Alan Pardew’s Job Is Safe – He’s Started Like Moyes At Everton


There’s news today in the Evening Chronicle today that Alan Pardew has already been told his job is safe at Newcastle, and that he will continue as the Newcastle manager.

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Alan Pardew – will continue as Newcastle manager

After doing extremely well in taking Newcastle up to 5th position in the league last season, this season’s Premier League performance has simply been a disaster – with Newcastle being completely unprepared for competing in the Europa League – in which we played 14 games.

The squad was just not big enough, and we got more injuries than could have been expected, with players like Coloccini, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Krul out for long periods, and we lost Demba Ba in January to Chelsea, and he was not replaced.

But we thought Mike Ashley would keep Pardew on Tyneside, and most managers struggle in their first few seasons – Davide Moyes and Alex Ferguson at Everton and Manchester United – two long term managers – are two very good examples.

Davide Moyes joined Everton in March 2002, and in his first full season in charge Everton were 7th top in 2003, but then in the next season (2004) they finished 4th bottom, on 37 points and only survived relegation because they had a better goal difference that Leicester City – 12 to -17, and stayed up.

But Moyes survived and was not fired, and the next season in 2004, he had Everton 4th top with 61 points, and they got into the Champions League and were one place above Liverpool in the league.

People often say how they want stability at Newcastle, like Everton and Manchester United have – but if Moyes had been at Newcastle he would have been fired in 2004. – for sure.

In 2004 when Everton were 4th bottom, Bobby Robson was fired when Newcastle finished 5th top on 56 points, and got to the semi-final of the UEFA Cup that season.

Bobby Robson was fired and David Moyes survived. – so you see what we mean. – and Newcastle are a different club than we were in 2004 – we’re have more  stability and in much better financial health.

Alex Ferguson – another long term manager had huge problems in his first three seasons at Manchester and only the Board – and particularly Bobby Charlton – stuck by him in his second season when they had a number of their top players out injured.

Newcastle have tried changing managers before when they have one bad season – or one bad half season even – but it hardly helps the stability of the club – and new managers will want different players brought in and it gets to be very costly.

And since Mike Ashley has been at the club we’ve had six managers, but only two since our relegation four years ago – the great Chris Hughton who saved Norwich yesterday when they hammered West Brom 4-0, and now Alan Pardew.

We’ve got a great squad – when everybody is fit – and the fact that Alan is staying will be a boon to the players – who will know what to expect next season.

It’s hardly a surprise – although we know a number of Newcastle fans will not be happy about this – and that may be an understatement.

And Pardew will need to have a very good season next term.

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70 comments so far

  • cyprus

    May 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #1

    This team has obviously not gelled. We are talking international stars here and they can’t play together. Maybe it is the coach (as it seems), maybe it isn’t. E.g. Ba and Cisse cannot play together!

    So, I honestly won’t mind a big clear out… the chemistry just isn’t there.

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  • Beattie25

    May 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #2

    For the last time:

    Moyes inherited a relegation bound team that was expected to be relegated due to the complete lack of quality.

    Everton fans had had a decade of poor football and shocking

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  • catchy in norway

    May 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #3

    yeh yeh

    its the Evening Chronicle ,, lee ryder is the second bigest hoop kisser behind pardew,,

    there from the same cloth

    lmfao

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  • Rainrix

    May 13, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #4

    See ed’s firmly in the pro pardew camp then. 🙂

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 13, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #5

    I think Moyes is a bit over rated, but he never got 3 teams nearly relegated, or had 2 record losing streaks at 2 different clubs or got sacked for low staff morale. In addition his teams do play a bit of football.

    If Pardew doesn’t want to be in europe what exactly is our ambition?

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  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 13, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #6

    We are wasting our time keeping him in the job

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  • catchy in norway

    May 13, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #7

    ED

    loves AP

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  • Beattie25

    May 13, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #8

    For the last time:

    Moyes inherited a relegation bound team that was expected to be relegated due to the complete lack of quality.

    Everton fans had had a decade of poor football and shocking league finishes that culminated in Moyes getting the job to offer a new direction.

    He improved the club no end and despite near relegation the fans enjoyed better football, tactics and could for the most part see a bright future should Moyes be retained.

    In the team they had lots of extremely poor players and that combined with lack of investment meant that Moyes did superb to keep them up.

    Moyes won over the Evertonians through his dignified persona, passionate personality and honest approach.

    There is absolutely no comparison to the two managers.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 13, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #9

    If he isn’t sacked we’ll just waste a season.
    He’s lost the fans.

    He sucks as a person, he blames everyone around him for his own failures.

    Sack him now, lets get in someone decent and kick on.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 13, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #10

    Cyrpus….It could also be argued that a pre-season together, without the arrogance of “we got 5th last year and have arrived” may well help with the gelling process this time around.

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  • catchy in norway

    May 13, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #11

    Rotonda heights

    100 quid going on man u not winning anything while moyes is there

    🙂

    easy money

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  • WWYCD

    May 13, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #12

    I would love a stable club with a settled manager for 10+ years only issue here is if Pardew is that manager who Ashley trusts/backs or he’s just the one easiest for him to control

    And tbf it all depends on Ashley’s ambitions for the club which are very unclear imo though my opinions on what he wants dont fall in line with what fans want but that could just simply be my bias

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  • SuperShearer

    May 13, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #13

    I’ll say this much for Pardew; he seems to be right about the press making up split rumours in the dressing room. Saw Afra, Cisse, Marveux and Cabaye yesterday after the game and all seemed pretty happy. Colo was beaming when he left.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #14

    If Ashley sticks with Pardew which is looking increasingly more likely then we all know it’s because of his ability to tell lies and his willingness to contradict anything his superiors think is unsuitable and not because of the attractive football and ability to get results.

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  • Beattie25

    May 13, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #15

    JFA

    Couldn’t agree more. If Pardew stays it will be passed off as the hunt for stability but it won’t be for the love of football, desire to challenge at the top end and for ambitions to take the club forward.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 13, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #16

    SuperShearer…Thanks for that update. I have been open to the idea there are problems behind the scenes, but quite honestly, you’d expect there to be given our league position and with the threat of relegation. Far too many easily jumping on the idea that is must be them unwilling to play for Pardew and his tactics, which it still may be, but not conclusive.

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  • yorkymag

    May 13, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #17

    I am not at all interested in the views of lots of experts in the press particularly Ryder who probably has one of the lowest hit rates in terms of accuracy with the stories h makes up ?
    Ashley will do the necessary,I can’t see too many queuing for season tickets with Pardew still in charge
    And that is what will drive Ashley more than anything

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  • derekm

    May 13, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #18

    The best thing about yesterday apart from having Bosingwa as a toon fan was the fact that the most important portion of the game, after elliot walked, was that the back four knew and trusted implicitly Harper as the replacement. Ironically his last game for his beloved club after such a long period of service will now be as the number one choice in a no pressure game at a full St James. Cannot think of a better way to end a troubled season than for us to thank a truly valued servant – if he had left us rather than stay as Given’s deputy he would have been close to an england call in my opinion.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 13, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #19

    First of all, I see no quotes from the club to say he is safe in that article, the amount of time Ryder gets things right I could count on my right hand.

    Secondly, Everton won more trophies in the 11 years (2, FA Cup and Charity Shield) prior to Moyes then they did after his arrival. Zero trophies, numerous relegation scraps, a handful of top half finishes. Granted on a low budget, but people say Pardew has lowered our thoughts on how successful we should be, in which case, how can they argue Moyes has been such a success. People forget Everton won the League twice and European Cup Winners Cup in the mid to late 80’s. They realistically have more right to expect trophies than we do based on recent history.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #20

    Forget before the injuries. For over half a season Pardew tried to play Ba and Cisse together in a 442 and then with Cisse as a winger !!

    It never once occurred to Pardew to rotate them in the central striker position and play someone like Marv left in a front 3 to replicate last season’s success with a 433.

    When Ba was sold he tried to play Cisse as a target man. You couldn’t make it up. Pardew is a narcicistic, egomaniacal idiot in charge of a great squad. Mullins and Harewood type players are his level.

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  • Beattie25

    May 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #21

    Has anyone ever worked in a team before?

    There could be massive splits, arguments and decisions as wide as the Pacific Ocean but if you get the the results that ensure safety for all then you are bound to be happy and joyous.

    It proves nothing either way as Ibiza says.

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  • Indian Magpie (HD_07 on Twitter)

    May 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #22

    Can some 1 please tell me what was Jonas’s role yesterday? after west ham where he faked injuries he was at it again.losing possession

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  • Beattie25

    May 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #23

    * divisions

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  • AndyMac

    May 13, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #24

    ” and most managers struggle in their first few seasons”

    Yeah I noticed Jose having a hard time at Porto, Chelski and Inter. Got to give Pardwho a century or more before he’ll get that good !

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #25

    Keeping Pardew is just putting off his sacking …

    He’s guaranteed to f~~~ it up at some point.

    Perhaps a fourth FA Cup exit on the trot to lower league opposition will do it?
    Another record breaking home defeat?
    Another record breaking sequence without a win?

    Shame we’ll have to endure watching Pardew’s tactics fail for another season.
    Let’s keep a clean sheet and go for it in the last ten minutes …
    Let’s protect our one goal lead by shutting up shop … only 80 minutes to go lads …

    Just sack him and let us move on.
    The Pardew chapter needs to close this week.
    He’s done enough damage.

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  • Geord Aye Mind Tricks

    May 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #26

    You dont need to sack me Mike…

    These aren’t the droids you’re looking for…

    We can go about our business… (wave of hand)

    Hi gents, first post. This for me is the only realistic (ahem) excuse for MA not sacking Pardew.

    So relieved, but so bitter and frustrated at the same time.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 13, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #27

    Yorky

    I think you’re right . season tickets will dictate change or not

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    May 13, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #28

    We are two Strikers and a Strong Central Midfielder short of a Top Team ?

    If we get them in the Summer is another question? Plus Pardew seems to be hated at the moment by the Geordie Nation!

    If i was Ash i would tell Pardew that he has one more season to try and make us forget this one?
    If, however we start next season the same way we ended this one Ashley will need to start looking for a replacement? But Who?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 13, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #29

    On another note, delighted Harper will be able to play in ur final game of the season, at home and receive a send off that a great servant to the club deserves. Has always done well when called upon, and not complained when he has being ovelooked. Also, Krul Foster and Given have said how helpful to them he was in training and in the development of the youngsters, and in calming nerves, and being supportive, despite it being to the detriment of his personal career.

    I hope the anti Pardew calls don’t dampen the thanks and applause he gets on the day.

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  • Beattie25

    May 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #30

    Pardew:

    “The fact we’re not in the Europa League – and god willing we don’t get in on the Fair Play award – we can have a good run at the Premier League.”

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  • lesh

    May 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #31

    It just beggars belief that after escaping relegation on the by virtue of Villa and Wigan losing key games, a 0-3 and a 0-6 and poor tactics, Pardew should be safe. Let’s hope it’s the Chron stirring the pot!

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  • Get-Well-Ryan-Taylor

    May 13, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #32

    Can’t take another 2.5 minutes of Pardews football never mind another 2.5 seasons.

    We need a change in manager a.s.a.p.

    Stability for stabilities sake is pointless, positive football philosophy first! then stability with that mentality and the support of 52000 Geordies = success and more importanly PRIDE in our club again.

    Being proud of just staying up isn’t enough!

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 13, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #33

    super shearer

    were the other 6 players though lol !

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #34

    Griff-toon // May 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    One thing Pardew could do now is show us how he would like us to play against Arsenal.

    ——–

    Griff, I commend your optimism, I am usually an optimist myself. He has continued to play his way since we’ve got here and it’s been a constant slew of poor disjointed performances and as Rotonda has perfectly explained, has failed to alter glaring tactical failures.

    He has played his way since he started managing and look at his previous record, he can’t change it.

    The worst thing would be let Pardew start the season as even after a few games, we’ll still be doing abysmally negative things on the pitch… except have the full season to guarantee us for relegation.

    Make no mistake about it, if we had 5 more games to play this year, we’d be down.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #35

    surely if ashley sees that comment about fair play play he’ll be livid. Europe is the holy grail

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  • yorkymag

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #36

    Rotunda
    Just imagine how many season tickets would be sold if Rafa were to be the manager and a couple of top signings pea and big andy
    I am sure that will be somewhere in cashley s mind

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  • TorqToon

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #37

    Rotonda – Have to agree mate.

    Need a modern manager in the mould of Rodgers, Laudrup et al.

    Our strongest XI is one of the best in the league, but we have no strength in depth. And that has to be a mixture of youth and experience.

    Hatem – You are right. There is no credit being given to our lads, and whilst I agree bosingwa helped our cause, we needed get into the riget areas to force the play. HBA hassling high up the pitch for the penalty and Jonas working hard to close down green and force the mis kick, which Gouff duly converted.

    Not an amazing performance, but In reality, the result was all that mattered. Would people have prefer an excellent attacking display of flair, which resulted in a defeat?!

    Thought not!

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  • donkey

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #38

    He’s Started Like Moyes At Everton oh yerree why dont we just give him a 26 year contract and he might win what fergie has just give him more time and he will bring success what sort of backward logic is that MOYES WAS 11 YEARS BECAUSE HE NEVER DONE NOTHINK WRONG FOR HIS FANS OR CHAIRMAN TO TURN ON HIM HENCE WHY HE HAS MAN U JOB NOW

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #39

    I have grown to be supportive of Ashley, and have said that this summer will prove where he wants the club to be. If we stick with Pardew, for me he is now accepting mediocrity and that isn’t good enough. I think he has learned his lessons from last summer, so will invest on the playing side, but this summer, the backroom is where he will prove his desire for the club.

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  • outsidethebox

    May 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #40

    Next season starts here…
    we need to get a few players in a few players out ….
    we need a new coach to freshen coaching staff and work on set plays …
    we also need stability and that dosent come with changing manager …we had a run in europe and found that the squad wasn,t good enough ..we need to look as to why we were top of injury list all season…but most of all we need patience as hard as it may seem …lets regroup and wait and see what stamp of player is brought in …i will be first in line with placard if they are mediocre

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