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Pardew – Since I’ve Been Here, It’s Been Milk And Honey

10:16 am, Sunday, May 12th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 236 Comments

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has become very philosophical of late, with the results in the last seven games being little short of pathetic, but he has a chance to save Newcastle this afternoon, if we can beat QPR in London.

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Alan Pardew – it’s been milk and honey most of the time

With Wigan losing against Swansea last Tuesday night, it has given Newcastle a massive window of opportunity to save ourselves – but whether we are good enough to take that chance by winning at QPR today, we’ll have to wait and see.

The Newcastle side and manager have gone through lots of adversity this season – as have the Newcastle fans – who can’t quite believe what’s happening right now, and the fact we could be playing in the English second division next season is more than alarming – it’s simply unimaginable.

This is what Alan Pardew had to say to the press today:

“The players have had to work hard and force games and we have to do that at QPR. Get ourselves a win. Get ourselves a result any shape it comes in and I think against Arsenal, a home game, I think we have got a chance of a result.”

“We’ll definitely be going to QPR to win. It’s a strange scenario, the whole bottom of the league. You can talk about Southampton and Sunderland, Norwich have got a massive game as well.”

“It’s a very remarkable way it is going to end but, for us, we don’t want it to go to the last game. That’s why we want to win.” “You learn in adversity as much as you learn in victory, sometimes more, and this has been a year when we’ve had adversity at crucial times.”

“We had a terrible run before Christmas, terrible injury problems and this back end of the season, a level of criticism that the players probably weren’t used to.” “Since I’ve been here, it’s been milk and honey a little bit for most of them, so I think we’ve all been a little bit shocked by that.”

We’re not too sure about things being like milk and honey for most of the time since Alan arrived.

It’s true that a measure of a man (or a woman) is how they react in times of adversity, and not when everything is going well.

And with all the adversity Newcastle have suffered this season, we should be able to tell in the summer who should stay and who should go – and that includes both players and coaches – always assuming Mike Ashley wants to keep the club.

Alan Pardew can make things a lot easier for everybody concerned with Newcastle today, by getting all 3 points today and making us safe – and it would be a massive relief to Newcastle fans.

A defeat would be another complete disaster and it’s hard to even imagine that could happen today.

A win would make things a heck of a lot rosier in the Newcastle garden and we could even then look forward to the future.

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236 responses so far ↓

  • 1 yo-yo // May 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    All you jokers listing new managers might want to take a look at this list.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22450901

    The only name in the frasme who has a significantly better record than AP is Rafa.

  • 2 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    Last para add terrible manager

  • 3 colwell // May 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Spotlight kid

    We would be left with Elliot,willo,perch,bigi,shola,Oba,gosling maybe Jonas,gouffran. Not too good of a team with youth included and not much moneys worth either. By no means guaranteed promotion.

  • 4 geordie157 // May 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Indian, Pardew wouldn’t have won the SPL with Celtic if he was manager this season. Think that’s pushing it, even Kinnear could win that league.

    On the subject of Scotland, i’d chance Callum Paterson from Hearts, wouldn’t cost hardly anything plus he can play rb, rw and st, loan him out, he’s a bit raw but as proved vs Liverpool he could be one for the future. Get him in and loan him out to develop further.

  • 5 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Yo-yo

    How many have had the resources that pardew has had

  • 6 colwell // May 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    And most certainly no where near 75m pound worth of players

  • 7 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Rafa is the manager to take us forward i wouldn’t be surprise if got us in the top 4 in 2 seasons time

  • 8 geordie157 // May 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Colwell, I was thinking roughly what our team would be if we went down.

    Elliot
    Tav, Taylor, Wilo, Haidara
    Obertan, Gosling, Bigi, Fergs
    Campbell, Austin

    Someone needs to take a chance on Austin at some point, just not sure he’s who could step up. Although Le Fondre is a similar player and he’s done alright.

  • 9 yo-yo // May 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Indian

    http://transferleague.co.uk

    Check for yourself

  • 10 yo-yo // May 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Geordie

    I’d definitely risk Charlie boy – he’s scored at eveyr level he’s played and stepped up every time

  • 11 geordie157 // May 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    wonder what odds I could get on Rafa being our new manager and Ba returning.

    Hard to see Ba playing much next season, with Lukaku returning and possibly a Falcao or Lewandowski coming in.

  • 12 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    if we did relegated i think we should bring in Hughes from Derby saying that if we stay up we should still bring him in

  • 13 colwell // May 12, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Geordie157

    Yeah that’s pretty much the team I imagined well minus Austin but a good shout certainly knows where the net is.

    It’s no where near as good as the team that got us back up before though. Although I’d love too see Campbell rip the championship hopefully not with us mind, on loan.

  • 14 Toon Tang // May 12, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    reading between the lines, pardews saying he wants the age of consent lowering

  • 15 solano // May 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    We’ve been in the land of ‘milk and honey’ ??!! Really? Smokey Robinson should be scratching his balding afro after writing “a taste of honey’s worse than none at all”.
    What planet is our increasingly bizarre and desperate manager on? He didn’t even mention ‘jam tomorrow’.
    Deadman walking…..

  • 16 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Wonder if the team selected looks like its been picked to win the game, If Jonas, and Tiote start (which they will) we will be beat, they are struggling big time and have been all season. Would love to see Pardew just go for it with some attacking players.

    We will get beat anyways.

  • 17 gaz 44 // May 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Just been in bookies again n same lad I saw put 350 on rudi Garcia put another 100 on the same bet so I asked him if he knew something his reply was simply watch this space. So I’ve put 25 on lol to my surprise only 20/1 thought odds would b much further out

  • 18 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Rotonda and Yorky

    That’s one way to project your imaginations onto me. But Rotonda does that in almost every post he makes, so it’s getting old.

    I didn’t defend Pardew at all – but there’s plenty to moan about without having to make things up.

    Why not complain about things that we can actually see, rather than inventing stories about players laughing at him behind his back?

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    I’d like to make a little correction to solanos post on the previous thread where he he says if we don’t beat QPR we deserve to go down,I mostly agree with that except that it is not us that deserve to go down as loyal fans but Mike Ashley and his ridiculous decision making certainly deserve to take a hit if we manage to go down.

  • 20 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    i think MA needs to start bringing in young blood next season foreign or not.

    Ince, Hughes, Austin, Allion, Verratti, Sinclair, Fierro,

  • 21 geordie157 // May 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    here’s one for you bloggers over the past 20 yrs rank our managers best to worst. i’m not including Shearer, as I feel its a bit harsh to judge him on that short spell.

    In no particular order.

    Keegan
    Dalglish
    Gullit
    Robson
    Souness
    Roeder
    Kinnear
    Allardyce
    Hughton
    Pardew

  • 22 donkey // May 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    SOLANO ashly has has already been down that road of trying to pls the fans with KK and AS and look how that turned out hes backed pardew in the window with 5 new players and yes mayby he should have backed him in the summer but they had faith in the youth comming thru bringing in pardew was a mistake and giving him an 8 year contract was an even bigger one but im sure MA will sort out new manerger in the summer and i think he would be the first to admit hes learning every day to become a better footbal chairman

  • 23 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    any other youngsters lads?

  • 24 gaz 44 // May 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    It goes Robson then Keegan then the rest r just awful

  • 25 solano // May 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    JFA…point taken but maybe fans- including your good self- should share some blame as you implicitly support this rotten regime by giving money upfront for a continuation of this unacceptable situation?

  • 26 geordie157 // May 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Black and White, would love us to sign Will Hughes, fantastic prospect. Loan him back to Derby for a season to sweeten the deal.

    and agree we need some young talent, maybe add Redmond to that list, Harry Maguire. Not as young but maybe worth a look is Bolasie at Palace.

  • 27 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    minxpie

    i love it , just love it ( KK quote) when you come on and try and defend your lover boy AP, you sound as deluded as him , and infact your digging a hole bigger than him

    you say he has been in football his whole life, i guess as fans we havent, i think you will find most fans know quite a lot about football, infact just because he has been involved dosnt automaticly make him a great manager,
    i could list 50 players that have failed as managers ,
    just because they have been lucky enough to play the game dont mean that others of us couldnt have played as pro players,

    some fans are just guys who love to go to the match, never played at any level, only watched from the side lines, this does not make them any less knowladgable of the game ,

    what im trying to say is you have put us that have not been involved in the game at pro level as stupid know nothings so should not have any opinions, where does this leave jurno’s like ed?

    there are things i dont know , and i hold my had up to that, i know nothing about contracts and that side of his job

    but i know about playing football, i know that you pick a team to suit your players you have , but your saying we dont have any, id say while he is not the finshed player, fergy is our best winger we have , and for that matter santon looks a better winger than LB and can play both wings,
    i know going all out attack v man u and ars was great but foolish, he could have done that v reading villa west ham and many other team would have been more affective and got us more points, but v these teams he chose to play 3 DMC and protect a nil nil from kick off.

    im not having a go at AP the man, just as a manager, he is not good enough at this level

    george burly won manager of the year with ipswitch, finished 5th, relegated the season after, where is he now? im sure a guy who won a premiership manager of the year title would never be out of work in the prem?

    please wake up and see him for what he is, i mean come on bigi as a right winger v sunderland ,

  • 28 solano // May 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Donkey…you really live up to your pen name. Here, have a sugarlump….jam tomorrow!

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    solano ,
    I hear you.

  • 30 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Sadly i think Ashley sees the financial success of the club as being far far far more important than what heppens on the pitch. If we stay up and perform regularly as a poor to mediocre side , with lots of french player profits he’ll be happy as larry. Personally I think we can aspire to better.

  • 31 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    geordie157

    Redmond, Maguire mate i completely forgot those players cheers mate.

  • 32 donkey // May 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    1 robson 2 keegan 3 hughton 4 alladyce the only ones worth listing the rest i would rather just forget lol

  • 33 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    for me
    its SBR
    KK
    CH
    RH
    GR
    SA
    GS
    KD
    JK
    AP

    i put JK above AP simply because i think AP has had a younger better squad

  • 34 Offkey // May 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    geordie157 – Dalglish at 2 – he destroyed a great team and created a below average side, hate him.

  • 35 solano // May 12, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    JFA…good! Look, Listen and Act upon it! Self respect, if nowt else.

  • 36 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    catchy in norway @33

    mate you beat me to it ;)

  • 37 Grantosuk // May 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    @Geordie157

    Ba’s career only started when he moved his Chelsea (his words). We wouldn’t want to end it so quickly would we? ;)

  • 38 Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter) // May 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Before Llambias came in

    Ashley spent money and did bring in a MANAGER, who actually qualifies as a manager

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    donkey,
    mayby we needed to strengthen ……
    a betterer manerger might have told Ashley in no uncertain terms that the youngsters weren’t ready,but then again a betterer maneger might not have taken an eight year contract that stipulated the weekly spouting of company propaganda.

  • 40 magpie6699 // May 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    catchy – what a surprise.
    In all honesty I cannot put a league table of managers without making some allowance for last season’s PL and this season’s Europe: Didn’t care for Dalglish but think we managed a Cup Final and a 2nd in the league if I’m not mistaken?
    So it goes:
    SBR
    KK
    CH
    KD
    AP
    GR
    SA
    GS
    JFK – a joke!

  • 41 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Black and White with an army lol

    just an opinion

    some might like AP top,, im thinking minxpie for one

  • 42 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    catchy in norway

    lol

  • 43 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    magpie6699

    not gona check facts,,

    but i think it was his first season, when we finished 2nd with KK team

  • 44 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    KD’s team finished 12th or 13th

  • 45 stuart no9 // May 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    solano – have you got a cunning plan if pards is not sacked ? coz we’ll need one !

  • 46 solano // May 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Donkey:post 30 (previous thread)
    MA will sort out new manerger in the summer and i think he would be the first to admit hes learning every day to become a better footbal chairman
    Punctuation and spelling aside, are you taking the Alger?
    People say he never makes the same mistake twice, he just invents new one’s. I disagree, hence on the brink of relegation again by not investing at right time.
    “Derek Llambias knows nothing about football. Mike Ashley knows even less than him.” Discuss.

  • 47 donkey // May 12, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Jail for Ashley im sorry but your just going to have to live with my Dyslexia

  • 48 gaz 44 // May 12, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Someone was on here the other day when I mentioned rudi Garcia n the lad putting a lot of money on him saying more likely to be b rene giroud. Just asked for his odds 33/1 n I got 20/1 for Garcia bookies aren’t usually wrong. Benitez is favourite thou

  • 49 Offkey // May 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Hey, am I recalling a different Dalglish here. One that sold all our star players and bought tat, fair play he had a couple of signings that were long servants to the club but the exodus of players he stated was the beginning of our decline and that continued until SBR came in (who rescued us temporarily until another poor decision by the board meant we got lost him and got……Soueness).

  • 50 Slatymag // May 12, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Pardew – “We don’t know what division we’re in”!!!!!!!?

    More defeatist talk from our so called leader. I’m nervous enough as it is, this has just put the icing on the **** cake we already seem to be being served.

    I hope, as some suggest, that his team talks are a bit more inspiring than the dirge he presents to the press. Does he not realise that NUFC fans also read the press?

  • 51 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    donkey,
    I apologize for criticising your spelling mistakes but still think you should be thrown off of a Spanish church roof for your absurd defence of Mike Ashleys policies and our fourth relegation battle in his six years ownership.

  • 52 solano // May 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Stuart…the invite for the open top bus parade stays open so long as you get suited up and bring the brief case.
    Patsy is dead in the water, i think, not just with the fans but with his relationship with Delboy and Mike. He has outlasted his usefulness to them.
    I think they could make a move for Di Matteo but will prob go with an even cheaper option – possibly even foreign. Unfortunately, in the big scheme of things, it makes little difference because of the whole philosophy of the owner. He has to go, as it’s no use chopping off your gangrenous toe when the infection is halfway up your leg!

  • 53 Jamiemac // May 12, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    So nervous for today! Had a dream last night that we won 1-0 courtesy of a Cisse late winner, Ben arfa assist!

  • 54 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    would love to win today with any other manager it would be a massive scoreline but Pardass though tells a whole different story

  • 55 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    iv’e got this gut feeling today that Tiote or MYM are gonna score today

  • 56 Lee Dodd // May 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Alan Pardew Wont get The Bullet This Summer. All You Nerds Need to look back at Man united when Ferguson Joined Them and the Man U Fans were shouting to sack him. Yes Were Crap this season Down to No Signings in the Summer and not stront enough for the Europa Campaign . we need a few signings and were a top 6 side again.. Last Season Top 6 and pardew is the Man for us . This season . Hang Him Hang Him !!!!! Could Shearer Do Better ??? No .. The Fat waiter ??? No … Beleive me we will get someone farr worse as Ashley has his old school mates from london !!!!! WIll Ashley Get a Top Manager and Pay top Money if not In Europe for a Manager ??? Now Lets Get Real Here !!!!!

  • 57 mickg108 // May 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    K.D the only Manager ( Cough & Spit ),to go to Wembly & play for a draw,,playing the Pished One ( Pistone ) at Right Back..Demolished a good team quicker than Pardew has with his Negative Attitude.

  • 58 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Lee Dodd

    please tell me again, why lack of signings makes you play poor football,,
    i missed that

  • 59 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Lee Dodd

    with the money MA is racking in through his business why not bring in a top manager

  • 60 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Lee Dodd

    and also mate with the SAF case this was over 20+ years ago football has changed then

  • 61 Offkey // May 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    mickg108 – I thought it was only me who could remember a strike force of Ferdinand and Tino being replaced by the aged John Barnes and Ian Rush – clearly those rating Keny so highly did not see that team.

  • 62 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    he got troops in jan no improvement shit tactics

  • 63 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Offkey

    i remember him selling ginola for 2.5 mil and signing hamilton in the same week,,

    the only thing i think was good under KD was the 3-2 win over barca,,

    tino tino tino

  • 64 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    for all those Pardew lovers out there seek some sense will you’s.

    MA a successful business man would he hire very good and hard working staff, yes, and would he hire the cheapest and poorest manager to boss his employees about, i wouldn’t so.

    he would bring in the best manager or boss to handle his employees to keep his business successful.

  • 65 tom68 // May 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Does anyone think Ashley might be so mad that Whelan has won a trophy that we might see a massive change in the summer.
    He hates Whelan with a passion so hopefully we will have a full manager and coaches clear out and a big outlay on major upgrades of a lot of personnel and new players.

  • 66 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    maybe Paredew has a cunning plan…maybe he’s thinking that if we survive this year he’s got no chance of being manager next year because there will be a massive player revolt / exodus if they know Pardew is still to be in charge and Ashley deep down knows he’d have to go…BUT…maybe Pardews thinking is if we he takes us down he’s got half a chance of keeping his job because who’d want to manage newcastle in the championship with a squad devoid of any talent after all the jonny foreigners have up and left! Maybe he’s not half as stupid as he looks!

  • 67 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    tom68

    yes mate i think MA now wants to bring silverware to Newcastle and hit champions league and make us 1 of the biggest teams in Europe

  • 68 geordie157 // May 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    offkey, Dalglish is definitely not no.2 in my list. that was in a random order.

    Mine would be

    Robson
    Keegan
    Hughton

    none of the others I’ve rated, Dalglish would be below Souness, Gullit and Allardyce though.

  • 69 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    ha he does not care he is only in it for the money

  • 70 Lee Dodd // May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    What I ment was We relied on the likes of sammy amiobi and shane ferguson etc We got to many Injurys to to many key players and that shot us in the foot . we needed sissoko etc in the summer not in the winter . If we had hbs cabaye both taylors fit colloccini fit we would have done well … Ashley should have opened the fat wallet farr sooner… Yes Ashley is Making the Money But Wont Spend Daft Money on a manager. Its all Advertising for Sports Direct … Would He Get Mourinio or Gus Hiddink etc No Chance !!!! Would They want to sign for him … No Chance…. he is a back Stabber !!!! Look at the Keegan and Wise Thing !!! What we need is a close to this season hopefully today and move on the August 14th 2013..

  • 71 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    tom68…If Ashley was a caring devoted owner of the club who’d put his heart and soul into it then yes…but Ashley is anything but that.

    but on the other hand I’d love to think you were right!

  • 72 jonobbad // May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    And for all you so called fans who think we will get beat today.
    You are on the same level as pardew and i wouldnt be sad to see you guys move on either.(to other clubs to support)
    If we cant beat bottom of the league when our safety solely depends on it then they all need selling/sacking.
    We will have a pretty much full strength squad so no excuses

  • 73 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    sparky55

    don’t give AP thoughts he could be reading your post mate lol

  • 74 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    i find it a little strange to think that MA would want a guy in charge that is cappable of taking a team that finished 5th to on the brink of going out of the PL with a better team,, regardless of who he didnt bring in in the summer, he did strengthn it , and was one of the highest spenders in jan,

    he is in this for money pure and simple, but buying top players as he has, and letting pardew train the football out of them reducing there value, is something he will take note of,,

    just last year figure where banded about by many on here, 20 mil for cabaye, 20 mil for tiote, yet now youd be lucky to get 5 mill for each of them, thats 30 mill lost in one season, could you sell santon for 5 mill now, ? dont think so,, that would be a loss

    thats the side MA will be looking at

  • 75 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    B&W…you are presuming of course he can read!

  • 76 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    no excuses eh and if we do get beat or scrape a draw what then

  • 77 jonobbad // May 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    We watch the matches and can see pardews limitations.
    If we can see this then so can ashley.
    If ashley has any ambition we will see this summer if he sacks pardew.
    I think he will.

  • 78 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    we will beat arsenal

  • 79 Douglas // May 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Only one thing is Certain. NUFC never make anything easy.

  • 80 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    catchy in norway

    very true mate, in MA eyes and mind he’s always thinking about buying cheap, training them to be stars and sell them for at least 4x there value

  • 81 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Lee Dodd

    look at the team v man u away and explain why he went all out against them with our second string and looked good, yet went defensive v reading at home with a good first team team

    bet you carnt without looking stupid

  • 82 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    pardew and his crew are not producing stars quite the opposite

  • 83 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    sparky55

    maybe he has a private tutor to read things for him ;) lol

  • 84 JAMSHA // May 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    if we draw n wigan loose…. we are safe

  • 85 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    bw lol,
    are you being sarcastic.

  • 86 Offkey // May 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Catchy – I get filled with hatred when I think of Kenny. Unfortunately, I feel the same may be said for Pardew in the long run……….hopefully we can get the win today and that starts a change at the club.

  • 87 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    good point Catchy…but even Ashleys good business brain was all in a quandary just before xmas…he flipped a coin and decided to spend circa 28 million in a gamble to keep us up so not to lose out on the 60 million sky bonanza next year…that was the only reason he made the investment…he must have thought to himself if I spend that kind of money to bring in 5 new players we’re bound to stay up even with pardew in charge…put he just didn’t realise how poor pardew actually was and his school boy error was not to sack Pardew after all the January transfer deals were done so a new manager could save us.

    Ashley has always pratted on about player values and how he won’t overpay but he did overpay in January because he was taking a desperate gamble….that’s how bad things were and still are even after that significant investment

    And Catchy you’re absolutely right…Everyones value in the team has go down except perhaps for Bigi and marveaux…and a round of applause for Pardew for being so instrumental in that huge paper loss…god help us all!

  • 88 jonobbad // May 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    John tudor

    Then one of two things:
    1. We sell/sack all the players and buy new ones
    Or
    2. We sack pardew

    Really only one option

  • 89 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    lee d

    team v villa at home

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/267519/ratings

  • 90 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    reading have took 4 points of us this season

  • 91 Offkey // May 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Geordie157 – Than you for not insulting me, re-reading your post it says

    ‘In no particular order.’

    I just get so angry about what Kenny did.

  • 92 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Lee Dodd ,
    I don’t think people yet realise what Mike Ashleys aims are when they talk of expensive managers and CL football and all this nonsense about sports shops in Calais selling more socks if we’re in Europe.

  • 93 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    B&W…I can just imagine she’ll be blonde, petite and only just about legal!

  • 94 Bambams // May 12, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    I always believed in the Liverpool conspiracy theory….. Both Dagleish and Souness ruined very good teams they inherited. Could not allow Newcastle to progress into a club Liverpool would be unable to compete with.

    I actually gave up my season ticket during the Souness era, after 28 consecutive years (season ticket) when the final insult came from Souness that the mighty Boumsong who he signed for £8m (Souness also share holder in Rangers) was “the best CB in the league but we cant find the correct size football boots for him ” ….. That was it !

    Dont even think Pards has used that one !

  • 95 toon kk // May 12, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Most are wanting Pards out, which I think its time for a change but which top manager is going to come when they have very little or no say on players coming in and an owner with limited ambition. Thats where Pards fits in.

  • 96 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    sparky ,
    I don’t really get that post,where was the 28M and who did we overlay on.
    Are you an electrician ?

  • 97 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    sparky

    60 mill was worth the 28,

    but i think his main job was to develope players and increase value of them,

    ashley is not here to win thngs, if we do great,, he is here to make money every which way he can,

    finish as high as pos without spending fortunes, stay in the top half of the table min
    sell a player or 2 every season at 3 or 4 time what we paid for him,,

    ashley would be happy with this,, a feeder club to the supper rich clubs

  • 98 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    catchy,
    You have defended Mike Ashley on many occasions yet you have pretty much outlined his ambitions,so are you happy with that ?

  • 99 Billythefish // May 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Would love Ashley to show real ambition in the summer, step 1 show Pardew the door, step 2 appoint a successful manager, Step 3 spend some money. Anything more ie sack lamearse. Would be a major bonus.
    Please let us have some excitement over the summer, with something to look forward to. I would hate to see another season void of any real football with Pards in charge.

  • 100 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    JFA LOL…Read a post on here just in the last week that said the actual value of the aquisitions was 28 million not the figure originally reported…don’t know if it’s true but if ED says it’s true then I believe him.

    One that basis 28 million divided by 5 players = over 5.5 million each and will gouffy worth 1 million then you’re actually paying nearly 7 million for the rest…so yes I think he overpaid cos he was desperate to stay up for next years SKY cash.

    PS…I’m actually a plumber and yes i’m shit at maths but me hearts in the reet place!

  • 101 BandB // May 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    The owner only has three options if he himself hasn’t had enough.
    Keep the manager regardless. Change manager if we go down. AND change the manager only if we stay up. He can either bring in a manager to suit the players, hoping to convince them to give it another year, or bring in players to suit the manager, which Pardew has already made plain is what he will be requesting.
    To those players who have said they want to stay at Newcastle, winning today is your best chance. Today, tactics or not, you can bust a gut to get forward and back, and look as if you care. Which all of US do. HWTL.

  • 102 bollance // May 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Looking forward to the game.

    Still think the manager will be replaced but it could a step backwards if we don’t get the right manager in.

    The players too need to go as they have not been good enough. Some have big reputations so cashing in should be the right move for the club.

    Pards has a good relationship with G Carr which could save him.

    New manager – only if we can get the right man.
    Sell players – this season has proven they are not good enough.
    New players – Players with more fight who will give it week in week out.

  • 103 stuart no9 // May 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    solano agree – why have the milk when you can have the honey? or – you can have the milk and the honey , but not all the time ! Too much of a good thing is bad for you ! ‘alan pardew sunday 12 th may 2013.”

  • 104 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    lads this is off a Chelsea supporter

    “Rafa Benitez could transform Newcastle into a regular European places contender. You lot have a good squad. Keeping the core and adding to it, coupled with a manager like Rafa and you lot will mean business – A Chelsea supporter”

    it just shows that other club supporters think Rafa would turn the toon around

  • 105 bollance // May 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    BandB

    It is up to Llambias to bring in the players. Pards is part of the commity with G Carr bringing the names to the table.

    Pards is a cog in this process. It has been stated on here by Jayphoto (top poster) that Pards has the wrong players for the system he plays.

    That makes you think and realise Pards has a small cog in this process. Surely G Carr is more important to the club than Pards? He got the 8 year deal first too.

    We need the manager to suit G Carr? Pards has a good working relationship it would seem but they do not complement each other.

    Continental manager in to suit a continental recruitment system?

  • 106 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    i think you have me totally wrong

    i have slated MA many times, for things like appointing DL no clue about the footballing world

    i applaud MA for his business model he is trying to implement,

    as i would be quite happy being a top 6 team playing good football beating some of the big teams, getting into europe most seasons

    we are the 2oth richest club in the world, so top six in the PL should be what we are aiming for

    you want MA out, fair enough, carnt knock what you want, you have your reasons, but i think you would be happy with what i want if we were chalengin for things

    for me, MA looks more a fool because his 2 mouth peices dont have a brain,, where you wanting MA out when chris mort was here ,, no i dont think so,,

    MA will look like the smartest guy in the world, if he had the right ppl implementing his wishes

  • 107 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 12, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Read though the post of today while junior is playing and I have to agree with BandB – very good post by the way!

    …I have been thinking the same lately; and eventhough I usually don’t agree with J4A about his disbelieve or hatred towards MA he does have a point in some of his allegations towards the owner.

    If he wants Pardew incharge then let him have the players he wants instead of buying the players Carr recommends who clearly fit into a more continental style of play.

    Pardew is all about English football (the main problem here is that up until now Pardew didn’t know that himself eventhough we have been trying to tell him that for 2 years)

  • 108 bollance // May 12, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Rafa would be dreamland but would he come?

    It has been stated on here that Rafa works best when he has a minimal input in the player recruitment process.

    He has vast Prem and European experience.

    Finally he is a draw for players. Player will come to play under him, guaranteed, which is half the battle.

  • 109 Black and White with an army lol // May 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    this is off a Man u fan

    “Newcastle with the right Manager with there quality squad could be battling with us like in days of your Kegan, i think Rafa or the other French Managers would be able to achieve this and become a top club that you’s have the potential to do – Manufan”

  • 110 stuart no9 // May 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    lee dodd @ 56—- have you been out all night mate ?

  • 111 stuart no9 // May 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    black and white @ 104 AND they know pardew is sh’t !

  • 112 BandB // May 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Bollance,

    A couple of days ago I wrote a spoof of a Pardew end of season appraisal. Within 12 hours, he had given an interview to The Independent which was almost identical. I was gobsmacked.
    Pardew wants a bigger say in recruitment. Its difficult to see how this can happen without a major change in transfer policy. To side with Pardew, Ashley has to implicitly rebuke Llambias and Carr, and himself. There seems to be a fault-line opening up. Today, we have a critical game. So today, I just support.

  • 113 toonaids // May 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    you lot talk about the same pap too much, does anyone on here actually do anything that makes a difference. where was that douche with the ‘cockney mafia out’ banner, that was a crease but least he had some cahones, either way pardew is out come the end of the season, i have too have heard rudi garcia is tipped to be in the running for our manager.
    , if we dont win we are absolute mugs

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Catchy,
    I like many thousands like me was over the moon to have our club purchased by a seemingly quiet but slightly eccentric billionaire but I realised after the way he duped KK into signing on and then tried to demonise him in the public eye that we had a truly rotten egg in charge of our destiny.

  • 115 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Band B,
    Can you repost your spoof interview.

  • 116 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    The only positive to come out of this season (based on us staying up of course) is the strength of our squad.

    This I believe will help us significantly when looking for a good manager because any manager worth his salt would love a crack at our squad. Even if Ashley said for example “ok RAFA…jobs yours but there’s no transfer budget for a year til you get these players playing properly again”…I think RAFA and others would take it because it’s a damn good squad.

    So gone are the days of the newcastle managers job being a poison chalice…i really do think there are some very good managers who would love a crack at the toon job now.

    just my opinion!

  • 117 toonaids // May 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    and personally i would much prefer a glass of milk to a pot of honey

    Ed would it be possible to have a vote or poll on those who would prefer milk, honey or both

    Thanks Aids

  • 118 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    sparky

    Sure there are, but will our owner hire them?

    I see Curbishley, Maclaren or Hughes in charge come June.

  • 119 cyprus // May 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Black and White,
    most chelsea fans can’t stand rafa

  • 120 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Sparky,
    Pardew is reportedly on 450K a year and Mourinho is going to be offered 12M to manage Chelsea, going on these figures I would estimate Benitez could command a salary of around 4/5M per year,don’t you think from our experiences of Mike Ashleys business model that a sal ary like that is way out of our league.

  • 121 Greebol1892 // May 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Reading at home was an utter disgrace but do you recall Reading away? We were also shocking and never looked like scoring. Only managed to salvage a draw cos we had Ba – 1 brilliant goal and 1 scored with his hand!

  • 122 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Come on Ashley your quite happy to take the paying publics money,so give them some return on it a decent manager for starters

  • 123 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    TDS…it’s a valid point but even any of those three are a very small step in the right direction over Pardew.

    Can’t believe I’ve just said that because it’s so sad but true.

    Sat in the corner now with one eye shut waiting for the volley of abuse about to come to my way!

  • 124 cyprus // May 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Bookies:
    “Newcastle are without a goal in their last 262 minutes of play, QPR being on a run of 365 goalless minutes. Not likely to be a classic and a 0-0 draw may not be far out of the picture. “

  • 125 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Lee Dodd, why do idiots like you mention Pardew and Fergie in the same sentence? Fergie was an up and coming broilliant manager – he beat Real Madrid at Aberdeen ffs!!! He broke up the Celtic Rangers domination. Yes tools like you want continuity for the sake if continuity. In that case, were Sunderland right to sack Keane – yes!! THERE IS NO WAY we will be a top 6 team underPardew….no way.

  • 126 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Grebol stop. You are giving me flashbacks and they aint nice…

  • 127 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    JFA…hate it when you go sensible on me…I can dream can’t I…surely some of the foreign managers being muted aren’t on those sort of salaries are they????…meebees Ashley wud pay Garcia 2 million to sort us out?

  • 128 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Munster,
    You are becoming increasingly more angry each day.

  • 129 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Sparky @116 – I think you make a very god point about the quality of the squad being a reason why a new manager may be attracted to coming to SJP. I’m sure the likes of Benitez would think he could mould the players who are already here into a decent team or the beginings of a decent team. With all the household names/internationals here already the challenge would surely be that much easier than starting off with a team of unknown players/lesser quality players.
    Just need a win today and then sack Percy after the Arsenal game. Percy has probably tried his best -but he has demonstrated he is just not up to the job. He will never change his ways and his arrogance will always prevail.
    PERCY…………………..out!

  • 130 daztoon-anti christ is that the time // May 12, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Any chance we can take Ashley to trading standards because he is selling us short every week

  • 131 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    well find a decent manager who is loyal forward thinking and inexpnsive

  • 132 tom68 // May 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    I’m sure Torq or someone posted about french tax going up to 75% or something like that. I think a manager like Garcia could easily be persuaded with a sensible annual salary and a decent transfer budget.
    We already have a squad I think he could work wonders with.

  • 133 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Mistertuff,
    If I was offered a small salary to try and fix a job lot of expensive lights that weren’t quite working properly or a huge salary to maintain some really expensive lights that worked just fine, I might for go the challenge and take the big money.

  • 134 niafron // May 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Bonjour messieurs.

    AAAARRRREEEE YYYYYOOOOUUUU RRRREEEEAAAADDDDYYYY FFFFOOORRRRR
    RRRRRRUUUUUMMMBBBBLLLLEEEE!!!!!!

    Ok, it’s a bit much, but afterall, we play our season today.

  • 135 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Unfortunately the next manager might have to be a yes man aswell. But at least we might get a marriage between the purchasing side and the playing side. Instead now we have Pards publicly flirting with Carroll , but being given guys to work with like Anita.

  • 136 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    sparky

    I agree, but if we sacked Pardew and replaced him with someone like that the moral of the fans and players would surely sink to an all new low!

  • 137 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    next manger p ince owes ashley a fortune

  • 138 spitfire_ // May 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Okay… if Llamearse get the sack who should be hired?

  • 139 hatemorloveit // May 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    CABAYE WILL LEAVE

    BEN ARFA WILL LEAVE

    TIM KRUL WILL LEAVE

    UNLESS WE SACK PARDEW

  • 140 LeToonARMY // May 12, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Today we should play 4-3-1-2 with Ben Arfa as player maker
    _________________ELIOT________________
    __SIMPSON___TAYLOR___COLLO___YANGA_
    ____CABAYE_____TIOTE____GUTTIREZ___
    _______________BEN ARFA______________
    __________CISSE_____GOUFFRAN________

    SUBS
    SANTON
    DEBUCHY
    PERCH
    ANITA
    MARVEUX
    CAMPBELL

  • 141 croftus5678 // May 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    i really dont care how we win today weather it be luck/played well/crowd booing the oposition one things for sure we need every fan to cheer there loudest today and swallow our pride just for this one game untill we are safe then we can look at the future but atm untill we win this we could very realistically have a championship team !
    this game counts we need every player/manager and fan to believe !

  • 142 Novocastrian66 // May 12, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Well this is our cup final. Win and we stay up. Lose and we’re down.
    I remember going to the Arsenal cup final and Daglish setting up a containing formation and we know what happened. It’s time to be brave, to be positive, to be indefatigable. It’s time to deliver.

  • 143 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Jail – afternnoon. Whilst I’m not exactly up to date about prospective manager availability, never mind in the UK but across Europe -there must be some quality people somewhere (who will or should be known to those in the football world) who could do a great job at SJP.
    We hear regularly that the managers job at SJP is the poisoned chalice of the football world -but there is no doubt there would be more managers would want to come here rather than not come.
    Somebody who could “awake the sleeping giant” would become an eternal hero.
    Unfortunately all this wishful thinking depends upon the whim of El Gourdo -will he sack Percy and will the replacement be high quality.
    There is a slim chance we may be surprised in the summer. The starting point is obviously getting rid of Percy. ( it was quite embarrassing yesterday watching a crap team like Wigan playing with the attributes of decent coaching -it was there for all to see).

  • 144 Munster Mag // May 12, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Jail would u blame me for being angry? A club with so much potential as ours is underachieving badly and the coaching side is being run by a man who got in with no competition, did well for one season, and has nearly got us relegated. And tool like Minx are on here defending him. Who knows maybe Minx is ” a winner” too, like his mate Pardew. The truth of the matter is that I like Pardew as a man – the public persona I find likeable. He may be arrogant in reality but I’m fed up with his tactics excuses poor coacjhing and all the rest. I wish he was better to be honest! The thought of having someone like Mark Hughes in charge is just as scary though.

  • 145 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Niafron – what is the news on Rudy Garcia, is this guy decent, does his team play football in the right manner, unproven french manager in the PL sounds like a disaster to me.

    Would love Rafa Benitez, although at times his selections are a little baffling he is a winner and goes to big teams with the attitude of giving them a game. Liverpool were so inferior to Mourinhos Chelsea team in personnel however he definately had the sign over Jose Arrogantees, and that for me spells that the guy knows his onions.

    However List of previous clubs Benitez has managed.

    Valencia
    Liverpool
    Inter Milan
    Chelsea.

    Cant see him coming, on the shortlist for Real Madrid, hmmmmmm……..

  • 146 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 12, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Martinez has done wonders with what he has got at Wigan. Just keeping them in the EPL while playing some of the most attracctive football in England is a great achivement!

    …I am really impressed with his 3-4-3 style of play and have often wondered what he could do with the players we have :-)

  • 147 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Team News filitering in.

    …………………….Eliot………………….
    Simpson…Taylor….Collo…….Santon……
    ……………….Perch…Tiote……………..
    …….Sissoko…Cabaye….Jonas……..
    …………………….Cisse……………………

    Would it surprise you if the doyle picked the same front 6 as Liverpool, it is right up this clowns street. He pulls out some pearlers. Wouldnt even be surprised to see Gosling start as Cabaye has a slight injury concern. (Hates Pardew)….

  • 148 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    check

    You really never know. Rafa has made a lot of enemies down the years with the way he has acted, in particular whilst in Italy. He is still very much admired in Spain though, and the Madrid, Malaga and possible Bilbao jobs will be open.

    The biggest hurdle for me will not be the quality we can attract – it will be what Mike is willing to pay/give.

  • 149 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Big, BIG day today, a chance to stay in the premiership.

    I have seen a few figures posted about our January transfer window spending and according (mainly) to
    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/newcastle-united-transfers.html

    We made a net spend of approx £11,400,000.

    On the face of it money well spent, today we should find out if it was enough, if it wasn’t too late and spent on the right manager.

    Pardew sounds like he’s in the middle of a nervous breakdown…… strange what pressure can do!

  • 150 niafron // May 12, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    @Check the toastie

    No news about it, but his team play footabll in a VERY right manner. With a strong identity in play anyway.

    He got strong idea about that and he always pleaded for an offensive and technical football.

    And he’s certainly not unproven for he got L1 title and several CPL campaign behind him.

    Furthermore, he’s a class act.

    So could he settle in the English PL? Well, there’s always a risk for a foreign coach, but fact is, there’s always risk in football, not matter the subject.

  • 151 stuart no9 // May 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    sparky55 @123 i have always thought of you as a guy who spoke common sense. your posts were logical and factual, however , the stress seems to be getting to you over our plight , therefore i am willing to put your post @123 down to, temporary mental health issues .

  • 152 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Martinez gets Wigan playing great at times, strange how they are always battling relegation mind, they lack consistency and some of his defenders are a little kamakaze, with a good squad and proper footballing defenders (Debuchy, Collo, Mbiwa, Santon) he would have a team playing great stuff.

    Think at times mind he is more concerned about how they actually play rather than actually being single minded enough about getting 3 points. He knows hes under no pressure at Wigan and has a free hand, would like to see him in charge of the toon as it would be so refreshing to see our keeper role the ball out instead of loafing it to a non existent target man.

    Sure Pardew still thinks Carroll or Besty are playing up front for us. The dunce even favoured Shola over Besty, he has come up with some crackers whilst hes been in charge.

    Clown.

  • 153 bri h // May 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Today we should play 4-3-1-2 with Ben Arfa as player maker
    _________________ELIOT________________
    __SIMPSON___TAYLOR___COLLO___YANGA_
    ____CABAYE_____TIOTE____GUTTIREZ___
    _______________BEN ARFA______________
    __________CISSE_____GOUFFRAN________

    SUBS
    SANTON
    DEBUCHY
    PERCH
    ANITA
    MARVEUX
    CAMPBELL

    totally agree with this team.

  • 154 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    jesper

    martinez inherited a mid table side and has them scrapping against relegation every year.

    Sure the football is more attractive but it’s not better if thye are much lower in the league than they were under jewell and bruce.

  • 155 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    check

    Good analysis of martinez.

    The question i have with him is do his teams defend horribly because they are such poor defenders or does he not have the right approach to getting a team to be solid.

    Playing good football is essential to be top 4 (just look at the teams there) but you also need to have some form of shape and not just look pretty.

  • 156 nick_9 // May 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    “the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

    Pardew one minute says sissoko is our number 10 and the next its gouffran, the man is losing it.

  • 157 Jail for Ashley // May 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Afternoon Mr Tuff,
    I suppose we have to have to have our hopes and I will gladly eat my words if Ashley surprises us.
    Munster,
    I am getting increasingly wound up by this five year plan that seemingly has no direction.
    Anyway of to the battle cruiser to watch the match.
    HWTL.

  • 158 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    TS…any one can finish 5th one season, but it takes a great manager to play attractive football each year.

    I think Martinez is doing wonders with what he has got. Wigan has been relegation candidates for years now but they seem to beat it each season.

    Wigan has a really bad defense and they lack a prolific goalscorer I think. But each our own I guess ;-)

  • 159 niafron // May 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    The battle cruiser?

  • 160 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Niafron – Sounds like hes a decent bloke, would be a good appointment then eh. Is he available? i take it he has a great relationship with Cabaye and Debuchy.

    We need a change big time, could he take the job before the Arsenal game after we get battered by QPR, we may need him.

    Panic Stations………….

  • 161 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    munster

    I really don’t understand the defence of pardew either…i gte injuries made his job harder but as manager you have to try something different to get results which is something he hasn’t been able to do.

    Last season i will say was great. The football might not have been as free flowing as some wanted but with some limited players and a lot of new boys it was very good to get the team into 5th with real grit and character, as well as individual quality.

    My main issues this year are these:

    1. abandoning 433 for what can only be seen as to keep ba happy (really cant see another reason)

    2. when injuries/lack of form caused problems he hasn’t adapted. I never expected 5th again but instead of all those home defeats he could surely with a bit more ingenuity could have maybe got another 2 wins and 2 draws and had us sat up near 8th.

  • 162 nick_9 // May 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Someone who can get the most out of our players is needed as Pardew cannot. If he gets another season and doesn’t get these lads playing i will forever hating the man for wasting a team with so much potential

  • 163 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    jesper

    I don’t think anyone can get 5th…i really think with our team of players like simmo, willo, raylor, obertan then the new boys as well getting 5th was very good.

    The football wasn’t amazing but it worked and was what was needed.

    Wigan were never as bad results wise under previous managers but you can’t just be all style and little substance like martinez is, maybe at wigan but do that at a big club and you will be out of a job in 6 months.

    I do think martinez needs to get his team playing defensively better but it’s hard to say whether thats currently due to poor defenders or poor coaching (i think a mix of the two).

    But that doesn’t mean martinez couldn’t improve his defensive knowledge with a good coach alongside him.

  • 164 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    After what a posted last week about hearing Pardew was definitely out of a job come summer then hearing those interviews the last few days i think he will be gone in all honesty.

  • 165 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    For what it’s worth -my predictions:-
    1. If we attack today and don’t play that crap “inviting them on” game in our half -and get forward in numbers to support an attack -we should win.
    2. Percy to be sacked after the Arsenal game.
    3. Benitez to be appointed new manager.
    4. Regardless of who manager is Andy Carroll will be coming back.
    5. Half a team of new players in the summer -at least 5.

  • 166 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    JFA

    most of the guys out there that own clubs now treat them as toys,,

    RA at chelsea , sacks managers because they carnt get FT to score goals,,

    football is a mad world

    very cut throat, need instant success

    the good news is Man U have f****d up with moyes and will become a very average team under him

  • 167 toon252 // May 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Is YO-YO ON CRACK?

    Your stats prove how crap he is.

    60 wins – 69 losses

    He’s lost more than he’s won you retard

  • 168 JAMSHA // May 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    _________________ELIOT________________
    __SIMPSON___TAYLOR___COLLO___YANGA_
    ____DEBUCHY___CABAYE____MARVO___
    _______________BEN ARFA______________
    __________CISSE_____GOUFFRAN________

  • 169 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    mister tuff

    I agree with point 1

    points 2,3 and 5 i have heard info saying all are true

    point 4 i have heard nothing of but it is widely reported we are after him so we’ll see.

  • 170 south coast toon // May 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    if you kill yourself its called suicide, if you kill someone else its called homicide, if you kill thousands its called genocide,if you have 2 teans in the premier league that havent won it and are in a relagation battle all the time its called tyneside lol

  • 171 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Transfer Sage
    your not teasing me are you ;)

    you think he will be gone ?

  • 172 northernirishtoon // May 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Mancini sacked!

    Sign him up

  • 173 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    TS…weell we disagree on that mate!

    I am quite sold on Martinez and fits very well into the way I see football and the players we have.

    I think he could the right manager for us.

    TS anything outside the top four is more or less up for graps wach season. And it is getting closer and closer each year (just look at the league table season after season). Like I said each your own!

  • 174 niafron // May 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Well, will depend of Lille to qualify or not for the CPL i guess.

    The other french coach i suggest is Christian Gourcuff. (who is for is part indeed unproven but with an excellent philosophy of play).

    The other day i also suggested Zdenek Zeman.

    But don’t you have some coach in your island?

  • 175 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    well i wonder what team we will see today, i’d go for

    —————elliott——————
    –simpson-taylor-colo-mbiwa–
    ——cabaye-tiote-anita———-
    —————-ben arfa————-
    ——–gouff——–cisse———

  • 176 nick_9 // May 12, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Lets be honest surely Benitez would do better than Pardew?

    Questions always have to be asked if players would want to work under a certain manager. Swansea, West Brom, Wigan all have a certain style that some players prefer.

    I think Man United will suffer with signings a little bit without the presence of sir Alex. Is ronaldo going to want to work under Moyes? I dont think Pardew brings anything to the table, what qualities does he have? People just want to keep him for the sake of stability. Even many Arsenal fans want Wenger out after being trophyless so long

  • 177 niafron // May 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    No one to tell the poor foreigner i’am what is THE battle cruiser?

    I mean, i know what is A battle cruiser, but i guess JAil for Ashley spoke of some location in Newcastle?

  • 178 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Pardews team talk to the lads,

    ‘Right lads we need the win, you know that all my teams play good attractive football always on the front foot……..,

    so keep it tight for the first 15minutes, Rob keep hitting those long horizontal balls up to our non existent target men, Benny, Goofy, watch their full backs bombing on, make sure you dont give the ball away, lads at the back, Jonas, Cheick, dont make any mistakes if in doubt smash it out, or just go long. Right lads just be careful of Tarabbt and Zamora, they have real quality.

    ‘Same old set pieces, it has worked well so far this season, Good Luck lads, we will need it, one last thing Jonas, Cheick, it doesnt matter how shit you play dont worry you will be in next week’. Smarmy Evil Grin…..

    Used all your luck up last year you imposter.

  • 179 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    jesper

    I guess we do…i sort of see your point in that you get a lot of managers who finish in a good position once and never do it again…consistency is the key to being called a good manager i suppose. (same with strikers, get 20 goals one year then maybe 4/5 a year after)

    I’m not sure on martinez, not against him but I think he get’s more credit than he deserves and I really think there are better options out there around europe.

    I think we have a slid top 5 in england now, man utd, city, chelsea, spurs and arsenal then chasing are everton and liverpool.

    With the right manager we could be with liverpool and everton…then with 3/4 additions we could be chasing arsenal and spurs I think.

  • 180 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Transfer – just got to get those three points today -and I’m sure El Gourdo will be implementing massive changes in the summer. Even he, with his lack of knowledge of football, will know that a replication of this season cannot be tolerated again.

  • 181 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    niafron

    the last i new it was a large war ship,, and im from the area

  • 182 Slatymag // May 12, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Niafron, Battle cruiser – ryhming slang for boozer – bar.

  • 183 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    catchy

    I heard from my friend there that talks have been undertaken with benitez’s agent.

    If that’s true (and he seemed more convinced than normal) pardew is a dead man walking. Benitez would only come if we were prem league club and that shows that even if pardew keeps us up he is gone.

    Never 100% sure but this is as close to 100% as i ever have been.

  • 184 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Still playing the ITK card TS? FYI I posted after the Mackem game about being in talks with Rafa and I am most certainly not ITK, I just know people who are ;-)

  • 185 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    I just simply cannot see season tickets continuing to sell unless Pardew is removed and an exciting appointment is made in the summer.

    I know those of you that go to games support the team through thick and thin, and that’s admirable, but it would just seem like Ashley was taking advantage of that.

  • 186 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    mister tuff

    somebody posted here a few weeks ago and said klopp in germany was on 2.1 mil euro (1.7mil pounds) a year for dortmund manager.

    If managers in europe get that much surely we could get somebody of a similar quality for around that, if not lower.

    Surely for mike ashley (if he is as cheap as people say) it makes more sense to spend an extra million a year on a good manager and then have to spend less on players as he will get much more out of them and would be happier working with foreign and more technical players.

    Even if it’s not a decision based on ambition it just makes financial sense too.

  • 187 niafron // May 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Not so bad…

    Maybe could i open a bar in Paris and call him “Le croiseur de bataille!”.

    It sound impressive!

    Would be Toon’s army headquarter in France!

  • 188 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    mactoon

    just the bits and pieces i here….never a lot and the details are sketchy so never claim to be 100% on things, just try to piece together a few stories and a bit of inside stuff to see which paper rumours are more reliable/plausible.

  • 189 Slatymag // May 12, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Not to mention the hundreds of thousands for each higher place in the league table. Money well spent!

  • 190 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Transfer Sage

    id take martinez in a heart beat,,

    i think with the players we have, he could really do wonders

    his team ysterday cost half of what sergio aguero cost, and his team out played them,

    his teams always go out to play in the right way, i think he is down there every season more down to the quality of his squad than him getting it wrong,,

    i think there is only 1 that i would take out of his team and put in ours,

    he gets average players playing well above themselfs , imagin what he could do with half the french national team,,

  • 191 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    slatymag

    yeh true…it’s almost a no brainer in my eyes.

    anyway boys and girls…10 mins until the team is announced …how are people feeling?

  • 192 JackButler // May 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Apparently Pardew’s agent has been in talk’s with ITV to get him signed up to ‘I’m a celebrity get me out of here’ after being turned down for ‘Celebrity Dancing On Ice’

  • 193 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    ts

    id love Rafa to come,,

    OMG it would be great to have a real manager again,

    our last one was SBR god rest his soul

    fingers crossed :D

  • 194 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Well I thought after last summer’s spectacular fail TS you were dropping the ITK $hite but obviously not! You just set yourself up for a big fall but you’ll learn the hard way again I suppose.

  • 195 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    mctoon

    sounds good though dont it

  • 196 JackButler // May 12, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    @catchy

    Why would you want Martinez here?

    His teams are constantly battling relegation and year after year only perform for the last two months of the season.

    There have to be serious question marks over the fact that from August to February Wigan are the whipping boys of the league but then amazingly turn up an perform from March through May?

  • 197 Greebol1892 // May 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    LeToonARMY – I think the selection is the expected one (not the DESIRED) but I still think HBA & Gouffram will be pushed wide. Anyone who has Anita & Marveaux in their starting 11 wants their heeds checked. Pardew clearly doesn’t like Vurnon and sees Sylvain as an extra “luxury” player. However, in my opinion, Anita should start instead of Jonas. We still need Tiote for his fight but we need faster link-up – hence Anita. Marv can come on as sub when Gouffran inevitably comes off – tired or not…… AND THERE IS NO PLACE no.23 ON THE BENCH so I am optimistic of at least a draw. That’s what I dreamt of with Cisse scoring a volley from inside the box: 1-1.
    HOWAY THE LADS!

  • 198 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    catchy

    I have no doubt manager like martinez are good at getting even average players to play above themselves…i bet with his coaching and the forgiveness (if thats the right way to say it) of letting defenders make the odd mistake as long as they play the ball out even willo might look a bit better.

    I just am unsure if he has the ability to organise a defense, which is still an important thing to do.

    But i suppose if he came here there is nothing to say he couldn’t bring a good defensive coach as well to help him move the side to an even higher level.

  • 199 John Tudor // May 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    the boozer battle cruiser pub water hole

  • 200 Slatymag // May 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    TS

    How am I feeling? Not exactly overly – confident mate, just trying to reassure myself that the players are as good as their reputations make out, and that they put in a performance that they can be proud of regardless of AP’s instructions.

  • 201 northernirishtoon // May 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    TS

    What was this spectacular fail that I’ve seen people comment on a few times. Pease enlighten me

    Can nay remember prouds spectacular fail on remy but he can’t be blamed for that.

  • 202 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    mac toon

    i never failed last summer so not sure what you are on about.

    I say every time i post things are never 100% just piecing things together.

    And learn the hard way? a few people might complain about me on the internet….oh no, whatever will i do.

  • 203 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Tranfer @185 – I agree with your line of thinking -pay extra for quality manager – could mean spending less on players over the managers tenure. Surely even El Gourdo will know this option.
    Anyway just got to wait a week now to see what unfolds and probably get an idea of which direction we a headed towards. Same old or new beginnnings.

  • 204 catchy in norway // May 12, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    JackButler
    &
    TS

    right now, id pray for someone like martinez, he is 10 times the manager AP is

    but straight choice between RM and RB , rafa for me, proved he can work with top players,, even now, he has the hardest job in football, and he is doing well under pressure

  • 205 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Catchy, the best bit of news is that we seem to be considering a new manager, whether or not it happens or whoever Ashley gets for the job, we’ll just have to wait and see if it’s an improvement.
    Fingers crossed though.

    I hear lots of stuff from the club all the time but rarely post it here as it’s rarely 100% accurate. I was actually with the club secretary, at a meeting, when the news came through that Remy wasn’t signing. It was obvious by her reaction it should have been 100% done and dusted but nope… things rarely are with football and especially Newcastle United.

  • 206 northernirishtoon // May 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Williamson starting

    Wonder what’s wrong with saylor?

  • 207 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    northernirish toon

    possibly that i said we were after debuchy, which we were, made bis just had them turned down.

    once i said that we would announce a signing on thursday, i presumed a player as we were inked with one but it turned out we announced carr’s new contract so still a signing.

    I always say whatever i post is never 100%, my friend is just business side so never hears deals, just rumour and pieces together agent meetings, calls, expense claims from club officials etc with stories to see which are more plausible.

    Unfortunately some don’t understand this and then get angry.

  • 208 Cool Hand Luke // May 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    The last few interviews have convinced me that Pardew has lost the plot, in a way that KK’s infamous ‘love it’ rant could only dream of. Perhaps he sees himself as a modern day Moses figure, leading his team through the wilderness to the promised land of milk and honey, that is to say the brink of relegation.

  • 209 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 28s

    #nufc Elliot; Debuchy, Williamson, Coloccini (c), Yanga-Mbiwa; Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez; Ben Arfa, Cisse, Gouffran

  • 210 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 49s

    #nufc bench Harper, Simpson, Perch, Anita, Marveaux, Obertan, Campbell.

  • 211 nick_9 // May 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Transfer Sage – What worries me is who chooses the manager if we get one? If its ashley his past appointments haven’t really worked out well so i’m not so sure he is a good judge of character when it comes to football managers. Joe Kinnear and Pardew had me startled the most.

    Same predictable team today and same predictable clueless play. Surprise me Alan…

  • 212 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    catchy

    I really like Rafa as a man, which is one of the most important things for me. I’d like to be proud of the Newcastle manager again, like we all were under SBR and then under Hughton.

  • 213 JackButler // May 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Debuchy and Williamson……………..We are Doomed ;)

  • 214 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    When you changed your name to Transfer Sage you gave us all some info, whether it was last summer (which I thought) or January it was wrong and you got some $hite about it….. my memory fades but sure it isn’t that bad!

  • 215 DevonMag // May 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Williamson starts…cue mass hysteria.

  • 216 northernirishtoon // May 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    TS

    I’m always eager to hear any rumblings from the club so keep posting anything you hear

  • 217 Jamiemac // May 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Damn would have liked Simmo, apart from that not bad, should be enough to beat QPR but we will see..

  • 218 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    mactoon

    again…nothing i say is 100% guaranteed (even ashley though he had remy in the bag and was wrong and he does the deals)

    I only posted under a different name for about 2/3weeks anyway.

    I never claim any deal is nailed on.

  • 219 ToonDownSouth // May 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Colo and Williamson put in our best defensive performance for months against Benfica, so I’m not fussed about that at all.

  • 220 toonbrother // May 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    good line up. lets go

  • 221 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Williamson , surely Perch or Play Mbiwa CB and play Anita or Perch full back, Willo has been treat like shit by Pardew and now hes back, i despair. Jonas and Tiote, surprise surprise.

  • 222 Transfer Sage // May 12, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    nick

    hopefully ashley will have carr and other scouts telling him which teams they scout play the best football and which they think can transfer that style to a one that works in the prem league with out set of players

  • 223 check the toastie // May 12, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    TDS – we should have been 3 down in 20 minutes against Benfica at home. Rubbish. Willo was terrible.

  • 224 Toonfan93 // May 12, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Hope marveaux comes on today, also anita must be gutted he came here never gets a chance to play anymore.

  • 225 nick_9 // May 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Sage its probably irrelevant anyhow. I am sure Pardew will be able to talk Ashley into giving him another season. He is now using the should have spent more in the summer card more frequently

  • 226 fray bentos // May 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Lets hope our foreign legion play with some grit today!

  • 227 Hebburn Mag // May 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Formation (4-3-3) Starting 11next season.
    GK – Krul

    RB – Debuchy
    LB – Haidara
    CB – Yanga
    CB – S.Taylor

    DM – Cabaye

    CM – Tiote
    CM – Sissoko

    RF Goufran

    CF – Cisse

    LF – Ben Arfa

  • 228 Toonfan93 // May 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Cant stand paul merson saying we will lose 2-0 today and get relegated, always slates us sad man

  • 229 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    MacToon @204.
    Interesting post -you state you were with the club secretary when the news came through about the Remy bid and then you describe HER reaction.
    Very interesting especially when the club secretary is Lee Charnley -a bloke.
    Could you explain further please -if you wish.

  • 230 fray bentos // May 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    “Willo have been treat like shit by Pardew”

    Why? how? is there something i have missed this season?

  • 231 Hebburn Mag // May 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    There’s a young player (CB) that ive seen play a few times that I think we should take a look at. Hes called Kurt Zouma an he plays for Saint Etienne in Ligue 1 in France.

    Cracking you player (18yrs old) worth a shot, he would be a first choice CB for us within 1-2 seasons and would only cost about 7-9M. Worth a shot. Have a look at him on youtube.

  • 232 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Mister Tuff…. thought she was club secretary… err whatever her position is, her name is “””” can’t remember bu I’ll find it……

    You’ll not prove I’m lying mate but mistaken on her position at the club…….

  • 233 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Head of Media, Wendy T ;-)
    maybe being sexist saying secretary ha ha

  • 234 Mister Tuff // May 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Mactoon @231 – I expect it was probably one of the secretarys’ at the club but not “The Club Secretary”. I was going to suggest to you it was Lee Charnley in drag but decided not to.
    Just teasing

  • 235 MacToon // May 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    The grey cells are too slow nowadays but got there in the end…… could only think of that carp journo Karen Brady ha ha but got there eventually!

  • 236 sparky55 // May 12, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Stuart No 9…just got back in from work and catching up on the blog and yes…LOL…a temporary lapse of sanity for sure!




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