Do Newcastle Players Have The Guts To Survive – We Don’t Know

Wigan are up against Swansea City tonight at the DW Stadium, and a win will take them out of the bottom three, and leave Newcastle in 3rd bottom place in the league with just two games to play – in what would be a  perilous situation.

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And last night Sunderland managed to do what was needed to go above Newcastle with a 1-1 draw against Stoke City, after being 1-0 down with ten men at the break – but they came back in the second half to get the equalizer and move above Newcastle – who are now 4th bottom.

Sunderland showed some fight last night when faced with adversity, and we don’t know if the current Newcastle side would do the same in similar circumstances – we hope they would – but we don’t know.

If Wigan win tonight it will be up to Newcastle to fight our way clear of relegation, and Alan Pardew was asked if it could be out of our hands:

“I’m not so sure about that.” “There is still a lot of football to play. I don’t think that will be the scenario, I really don’t.”

“But in terms of us? We can only take from each game what is on offer. We took a point at Upton Park. Perhaps we could have had three so we have to take what we got at West Ham and move on.”

“When you get a hammering like we got, and then get the reaction in the Press, it’s difficult to respond in the way we have,” “But we did with that performance.”

“Fair play to my players, because they deserve a lot of credit for it.” “It is not easy having a week like that, then being able to perform as strongly as that and as disciplined as we were.”

Newcastle gave one of their worst performance against Liverpool that I’ve ver seen from a Newcastle leven , and it was the 4th last game of the season,.

It was our worst defeat at home since 1925, so Pardew must know they would all be criticized and they deserved it, for letting the club and th City down – not to mention the fans – too many of our players gave up in that second half.

We expected them to come out fighting at West Ham and the lads did quite well – but we needed the 3 points on Saturday – and we need the 3 points on Sunday at QPR if the lads are gong to save themselves – but we’ve also won just one game on the road this season.

Of course we are hoping that Wigan will lose tonight against Swansea – but what if they win, and Newcastle sink to third bottom?

Will our players show the courage and guts to get us out of the mess we’ve put ourselves in?

In truth we don’t know – we hope so – but the performances at home against Sunderland and Liverpool have left a big doubt in our minds whether a lot of our lads have the fight in them for what lies ahead.

Which is why a lot of Newcastle fans are very worried right now. including us.

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26 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 7, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #1

    Does pardew realise 1 win and 1 loss is better than 2 draws?

  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #2

    I bet wigan won’t win tonite, 100%.

  • Transfer Sage

    May 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #3

    i’m more worried that all other teams around us really pushed for a win whilst pardew was happy to have us time waste to save a point.

    The point itself wasn’t a terrible result, the way we got it was though.

  • Transfer Sage

    May 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #4


    I can see them beating swansea, it was the only win i backed them to get in their last 4 matches.

    Swansea have little to play for and have been on holiday since the league cup final.

  • Santon03

    May 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #5

    “We can only take from each game what is on offer.” DUDE WTF!!! there are only 2 games left to survive not 10 or 20 FFS!! 180mins of football!!
    Just shut the f@ck up pardew!! we are already a laughing stock and you just making it worse and worse.
    He really doesn’t know that the press is trying to make him look stupid, does he?

  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #6

    Silence, Pardew you imbecile!

    You are making it sound like your defend at all costs policy is a good thing. Anthing can look good after a 6-0 drubbing you put on a silver plate for Liverpool. Trying to achieve 3 points is what is needed, not just holding on for one all season! Look at the teams around us attacking for 90 minutes and getting wins and improving goal differences.


  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #7


    Mate i guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #8

    Was just thinking,

    He always puts players like Anita, HBA (Last season) in games which are relatively tougher.

    He brought Anita on against LFC after we were 5 down.

  • ErnestHemingway

    May 7, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #10

    If you believe that there’s a bond
    Between our future and our past
    Try to hold on to what we have
    We build them strong, we built to last

    ‘Cause this is a mighty town
    Build upon a solid ground
    And everything they’ve tried so hard to kill
    We will rebuild

    I couldn’t have put it better myself. But this written by jimmy nail. And it sums up nicely what’s happening at our club.

    We’ve forgotten who we are.

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 7, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #11

    Reading between the lines,what he’s saying is after a week like we had anything other than a heavy defeat is acceptable ?

  • blew

    May 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #12

    This regime has gone from 1 disaster to another throughout their time. The rot really started when a true professional- Chris Mort- returned to his business.
    He has not been replaced.
    Sadly the future of the club is in the hands of Pardew, Llambias and the mismatched team.
    The players brought in, mostly by Carr, have not succeeded. The club suffers impaired judgement at all levels.

  • Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness

    May 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #13

    @llongwie true these teams who are 1-2 points above us, or in Wigans case 3 points below us, aren’t on as bad a run of form. But there’s nothing stopping any of them from losing their last 2 games either.
    basically all I’m saying is that there are gonna be a lot of sphincters clenching during these last games. And with qpr to play we aren’t the ones in the worst position. As long as we bloody show up.
    we have no excuses if we go down and we can’t merely say it’s luck if we stay up. We are also far fro
    Relegated regardless of what some would have you believe.
    like I say there are around 6-7 teams who could each go down somehow. 40 points is no guarantee of ssafety this season.

  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 7, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #14

    I genuinely believe if Wigan don’t win tonite its good bye Nurse for them

  • Transfer Sage

    May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #15


    We will have to then. I just think with swansea having little to play for and michu being out wigan have a good chance.

    Hope i’m wrong though and you are right

  • Spoof

    May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #16

    Have we got the fight, from what we have seen so far, we have got to assume that we don’t, with supposedly a better squad that what those around us have got, if we had the same fight as them then we wouldn’t be where we are.
    Gutless players who couldn’t care less seems to be our speciality, that type of player took us down 4 years ago, and they seem determined to do the same again

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #17

    Winning 0-1 v QPR .. twenty minutes to go … anyone got any confidence Pardew will get us a point?

  • sparky55

    May 7, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #18

    I’ve seen enough courage and passion not to be concerned about that…the problem is with pardew’s tactics and set up…he’s kicked all the belief out of the team and even if you’re 110% committed but the tactics are wrong then you come off the pitch knackered, frustrated with another little chunk of belief having been chipped away. The passion and belief the french contingent showed when they first came was evident…it’s not so evident now because the vision sold to them is nowt like the reality of playing under Pardew.

  • Transfer Sage

    May 7, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #19


    if wigan lose tonight and we get something on the weekend, ideally a win i think we will be fine.

    I can’t see wigan winning on the weekend and i can’t see norwich beating either west brom or city so hopefully a win will keep us up.

  • jimmysmith

    May 7, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #20

    Look at Marttnez, the Spanish Pardew, which makes him one step above what we have.

    Go get ‘im Mike!!!!! Go on son…….yoiiii…!!!!!

  • martoon

    May 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #21

    One thing against us is our goal difference – we could end up on the same number of points as Wigan or Norwich and go down. The killer was conceding 6 against Liverpool which just shows that even when you are getting beat you should fight to the very end. If we had only, say, got beat 3 – 0 this would have made a big difference.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #22

    i agree that any of about 7 could go down, but that wasn’t what I was picking you up about. I was merely saying that we have had a worse season then a lot of the other clubs when you look at the bigger picture.

    Anyway, you are right, we should be able to beat QPR, I posted earlier saying Arsenals season could well be over by the time they play us. If Arsenal beat Wigan, that means for them not to be secure in fourth Spurs must have beaten Chelsea and Stoke. If they have, then they again have to beat Sunderland which benefits us.

    Norwich play Man City at the Ethiad last game, even if they beat West Brom, and we beat QPR I prefer our chances of salvaging something last game over theirs.

    Wigan MUST win tonight, if they don’t I think they are gone. Also they play Villa final day who may not be safe by then.

    Basically, QPR is the crucial game for us. Win that and in my opinion we should be safe, as there are too many teams in and around needing results.

  • brian kilclines pony tail

    May 7, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #23

    people seem to think we will beat southampton, how will we beat anyone when we dont score goals?

  • Sav

    May 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #24

    Typical stats from the West Ham game. We equaled possession and out-passed the Hammers (proving we have the skilled players) . We also had more attempts than them. However, 9 of our 12 attempts were from outside the box, and in crosses and corners we also did far worse than the Londoners. This shows we are nervous of getting bodies forward, committing players to the attack and rushing our finishing when there are few viable forward options and end up hitting and hoping for the best. No wonder Cisse has only 8 league goals this season. Crosses and corners are another weakness. We aren’t getting enough and when we get any, they lack conviction.
    If we are to get 3 points from either QPR or Arsenal, Pardew has to remedy these failings or we are done for.
    I have to say the mackems showed plenty guts to claw back a point, but like us, they are clawing their way out of a sandpit and that was a 3-pointer wasted and their odds against survival have shortened.

  • martoon

    May 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #25

    Brian Kilcline – You are right we will not beat Southampton as we are not playing them 😉

  • toonluvva

    May 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #26

    Lets be positive (unlike Pardew). I expect a draw between Wigan & Swansea leaving the following for the bottom 5.

    Sun’Lun on 38 points
    Toon on 38
    Wigan on 36

    Sunday we win at QPR and Sun’Lun lose against Southampton who still have something to play for. The table is now.

    Toon on 41
    Sun’Lun 38
    Wigan 36 (to play midweek against Arsenal)

    Midweek Wigan lose so table above is unchanged. This means that we will be safe as the max points that Wigan can get is 39.

    Last day,

    We lose, Sun’Lun lose, Wigan win, final table
    Toon 41
    Wigan 39
    Sun’Lun 38
    QPR & Reading already down.

    If it pans out they way I have predicted, should we not sack Pardew as soon as we are safe, I don’t mind if we have no manager in time for the Arsenal match. God knows I don’t think we have had one for months now.

    To be really safe, Ashley needs to be bold and sack Llambias as it is obvious he is a large part of the problem.

    Keep the faith, we can avoid the drop but we MUST beat QPR. Then once safe we MUST sack Pardew and Llambias.


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