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Papiss Cisse – Fans Have Every Right To Be Discontented

10:18 am, Thursday, May 9th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 69 Comments

Papiss Cisse hasn’t scored for four games – although there were a couple of his efforts that should have resulted in goals, but some poor officiating meant they were disallowed.

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Papiss Cisse – in better times at Newcastle

And since we lost Demba Ba in January, and he hasn’t been replaced, Papiss Cisse has taken the brunt of the responsibility for scoring goals, and he has 13 goals in all competitions, and 26 goals over the last 15 months since he joined the Magpies from SC Freiburg.

This is what Papiss Cisse told the Shields Gazette today:

“We know at the moment it’s a very difficult time for the fans,” “I often see people when I’m out and about on the street, and they tell me how difficult it is.”

“Sometimes, obviously, there might be discontent with the result.” “But I can accept that. It’s our job. As supporters, they’re in their rights to feel like that.”

“But when we go out there we do our best for them and for this club.” “We’re working hard to stay in the Premier League,” “We want to keep this club in the Premier League.”

“We know, for the fans, the best time in their week is when they come and watch their team.”

After Wigan’s loss to Swansea on Tuesday night – it’s been left on a plate for Newcastle to secure our safety in the Premier League with a win at QPR on Sunday.

But it’s an indication of just how uncertain Newcastle fans are at the moment, that it seems a big ask of our team to defeat an already relegated side, who are rock bottom of the league.

A win will surely see us safe – and that’s what we are hoping (and praying ) for.

It will be a huge relief if we can do that on Sunday – and that is  a huge understatement.

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69 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM


    I have no problems with Ashley’s approach just his inability to do it right.

    He wants to develop players yet we have a poor coaching set up and didn’t ensure we got top grade academy status

    He didn’t sign any of the players the manager said we needed to take us forward

    He sells players without having a replacement lined up and end up going months with gaps in the squad.

    He does things the right way but I don’t think he executes the plans very well. He is learning as he goes and having llambias instead of a football man doesn’t help things.

  • 2 Carryingcoals // May 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    For me – I’m a big fan of Cisse. I know he is an eternal frustration (offsides) but he has a great personality and I think he’s a great representative to have as our number 9.
    He’s been very local recently as well during the whole ‘camp divided’ stories that have emerged.
    I think his personality can atone for his on field errors, though having said that, he hasn’t been the worst of an underachieving bunch. He’s actually won us games on his own this year.
    Keep it up Papiss!

  • 3 Carryingcoals // May 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    vocal not local

  • 4 NUFCarter // May 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    surely dummett and newton wont join st mirren they look as though they’ll be in the first divison next season (will be a league above rangers). If they’re to leave they should join a team like bolton whom are interested in em.

  • 5 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Trouble is, if the official is not sure, he guesses off side due to cisse having that problem in his game. Lazy officiating really. It could cost us dearly.

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // May 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    To be honest, if they leave Newcastle, I couldn’t give a monkeys where they end up.

  • 7 Carryingcoals // May 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Well I think Cisse has 6 legitimate goals chalked off

  • 8 martoon // May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Morning Markaccus – I loved the way you started by saying you were tired of reading the same old arguments and then proceeded to drag them all up again. :)
    You get decent debate in the mornings but later on when the ‘Beattie Crew’ arrive it degrades into Pardew bashing and abuse by Beattie if you dare to argue with his superior intellect.
    By the way I thought your summing up of Pardew was pretty accurate.

  • 9 Guj NUFC // May 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Papiss due a brace this sunday, mark my words. Will score a worldy and a header lol.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:36 AM


    not sure on the current offside rule…does benefit of the doubt go to the striker or defender?

    either way cisse is offside so much as he never bends his run officials are going to give the 50/50 calls against him.

  • 11 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    also his goal vs southampton should have been given offside…so he’s technically only down 5 haah

  • 12 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    I think that is massively unfair.

    I don’t start arguments I just end them (or try to).

    If the people of the blog want to start decent debate about anything then come up with something to say rather than bash those who try to talk about nufc.

    Easy to point fingers when all you have to contribute is exactly that.

    Pardew is hot topic because he is the major talking point of the club. Don’t like it don’t read or respond, that is your choice but what would be even better is to start convo about something else.

    Come on then what shall we talk about?

  • 13 ArtyH // May 9, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    The more I look at this article the more it makes sense.

    Would explain a lot of dubious calls against us which were blatantly wrong.

  • 14 Generic Commenter // May 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    How I would love the lads to destroy QPR this weekend but, and I think I speak for everyone here, I have a worry we won’t due to recent displays/results. Dream: Cisse to run riot, 3 goals, Remy to have a woeful afternoon in return for turning his back on us. Nightmare: Newcastle give Remy a glorious afternoon to help him sleep better thinking he made the right decision

  • 15 martoon // May 9, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    I’ve ran the line for my son’s junior football (which I know is nowhere near the same speed or level) and I found the problem was trying to look along the line at the moment the ball is passed. This is especially difficult when the ball is a long way away. You have to look away from the line and so when youy look back you could be looking after the ball is played. Presumably professional linesmen have the same problem which is why I think they can get tight decisions wrong because they look moments after the ball is passed and not as the ball is passed.

  • 16 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    arty H

    what about the pen sunderland weren’t given? the dodgy offsides that got us a point at everton. the cisse goal which was offside vs southampton.

    there are things that go against and in favour, usually even but sometimes it seems to be more one way, but not corrupt.

    If corruption was rife we would have won the league every year with shepherd in charge.

  • 17 Hatem's better than Messi // May 9, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Haidara, Good and Bigi are our most promising youngsters.

    They were all bought for small fees after showing promise playing for their teams.

    Our academy seems an expensive waste of resources.
    The failure rate is so high bringing through sixteen-year-olds.
    They’ll never get games in a top half Prem team, which we should be every season.

    Buy players like Good & Haidara and loan them out for at least a full season.
    Then see how close they are to actually pushing for a starting shirt.

  • 18 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:49 AM


    Exactly, it’s a hard job. And pro footballers are much quicker than officials running the line who need to be exactly in line to get the perfect view, impossible to get 100%


    How about we talk about this betting shop story? were you really banned? haha

  • 19 Guj NUFC // May 9, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Hi Beattie, nice weather here in Birmingham. How about where you are?

  • 20 ArtyH // May 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    @martonn, you have a great point there and this will be the NEXT thing to be corrected ( if and when ) the F.A get enough abuse about. Who cares about talking about and arguing about an incident which incorrectly changes a game, its just frustrating? Time to get it right.

  • 21 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    hatem better than messi

    buying players who are 18-21 is the best way to get players cheap and develop them to suit themelves and the club, we however have poor coaching so they don’t kick on.

    The academy is a great system too, but you need to invest in good coaches and have a real plan on how to bring players through. And those who don’t make it try to get to a level where you can still sell them on for a little bit of a return.

  • 22 nufc786 // May 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

  • 23 Spotlight Kid // May 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Hey lads, just been slipped the original Ashley business plan memo (photocopied from inside of several discarded Mars Bar wrappers picked up by a match day steward and painstakingly sellotaped together by local volunteers):

    From: MA
    To: DL
    cc: AP & staff

    SUBJECT: Max profit from min. expenditure.

    METHOD: Stretch tolerance of long-sufferance and loyalty in ‘docile’ fan base (that historically does not demand success) until it forgets what ‘success’ means.

    *In exercising the core strategic business plan Chairman and manager should not:
    (1) unwittingly cause the NUFC business to drop out of the PL by virtue of team or managerial under-performance or
    (2) unwittingly encourage expectations of trophies / success in following season by virtue of team or managerial over-performance.

    **If there is ever a conflict of interests between the efficient exercising of (1) and (2) then UNDER-PERFORMANCE will always take strategic priority up to and including relegation.

    ***If relegated simply recoup accumulated capital asset values while ring fencing parachute payments as contingency.

    ****Staff should at all times remember our guiding concept is to be financial success without on-field footballing success – all other considerations are secondary.

  • 24 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    I don’t buy into the conspiracy theory about NUFC’s disallowed goals.

    Of the 7 disallowed goals 5 affected the outcome of the game and 3 of those 5 are still inconclusive.

    So 2 goals are ones that were ruled out incorrectly and have resulted in us losing games and those 2 were Benfica and Sunderland, games we deserved nothing from really anyways.

  • 25 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM


    Banned? What and who by?

  • 26 Hatem's better than Messi // May 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Too many unfit puddings are running the lines.

    Sian Massey puts them to shame, she rarely makes a mistake. She bounces down the line like a springbok crossed with a crab. Always in line with the last defender, always watching the game. Wish she was assistant for more of our matches.

    Young, fit assistants would make a huge difference.

  • 27 ArtyH // May 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Transfer Sage,
    you do have a point, however I still think the article has volition and more pro’s than cons.

  • 28 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM


    it’s what sack llambias said this morning a few threads back about you…just wondered about it haha.

    and yeh i agree on the goals, people when they write these articles always seem to forget that things have gone in our favour too, plenty of things have gone our way.

  • 29 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Morning martoon. Yeah i brought up the old stuff so i could highlight the new stuff and give a sumarof where i stood :D . On running the line…. isnt the whole thing about giving the attacker benefit of the doubt due to the fact if it is close, there is every chance he was on sidw as the ball was played?

  • 30 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 10:59 AM


    What about those i mentioned, then

    - the anita tackle over the ball against anzhi at home which should have been a red but wasn’t
    - the countless cabaye tackles he should be booked or sent off for
    - the demba ba handball goal at reading which got us a draw

    It is pretty even really.

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // May 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    To be fair to our academy, that isn’t the crux of the problem. The academy constantly produce regular youth internationals. It is once they turn 18 and move onto the”development” squad that it goes wrong. There is no path for these players once they finish at academy level. It has been just play for the development/reserves. They should be loaned at 18, or if of a good enough quality fast tracked to first team and given a chance.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM


    I thought the benefit went to the attacked but if a player has a reputation for being offside and you are 50/50 probably would go against him.

    Cisse runs in straight lines, if the linesman saw him bend his run it might creat that bit more doubt to get it in his favour. He does himself no favours.

  • 33 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 11:02 AM


    Ed wouldn’t block me because he would lose revenue. All the so called Beattie crew would leave meaning there would be 10 people on here talking about shoe insoles and Peter Andre songs.

    Ha ha ha

    I’ll keep my eye out for Sack Llambias and let him know his plan has failed.

    mwah ahahaha ha ha ha ha ha h ah aha h aha ha

  • 34 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    It annoys me when that lass who runs the line gets loads of stick even if hwr call is correct, wheras the men make loads more mistakes than her and get away with most of them.

  • 35 Ginger // May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    I have a question for you all.

    What would you do if you were given the manager roll at Newcastle United?

    What formation/core would your team have?

    Who would you get rid off?

    What changes would you make to the youth setup?

    What positions would you want to make purchases in?

    Who would you loan out?

    Should be fun if anyone wants to answer them.

  • 36 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    I agree with that t sage, but offsides being called on reputation is a sorry state of affairs isnt it :D . Thats like when barton and smith got yellow cards just for being barton and smith.

  • 37 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM


    no he said you were banned from a betting shop where he knew you from…not here.

    And you mean there is more than one peter andre song? i’m off to the shops

  • 38 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM


    I just read that post from Sack Llambias. It sounds like the ramblings of a mad man.

    Who the hell is Billy and what betting shop am I banned from?

    Does he even know I live in Lancashire?

    Ha ha ha

  • 39 AMEOBI // May 9, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Anyone who’s got qpr ticket how much are they? I’m going buy no idea how much me mate paid for them. Anyone?

  • 40 AMEOBI // May 9, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    I’m going but*

  • 41 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:06 AM


    it’s not ideal but it’s just always in the back of your head he is offside then when it’s close you think, yeh he must be. I never blame linesman for close calls, it must be very hard at that pace to concentrate for 90 mins.

  • 42 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Ginger. 433. Deb-colo-yang-hair
    Cabs socks and a.n.other in mf
    Goofy cisse and hba up front.

    Not sure who id loan out atm.
    We need a couple of strikers and a wing forward. Ideally 2 centerbacks and a right back to cover for debuchy.

  • 43 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    There should be 2 linesmen at either side.

    When they both make the same call it is accepted, when their is one saying yes, one saying no we go to a tv replay.

  • 44 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Sage yes without a doubt it is difficult and not made easier by the way the offside rule and accompanying guidelines are ever changing.

  • 45 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM


    I’d first of all make sure we had top academy status, or push the owner for it.

    i’d ship out simmo, willo, colo, obertan, gosling, shola, sammy…all either not good enough or want to leave.

    i’d bring in a first team CB, a young CB (21ish), a couple forwards and a wide man who can assists and score (sakho, mirin, PEA, mertens and lewendowski styled forward, technical but strong)

    I’d play a 4231 with mertens (if we signed him) cabaye and ben arfa in the middle behind the striker and then sissoko and anita as DM’s.

    With the surrent players i’d start 433 with a narrow front three of cisse, gouff and ben arfa. Then have cabaye, sissoko and anita in the middle, cabaye more advanced but let them judge when to attack and defend depending on situation.

    Bit wordy but my idea anyway.

  • 46 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:15 AM


    TV replay for offside would be a nightmare mate, its not always 100% clear on tv and it would happen so often the game would be stopped.

    Also if they disagree and a team are countering what happens? just stop and drop ball after? would take away too much.

    I think you leave offside’s as it is until a time comes when you can have a chip in the shirt to monitor when a player is offside when the ball is played….decision needs to be instant as it’s during live play, not stopped like a goal over the line.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:16 AM


    and don’t you dare disagree or i’ll get billy

  • 48 Ginger // May 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM


    So no Santon?

    Transfer Sage

    Nice ideas man, I’d be pretty similar to yours. Although would be tempted to put Cabaye CDM instead of Anita and then have Marveux CAM. Really rate Marveux, think he could be world class with a run of games.

    What would your defense be?

  • 49 Ginger // May 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Transfer Sage

    Also, would you not send Obertan out on loan?

  • 50 Markaccus // May 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Ginger. Santon on the bench. I just think that hairdryer and debauchery are better full backs atm. Santonclause can cover both sides for now and is a very decent player to cone on and alter things going forward even from full back.

  • 51 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM


    this season with what we have i’d go for


    debuchy annoyed me with his red card, either frustrated or wanted to be off the pitch, either way not good so maybe simmo in, but debuchy edges it for me.

    I don’t rate santon as a fullback, not under pardew anyway, was cracking under mourinho. I’d have him used further up as a winger.

  • 52 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM


    possibly send obertan on loan but i fear he is just a player who was good as a kid as he was a lot quicker than others in youth football but in senior football he either comes up against equal pace or experience which knows how to deal with his pace.

    he can’t control, cross, pass or shoot consistently enough for a top level player.

    A loan wouldn’t hurt, can’t lower his resale value anymore than it already is…and who knows, something might click

  • 53 Ginger // May 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM


    Very valid point. To be honest I think we have a gem in Haidara, although out of him and Santon I’m not sure which one is better. Santon going forward defiantly, just not sure about defensive wise.

    Transfer Sage
    I’d agree with all of that also, aside from I actually think Santon is an alright fullback. Whoever trains him just needs to tell him to run back, annoys me so much when he’s jogging back and we concede down the left hand side.

    MBiwa has been quality at fullback whenver I’ve seen him, although I’m not sure he’d be to happy playing there to be honest as it’s not his main position.

    On Obertan, I think he could be a decent super sub if trained properly. I’d send him to a championship club so he could get some confidence, I think the lack of confidence is the main thing preventing him from making it.

  • 54 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    2 articles i wrote on German players we cabn look at

  • 55 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM

  • 56 Ulster_Toon // May 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    From previous post, a couple of youngsters should stay, eg Brad Inmam has been impressive out on loan. Need to try him in the first team see if they have got what it takes, if not ship them out.

  • 57 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:38 AM


    i’d just have mbiwa there for the rest of this season

    long term i’d let santon and haidara battle it out.

  • 58 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM


    he hasn’t had confidence for about 4 years now….can’t baby the lad forever.

  • 59 John Tudor // May 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM


  • 60 Big Pappa Cissé // May 9, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    @ Indian

    Nice article. I said last night we should send Carr to Germany as the quality of some of their youngsters is scarily good. Players like: Kroos,Gotze,Reus,Draxxler,Schurrle,Marin,De Bruyne,Gundogan put England prospects to shame.

  • 61 davis_toons // May 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Newcastle got to keep good youth players. They might still have some weakness. But is useful to keep them.

    Most importantly we got to fight hard for any good youth players available around the world..

    Ryo Miyaichi—– I would want to see him on our bench. Damn

    Sebastian Larsson..(didn’t know he was a former gunners)

  • 62 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    ryo miyiachi couldn’t get a game at wigan never mind for us.

  • 63 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM


    Miyaichi has been injured

  • 64 Marty-Toon // May 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM


    I agree with you also that he’s made mistakes
    1 we agree on is having Lambiass in there where you should have a football man
    Also the selling of Carroll and BA without replacements was just ridiculous
    It’s the same old Rich owner that knows nout bout running a football club but what others have done differently is that they got help from football executives to run that side of the club as they’ve done at arsenal,Liverpool,Man Utd,City and Chelsea
    I think he made a mistake with the youth set up thinking we’d make the grade/status but coaches he has seem to be quality with Stone and Beardo in there but we’re seeing little fruit of it and that may be AP deciding who he lets near the 1st team
    Look at Campbell in and around the squad yet doesn’t get a sniff.
    I believe he’s a bit small and lightweight for the PL at the moment but he would cause a greater threat than Shola and our other subs.
    Ap is the man at the end of the day who lets or doesn’t let someone get the time on the field.
    MA has an apportunity to put things right if we stay up this year,he may need to make some changes and it’ll cost no doubt but having an inappropriate manager in charge of int.players you see what we get.
    If AP stays through the summer he won’t get more than a couple of months and if things haven’t changed he’ll be gone,MA won’t wanna be in the same position next year

  • 65 Krul to be Kind // May 9, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    It worries me that if we stay up then it will be seen as a success by the board and Pardew will get next season too!

    The only way I could accept this (and very reluctantly may I add) is if we brought in a Director of Football to oversee his every move and give Pardew guidance on his long list of inadequacies!

  • 66 DokToon // May 9, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    morning all…

    its a great day, sun is shining, birds are chirping, SAF is gonna go old yeller at the end of the season… and toon will be safe by sunday evening…


  • 67 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM


    Llambias would be fine if he had a football man doing football things and he just did financial things, then they could work together coming up with a fair value for a player and hopefully speed up negotiations one way or another.

    AP is useless with kids. Either puts too many in at once or he plays them in the wrong position.

    The way he has handles campbell is a joke. The lad is a striker who plays on the shoulder of the last defender (similar to owen just not as good for age) so should be furthest man forward. When he gets on Pardew sticks him on the left and he has to track back loads.

    I just find Pardew a moron who makes so many bad decisions this year and despite the problems he has managed to make things twice as bad than they should be.

    If we keep him and get rid after a bad few months (providing that happens) its extremely difficult to get a good manager mid season.

    i’m so glad I’m sure he is sacked in the summer so none of this worries me :) bye bye Pardew.

  • 68 Transfer Sage // May 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM


    when he was fit though he wasn’t a starter often, he’s just another obertan as far as i see him.

  • 69 Beattie25 // May 9, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    9 years ago today a large section of fans turned their backs on Sir Bobby Robson after a 1-1 draw against Wolves. It came a few days after a Europa League semi final and on the back of a 3rd place finish the year before.

    We eventually finished 5th that season and Bobby was out shortly after.

    It shows you have far we have fallen that now when some hope to cling onto a manager that has taken us to the brink of relegation in recompense for past sackings.

    Sir Bobby had everything you could ever wanting a manager and is everything Alan could never be.

    We should have stood by Bobby for the good of the club, had we have done that we would’ve had the stability you all yearn for.

    Seeking forgiveness for Sir Bobby doesn’t mean offering just any manager the job and giving him the time to bring us stability.

    We should be looking for the next Sir Bobby, a man who can take us to the next level and do it with all the beauty and grace humanity can offer, and then when times get rough we should stand by him.

    That time isn’t now.

    Maybe there will never be another like Sir Bobby but that doesn’t mean we should stop trying.

    Today is a day that those that wanted Sir Bobby out should hang their heads in shame and today is also a day where those that want us to learn a lesson from his sacking and keep Pardew should also be ashamed.

    Pardew will never be fit to manage this club and should never be afforded the opportunities that not even Sir Bobby was given.

    I will always be vocal in my desire to find a manager who can offer the same qualities that Bobby had and until then we should keep searching for a manager who can take us to that level we once deserved to be at.

    In these past few days since Fergusons retirement my mind returns to Sir Bobby and I think how privileged we were to have such a great manager. If we had had him in the 90′s we would’ve won the league, if we kept him we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    9 years ago today the fans voted with their feet to remove a manager that loved the club and took us to places we had never been before. If Robson wasn’t good enough for you then, then vote again this season by showing this false idol how much you think theis season has stunk.

    We should learn from our mistakes and it would be a shame not to learn from Robsons sacking by accepting the current mediocrity when Bobby took us so much higher.

    People may say ‘hey we sacked Bobby and that’s why we shouldn’t sack Pardew’. Please don’t stain the great mans legacy by comparing the two.

    Pardew will never take us to that level so let’s find a man who can.

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