our sponsor means i won’t even consider buying our shirt next year, wouldn’t have it for free. Not supporting those.

    A company who’s sole policy is to lend at high fees to those desperate for money who have no other option are a total disgrace.

    The only things what makes them different from old fashioned loan sharks is they will cripple you financially instead of with a baseball bat if you can’t pay.

  • 351 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Irish

    I didn’t see that report. But credit vultures always target the poor and weak. — like hyenas on the savannah.

    Blackpool and newcastle have some of the highest unemployment in UK.

  • 352 Marty-Toon // May 1, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    @transfer
    You can say that with the saints that you don’t know who’ll turn up but stoke on a good run?dont know bout that.

    The problem the toon are having is that we can’t score more than we let in and we look one dimensional,were the easiest team to read what were gonna do.
    Ap just hopes that one of our so called top players will do something magical .
    We can’t count on ourselves to get out of this mess so we sit and hope that others get hammered and we stay up.
    It would however be wonderful if we could actually pass the ball to each other and look competitive and a threat,and actually get ourselves a point or two.
    Would love to see mc manaman score an own goal on the last day that puts them Wigan down to the championship

  • 353 northernirishtoon // May 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Marty-toon

    More crooked than a dogs hind leg. Only the toon would get involved with that

  • 354 archaeomag // May 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    @ northernirish 342
    I put the mess we are in down to The Curse Of W@nga !

    [W@nga v Invest in Africa] – not sure God was on our side!

  • 355 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    marty

    stoke have won the last 2 withut conceding….just qpr and norwich but still decent.

  • 356 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    I give Wonga 6 months before being ‘bought’ out of their sponsorship.

  • 357 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    TS
    although i disagree with Wongas policies, it has to be noted that they are a payday loan company, their high interest rates should never become applicable as you are intended to pay back the emergancy loan asap, if used correctly they are ideal for people on low incomes that face an unexpected unavoidable bill….. although securing a small loan against my house certainly woudnt appeal to me…some do not have the choice and therefore it is a valid ”service”. Also companies such as Wonga, amigo loans etc. apparently face upto a 70% non payback that often costs them significantly in chasing up…. not entirely sure if thats true but it a rarther amusing aspect of the whole process

  • 358 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    beattie

    I can only hope so.

  • 359 Ashley for Prime Minister // May 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    So @Cwarr07 thinks Steve McClaren has been lined up by the board as next manager

  • 360 Big Pappa Cissé // May 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Can’t believe Bayern are gunna let Robben go. Get your cheque book out Mike :)

  • 361 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    TADS

    You’re safe…

    …for now

  • 362 northernirishtoon // May 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Schwefelberg

    It wasn’t even about there repayment rates or aprs it was about how many fraudulent loans were being conducted and how easy it was to get a loan paid into one account, yet the repayments can be set up to come out of another account

    An identity thiefs wet dream

  • 363 Marty-Toon // May 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    TS
    I won’t be buying the shirt either as I still haven’t to this years but I must get it now before the changeover

  • 364 jimmysmith // May 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Every time I see Robben play he does something like that – and Bayern have released him.

    Once we’ve got Mourinho in the bag, doubtless he’ll be the next through the door.

  • 365 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    zero

    I have no doubt they do help some people.

    My issue is they will know fine well when they lend to a lot of people they have no chance to pay it back on time and can claim the extra fees. Also with the relatively high fee to pay back as well as the loan you get people having to use other companies to pay one off or take a loan next month etc….they are certainly a bad thing for people in general.

    although it’s better than old fashioned loan sharks

  • 366 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    BanB. So tell me, do you believe everything you read in the press? There may well be some concern over the teams tactics, there may well be players concerned where there futures lie. This does not mean there are splits in the dressing room.
    Hen at work I will often attend meetings where the are differing opinions on the way to move forward this does not mean, collectively all

  • 367 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Parties do not share a common aim. Sooty pressed done before I was.

  • 368 archaeomag // May 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    @Ashley PM
    ‘king great – I look forward to hearing Steve McClaren doing his Geordie/French accent standing in the rain with his W@nga umbrella ..

  • 369 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Jail -it’s alright I’ve now woken up from my dream about getting Mourinho -got to have some dreams in life.
    Really improbable I suppose -but El Gourdo might just surprise us -surely. If we escape the drop -surely there must be big changes at the club. Probably will be the Spanish waiter -surely it’s got to be somebody better than Percy -which I suppose means there could be a glut of candidates for the job. Percy should never have got the job in the first place.

  • 370 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Sage

    The standards inside the BBC are indeed slipping.
    It’s not the Queen’s Press. You can’t flash your card and get the truth. They have exactly the same rights as any other citizen. All they can try to do is ask the right questions and hope the people upstairs won’t cave in to the advertizers, the politicians, the big football clubs and their love of excluding reporters who won’t report the party line. What you say is true. You only hear what they want you to. I remember, a long time ago, everyone knew a certain prime minister was shagging a certain secretary of state. The secret handshakes went round, and they were gagged.
    Don’t shoot the messenger!
    Do you think I’m some wifey from Wallsend or something?

  • 371 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Sorry, not doing very well tonight.

  • 372 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Why do Bayern need Pep?

    Tiki Taki looks good but it doesn’t compare to football that is fast, powerful and end to end.

  • 373 northernirishtoon // May 1, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Archaeomag

    Between pardew and ‘the curse of wonga’ we never stood a chance this year lol

  • 374 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    At the end of the day its not the likes of Wonga people should be scared of, its these debt consolidation firms that take all your debt and put it into one easy managable loan…on of value enough to take your house from you….something small creditors could not legally do.

    I an issue with Wonga is it simple is not attractive to have Aprs insane% however they are needed inorder to reclaim unpaided debt from those they can (make up the short fall).

    again the fees they charge for late payments are also inline (no worse) than most banks with overdrafts or certain credit card companies that take the money out of your bank account too late and charge you a non payment charge plus interest on the money you have paid.

  • 375 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    bandb

    what? haha i have no idea what that last sentence is meant to mean, sorry. Didn’t mean to offend if i did.

    We are basically saying the same thing though (i think)….the press/media do what sells paper/get viewers…it’s all about profit and often good journalism doesn’t sell, gossip and shock stories sell more and unfortunately thats what we get.

    I just think there are always a few ways to interpret a story, especially when journos don’t have all the facts.

  • 376 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    ^^keyboard fail in my last post lol im sure you can get the jist :D

  • 377 jimmysmith // May 1, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    BandB – Prime minister, secretary of state, good grief! Who? and were they both male?

    Just between you and me, of course.

  • 378 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Mishter Tuff,
    I’m shinking that from all der people being talked over alsho, Shteve Mclaren is der most poshible.

  • 379 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    zero

    at least banks try to be a bit more responsible with who they lend money too though…although the way they gamble with millions of people livelyhoods they can’t take any high ground.

    Nearly any financial company fiddles things and the bigger they are the more damage they cause with the fiddle. Wonga can maybe ruin a few people’s lives but big banks/finance firms can ruin countries, which they have done.

    I know the 8mil for wonga is good but it’s not a lot, its a drop in the ocean of what we will bring in from tv and ticket sales…much rather we lose some of that 8mil and go for a local firm or at least a national one with credibility.

  • 380 low fell mag // May 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    Idont know if anybody has seen or mentioned ,if not its worth a look.On the BBC football website there is a thing called premier leaque predictor. It has all the fixtures left to play and you simply fill in the results what you think will occur in the remaining fixtures.Good fun .According to mine Wigan are gooshed and we will finish above the Mackems.Have a go if your bored.

  • 381 archaeomag // May 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    @Zero
    The issue with W@nga is that they suck money out of the local economy and have an ecconomic model based on exploiting the most vulnerable in society . . .apart from that I’m sure they are wonderful people

  • 382 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    I personally wish we had stuck with Virgin, but alas the good PR and having branson trying to get involved with the club and premote the brand equally aswell as his own seemed too illogical for NUFC….. strange really. Something must have been going on behind closed doors.

  • 383 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    barca are such a one man team, for all the quality they have on the pitch they are useless against other big teams without him.

    I know a lot of teams struggle without their best player but never seen a team with so much quality offer so little missing just one player.

  • 384 Big Pappa Cissé // May 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Tika Taka is dead :) . Long live fast flowing, attacking and more importantly entertaining football ;) . My bet looking good on Bayern for the CL .

  • 385 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Zero

    Wronga themselves are not the problem – scum like them will always exit.

    But why invite them to your dinner table?

    Also how many Wrong’a exist in Germany and Scandinavia?

  • 386 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    zero

    basically somebody has a fist full of cash out of that.

    no way was wonga at 8mil significantly more than virgin and wrth dropping them for.

  • 387 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    @lowfell. What do you predict Newcastle’s results will be? I’ve stopped going on as Newcastle always go down.
    Even the predictor is anti Toon.

  • 388 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    On a sherious note, I don’t think Pardew will be sacked, I think we are stuck with him as we have been fed this mantra of stability and unfortunately for us David Moyes was in a very similar situation and has kept Everton in mid to top seven mediocrity ever since, what people see in him I don’t know, maybe Everton fans are so patient because it’s only been 25 years since they won the league.

  • 389 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Jail – I hope not McLaren -another tattie brain in the same mould as Percy.

  • 390 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    big pappa

    thank god for that, hate watching barca…nothing entertaining about keeping the ball and only doing something interesting for the last 5 seconds of a 5 minute move.

    Teams like madrid, dortmund, bayern, even psg are much more entertaining to watch.

  • 391 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Irish thanks for the update. I’ve been the victim of identity theft myself.

  • 392 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    @ Schwefelberg theres actually quite afew… however where im living currently in the states its illegal to run such companies. I think America won a moral point ….. *checks if hell has frozen over* hmmmm things are a miss here

  • 393 jimmysmith // May 1, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    The King is dead.

    Long live the King!

  • 394 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    ashley will promote thru the ranks
    the manager at the bridges sports direct shop is hotly rumored to be next inline for the hot seat

  • 395 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    jzil

    i’m with you on moyes…they are ok, get forward a bit more than us but they have spent more money n players than a lot over the years and aren’t in a false position like the media say. they are achieving what you would expect from that team.

    moyes will leave when his contract is up this summer and end up at an equal standing club somewhere.

  • 396 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    zero

    are you sure it was a moral victory for the states or did the people just not shoot the wonga lot when they turned up to collect their money haha.

    sorry if this offends :)

  • 397 Schwefelberg // May 1, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Leonardo da Vinci used to buy caged birds in the market to set them free.

    I will do the same with Wronga shirts!

    I will surgically cut out the logo and resell them on ebay.

    I will have Ashley;s ass yet!!

  • 398 Jamiemac // May 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Haha 3-0 Bayern!

  • 399 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    TS lol nice one, that may be the case, being a loan shark in the states obviously has its more perilous side, lawyers in suits at your door maybe resicpricated with gun fire and the words….but they were tresspassing lol

    nah states has a bad rep for guns but i havnt seen much trouble since being here and im in one of their murder capitals.

  • 400 Big Pappa Cissé // May 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    @ sage

    I know m8 . I could watch teams like those all day and us under Keegan. It’s how football should be played IMO . I don’t mind slick passing moves but doing it for a whole game just bores me and I hate when people go on about pass completion all the time. I’m pretty sure I could sit in the middle of the park and not look to make a risky pass and get close to 80%.

    And there is the 7th :)

  • 401 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Transfer,

    You have a largely deserved reputation as an ITK.
    I post here because it allows me to give nudges and winks.
    Being a lawyer, PR person, or journalist these days is to accept that you’ll have to shut up when you are told.
    That’s why I persevere with the blog, despite having to put up with sneering no-marks from time to time.
    Because I’ve realized much faster than most in the trade, that this could be the only way to tell the truth.

  • 402 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    TS,
    jzil lol,
    Never understood what the clamour over Moyes is, Everton aren’t exactly a team I would associate good football with and he’s never won anything apart from manag erial awards.

  • 403 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Jail -there was a chat on here some time ago about the PL managers -it’s basically the same group of individuals going around in an employment/unemployment cycle -sacked and hired and so on. New faces happen about one per season. I have no doubt there will be some good young managers out there somewhere – I haven’t a clue who they may be -the football world will know. I only hope El Gourdo has expanded his football resources -as clearly Dastardly and Percy cannot really be relied upon to give accurate assessments of what is happening at SJP. I will be astounded if Percy keeps his job.

  • 404 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    When Tito Vilanova gets sacked I’d take him

  • 405 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    bip pappa

    well last year swansea were up there with top sides in europe for passing but no where near as good to watch as half the sides in the prem league.

    M favourite team to watch in the last ten years, for good football, was arsenal of about 3-9 years ago…the pace, power, skill, strength…they had it all. henry, vierra, lumberg, pires, overmars, etc etc was brilliant to watch.

    there was controlled passing but most of it was forward and at pace, not sideways and slowly picking teams apart.

    What barca does requires a hell of a lot of skill and effort but as a spectacle it’s not the best kind of football.

  • 406 clinath@ed // May 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    I ask this in all seriousness….are Barcelona a one man side?

  • 407 davis_toons // May 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Give Pardew a chance.

    2nd half of next season. Then start rating him.

    Players need time to settle.

    He needs another scouts apart from Carr.

    Most should know that our players are not really that world class to be fair.

  • 408 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Feast your eyes boys and girls:

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130501/stars-united-we-stand_2281670_3164166

    It makes everything all better!

  • 409 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    davis

    Shut up

  • 410 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    bandb

    is that a compliment, insult or just observation? i’m at a loss i’m afraid haha

    but what you say makes sense, even when reporting the truth judges will tend to side with the big companies/people to stop these stories getting out…injunctions and super injunctions just prove this.

  • 411 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    jimmysmith

    It was Major and Edwina Curry. So, yeah, both males.
    Four years, and when it came out, it didn’t bring the edifice of power down. Everyone just laughed.

  • 412 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Can anybody remember a guy called Christian Gross for Spurs, he was widely regarded as one of the best up and coming managers in Europe, not sure what he’s up to now.

  • 413 low fell mag // May 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Novo 66,i predict us to get 3 points ,not many ,but should be enough .I cant wait to see the next 3 starting line ups.We have got the talent as long as the right players are used in their correct positions and we go full out and Attack .Fcuk this defensive shit we just dont do it.Mr Pardew lets go for it, because if you dont ill smash your face in.

  • 414 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    zero

    i imagine a lot gets blown out of proportion over there…get the odd idiot but i guess it’s pretty easy to keep out of trouble in general if you don’t go looking for it.

  • 415 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    davis

    That was meant to say look up

  • 416 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    beattie

    i love your tactful approach to pardew supporters haha.

  • 417 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Transfer

    No insult. You get calls from mates inside the ground, or close. You can come on here and report them. I’m bloody envious, in all truth.

  • 418 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Beattie just words mate, ill wait to see them trounce West Ham and then QPR before making judgement. Id take draws or even them getting beat aslong as they played with the same pride and passion for the badge as anyone of us would….. they wouldnt even have to pay me, id pay them to have the bloody honour.

  • 419 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Sage

    Ha ha it was an honest mistake

  • 420 Dondatta13 // May 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    United we stand….

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130501/united-we-stand_2281670_3164166

  • 421 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    bandb

    i wouldn’t worry, the clown rarely gets much right haha.

    He isn’t on the football side so its literally piecing together calls into the club, certain people coming in for chats, expenses from different areas etc getting pieced together which possible players linked to try and make an educated guess.

  • 422 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Zero

    That’s all we’ve had this season. Words, words and more words.

    ‘Get behind us’, ‘we will fight back’, ‘there are no problems’ etc…

    Too much talking not enough action.

    That will be the thing I remember from this season, the amount of press manipulation from the club is laughable.

  • 423 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Mister Tuff,

    And every once in a while, one of them falls off the roundabout forever. Where are they now? You can bet Mike knows.

  • 424 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    I know what you mean, look at Colin W@nker he’s been on a proper merry go round and what makes Reading think they are better at going down with Adkins rather than Mcdermott, and a few years ago when the mackems were really shite they got rid of Mcarthy if anybody was going to take them back up it could have been him, funny old game.

  • 425 Spotlight Kid // May 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    TS@346

    I have no doubt the players are capable of returning 9 points (see my post @246) , but not with Pardew bellowing hoofball nonsense from the touchline. The current squad is valued at £155m, there are some outstanding footballers in there – but with Pardew in charge we might as well put a team of part-timers out against WHU.

    Hence why his removal is the only way to guarantee at least 3 points from these fixtures, as it will allow the players to do what they do best. The only reason we beat Chelsea is Ap hadn’t had time to mess it up at that point, and everyone simply played their natural game.

    Beardo is not the answer long term perish the thought, but he has at least the wit to let the players do what they do best, and more to the point do it on the floor!!

  • 426 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Yup a season of words and gutless preformaces on the pitch. Seriously the last two matches makes me wonder why the hell we all stay so bloody loyal, the scum are pets of their own trait i.e. the black cats only around when something is on offer, we must be the dumb dogs that sit by the masters feet still after getting twatted with the slipper.

  • 427 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    spotlight

    even with pardews negative rubbish we still have gotten some wins…so we could win under him in the next few games.

    i just hope he sees that in the last 3 games our best performance was when we attacked west brom….hope we do the same for 90 mins at west ham…but i’m not holding my breath.

  • 428 Spotlight Kid // May 1, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    TS@427

    Well if we do manage to put some points on the board it will be IN SPITE of Pardew and NOT because of him – and that sort of contradiction at the heart of the club is no way to run a PL team chock full of internationals.

  • 429 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    @ 426 top remark

  • 430 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    spotlight

    he just baffles me….if we only ever play crap stuff then maybe i could just say he was a poor coach.

    but the fact he sometimes has us playing high up, attacking and moving well then all of a sudden changes back to rubbish for weeks makes me think he is also totally incompetent.

  • 431 jimmysmith // May 1, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    BandB – thanks for the heads up. I’d all but convinced myself it was that minx Maggie Thatcher and Alexander Haig.

  • 432 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Transfer,

    I can talk about football you know. Second favourites to go down now. But the bookies still think Wigan are ten times more likely. Which is a reassuring statistic. I feared we’d lose to Sunderland, but genuinely thought we might turn on the performance of the season against the Pool. Nolan is going turn to Carroll in the tunnel and say. “You are a professional. No sentiment. Kill ‘em off.” Who in our team is going to have that cold resolve? Professionalism is a mindset, and I fear we’ve lost it. From top to bottom.

  • 433 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Post of the season goes to Zero

  • 434 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    jimmysmith

    They were at it like rabbits. His Sidewinder was the talk of Fleet Street.

  • 435 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    bandb

    i know you can, don’t worry.

    I thought we’d thump sunderland but then after that like you i thought we’d turn up against liverpool, especially without suarez.

    I think if we had attacked them and took an early lead their heads would have dropped…would have though how can w turn this around without suarez. But we let them play and the early goal just settled them and gave them belief.

  • 436 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    I like this call to arms. Sums up what we need to do for 3 more games.
    http://www.true-faith.co.uk/fortiter.html

  • 437 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    BandB -as long as no washed out managers end up at SJP. I think there would be hell on if we get another poor quality/el cheapo manager. I think (using reverse logic) that Ashley has the potential to surprise us -hopefully in the right way.

  • 438 Mister Tuff // May 1, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    When management wheel out the underlings to promote themselves I always get an uneasy feeling -whether it be in football or any other organisation. It usually signifies something is adrift.

  • 439 Jackel001 // May 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Cisse: “We have a strong bond and we want the best for our Club, our manager and our wonderful fans.There is no divide in the team.”

    Tiote “We want to let the fans know that all of the players are committed and we are in this together.”

    Would like it if cabaye came out and said something just to cool the talk of him throwing a paddy.

  • 440 Roppa // May 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    A sobering thought for our next three crucial games: In 35 EPL games this season (excluding Demba Ba’s goals) the current squad have scored a total of 28 goals between them. In those 35 games we have conceded 66 goals. We are not set up to score goals & we are not sufficiently well organised as a team to stop them. Taxi for Pardew

  • 441 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Transfer

    When you look at the brains trust that is our defence, you can sometimes understand why he wants two DM’s and Jonas in front of them. The only way to push the midfield forward is to play the high line that Liverpool had so much fun with. Otherwise, our attacks all start from the full back position, and that’s a lot to do. Especially when your full backs excel at gliding upfield and meekly posting it back to their quarterbacks. And on Saturday, people who lost the ball in midfield made precisely no effort to get back. Mr Cartney (effing psychopath) would have made them spend all break-time running round the school field with a medicine ball above their heads.

  • 442 Novocastrian66 // May 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    If on Saturday; we win, villa and Wigan lose. We’re safe. Cannot see Villa beating Chelsea. Wigan would have to win there last 3 matches including beating Villa to finish above us.
    Just trying to get some positivity going here.

  • 443 cockneymagpie90 // May 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    Beattie…

    Thanks for mentioning me in the earlier post ;)

    It would be nice if you got the link to show me this sorry i was demanding…

    Or do you just listen to the top bloggers assume?

  • 444 JordanRobson // May 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    Photoshop is an impressive bit of kit. Lovely strips but easily fake.

  • 445 cockneymagpie90 // May 1, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    And assume?*

  • 446 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    if’s and but’s are of no use in any walk of life actions speak louder than words…………………………. lets have some action

  • 447 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    bandb

    the strange this is when we play higher and attack we look much more secure at the back as we pin teams back

    but too often we just surrender territory and let teams play in our half, annoys the life out of me.

    and did that work? if so get an order of medicine balls up there and give them a dressing down

  • 448 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Novo, im not entirely sure we will get relegated, anyone in the bottom half could, but im uneasy due to the lack of heart and soul in our squad. My biggest fear is not NUFC getting relegated this season, its this dire ‘acceptable’ performace the TEAM is putting in will continue into next season… how can pards honestly lift the team, make them play better, with more edge when he has systematically failed every task he has set himself.

  • 449 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Cock

    Beattie is too modest to style himself: “Won’t Sod Off, By Popular Demand.”
    So I’m going to wish you the best of British with all that stuff.

  • 450 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    novo

    villa play chelsea just 3 days after chelsea play spurs..so might be some tired legs

  • 451 Beattie25 // May 1, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Cockneymagpie

    Firstly thank you for your post. It must be intimidating for you to approach someone like me, a person held in such high esteem.

    In answer to your question, yes, I only listen to the bloggers that matter. We have a clique and are the highest intellects on the blog.

    I’d talk more but you are far from joining the elite. Back to the depths of depravity with you.

    If you have anything else to say to me please forward it to my PA and I will promise to read it and reply within 28 days.

    Yours

    beattie25

    p.s. I am the offensive insulting blogger that other people fear. That is my trademark and it is copy-written. Please do not attempt to steal any more of my material.

    b25 xxxx

  • 452 Sazzer // May 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Anybody seen this? Are we already preparing for relegation?

    http://www.fanatix.com/news/newcastle-united-ponder-shock-summer-swoop-for-unsettled-liverpool-midfielder/117312/

  • 453 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Or a dressing gown.
    I think the turning point of SBR’s career was in the Italia 90 quarter finals. The team said. “these tactics aren’t working boss.” He went with it. I wish Pardew had a jot of that wisdom and humility.
    I was amused by Dok earlier. He was using his bulge to sound the charge for Saturday. Perhaps he could stiffen our midfield?

  • 454 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    its a bugle ffs

  • 455 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    i was disturbed for a moment there, i thought he said buldge… (O.0)! then followed with stiffen our midfield….

  • 456 Transfer Sage // May 1, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    bandb

    surely the whole point of a captain is to do exactly what you just said. i’d be more annoyed as a manager if my captain was a yes man and didn’t tell me when he thought i got it wrong.

    i think this satuurday will help show if cabaye had a positive, even if heated, chat with pardew or if it was a total falling out like the telegraph said

  • 457 cockneymagpie90 // May 1, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    By ‘top bloggers’ i mean the ones who have too much time on thier hands to come on here at all hours of the day and bitch about me while im out having a life(ruddy,ibiza and you).

    That pointless essay you just wrote proves my point.

    Too much time and no life.

  • 458 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    OOOHHH!

    I completely failed to see it was a typo!
    Thanks for correcting me johntudor. I feel really silly now.

  • 459 GoalsBringSmiles // May 1, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Mike Ashley’s ‘five year plan’ in summary:

    Mike Ashley Role of Honour:
    07-08 Relegation Battle
    08-09 Relegation
    09-10 Win Championship
    10-11 Lower League Finish
    11-12 Europa League Qualification
    12-13 Relegation Battle

  • 460 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    oh crap it is a bulge wheres mrs debuchy

  • 461 GoalsBringSmiles // May 1, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Is Pardew the cause or the consequence?

  • 462 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Its pretty clear cabs and most the team (bar pards favs) have been dismayed at the swinging ship of tactics and miss positioning of pards book of tactics…. i doubt cabs will be looking to rock the dreamboat too much tho since his mate is now at the club and hes settled in the area.

    Hes probably just like us when we watch the match screaming ‘what the f**k are you doing’

  • 463 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    he is the consequential cause and effect

  • 464 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    Transfer,

    I can see Cabaye’s beef. And Collo’s. But I know myself. When you pin the badge on you get to argue your case around the top table. But when you step into the office, you have to hold the line, whether you got your way or not.

  • 465 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    JT,

    That made me smile.

  • 466 p // May 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    @452, to be fair it was probably delivered by “psycho”, most people would take note of that

  • 467 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    BandB

    Gratified to be a sensible lad ‘n’ all that but you have a touching faith in the accuracy of the British Press if you don’t think they wing it and play the percentage game in terms of accuracy of what they report – you’ve only to look at the recent enquiry to see that. The Telegraph, Guardian et al are governed by hubris at the exalted level of Editor or Sports Editor. Try reading Private Eye if you don’t believe me.
    Also the vast majority are southern biassed and London based – even to the point of the Guardian having specialist Northern reporters despite its own origins and, tis rumoured a Scottish reporter who works to the Foreign Editor so I don’t buy the caution angle at all.

    Transfer

    A sweeper system in the old fashioned way might help us out against making mistakes like agin the Fools when we play the high line.

    Novo
    I’m hoping that Wigna’s diversion at Wembley will tire them for the following week’s matches – they need at least three wins from 5 we need one from 3.

  • 468 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    wigna ? Wigan

  • 469 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    hey that made me laugh spelling not required

  • 470 jimmysmith // May 1, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    @458

    Ash has been a clusterf@ck, generally speaking, it’s true.

    It’s just I have this desperate need to cling to hope over realization, Toonwise.

    What a cross to bear!

  • 471 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    if pardew remains and we stay up, he starts the new season and is pointless after twelve, will he stay or go

  • 472 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    yo-yo

    I’m just relating opinions I formed over several decades….. I may be biased, but it’s not touching faith.
    And you may be right. Hell, what would I know…..

  • 473 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    It could be worse lads, we could support Sunderland lol

    i think if we get relegated, first match next season the lads should bouycot the match and 50,000 geordies should show up at gatesheads match. Prove a point to Ashley

  • 474 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Zero

    The Bay’s a better day out.

  • 475 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Aye probs true, i would have said the boro like since we’d be playin them but i carnt find my granddads gas mask lol

    Pools aint to bad if you dont mind fighting seagulls off your pie lol

  • 476 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    BandB

    My own bias is of total cynicism over the British Press – so I’m in the Hislop Appreciation Society when it comes to most media – including the BBC though I think the regional press and TV tend to be more ‘honest’ as they need their local audience.

    Anyway, back to the plot… what’s all this pally pally stuff between Beattie and Conckeny I’ve missed – has there been a rammie ?

  • 477 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Mike Ashley’s ‘five year plan’ in summary:Mike Ashley Role of Honour:07-08 Relegation Battle08-09 Relegation09-10 Win Championship10-11 Lower League Finish11-12 Europa League Qualification12-13 Relegation BGBS,
    Mike Ashleys saviour of our club,
    0-6 worst PL home thrashing.
    7-3 most PL goals conceded
    -23 worst PL goal difference
    Lowest PL attendance despite SD prices,
    The worst football we have ever seen.
    And of course :

  • 478 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    GBS,
    Copy and paste went a bit awry there but you get my point.

  • 479 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    You could always become a Tow Law casual and go looking for the latest Chris Waddle if yer going to boycott the Toon. Bit rarefiled up there mind

  • 480 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Jail, Ashleys done wonders for this club, perk up abit about it man. If he had signed the french lads in summer we’d have been singing his name from the roof tops, he made a mistake and is looking to learn from it….providing we stay up.

    Im pretty sure he wont risk leaving pards in charge if we stay up or get relegated, our playing style can only get better. I hear the tea lady is odds on to be the next manager with no tea and cakes if the lads dont play well as a threat.

  • 481 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Yo-Yo

    The press is a gelded, whipped dog. And TV is worse. It’s no way for a grown-up to make a living. Been there.

    Rammie is my new fave word. There’s been a Rammie Lammie Ding-Dong or two this evening. Showing my age, again.

  • 482 BandB // May 1, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    The Likely Lads are on the telly. Yay!
    Laters!

  • 483 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier-league

    I’m sure the 50% + 1 would make a huge difference to the EPL. This is a three year olkd article and even truer today.
    It would have saved us from Ashley, Shepherd and Hall as well as their less illustrious predecessors

  • 484 Jail for Ashley // May 1, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Zero,
    Apart from the back of the Financial times please elaborate.

  • 485 yo-yo // May 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    BandB

    You’ll enjoy stushie and stramash then – and beings a Toon fan ye’ll be totally scunnered after last weekend

  • 486 Zero // May 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Tea ladies after match interview.
    Jurno: So how do you feel about that performance

    TL: Well i was worried at the start, my victoria sponge didnt look to be done by half time and you tell the lads were worried by it, Jonas even went missing for a while..i think he was eyeing up a fans pasty.

    Jurno: I guess you got it out the oven in time they looked a completely different side in the second half.

    TL: Well yes of course i did…. Margery even brought some butter buscuits in, Cabaye loved them, did you not see him pointing to her when he scored his second goal.

    Journo:Well whats in store for the lads when they get back, you have the Derby coming up soon.

    TL: The lads look a little tired so ill give em some coco before they leave tonight so they get some good kip, non of that hankey panky stuff. Then ive got some cupcakes to sort for the defense if they manage to stop goals from corners and ive made a special carrot cake for cisse to help his vision so he can see the offside flag next time.

    :P

  • 487 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    yer maws a fanny yer grans a fanny and i believe theres a fanny in charge here in newcastle

  • 488 Slatymag // May 1, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Re Likely Lads

    Where exactly is Bob’s house? I’ve lived in Newcastle all my life, been a taxi driver for about 12 years of those, and I can’t recognise that street at all!

  • 489 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    pulled down 28 years ago

  • 490 Slatymag // May 1, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Where though?

  • 491 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    it was filmed here there and everywhere in n/east durham sheilds and the like

  • 492 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    yon side of tynemouth i believe

  • 493 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    hello dave

  • 494 Slatymag // May 1, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Can’t have been! Surely they are too modern and must be still standing.

    Got to love the opening credits where Terry puts his hand out for the bus on Bolam Street – I used to live just over the back of there. Ahhh, the Middle Club, what a shite club!

  • 495 Slatymag // May 1, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Just thought I’d recognise it as I can usually tell an area from a pic on Gumtree/ebay from the style of houses – that outside shot of Bob’s street I have no idea.

  • 496 GoalsBringSmiles // May 1, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    I confess your post made no sense, cut and paste really didn’t work for you there mate but I can at least infer that you are in agreeance.

    Listening to Bobby Vinton, drowning my Toon woes, I suggest you all follow suit

  • 497 scout // May 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Keep the faith people 3 points is all we need

  • 498 ErnestHemingway // May 1, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    I know some of the likely Lads was filmed in howdon in wallsend, my stomping ground. Otherside of town to you slaty.

  • 499 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    google it

  • 500 John Tudor // May 1, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    looks like a leech house

  • 501 ErnestHemingway // May 1, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    I’m not sure if it’s in an episode of the Likely Lads or if it’s the movie they made, but there is a shot of a tall block of flats….they were the 14 Storey flats in Howdon. Little bit of knowledge for you there.

  • 502 ErnestHemingway // May 1, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    I drove through Walker on my way home tonight from visiting my wifes mother and we were talking about Auf Weidersehen, Pet and how a lot of the second series was filmed in Walker. Also, when Neville see’s Dennis stopped at a set of traffic lights in a Jaguar….that is just outside the Tanners Arms in Byker. They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.

  • 503 John Tudor // May 2, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    i and michael pushed the fat counciler off corrie off multi story




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