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Here’s One Fringe Player Who’s Proved His Worth This Season

9:41 am, Tuesday, May 7th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 35 Comments

There have been too many players this season who have come in and been found lacking in the famous black and white shirt of Newcastle – and that may still cost us our precious place in the Premier League this season.

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Rob Elliot – proved his mettle this season

But one player who has proved himself this season is Rob Elliot, who has played very well for Newcastle, when he’s come in a number of times in goal for the injured Tim Krul.

And Rob saved us a point at Upton Park on Saturday with a fantastic double save in the second half, from former captain Kevin Nolan, and maybe that’s the point that will save us this season.

Rob has proved he is worthy to be the backup to Tim Krul, and he had this to say in the Evening Chronicle today:

“You just have to have that self-belief.” “I’ve never been an arrogant person, but I have always had self-belief. You are going to get knocked down in whatever your walk of life.”

“You just have to make sure you react. Sometimes one bad thing happens and you can let it get on top of you.” “But everybody as a club has said we won’t let it affect us.”

“We’ve taken a lot of criticism on the chin and we’ve just accepted it. “The only way to answer it is to put performances in. That has been a massive plus for me as a person at the club to see that.”

“You get to this end of the season and if you are down there you can only concentrate on yourself.” “That’s the biggest thing to do.” “When you start worrying about other teams that’s when it goes wrong.” “

It is all about us – we have to do what we need to do.” “It is in our own hands rather than relying on others.” “It was a good step picking up a point against a good team like West Ham.

“That will kick us on for the next two games.” “We go into the game with confidence.” “They are similar to West Ham, so we know what to expect.”

“They may be relegated but they are playing for next season.” “We needed to show character.” “After Liverpool it was disappointing and you can’t really defend it.”

“There were some terrific performances from the back four and the midfield was magnificent on Saturday.”

Those are good words from the Newcastle goalkeeper, and we hope to see an even better performance from Newcastle at QPR on Sunday, and anything but a win in that game could leave us in a perilous position going into the last game of the season – at home to Arsenal.

A win will give us an excellent chance to survive and of course it will be another sell-out for the Arsenal game – but unlike the last two home games – our players cannot let us down a week on Sunday.

We hope they can play somewhere near their best in the last two games – that’s the least we need to see from the players.

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35 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jeraziah // May 7, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    He’s short without reach for low shots. But he’s OK, I would have him as third choice if we get another keeper in the summer with either more experience or another young promising starlet like Krul was.

  • 2 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Been nothing but impressed with elliott this season, he has been great standing in for krul.

    For a number 2 keeper you can’t really ask for much more.

  • 3 Spoof // May 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Its the Sissoko’s, Cabaye’s and Tiote’s who we need to do well in the last 2 games, these lads on top form win you games, but sadly all 3 are gutless and have just vanished over the last few weeks, we need men who will fight, we have gutless cowards, they should be ashamed

  • 4 ArtyH // May 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Agreed Elliot has proved his worth and is a valued keeper in more ways than one.
    Just think us relying on other teams to get beat is a recipe to disaster, and Pardew is O.K with this?

  • 5 catchy in norway // May 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    i think harper is still a much better keeper

    he dont inspire me at all

  • 6 Toon Tang // May 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    him and collo are in garth crooks team of the week. thats one to tell the grand kids rob mate

  • 7 Lilongwe Geordie // May 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    PPB, (Repost)
    i agree that any of about 7 could go down, but that wasn’t what I was picking you up about. I was merely saying that we have had a worse season then a lot of the other clubs when you look at the bigger picture.

    Anyway, you are right, we should be able to beat QPR, I posted earlier saying Arsenals season could well be over by the time they play us. If Arsenal beat Wigan, that means for them not to be secure in fourth Spurs must have beaten Chelsea and Stoke. If they have, then they again have to beat Sunderland which benefits us.

    Norwich play Man City at the Ethiad last game, even if they beat West Brom, and we beat QPR I prefer our chances of salvaging something last game over theirs.

    Wigan MUST win tonight, if they don’t I think they are gone. Also they play Villa final day who may not be safe by then.

    Basically, QPR is the crucial game for us. Win that and in my opinion we should be safe, as there are too many teams in and around needing results.

  • 8 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    spoof

    I think they are just fed up. If you ask good players to sit deep and not let them play the way they know they are capable of and they know is more effective then they will always struggle and not look up for it.

  • 9 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    catchy

    I thought the same until the last few months where elliott just looks much more agile and commanding than harper, harper is just not the keeper he was anymore.

  • 10 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // May 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    @lilomgwe ok fair enough mate. I cannot disagree wholeheartedly with you tbh. We are kinda on the same page really.
    we have a better chance than some teams around or above us. Hope Swansea show up tonight

  • 11 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    The west ham game was the final chance for pardew to redeem himself and at least wave good bye to us with some pride left.

    After the bust up in training i thought he might have taken on some of the comments and let the lads attack like we know how and basically how we need to play.

    He was however totally gutless and went defensive, even time wasting for a draw at the end, he is not just useless but a total embarrassment and lacks and sort of backbone.

  • 12 Hatem's better than Messi // May 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Good goalies prepared to sit on the bench all season … worth their weight in gold.

    Di Canio saying scum v Southampton like a Champions League final … we go into QPR game expecting to win … Pardew’s complacency will be our downfall.

  • 13 Puppet Pardew // May 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Whaaaaat! How dare you slander my good name! I’ll get Mike’s legal team onto this, you disrespectful northern oik!!

  • 14 elpaso_geordie // May 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    WHY is a lot of people so sure of getting points at QPR – we have won 1 game away ALL SEASON…….

    Have you watched us we are the worst team to watch in the entire division

  • 15 ArtyH // May 7, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    There is only one tactic to use against QPR and that is to pick the team and just tell them ” Go out and win the game, and if anyone is tyred or injured let me know and you will be replaced “. This way the team can play their own game and not be shackled by Pardew’s lack of nouse. Its past squeaky bum time now, its where’s the paper!

  • 16 Santon03 // May 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    TS

    Totally agree

    but pardew philosophy is if first you don’t succeed try and try again and if it’s not broken don’t fix it. That’s why we have the same thing every game, he doesn’t thing it’s broken and he wants to try and try, because after all he is the best manager in the league, only he knows best. It’s just bad luck according to him.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    lilongwe

    yeh a win at QPR should see us scrape over the line.

    I can’t see norwich getting another point but results are so hard to predict this time of year.

    Just with all other teams around us really going for wins and pardew seemingly happy to take a draw I am now for the first time this year really concerned.

  • 18 yo-yo // May 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    I recall that Elliott got a real slagging on here after he signed for not being up to it. Maybe it was just a proxy attack on the management.

    All the micro-analyisis of Pardew’s comments and minor inconsistencies if applied to any politician would lead to revolution.
    I really think there is a lot of over-reaction to his comments and we shouldn’t get too upset. I try to ignore what he says as meaningless and irrelevant to our survival.
    Football “game of two halves”"sick as a parrot” “over the moon” speak is NON-COMMUNICATION anyway. Empty rhetoric.

    Firstly, we don’t always know the context.
    Second, we don’t always know the tone.
    Third, we don’t know if he’s been quoted accurately.
    Fourthly, what he says for public consumption is not what he says in private.
    Fifthly, football managers tend to state the bleedin’ obvious anyway.
    Sixthly, as he has progressively lost the plot he has got more and more unintelligible.

  • 19 Santon03 // May 7, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    TS

    btw my comment #16 is for your comment #8

  • 20 Spoof // May 7, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    TS, I know what you are saying and yes that does happen, but we got hammered off Sunderland and Liverpool, some are blaming Pardew for his tactics, that’s rubbish, a poor manager can lose you a game which you should win but not by 3 and then 6 goals, that is down solely to the players and their attitudes, of late the likes of Cabaye, Sissoko etc have been vulgar, they do have a chance to redeem themselves, but do they really want to, I have my doubts.

  • 21 yo-yo // May 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    TS

    What training session scrapping are ypu talking about ?

  • 22 Spotlight Kid // May 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Hatem@12
    Good goalies prepared to sit on the bench all season …

    … should be playing in the reserve team for match practice. Sitting the 2nd choice goalie on the bench is utter stupidity. How often will he be needed? This is where the 3rd and 4th choice keepers should be, alternating every game.

    The game is nuts these days. What was wrong with one substitute anyway? OK, two max, but a whole bus full????

  • 23 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    santon

    I don’t understand him. He tried 433 and it worked well last year and when we have attacked in our 4231 this year it looks good as well.

    I can’t understand why he goes back to defensive football. It’s almost like he is determined to prove to himself and others he was right and that defensive is the way to go…when clearly everyone can else see being more attacking is the way for this team to play.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    yo-yo

    not scrapping, just the problems reported in the papers about a rift in training.

    I think the club said it wasn’t a rift as it probably isn’t, just the players might have had words with pardew about how they are set up, that seems to be the gist of it anyway, may be wrong.

    I just thought after that there might have been a chat and they discussed with pardew the way to go, that when they attack they are better etc…and this may have filtered through to our match performance.

  • 25 yo-yo // May 7, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Spoof

    The £64k question is how did we get dumped at home by scum and fools when we nearly had a full strength side out.
    Manager or players ?
    I just can’t think of any reason why pro footballers should be that bad or managed that badly.

  • 26 Transfer Sage // May 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    spoof

    I think the liverpool game was a reaction to what happened over the season, plays showing they are sick of it (not the right way ti go about it but can be effective for them to get a new man in, easy to replace a manager and not 11 players).

    I think they kept fighting to try and get back into the liverpool game but after the 3rd went in they just downed tools and totally stopped playing, was a disgrace by them and they should be blasted for it as much as pardew has been for this season.

  • 27 Hatem's better than Messi // May 7, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    @spotlight kid

    Are you crazy? #22

  • 28 Spoof // May 7, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    yo-yo, TS, good valid points from both of you, which takes us back to my original point, which is the players themselves, if they aren’t putting the effort in we have got no chance at all, it’s not the players job to decide who the manager is, thats MA’s job, if the players are trying to get rid of the manager and we go down as a result of that then I know who I will be holding responsible, and it won’t all be Pardew’s fault, in fact most of the blame will be the players and not him

  • 29 mindshaft // May 7, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Well there’s part of the problem, QPR do not play like West Ham at all and use pace to get behind the fullbacks rather than hoof it up to a big lump.
    Sadly any pace seems to be our undoing and QPR players are playing in the shop window, I therefore predict a defeat and relegation

  • 30 Santon03 // May 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    TS

    he can’t admit that he got it wrong and seeing things just bad luck. I don’t blame him for trying new things, but when it doesn’t work, he starts finding something to blame instead fixing it. He is too arrogant after winning that award imo.
    I don’t see a problem playing defensive tactics, but he got the wrong players to do it. So many attack minded players doing defensive duties, it’s just like asking HBA to play as CB or RB, he will do badly or playing hoofball tactics with Anita, Cabaye, HBA.
    I don’t know what they are doing in the training ground, I’m not sure that they practice the tactics or formation, we have good free kick specialist, but can’t seems to find a target, and so many injuries in the training ground.
    And there is little running off the ball from what I see, most of them are trying to get pass opponents, trying to be spectacular all the time.

  • 31 Santon03 // May 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    TS

    pardew can’t make them work as a unit. he has favourites

  • 32 Spoof // May 7, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Santon03, I don’t believe that in the modern game a defensive approach will ever be successful, in the past a defender could kick lumps out of strikers and get away with it, but now all a player needs to do is look angry and he gets booked, the protection that strikers get now is ridiculous and as a result it is very difficult to defend, all the best teams are attack minded as they know its difficult to stop, Pardew as his George Graham outlook on the game belongs in the past, as you say we don’t have the players for it, and the game doesn’t have the rules for it either.
    Another thing, with a Ben Arfa in full flow getting support from his team mates would make the opponents drop back 10/20 yards anyway, which is the best protection a defence can be given

  • 33 toon kk // May 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Sad to say but I think we’re down. We’ve been very poor all season, mixture of AP style of play and the players not giving 100 percent. I think we’ll struggle in the championship if this carries on. Lets hope we beat qpr because Arsenal will tear us apart.

  • 34 Slank // May 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Transfer Sage,

    I believe that the principal reason why the team appears so defensive is a collective lack of confidence.

    When players lose their confidence they become cautious which often has a Catch 22 effect in that they start to lose games which makes them even more cautious resulting in an ever increasing decline in performance and results.

    We see it every year with the teams at the bottom of the table. There are many reasons why so many of our players have lost their confidence. Some of these reasons possibly include (a) too many games (b) playing when not fully fit (c) trying to integrate too many new players all at once (d) too many new players not ‘up to speed’ with the Premiership and (e) too many key players out injured too often.

    Cabaye and Tiote have been poor this season, well below their abilities. Sissoko, Debuchy and Yanga-Mbiwa are not yet fully acclimatised to the Premiership, similar to Colo when he first started playing for us. Haidara just isn’t good enough, yet. Injuries to Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon, Raylor, Vu?ki?, Krul and Colo have exacerbated an already shaky situation with so many rookies trying to find their Premiership feet alongside experienced players off form.

    I would like to think that the situation will improve in the next two games but these things take time to turnaround and we don’t have that luxury.

  • 35 toonluvva // May 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    The Toon conceded in 10 goals in the games against Sun’lun, LPool & WBA but I can’t really single out 1 where I would blame Elliott.

    Krul is a magnificient keeper and Elliott is a good one. He might even develop into as good a keeper as Krul given the opportunity.

    I would also like to wish Stevie Harper all the best for whatever the future holds for him.

    There may be a parallel with Harper and Elliott, both good keepers in their own rights, but always in the shadows of excellent ones namely Given & Krul.




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