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Pardew – Nobody Will Break My Spirit – I’m Trying To Put It Right

10:51 am, Friday, May 3rd, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 231 Comments

If you are a Newcastle manager, you can expect a lot of heat if things are not going well, and if things look like they are going to hell in a hand-basket – you can expect the pressure to be almost unbearable – and that’s what Alan Pardew has had to face this week, after Newcastle’s 6-0 loss to Liverpool – the worst home defeat since 1925.

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Alan Pardew - nobody will break my spirit

Alan Pardew gave his press conference yesterday, followed by a number of interviews with local reporters, and this is some of what he had to say in the Newcastle Journal today:

“Nobody will break my spirit in terms of trying to put it right.” “I have a strong philosophy of how I think the game should be played and we’ll try and fit in that motive for the next three games.”

“We need to play a brand of football which threatens the goal a little bit more because if you say to me what is my biggest concern I would say ‘goals’.”

“I have just conceded six but sometimes if you are threatening the goal a little bit more you don’t need to defend as often, and you can defend with a little more confidence.”

“We need to offer a little bit more threat going forward – that’s the key for the next few games.” “In terms of dealing with outside influences – which we’ve had a lot of this week – we’ve gained from that.”

“We’ve gained a lot of experience from that.” “I’ve had my fair share of it from clubs I’ve been at.” “I understand you get all sorts of accusations thrown at you.”

“There’s not much you can do. You can deny them but it might add fuel to the flames. Sometimes you don’t know whether to fight some issues or just let them ride.”

“Some of them we think have been completely left-field and we have decided to fight in some areas and not fight in other areas.

We had a lot of interviews form players last week saying how they were going to put things right against Liverpool, after the disastrous 3-0 defeat against Sunderland at home.

And yes – we are getting the same thing this week – but talk is cheap – very cheap.

What we need is to see a committed performance form our lads tomorrow at Upton Park, but we also need to take something out of the game – we must take something out of the game.

But to be honest – we’re not sure what to expect tomorrow.

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231 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Ok so pardew realises pressing high and going for goals can win matches and help in defending. Good? I’ll believe it if and when i see it.

  • 2 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    What spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 3 belgrade fan // May 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    There r news in my country that we finished job with Lille def Aurelio Sheidjou and he will sign for us at 1st day of transfer window. Also Cabs helped with this

  • 4 WWYCD // May 3, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Offer more in attack? Drop Sissoko deeper and play 433 ditch the 4231 as we clearly arent good enough to do it with any level of success

  • 5 surreytoon // May 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    This is why so many are critical of and fed up with Pardew.

    With the team we have, technical, attacking players – why do we start games so slowly, tentatively and invite pressure for large portions of the game?

    I think the big losses against Fulham and Spurs last season really affected us. We lost those games because we were so open and attacking we got sucker punched so many times. After that we seemed to change completely into the current defensive mentality.

  • 6 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    “I have just conceded six but sometimes if you are threatening the goal a little bit more you don’t need to defend as often, and you can defend with a little more confidence.”

    then why do we always defend a 1 goal lead

  • 7 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Sage… Im praying thats pardew finally coming to the realisation that attacking is the best form of defence.

  • 8 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    sage

    go figure!!

  • 9 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    “I have just conceded six but sometimes if you are threatening the goal a little bit more you don’t need to defend as often, and you can defend with a little more confidence.”

    WOW ! No s..t !!!!!! This guy’s an Einstein.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    wwycd

    i think 4231 could work…really suits our players we just dont play it right

    the deep players can’t be out and out DM’s…chelsea used luiz and lampard last night, both can defend but offer plenty forward.

    we could play anita and sissoko there, let them break forward when needed but can hold too. Then have cabaye, marv(gouff if unfit) and hba like they use oscar, mata and hazard..all better in centre but ben arfa can move out wide and do well.

    the cisse and torres.

    You see with chelsea when they play it they have players running past torres all the time, gives him more space and creates more options for the threw ball too.

    just wish we could play it properly, no matter what shape we adopt it’s always defensive.

  • 11 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Reading between the lines I think the players have said attack or else…!

    Best thing the players can do it is totally ignore pardew and play their own natural game.

  • 12 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    sage

    threw balls – where were they thrown!!! sorry grammar police

  • 13 cape town geordie // May 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    if you want to put things right just quit pardew……..How does laurnt blanc sound as our new manager when we survive

  • 14 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    rainrix

    It’s my biggest criticism and also my only source of hope in Pardew.

    He can get us playing well, just more often than not we decide to drop deep and don’t want to attack even though when we do we look better at the back as well as offering a threat. Really annoys me as he must see this but for whatever reason doesn’t do it.

    It’s also hopeful that if he ever does see it and realise it then maybe he can make a success of himself (if ashley decided to keep hold).

  • 15 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    FROM PREVIOUS THREAD

    catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    lets set a record, a new one
    4 own goals
    all from corrners

    carrol and nolan to score hatricks

    yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Catchy

    Let me get this right… You want us to lose 6-0 with two hat tricks against us or 10-0 (two hat-tricks and four OGs).

    As either result would almost certainly mean relegation and the article is about player loyalty – and I don’t doubt HBAs comments – then can you clear up your own position.

    TS

    I also believe that 4231 can work for us just as you say but we need the mid 3 to work the channels as well as attack centrally. Oh for a player the quality of Mata just now

  • 16 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    belgrade

    any more details on that?

  • 17 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Rotonda

    the annoying thing is i sat and thought about that, typed in ‘threw’ then sent my comment and thought, why did i type that haha

  • 18 John Tudor // May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    the man is devoid of spirit apart from the mothers ruin

  • 19 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    yo-yo

    we con’t need a mata, but would be nice, we just need our attacking players to be allowed to use their experience/ability to roam a little behind cisse and go where they think they have space.

    everything is way too rigid with us

  • 20 belgrade fan // May 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Rotonda, I ll translate
    Lille defender Aurelio S will leave France at the end of the season and will sign for the TOON in the first days of transfer window. Two clubs already agreed all terms about transfer and Aurelio will be the first signing for the TOON. Cabs helped transfer to be realized as he connected TOON with Aurelios agents and Lilli

  • 21 WWYCD // May 3, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Sage
    I agree it can work when played correctly but u need to be organised at the back and, imo, it works best with a striker who can hole onto the ball and allow other attackers to get forward and Cisses first touch is close to that of a bull in a china shop 90% of the time and when he does get a hold of it our other lads stroll up the pitch

    I think its time for a change might liven up the lack lusts s**ts

  • 22 ErnestHemingway // May 3, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    I don’t think the issue is whether most of our players are French, the issue for me is every club needs a core of players who are either homegrown or players who have completely bought in to the English culture and the Premier League and understand what is required to compete in this country. Every single remotely successful club has had and will continue to have this. I think it was Beattie who mentioned that he see’s us as being similar in many ways to Dortmund. I can see where he is coming from, but they have a youth system which has produced a vast amount of players who have progressed to the first team.

    In my humble opinion, purchasing the amount of foreign players that we have, in such a short space of time, while selling a lot of experienced Premier League players, is a very dangerous game. It’s a massive gamble by a gambling man; Mike Ashley. We will find out if he wins this particular bet soon enough.

  • 23 mindshaft // May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    pressing high against west ham is prob a good idea given they don’t have pacy wingers / forwards – however it’ll be a disaster against qpr and arsenal

  • 24 ErnestHemingway // May 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    For what it’s worth, I can realistically see Wigan picking up 6 points from their four remaining games. They know draws aren’t enough for them, so they will be going out to win games (perhaps this is something Pardew should consider doing). I can also see us picking up 1 point from our remaining games, which would result in us being level on points with Wigan. Goal difference could save or relegate us.

  • 25 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Sage

    This is the tragedy of Pardew. He is shown tantalising glimpses of what could be something special, ie the 433 with Benny, Cisse and Ba and then turns his back on it.

    He never had a plan B when Ba said he was playing central. He tried to play Cisse out left instead of Ba when it clearly didn’t work.

    Pardew never considered alternating Ba and Cisse in the middle with one on the bench ( could have helped our tired players!) and playing Benny and Marv either side of Ba.

    As you say the first half v wba was good then he completely retreats when we were just for once on the front foot.

  • 26 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    ernest

    didn’t do arsenal any harm, but then they had a good well respected and successful french manager.

    I really don’t think it matters where you come from. You could turn it around and say we have a strong predominant French speaking contingent (African players too) and not a collection of many different languages

  • 27 sparky55 // May 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    The game we have to win is against QPR as there is very little chance of getting anything from theWest Ham or Arsenal games. We have to use west ham as a training session to get the mindset, tactics and formation just like when we went to Arsenal and Man U over xmas. We have to play like that again to get anything from the last 3 games because if we go out with the ‘try not to lose’ set up and mentality then we’re guaranteed to lose and go down. We have to ATTACK instead falling deeper and deeper as we get pinned back

    harper
    Simpson, Colo, taylor, Anita
    cabaye, Sissoko, Perch
    Ben Arfa, Goufran, Cisse

    Sissoko and Perch sit, cabaye provides the link between midfield and attack, ben arfa provides the guile and goufran and Cisse put them in the back of the net!

  • 28 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Sage….. Well its nice to have hope :). At the same time this quote troubles me:

    “I have a strong philosophy of how I think the game should be played and we’ll try and fit in that motive for the next three games”

    As its been said he’s a defensive minded manager first and foremost and i think no matter how well we attack and defend by attacking he’ll always be a defensive manager and at any second we can default to the horrible football we’ve had all season. I’d like to see him fundamentally change his philosophy but i just dont see it happening.

  • 29 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Thanks belgrade

    Just pray we’re still in the PL and a new manager is on board.

    Ridiculous amount of talent going to waste otherwise

  • 30 jail4pardew // May 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Sparky, play mbiwa n saylor with colo in front of them, reads the game brilliantly, better all around then perch who isn’t the worst but a stop gap type.

  • 31 John Tudor // May 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    pardew wont change style players tactics because he cant his mindset is that of a shrew

  • 32 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Rainrix

    Allardyce always said he would change if he had better technical players. Never happened. It’s in his, Pard’s and Pulis’ D.N.A. Long ball and hopeful flick-ons.

  • 33 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Rotonda… Yep thats why he has to go. Its an absolute dinosaur of a play style. If he could show he could change his mindset then im sure he’d bring a lot of people back onside but it just wont happen.

  • 34 Big Pappa Cissé // May 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    “We need to play a brand of football that threatens the goal” ? . Is this the same guy that played two DM’s against liverpool at home. I seriously think Pardew has some kind of double personality syndrome. He talks a good game during the week and then when it comes to the weekend Mr. Hyde comes out and plays awful teams and tactics :) .

  • 35 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    rotonda

    surely if he stumbled onto the 433 he should have at least the vision to see it worked and to try and stick with it.

  • 36 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    YoYo,

    Your making something out of nothing there.
    Read the posts above, catchy is referring to the fact that people are joking about zero expectations means we wont disappointed and bet against us and we might win.
    Trying again and again to make catchy look stupid only makes you look stupid yourself.

    I dont agree with all his opinions, but if you ask me, that comment by you is much much worse

  • 37 sparky55 // May 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    jail4 pardew…good shout…the brazilian lad at chelsea has proven that can work

  • 38 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Pardew is absolutely clueless, how we even took him on was a joke. It seems obvious now that its because he owes Ashley money, or some kind of favour. I think if he loses this job he loses eveything! He is a desperate man. A man on the edge.
    Thats why he is finding it so difficult to change. The pressure is simply too much for him.

  • 39 Santon03 // May 3, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Does he see things so differently with what we all see? I mean at least 100,000 fans all over the world hate, got frustrated, angry with the way our team play, seems like he is the only one loves our current brand of football and thinks we put pressures on opponent the whole 90 mins.
    Why is it the words that came out his mouth always contradict with the truth? There must be something wrong with his brain, it’s like all some of the cables in his head are disconnected.

  • 40 rotherschild // May 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    TO THE NUFC BOARD. HIRE DAVID GINOLA FOR THE NEXT 4 WEEKS. HE WILL GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS TO TE TEAM
    PARDEW HAS PROBLEMS SPEAKING ENGLISH SO FRENCH IS NOT IN HIS TOOL BAG

  • 41 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    rotherschild, I wouldnt mind that tbh. Doubt its going to happen though.

  • 42 toonLYF // May 3, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    ———————Elliot———————

    Simpson–Taylor-Coloccini–M’Biwa

    ——————-Anita———————-
    ———–Cabaye—Sissoko————–

    Ben Arfa——–Cisse———-Gouffran

  • 43 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Who would I choose as Toon boss? Berkamp.

    Extremely talented player.
    Young and ambitious.
    Played in the ‘invincibles’
    Great tutor when playing under Wenger
    Great philosophy at Ajax
    Knows how to win

  • 44 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    “I have a strong philosophy of how I think the game should be played and we’ll try and fit in that motive for the next three games.”

    So, same as usual then Pards? Players out of position, out of form sit back and hope for the best?

    If he’s saying he has a strong philosophy, then it is obviously so strong he doesn’t want to change his direct style of play from what we’ve been already seeing surely?

    The philosophy against Liverpool was 4 defensive midfielders in same team, with Jonas to create(?)and Cisse again, by himself chasing shadows up front.

    That isn’t going to win games. That is there to try and not lose them, but look what happened.

  • 45 Big Pappa Cissé // May 3, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    @ Lyf

    With our current fit starting 11 that is our best team for sure but we all know Jonas & Tiote will find their way in the team.

  • 46 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Oh and lets not forget he is an absolute class act

    Unproven yes, maybe that will give him added hunger to prove himself at a project like ours.

  • 47 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    @Lyf

    BPC is right, was just about to post the same thing. Would love Pardew to surprise us though!

  • 48 chris_g // May 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    belgrade fan // May 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    There r news in my country that we finished job with Lille def Aurelio Sheidjou and he will sign for us at 1st day of transfer window
    ——————————–
    Do you mean Aurelio Sheidjou or Aurélien Chedjou? The fact you can’t even get the player’s name right doesn’t give me much confidence in the accuracy of this story.

    If it is Aurélien Chedjou that you’re talking about, he’s 27 years old and still has 3 years left on his contract (30 June 2016). I thought it was only possible to tie up a pre-contract agreement if a player is out of contract at the end of the season, which he clearly isn’t.

    Also, he’s valued at £10.500.000 according to transfermarkt http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/aurelien-chedjou/profil/spieler_45624.html and there’s absolutely no way that Ashley would make a commitment to shell out that sort of money if he doesn’t even know what division we’ll be playing next season.

    Sorry mate, but this story is total bullshit.

  • 49 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Tinman

    As Catchy has previously stated he has wanted us to lose and even talked about a relegation being worth it to get rid of Pardew then it is entirely a fari request – like it or not.

  • 50 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Ladies and Gentleman, Boys and Girls, how the hell are we all doing this fine day?

    Just to make sure I’ve got todays news correct –

    1) Ben Arfa is happy at the club and is offended by the speculation that he’s on his way out.

    2) Pardew is saying he’s learned that we need to attack to relieve pressure off the defense?

    3) Nolan is sad about our current situation but will show no mercy.

    4) Llambias is p*ss*d off with journalists but is handling the Benny article with a little more nous that the Telegraph.

    All sounds good, although I’m more interested in seeing the response tomorrow.

  • 51 Jesus1983 // May 3, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Harper
    Simpson, Taylor, Colo, Mapou
    Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Jonas
    Sissoko
    Cisse

    I think thats how Pardew will set up tomorrow. Elliot may start but i’m hoping Harper gets the nod. We have only lost one game when he’s played (0-3 vs Man Utd) ;)

  • 52 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Yoyo,

    Agree to disagree. Just think its quite sad that you would go out of your way to argue with someone. I.E the repost. Doesnt seem necessary to me. But nevermind.

  • 53 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Morning Ibiza, all in all, the news seems quite positive this morning. However, like you, I can’t see the bright side at all until we get some more points on the board.

  • 54 Le Belfast 007 // May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Really wish they would all just shut their mouths & stop talking bollox to the media. They’ve talked the same shi* all season long.

  • 55 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Tinman

    A clip to support your view of Dennis.
    I think he might be a stunning first team coach but whether he could take on the full management role is another thing entirely.
    If the Gooners want him – well that’s where he’ll go.
    There are other players of his pedigree now coaching so we’d need to scout somebody equally capable

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-want-dennis-bergkamp-inspire-1815193

  • 56 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Jessus1983,

    I dare say your right. If I was a betting man I would agree with that as being Pardews selection. Not the team I would play though, I’m sure its not the team you would play either?

  • 57 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Belfast…Sadly they have to talk to the press, you do know you don’t have to watch or read it? Tw@ x

    Tinman…Hello there. If they can come out of this mess with some positivity it will do us the world of good. In theory, losing to Sunderland should have been the spark, but I’ll get over it if they kick on now – lord knows we need something right now.

  • 58 Jackel001 // May 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    By the sounds of most of the comments from players and Pards it seems like they are just going to attack..here’s hoping!

    Also if we do stay in the league, I would go for scott sinclair !

  • 59 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Tinman

    You’ll know Catchy’s reputation and my longstanding difference of opinion with him over wishing bad things on us just to achieve a change of manager. Sometimes he does not express himself clearly so might want to clear up his view on the WHU game. I made no attempt to slag him out – I hope we have a truce on that score.

  • 60 Beattie25 // May 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Pardew on the West Ham game via nufcstats:

    “The big difference between the two sides on Saturday will be they will have much more Premier League experience than us.”

    Well there’s his excuse already.

  • 61 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    YoYo,

    I expected him to go to Arsenal at some point, although I did expect it to be later on in his career.
    As for management, it depends on the man himself, does he want to be behind the scenes or does he want to be the main man.
    Looks like he is fairly unatainable though if both Arsenal and Ajax want him badly.

  • 62 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Le Belfast

    Agree but don’t you think it is wonderful that Alan is now saying attcak might be the best form of defence ?

  • 63 Le Belfast 007 // May 3, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Shut up Ibiza you kernt !!

    For your information the Stoke players have not spoke to the media in weeks, because Pulis stopped them until they were safe…

    So 1-0 to me sucker……

  • 64 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Tinman

    But… Bergkamp is exactly the calibre of technical coach we need if we are to move forward at all.

  • 65 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Jackel, what kind of wages will Sinclair be on? Seriously doubt that will happen.

    Beattie, its a never ending stream mate!

    YoYo, truce.

    Ibiza, I was at the Liverpool and Sunderland games. Will take some forgetting! Doubt Pardew will ever be forgiven, although the players will be if they work hard and get us out of this mess.

  • 66 Le Belfast 007 // May 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=stoke%20players%20media%20ban&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk%2FStoke-City-Fans-miss-Tony-Pulis-bans-player-media%2Fstory-18745538-detail%2Fstory.html&ei=xpuDUaTsConb0QXXz4GQCg&usg=AFQjCNGhj8fmQWdNZ5x_K7c0QT0Lb_6XqQ

    Oh how I love being right… ;)

  • 67 Beattie25 // May 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    You guys are funny.

    You always fall into the trap of not understanding Pardewisms.

    Showing more threat going forward doesn’t mean attacking West Ham you fools. Why lead yourself into thinking that? Experience shows that how you interpret Pardew isn’t how he interprets himself.

    Showing more going forward means that we will play Shoal up top with Cisse in a 4-4-2. He means there will be an additional forward on the pitch. Not more intent of forawrd play just more to offer up front.

  • 68 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Belfast…Having to use Stoke as an example to prove you’re right? How the mighty have fallen :)

    Can Stoke players actually talk? I would expect more grunting and knuckle dragging tbh.

    Anyway, probably the best news today…Lawro has us to lose tomorrow!

    Nick Grimshaw on the other hands has us down to win 2-3. Always thought that lad knew his stuff :) Just don’t check out his Man U vs Chelsea prediction…

  • 69 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Le Belfast, Twitter not classed as media these days mate? Ha Burn….

  • 70 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    This is why he hasn’t been a good manager over his career:

    “We need to offer a little bit more threat going forward – that’s the key for the next few games.”

    That is the key for every game Alan, and EXACTLY why we’re in the mess that we’re in in the first place you prat.

    If you can’t/don’t organise your team to create chances, how do you expect to score each week? You look to score a goal out of nothing and rely on the quality of player which we have to bail him out. Which is what he’s done for 95% of the time since he’s got here.

  • 71 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Beattie, or maybe Sissoko out wide to give us more emphasis on the wing. Har Har Har

  • 72 geordie157 // May 3, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Attack in our case would definitely be the best form of defence.

    Elliot
    Simpson, Taylor, Colo, Mbiwa
    Anita, Sissoko
    Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Gouffran
    Cisse

    Subs

    Harps
    Wilo
    Perch
    Tiote
    Obertan
    Shola
    Campbell

  • 73 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Beattie…I don’t think anyone is taking his words on face value, are they? Pretty sure most people are saying words are easy, let’s see what they do tomorrow.

    I do agree though, we are pretty funny.

    Have you started writing up a Pardew to English dictionary? Could be a big seller.

  • 74 geordie157 // May 3, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    oops didn’t put Jonas on the bench, oh well.

  • 75 stuart no9 // May 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    if pardew has identified the problem , then we should see a different newcastle take the field against west ham.
    Historically we have a terrible record against london clubs, so bearing in mind our last 3 games – west ham- qpr – arsenal some how dosnt fill me full of confidence- take that with our current form= not good, however, pards says he is going to put it right so—–carry on !

  • 76 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    geordie157,

    Just had an image of Jonas chasing after the team bus. Hahaha class

  • 77 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Tinman…In that image, did he fall over?

    More importantly, did he stop the bus?

  • 78 Beattie25 // May 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Ibiza

    Pardews words are almost as boring as the fans saying ‘lets see what they offer during the match’.

    Heard it time and time again this season. It’s so repetitive for us all to say ‘let them do their talking on the pitch’.

    Problem is, what else can we say?

  • 79 geordie157 // May 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Tinman,

    now that would be funny, although Pardew could never leave his favourite behind.

  • 80 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    He whipped out a Spiderman mask and just held on to the side of the bus…

  • 81 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Beattie…Probably as boring as saying that we’ll lose.

    Truth is, there is nothing left to say. Just need to get some points and get this season over and done with.

    Ed…Can you close the blog down until the end of the month? We’re all bored :)

  • 82 Jackel001 // May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Tinman

    No one would pay the wages hes on now and if he any brains he will realize that, Mancini has came out and basically said that he’ll be away in the summer so why not offer time 30 40k, gives us some much needed width

  • 83 Beattie25 // May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Ibiza

    Ha ha ha.

    That sounded like I was insulting you.

    I wasn’t I promise, I just meant I’m bored of all this chit chat about the press and the excuses and the rest. All this talk from nufc to the fans is boring and all anyone can say (including me) is that we need to do the talking on the pitch., which I am fed up of saying this season because we haven’t done it once despite saying it about 30 times.

  • 84 Beattie25 // May 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Ibiza

    My only worry is that the players seem totally convinced 1 win will do it.

    If we win tomorrow they best not go on holiday early!!

  • 85 Tommyy // May 3, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    What we really need is movement.

  • 86 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Beattie…Trust me, if I was ever to be offended by you, it wouldn’t have been that post :)

    I get what you’re saying completely. Far too many times this season all we’re left with is to wait for the next game, which comes along and nowt changes.

    Agree with your last line too. We need to see improvements not only against West Ham, but our last 3 games. This season is a write off and can’t be deemed as a good one, but let’s end it as positively as possible.

    How long is Debuchy banned for? Is it one game for 2 yellows?

  • 87 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Tinman

    On the subject of forgiveness for APs management this year
    I will find it very difficult to forget the 3-7 and 0-6 losses, the long losing streak and the 0-3. This means I can never quite trust him again to not dump us in it with one of his frequent and embarassing ‘blips’ by tactical miscalling games – and his inability to get the guys pumpped up for the big games – thoiugh he seesm to be hinting now the guys are too pumped up and ignore team directions.

    If I felt he could turn us round with a new coaching teaam -as we already agree – then I’d bite my tongue and watch to see if it happened. My curent view is that he’s dead man walking anyway, so hopefully its academic.

  • 88 Le Belfast 007 // May 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Ferk off Tinman & let me have my moment…

    It’s not very often I get one up on that twat, so let me enjoy it please.

  • 89 Jackel001 // May 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Ibiza

    Yeah one game.

  • 90 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Beattie

    If wigna take two wins and a draw from four I’ll be suroprised but that is the reality we need to face. You do the arithmetic but I reckon we need 4 pts min to be sure to be sure

  • 91 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Belfast…Don’t go saying things like that, I feel a little guilty now.

    Let’s all take a moment to value Belfast. No sniggering.

    Jacke….Cheers.

  • 92 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Ibiza and Belfast

    Kiss and make up guys or we might just go down… it’s all hanging on blog peace till next Tues 2000 hrs when we’ll know what we’re up against

  • 93 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    yo-yo…Everytime I try and be nice I get accused of online grooming :)

  • 94 Le Belfast 007 // May 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Yo-Yo i’m not going down on anyone, especially not Ibiza.

  • 95 Spotlight Kid // May 3, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    I-BBPD@71
    Have you started writing up a Pardew to English dictionary? Could be a big seller.

    He’s too late, KK is just about to release the Football Manager’s Phrase Book, with a special chapter dedicated to AP. Apparently it comes in two halves and apparently is 110% normal size! I didn’t actually see it myself….

  • 96 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Le Belfast, just had a look all of Stokes twitter accounts are frozen… (hopes no one checks)

    Right I’m off anyway boys. Au Revoir mes amis!

  • 97 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Spotlight…Shame. Was sure we were on to a winner there and Beattie could have become our new chairman.

    Oh well, back to the drawing board.

  • 98 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Ibiza

    As long as its not jeux sans frontieres yer okay

    Belfast

    that would be a bit too oral now …

  • 99 DokToon // May 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    gmorning lads…

    like sands in the hourglass, these are the days of our toon…

    good to see the bickering continues, :) ibiza… stop picking on lesser lifeforms…

  • 100 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Pardew out

  • 101 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    I will take a loss tomorrow if wigan lose!

  • 102 Hatem's better than Messi // May 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    I don’t think anyone wants to break Pardew’s spirit.
    Again defensive, playing the victim.

    I for one don’t buy into Pardew’s philosophy of how the game should be played.
    The majority of games I’ve watched in the last two and a half seasons have been mediocre with more than a fair share of just plain humiliating.

    No more lies, spinning, blaming and pathetic excuses for our performances.
    Pardew will be paid off as per his contract, thanked for his contribution to the club and he can leave with his dignity and spirit intact.

    We’re not animals … breaking his spirit, poor little Pardew … at least he’s driving this train wreck!
    We’re just passengers, involved and watching without any control or say .. ffs we’re the f###ing victims.

  • 103 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Dok…Good day. Then who’d be left to pick on? Only joking, not really that arrogant, only slightly ;)

    yo-yo…Aye, it’s only in good humour. United we stand (as long as he’s not too close mind).

  • 104 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    we will win 3-1 tomorrow and 2-0 at QPR

    can see us finishing 12-14th.

    No idea why i think this mind you.

  • 105 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Transfer, I did the predictor on BBC, had us winning those two games and it put us to either 13th or 12th or something. Wouldnt it be nice ;)

  • 106 Jackel001 // May 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Imagine if we totally wipe the floor with WH tomorrow win 3-0 and all players play in right positions and no jonas…. dreamy

  • 107 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    i still think wigan can’t do it but the more i think about it swansea, west brom and villa are all winnable games for them…they have a reasonable chance to win, would put them on 41 points..unlikely but possible.

  • 108 DokToon // May 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    TS,

  • 109 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Borussia Dortmund’s motto is “Echte Liebe” (English: “True Love”).

    Ours is Hoofe feste (Hoof fest)

  • 110 DokToon // May 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    TS,

    may i have a gallon of what you are drinking kind sir? i need your kind of faith :)

  • 111 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Ibiza

    Yeh I know yer pals and would bend over backwards for the Toon :)

  • 112 DokToon // May 3, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    ibiza,

    there is always a plethora of unwashed mackems out there…. :)

  • 113 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    DOK

    In case of TS, its self fulfilling prophecy

  • 114 Hatem's better than Messi // May 3, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    TS & T-P

    I have no idea why you would think a losing, demoralised team with a lousy away record, would win their next two away games?

    If we do and I hope we do, it will beg the question, what have you been doing for the past eight months Alan?

    Poor bloke can’t win … (definition of a loser?).

  • 115 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Dok..They’re not even good sport mate :)

    yo-yo…Well played ;)

  • 116 northernirishtoon // May 3, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Alan Pardew: When the fixtures came out, I didn’t think we’d be battling relegation. And I probably wasn’t expecting West ham to be safe

    Good timing again there Alan with that quote

    Moron

  • 117 Ginger // May 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    I have a strange feeling the scum are going to go down…

  • 118 northernirishtoon // May 3, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    AP says west ham will have “much more Premier League experience than us” on Saturday, but we can “make up for that in quality or energy.”

    This is the murmurings of a mad man

  • 119 eaststandgeordie1982 // May 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Scott sinclair free to leave citeh he would be class for us just what we need on the left hand side thoughts????

  • 120 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Eaststand…Thoughts? Yes please. Would be a good backup to Jonas.

  • 121 eaststandgeordie1982 // May 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Not when we have a new gaffa haha

  • 122 Big Pappa Cissé // May 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    A few young players We should go after

    Karim Frei
    Scott Sinclair
    Redmond
    Ince

  • 123 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Eaststand…Was hoping someone might jump a little stronger on that joke :)

    Be interesting to see how much they value him at now. It’s not like he’s progressed at all.

  • 124 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    No Ibiza

    We get jokes unlike you who takes everything on Face value

  • 125 eaststandgeordie1982 // May 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Ibiza

    Rafa the gaffa would drop jonas for a more direct player.

  • 126 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    We should try for vincenzo montella

  • 127 Big Pappa Cissé // May 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    I would take Rafa in a heartbeat. He realized Luiz was wasted as a CB and pushed him into the DM role and he is starting to look brilliant for them. Major step up on Pardew IMO

  • 128 Ginger // May 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    I’d love Scott Sinclair.

  • 129 Jail for Ashley // May 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    I really hoped I am proved wrong in the same way as I was when Cisse signed instead of Danny Graham but I don’t think Pardew will be fired.

  • 130 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    yo-yo

    i was taken the piss out of pardew

  • 131 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    I’d love scott sinclair’s GF

  • 132 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Indian…Another joke? They all seem a little angry, so forgive me for being unsure.

  • 133 eaststandgeordie1982 // May 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Indian

    Shes as thick as mince would be able to cope with how dumb she is.

  • 134 eaststandgeordie1982 // May 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Would’nt*

  • 135 santonthenewmaldini // May 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    @Ibiza

    I actually remember Mancini complaining about teams buying his cast offs last transfer window saying other teams should just pay the going rate and wages !!He forgets that Citeh had to bribe these players with money to make them come!

    With that in mind I think Sinclair could possibly be had for about 5 or 6 million I think that would be a good deal especially if we were looking to get rid of Obertan

    Still need another quality winger though Lee Clark has already said he would like some of our players on loan next season again how about we gave him some money for Redmond plus Tavernier, Vuckic and Ferguson on loan?At least they would be getting game time

    Saying that I dont know what it is but I have a feeling that Ferguson is going to come back after the summer and make an impact on the 1st team especially if we do sign Carroll there should always be a place in the squad for a player of his crossing ability even its on the bench

    Might just be me being romantic and wanted someone to come through the ranks again !!I just feel he never got a fair crack at the whip and a team with a more positive outlook and better movement who gave him the ball in dangerous areas he would create lots of chances per game

    I also think we will beat West Ham 2moro I think Benny , Cabaye and Cisse will have taken the criticism to heart over the week and perform the way we know they can

  • 136 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    dok

    just stick the straw right into the petrol tank of your car, i find it gets me through match days.

    Hatem’s better than Messi

    No idea why, probably wont. Saw something at west brom which gave me hope, some good football and if we took our chances could have been 3-0 half time. Hopefully we will create the same at west ham and even a negative 2nd half shouldn’t cost us.

    With QPR they put up less of a fight than us, their players just want to be gone. The only danger is harry has sat down and said i’m staying, you 11 are my championship team, show me you want to be here and come back up. But i think we will beat them.

  • 137 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    I have been reading up on BVB

    Their sporting director is was one of their top player and has most appearances for the club.

    Why can’t we have Shearer or sum1 of that ILK as our sporting director

  • 138 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    “We need to play a brand of football which threatens the goal a little bit more because if you say to me what is my biggest concern I would say ‘goals’.”

    It is unreal what he comes up with. It’s as if he’s solved the problem, yet apart from half a dozen games last season, this has not been his pathetic “strong philosophy”.

    What an idiot he really is. Goals is his biggest concern? Yet filled the team with defensive players for the last game and advocates trying to hold on to a lead instead of going for another goal.

    He is a dreadful manager when working with quality, technical players, and is a con-man.

  • 139 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Eastendgeordie

    Dumber the better

  • 140 woolerbill // May 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    SPARKY55

    I would give you the job for the last three game. I agree with every word, I couldn’t have put it better.

  • 141 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    indian

    Because a footballing man would tell ashley that he needs to bring more players in, improve coaching, develop academy, etc and that costs money.

    We leave all that to llambias as he just says things like we have a great 8mil deal with wonga and renaming the stadium is a great idea mike…he is another yes man like pardew.

  • 142 TimKrulFan // May 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    I wouldn’t be so annoyed at pardew if I thought are squad was poor but this is the best squad we have had in 10 years.

  • 143 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Santon…I’m all for sending the lads who aren’t quite ready yet out on loan. Much better to be getting games than sitting in the reserves.

    Agree that ferguson could stick about. He has looked good in most of his appearances. Much has been said about the youngsters this year, but if we had been able to play one or two maximum at a time, within a confident team, the outcome could / should have been a lot different.

    “Might just be me being romantic” – :) That’s Newcastle for you mate. A romance that constantly kicks us in the nuts.

    I have been saying it over and over that I expect the lads to come out fighting, I only hope with the extreme negativity being thrown about that they do this time. It will either unite them or drive them apart…I know which one I’m hoping for.

    Back on to Sinclair, Mancini sure does chat some rubbish about transfers. I think your value is about right, I suppose it all depends on who else is in for him.

  • 144 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    tim krul

    i wouldn’t be as annoyed if he was just crap. But he is crap, arrogant and can see a working formation/style then changes back to crap.

    it’s so annoying.

  • 145 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    What are your thoughts on Liverpool and Southampton both saying they would reject entry to the EL via fair play, not because of the extra fixtures, but because they don’t feel they would be worthy having not got there through league standing?

    Sounds like a load of b*ll*cks imo.

  • 146 santonthenewmaldini // May 3, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    @Ibiza

    Yeah we will lose out on any bidding war for English players if it comes do it Southampton and West Ham are just 2 of the teams that would offer more cash than us which is a bit worrying !!

    See we are linked with Mccarthy at Wigan?He is a cracking wee player a wee terrier snapping at heels but can also play I really doubt Wigan would want to sell too us though he would be an upgrade on Tiote and Perch

    See that striker we were linked with found a video of his goals scores some spectacular ones in this video:
    http://hereisthecity.com/2013/05/03/five-facts-about-newcastle-target-ideye-brown/?

    Could this guy be the alternative to PEA as we will likely lose out o him although do we really want another African striker who will be away every 2nd year!?

    Really hope we win this weekend as the Toon has ruined my last 2 months its shite being on a downer on a Monday morning after we have got beat especially in the manner of the last 2 defeats

    Arfa has to start from the beginning 2moro would love it if he was in the no10 role 2moro West Ham would not expect that at all

  • 147 Dennis Twice // May 3, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Fight Toon fight for premier rights!!! Toon ! Toon! Toon!

  • 148 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    ibiza

    probably because liverpool will want to push for champs league and with their squad will find it hard to get top 4 with those games….southampton the same but with voiding relegation not top 4.

    plus you start it july so messes up pre season.

  • 149 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Any guesses what is the name of FC Nurmberg’s stadium name is?

  • 150 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Santon…I’m split on our transfer policy. In some respects I think fair play, good on them for standing strong, but they at times need to be a little more lenient to get the right players in.

    Not sure on McCarthy, as I don’t watch a lot of Wigan. I am still hopeful we can get the old Tiote back. When he’s on form he is some player.

    Saw that video of Brown. I’m getting to the point where I don’t care too much who it is, we just need some sensible ST cover as our options have been woeful since Ba left. PEA would be fantastic, but he is attracting interest from all over the place, so not getting my hopes up.

    Arfa in the No 10 role is all well and good, but if we can’t get the ball to him without hoofing it he’s wasted there. Having him a little further back at least get’s him into the game more.

    3 points tomorrow would be fantastic. No one is expecting it, but one thing I do expect from supporting this club is to always expect the unexpected :)

  • 151 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    TS…That’s my thinking. Sounds like they’re trying to make themselves look good and I’m not buying it.

  • 152 yo-yo // May 3, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Catchy

    :-)

    but here’s hoping for that unlikely away win at WHU anyway…

  • 153 Dennis Twice // May 3, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Do not Hatem, love them all!

  • 154 santonthenewmaldini // May 3, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    @Ibiza

    Have watched a lot of Wigan he offers the same tackling and pressing that Tiote at his best does but then offers so much more on the ball when he has it plus he can score goals would be an upgrade but I cant see him going to us anyway we will just have to hope Tiote rediscovers form

    I honestly think in the 1st half 2moro we will not hoof it at all I can see us giving West Ham the runaround like the West Brom game its going to be all about us taking the chances and scoring more than 1 goal for the inevitable backs to the wall performance 2nd half !!!

    Saying that we will have Danny Simpson back and he is amazing for backs to the wall we have certainly missed his goal line clearances ha ha

  • 155 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Santon…Ah yes, the return of the statistically best RB in the league from last season :)

    So you’re expecting a similar game to the West Brom encounter? I could go along with that, hopefully we take out chances this time. I do expect them to get at us early after seeing our last 2 games. They will try and make us nervy as quite frankly, we’ve had no answer to quick pressure recently. Hopefully the guys start with the right mentality, like they did at West Brom.

  • 156 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    santonthenewmaldini

    yeh we could have done with 6 of those of simmo last weekend haha

  • 157 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    yo-yo,,

    yes ,, im all up for that,,

    i wish the guy would just keep his trap shut,, week after week, he says the same shit,

    if he has just figured out now that he needs to score goals,,
    god help us
    :(

  • 158 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    On a plus side… because of some of the players which we do have, if we managed to get lucky and not concede or only concede one, we have wonder strikes by Ben Arfa, Cisse and Cabaye to put all our hope onto.

    Gouffran has got some good power in his shots too.

    I know I’m clutching at straws :-/

  • 159 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    One way or the other

    in 2 weeks all this tension will be over :)

  • 160 DokToon // May 3, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    wait… wait a second.. you mean if we attack, we may score goals, which means we would win a match, and because we win a match, we get these things called “points”, which again, theoreticallly, helps up move up some theoretical table of sorts???

    this theory is more brilliant than relativity!!! who woulda thunk this up? :) whoever did should get a nobel prize!!!

  • 161 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 3, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Nobel prize in chemistry for Pardew,

    because of all this experimentation he as been doing.

  • 162 Benji84 // May 3, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    dok toon love your thoughts. I honestly think we should farking go for it on sat!!! I still think WH are pants and to be honest on paper we should win. What gives me hope is that first half at west brom. And to top it off it was away from home. If do the same at upton and take all our chances we be 3 zip up. what you think?

  • 163 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    What is likely to infuriate me if we win (which in itself would be amazing obviously!) would be if Pardew starts giving it the big shakes that he’s got his team to perform, when all along his methods have in fact led to a continuous decline.

    Whatever happens in the last three games, I hope the team stays safe but it doesn’t end up making him look any better late on either, because he does not deserve it in my opinion.

    If he was trying to be positive with the side I’d be a lot more lenient, but he’s doing far from that and it’s getting worse.

  • 164 Benji84 // May 3, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    laurent i totally hear you!!! I think what all of would hate is that him to produce a miracle and win the next 3 games and say yeah well come its all easy and keep his job. Pissed off

  • 165 DokToon // May 3, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    benji,

    if wins happened on paper, well, we’d all have paper cuts…i say toon should go for broke, everything to gain… pards should follow a simple philosophy, “who dares, wins”… not, “we get a goal, and play turtle for 82 minutes, like the aston match…

  • 166 northernirishtoon // May 3, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Note to pards…..

    ‘You think your clued up
    I think your glued up
    Your seen everywhere in town, But your never with a friend
    You know everybodies name
    YOUR THE KING OF PRETEND’

  • 167 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Okay guys, obviously bad timing as people couldn’t be more fed up with him, but lets say we do see a new approach, that many people have been calling for and it works. If he kept it up, would you still have an issue with him or would you want him changed, even not knowing who he’d be replaced with?

  • 168 Benji84 // May 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    dok i hear you brow everyone loves a good paper cut!

    But i still think we have enough fire power and skill in the midfield that we should get an early goal settle the nerves and push. But who am i?

  • 169 Benji84 // May 3, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    the only thing that shitss me more in any sport is when a team does crap coz of poor management and then they get a few wins everything is forgotten.

  • 170 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    ibiza

    i’d like him gone in the summer regardless of these next 3 games and just have to trust we will replace with a better manager.

    If he does stay though i will judge him off what we see next year. I’ll cancel out these two years and just say go and play the way we should, if he doesn’t then my calls for him to go will go stronger.

    Still rather he is gone though as i don’t think we should give him more time, we need to just get somebody in that style.

    Rather have a manager with good style and little experience than a manager with poor style and loads of experience (means he is less likely to change from that poor style).

  • 171 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    benji…So that would be a no then? :)

  • 172 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Transfer…I am all for a better manager, absolutely. I do have doubts about who we’d target as a new manager mind, but that’s a different conversation.

    I suppose I was wondering whether the levels of hate have gotten so bad, that if he did learn from his mistakes (and assuming he kept it up) would people give him a fair chance?

    I think it’s highly unlikely now tbh.

  • 173 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Ibizatoon

    hmmmm

    i have to laugh

    isnt that what has been done all season up to the sunderland game

  • 174 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Ibiza…. People regardless of results people are going to dislike pardew as a person due to his interviews, arrogance etc. If he got us top 4 an FA cup trophy, made us play wonderful football and then rescued a child from a freezing lake people would still be calling “pardew out!” Honestly if he adapted his style i’d see it going back to the sort of atmosphere we had around november december, some defending him some calling for his head.

  • 175 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Catchy…Say what now? :) He’s had an attacking philosophy up until the Sunderland game?

  • 176 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    ibiza

    i wouldnt trust him with a pub team

  • 177 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Ibizatoon

    according to himm

    all his teams play on the front foot ;)

  • 178 Benji84 // May 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    ibiza NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and no!

  • 179 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Rainrix…I can see that.

    “What is Pardew thinking saving that child, does he not know we’re over populated? Pardew out!” :)

    Okay then. So to have Pardew accepted he needs to:

    1) Not give interviews.
    2) Get us top 4 each season.
    3) Win a trophy next year
    4) Save or not save a child.

    Simple enough really.

  • 180 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Ibiza, an upgrade manager needs lined up first before he’s given the boot. I wouldn’t want him fired then not have anyone come in even a week or weeks later. It needs to be a smooth and quick transition.

    Player recruitment stays the same with Graham Carr, so it is basically for the new manager to coach the team and give him preference on the scouted players.

    All the players and staff as well as the manager himself knew O’Neill was going THREE games before Di Canio took over I was told from a friend.

    Anything could be going on behind the scenes right now at St. James’.

  • 181 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Catchy…it was a hypothetical question based on him actually playing that way, not him just saying it :)

  • 182 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Laurent…Really? Is that a reliable friend? Can’t see O’Neil putting up with that tbh, but who knows?!?

    Like the idea of a nice and simple handover though.

  • 183 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Ibizatoon

    trouble is,,

    this football would come back, because this is is his game,

    its like you with spanish, yeh you can prob speak a bit,, but if possible, you would always prefer english

  • 184 santonthenewmaldini // May 3, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    @Ibiza

    I am of the same position as Transfer Sage with the results and performances along with the bizarre tactics and playing players out of position there is no way that he should still be in charge next season

    But I honestly think that Ashley would rather keep him rather than the whole proceeds of having to sack him and the coaching staff cause thats what would have to happen the whole staff needs uprooted from fitness coaches to youth team coaches as we are not producing at any level really

    If though he is kept on after this season and they give him the tools that he says he needs to succeed which for me would be more specialist coaches, better fitness coaches, 2 strikers (1 rapid and 1 Carroll), 2 wingers, a proper No10 and a center back then I actually think he would be able to turn it around

    If they just keep him and dont really invest I could see us getting relegated by maybe even a record margin

  • 185 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Benji…Fence sitting is my thing, say what you mean ;)

  • 186 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Ibizatoon

    king of the fence

  • 187 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Catchy…Says a lot about your view of him if you can’t even entertain a hypothetical situation :)

    Not arguing your reasoning to be clear, I get your point.

    Santon…I can go along with all of that. He is limited for sure, but with the right tools he can “do a job”. I think people think I desperately want him to stay, which isn’t the case, honestly :)

  • 188 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Ibiza, yeah 100%

    Never know, he could be keeping Pardew in there as a smoke screen while he gets his ‘upgrade’ manager in. As nervous as that line is to say.

  • 189 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Ibiza… His face seems to annoy people as well. Ive heard “smug looking” and “melancholy scrotum face” being banded around quite a bit. I’d add number 5 as don’t show his face. Actually i quite like the idea of some kind of elusive phantom manager :)

  • 190 Benji84 // May 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    i just want to see benny unleash his fury on saturday and bull off his top and which which has a message fark of Sun I LOVE THE TOON!!! Now that would be epic!!!!

  • 191 JackButler // May 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    I love the fact that Pardew keeps coming out with how we have to play, what we have to do on the pitch them his side produces nothing of the sort.

    I’m sick and tired of listen to this man talk of what he’s going to change, what he’s going to do and then not actually changing a damn thing.

    I would love for him to explain exactly what his vision for this side is as when I look at it everything looks half-arsed with tactics that are straight out of his playing day’s and not in keeping with modern day football.

  • 192 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Laurent…Sounds good to me :)

    Rainrix…”melancholy scrotum face”…I feel a new moniker coming on :)

  • 193 lesh // May 3, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    rotherschild…. They should have brought Ginola in weeks ago. He knows the club and what it means to the fans and he’d impart that and inspire our French speakers.

    Ibiza @167, what a daft question. Pardew could get nine points from our last three games scoring 20 goals, conceding none then walk the length of the Tyne and still there’d be calls for his head.

    Ibiza. You’re late clocking in today, last nights business conference go on til late? Or were you managing the Shields election? Noticed a scouse git came second for Ukip – it’ll have been the Sunderland leaning voters that voted for him – they probably think they’ve got something in common with the scousers. Er, they have….. Bustards!!!

  • 194 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Lesh…I saw your post earlier…some people actually expect me to work sometimes. Trust me when I say I’m looking in to it, work? Phhh.

    I’m actually not just talking about this season, as 3 games will not change anything. It was more, if he is still here next season and we got in the new coaches to work with him etc etc, if he took on a new approach, has the hatred gone so far that it cannot be turned around?

    I suppose a simpler question would be, just how fickle are some of you? :)

  • 195 toonaids // May 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    i cant beleive all these pennies are dropping for pardew at the end of the season, i think im losing my marbles hearing some of the crap h e comes out with. of cors being an attack minded team will put the other team into defence and be more apprehensive about attacking.

    this is school boy stuff

    new manager most definitly

    lee clarke if we get relegated

    Benitez if we stay up break the bank fdor a manager, surely the manager should be payed more than the players as they take most of the flak.
    benitez would be agreat appointment, he pretty much is a manager, non of this that does everything else at the club from transfers and renegotiations, we need someone who will strictly come in and manage like what pardew does, has a say in signings but obviosly can put their managerial skills on show.
    Money will always be available at this club and with ashley he spends wisely so no over paid stars that we cant shift or make our money back.

    i really cant see us going down with this team, we need a win or even a draw and our destiny is in our own hands and police cheif wigan atheletic are down like, can see martinez pumping them up but we get a win this weekend and they will lose all spark. hopefully sunderlands honey moon period is over, i would tak emartinez as a manager. seems to understand the game.

  • 196 lesh // May 3, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Ibiza. I think you know our fans. They’d love him til a wheel came off then be back to type. We’re renowned for fickleness!

    As far as work’s concerned, you need a PA to do the day to day stuff allowing you to focus your myriad talents on strategic matters. And if you get a mo, analysing trends on the blog.

  • 197 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Lesh….”Strategic matters” – Does that mean chatting on here? Sounds good :)

  • 198 ichrisho // May 3, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Afternoon All… Hope that you all have had a nice week debating Pardew and what we are going to do to show we HATE him after we lose to a Kevin Nolan Hat-trick… Only joking – Toon all the way… I’d say 2-2… oh yeah… thats all we need…

  • 199 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    ibiza

    i think the way he blamed us fans for “booing a good pass” has probably riled a few people. I’ll let him be if he does turn everything around but i just dont see him doing it and i think he has had a fair crack at it.

    Catchy

    in fairness to pardew maybe he doesn’t know which is front and which is back…would explain so much.

  • 200 JackButler // May 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Lets just say that we somehow manage to pick up 5 point from our remaining games. Would any of you want Pardew to be given another season? Or would you still want him out the door as soon as the last game is finished?

  • 201 Rainrix // May 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Ibiza… Bit of a pain to chant though. Hopefully it’ll get to the stage where we colloquially know him as “the ballsack” Similar to how ashley is affectionately know as the fat man :)

  • 202 catchy in norway // May 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    TS

    whaich just makes the sacking of CH seem even more worse

    shocking

  • 203 El Sleeve // May 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    honestly, this guy is a complete and utter muppet, which all started with the lack of backbone he had in not continuing our very successful 4-3-3 from last season.

    honestly, this guy doesnt learn from his mistakes so what hope do we have now?

    new manager, new coaches, a technical director and general manager and then some football ppl on the board.

    getting rid of casino crook wouldnt do us any harm either.

    this is a very good team, much better than the last one that went down. this is all just shocking. i dont know how else to express it.

    if this guy starts tiote and jonas i’m going to newcastle to hunt him down and “have a stern word”

    how has no one invaded the technical area and slapped him yet? if i was a ST holder i wouldve either handed him a letter, or thumped him one

  • 204 ichrisho // May 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Get CH, Nolan, Carroll back… Nice.

  • 205 El Sleeve // May 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    TS, when did he say we booed a good pass? or was it just one of those many many many soundbytes lost between the many crap soundbytes?

  • 206 ichrisho // May 3, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Well I see its a hot date here… Catch ya in a while…

  • 207 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    El Sleeve, a guy went next to the media section in the Milburn and through down his scarf right in front of the bench and walked out after about 3 nil against Liverpool.

    I’m sure Pardew saw it out of the corner of his eye as he was standing up bellowing rubbish orders in the technical area. He certainly didn’t acknowledge it. John carver removed it after about 30 seconds. of landing!

  • 208 cyprus // May 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    So how will this thing work out?
    Here’s my take:

    We fight and get a point at West Ham, following a decent performance of one good half and one crap.
    We lose at QPR, one goal conceded each half.
    We go into last game, needing at least a point to be safe. We lead that game, eventually lose 1-2…

    Meanwhile… Wigan have collected 3 points from W Brom or Swansea, lost to Arsenal. On 35 points, they need a win vs. already safe A Villa to catch NUFC… They lead 2-1 in an all out game…. They concede in 84?, draw, and go down.

    You may make a copy of this or put some bets out and make money, it’s on me

  • 209 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    I heard Pardew say that about the bad pass.

    It was yesterday or the day before on BBC Radio Newcastle talking to Mick Lowes.

    He said something like, I spoke to Brendan Rodgers after the game and he says he knows what I’m up against when the crowd boo a bad pass after 15 mins.

    It was something like that. Not word for word, but with a similar meaning.

    I was angry when I heard that from him!

    Wonder if that was the pass where Jonas played a through ball to the left side… where he should be playing! Went to absolutely nobody.

  • 210 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    sorry… when the crowd boo a ‘good’ pass I think it was.

  • 211 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    41.39mins in if you live in UK

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017kvng

    Pardew said exactly this:

    “Brendan Rodgers said to me after the game, after 15 minutes, he thought we’d made a really good pass and got booed by the crowd. Y’ know, that’s where we are with the crowd, so it’s difficult to play under them conditions… so is it better to play away from home? I only hope our away fans are on top form for us.”

  • 212 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    What a load of cow dung Pardew!

  • 213 jonobbad // May 3, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    He hasn’t changed his ways at all. 2 and a half years he has had.
    People wanted him sacked before Xmas and got told to ‘wait until January when he gets some players in and then judge him’. Now those same people are calling us fickle because we don’t want it to go on for another year.
    You are not fans at all. Not nufc fans anyway.

  • 214 Marty-Toon // May 3, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Get the team to actually threaten the oppositions goal and they’ll get cheered on.
    Get the team to show some bite and passion and they’ll get cheered on.
    How on earth can they train with a ball 5 days a week and on the weekend it’s like a ball of lava that they can’t touch?
    1attempt on target throughout the whole game against the pool,at home!
    Can’t see us gettin anything tomorrow so Qpr are our only hope and Floppy chops will wanna do us over,not lookin good at all but would love to get a shock tomorrow ……please

  • 215 Jail for Ashley // May 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    laurent,
    I listened to that yesterday on total sport and was disgusted and now I’ve read it in text I am doubly disgusted,if we’re safe by the Arsenal game those words should be blasted over the tanoy in a rousing Churchillian type way,the smarmy Cockney banker.
    Jonjo bad
    I have open criticized the Alley regime for about five years now bar a five month lull last year where I kept my thoughts to my self,it doesn’t make any body less of a fan if they haven’t been screaming for him to sell up.

  • 216 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    JFA, I know, I read your post on it yesterday knowing that I’d heard him say it myself. Awful isn’t it.

    I was literally giving a couple of expletive verbals to the radio I was that annoyed with what he was trying to spin.

    It’s unacceptable.

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  • 218 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    I’ve literally paused, typed, paused, typed from the archive of the show to make sure I wrote the exact words. It was that bad to hear at the time I don’t want anyone to miss it who hadn’t heard it live.

    For people who haven’t heard it, click the link and listen to Pardew’s latest propaganda talk at the time I listed. Think you have to be UK to hear it.

  • 219 Jail for Ashley // May 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    laurent
    Now Im trebly disgusted,what a slimy no good mtf .
    Northeririshtoon,
    sorry I couldn’t post a link ,im not good with stuff like that

  • 220 mattnufc // May 3, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Pardew complaining about the crowd, someone call the psychiatrist.

  • 221 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    JFA – As am I, hearing it back a few more times on that archive.

  • 222 Laurent Robert 32 // May 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    It’s difficult to WATCH football generally under Pardew’s negative conditions. That is over months and months… Yet we (the crowd) get annoyed after a pass in one game (was probably a crap pass anyway) following a prior 3-0 home defeat to Sunderland and he says it’s difficult conditions to play in? The man is a cockney con-man.

    The gem of Pardew’s insult to the fans there is that two minutes later, we concede another then lose 6-0 at the end. Abysmal.

  • 223 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Funny how the language barrier never got mentioned last season with all our French speakers.

    last desperate excuse. easy enough to understand ” hoof zee ball in zee air

  • 224 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    matt

    yeah apparently it’s the fans fault now. the guy has lost it big time. Arrogant smarmy spiv.

  • 225 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    lesh

    unfair comment. fans loved kk, sbr and ch. we’ve just had a shower of rubbish managers in between

    while swansea had martinez, sousa, rodgers and laudrup, we’ve had allardyce, kinnear and pardew

  • 226 mot7 // May 3, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Give us something to cheer about then pardum
    We all understand the crowd frustration may get to the players but you put equal presure on them by playing nagative tactics and playing them out of position.
    We as fans kick and head every ball on match days so i guess we are just as frustrated as the player who are shackeld by your negative and outdate football philosophy

  • 227 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    jb

    he has to go regardless.

  • 228 northernirishtoon // May 3, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Jail

    To be honest after reading the quote I think I’ve seen enough

    He must think we are absolute plonkers. Don’t know what he thinks he can gain with statements like that. Anybody falling for that ‘propaganda’ as you so aptly put it, needs their heads examined

  • 229 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 3, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Stop booing the passes and keep singing my name PARDEW i tell ya

  • 230 Spotlight Kid // May 3, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    “I have a strong philosophy of how I think the game should be played…”

    And thereby he openly admits responsibility for the current problem…

  • 231 ronjohno // May 4, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    I NEVER TOOK TO THIS PERSON IN THE FIRST PLACE- EVEN LAST YEARS FIFTH PLACE DID NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

    NOW I SIMPLY DESPISE HIM AND HIS PERPETUAL EXCUSES (I THINK HE MUST HAVE A BOOK FULL OF THEM BUT HE MUST BE RUNNING OUT OF THEM NOW).
    NEVER TRUST ANYONE WHO HAS TO CONTINUALLY KEEP SAYING “TO BE HONEST” “TO BE TOTALLY HONEST- IF YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH THEN THAT IS TAKEN AS READ.DOESNT NEED TO BE EMPHASISED.




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