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QPR vs Newcastle – Match Preview – Magpies Must Produce

8:59 pm, Saturday, May 11th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 101 Comments

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This is the biggest game of the season for Newcastle tomorrow afternoon at bottom of the table and already relegated Queens Park Rangers.
It’s also a crucial game for manager Alan Pardew – and it’s a chance to see us safe in the league before the last game of the season a week tomorrow.

A win will see us safe – officially – and a draw would be a very decent point – but a defeat would put us in real danger of being relegated for the second time in four years – which would be a complete disaster for Newcastle.

And if the relegation battle goes down to the last game of the season, we wouldn’t fancy our chances too much.

That’s because in the last two home matches against Sunderland and Liverpool we’ve been hammered 9-0 by a cumulative score – and it seems just too much for some of our players – some of whom seemed to give up in those two games.

There’s too many similarities with four years ago when we thought we were looking in a good position with two games to play – bu lost both of them and found ourselves relegated.

This is what Alan Pardew said about the game today:

“They’re professionals and any professional team is difficult to beat. Sometimes it’s about falling on teams; I think QPR three or four weeks ago have had some tricky games but they’ve got themselves together a little bit better.”

“Certainly against Arsenal they were a lot more disciplined and I think that’s the team we’ll face, so it’s not going to be easy.” “They’ve got goalscorers – Bobby Zamora who I’ve worked with at West Ham, Loic Remy who we tried to bring here.”

“So we know the two strikers very well and we’re going to need to be on our guard against them because they can get goals. “And obviously they have(Adel Taarabt who is their Hatem Ben Arfa.”

“He can create something out of nothing. I can’t say that this game is a game that we’re confident of winning but we’re positive in our attitude to go there and try and win.” “There was a little bit of tension lifted when the result came through, you could sense that at the training ground, but it doesn’t make the task easier,”

“We still need to get something at QPR and hopefully get ourselves an away win. Our away form has been poor this year so hopefully that’s what we’ll do.”

“We still need to get something at QPR and hopefully get ourselves an away win. Our away form has been poor this year so hopefully that’s what we’ll do.” “We’ve still got six points to play for”

“We think they’re two games we can win, with one of them being a home game, and that’s what we’re going to have to do – try and get six points because six points at this stage is going to jump you considerably up the league.

“On Sunday, we’re going to have look for a positive result and then hopefully get a result against Arsenal.”

Let’s put Alan’s words into perspective – QPR may have good strikers but they have scored only 29 goals this season in 36 matches, and after all they are already relegated and are bottom of the league, and have won only four games all season and lost 19.

You could argue that the best team to play at this stage of the season for Newcastle is the bottom of the league side, who are already relegated, and there are rumors that some of their players are showing signs of not caring too much about the club’s situation.

Moussa Sissoko and Shola Ameobi are out for the season, but it looks like Davide Santon and Sylvain Marveaux are fit again, and we think they will start on the bench – which will be a strong one.

And we have to think that Sylvain Marveaux will be introduced at some point in the second half, as he has a few assists for us this season, and has looked a good player.

We are assuming Massadio Haidara is still out with his hamstring problem, so here’s the team that could start tomorrow:

Elliot
Simpson Coloccini (c) Taylor (S) Yanga-Mbiwa
Ben Arfa Cabaye Tiote Gutierrez
Gouffran Cisse
Subs: Harper Debuchy Santon Perch Ferguson Marveaux Campbell

What would your team be for tomorrow?

If Newcastle manage to lose this game – against a team sho have only scored 29 goals this season – then there’s a case that could be made that we may even deserve to be relegated, because we’ve choked over the last eight games – when other teams are starting to fight their way clear of relegation.

Anything but a defeat would be an acceptable result tomorrow afternoon, and in our poll only 15% think we’ll lose this game.

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101 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tinman - Pardwho? // May 11, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Jail, it doesnt matter why we went down in 2009. It has no relevance to the post.
    The point I made in my last post was that Ashley is not the man who increases a players confidence and morale. Its not his job. That is the job of the manager. End of.

  • 2 thespecialone-ameobi // May 11, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    A Lot off you guys want pardew gone and sadly so do i, there arent many people who will want the job. so stop dreaming, i say there is only one man for the job
    one man who can save us
    one man who can take us to the top 4
    one man who might even deliver us the title
    one man who will make us great
    SHOLLLLAAAAAA AMEOBIIIIII

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // May 11, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Tin man,
    it is actually very relevant,the same players that showed the fight and resilience in 2008 to stop us getting relegated gave up the fight in 2009 and a very different bunch of players who got us to fifth in 2012 chucked the towel in on 2013 how many managers do you want to blame for that.

  • 4 BDin9 // May 11, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Can we really blow it now. I hope not,but we have the best manager that can ensure that we can.

  • 5 thespecialone-ameobi // May 11, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    BDin9

    I think if ameobi was playing we would off 10000percent stayed up very nervous about tomorrow

  • 6 wreker16 // May 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    “I can’t say this is a game we are confident of winning”

    Against bottom of the league.

    When we have everything to play for.

    With him and the players up for it (I hope)

    And we are still not confident.

    Why oh why , is he employed

  • 7 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    I can see it now

    Harper
    Simpson, williamson, taylor Mbiwa
    debuchy colo, tiote, cabaye, santon
    cisse

    a couple of shots from 60 yards and we’ll win 2-0

  • 8 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    and in his post match interview he’ll say we had a real go, we defended admirably, we showed we were together as team and above all we didn’t lose!

  • 9 Keith in France // May 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Having watched the Cup Final -Wigan were excellent.

    They showed passion, pride and a belief – something our team have never shown this season .

    I don’t care about the manager or the comments from the team about how they are focused and committed to the cause – this season something has happened and they are plainly not.

    Our team is simply not good enough and if they have to rely on others to stay up then that says it all.

    The only thing we have that few teams can compete with is a fantastic and world beating set of supporters.

    For too long we have been treated to underperforming teams – blame the manager or the owner if you like but they doesn’t step out on the pitch every week -the players must take some of the responsibility.

    Last season was a fluke nothing more – if we had a decent team we would simply be not in this position we are in now.

    I am not confident at all about tomorrow – I hope for all our terrific supporters I am wrong.

  • 10 northernirishtoon // May 11, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Can’t read this mans quotes now without dissecting them and getting angry

    He doesn’t fill you with much confidence does he

    If he can’t give the fans confidence, then I doubt the players will be filled with confidence either

  • 11 do the hatem shake // May 11, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    so pardew team talk tomorrow “right they are relegated the pressure is on us we will defend as a unit until ben arfa comes on which will be the 80 min then we will give the ball to him and sit and watch the magic happen”

  • 12 Keith in France // May 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Why couldn’t our manager say ‘ we are all fired up ,the players and staff -we are going to give it our very best shot and if we fail it won’t be for the want of trying I can promise the supports that’
    He sounds like we are beaten already.

  • 13 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    lets hope the team takes charge by ignoring Pardew tomorrow and going out there playing the way they want to play

  • 14 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    win is needed, i think we will draw but still jut survive, Need a change in manager asap. Whoever comes in, needs the entire transfer window and all of pre season with the squad. Then a realistic target is top 10 or top 8 hopefully. If we lose then need a result against arsenal it really will be squeaky bum time

  • 15 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    ulster…you’re absolutely right…the new manager should be in for June to talk the players into staying by explaining how things will change and the shape of the football to come

  • 16 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Team for tomorrow, id go for (4-3-3)

    Elliot
    Debuchy
    Yanga Mbiwa
    Colo
    Santon
    Anita
    Sissoko
    Cabaye
    Ben Arfa
    Cisse
    Marveaux

  • 17 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    you don’t like my suggestion @7 then????

  • 18 do the hatem shake // May 11, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    is marvuex confirmed to be back?

  • 19 Papiss9 // May 11, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    What the h*** is wrong with Pardew.. How can he say that, trying to lower expectations? against bottomtable team who’s already down. Let’s f**** crush them. Show some desire and will to win. haven’t seen that for a while. When “his” team scores a goal all he wants to do is protect the lead, which he has shown this season is a very unclever way to get points

  • 20 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Sparky, hopefully the new manager (rafa?) will let the team play football and have some tactical ability. Tired of the defensive and negative attitude and the constant hoofball. And tired of watching quality internationals (anita to name one) struggle due to woeful tatics

  • 21 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    I would never, ever take a cup and Europe if we got relegated in the same month. One cup, or building a team’s season in the top flight?

    Do not get romanticised by the cliche of cup football, Wigan only beat Everton and City as good opposition – and by god were City awful.

    I would love it, just love it if Wigan go down, lose all their TV money, can’t get back up and go into administration – just like DW/JJB sports.

  • 22 BDin9 // May 11, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    Einstein theory on stupidity might actually be relevant for us fans as well lol

  • 23 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    ulster…you’re bang on the money again…even if we stay up the players will leave in droves if Pardew is allowed to stay…the footballers in the team all hate him and you can see it in their faces.

    Ashley needs to understand the squad will inevitably be broken up if we go down resulting in Pardew being sacked of course…and if we survive the team will also be broken up because none of players have any respect for Pardew any more…so fat boy…what you gonna do

  • 24 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Right anyone who classes Pardew as defensive, please can you elaborate without the line “holds onto a 1 goal lead”?

    Personally I think the most effective, succesful and above all pleasing to watch is defensively building from the back, working as a team to protect posession and being able to get defenders in the right places at the right time.

    “Sitting back” is not defensive, it is a counter attacking mentality that we can’t play because Coloccini can’t play it out (hasn’t been on form/away injured), only have 1 striker who can’t pass or hold the ball, and have no real wingers to take it up the lines.

  • 25 marshy // May 11, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    i can’t believe he is picking jonas again, it’s like playing with tn men.

  • 26 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Marshy he is the closest thing to a left back we have, how sad is that?

  • 27 tom68 // May 11, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    You know lads Ashley is going to be so angry at Wigan and Whelan winning the f.a cup that it might work out best for us. Hopefully he will sack Pardew and most of the background team and then throw a fair amount of money at getting a top manager and coaching team.
    I think we will see him spend a lot in the summer to try and bring us success just to throw in Whelans face cos u can be sure Whelan will be giving it large and hopefully driving Ashley nuts.

  • 28 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    AAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH – what the ffffffffffffffffffffffffff//ck is pardew saying? ” hes not confident of going there and getting a win”
    He has bigged evey qpr player up and not mentioned 1 of his own players. has anyone ever heard a player or manager say in an interview that they are not confident? a must win game and he has got the players sh\\ting themselves ., beat before they get off the bus ! , that is truly a disgrace , even by pathetic pompis pardews own despicable standards. f;;ck man he has to go.!
    if we get beat tomorrow he has to go , and let the team sort themselves out against arsenal. and we may have a chance

  • 29 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Pardew’s such a muppet he’s defensive even when we’re losing. Not quite sure what you’re trying to do with this one AndyNUFC but one thing’s for sure…we’re too defensive minded and when cabaye’s been told to sit just in front of the back four then we know we’re in trouble because there is no link between midfield and attack.

    The number of times I’ve seen Cabaye on the ball and no-one runs past him to help move the ball up the pitch is so frustrating it’s just not true. There’s so much wrong with the way Pardew sets up his teams and plays players out of position it’s just a big mess that produces poor performances and resulting low league position. We need a manager who can get them playing football again and I hope we can talk Martinez into coming to do just that

  • 30 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 11, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Our away form has been no poorer than our home form its all been shit and Pardew says he`s a winner at what marbles

  • 31 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Stuart I hope the players take his message in the meant way – it is a huge pressure game, there is no way we can be confident of just walking through a relegated team for 3 points.

  • 32 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Andy, to give an example a few games back. We started with 3 defensive midfielders. And even then they gave no defensive cover and no attacking threat. I will give it to you that the odd game we do play quite attacking football, just look at the arsenal or man U games. But these games have been few and far between, its fine getting 11 men behind the ball to play the counter attack. But we cant even do that properly. we defend then play hoofball, if we countered with some nice passes and pace onto the ball with players running into space it would be different.

  • 33 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Like that a lot tom68!. let’s hope you’re right!

  • 34 papscrunt // May 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Pardew really talks more rubbish than Willie McFaul. Something I never thought I’d say at all. ‘Robertson hasn’t settled in the North East, He’s homesick’ My favourite crap quote of all time by one of our managers. Edinburgh is just up the A1 Willie, Robertson was just pure crap.

  • 35 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    also – pardew asks the fans to be “super positive” after that interview ??? the man is sick .

  • 36 The_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Everyone is complaining about Pardew’s comments! Do you expect him to say infront of the press “we will hammer QPR” obviously not! That’s something to be said in the dressing room. Get behind the team and staff till the end of the season then complain as much as you guys want

  • 37 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    Sparky what a load of rubbish, Martinez for an attacking rejunivation? You would prefer 3 centre backs… so we attack more…

    And Cabaye, nor Ben arfa are above getting back to help. Tiote has been woeful so no wonder Cabaye has taken more defensive duty, but yet again you blame players not running on Pardews set up. What set up? He has 1 bloody striker who was born offside, and no choice of wingers.

  • 38 papattack // May 11, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    he is such a negative manager, hes almost preparing us for the way hes going to get the lads to play for a point and hope wigan lose at the emirates.

    pardew really gets on my tits these days. one minute its we’re nufc we’re massive we should win every game blah blah blah. next minute its, well we’re gunna go down to qpr and give it a right old go. but dont forget they do have tarrabt and zamora… oh no!! that guy who couldnt hit a barn door with a banjo and another nugget whos always trying to score wonder goals every game but never does?!?!

    why does he talk the opposition up, why not talk us up and our players? lets hope we win and he gets the chop at the end of the season in favour of a manager with testosterone levels higher than an 8 year old girl.

  • 39 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    the_toon we’re way past that point in time mate…he doesn’t deserve our support anymore because he’s sold us down the river with his arrogant ineptitude…I’ll support the team but will never support that self preening knob so long as I’ve got a hole in me @rse

  • 40 papattack // May 11, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    i want martinez at newcastle brilliant job with a poor wigan squad for a long time and now hes got them an fa cup to boot.

    i really think the french lads would relish playing his way. doubt it will happen though. probably go to everton.

  • 41 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    ouch AndyNUFC…wot the hell brought that on! r u seriously suggesting martinez sets up not to lose and doesn’t get his team to play football rather than goofball?

    I’m not sure what you’re arguing about here to be honest…not even sure if you’re defending pards or slating that’s how confused I am!

  • 42 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Ulster, given the scoreline and the ‘effort’ our defence apparently made in that game, wouldnt you think 3 men in midfield was quite a safe choice?

    The_Toon, totally right. Some Davis Toon mug has been saying that if Pardew had Ronaldo he would tell him to defend and make him a bad player.

    Quite the opposite – just like playing Sissoko on the wing against Liverpool Pardew is desperate for a natural winger to support the midfield and supply Cisse. It worked as a central attacker/second striker against Chelsea, Kharkiv and Benfica. Bottom line is no Ba, no Coloccini and a missing Ben Arfa have completely unbalanced a team disjointed from multiple injuries and squad rotations from extra games.

    If anything, with some luck and good players Pardew can get 5th – no luck and gambling on January signings has cost us, so he deserves another couple of years with the full backing to get us back to top 5

  • 43 Zero // May 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Wow Pards is already making up excuses for losing tomorrow…. let me guess, well we went out and tried real hard, i though it could have been two or three in the first half, but they came out in the second half and wanted it more… the pressure blah blah blah

  • 44 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    andy @ 31 — that is very true- but the golden rule is – dont tell the opposition that ! without a shadow of a doubt , they have the upper hand now as far as the mind games go . you never say what he said – never. have you ever heard anyone say that before a must win game , or any game for that matter

  • 45 northernirishtoon // May 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Ulster toon

    Love that team

    That’s probably our best eleven which means there is no chance he will play it

  • 46 The_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    I actually thought Pardew would be a bit creative with his tactics this year however he has disappointed. That’s the only reason why I’d go for Martinez as he is more creative

  • 47 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    careful the_toon…you’re about to get lambasted!

  • 48 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Well Sparky thats a new one, goofball? Haha. I just dont understand why you think that scraping the last few games to stay up is an improvement manager? Martinez is not attacking, in fact every manager sets up to not lose – its the only way, but its the difference is being able to use players in a certain way to hit the opposition after not conceding. Simple principles but I would look at a team like Everton as a benchmark, sustained success, a brilliant defence, but also the right players to pass to in midfield and finish an attack.

  • 49 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    damn my sausage fingers!

  • 50 Laurent Robert 32 // May 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    He should be saying in the media “We ARE going to win this” and he needs to be relaying that to the players.

    Under no circumstances must this be anything other than a win he should be telling everyone and not entertaining any negativity whatsoever. He’s already defeatist in his comments. There’s Martinez telling his players to have belief that nothing can put them down.

    Confidence is massive in sports of all levels. Pardew continues to drain every ounce of it from his players and the supporters.

  • 51 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Andy there is some truth in “attack is the best form of defense” the longer we keep possession, play in the right areas, threaten their goal the less time they have to actually score. Just playing a totally defensive team and saying “at least they wont score too many” isnt the way to go. Of course there is a compramise in all this. But too many times this year we have been far too defensive for the quality we have

  • 52 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    “in fact every manager sets up to not lose – its the only way, ”

    not so sure about that one to be honest but willing to take your word for it!

  • 53 Kurt // May 11, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    My team for tomorow

    Elliott
    Simpson-Taylor-Colo-Mbiwa
    Tiote-Anita
    Ben Arfa-Campbell-Goufran
    Cisse

    Campbell playing in a more “Beardsley” role behind Cisse

  • 54 tom68 // May 11, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    I just can’t understand how any sane fan still thinks Pardew should b given more time. He has almost ruined every club he has managed and he’s doing the same to us. We do deserve to watch good football and some people seem to have forgotten that.

  • 55 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    whats your team looking like for tomorrow Andy and how do you think we should be approaching the game

  • 56 Premiership Manager // May 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Have I missed the point. If we win tomorrow that gives us 41 points. If Arsenal beat us and Wigan win both games in hand it comes down to goal difference.

    With two games to go, (1 for Villa) anybody with less than 41 points, from 12th place down over could still go down depending on results.

  • 57 Sazzer // May 11, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Elliott
    Simmo Taylor Colo Mbiwa
    Cabaye Tiote
    Debuchy Ben-arfa Anita
    Cisse

  • 58 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    PM if we win and Wigan win both of theirs then Villa go down i think, since they are the ones who play wigan. Not 100%

  • 59 Papiss9 // May 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    PM

    Wigan meets Villa in the last match, therefore a win tomorrow means we’re safe

  • 60 The_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    lol .. Sparky55 I’m from Kuwait and studied in Newcastle for 5 years .. I went to the games when they were in the EPL and championship. I love supporting this team and the ups and downs that come with it. One the thing I noticed about Newcastle supporters. We don’t really know what we want. I still remember going to a game where Shola Ameobi was being booed before coming in the last 10 minutes then was cheered for scoring the winner!

  • 61 Newcastle Brown Alien // May 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    manager, yeah, villa are on 40 with 1 to go, if we win we get 41, and so the last game between villa and wigan is vital as not both can win and so only one of them could over take us

  • 62 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    elliot

    simpson taylor, colo Mbiwa

    marveaux, cabaye, tiote anita ben afra

    cisse

    anita and tiote sit and feed cabaye and the wide players

  • 63 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Premiership, because we will go above Villa by a point. Wigan and Villa are to play each other in the last game, so Villa will be below us if they lose, or Wigan will be below us if they lose. It is quite easy to be honest.

  • 64 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    i realy cant believe after all that has gone on this season . the sh’t football , the despicable results and performances the lies , the negative comments, the fact that he blames everybody, the kit man and the tea lady except himself, – the way he has single handed destroyed all the great work CH done before he was MISTAKENLY sacked , that some people still find a way to support him.
    the man will NEVER be any good as a manager as long as he has got a hole in his ozone ?

  • 65 tom68 // May 11, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Amen to that Stuart

  • 66 Sazzer // May 11, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    sparky55
    Not sure if Marv is fit for 90 min mate. And if he were I think he should play in front of Cabaye and Tiote and not as a winger.

  • 67 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    451 morphs into 433 and what you say will happen…it all depends whether we’re attacking or defending but imo 451 is the right base formation

  • 68 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    and if marv not fit for 90 why not start him and start on a positive note?

  • 69 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    just been watching MOTD- we have to get rafa, -if there is one thing certain we have to GET RAFA.

  • 70 geordie157 // May 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    I’ll go with this for tomorrow.

    Elliot
    Simpson, Taylor, Colo, Mbiwa
    Cabaye, Tiote, Anita
    Ben Arfa, Cisse, Gouffran

    Subs
    Harps, Debuchy, Santon, Perch, Jonas, Marveaux, Campbell

    Would even drop Jonas for Obertan but we all know he’ll prob play some part.

  • 71 Munster Mag // May 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    Again I’m amazed how tolerant some NUFC fans are. Pardew has never before shown the ability to be a top manager, except in one season with us, when he had two scalding hot strikers, and a hard working defence behind them. Now, goons like Andy believe that a manager who had dragged all confidence from the team, cant score from a corner, cant defend, cant score goals, cant hammer ANY TEAM, and runs with excuses ALL SEASON , is good enough for one of the best supported clubs in England. Are people like you just stupid, or too nice?????

  • 72 Sazzer // May 11, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Yeah 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 4-1-2-3 4-2-1-2-1 is fluid. So it depends. I like Marveux rather than Cabaye behind Cisse most of the time if he plays. That means Anita/Arfa as winger in 4-3-3 attack. If he doesn’t play I prefer in free role behind Cisse since he’s not 100 % fit.

  • 73 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Stuart with 2 games to go, as high as 12th could be relegated. If we finished 10th then there is no way that you could feasibly want yet another manager sacked.

    It just amazes me that not one bad word is said about Ashley or Llambias in these continuous Pardew out posts. It is always “Ashley will do the best for our club, he is going to get a proper good football manager, sign him some great players and Llambias will pay the fee for any player we obviously need”.

    You are living in a dreamland. 2 typical Ashley moves this year showed our ambition – handing Pardew an 8 year deal to mostly get a good fee if he moves on, but also so he can shoulder the responsibility for anything in the coming years, as in forcing him to play kids in the first half of the season and gambling on getting cut price contract players in January and hope they solve all our problems.

  • 74 yo-yo // May 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Rotonda

    One swallow doesn’t make a summer
    but does make a reasonable blow job

    And I wasn’t even thinkingt about Pardew there :(

    Very disappopinted with the public statements of AP. He has lost all his own self confidence here. He is not saying we are going there to win. This team has great character and we can do it, we will never give up – we owe it to the fans etc. etc., he has clearly lost his mojo and is a dead man walking. As long as the players ignore him and just go for it we might sneak through.

  • 75 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Munster he works for Ashley and has fickle fans like you – of course he tries to keep the peace. Do you just want a new manager every year, like keep re-signing Keegan who will blatantly come out with “we cant compete with a bench like Chelsea’s”?

    Oh and Munster, Pardew tells Cabaye to over and underhit the ball to hardly any physical players, thats why we dont score from corners – all Pardew? Are you emotionally unstable or just thick?

  • 76 tom68 // May 11, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Andy and pardew out asap

  • 77 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    MUNSTER – and hes not confident of taking his newcastle team – HIS TEAM- the team it has taken nearly 3 years to put together , to a relegated team , and getting a win, .-in a must win game . he makes my teeth itch , he really does .

  • 78 sparky55 // May 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    oh dear…fan and shit spring to mind

  • 79 Munster Mag // May 11, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Andy, no – I’m just an intelligent fan who applies reason, just like many fans. Can you do me the favour of pointing out how many games had you really excited as a fan this season. How many thrashings did we hand out ( I mean, two or three would be possible, surely ?? ) . We have an excellent dead ball merchant in Cabaye, but a terrible lack of invention and movement. I suppose this has nothing to do with Pardew, or his coaches. And who says I am fickle, because I am watching a team with plenty of dangerous players facing very possible relegation, and not happy. You really are a prize tool – take a bow for being the forum muppet tonight.

  • 80 Munster Mag // May 11, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Stuart…he’s a winner you know mate…..and the other classic …”that wasnt my team…my teams like to be on the front foot” …..I’m sure the WBA and Reading players remember that well, along with Liverpool and Sunderland.

  • 81 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Seems to be some debate to keep pardew or not. ( i feel we should get rid) the problem is if we keep him and next year starts like this season has been, sacking him mid season could cause all kind of problems. Feel like a new manager with all summer to get a new team ready is what we need. Move out some fringe players sign a few first teamers and a couple of decent squad players and we will have a crack at top 8

  • 82 Munster Mag // May 11, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Ulsetr, completely agree. Can we start some sort of posting on this . Just say Pardew – get rid or Pardew – Keep him. I’ll start…

  • 83 Munster Mag // May 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Pardew – Get rid.

    Can another poster give their quick opinion please?

  • 84 Marty-Toon // May 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Anita must be sick by not being n the team before half the other divots AP has chosen throughout the season.
    Hopefully for once he can get the team and tactics right in the same game.
    Nail biting time coming up.

  • 85 Ulster_Toon // May 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Munster we will soon see after the season when Ed puts up the poll on pardew! But for now need to try and get behind him and behind the team

  • 86 stuart no9 // May 11, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    ANDY – thats where you are wrong – i wanted pardew sacked after his first season . coz i knew ,like lots of people on here , he would get us relegated, if not last season then this one . are we wrong ? no. were we right ? yes .look at the table , that tells the truth, as for ashley – i have wanted him to sell the club for the last 4 years – hes fu”’ckin useless as well. the problem is , no one can sack him !

  • 87 Marty-Toon // May 11, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Pardew- on yer bike

  • 88 Munster Mag // May 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Ulster, if at the game I would be fully behind the team. No issues there mate – I have supported NUFC for about 38 years, and travelled all over England supporting them.

  • 89 AndyNUFC // May 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Stuart, thanks for taking the biggest tool nominated forum muppet crown from me.

    You wanted Pardew sacked after getting 5th.

    Munter, agree with that one?

  • 90 AndyNUFC // May 12, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    It is the sort of comments that make us get called delusional by other fans. Whinging on about where we “should” be. In a league where we can still finish below 10th, given the tightness between teams, I find it quite a fair and respectable position given our lack of preparation.

    Munter at one point Anita was taking corners, and it would be a different story if a Carroll or Nolan who know how to attack the ball in the air could score them, or even Ba, but Pardew was left with Shola and a reserve teenager to make up for him leaving. Get real man its about strengthening when you’re in a strong position, but you prefer the tried and failed quick fix, manager blame game.

    Pardew will have us top 6 again next year with some actual support in the summer for a change.

  • 91 Laurent Robert 32 // May 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    A football team is just that. A team made up of individuals who all pull together to form an efficient group with a common functional goal to achieve success on the pitch.

    If a team’s players are unorganised and unaware of their roles in creating chances and how to build attacks, then the players become dysfunctional and chaotic. This makes them make mistakes which therefore leads to low confidence and they look a lot worse than they actually are. This is where we’re at now.

    It all stems from poor coaching and negativity.

  • 92 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Andy – I didnt want him sacked at 5th – I thought he was very good. And I was wrong. No more abuse from me – I’ll stand you an internet pint ( of Broon ) if we get top 6 next season, assuming he is backed. I’ll bet Hughton and co would have liked 20 mill in january….

  • 93 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    AndyNUFC

    top 6 next season you must be thinking about the championship mate, tell me why you think we should keep Pard’s then since your basically on the same terms as him.

  • 94 toonluvva // May 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Quite simple really.

    Sack Llambias and Pardew.

    I’d also like a new owner who actually knows about football.

  • 95 AndyNUFC // May 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Funny as well our best form in the last 4 years was under Pardew. Ba banging in goals, as did Cisse – who he was slagged off for not playing to the side of Ba by fans because Ba is the better and we needed to pander to him and thought he would be happy playing with a mate. Nursed Ben Arfa back to great form, got Coloccini playing in the team of the year last season, but what was his reward in the summer? No douglas, no de jong, just 1 first team player.

  • 96 AndyNUFC // May 12, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Laurent and black and white, read my last post, compare last year with the current, and thats why a quick ‘fix’ sacking is not the answer.

    You are just assuming, like you assume because we have good players who nearly got 3rd/4th last year that we can just win every game, and that a new manager will just make everything bad from this season go back to way last was – funny that, if you dont think the same manager could do it.

  • 97 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    AndyNUFC

    sacking is not the answer “really”

    lets see now last season he had the same players as this season and both season he did 1 thing wrong compared to all managers out there and that is ( he played the wrong tactics no matter how fully fit Newcastle where)

    we have no wingers so why play a 4231 or 433?

    MA brings in quality signings in January and still he doesn’t know what to do with them.

    he’s got the lads to play hoofball even though there mentality is attacking so why play this?

    he sits on 1-0 leads at first half at HOME even though we are considered favorites against lesser, weaker teams so why do this?

    he picks the first 11 making sure he puts his bum boys on ahead of in form players ( shola, jonas) what manager would do this?

    IMO he ain’t a manager at all no other manager would do this to his team.

  • 98 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    “It’ll be uncomfortable for us both, because we’ve both underachieved. Him as an owner and me as a manager.

    ….Interesting comment from Pardew, whic he later tries to dumb down, in an article by Martin Hardy.

  • 99 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    …I think Pardew knows he’s gone tbh.

  • 100 LeToonARMY // May 12, 2013 at 5:41 AM

    I say we play 4-3-1-2. Ben Arfa just behind the strikers with Tiote in Central Midfield with Taylor and Collo at the back
    ______________ELIOT_____________
    __Simpson__Taylor___Collo___Yanga__
    ___CABAYE__TIOTE__GUTTIREZ____
    ___________BEN ARFA____________
    ________Cisse____Gouffran_________

    Subs
    Marveux
    Santon
    Debuchy
    Perch
    Anita
    Campbell

  • 101 mickg108 // May 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Keith in France @ 9..you obviolousy weren’t @ the Chelsea match ?,,But one game this season is a poor return,for the Squad we have,,Pards has been paying for draws,,when we couldn’t defend a cast iron alibi.




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