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Newcastle’s Problem – Some Players Have Choked

2:49 pm, Sunday, May 5th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 194 Comments

There’s something that must have happened between the evening of Thursday 11th April and Sunday 14th April, and we ‘d love to know what it was.

moussa sissoko what

Moussa Sissoko – it’s been difficult for our five new French players

On that Thursday, Newcastle were eliminated from the Europa League and were applauded off the field for their brave efforts in going out to the Portuguese side – who have since reached the final and will contest the final against Chelsea.

And on the previous Sunday, a last gasp winner from Papiss Cisse against Fulham,  meant we had picked up 3 precious points in the league, and Papiss went mad and ran into the crowd, and manager Alan Pardew was seen to hug Newcastle fans –  and we’ll not even mention the Newcastle fans going crazy.

But all has gone so wrong since then, with just one point and one goal in our last four league games since the Benfica game.

Not only that, but we have conceded 10 goals and scored only one, so our goal difference has plummeted by nine goals, and is now no better than that of Aston Villa and Wigan – and that had always been somthing we had over the lower teams in the league – but no more.

It’s almost like we are doing everything needed to be relegated – which would be simply a cataclysmic disaster for Newcastle United Football club.

And to add insult to injury we had our biggest defeat against Sunderland since 1979 – and our biggest defeat at home since 1925 as part of those four games. :(

And while there were some excuses about us having some of our best players out injured this season – we had five French players – including three French Internationals – brought in during the January transfer window to help prevent relegation and steady the Newcastle ship.

But with just two games to go, we are now in more relegation trouble than we’ve been in all season (that’s bad timing to say the least), and if Wigan beat Swansea City on Tuesday night – even the perennial relegation fighters will go above us in the league table.

And there’s not much time to save ourselves – with just two games to go.

It must be hard on the five Frenchmen coming in – we freely admit that – and they are trying their best to acclimatize to life in England and playing in the Premier League all at once – and even good experienced players like Kevin Nolan had trouble when he first joined Newcastle just over four years ago.

But the teams we have put out in the last four games have been very decent – and yet in two of those games we just collapsed – and the problem is not with the players’ ability or anything like that – they are good players – it’s got to be in their heads.

Some of our players have simply choked when the going got tough – and like four years when the going got tough – some of our players have given up.

We even hope some Newcastle players will read this and get annoyed about the premise they have choked, although there’s  good  evidence of that.

We’d have one thing to say to them – prove it’s not true in the next two games and save us from relegation.

That’s all that really matters now, and the Newcastle supporters are still completely  100% behind you.

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194 responses so far ↓

  • 1 DS_NUFC // May 5, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    KRUL
    DEBUCHY MBIWA COLOCCINI SANTON
    TIOTE SISSOKO
    BEN ARFA CABAYE MARVAUX
    CISSE

    How on earth is this side battling to avoid relegation with the right manager in charge we can challenge for the top 6 no problem

  • 2 DS_NUFC // May 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    with tiote and sissoko sitting back it gives the players infront of him to be more creative and attack but we will never get this under pardew

  • 3 DS_NUFC // May 5, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    are anyone confident that pardew will be replaced at the end of the season?

  • 4 Laurent Robert 32 // May 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    I’d like to think he’d be upgraded after the last game of season, but who knows.

  • 5 Geordiedownunder // May 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    If someone can look back in the records… I have a feeling the change in our fortune started straight after Pardew was given that 8 year contract….. since then the slow spiral down.

  • 6 DS_NUFC // May 5, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    if he dont i can see all the players losing confidence in him. pardew will take us backwards with his playing style.we need a manager with a winning mentality that likes to play the ball on the ground

  • 7 toon kk // May 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Alot of our team are over rated we lack pace, power & skill in to many areas. I know alot is down to Pardew but the table doesn’t lie. I watch other games on tv and they all put more effort in. Also I can’t see another top manager coming in Ashley wouldn’t meet his demands.

  • 8 fray bentos // May 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    @catchy

    I am not the reason we are in this situation, how could i possibly be

    Ive always liked to have a balanced view while looking at our club and football in general, understanding the view that i don’t know everything that goes on at the club and understanding the fact that every manager and coach knows a hell of alot more about the game than i do

    Ive never though Pardew was some sort of genius manager but he has his moments and i was willing to give him time to sort issues as im not a fan of the conveyer belt system of managers and idealy we need stability, the all the most succesfull reigns at club come through stability in manager, but as the season went on its became more apparant that his negativity can get very much in the way sometimes. he can be good manager at times, the 2 games againt Benfica proved this and i think he has alot working against him, the board, too many foreign players, too many new faces, injuries, possible bad coaching stsyem/team instilled at the club for year, but obviously alot of the blame has to be held accountable to him, i jsut don’t think he deserves the pettu name calling and contsant bashing, where not in a good situation but he will be trying to sort it out, maybe he just doesn;t have the right tools, its not his fault, blame the board instead

    I would love to have Laudrup or someone like that as our manager but i can’t see it happening, Pardew will have to do

    Get behing the team and support rather than the continuously bashing the manager

  • 9 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Can`t we just choke Pardew that would solve a lot of problems

  • 10 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    catchy,
    blaming individual posters for our demise is as ridiculous as your spelling of the word carnt .
    Just picked the Sunday mail up who claim Schalke are after Rafa and that word coming out of Newcastle is that the owners will stick with Pards regardless of our status.

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Geordie downunder ,
    The spiral downwards started when the transfer window closed and our superstars with CL ambitions realised they had been sold a dummy.

  • 12 chuck // May 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    ED.
    Looks like you are reaching here.
    You become a psychologist lately, it’s now in their heads, sounds like a Pardew sound-bite.
    We, that’s apparently everyone but yourself, have figured out the problem and it turns out to be Pardew.
    Not to say Ashley does’nt bear some responsibility.
    We will know following the seasons end, where I think Pardew has to be fired and replaced

  • 13 Douglas // May 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    What I have not been able to fathom is Pardews philosophy to football. Keegan = attack. Rogers = short passing. Pardew = ?????????. I think he sets his teams up based on defending against the opposition as priority and then see if we can nick a goal. Well, reach for the sky and you may reach the ceiling, reach for the ceiling (Pardew) and you’ll get relegated. Sooo as a fan of stability I still think Pardew will have to go. Mind you, what advisory role (culpability) does the rest of the coaching staff have?

  • 14 Laurent Robert 32 // May 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Free your mind from the dreadful thoughts for a second and revitalize a bit watching how football should be played at the highest level, with positivity and attacking flair.

    Zinedine Zidane:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7mXGMcpA0g&feature=endscreen&NR=1

    What a joy to watch.

  • 15 carl // May 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    fray bentos
    You talk a lot of sense. At the game yesterday you could see Coloccini organising the defence something we’ve missed. Given recent performances it was good to see a much improved showing.
    A game not to lose first and foremost. By far the better side first half we lost momentum with Cabaye and Hatem struggling in the second half. Behind the goal we all thought that Cisse had scored.
    Ian Toon
    Did you get Danny Simpson’s shirt it looked like you? I am at the QPR game will look out for you!

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Carl,
    Did Ian Toon introduce you to Pushy on your visit to the capital.

  • 17 carl // May 5, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Jail
    I live in London. Given that I did not meet Ian! Do you have to work at being thick or does it just come naturally. Nothing personal .

  • 18 chuck // May 5, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    FRAY BENTOS

    How is it you are the only one who doesn’t get it ?
    That old, “get behind the side and the manager” is ridicules.
    We have talent in the side, but no one to direct them.
    There were differences between Ba and Pardew over tactics, not to mention Collo. and others.
    Pardew has admitted to a lack of communication, due to language differences.
    Plus all you have to do is look his record, he has failed and been fired just about everywhere he’s been.
    But then what does Llambias know about football, the guy who recommended him ?
    Less than nothing if you are to believe KK.
    And what does the owner, who in fact runs everything know about the game?
    There’s blame to go around.
    The thing is, Pardew costs half a million a year, while most managers earn around three million on up, while Llambias is the lowest paid GM in the league.
    Plus both are happy to just be employed, who else would hire them..
    That and they will “yes sir” you to death.

  • 19 IITianToon // May 5, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Sorry for this guys but just thinking very very negatively, but if we do drop our Championship team:
    Elliot
    Tavernier-Saylor–Willo–Ferguson
    Perch–Inman–Gosling
    Campbell–Shola–Gouffran

  • 20 IITianToon // May 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    And would be good to have Girard managing us; possibly.

  • 21 Assam Toon // May 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Newcastle will be a perfect platform for Rafa to show he is up at that level. Its not about us choosing him but will he choose us though. In fact Girard on the other hand might take time to soak in the English game and even lose a few opening matches in the process, next season. Pardew’s position is like Mark Hughes when he managed city. An average guy in charge of a far more talented side than he could ever dream of managing…Mancini came in and was far better in handling characters like balotelli or tevez, in the long run. And pardew couldnt handle ba’s stubbornness. And now he is wasting Anita and Marveaux. He plays gosling,perch out of embarrassment for his old arsenal xenophobic comment. Jonas is fit only if u r defending two goals in last ten minutes..for his pointless time killing runs and attracting fouls.
    Everyone is saying go swans and potters…but I will breathe easy once the baggies give Norwich a hiding. They wont lose again surely, and that will be enough for us.

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    So Carl,
    Ian Toon is an acquaintance of yours whose wife you keep in touch with yet you didn’t meet for a pint on his visit to the capital.

  • 23 carl // May 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Jail
    There were 2,000 fans there and many more were in the West Ham end. Good atmosphere and support for team and Pards. Simpson played well defensively and threw his shirt into the crowd at the end. Cabaye did the same and publicly later thanked us for travelling.

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Assam ,
    Managers like Rafa Benitez want to add CL medals to their already bulging trophy cabinets not prove the are adept at getting mid table teams into the top six.

  • 25 carl // May 5, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Jail
    I T is not married. Your boring mate! You need to keep working on your theories!

  • 26 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Carl,sorry my mistake I forgot Ian is gay and it’s Pushy whose married but doesn’t like being called gay.

  • 27 fray bentos // May 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    @chuck

    jeez, don’t think you read any of my post but the last line it seems

  • 28 Marty-Toon // May 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    I can imagine its tough on the French lads
    Especially when the likes of
    Debuchy,Cabaye,Mbiwa,Sissoko are used to being top of their league or there abouts
    We’ve had a lot of injuries at crucial times.
    Players have been put in wrong positions on the pitch.
    Quality like Anita left on the bench instead of Tiote,Gosling who haven’t a good pass between them all season.
    Pardew will be gone even if we stay up,actually he might only stay if we go down

  • 29 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 5, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    If we can beat QPR I think we will stay up. Hoping for Swansea to get atleast a draw on Tuesday

  • 30 do the hatem shake // May 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    i think anita is absoultly quality but my opinion doesnt matter because its pardews and he has went full retard on us

  • 31 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Wish We had a player like Howard Webb

  • 32 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Its pretty sad that everyone is talking about if we can beat QPR we can stay up.We should never be in this situation if Ashley had woken up and seen Pardew is a total fcukwit and sacked him on his record losing streak

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    daztoon ,
    Ashley was never going to sack Pards as he is making a statement that he is doing things his way what ever the disastrous consequences are.

  • 34 naptoon // May 5, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    where does everyone have us finishing on bbc predictor i had us finishing 12th on 42 points norwich down on 39 by a 1 worse goal diff to wigan. arse pip spuds to fourth by +1 goal diff. cheered me up we are lucky so many teams around us have to take points off each other.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    5.2 The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. 
    This is still happen and will continue to happen,Mike Ashley and his cronies have absolutely no interest in the good of NUfC.

  • 36 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    @Jail for Ashley
    Dont we know it and years down the line he is still making the same mistakes.He should have made it a 25 year plan

  • 37 toonluvva // May 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    There is a worrying report in todays Mail on Sunday that even if we get relegated then Ashley will not sack either Llambias and Pardew.

    I hope it’s just PR spin from SJP and that come 20th May the axe will fall on the “indynamic duo”.

  • 38 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Not a hope in hell that lambias will go

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Hopefully Mike Ashley will sell up and somebody can sack the pair of them for him.

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Who in their right mind would actually weaken an already threadbare squad before a club embarks on an EL campaign,it really does seem like he wanted to fail.

  • 41 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Tats the only way dastardly is going anywhere

  • 42 carl // May 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    naptoon
    13 th Southampton 41 points
    14th Villa. 41
    15th. Newcastle. 41
    16th. Sunderland. 39
    17 th. Norwich. 39
    18th. Wigan. 37
    19 th. Reading. 28
    20th. QPR. 25

  • 43 Tsunki // May 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Mike and Del have stuck to their budget-crimping operating style of SD. It is noble of them to try but I think what is obvious is that the bargain hunting for players and cheap staff coupled with minimal investment under the guise of ‘sustainability’ has its limits in the peculiar sports/entertainment business. There is a need for high speculative purchasing and operating costs in areas such as the training and academy setups and quality depth of squad which the TV cash injection should be ploughed into. Right now Mike is like a small hardware shop owner in a crap street painting his store front and ekeing out a living, when he should be competing on the B&Q level. Step up the investment Mr Billionaire!

    Meanwhile I dread the thought of us turning out on a wild wednesday night in november in preston in our wonga shirts. Its going to happen isn’t it?

  • 44 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    @naptoon
    Its a waste of time it doesn`t have the Pardew`s tactics to predict anything realistic

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Pardew will not know what’s hit him if he takes us down,the word hate will take on a whole new meaning,have any other owner been dart enough to let him hang around for a relegation or is it just our business genius that has seen it through.

  • 46 dcdick // May 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    “There’s something that must have happened between the evening of Thursday 11th April and Sunday 14th April, and we ‘d love to know what it was.”

    COMPLACENCY happened !…………. & they are still saying they are too good to go down even now !!!!

  • 47 hoppernufc // May 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    I think well stay up and so will Wigan and Norwich will go down but we have to beat qpr there’s no two ways about it, I agree with most people on this blog wanting pardew out as I think he’s took us as far as he can however I don’t totally blame him, I mean a lot of our players have been shocking this season and personally I think most of our players are way overrated I honestly would be bothered if any of them left in the summer for the right price.

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    hopper,
    If true that the players contracts are littered with performance related bonuses can you imagine their a little bit miffed with the ambition shown last summer.

  • 49 Tsunki // May 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Yes I agree that Pardew aside (hopefully) pro players of their supposed calibre should be able to keep possession, play simple passes and know their positions. At times they have looked schoolboy. I don’t agree that tactics and formation tell the whole story. Plus I strongly believe we are the most unfit team in the league.

    Most disappointing player this season is tied between HBA and Cabs for me. I would not cry if they went. There I said it.

  • 50 carl // May 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    NUFC’s 7 wrongly disallowed goal’s
    1. Cisse. v Man Utd – Oct 12
    2. Ba v. West Ham- Nov 12
    3 Cisse. v Maritimo – Nov 12
    4. Cisse v. Metalist. – Feb 13
    5. Cisse v Benfica. – Apr 13
    6 Cisse. v Sunderland – Apr 13
    7. Cisse v. West Ham – May 13

  • 51 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    What happened was the players finally lost patience with turnips stupid tactics by going so defensive in the first half against Benfica when they knew as well as all of us that Benfica were there for the taking if we had gone offensive from the start
    It’s not acceptable but it is understandable the players belived they could get to the final ,winning games is a habit unfortunately so is losing .
    Don’t worry thou whatever happens Pardew is gone at the end of the season
    Lee Clark if we are relegated Rafa if we stay up
    It will be Rafa for me just

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    If there were six of us working and the gaffa said get 60 lights up and I’ll sort you out and then provided one pair of step ladders I think he’d get told to shove his lights up his ar$e.

  • 53 Tsunki // May 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    Here’s a thought – if SD-style bonus topups on basic salaries are the rule, what happens when a bonus target like, say, CL spot, Cup or higher than 10th place is no longer attainable? Knowing you will get the same wage win or lose can’t be great motivation. I only hope a hefty ‘not getting relegated’ bonus is on offer right now.

  • 54 Tsunki // May 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Carl – you forgot to add the 4 lost points there :(

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    yorkymag,
    You’re just setting yourself up for a fall fella,Pards isn’t going anywhere until at least Christmas.

  • 56 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    But why doesn’t matter if goals were disallowed in most cases we should have been out of sight in those games and last year we had more than our share of luck
    As Gary player said the more I practice the luckier I get

  • 57 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Jail
    It’s you setting yourself up for a fall
    Lol

  • 58 hoppernufc // May 5, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Cabaye has to be the most overrated cm in the premier league no doubt on his day he can score a great freekick or pick a great pass but how often is he on his day? For me he does more wrongs than rights his corners are appaulling every time, he’s way too inconsistent to play for one of the big clubs in europe

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // May 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Tsunki
    Sadly i completley agree
    Cabs has shown no desire this season
    HBA has barely featured again, and when he has he’s been distinctly average

  • 60 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    naptoon
    Fulham 41
    Sunderland 41
    Stoke 41
    Newcastle 41
    Norwich. 41
    Wigan 39
    Reading. 28
    QPR. 25

  • 61 Sawbuck // May 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Non of them have any skin in the game. Even mash can easily afford to see his investment slide..

  • 62 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    It’s to god dam depressing to watch us get relegated again. If we do ive had it. I’m 19 have supported newcastle for as long as I can remember but if we go down again that’s it the next day im going out and buying myself either a dormunt or marsille top and supporting them untill MA and pardrew all of them are away.

  • 63 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Ian Toon ,
    Did you get the Danny Simpson shirt or was it Pushy .

  • 64 toonarmydownsouth // May 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Does it really matter what an accumulator says?
    Wigan and QPR are pulling out suprise results, so are we but for the wrong reasons :(

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    tads ,
    If Wigan beat Swansea and the mackems get a point or more against stoke,then I think the physcological effect it will have on us dropping into the bottom three will be to great.

  • 66 nico // May 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Kevymartins
    Your far to old to change teams.
    I do wish sometimes that I never supported any footy team

  • 67 WWYCD // May 5, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Hoping for other teams to have bad days…what a complete bag of %¥>* this season has been

  • 68 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    @nico I just don’t want to be wasting my time with this bulls*it club anymore…Noooo ambition what so ever…The only thing the club is there for is to fill up MA’s bank account….Just imagine if that fat fcuk sold us to the city owners that time.

  • 69 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    If god forbid we do go down and every player that another club wants is moved on will it prove at last that Ashley didn’t keep Collo Barton etc for his love of the club and that he kept paying them because nobody else would match their wages.

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    WW…,
    Im going on my holidays in two weeks time the sun has finally started to shine yet I am thoroughly depressed.

  • 71 toonarmydownsouth // May 5, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    JFA
    Agree mate its a horrible feeling knowing that we could be in the bottom 3 by tuesday night
    West ham was the perfect oppurtinity for a reaction and we showed no desire apart from the back 4, it was shameful the game was there for the taking
    We all wanted a reaction, i hate to say it but we actually saw one from pardew but thats where it stopped, he changed the formation, he was vocal on the touch line and was screaming at the lads to push up, but no one on the pitch took the initiative, cabs played some good balls but lacked any form of work rate he lost the ball iver and over and made no attempt to get back, benny was average at best and greedy, cisse looked unintrested after his ‘goal’ which shouldnt of been in doubt because he should of hammered it in

  • 72 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Jail
    And if Wigan don’t beat Swansea and the Mackems don’t get a point we won’t be in the bottom 3

    To many if buts and maybes for me
    Simple beat QPR we are safe

  • 73 WWYCD // May 5, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    JfA
    Anywhere nice? Haha. In two weeks time we will know one way or another what the next year holds for NUFC least the depression will ease a little with that knowledge

  • 74 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    @Yorky wigan know if they win this there in with a real chance so yea I think they will win it.

    Wigan has shown there determination to win.

  • 75 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    yorkymag,
    I hope you are right pal,but beating QPR isn’t just a case of turning up.

  • 76 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    We have far better quality than wigan yet there looking unstoppable and were looking like a push over.

    We have seen them do it season after season there best players coming and going mosses rodellga etc yet there still here..It’s because they have a decent manager.

  • 77 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    I had a dream
    Wigan lose and mcmannaman gets sent off and misses the cup final

  • 78 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    WW…
    Off to Turkey for a week,never been before so looking forward to it blagged our lass to going on the 20th so I can get the game on Sunday.

  • 79 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    @1 Why Pardew just can play that formation.

    Stop being stubborn.

    With SISSOKO at the back he will bring the ball forward when space open up as and when then Cabaye will slot into the back during play to cover for him.

  • 80 WWYCD // May 5, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    kevy
    Wigan look unstoppable? Give over man.

  • 81 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Just as he did in the Chelsea game,the one time he has played in his correct position

  • 82 WWYCD // May 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    JfA
    Sounds decent mate hopefully we will be safe before that last game and we can all sit back and enjoy the game

  • 83 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    When Ashley insisted at the start of the season that Pards take us backwards a notch or two,I bet he didn’t reckon on him doing it so spectaculary well.

  • 84 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    mcmannaman should not even be playing at all..

    Now Wigan will beat Swansea.
    With Swam current low form. Players are just not motivated anymore after winning or too tired with their small squad.

  • 85 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Enjoy the game
    and vent our spleen at turnip big style

  • 86 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    What did Pardew said to Ashley to get the job? Where other interviewers didnt?

    I can …?

  • 87 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    @WWYCD If you hadn’t noticed they just beat west brom out of form played a crap game but still picked up the 3 points. That says something. And again on martinez he won that game with his subs mcarthur scored with his first touch on the pitch.

  • 88 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    WW…,
    How can we be safe by then,Wigan need to lose against Swans and Arsenal and we beat QPR ?

  • 89 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    yorkymag,
    if we are safe by then,I will be doing some serious spleen venting.

  • 90 toonarmydownsouth // May 5, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    The most worrying thing about the bottom 10 is the fact that anyone could go down on points, but if it goes to goal difference we are well and truly in the brown stuff

  • 91 beefman13 // May 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Tsunki, I agree with your comments to an extent 5.53pm, the players we are buying are not just cheapies they are lads out of contract or close to it who would cost a hell of a lot more at the start or mid contract.

    Sissoko, mbiwa, debuchy all bought very close to contract complesion, would have cost a hell of a lot more otherwise, same as gouffran, and young Haidara.

    this is why MA is a multi billionaire two odd anyway, wise investment, thing is they now all have to pull together in the right direction. they started brilliantly and have tapered off some what but there is nothing to say they cant come good again, this premiership is 100 miles an hour and quite a shock to the system, it shows the effort gouffy put in with cramp after 70 mins, that’s normally a cup final scenario.

    I will say MA signed Alan Pardew and that may turn out to cost the fella a lot of Wonga, he may have to swallow some pride concerning Pardew as this bloke just is not up to scratch whatsoever, virtually every player is an international for a top nation they are not donkeys we are buying, the manager is not utilising them properly, and stinting their potential, its enough to make our loyal supporters cry, he has had me close to it in sheer frustration.

  • 92 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    I duno about you lot but wigan is a grey area this time of the season. I’m putting my hopes into norwich getting hammerd by west brom and city

  • 93 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Oh me too
    And my guess is 52298 others will be joining us

  • 94 south coast toon // May 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    how on earth can anyone think we will finish above wigan they are playin for there lives and not giving up, we are playin because thats what we arec paid to do, its out of our hands,arsenal will beat us, and we will be lucky to get a draw at qpr even the best pesamist amongst us cant really see us getting a second away win of the season, we are going down the trap door so we best get used to it, is it pardews fault probably is it the players fault probably, r we all going to surport them next year in the second teir definaltly, if we all start drinking carlsberg we would probably have the best team in the wourld, we,re doomed i tell yer

  • 95 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    south coast toon ,
    please don’t forget to mention Ashley when playing the blame game.

  • 96 yorkymag // May 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    South coast
    With due respect that’s a point of view
    However if you study the remain fixtures carefully it is far less straight forward
    So many in trouble playing each other complicates things
    Agreed we should not be here but it is very likley 2 draws would be enough
    My cup is still half full rather than half empty

  • 97 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Pardew is Not a Tactician.
    Football is all about tactics

    He is not open to chance.
    Insistence on his perspective.

    When French manager laugh at Sissoko for playing at his current position. Pardew was ignorance.

    Don’t even bother to stick him back to his original position. Try several other position in state to un-rest the player more.

    (Rio Ferdinand was a Striker before but he is more useful at the back so manager point that out and he made the switch)

    Sissoko might love his current position but is not the right time adopt a new position and start afresh. Pardew got to slot him back to where he used to. (Thats where Carr took notice of him. And not in this current position)

    A good manager is very important.
    You can have the best ingredient source from the whole world but you need a good chief to put it together.

  • 98 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Now I say this would be a 60-40% chance but if swansea beat wigan and we draw with qpr is over. There is soo many possible outcomes what a crazy season

  • 99 bzak12 // May 5, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Jail- for toon to be safe we for last game we Must beat QPR Wigan lose at Arsenal and Chelsea beat Villa. The dodgy bit is us beating QPR.

  • 100 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // May 5, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfyty0_9Iyo

    when will i ever see this again with nufc

    :(

  • 101 spitfire_ // May 5, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    davis_toons @86

    I can swallow it all…. Probably Jonas said the same to Pardew.

  • 102 King Panth // May 5, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    For me it all boils down to the fixtures next weekend. We need to better Norwich’s result against West Brom when we play QPR. If they draw and we win or they lose and we draw i think we will stop up because they wont get a result away to Man City the following week (neither will we v Arsenal im sad to say). I just hope the Baggies do us a favour next week after yesterdays dissapointment. Im worried Sunderland will get a result v Stoke tomorrow, nailed on goalless draw for me, which will take Sunderland above us, if so, i will be bricking it on Tuesday night, for the Wigan v Swansea game, come on the sheep sh@ggers!

  • 103 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    It’s what we do that matters. We are where we are. Steve Wraith and Alan Shearer saw it as a good point and a marked .improvement from recent performances . There is far too much negativity on here which is not shared by the toon fans I have chatted with over the weekend. All of which is irrelevant because its what we do on the pitch that matters. A win against QPR will see us playing PL football next season. Ashley’s people are already briefing the National press that come what may Pardew will be our manager next season. I was told this last night by a long standing northern journalist and read confirmation in his Sunday column. Get used to it and support the team. We’re not playing playing Championship football next season.
    The teams fighting spirit will be on show for all to see and we will survive. In my humble opinion we have enough to stay up and then we can start planning for next season.

  • 104 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    bzak ,
    If we don’t beat relegated QPR when it is such a must win fixture then in all honesty we don’t deserve to stay up,my biggest concern now is do certain players want away so badly that they don’t give a fusk anymore.

  • 105 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Ian Toon ,
    you’re mentioning Steve Wraith and Alan Shearer in the same breath..but I think you are right on Pardew unfortunately he is here to stay he has been briefed with a mission and that is to lie to the fans and keep us safe,Ashley seems more happy with his ability to lie to the fans than keep us safe,but what say have we got were only fans after all.

  • 106 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    @Ian Toon
    We arn`t doing it on the pitch and i don`t want to accept the shit that is being played week in week out.Why should we just because Ashley says so.You canif yer want yer boring git

  • 107 bzak12 // May 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    My worry is that Ashley has told Percy he is toast at the end of the season and Percy has stuck his payoff wedge on us going down!

  • 108 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Yorky, with all due respect, thats a load or arse. How do you reckon that two points will be enough?

  • 109 Sawbuck // May 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    bzak

    that’s not a bad point. All the main figures at NUFC are known gamblers.

  • 110 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Ashley has accepted that there is a collective responsibility for our situation and that It is too simplistic just to blame the manager. Ashley learnt a bitter and financially damaging lesson when not challenging player power during the Shearer period as manager. He has privately acknowledged to Pardew that it was a mistake not to invest last summer. Additionally that when he did in January it should have included hardened PL players and not a nucleus of French players who in all likelihood would take time to settle. Llambias has been
    advised to be far more compliant to Pardew’s thinking in the transfer market. Pardew has expressed a strong interest in Wigan’s, McCarthy.
    Irrespective of which division were in the summer will see massive changes to the squad. Believe what you want but that is my take on
    it. Doubtless the same doubting Thomases will prevail.

  • 111 Eddie // May 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    “Some players have choked”!? What disasterous thinking!
    Players are the raw material of a team; effectively, they are stupid lumps who do what they do based on the talents that God has given them and that their God given intelligece has guided them to cultivate.
    We have a huge squad. Much of it, admittedly, is either untested or of uncertain ability at this level; but the brutal fact remains that it is the manager’s job to chose how he disposes of his resources.

  • 112 King Panth // May 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    It would be great if we can get the 3 points vs QPR. i honestly think that will be enough. Then we can let Ashley and Delboy know exactly what we think of Pardew in the Arsenal game. Its a shame for Pardew after last season, but its a results game, and its also nice to see your team play some decent Football, not the defensive/ long ball Pardew seems to love. A decent Coach would be able to get this side playing well (providing we stay up, and their is not a fire sale). If the worst happens and we go down and Pardew stays the reaction on the opening home game of the season should be interesting.

  • 113 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    The past have gone with the wind…

  • 114 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Ian, I hope you are happy to be laughed at when your great fighting words are shown to be fanciful. If Ashley sticks with pardew he’s an idiot. Plain and simple. Pardew is a poor coach, and i doubt he has much popularity amongst the players, or support for his brand of “coaching” . If he wants to keep Pardew, he needs to completely change the type of playeres we buy, because Pardews “style” of football doesnt get the most from them. Contuinuity for the sake of continuity doesnt wash with me. I’ll be surprised if we beat QPR.

  • 115 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    As long as we stay up here, we have every chance to redo again to make it better.

    Or we will have to start it all over again at a lower level.

  • 116 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Incidentally if we doi beat QPR, why does that mean we are safe? It presupposes that Wigan will drop points doesnt it? Which is far from definite.

  • 117 davis_toons // May 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Every manager is different. What Pardew wants can be very different from what Carr have sourced.

    He did mention
    1. A Target man.
    2. A 10 goals per season CD.
    3. ? I would say a better coach or best a better manager that can coach better tactical football.

  • 118 King Panth // May 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    If a Team offered £20 Million for Cabaye, who would accept it?

  • 119 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Everyone is talking like we will just turn up and and beat QPR we won`t.We have won once away all season conceded 10 in four games and scored 1.I`m sure the Remy factor will come back to bite on the ass.We are where we are because we are really that bad

  • 120 Eddie // May 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    davis – Carr just looks for talent. Whether that player comes depends on financial decisions. I’m sure Carr can recommend people for every position – including Manager ;)

  • 121 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    WWYCD, Wigan are doing well at the moment. they have competed well in every game. they have belief, experience, and goals. I’d rather be in their boots than ours. If you saw Sunday Supplement today, the journos were clearly of the opinion that the Toon were goosed, without being asked it directly. It all changed in the last 10 mins of yesterdays games. I fully expect Wigan to beat Swansea but am holding out a hope that Sunderland may well be in trouble as Stoke may be difficult. Sadly I think that will end in a 1-1 draw.

  • 122 Eddie // May 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    King – yes please.

  • 123 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Panth, I’d take that money for Cabaye. Rememnber plenty of fans on this site know jack shit about football, and were valuing Tiote at 25mill last year.

  • 124 Sawbuck // May 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Wigan’ll get out of it, They can beat Swansea and Villa.

    Its down to Hoots. It’ll be delicious revenge for him to send us down.

  • 125 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    carl – If I can change my shift I am in the home end at QPR with my big bro. I ‘ll contact you at work this coming. No joy on Simpson’s shirt – word is that should we be relegated he would be offered another contract to stay.

  • 126 papscrunt // May 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    The huge factor is QPR have nothing to play for. They’ll be relaxed and can play with freedom. And that could cause us massive problems as they do have players who’ll enjoy that. While we will be tense as hell.

  • 127 King Panth // May 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Eddie, great shout for Carr to recommend a Manager. As long as its not his son!

  • 128 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Ian, much as I love u man, you’ve been talking plenty of pants about Pardew all season. It wouldnt surprise me if he keeps his job though. It could only happen at Newcastle.

  • 129 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Plus the fact it will be the last home game for QPR in the prem i`m sure they will want to give the supporters a win

  • 130 King Panth // May 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Munster Mag, I remember when Tiote was rated at £25Million and we would all have been pissed off had we sold him. It shows how poor he has become because we would be lucky to get a quarter of that price for him now.

  • 131 kevymartins // May 5, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Contact harry and tell him if he fields a reserve team there will be a job opening when the season ends then go and sign a foreign manager

  • 132 eaststandgeordie1982 // May 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Norwich have never been on anyones lips about going down until now and i hope that WBA turn up at the weekend and turn them over because i see that as our only hope now.

  • 133 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Munster- My old mucker. It would not take a lot of persuasion for you to sell the whole team at fire sale prices. Tiote did OK.
    Elliot. 7
    Simpson 6
    Collocini. 8
    Taylor 7
    Yanga7
    HBA 6
    Cabaye 6
    Tiote. 7
    Jonas 5
    Gouffy. 6
    Cisse. 5

  • 134 Sawbuck // May 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    How weird it is, Hoots got us off the rocks and he’ll have his hand on the rudder to put us back on them.

  • 135 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Munster – I love you like a bro- cut- you will have thought it was that Drama Queen Beattie!!
    Can I push my luck and say that Ibiza talks sense in my humble opinion. It’s far to easy to go with the masses rather than think things through for yourself. Be lucky.

  • 136 miggy // May 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    ive read alls this blog and not one person has even mentioned sunderland goin down its all about wigan and norwich the mackems might fail yet i think there little bubble burst at aston villa so back to the norm for them i think

  • 137 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // May 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Was going to get stuck in this evening but then I saw Ian talking to himself again.

    No thanks.

  • 138 Munster Mag // May 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Ian, dont insult my intelligence by saying I;m not thinking for myself. You’re only diminishing yourself by doing that. Tiote has had a poor season. He didnt look fit from day one and his temperment has been like a pub player. After a few pints. And I wouldnt countenance a fire sale – we have plenty of talent – but an excuse peddling manager with no real pedigree.

  • 139 Joe Blog // May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Ian Toon

    Are you in a band called Vian and The Vip Vap Vongs?

  • 140 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    I`m pretty sure Hoots would get no joy to see the Toon relegated

  • 141 bills-son // May 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Jail, where you off to in Turkey?

    I’ve been going for years and am back again on the 27th of this month in Dalyan. I was in Turkey on a gulet on my honeymoon when we got relegated last time. Put me off EVERYTHING for days :-)

  • 142 toon-boi arran // May 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Long time reader, random poster, just bought 2 tickets in the away end for the biggest game of the season and the first il have seen this year qpr away hoping we go all out and attack think Anita should bebe playing every week such a shame hes wasted, would also like sissoko dropped deeper and cabs further forward would provide so much more creativity!

  • 143 Le Belfast 007 // May 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    The mackems will win tomorrow night & then they’re home to Southampton at the weekend. It’s a toss up between us Norwich and Wigan. Probably be between us and Norwich in the end, though Southampton may get dragged back into it.

  • 144 bzak12 // May 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    If Ashley persists with this ‘Eat Sh/te and Like it philosophy’ and keeps Percy on, it will be an interesting interview with the fans that Percy has promised come the end of season.
    I think Percy will scamper down the tunnel at the end off the Arsenal match (beating the time he managed after the Pool match) never to be seen again.

  • 145 Joe Blog // May 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    I’m resigned to the fact Pardew is staying whatever the outcome. If that’s the case, I’m afraid that’ll be enough to repel me until this whole regime has moved on.

    I’m sorry, but I’m not a masochist and my time would be better spent on pursuits I enjoy and not one’c that are distressing. Call me a fair weather fan etc, but it’s just logic – collectively we’ve put up with crap for too long and at some point you have to say “I don’t derive any satisfaction from this, so I’m going to give it up.”, the continuation of Pardew’s tenure will be that moment, for me.

  • 146 Rotonda heights // May 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    toon-boi arran

    Just about everyone can see that but Pardew

  • 147 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    bills,
    Off to Gumbit just hope Im not waiting for the CCC fixtures this summer.

  • 148 Rotonda heights // May 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    joe blog

    you are not alone. 43 years supporting nufc but pardew has pushed me to the very edge.

  • 149 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Joe Blog,
    I’ve had a feeling for awhile now that up or down that Ashley will stick with him,he was chosen for a reason and given an eight year contract for an even more sinister reason.

  • 150 Le Belfast 007 // May 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    I would say if we went down & they stuck with Pardew, we would struggle to come back up first time again.

    Can’t see many of those frenchies sticking around if we go down either.

  • 151 Sawbuck // May 5, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Jail

    The 8 year was unreal. What is your theory?

  • 152 Rotonda heights // May 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Ian

    So you are seriously asking us to support a manager next season who will continue to play players out of position, play his favourites regardless of form, have an unfit squad, oversee more injures in training, put out a team not to lose, play long ball and regress the development of a very talented squad while recruiting the likes of Jay Spearing. Oh joy !!!

    I think you do NUFC fans a great dis-service. Some of us are more discerning than that and we are not all sheep sucking up this c..p indefinitely. A good manager is not someone who has all but relegated 3 different teams.

  • 153 yo-yo // May 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Ashley did make a quote after the losing run that he wouldn’t sack Pardew and some comment like “if they think that they don’t know me very well”.
    But he has to have a breaking point where he won’t continue to back him. We just don’t know when and where that will be as he is a very stubborn bloke who is reluctant to admit he’s wrong (same goes for Pardew)

  • 154 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    sawbuck,
    My theory is Pardew was starting to get a bit uncomfortable with the lies he’s being expected to tell so an eight year contract seals it.

  • 155 yo-yo // May 5, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Rotonda

    If we are going to support the Toon next season and Mash doesn’t see the light we have to hope Pardew does instead. Otherwise we’ll just have to get on with it and support the team. Wouldn’t be the first time I have disliked the manager and/or owner intensely and had no confidence in either.
    Sometimes you seem so angry it’s like yer going to blow a gasket. The stress can’t be doing you any good – and as we are pretty helpless to change things we just have to look for the positives and hope AP turns out more like Moyes.

  • 156 bills-son // May 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Jail, I’m sure you mean Gumbet which is just outside of Bodrum.

    Gumbet is a party town and has improved alot in the last few years. Bodrum is a great place with one end of the harbour catering for the millionaires, the middle part for the Turks and not so young tourists and the other end for the all night parting. Make sure you go and walk right round thd harbour – its huge and well worth the visit.

    I was in the party end last year when Man City won the Prem, fantadtic atmosphere.

  • 157 Laurent Robert 32 // May 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    I agree Rotonda – 152

  • 158 Rotonda heights // May 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    yo yo

    just don’t know if I can do this any more and you’re right it’s way too stressful.

  • 159 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    For all those reluctant to blame Mike Ashley for any of this mess ask yourselves was Pardew around the last time we became a laughing stock,when NUFC legend KK was treat in such away he took the matter to court,and then to save money a former LMA manager of the year with heart problems was brought in,there is so obviously something in the way Ashley does business that breeds despondency and mistrust.

  • 160 Laurent Robert 32 // May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    I’ll always support and encourage the side on match-day, but if we are being served up incompetence, then a lot of people will naturally be displeased in the times in between.

    There’s a lot of money paid by fans for season tickets and away games, to see entire second halves played without any urge to create chances. It’s just unacceptable, never mind with the players which we have at our disposal, it’s doubly unacceptable.

  • 161 scout // May 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Does anyone have any tickets for the qpr game they dont need?

  • 162 p // May 5, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Cheer up, we’ll win loads of games in the championship

  • 163 tooninspain // May 5, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Trash…..I hope your trip to Turkey is one way.

  • 164 yo-yo // May 5, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Rotonda

    Trouble is I’m not getting the sense that AP will be on his bike, though that is the logical next step given the level of failure this season.
    I think AP has been dealt a pretty poor hand but he’s also played it badly and re-dealing probably won’t help

  • 165 BandB // May 5, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    So Ian Toon managed to find a bunch of rosy-cheeked Newcastle supporters who just happened to sing the praises of Mr Pardew.
    Well, bless my soul!
    Who’d have predicted that?
    I’d have taken a wild stab in the dark that you’d come back with this tale. Which, incidentally, is precisely what you’ll be getting in you don’t start being a bit more truthful.

  • 166 stestickle // May 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Pardew needs to stop thinking how teams can hurt us and start thinking how we can play too are strengths and hurt the opposition

  • 167 p // May 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    @166 Pardew needs to stop thinking, it’s dangerous

  • 168 scout // May 5, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Im thinking the qpr game is nailed on both teams to score

  • 169 BandB // May 5, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Ian is right about one thing. Pardew has probably been told he won’t be sacked, and given the nod that he’ll get more say over the type of players we sign. There’s nothing more ridiculous and annoying to the “get ahead” Thames Valley sensibility than the sight of raggy-arsed moaning minnies up norf daring to affect such a thing as pride. That’s Ashley and Llambias are such heroes.

  • 170 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    toonisapain,
    Do I take that as you hope that I die there or just decide to live over there without returning to my home address.

  • 171 tooninspain // May 5, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Trash…..bit of a drama queen, aren’t you?

  • 172 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    toonisapain,
    A bit of a knob aren’t you ?

  • 173 yo-yo // May 5, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    BandB @165

    WTF ?

  • 174 yo-yo // May 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Why is it getting so confrontational on here tonight ?

  • 175 bills-son // May 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Jail, a bit?

    Very courteous of you I must say.

  • 176 tooninspain // May 5, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Trash….of course you’re an expert on knobs, working away from home with all those blokes. Which one are you taking to Turkey with you?

  • 177 BandB // May 5, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    yo-yo

    The Blackadder the Second, Episode Two, “Potato.”

    Early eighties. A lifetime ago.

  • 178 yo-yo // May 5, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    BandB

    Not a reference I remember. If it isn’t a cunning plan or over the top it’s all a mystery to me

  • 179 BandB // May 5, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    It’s about Sir Walter Raleigh. Did I ever lay claim to contemporary references? I can’t keep up with anything after 1995. Another couple of years and I’ll be back to giving my age as “something” and a half.

  • 180 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    BandB – It might come as a surprise but I am not in the habit of lying. Before I took up doing what I am doing I flirted with the idea of being a sports journalist and on work experience in that field. I still write a few articles from time to time and know a few people. I chatted to a number of people known to me and my family. They appeared as interested in what i thought of recent happenings at the club. It could be that your so used to being lied too that you do not realise when people are playing a straight bat. I did not present a personal view on likely developments just what I understood to be the likely outcome.
    The fact that I believe there is a collective responsibility for our situation puts me increasingly on the right side of the argument as far as Ashley is concerned. If anything I believe it could well strengthen Pardew’s hand for the reasons mentioned in my last post.

  • 181 Brutooon // May 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    1) playing a 4-5-1 formation which is NOT WORKING – but even it didnt work AP STILL USE !!!

    2) playing a two defensive midfield to protect the defence. Didnt work right? considering we are the worst concede team

    3) Long ball strategy to Cisse. Cisse is the not the hold kind of striker like Andy Carroll

    4) Keep playing Jonas, look at Sir Alex Ferguson – he never guarantees his player a starting eleven – not even RVP. Marveax assist more than Jonas and still put in the bench?

    5) Playing Sissoko at the wings? AP got no clue. If we buy Messi and Ronaldo, AP would play Messi at left back and Ronaldo at Centre Back

  • 182 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    scout@ 161- 1600 tickets fully sold for QPR game. You can still get tickets from QPR box office on 0844 4777 007 for home end. Just be careful you get a seat without a restricted view. They often try to offload those onto away fans-LOL.

  • 183 voodoo85 // May 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    PARDEW RECORD:

    Since joining Newcastle Utd on 9th December 2010
    Played – 96
    Won – 35
    Drew – 25
    Lost – 36
    Win % = 36.46%
    Loss % = 37.50%

    Before signing 8 year contract on 27th September 2012:
    Played – 65
    Won – 27
    Drew – 19
    Lost – 19
    Win % = 41.54%
    Loss % = 29.23%

    Since signing 8 year contract on 27th September 2012
    Played – 31
    Won – 8
    Drew – 6
    Lost – 17
    Win % = 25.81%
    Loss % = 54.85%

  • 184 voodoo85 // May 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Average those records out over a season and its much like this:

    38 (matches) x 0.2581 = 9.8 wins per season
    38 (matches) x 0.5485 = 20.8 losses per season

    We could call that 10 wins and 21 losses, meaning there would be 7 draws

    Thats a total of 37 points per season and relegation looming. Shocking record for a team with as much potential as ours

  • 185 Ian Toon // May 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    BandB- One final thing. It is my understanding that the players have also been told that Pardew is to remain as manager come what may.
    This was part of the bonding process undertaken last week. Assurances were being sought by some of the senior players- no names mentioned.. This maybe explains the jovial Pardew that some have mentioned. I did not speak to Pardew but apparently he feels he’s won the battle on transfer targets going forward. Just how this will work in practice remains to be seen.

  • 186 BandB // May 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Ian

    I have been saying for several days now that I thought things behind the scenes were running in Pardew’s direction. So I don’t disagree with your analysis of how things will pan out. What I find hard to understand is your seeming equanimity about the prospect of relegation.
    It seems to have worked out this way.
    There were a very large group of people at the start of the season who were cheerleaders for the idea that we had a financial plan that was the envy of the league and that failing to invest in the squad showed what a shrewd operator Mr Ashley was.
    By January, Mr Ashley had publicly recanted on that view, leaving their arguments in tatters. So the same group moved its campaign to implacable support for Alan Pardew, at just the time when his failing were becoming glaringly obvious, and his performance difficult to get excited about.
    If I lived in a state which I considered had been hijacked by a regime which did not have it’s best interests at heart, I would feel it was my duty remain loyal to my country, and not become an apologist for the regime.
    I feel much the same way about the situation at Newcastle.
    I also have a journalist friend or two, and its also true that I have to deal with duplicitous people on an almost daily basis.
    And finally.
    Logically, its a fallacy to claim that the fact you feel something entails that you are right. Though all this criticism has almost certainly strengthened Pardew’s hand, as you state.

  • 187 SupaToonKid // May 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Sunderland don’t have key man Sessegnon tomorrow as well as big Fletcher. They still do have some players who can cause problems like AJ & a super keeper in Mignolet but I can see Stoke winning as well as the Mackums winning. Fingers crossed the right red & whites get the result tomorrow. Come on you Potters.

    I can’t see Swansea beating Wigan but a draw is definitely possible.

  • 188 BandB // May 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Sorry for the literals…I can’t find my glasses.

  • 189 SupaToonKid // May 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Good stats there Voodoo

    To be honest all us fans can do is try get behind the team & pray we can find something of 2 good attacking displays in our last 2 matches as with Colo back our defence looks much stronger so goals are now needed to get this GD up as much as win us games.

  • 190 ONLINE GUY // May 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Just had a word with Arry floppychops..I pretended I was Ashleys Secretary..Offered Arry the Newcastle job next season
    he wants to stay in the prem ..he’s promised to put the youth team out against us so’s we win…

    Here’s Arrys Phone number if you want to talk to him .
    01234..5678910

    Note to Transfer (everpresent) Sage please dont report me to Ed ..Its A Joke !

    I know sometimes its hard to separate fact from fiction in some peoples mind’s .

    Wondering though ..If Ashley did get in touch with
    ol’ ‘Arry and offered him the job at the Toon ..would we Win at QPR ? Just a thought ..

    I would go down that path right now ..ask Arry if he’s interested , then tell him to Fcuk off after we beat them .

    I jest Ye all…and Hello to all the great posters I have been on me travels and have missed you all….even the tit heads of which there are many ..you know who you are ..saying that ..you might not realise ! ye Gads..sorry I’v been doing a bit of the bard’s work ..Drain’s ya ! not a mere Bagatelle I can say !

  • 191 ONLINE GUY // May 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Sorry that last post, I meant to put the word TIT in capitals.

  • 192 Newcastle Brown Alien // May 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    online, in our current form i would’t hold my breathe against the qpr youngsters

  • 193 ONLINE GUY // May 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    NUcky Brown,,I ya reet there Hinny.

    I can imagine Harry putting a few youngsters in anyways next week ..have you noticed there is a lot of negativity in Ed’s headlining ? lets get behind the lads when they need us most.. Arsenal might just be clear of Spurs before the last game of the season mind ..so we might play out a draw …I think if Norwich loose against WBA then Norwich down..Unless Man city give them an easy ride last game …

  • 194 stuart no9 // May 5, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    i believe , if your not happy with the way our owners are running the club, but are not prepared to do anything about it , then dont moan about the situation.
    You have a choice! either stay away and hit him in the pocket,- my idea of a boycott didnt go down to well at the time, however in hindsight , was one of my better ideas, or carry on regardless hand all your spare cash to ash, and enjoy whatever you are dished up !




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