Papiss Cisse – Fans Have Every Right To Be Discontented


Papiss Cisse hasn’t scored for four games – although there were a couple of his efforts that should have resulted in goals, but some poor officiating meant they were disallowed.

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Papiss Cisse – in better times at Newcastle

And since we lost Demba Ba in January, and he hasn’t been replaced, Papiss Cisse has taken the brunt of the responsibility for scoring goals, and he has 13 goals in all competitions, and 26 goals over the last 15 months since he joined the Magpies from SC Freiburg.

This is what Papiss Cisse told the Shields Gazette today:

“We know at the moment it’s a very difficult time for the fans,” “I often see people when I’m out and about on the street, and they tell me how difficult it is.”

“Sometimes, obviously, there might be discontent with the result.” “But I can accept that. It’s our job. As supporters, they’re in their rights to feel like that.”

“But when we go out there we do our best for them and for this club.” “We’re working hard to stay in the Premier League,” “We want to keep this club in the Premier League.”

“We know, for the fans, the best time in their week is when they come and watch their team.”

After Wigan’s loss to Swansea on Tuesday night – it’s been left on a plate for Newcastle to secure our safety in the Premier League with a win at QPR on Sunday.

But it’s an indication of just how uncertain Newcastle fans are at the moment, that it seems a big ask of our team to defeat an already relegated side, who are rock bottom of the league.

A win will surely see us safe – and that’s what we are hoping (and praying ) for.

It will be a huge relief if we can do that on Sunday – and that is  a huge understatement.

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69 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #1

    Marty

    I have no problems with Ashley’s approach just his inability to do it right.

    He wants to develop players yet we have a poor coaching set up and didn’t ensure we got top grade academy status

    He didn’t sign any of the players the manager said we needed to take us forward

    He sells players without having a replacement lined up and end up going months with gaps in the squad.

    He does things the right way but I don’t think he executes the plans very well. He is learning as he goes and having llambias instead of a football man doesn’t help things.

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  • Carryingcoals

    May 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #2

    For me – I’m a big fan of Cisse. I know he is an eternal frustration (offsides) but he has a great personality and I think he’s a great representative to have as our number 9.
    He’s been very local recently as well during the whole ‘camp divided’ stories that have emerged.
    I think his personality can atone for his on field errors, though having said that, he hasn’t been the worst of an underachieving bunch. He’s actually won us games on his own this year.
    Keep it up Papiss!

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  • Carryingcoals

    May 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #3

    vocal not local

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  • NUFCarter

    May 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #4

    surely dummett and newton wont join st mirren they look as though they’ll be in the first divison next season (will be a league above rangers). If they’re to leave they should join a team like bolton whom are interested in em.

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  • Markaccus

    May 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #5

    Trouble is, if the official is not sure, he guesses off side due to cisse having that problem in his game. Lazy officiating really. It could cost us dearly.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #6

    NUFCarter,
    To be honest, if they leave Newcastle, I couldn’t give a monkeys where they end up.

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  • Carryingcoals

    May 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #7

    Well I think Cisse has 6 legitimate goals chalked off

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  • martoon

    May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #8

    Morning Markaccus – I loved the way you started by saying you were tired of reading the same old arguments and then proceeded to drag them all up again. 🙂
    You get decent debate in the mornings but later on when the ‘Beattie Crew’ arrive it degrades into Pardew bashing and abuse by Beattie if you dare to argue with his superior intellect.
    By the way I thought your summing up of Pardew was pretty accurate.

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  • Guj NUFC

    May 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Papiss due a brace this sunday, mark my words. Will score a worldy and a header lol.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #10

    carrying

    not sure on the current offside rule…does benefit of the doubt go to the striker or defender?

    either way cisse is offside so much as he never bends his run officials are going to give the 50/50 calls against him.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #11

    also his goal vs southampton should have been given offside…so he’s technically only down 5 haah

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  • Beattie25

    May 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #12

    I think that is massively unfair.

    I don’t start arguments I just end them (or try to).

    If the people of the blog want to start decent debate about anything then come up with something to say rather than bash those who try to talk about nufc.

    Easy to point fingers when all you have to contribute is exactly that.

    Pardew is hot topic because he is the major talking point of the club. Don’t like it don’t read or respond, that is your choice but what would be even better is to start convo about something else.

    Come on then what shall we talk about?

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  • ArtyH

    May 9, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #13

    The more I look at this article the more it makes sense.

    http://soccerwithoutlimits.com/newcastle-united-premier-league-corruption/25824/

    Would explain a lot of dubious calls against us which were blatantly wrong.

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  • Generic Commenter

    May 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #14

    How I would love the lads to destroy QPR this weekend but, and I think I speak for everyone here, I have a worry we won’t due to recent displays/results. Dream: Cisse to run riot, 3 goals, Remy to have a woeful afternoon in return for turning his back on us. Nightmare: Newcastle give Remy a glorious afternoon to help him sleep better thinking he made the right decision

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  • martoon

    May 9, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #15

    I’ve ran the line for my son’s junior football (which I know is nowhere near the same speed or level) and I found the problem was trying to look along the line at the moment the ball is passed. This is especially difficult when the ball is a long way away. You have to look away from the line and so when youy look back you could be looking after the ball is played. Presumably professional linesmen have the same problem which is why I think they can get tight decisions wrong because they look moments after the ball is passed and not as the ball is passed.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #16

    arty H

    what about the pen sunderland weren’t given? the dodgy offsides that got us a point at everton. the cisse goal which was offside vs southampton.

    there are things that go against and in favour, usually even but sometimes it seems to be more one way, but not corrupt.

    If corruption was rife we would have won the league every year with shepherd in charge.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 9, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #17

    Haidara, Good and Bigi are our most promising youngsters.

    They were all bought for small fees after showing promise playing for their teams.

    Our academy seems an expensive waste of resources.
    The failure rate is so high bringing through sixteen-year-olds.
    They’ll never get games in a top half Prem team, which we should be every season.

    Buy players like Good & Haidara and loan them out for at least a full season.
    Then see how close they are to actually pushing for a starting shirt.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #18

    martoon

    Exactly, it’s a hard job. And pro footballers are much quicker than officials running the line who need to be exactly in line to get the perfect view, impossible to get 100%

    Beattie

    How about we talk about this betting shop story? were you really banned? haha

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  • Guj NUFC

    May 9, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #19

    Hi Beattie, nice weather here in Birmingham. How about where you are?

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  • ArtyH

    May 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #20

    @martonn, you have a great point there and this will be the NEXT thing to be corrected ( if and when ) the F.A get enough abuse about. Who cares about talking about and arguing about an incident which incorrectly changes a game, its just frustrating? Time to get it right.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #21

    hatem better than messi

    buying players who are 18-21 is the best way to get players cheap and develop them to suit themelves and the club, we however have poor coaching so they don’t kick on.

    The academy is a great system too, but you need to invest in good coaches and have a real plan on how to bring players through. And those who don’t make it try to get to a level where you can still sell them on for a little bit of a return.

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  • Spotlight Kid

    May 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #23

    Hey lads, just been slipped the original Ashley business plan memo (photocopied from inside of several discarded Mars Bar wrappers picked up by a match day steward and painstakingly sellotaped together by local volunteers):

    From: MA
    To: DL
    cc: AP & staff

    SUBJECT: Max profit from min. expenditure.

    METHOD: Stretch tolerance of long-sufferance and loyalty in ‘docile’ fan base (that historically does not demand success) until it forgets what ‘success’ means.

    *In exercising the core strategic business plan Chairman and manager should not:
    (1) unwittingly cause the NUFC business to drop out of the PL by virtue of team or managerial under-performance or
    (2) unwittingly encourage expectations of trophies / success in following season by virtue of team or managerial over-performance.

    **If there is ever a conflict of interests between the efficient exercising of (1) and (2) then UNDER-PERFORMANCE will always take strategic priority up to and including relegation.

    ***If relegated simply recoup accumulated capital asset values while ring fencing parachute payments as contingency.

    ****Staff should at all times remember our guiding concept is to be financial success without on-field footballing success – all other considerations are secondary.

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  • Beattie25

    May 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #24

    I don’t buy into the conspiracy theory about NUFC’s disallowed goals.

    Of the 7 disallowed goals 5 affected the outcome of the game and 3 of those 5 are still inconclusive.

    So 2 goals are ones that were ruled out incorrectly and have resulted in us losing games and those 2 were Benfica and Sunderland, games we deserved nothing from really anyways.

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  • Beattie25

    May 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #25

    Sage

    Banned? What and who by?

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #26

    Too many unfit puddings are running the lines.

    Sian Massey puts them to shame, she rarely makes a mistake. She bounces down the line like a springbok crossed with a crab. Always in line with the last defender, always watching the game. Wish she was assistant for more of our matches.

    Young, fit assistants would make a huge difference.

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  • ArtyH

    May 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #27

    Transfer Sage,
    you do have a point, however I still think the article has volition and more pro’s than cons.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #28

    beattie

    it’s what sack llambias said this morning a few threads back about you…just wondered about it haha.

    and yeh i agree on the goals, people when they write these articles always seem to forget that things have gone in our favour too, plenty of things have gone our way.

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  • Markaccus

    May 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #29

    Morning martoon. Yeah i brought up the old stuff so i could highlight the new stuff and give a sumarof where i stood 😀 . On running the line…. isnt the whole thing about giving the attacker benefit of the doubt due to the fact if it is close, there is every chance he was on sidw as the ball was played?

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #30

    artyH

    What about those i mentioned, then

    – the anita tackle over the ball against anzhi at home which should have been a red but wasn’t
    – the countless cabaye tackles he should be booked or sent off for
    – the demba ba handball goal at reading which got us a draw

    It is pretty even really.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #31

    To be fair to our academy, that isn’t the crux of the problem. The academy constantly produce regular youth internationals. It is once they turn 18 and move onto the”development” squad that it goes wrong. There is no path for these players once they finish at academy level. It has been just play for the development/reserves. They should be loaned at 18, or if of a good enough quality fast tracked to first team and given a chance.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #32

    markaccus

    I thought the benefit went to the attacked but if a player has a reputation for being offside and you are 50/50 probably would go against him.

    Cisse runs in straight lines, if the linesman saw him bend his run it might creat that bit more doubt to get it in his favour. He does himself no favours.

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  • Beattie25

    May 9, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #33

    Sage

    Ed wouldn’t block me because he would lose revenue. All the so called Beattie crew would leave meaning there would be 10 people on here talking about shoe insoles and Peter Andre songs.

    Ha ha ha

    I’ll keep my eye out for Sack Llambias and let him know his plan has failed.

    mwah ahahaha ha ha ha ha ha h ah aha h aha ha

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  • Markaccus

    May 9, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #34

    It annoys me when that lass who runs the line gets loads of stick even if hwr call is correct, wheras the men make loads more mistakes than her and get away with most of them.

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  • Ginger

    May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #35

    I have a question for you all.

    What would you do if you were given the manager roll at Newcastle United?

    What formation/core would your team have?

    Who would you get rid off?

    What changes would you make to the youth setup?

    What positions would you want to make purchases in?

    Who would you loan out?

    Should be fun if anyone wants to answer them.

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  • Markaccus

    May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #36

    I agree with that t sage, but offsides being called on reputation is a sorry state of affairs isnt it 😀 . Thats like when barton and smith got yellow cards just for being barton and smith.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #37

    beattie

    no he said you were banned from a betting shop where he knew you from…not here.

    And you mean there is more than one peter andre song? i’m off to the shops

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  • Beattie25

    May 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #38

    Sage

    I just read that post from Sack Llambias. It sounds like the ramblings of a mad man.

    Who the hell is Billy and what betting shop am I banned from?

    Does he even know I live in Lancashire?

    Ha ha ha

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  • AMEOBI

    May 9, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #39

    Anyone who’s got qpr ticket how much are they? I’m going buy no idea how much me mate paid for them. Anyone?

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  • AMEOBI

    May 9, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #40

    I’m going but*

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