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Newcastle Linked With Liverpool Man – Is He Good Enough?

11:27 am, Thursday, May 2nd, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 183 Comments

The Guardian is reporting today that Newcastle are interested in Liverpool midfielder Spearing, who was shipped out on loan last summer,  just like Andy Carroll, and he doesn’t seem to have a future at Anfield under Brendan Rodgers.

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Jay Spearing at Bolton this season

Andy went to West Ham and Jay has played at Bolton this seaosn, where he has looked good, and Bolton are  currently in 6th place in the Championship under manager Dougie Freedman, who left Crystal Palace last October, and has done well at the Trotters.

Bolton have 67 points from 45 games and could make the playoffs if they beat Blackpool at home in the last game of the season on Saturday.

Bolton have done a lot better than any of the other relegated sides last year – Wolves have been relegated, and are currently second bottom but cannot save themselves and Blackburn are 3 points from safety with one game to go but cannot be caught.

24-year-old Jay Spearing has been an important player for Bolton, and he’s certainly a tenacious player – but we wonder how much he would cost, and whether he’s good enough for Newcastle.

If we go down he could be a decent buy if he wanted to join a Championship club, but when we’ve seen him play he;’ looked a very decent player, but maybe not good enough if Newcastle stay in the Premier League?

Spearing has played 55 times for Liverpool with one goal, and he’s played 39 times for Bolton Wanderers this season.

He’s a local Liverpool lad and came through the Youth Academy after joining his home town club as a seven year-old – and he captained Liverpool’s FA Youth Cup winning side in 2007, who beat Manchester United in a penalty shoot out that year to win the trophy.

What do you think?

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183 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Mark29Hungary // May 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    He was a “wonder kid” 4-5 years ago…

    Maybe he has future if some midfielders leave in summer.

  • 2 Sam // May 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Wolves still have a chance to stay in the Championship. If they get all 3 pts, peterbrough/barnsley lost. They can play in championship for one more year!

  • 3 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Er..no !!!!!

  • 4 Rainrix // May 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Paper BS no doubt.

  • 5 andyajat // May 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Fine for the Championship if we go down…

  • 6 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    If Spearing and Carroll aren’t good enough for the team that beat us 6-0 at home without their best player why are they good enough for us?

  • 7 MosesNUFC // May 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    No, just please no

  • 8 davis_toons // May 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    We need some talented English players in the team to bring the level of football back to the KK erra. Just 3 will greatly increase the intensity.

    People of some talent, great attitude and great determination to play for the club.

  • 9 marc // May 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    this guy is pants how come we are linked to every player that might be sold

  • 10 jimmysmith // May 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Until recently, I’ve always pretty much just accepted Pards as the manager. It hadn’t seriously occurred to me that he should or might be replaced, but I’m so tired of this season that I can’t help feeling also less than enthusiastic about not just the manager and also half the first team regulars.

    Strangely, considering the goals we’ve shipped, I’d like to see the whole defence retained. Other than that, I can’t think of a single player that you couldn’t mount a reasonable case for moving on based on form, fitness or attitude.

    The season’s been a remorseless and hopeless and most of the players have been too. Who for example would you give player of the season too, if not Santon?

  • 11 wynsleap // May 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Unwanted Liverpool cast-off? No thanks!

  • 12 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Mojo

    Calling people idiots cos they don’t agree with you kind of shows you’ve lost the argument already.

    Go and tell the 52 000 who saw the last 2 games idiots.

    Re – lack of strikers. Hardly. We play 1 up front. Cisse and Ba didn’t work together although he tried making it for 20+ games.

  • 13 stuart no9 // May 2, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    a championship player for a championship club ???????????

  • 14 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    davis

    it just needs a manager to put people in their right positions in the right formation, not play 3x DMs at home with 10 people staying in their own half for long periods

    When all fit we would look fantastic in a 433

    Krul

    Debuchy Colo M’Biwa Haidara

    Sissoko Anita

    Cabaye

    Benny Cisse Goofy / Marv

  • 15 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    This is the funniest day ever.

    First Pardew Saying his teams are renowned for being on the front foot.

    Next we are being linked to Jay Spearing.

    Now Mojo is defending Pardew with the most blatant form of retardedness I have EVER seen.

    And Davistoon is showing how racist and shortsighted he is by saying English players are what’s needed to bring us back to the KK days.

    God this blog is hilarious.

  • 16 derekm // May 2, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    maybe ferguson had a point when he described us as a wee club in the north east – this seems to the level that the board think at

  • 17 Munster Mag // May 2, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Mojo, yes I can expalin why.

    1. Irrespective of injuries, every manager has to carry the can for performance over a long season. We have had long enough, even with injuries to accumulate the points needed.
    2. Even with strong new additional players ( I bet Martinex would have liked to have been given 20 mill ) we have got worse.
    3. Pardew is a defensive coach, who cannot press home an advantage. West Brom was a classic example.
    4. He is a defensive coach ( as described by Carver ) who now has the worset defensive record in the prem. Go figure.
    5. He has players who are worth far more – and are better – than players at teams like sunderland norwich villa etc etc. Our team is better – the coaches just cant make it work right.
    6. Who is responsible for our lack of variety and ingenuity at dead ball time??
    7. His constant excuses – he even blamed the senegal FA re Cisse, who was in shocking form at the time and not relevant to our chances.
    8. His unwillingness to move from 442 earlier in the season and his insistance on backing off teams when we have a lead.
    9. If you think he enjoys the respect of “the group” , why did the second team not raise a gallop at Brightom – and were “warriors” like Tiote so poor and carefree on saturday. Cos they dont respect him, thats why.

    If I had time I could go on. Maybe other will add to it. I appreciate that players have to do their stuff, but if you are abdicating Pardew then I’m afraid you’re for the mental home.

  • 18 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    since the villa away game (first game with all new players) we have
    w, w, l, w, l, w, l, l, w, l, d, l

    16 from 16 points = 44% of points taken since then

    multiply that over 38 games and it comes out at 50 points.

    So we would probably be better off over the season if we have these players but thats obvious…the main problem is a lot of games we have lost is when we have had a strong team out against a weak side.

    This team over a season should be able to get more than 50 points which is what would be predicted under pardew.

  • 19 Munster Mag // May 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Maybe we will be the most talented team / most expensive team ever to go down? Beattie, yes all our answers lie in stout hearted englishmen ! :) Cant beat a bit of old xenophobia. Obviously I wouldnt know much though as I’m Irish, and thick. Obviously.

  • 20 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    If people can’t see after the last 2 matches that the players don’t respect and have given up on Pardew, there really is very little hope.

  • 21 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    sage

    yes there was an initial flurry but now we are as bad as we were previously if not worse. before the pardew effect we were raving about the new guys but if you are constantly told to go on the back foot even if you are a goal up (Reading , WBA etc) by the manager your enthusiasm is going to wear off very quickly. The truth is pardew would be much happier with 11 x Perch types.

  • 22 Blofal // May 2, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Team for this week 5212

    Elliot
    Guti – Saylor – Colo – Mbiwa – Haidara
    Cabaye – Sissoko
    Ben Arfa
    Cisse – Goofy

    We are always caught on the counter because our LB and RB push so far up. If we are going to to that we need five at the back. I’d take Santon over Guti if I could of course. Or maybe replace Guti with Anita. As long as long as they feed it into the centre rather than cross it cos we are sh!te at crossing.

  • 23 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    rotonda

    I think in the liverpool game the players were fighting, just the 3rd goal made them stop playing which is a joke really. They came out 2nd half and had a go so not totally given up hope they will put in a shift no matter what pardew makes them do.

  • 24 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Munster

    What we need is an old fashioned English manager who can install the fight that English people are renowned for into these overpriced and passionless foreigners.

    I’m half Irish and half Scottish but I’m embarrased by that fact. God I wish I was English so I knew how to have more fight and determination.

  • 25 Le Belfast 007 // May 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    I suppose we should be happy he’s English. Maybe they’ve seen the flaws in their French player signing policy in the last few weeks..

  • 26 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    beattie

    don’t feel bad..us english are the best…no wait, we are actually pretty useless.

    I think people often say english fight when what they mean is either just fight or players who have experience in the league.

  • 27 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Munster
    1 When you have a small squad like ours,with injuries to our key players,we are going to suffer.We are not a top 4 team that can afford to have 2 quality players in every position.
    2 The new players haven’t played Premier League before,can’t speak English we would expect a decent pre season behind them to fully adjust but because we didn’t get them in the summer,they have had to sink or swim and some of them are sinking
    3 I seem to remember us playing good attacking football in the 1st half at West Brom,creating several chances that were not taken
    4 I firmly believe if we could put our best team out consistently we wouldn’t be in this position
    5 Player value don’t mean sh*t,Pardew and the coaches got it right last season didn’t they?
    6 I agree we are a shambles at dead balls,i don’t know who is responsible set pieces,but Cabaye does the same thing all the time
    7 Point irrelevant that happened months ago,has no bearing on where we are now
    8 Jesus christ,we don’t back off on teams when we have a lead,for example the West Brom game,West Brom were terrible in the 1st half,no closing down or energy,we went 1-0 up and should have had more before half time,they come out second half all guns blazing working hard and they have the home support,like i said if we had taken our chances we might have won.
    9 How do you know they don’t respect Pardew?,are you part of the dressing room?,no your not.
    Anything Else?

  • 28 Munster Mag // May 2, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Beattie, I know mate. Mind you I rekon a few John Andersons wouldnt go amiss right now. At least we might get a point here or there. I think the point about Cabaye been such a miss is a bit mute. He’s very good obviously, but we needed to find a way around that – learning to play without him. Anyway, if he had been fit earlier in season he would be inured now – the guy is not up the the rigours of that prem league.

  • 29 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Beattie,instead of saying it’s a retarded excuse for Pardew can you explain to me which points are retarded and why?

  • 30 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Pardew as a manager is an overachiever.

    He would rather have a team filled with James Perch types and allow them to overachieve and make Newcastle united a small club with a small team mentality. This is apparent by the way he often refers to other clubs as being bigger and how he always refers to us as having less than others. He has tried to bring down expectations so much to allow us fans to think 10th or higher is a great achievement.

    In truth he will always underachieve with a quality team because it is far above his talent level. I really think he wants to reduce us to a mediocre team so that he can be seen to be a fantastic manager when he has a half decent season. That was apparent last year and is even more apparent this.

    If he stays I will not be surprised to see Spearing come into the club and us fans made to feel great again after a top 12 finish.

  • 31 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    i hate you neggers

    :D

  • 32 Le Belfast 007 // May 2, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Oh I forgot about last nights statement lol

    Probably one of Llambias’s great ideas. Now a load of people who didn’t believe the story in the first place, will think it was true. Great work Derek…

  • 33 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    MrMojoRisin76

    i think you have been a sleep for 2 years,,

  • 34 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    mojo

    we do sit off teams constantly, we rarely are on the front foot unless we are behind…there are countless games where we have done this over this and last season.

    cabaye always aims for willo or taylor, that muct come from the coach, why else would he do it when it doesn’t work, he never does that for lille or france.

    players are out of position way too often, even when we have better players on the bench.

    anita was just coming into form and looking like he settledthen got dropped for tiote who has been useless all season, yet gets a place regardless.

    cisse and ba didn’t work so instead of picking one and having a good sub he left cisse on the right of the team, really didn’t work.

    there are so many things he does wrong in my eyes.

  • 35 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Beattie,And you call my post retarded” I really think he wants to reduce us to a mediocre team so that he can be seen to be a fantastic manager when he has a half decent season. That was apparent last year and is even more apparent this”,you really believe that?
    I have never seen a more ridiculous opinion in my time viewing these posts and i have seen some beauties.HA-HA

  • 36 brian kilclines pony tail // May 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    i disagree with your pardew defence but jim morison made some cracking music mr mojorisin.

  • 37 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Catchy,Get F*d,judging by your last post you haven’t the intelligence to respond to me.

  • 38 Munster Mag // May 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Mojo you are clearly unwilling to listen to reason. Most of your points dont make sense.
    1. We are not a top 4 team, so your comparison is irrelevant. We should at least be up where West Ham are – is that too much to ask of a team made up of some tidy talent?
    2. Then Pardew should not have bought them…the reality is, these players ARE good enough – and they have showed that – and then regressed. Personal responsibility yes, but when teams collapse like 0-6, it is usually a sign of a lost dressing room. Otherwise it would happen far more often. 3. Yes we lost chances v west browm, but if you back off them totally in 2nd half what do u expect. Did u see the Everton game at home? Same. Whats your excuse v Reading?
    4. No team puts out its best team consistently. Welcome to the real world. Pardew claimed at the start of the season that because many players could cover multiple positions, we would have consistency of application, or words to that effect.
    5.Yes we are a shambles at dead balls – so you blame a guy who is a brilliant free taker over a wall?? How about movement and variety. How many times did we aim for Williamson. Who drilled that – Cabaye????
    6. Player values do count – can u imagine a better coach making move of that (expensive) talent? Pardew must take credit for last year , I agree there, but I think two uniquely hot strikers helped him loads. However, fair play Pards – but u wont accept he has to accept the brickbats now ?? Whatever ….
    7. The senegalse FA excuse is symptomatic of a guy who clutches at straws. It was an irrelevant excure ( Cisse was so poor then I might have played myself ) …but Pards was all over Sky berating the Arficans. Unrealistic and unfair.
    8.I’m not privvy to the dressing room – but u know that teams who collapse almost invariably are totally undermotivated and lacking in resoect for their boss.

    The players have to cop on, but Pardew is poor – thats why he was out of work for ages after his last job – and has never managed a club near the size of newcastle, with any degree of succss. Neither does he come from a pedigree playing career where a gamble might be worth it. I used to like him, but I think I was hoodwinked, until Brighton. How he got the job uncontested is another question that needs to be answered………

  • 39 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    beattie

    i don’t think pardew wants to turn us mid table…i think he is just more comfortable working with basic players than he is with top internationals so will want a mix so he has options there.

  • 40 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Agree with all points TS – 34 and Beattie – 30.

  • 41 Barras // May 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    If Gutierrez is going to start, he needs to play as a CDM, it is as simple as that. He rarely scores goals, and he rarely obtains any assists, but he does work hard, and he does break up the oppositions play with his successful tackle rate.

    How can anyone want Gutierrez to start as a full back or a winger against West Ham? Debuchy is out, yes I know. We have Simpson or Anita.

    Has anyone learned anything from the Manchester City or Sunderland games?

  • 42 Rotonda heights // May 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Mojo

    Would Ben Arfa ever have got a game last season if Ryan Taylor hadn’t got injured?

    Pardew was forced to play Cisse, Ba and Benny in a front 3 which worked and then he inexplicably ditched it
    and wouldn’t go back to it just to suit Ba. very weak management.

    Some moments of individual brilliance by Cisse, Ba and Benny and some great fortune masked some very ordinary football.

    Pardew by the law of averages has 1 good season in approx 6. Is that a consistently good manager?

    None of the bottom 10 clubs or some even higher got 20M on 5 new players in January with half a season left to play.

    Those 5 players now look completely bemused by Pardew’s hit and hope for the best, shambolic and archaic, ultra defensive, hoof ball ideology.

    I have never seen a game as poor as the Sunderland defeat and did not think it could ever be any worse than that day. I was wrong, very wrong. I would say Debuchy’s sending off was a total 2 fingered salute at Pardew wouldn’t you?

    We’ve had every excuse under the sun from Pardew but look at his overall record and everywhere’s he been, it’s hardly coincidence he has a team struggling at the foot of the table yet again is it?

  • 43 boater // May 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Wow Rotonda is on the rampage today. Team sheets, team sheets, team sheets. I find it funny, people posting long, angry tirades followed by team sheets that are in fact so similar to Pardew’s.

    An army of people under the grand illusion that dropping Jonas will save our season. We lost 6 out of 7 when he was injured., but no let’s not trivial matters like that distract from our brainless campaigns. March on lemmings.

  • 44 hdavid23 // May 2, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Guys, just found this:
    http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/nufchitzfeld/
    I know Pards is still here, but I think he won’t be for long, and I think we should revive this petition. Opinions?

  • 45 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    boater

    Jonas is an important player in pardews system. when we defend all the game he is actually ok at that and does a good job, as a winger/left mid he should do a heck of a lot more going forward, defending is secondary in that position.

    I think the players pardew picks are realy that bad, one or two changes to his side, each person here would make different changes but it’s the approach to the game.

    “e say at west brom…exactly the same team first and 2nd half, really attacked first half and pressed the ball, played higher up etc and did well both offensively and defensively as they had no time to play the ball out and had to keep going long which we dealt with.

    2nd half we then went back to the defensive tactics and invited pressure on ourselves. Thats the issue, not the team itself but how he implements each person and the mentality as a whole.

  • 46 toonluvva // May 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    What worries me is that given Pardews negative thinking he will play a very defensive game against West Ham which we will lose perhaps by just 1 goal.

    That will further reinforce his bunker mentality for the QPR game, a game that we should looking at winning to make us safe. Once again we lose.

    After these 2 defeats you can imagine what his thoughts will be like for the Arsenal game. Worse still how will the players be feeling.

    I wonder if Pardew is still hoping for us to survive in the PL just because Wigan failed to gain enough points to go above us. It’s possible that he is right about that, but is that the way we want our team to approach matches?

    In any other well run club, Pardew would on be borrowed time at best, more likely he’d have been sacked . Unfortunately Ashley has from the start appointed his pals to run the club without thinking of the consequences.

    £70m or so next year Mr Ashley. That’s what relegation will cost you. Furthermore, we will probably not get straight back up like we did last time. Thats a lot of dosh to waste.

    Can you imagine someone coming to Ashley at SportsDirect and showing him how a particular part of the business was doing so badly that he was about to lose a whole stack of money?

    Hopefully Ashley will use the close season to reappraise the whole management structure at SJP from Managing Director downwards and implement sweeping changes.

    If not we will be seeing the same sorts of posts on these message boards season after season.

  • 47 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Munster,i have answered every point you made and i’m not going through it again,if you don’t understand the point i’m making that’s your fault

  • 48 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Sage

    I don’t think he wants us to finish mid table. I think he wants us fans to think mid-table is good.

    That way if he overachieves he is looked at like a God and if he underachieves then things aren’t to bad as we were only expecting mid-table.

  • 49 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Mojo

    I’d usually be like a dog with a bone when someone tries to insult me, but I’ll let you keep posting your rubbish as that is embarrassing you more than I ever could.

  • 50 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Why am i embarrassing myself Beattie?explain,i want to hear another one of your pearls of wisdom

  • 51 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Mojo

    Pearls of wisdom?

    I shall not put pearls before swine.

  • 52 toonluvva // May 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    On Pardews tactics, he reminds me of someone a long time ago who had the philosohy that because the game starts as a draw (nil each) the defensive minded teams will always prosper. This was when there were only 2 points for a win.

    Perhaps your side can nick a goal and then hang on to get all the points.

    It seems that Pardew has taken this approach too far, get a goal and then try to get back on level terms by backing off teams. West Brom being a game in point.

  • 53 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Just what i thought,you got nothing relevant to say.

  • 54 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    On the need for fight and determination and the need for Englishness.

    I think we can find a never say die attitude, leadership and desire in Central/Eastern Europe.

    I don’t think English men are the answer whilst I submit we need some more passion.

    For me a CB like Vidic is what we need. A big bad Serbian willing to take a foot to the face for the cause.

  • 55 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    And you don’t realise that I’ve just completely destroyed you even with nothing to say.

  • 56 Jamiemac // May 2, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    How deluded and full of hate can you be to claim Pardew wants to turn us into a small club? Did I really just read that?

  • 57 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    mojo

    what about the points i raised to you? be good to hear your view on those.

    I just think what you say is wrong, disagree with a lot of what you say. Nothing personal, just a different view so i wont insult you.

  • 58 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Pardew plays every game like we are Stevenage Borough in the 3rd round of the FA cup.

    Keep it tight, don’t be overawed and hopefully we can cause a giant killing against Reading.

  • 59 marc // May 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    marv is our best player including cab’s and benny by far we defo need to fit him in that team he rarely gives the ball away and can actually take a good dead ball

  • 60 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    beattie

    I agree he plays down expectations to try and take pressure off (not sure if it’s to make what he does do look better, can’t way it for sure).

    I would like to think he just isn’t comfortable with the top technical players and is happier having more of a mix. Instead of that being a solution what he should do is find a way through coaches, training courses etc to learn how to use top players.

  • 61 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    jamiemac

    You did just read that.

    I’m not saying he wants us to be a Wigan but he wants us to have small expectations so that a top half finish is seen as great.

    If that isn’t a small club mentality and an acceptance of mediocrity I don’t know what is.

  • 62 NUFC_LEAZES END // May 2, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    I personally think he’s alright but he’d become another dan gosling imo

  • 63 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Hi Transfer,i respect what you say,you are one of the few people on here who make sense,i have to go out now but i will get back to you when i come back,i have no problem with people disagreeing with me,it’s when people call you and don’t explain why that p1sses me off.

  • 64 marc // May 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    marv is our best player including cab’s and benny by far we defo need to fit him in that team he rarely gives the ball away and can actually take a good dead ball

  • 65 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    i buy into the pardew wants to turn us into a small club,

    i think pardew would be great for a club like acrinton stanley,

  • 66 low fell mag // May 2, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Football and peoples opinions really make the world go round especially if your a newcastle supporter.A month ago all i could do was disagree with everything Rotanda had to say,now i find everything he does say ,he is spot on.Mental.

  • 67 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    its a fanny ol gaym aint it

  • 68 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    what i find amazing and feel a bit sorry for mojo for is, only 3 short weeks ago, a few of us where in his position, coming in here trying to defend your point of view,

    the tide turns quick at nufc

    i find his points strange ti say the least, and wonder if he lines football, but respect he has balls to try and back them up

  • 69 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    likes

  • 70 John Tudor // May 2, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    yer maws a fanny yer grannys a fanny and so is pardew

  • 71 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Playing defensively against Reading at HOME, aka ‘sitting back on a lead’ was atrocious when we were ahead (note through more magic of a Cabaye freekick – not a team goal – again coasting on the brilliance of some of our players as his general goal getting basis, not fluid, COACHED team play) and is a blatant example of Pardew is all about and does week in week out.

    Even these quotes after the Reading game are filled with the similar rubbish “we had to digg in” which he was saying after he encouraged us to sit back and defend AGAIN against West Brom the other week…

    After Reading at home:
    ‘It was a painful day for us. We couldn’t have played any better in the first half but in the second we couldn’t get a grip on the game. You have to say Reading bossed that period but we gave away two sloppy goals.’

    If the imbecile hadn’t gifted the impetus back to Reading with taking Marveaux off and putting Perch on, they may not have had the open invitation to press further onto us when we were doing relatively OK before then.

    He then brought Cabaye off and said he had no choice but to do that as he had a niggling injury. Yet…

    He, after already taking off Marveaux who was one of the better players if I remember, puts on ANOTHER defensive player in Bigirimana when they had just scored. He showed his defensive cards once Perch came on with half an hour left!

    Meaning that regardless of Cabaye coming off, he already had the mentality to bottle it and try and nervously defend for half and an hour(!). What kind of message does that send out to the players each week?

    This was also followed by Anita, with the usually ineffective Obertan… Now, this is all bad enough, but Jonas STAYS ON THE PITCH. Why? To defend. 3 assists in 68 games doesn’t come from attacking well. We needed two goals, not to defend more!

    The fury of the crowd was massively audible, myself included, questioning why creativity had been AGAIN sacrificed for negativity at HOME against one of the bottom sides.

    If he has the mentality to do that against bottom of the league opposition with the players we have, then what hope do we have of positively progressing? None. Liverpool starting line-up as another example.

    If I was a Premier League player, never mind an international player I would be highly dissatisfied with this attitude to management.

    If we invite pressure on ourselves like that, they are going to simply attack us more and, in turn, are going to have more of a chance to score. Which they did, twice, after he made the first negative move and took Marveaux off (one of the already limited avenues to create a goal scoring chance).

    Thousands of people can see what he’s doing a mile off, yet the silver tongued propaganda which he tries to delude others into thinking, is shown in his team selections and highly distorted post – match interviews.

    To me, the game against Reading only highlighted further exactly the type of manager he is. A negative chancer, who has no real clue on how to structure an attack and retain possession when it matters.

  • 72 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Didn’t realise I’d ranted that much :-) Apologies for the long post!

  • 73 toon kk // May 2, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    It’s such a shame Newcastle has been like a soap opera ever since Cashley took over, one thing after another. Now we’re staring at relegation again. POOR management.

  • 74 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    I think people are being a bit unrealistic regarding the west brom game. Their home record is second to none and they were always going to put us under severe pressure at some stage.

    We are side under pressure so I think it’s a bit unfair to say its Pardews fault that we came out second half and just sat back. That played some fantastic football in the second Half just like we did in the first but you wouldn’t say west brom played defensive in the first half

    Oh and by the way, pardew out!

  • 75 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Big kirky

    Was at the reading game myself and honesty didn’t think pardew would make it to the villa game. Worst bit of managing I’ve ever seen. The crowd definitely turned on him big time. But nothing can fix that better than five new frenchies

  • 76 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    northernirishtoon

    I think people just blame him with the west brom as it’s the kind of thing he has done before.

    Whether it was them pressng us, us giving up territory or more likely a combination of the two people will blame pards as he has done it before.

  • 77 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    northernirish, yeah, was awful that. Mind bogglingly awful in fact. But it’s standard to what we see almost every week to a lesser extent from him.

    The real illusion is that if people aren’t watching the game for themselves over 90 minutes either at the game or on tv or stream, then people don’t know the full extent to how we’ve played and have to piece together reports plus go on Pardew comments like “subs made a real impact” when in fact we haven’t had a shot on goal in the second half.

    Far too much deceiving is going on from him, which is masking over what is actually happening with disjointed performances on the pitch.

  • 78 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    alo alo

    hmmmm

    why did it take so long for ppl to wake up

    we should all send luke edwards a nice email, for having the balls ti come out and say somthing

    well done luke :)

    we salute you

  • 79 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Sage

    I think it’s a bit harsh all the same. The same team started the second half that finished the first. If he had of made a defensive sub at half time then fair enough but to put the blame solely on him and not factor in how well west brom played second half is wrong

  • 80 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    transrfer
    northernirish

    my huge problem with the west brom game was , the second 45

    yes this is a hard ground to play at this season, but i think we did the hars bit by going in front
    he then decided to give up them the second half to see what they could do
    i seen little everdence of him beeing on the front foot, protect the leas, oh shit protect a point,
    looks good , not many will come here and get a point

    with that team, we should have got 3 points ,,,,

    full stop

  • 81 marc // May 2, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    @northernirishtoon

    thats prob coz pardew told them that westbrom would come at them so sit back and dont make a mistake in the first 10-15 min of that second half so in the back of their minds westbrom are coming for them by the time that time had passed we were already pinned and on the back foot

  • 82 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Catchy

    I’m all for your hatred if pardew

    But to say ‘he then decided to give up them the second half to see what they could do’

    I just think that’s not the way it works. Easy to jump to that conclusion especially with all the hatred that there is for him at the moment but I think that’s not the way it works

    If it was you could say west brom were playing defensive in the first half. And that they were happy playing for the draw which we know isn’t true

  • 83 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    northernirishtoon

    It’s never the team pardew picks (maybe one or two changes but usually ok) it’s more the way he has us sit deep and leave cisse isolated….it must be his plan, why else would it be so predictable and happen all the time.

    i think teams can come back into, so don’t think it’s just down to him, but i do think too often we give other teams the time and space to come back into it.

  • 84 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Marc

    Very true but a wild assumption to make all the same

  • 85 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Northernirish…Is that some reasonable perspective I see?

    Fair play mate. I think the West Brom is a really bad example being used by some. Not sure why they feel the need, there are many many games to criticise.

  • 86 marc // May 2, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    agree massively sage

  • 87 Hebburn Mag // May 2, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    When it comes to ‘new signings’ its obvious the positions that we need to strengthen/re-enforce. We need at least 1 top class striker, capable of playing with Cisse or alone. We also need another younger impact striker. Although the stats don’t show it we probably have the best defence we’ve had for years (Debuchy – S.Taylor/Collo – Yanga Mbia – Hadiara/Santon). The defence doesn’t need new bodies, it just needs training. i.e a defence coach brought in.

    The central of the park (Cabaye, Tiote, Sissoko, Bigi, Perch) is strong aswell although a new CM in there to mix it up abit would be good. I think Cabaye has realised that hes going to be played whatever the circumstances and has started to relax abit, he needs to be kept on his toes.

    We do have goals in the team but for some reason or another its Cisse that’s getting 99% of them, whenever we do score. (Cabaye, Cisse, Gouffran, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Sissoko, Anita, even Stevie Taylor). All of those players are capable of scoring goals and I think Cisse is finding it hard with the amount of weight on his shoulders to get the goals to get us out of the mess.

    Out of our whole first team squad we have 14 internationals. So we shouldn’t be anywhere near where we are in the table at the minute. With a few signings in the summer, early on in the summer so they can be integrated into the team we can aim top 10, after all top 10+ is where we need to be realistically looking at finishing next season.

  • 88 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    I’ll make a couple of points then i’m off out again.We do not score enough goals,in this league if you don’t score goals you’ve got problems,am i right in saying that we could have been 3 nil up at half time?if we were 3-0 up we could have seen off their spell of pressure early in the 1st half,if they scored we would have had a couple of goals cushion,we didn’t take our chances and look what happened.The Liverpool game,Pardew picked a defensive line up for Liverpool game and it backfired massively,but if Perch scored that free header from 6 yds out it would have been 2-1 and who knows what would have happened after that.What i’m saying is the players need to shoulder the blame just as much as the manager,if Cisse was in the form this season that he was last season we would be no where near relegation.

  • 89 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    *3-0 up at half time,i am talking about the West Brom game forgot to mention

  • 90 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Ibiza

    I thought today I would take the role of devils advocate. Try and get myself involved in a few discussions lol

  • 91 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Someone said after the West Brom game, that the commentator mentioned on their stream, that Pardew was actively discouraging the players from going forward and telling them to sit back or words to that effect… that was the commentator who had picked up on that. Dreadful, but highly believable.

  • 92 marc // May 2, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    i really dont want to belive it but i have a bad feeling about this weekend too

    another game we should win i just hope we dont get stuffed again its hard down here where i live as im one of a small bunch supporting Newcastle everyone who knows me gives me sh*t its waring me right down cisse please score a hatrick this week:)

  • 93 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    northern…Refreshing. It’s all getting a little ridiculous imo. Surely he hasn’t got everything wrong…always :)

    MoJo…I think the West Brom is a bad example for people to put down Pardew.

    Looking to players is reasonable, as despite his tactics, they could / should have done better than they have. I think peoples point is if he changed his tactics we could do better still.

    There is middle ground imo.

  • 94 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    mojo

    i agree, i said earlier football is played on fine margins but i don’t think it’s a valid excuse, over a season you are where you deserve to be.

    for all the games like west brom where we could have been 3-0 up or liverpool where we could have made 2-1, etc there are a lot of games where you could do the opposite and say if cisse missed the last min goals against stoke and fulham we might already be down.

    works both ways.

  • 95 DokToon // May 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    morning all,

    hows the doom and gloom brigade that is NUFC doing today ?

  • 96 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    marc

    west ham drew with man utd the other week and only lost 2-1 to city, not a terrible team so i think a point would usually be ok there….but given where we are we have to go for three.

    If we draw i won’t be angry at pardew or the team (unless we chuck it away) but more disappointed we never got 3, but i would accept it.

  • 97 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Howdy Dok, Fantastic!

    Only joking, terrible really.

  • 98 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Sage

    I think he tried to rectify that by playing a high line against Liverpool thinking we could press them high up the pitch and give them no room. That worked out well

    I think someone forgot to tell him that if you intend to play a high line it’s probably best not to play 4 defensive midfielders

  • 99 thejokethatisnufc // May 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Im from Wolves lol

  • 100 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    dok

    I’m good, hows things your side of the atlantic?

    I am surprisingly optimistic for the weekend, I think we will see a big push from us. The media will have hurt our boys pride, they wont want to be seen as cowards or unprofessional.

    Hoping the who training ground incident was more to do with tactics than just trying to win a popularity contest with most payers on their respective sides. Really hoping pards has listened to the concerns and will act on them.

  • 101 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    northernirishtoon

    our problem was we played a high line but didn’t press. if you don’t press the ball they have all the time in the world to wait for and pick out runs…if it can be done in 10 seconds its easy, if you give a player 1-2 seconds to make the run, see the pass and then play it they struggle.

  • 102 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    TS…You’re my hero.

  • 103 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Haidara is injured.

    Please amend your predicted teams.

  • 104 MrMojoRisin76 // May 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Transfer,do you think we would be in this position if we had signed the French boy’s in the summer like we should have?We are where we are supposed to be because as you know our squad cannot afford too many injuries to key players,we are not scoring enough goals,i don’t agree with your point on Cisse,it doesn’t work both ways,he’s paid to score goals,he has been a massive disappointment this season,constantly offside,terrible 1st touch when he does get some space,as i keep saying if you don’t score goals in the premier league your in trouble,look back at the last 8 games,some of the chances he has missed are ridiculous,i believe if he had taken that chance against West Brom we would have won the game and been closer to the 40pt mark than we are now

  • 105 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    No hadaira or marv for Saturday

    Looks like jonas left back.

  • 106 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    ibiza

    i’ll take that :) but why?

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Beattie..Really?

  • 108 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Yup

  • 109 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Sage

    I think perch and tiote took on the role of trying to press every player on the pitch instead of doing it collectively as a team. That’s why we’re left so wanting at the back cos there was no one there to protect the cbs. Crazy tactics. No shape

  • 110 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    TS…For finding some optimism when there is really no good reason to have any :)

    MoJo….I am completely with you and your reasoning tbh. I just think people have had enough of it and would rather have an attacking manager now. Truth is, in some games it would have helped, in others it may not have.

    Everyone has a different timeline with their patience.

  • 111 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Beattie…I didn’t think Pardew would be picking him anyway. No doubt he’s talented, but he did look petrified in that Liverpool game.

    How long is he out for and what with?

  • 112 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Spearing swap for HBA anyday. Hahaha

  • 113 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Carter…Do you not think we’d need to give them some money as well? :)

  • 114 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    mojo

    strikers miss chances, even the very best. I don’t think he has missed more than your average forward (i have no stat to prove this so can only really offer that as my opinion/view from what i see).

    I just think it’s easy to say we should have scored, but then you could say some of the strikes we get there is no way we should have scored them (cisse vs southampton this year comes to mind). He may miss simple but he scored so incredible, not that it balances out but i still think he converts an average amount of chances.

    (got it for team total but not player)

    http://www.eplindex.com/27890/how-well-does-your-team-convert-chances-premier-league-stats-comparison.html

    Not sure if you say but i posted earlier, since villa away (including that game) which is when the new boys all came in for we have taken 16 from 36 points, 44%…spread that over the season and thats 50 points.

    So i think if we have them from the start we wouldn’t be in this mess, but i still think with pardew they wouldn’t have achieved what they should/are capable of.

  • 115 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    ibiza

    thanks….i just like to have optimism in everything.

    well, except pardew’s future with is

  • 116 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    TS…With us or that is? :) I would imagine there have been words had in that dressing room, that is only natural. Hopefully they come out of it stronger, hard to think they’ll come out of it worse….he says hopefully.

  • 117 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    ibiza

    meant with us.

    I think he might see that he should listen to cabaye….then if we lose he can blame him..the tiredness excuse is wearing thin so there’s another haha

  • 118 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    TS….A bit like last season where he listened to the players and we went on that great run?

    Be interesting (not 100% sure that’s the right word) to see how things are on Saturday.

    Can’t stand the idea of having to get something against Arsenal on the last day. Going to need medicating if that’s the case.

  • 119 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Ibiza

    It didn’t say how long, it said he had a hamstring injury.

  • 120 Jail for Ashley // May 2, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Mr mojo ,
    Im afraid Pardew has gone past being defendable,I think it’s obvious when somebody has lost the plot and it’s not exactly a knee jerk reaction the guy has had two and a half years in charge now and we have definitely seen some of the worst football ever witnessed at SJP we put up with it last year as a Euro qualification gathered momentum,I am the first to agree we would not have been in this position had half of the French lads signed last summer but we still would have had the same sh1t football without the higher league position that much is clear now,I stuck defending him as I thought Spurs Swans and Wigan were a bit unlucky after that it has become despicable.

  • 121 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Beattie…Fair enough. Who would you play this weekend?

  • 122 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Good news is that puts us back joint top of the table.

    With Villa on the injury league table. Do we get any silverware for that? Perhaps an open top bus opportunity, which would need to break down of course.

  • 123 DokToon // May 2, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    TS,

    i felt optimistic the last two weeks, and look what that got me.. i feel horrible for this weekend, so maybe i can play reverse psychology… and well get 3 points :)

  • 124 santonthenewmaldini // May 2, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Is Haidara really injured ?!?

    Dear god we are in trouble then if that is the case I would possibly play Mbiwa at left back he would at least be better defensively than Jonas !!

  • 125 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    http://injuryleague.com/current-injuries/

  • 126 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    ibiza

    personally i would play west ham this weekend, otherwise we might be defaulted to a loss :)

  • 127 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    dok

    i’m sure this will make everyone here hate me but i’m a bit more of a casual fan and if we aren’t doing well it doesn’t hate me

  • 128 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    TS…Was trying to work out what I had said there….obviously I mean who of our players would you start against West Ham…smart ass :)

  • 129 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    ibiza

    ah i see…you must be more clear.

    i’d start marv, hba, cisse, campbell, shola, cabaye, colo, anita, sissoko, gouffran then willo in goal

    we might lose 6-0 but it will be more entertaining

  • 130 Rainrix // May 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    On haidara west ham hardly have the fastest and trickiest wingers in the world. As long as whichever fullback we can play can stop crosses coming in in the first place we should be ok. When the balls height its going to be tricky for colo and whoever partners him to defend against carroll and nolan.

  • 131 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    TS…Hmmm…I think just not going may get us a better result.

    I see where your optimism is coming from now, you’ve completely given up! ;)

  • 132 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Looks likes a complete makeshift back for west ham

    Mbiwa Taylor colo jonas

    Can’t see him dropping Taylor for willo

  • 133 Transfer Sage // May 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    ibiza

    honestly

    i’d play

    elliott
    simmo, tayls, colo, mbiwa
    anita, sissoko, cabs
    hba, cisse, gouff

    go for a 433, all the 3 in the middle can pass, attack and defend…give cabs more freedom but if one of the others bombs on he is capable of holing/filling in for a minute or two.

    i’d also have the front 3 fairly narrow, or at least one come narrow with cisse when the ball is on the opposite side.

  • 134 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Simpson Taylor colo jonas

    Might be better

    Can mbiwa play left back lol

  • 135 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    TS…Looks decent. Sage In!

  • 136 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Sage

    Good team

    Still think he will find room for jonas in there even if it is over mbiwa

  • 137 northernirishtoon // May 2, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Tiote will also be in there

    Damn you pardew! Your so predictable

  • 138 Hatem's better than Messi // May 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    So long as Pardew sets up up on the front foot as usual we’ll get the points that we usually get away from home with a Pardew team.

    Dead man walking, should have been sacked after Brighton … yet hear we are … waiting with baited breath for his team sheet which he’ll probably give away at the press conference because he’s an idiot and can’t keep his rubbery lips shut.

  • 139 Hatem's better than Messi // May 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    I don’t think HBA is match fit .. so I’d go …

    elliott
    simmo, m’biwa, colo, perch
    anita, cabs, jonas
    obertan, cisse, gouff

    hba, sissoko as 60 min subs.

  • 140 Owldman // May 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    If Spearing is the best we do then I am Definitely jacking it in where the hell did this story come from?

  • 141 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    TS – 33 that would be my line up as well now Haidara is injured.

  • 142 BigKirky // May 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    *133

  • 143 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    ibiza

    Tihis might sound mad but I would seriously play:

    Simmo-Willo-Colo-Perch

    Debuchy – Suspended
    M’bwia – Not fully adapted yet
    Saylor – Stupid and too much talk
    Haidara/Santon – Injured

    I can’t remember when but I seem to remember the above back 4 actually winning a game or 2.

    The need for quality attacking play has evaporated into the clouded abyss of the season. We need solid, compact and players who have points to prove.

    I never thought I’d say it but the next 3 games need to see the team be typically Pardew.

    We have not got enough confidence and the manager does not have enough quality for the team to play out of trouble.

    First things first is ensuring we don’t get beat against West Ham. If we draw we can be more adventurous against QPR. If we win we can chill a little bit but if we lose we are screwed.

    We need to scrap and fight for every ball and play ugly to win. Then when people realise that this type of football is dying then we can get rid of the idiot in charge.

  • 144 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    i hate doing this

    but

    id play 352

    ———————harper,, ( no faith in elliotte)
    ———-saylor- colo – M’bwia———-
    simpson————————–hiadara
    ————-tiote–sissoko—————-
    ——————-cabaye—————–
    —————–HBA———————
    ———————-cisse——————

  • 145 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    jonas
    shola
    obertan

    would be no where near the ground

  • 146 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 2, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    My back four would be
    Simmo – Iron Mike – Colo and Haidara

    Wouldn’t play Taylor – accident waiting to happen.
    Iron Mike knows his limitations and teamed up with Colo for most of last season.
    Haidara to me gives a more of a attacking option

    Reat of team same as Transfer’s

  • 147 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    HBA would freedom to do what he wants,, and when he got tired, marv on for him

  • 148 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Guys…haidara is injured.

    Beattie…back to basics then?

  • 149 ilovetoon8788 // May 2, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Interesting thing is, have we actually won more games with willo in the team than Taylor? Maybe he’s much better than we think he is?

  • 150 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Back to basics.

    Now’s the time to play like a team fighting for their lives.

    Next season is time to play like a team pushing for Europe.

  • 151 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    ilovetoon8788

    nooooo

    :’)

  • 152 ilovetoon8788 // May 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Obertan barely makes the bench even anymore..

    But he assisted for cisse about 4 times. Maybe we should start playing him. Drop Jonas for Obertan instead on the wings.

    But we all know Jonas and Tiote are going to be in the team.

  • 153 ilovetoon8788 // May 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Who do we have as contender for the worst player of the season?

    My pick is Tiote. Sight of him on the field irks me. Playing at league 1 standard all season long.

  • 154 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    ilovetoon8788

    haha

    noooooooo

    lol

  • 155 Spotlight Kid // May 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    The ONLY team that stands a chance:

    GK: S Taylor (= no penalties for using his hands)

    RB: Jonas (he’ll think he’s back at the World Cup)
    CB: Cisse (an expert on the offside trap)
    CB: Shola (he doesn’t have too much running to do)
    LB: Sissoko (AP has played him everywhere else but..)

    RDM: Elliot
    LDM: Harper

    RM: Benny
    CM: Colo
    LM: Marveux

    CF: Willo

    BENCH: Nobody – it’s DO or DIE!!

    Then tie up Pards behind the bike sheds and draft in Gary Numan – chain him to the dugout dye his hair silver and attach him to an iPod with ‘Cars’ on a never ending loop so he can do all Pards’ pitchside moves.

    SORTED!! PL survival.

  • 156 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    ilovetoon

    I agree. Tiote is the worst.

    1st- Tiote
    2nd – Shola
    3rd – Sammy
    4th – Gabby
    5th – Yohan

  • 157 santonthenewmaldini // May 2, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    I would go for this team on Saturday now that Haidara is injured :

    Elliot
    Simpson
    Colo
    Taylor
    Mbiwa LB
    Anita
    Sissoko
    Cabaye
    Gouffran
    Arfa
    Cisse

    This is the best team we have available if we played Anita at full back I think they would just target him with long balls obviously I think Pardew will probably play Jonas at left back but Mbiwa would give us height and would be comfortable defending against any wingers that West Ham have

    There should be no room in the team for Tiote he does not even do his job which is supposed to be making tackles and hounding the opposition he does not get near anyone these days just lets them walk right past him so what is the point in him as a footballer if he cant do what he gets paid to do?

  • 158 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 2, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Beattie…I basically agree :)

    For me, it’s play whoever is going to fight. If someone isn’t committed they don’t play.

  • 159 DokToon // May 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    i love saylor though, at least hes out there trying, and showing soem sense of giving a sh!t…

  • 160 mattnufc // May 2, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22381080

  • 161 catchy in norway // May 2, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    i think we are all looking at the players, and of what they have become
    rather than looking at them with what we know they can do

    ppl are slating tiote, and on his play, rightly so,, but we have to ask ourselfs is this how pardew is asking him to play?

  • 162 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    When did Hiadara get injured – not another in training.

    If so need to get it sorted – becoming a joke

  • 163 Beattie25 // May 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    And so the world implodes, madness reigns and the death of humanity brings about the pointlessness of football.

    All because beattie and Ibiza agree

  • 164 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Montpellier coach wants an england job. ‘Wink wink nudge nudge’

  • 165 santonthenewmaldini // May 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    @Catchy

    This is true about the players but is Pardew honestly saying to Tiote “let the opposition just walk through you unchallenged”, “Lose the ball every time you win it back”, “commit stupid fouls with challenges in dangerous areas that you dont need to make” “Take shots from 60 yards out”??

    I think Tiote has came up with that skillset that he shows in every single game recently all by himself either way he should not be anywhere near our team he should have been sent off at Liverpool in the 1st half as well cant afford for us to go down to ten against West Ham

  • 166 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    At least one good thing from all this boring banter is that I am doing more uni work…

    To sum it all up –
    Pardew out
    No one knows the new strip
    We are being linked with anyone and everyone
    We would all pick a different team to Pardew
    We cant shut catchy up anymore
    Too many French
    Too many injuries
    No fight / passion / hunger
    Tiote is worse than Abeid
    Simpson gets a last bow
    Elliott is over rated
    We were too quick to rule out Colo
    Cabaye had too many negative emotions
    Ben Arfa is off
    Perch is player of season
    We are going down
    Ed is filling us with optimism

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    On a serious note, glad we go into the hammers game as underdogs. We always play better when we are underdogs

  • 167 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    P.S

    We wont go down

  • 168 nufc_eire // May 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    From the BBC interview with Rene Girard

    “Maybe there are also some big clubs in the Championship who have ambitions to get back into the Premier League, that could be interesting for me,”

    He’s definitely talking about us then. If he brings Belhanda with him then happy days!!

  • 169 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    I wouldn’t say ed is filling us with optimism quite the opposite actually but everyone’s feels it.

  • 170 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Wigan are in worse position

    Villa and Scum are in equal

    Norwich and Southampton are slightly better

    Stoke and Fulham still arent safe

    Cisse will score the winner v Hammers
    Ben Arfa will score the winner v QPR
    We’ll get beat by Arsenal in a high scoring game

    Just call me Mystic Meg

  • 171 iggystinger // May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Surely not jay spearing jesus suffering lol

  • 172 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    NUFCarter, its sarcasm mate

  • 173 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    We are getting our players from France now we could be getting our managers from France. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Renes coaching team replacing NUFCs current one if he joins.

  • 174 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Tinman
    Oh right, I apologise.

  • 175 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    I dont think form matters a toss when you a scrapping for survival at the end of the season. If you ignore our away form we have arguably the best run in of all those teams.

  • 176 ajcrawfs // May 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 13m
    Rene Girard the Montpellier manager who is leaving in June has told @BBCWorld that ‘it is his dream to manage in England.’ #MHSC #PL

    Newcastle United maybe?

  • 177 ajcrawfs // May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    should read before i post maaaaa

  • 178 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Figueroa is out for the season I’m
    Not sure how much effect that will
    Have on wigans survival hopes?

  • 179 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    By the way if anyone does think we are going down I would take the 17/2 that can still be had on Betfair

  • 180 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 2, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Scary thought
    Toon could be in bottom three by the time they play QPR with a worse goals difference than Wigan and the rest at the bottom.

    AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • 181 p // May 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    wtf is going on with our team’s fitness, appalling

  • 182 NUFCarter // May 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Who’s injured now? Is it haidara?

  • 183 ichrisho // May 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Pardew on WestHam…. One Word – Balls

    We’re pulling together, trying to get a result, and the fact that we have a lot of French players and some language difficulty has been kind of torn up and made to be something else.
    “There’s no problem and we go to the next game.
    “If you think, because the players are from a foreign countries or some of our players are not bothered, it’s just ridiculous. Of course they’re bothered. Our frustrations and our professionalism are on the line but we have the destiny of ourselves in our own hands.
    “No-one else – we’re not in the hands of anyone else. Only us can put it right. We’ve got a little gap so we need to exploit that and make sure we extend it.
    “I haven’t even looked at the run-ins of the other clubs because it’s very, very important that you focus on yourself. The destiny’s very much in our own hands and we need to make sure that we get the wins that we need – if it’s two wins, if it’s three wins, I have no idea.
    “Some of the wildfire that we’ve had has just been way, way off the mark. But we put a poor performance in on Saturday and we need to put that right. That’s the most important thing.”




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