Newcastle’s Situation Eerily Similar To Relegation Season


In May of 2009 with two games to go, we all thought we were sitting pretty in 4th bottom place, but above Hull City on goal difference,  and we had just gained 3 points on Hull City when we beat Middlesbrough 3-1 at home on a Monday night.

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Alan Shearer – couldn’t save us four years ago

We had a home game against Fulham coming up on the Saturday, and they had won only two games away all season,  and we thought a win against the Cottagers would make us safe, before we went to Villa Park on the last day of the season.

So the situation was similar to where we are now – we are 4th bottom having just gained 3 points over 3rd bottom side Wigan, when they lost at home to Swansea 3-2 on Tuesday night.

And now we are saying that a win tomorrow at QPR could make us safe, so the QPR game tomorrow is similar to the Fulham game four years ago.

Unfortunately we can still go down – and if we lose tomorrow at QPR,  things could quickly become very dark for Newcastle.

Nobody expected Newcastle to lose to Fulham four years ago, after such a great win against Middlesbrough, but we lost the game 1-0 in front of a sold-out St. James’ Park.

If we lose tomorrow, it would mean that Wigan would need to get one win from their last two games at Arsenal and at Villa Park, and they would overtake Newcastle on goal difference.

Of course we could save ourselves against Arsenal a week tomorrow at St. James’ Park.

But with defeats of 3-0 and 6-0 when the chips were down in our last two home games in front of sold-out crowds, somehow we don’t think this team would be heavily backed to get anything out of Arsenal, if we are indeed in trouble by the final game of the season.

Hence we simply cannot lose at QPR tomorrow – and a win will save us – but it will not be easy.

We’re still on thin ice as far as relegation goes.

What do you think?

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16 comments so far

  • catchy in norway

    May 11, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #1

    7catchy in norway // May 11, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    my only worry is him staying

    he was right , the city is linked to the club & he single handely is dragging it down

    there is a dark cloud that follows him

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  • toonaids

    May 11, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #2

    relegated!

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 11, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #3

    I think Pardew will play for a 0-0 draw.
    Hoping Cisse will score one of his injury-time specials.

    Jonas will start probably out of position, HBA subbed at 60mins, Gouffran subbed at 70 mins, we’ll play well in the first half but won’t score, then we’ll sit back and defend our point.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 11, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #4

    Funny to see Pardew say Ashley has failed as an owner! I can see that P45 being prepared now (well hopefully!)

    I missed the BBC interview with Pardew. Were the questions just very tame as per ? Or did anyone ask any of the following:-

    1) Why are players played out of position. Anita can’t get a game despite 3 successive m.o.m’s. Cabs is played too deep, Marveaux is often on the bench and Cisse is sometimes a winger!

    2) Why does he always play his favourites regardless of form. We all know who they are.

    3) The reasoning behind his many bizarre substitutions?

    4) Why are we always so negative, dour and and negative, ie playing 3 x DMs at home with 10 men behind the ball in their own half for large periods?
    Why do we always sit on 1-0 leads and not go for a second killer goal?

    5) Why do we play so many long balls when we have some terrific technical flair players? Why use those tactics for such a good squad ?

    6) Why is there not more attacking coaching?

    7) Why are out set pieces so unimaginative and laughably unproductive?

    8) Why is Shola our only plan B?

    9) INJURIES – what are you doing in training? Why was Ben Arfa brought back to start a game on a plastic pitch in sub-zero conditions with inevitable disastrous results?

    10) Why are the players so unfit?

    Finally. Why is everything about him and not the club? Why does he say things go against him personally instead of the team?
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Does anyone know if any of the above were mentioned?

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 11, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #5

    We’re only safe cos Wigan blew it on Tuesday night but looking at the form guide we’re mighty lucky as another couple of weeks and we had relegation written all over us.

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  • Toondog2

    May 11, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #6

    If we do stay up and it is a big if , then it will be down to lady luck ..
    Arsenal need to win both their Games to ensure Champions League status . Very tight at the top between Spurs, Chelsea and the Arsenal
    We will know more be the end of today
    The only saving grace is that Wigan play this evening and again on Tuesday and again on Saturday after so they may well be tired and lose both their last 2 EPL games
    here`s hoping anyway
    HWTL. Squeaky Bum time !!

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  • WWYCD

    May 11, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #7

    For the first time I can see Pardew not being manager next season after taking a shot at Ashley, not that he was lying but he won’t like that one bit

    Though if he does say he’s fairly untouchable

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  • Toondog2

    May 11, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #8

    Rotunda ,

    Good points.

    I would love to hear the answers from the Master Tactician!!!!!!
    It would be everybody`s fault except his

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #9

    Thanks toondog.

    The master tactician is now saying staying up would be regarded as a success!!!

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 11, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #10

    “Some of the performances have been good.” “But we haven’t got the points.” “For somebody who prides himself on tactical knowledge and the way I assemble teams, that’s been a major disappointment.”

    This quote sums up Pardew’s total clueless ineptitude to manage at a high level and delusion into thinking what he’s doing is right.

    His tactical knowledge is abysmal, as any Sunday league mamager can tell the team to hit the front man with the ball early or get 10 men behind the ball.

    Premier League managers are expected to formulate attacks so the players know exactly what they are doing when pushing forward. Defence should be combined into the attack.

    This statement is arguably top of the wealth of lies which Pardew continues to spout in his frankly awful media interviews, although many are close Of a similar ilk.

    Prides himself on tactics? Anyone can sit back and defend for their lives. He cannot see that his negativity is causing low morale in the players and is taking away the joy of playing football, by having the flair players defend all game whilst also limiting their attacks.

    His player selections are inexcusable based on form and productivity, yet he tells us he prides himself on tactics? Abysmal, and he’s only showing his extreme areogance again. Poor results have come from his poor decisions, not from correct decisioms which he is deluded enough to think he makes.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #11

    Ans mentioning Ashley as having underachieved is a BIG no no. I’m beginning to think that he either knows his fate already or knows exactly what is imminent and is just laying some seeds now to show that it’s not just his fault.

    To an extent, this is true, and we should have signed players in the summer, but, he is making MANY simple and basic mistakes in setting up the team. So
    .. if he can’t even do that(!) Any new players are just paper overing the many cracls which we have.

    Even then, he has sucked the life out of the new players since January. I’m so frustrated what he has been doing to the club.

    From these quotes in the last few days, I’m pretty sure he already must know his fate and that maybe Sage’s info is coming true. Could be wrong, but pulling Ashley up on underachieving is NOT the thing to do to try and keep your job.

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  • Toondog2

    May 11, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #12

    Laurent Robert,

    Absolutely.
    But how do we get rid and get a manager who has an idea . I would like to see Rafa Benites but he would want control of transfers and I am not sure if MA or DL would relinquish that sort of control . However if he( Benites) was given a budget and freedom I would see significant improvement in the Toon .
    It is interesting to see the emergence of German Teams as the rising Stars . I predict Germany will win the World Cup .
    Fit and tactically aware and organised with flair as well

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  • magpie6699

    May 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #13

    Is this a summary of the facts?
    1. If Wigan can’t get a win in their last 2 games we are safe already with the 3 points lead
    2. If we could get 4 points we would be guaranteed survival.
    3. If Villa lose today, 3 points guarantees survival
    4. If Wigan draw on Tuesday, 2 points is enough for us
    5. If Wigan lose on Tuesday, 1 point is enough for us
    4. If my aunty had balls she’d be my uncle

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  • Sav

    May 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #14

    Well 2 things from Pardew’s commrents: Firstly, he doesn’t sound arrogant, and secondly, he is showing some balls and honesty (in stating the bleedin’ obvious) that the biggest problem we had this season was lack of proper investment for a side in Europe whose main striker was essentially holding a ‘get out of jail free’ card instead of a contract of employment.

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  • toonluvva

    May 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #15

    In 2009 I was convinced that there were at least 3 or 4 clubs that were worse than us and that we would survive.

    Of course I was wrong then.

    This season Reading & QPR are already relegated and whilst Wigan are looking dodgy at the moment our awful goal difference could doom us if they get another 3 points and we continue with our downward spiral.

    I’ve got my fingers crossed that Wigan are NOT going to pick up many more points saving our bacon.

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  • Phil K

    May 11, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #16

    Was thinking this myself. Then, a pack of sulking NON performing players couldn’t give a shit for the club, or the horror of relegation. they’d just move on. Epitomised by Michael Owen. This season, an incompetent as manager, who’d make even Big Al and his mate look like Fergie, and once again, sulking players who are probably thinking of where they’d play if their current employers went down. Yet again, the faithful suffering fans. Who – astonishingly – are the ones who get the abuse from the media. I have no faith whatsoever in that fool or the players getting ANYTHING from Arsenal, and maybe ONE point at best from QPR ….I actually have a horrible feeling we’ll get stuffed 3-0 by QPR, they’re down, pressures off and our lot don’t like a fight and maybe 0-0 v Arsenal but thing is – 0-3 and 0-6 home games make home NOT where the heart (or performances) are.

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