Players Struggling Initially Is Expected – Can Magpies Keep Coloccini?


Fabricio Coloccini has been in terrific form for Newcastle since he came back from his back injury 10 days ago at West Ham, and Newcastle have claimed 4 valuable points and conceded only one goal in those two games – and that was a penalty needlessly given away by Mathieu Debuchy on Sunday.

fab coloccini in action

Fabricio Coloccini – huge influence at Newcastle

It’s now becoming obvious that Colo has been missed big time at the back by Newcastle, and heaven only knows how well we would have done had the Argentine International not missed 12 games with that back injury he picked up in the 4-2 win against Southampton.

Like many players that come to Newcastle, Colo had a tough first season five years ago, but then in the Championship he was immense, and helped Newcastle to get straight back up where we belong – in the Premier League.

So Colo knows it’s difficult for some of our new players who have arrived at the club to fit straight in, and the Newcastle captain had this to say today on the official Newcastle site today, and he thinks the new players will help the club big time next season and is not surprised some have struggled initially:

“That’s normal,” “The same happened with me – the first year was very difficult.” “But I think the players who came, they are doing very well.”

“It’s quicker and maybe they feel a bit tired but it’s normal.” “And next year they will be better for it.”

The five Frenchmen have all done well in what has been a fiery baptism for them at Newcastle and Vurnon Anita has struggled in the second half of the season, but the Dutchman wasn’t given much opportunity by Alan Pardew in the side, once the five French players arrived in January.

19 year-old Gael Bigirimana has done well, and should be much better next season, but we’ve hardly seen Romain Amalfitano, and it’s a good question whether he will remain at Newcastle.

The one player we think we must keep – if we are to do well next season is captain Fab Coloccini.

We know he has some personal problem, s but we hope Newcastle will be able to keep the captain at the club.

If he leave, Colo will be remembered as a terrific center-back who went down with the club to the second division, but kept with the club and has been great these last three seasons.

That’s real loyalty from Fabricio – and that’s yet another reason we want him to stay – and we’ll not forget that in two games he helped Newcastle survive this season.

What do you think?

Note – I’ve been told there’s going to be a minute’s applause for Steve Harper in the 37th minute of the game on Sunday – that’s his number – and it’s in appreciation of Steve’s 20 years at the club and all he’s done for Newcastle – we should be 2-0 up by then too – please pass this on to those attending the game on Sunday.

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682 comments so far

  • boater

    May 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #1

    Coloccini is our finest player by a country mile. NUFC is traditionally where defenders’ reputations go to die, and the fact he and Woodgate emerged with reputations enhanced is astounding.

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  • hugotoon

    May 14, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #2

    Its not a question of not having enough English players with Premier League experience, the problem is having a manage who does not fit into the newcastle model of buying technically gifted players at good prices. Pardew being at the club does not make any sense beyond the personal relationships that he holds with many directors. And really need Colo to stay, his leadership is invaluable.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #3

    Nice touch for Harper. Let’s hope the timing works out 🙂

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #4

    boater

    He is a class act, top CB who calms the who defense around him. Shame he wants to leave really.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #5

    higo

    We still need players with more league experience. It’s what top teams in the league have. They might not be as technical as some of the less experienced players but experience is essential.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #6

    He wants to leave … buy a top quality replacement or force him to see out his contract. Next.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #7

    btw Woodgate was 10x better than Colo.

    Colo is okay. He can’t make the Argentinian squad most of the time … he is a little better than Taylor and Willo … Next. lol.

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  • Markaccus

    May 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #8

    He will be tough to replace thats for sure. i cant think of anyone around in the premiership who would keep him out of any side. Including the likes of JT and rio wonkylips in their hay day

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #9

    mojo

    previous post

    I think there are a few reason I want Pardew gone and it isn’t down to only results.

    It’s his whole time here, i don’t see a set style of play which is capable of winning/controlling games, i don’t see a manager looking to use his players in a way that suits them best (he uses a formation to suit his own ideas), I really think he struggles when his ‘normal team’ isn’t available, no invention to even grind out draws, way too many defeats.

    But the biggest point I guess, we are a big club in England, definite top 10, quite possibly top 5 in terms of prem league history and size of stadium/fan base. We should be able to attract a much better manager regardless of how people think he has done during his 2 1/2 years here.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #10

    bettyswallocks // May 14, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Just heard from a fairly reliable source that Pardew is staying.

    He has obviously convinced Ashley and llambias that his failures this season are due to injuries and Europe etc.

    I find it really sad that after all the mistakes Ashley has made in the past we now have a good solid platform and lots of financial stability , yet one weak link is now going to prevent our great club from finally achieving something.

    European football will no longer be a target as it tires out the players and puts too much stress on yours truly.

    With a full squad at his disposal a top 8 finish should apparently be achievable.

    More English players with PL experience will be introduced who are more physical than Anita and Marveaux.

    Pardew will have more input on the signings front.

    The team will be set up again not to lose, with the flair players allowed off the leash on the odd occasion to try and nick a goal;

    The emphasis will be put on defending any leads as oppose to trying to score more.

    And above all else the main objective by the manager will be to safeguard his position and try to boost his ego.

    Really inspiring , can t wait!!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #11

    Hatem…So what’s next then?

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #12

    Betty…I know I’m one who generally looks at the positive of what is said, but I do feel the “no EL next season” comments is being taken a little bit too much on face value.

    It’s clear this season has been a disaster and he just wants a chance to regroup and get back on track. Many people said at the end of last year that we had probably got ahead of ourselves as far as that mysterious “plan” was concerned and tbh, it has shown.

    Whilst being relieved at no EL next season, I don’t think that means they never want to get back there.

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  • cyprus

    May 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #13

    Mojo,
    It’s not so much the results, it’s the brand of football (what brand?) we play… boring, lacks creativity.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #14

    ibiza

    I think it sounds an awful comment, as does the arsenal 4-0 one.

    But for me it was the ramblings of a man who was relieved to have his team safe in the prem league.

    I feel pardew is making a lot of excuses for two reasons. One to make sure us fans think he isn’t to blame and hoping Ashley gives him another chance and two just n case he is sacked he can get a decent job by blaming others for his failings.

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  • cyprus

    May 14, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #15

    Ibiza,
    what’s with the handbag? You a lady?

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  • BRABOT

    May 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #16

    Pour remplacer Colo,ama,le meilleur en France est
    le Camerounais de Marseille,Nkoulou,le deuxieme meilleur libero apres le bresilien de PSG Sylva.
    Have you see this youg player,le meilleur jeune etranger
    du championnat Marocain since 20 years
    Bobley Anderson,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jt-gOLP9fs

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #17

    cyprus

    it’s not just the brand for me, if that brand worked as it did last year then i can live with it, not great but if it works fine.

    the fact we are watching rubbish this season, not getting results and there appeared to be no attempt at trying anything different, thats the issue…not being able to adapt.

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  • Markaccus

    May 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #18

    Ibiza dont forget that no matter what he says now only the negatives will be extracted from it. That is the point we have reached now.

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  • donkey

    May 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #19

    next blog vote on pardew its what everybody wants to know

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  • Markaccus

    May 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #20

    The arsenal 4-0 comment was clearly a joke from a relieved man. Id like to think we are all more intelligent than the spuds fans who took it seriously.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #21

    markaccus

    I am against the man, lost total faith in his ability to get the best from these players.

    But I will try to be fair and not slate the man for things he hasn’t done, just for things he has. The same with praise, he will get what he deserves off me, in my view anyway, others may disagree.

    I have heard he is gone next year, but never 100% reliable info, but if it’s wrong and he stays i will forget this and last season and merely judge him on what he does next year with no distractions and hopefully a more settled squad.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #22

    markaccus

    yeh it was a joke comment, still rather he didn’t say it, would be much better if he hadn’t said though.

    If we do lose 4-0, or something like it, then it’s not great even though it will be just a coincidence.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #23

    Mark…To be fair, they were some fairly poor comments 🙂 You are right though, this has been going on for months.

    I reckon the people on this blog should be hired as private investigators. Not always right, but boy do we dissect things.

    Cyrpus…Just a joke with all the bickering on here, “handbags at dawn” 😉

    TS…I do agree. They were poor, but I think most people know what he actually meant. If they weren’t so p*ss*d with him it wouldn’t be getting this level of hatred imo. But hey ho.

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    May 14, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #24

    Sage
    Were you saying this last season?
    “It’s his whole time here, i don’t see a set style of play which is capable of winning/controlling games, i don’t see a manager looking to use his players in a way that suits them best.
    (he uses a formation to suit his own ideas), I really think he struggles when his ‘normal team’ isn’t available, no invention to even grind out draws, way too many defeats.
    Did you read my last post?
    Explain to me what he is supposed to do when his’normal team’ is not available,play promising youngsters because that is all he was left with after a summer of non-investment,he tried that and it failed.this is ridiculous,your basically saying”yes i understand the bad times with injuries,the fact we didn’t invest in the summer,the fact that we only had 2 strikers and sold our top goalscorer,and yes Europe is a factor but we don’t know how much but still,he should do better”,it is infuriating

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  • Graeme

    May 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #25

    Whatever happens with Colo, we need to sign another CB, such as Sakho, asap. He needs to have a full pre-season with Mbiwa, Collo (If he’s still here) and possibly Saylor. First choice CB pairing would be Collo & Sakho, with Mbiwa next in line and also able to cover FB.

    Any other strengthening we are planning, such as PEA and/or Remy should also be completed at the beginning of the window. The longer our new recruits have together in pre-season, the better the squad will be.

    With just those 3 recruits (Sahko, Remy, PEA) we will be a much stronger team all over the park come August. It will be most interesting to see what we actually end up with though!!!

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  • Markaccus

    May 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #26

    T sage. Cant say fairer than that. Speaking to some of mates they are split between giving him more and getting rid. The ones against him are like you where they dont hate the man himself just some of the things he has done football wise. They havnt labelled him arogant or owt likw that which a few here have.

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  • wynsleap

    May 14, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #27

    It was obvious by the manager and owner’s comments at the end of last season that qualification for the Europa League had been unexpected and not really wanted.
    The alternative to not having a season in European competition is, we are led to believe, better for us in terms of players having fewer games thus reaching the very highest place in the Premiership we can.
    The probable result of that nonsense? – a place in Europe the following season.
    Throw in the obvious disregard and disinterest of the two domestic trophies on offer by playing the second team or kids and it would seem like the whole point of us being a club is a complete waste of time.
    This club has far too many ‘agendas’ and should just go out to buy the best players possible in our financial frame, play them on the field, forget about whether we should be in or out of cups and get back to the days when we all used to look forward to our football without being embroiled in balance sheets, should we play our best team or not and all the other off the field shenannigans.
    As Shankly always said – “Football is a simple game”. Here it is only made more complicated by the buffoons that run the Toon.

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  • Novocastrian66

    May 14, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #28

    Tranfer Sage; Has your contact had anymore info on Pardew? I think the meeting they will have will decide his future. Not as cut and dried as it seems, in my opinion.
    Whoever is manager next season will get my support.

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  • Beattie25

    May 14, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #29

    Bobley Anderson
    What a name

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  • Mag.no

    May 14, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #30

    If players are injured Pardew must adapt. I compare Pardew with managers at the same level(EPL) and how they adapt when they have players out injured. Pardew is by far the worst manager in that department. He is unable to make the best of the players he’s already got. We will always have injuries so this scares the cr*p out of me.

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  • Generic Commenter

    May 14, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #31

    Bored of the Pardew comments so will skip straight past them….

    Collo is massive for this club no doubt, but give young Mapau a chance I say. He has bags of talent and can play anywhere at the back, he is going to be huge for this club I say. If he can ease into the CB role and take over Collo, ideal after next season (I want Collo for 1 more season) I think we’ll have a superb replacement

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #32

    mojo

    Last season I was honestly watching games and enjoying them, not for the football but because there was a confidence that we would always pinch the points with a wonder goal, or that krul would pull off a save to keep the points…it was tense and exciting.

    I think we needed to get more points this year…we dropped too many at home when we had a good team out at least 8/9 of the best 11 which should be enough really.

    We had good teams for home games to west ham, swansea, villa, sunderland and reading and we still dropped points. only got 1 from those games which is terrible.

    I think a better manager would have us top 10, around 10 points better off, just my belief.

    When we attacked man utd we had out weakest midfield of the season, bigi, marv, anita and perch…hardly a great side but we ran them close.

    Early season we should have been pressing teams, especially at home, the way we pressed man utd away.

    This time of year i get why performances are harder to get as we are under pressure, but early season there wasn’t that excuse.

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  • indian

    May 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #33

    This is about the whole pardew out issue. I dont post much, but I think someone of you might recognise me, I am not indian magpie I am another Indian. Okay, SO now my point about Pardew. I am not anti Pardew or pro pardew but I’ve been looking at the facts and thinking, and this is my conclusion regarding pardew and MA’s ambitions.

    Now Pardew, when he came into the scene he was regarded as one of the best upcoming managers, i.e he had\has potential. Now, he got us to 5th last term so we can say he still had potential. For a young manager like a AVB or a Michael Laudrup we would be a stepping stone to bigger clubs, which means a headache for replacing the managers every few season’s like swansea, and god forbid if we end up with one bad one, it is a total downhill cycle. So we cannot have someone like that. Reagrding a big manager like Benitez, honestly he will not come and if he does, these managers only come for a few season’s because their personal CV’s are more important than the club so they really just want to manage all over. That means only one time of manager left, i.e a person with potential,but who isn’t too big a name and hence will stick around (someone like Moyes). Now potential means the manager has to grow, and probably that is what MA is doing. Like scouting young players who will grow, he has “scouted” a manager with potential who will grow and give stability. Moyes learnt the ropes, it took him time but he did it. Hence, my conclusion is Pardew is the best option we have for stability.

    Now regarding MA and his ambition. We still owe MA around 130 million pounds. It will take him a hell lot of time if he tries to to get it bit by bit (i.e by getting mid table finishes and not spending on transfers and siphoning some money every year) . I dont think that is his plan, cuz frankly it’s too long and he would definetly want his money faster. So what he does is, make the club financially stable,hence our policy, and then invest in such a way that the club gets successful. A successful club, and financially in good health,that too in the premier league will def fetch a very handsome price, and he can add on his 130 million in the asking price and get it!

    Atleast this is the plan I think, and I see the logic. Comemnts welcome!

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  • Beattie25

    May 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #34

    If we brought in Ogobanna or Sakho I’d wave colo off without a second thought.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand

    May 14, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #35

    MoJo….

    Can I jump in again? 🙂

    I think last season our style was very much so hit and miss (that isn’t a reference to hoofball by the way). That was understandable as we had a mix match of different types of players and they were a new team. Many expected and said last season that as time went on the style would improve, the key motto being “have patience, give him time” – which many did.

    I can justify for me, why it hasn’t improved this season.

    Our pre-season was a bit of a shambles due to the Euros. Benny and Cabaye, arguably 2 of our most influential players missed most of the pre season (if my memory serves me correctly), we were waiting for some missing pieces of the puzzle in new players, which never arrived and to be honest, I think there was a certain arrogance with the manager and players that we got 5th and we’d made it.

    As the season progressed, we started building up injuries, which whilst not the end of the world to some, would have and did impact on our team.

    Really it’s just snowballed from their. Confidence has dropped, more players got injured, pressure enhanced. It’s been a disaster since Christmas. The fact we haven’t been relegated truly is a relief…a fair few on here had us down as relegated.

    Do I think he could have done more to get us playing well? Maybe, but would it have worked at that time with all of the pressure? I’m really not so sure. That work should have been done earlier, but you have to start at some point.

    I think people would just like to see some things being changed and not just the promise of change down the line.

    Sometimes you just have to make do with what you have and start the process.

    If Pardew does stay, he will need to do that this summer to try and get fans back onside. The geordies aren’t fickle imo, lord knows they love a trier, but they don’t like feeling that someone is feeding them BS, which is what many feel right now.

    I certainly can put this season down as one huge learning curve, but he’ll need to show he has learned, sooner rather than later.

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  • indian

    May 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #36

    Sorry for all the typos

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #37

    mojo

    what’s infuriating?

    to take the example to extreme…it’s like man utd having an injury to welbeck and dropping 20 points. I understand that him not playing will have some impact but not 20 points worth of impact.

    The same with our current plight. I think we have had problems but I don’t think those problems are enough to account for our style of play and the lack of points we have this season.

    From what we have had available in a lot of the home games we have lost to weaker teams I think we should have picked up a good few more points.

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  • indian

    May 14, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #38

    Damn I killed the blog 🙁

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    May 14, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #39

    Uh-oh Mojo talking about what’s logical and what’s illogical, calm down folks, give him some space 😛 just joshing lad.

    You are aware that 2 separate people can apply logic and reason with regards the exact same situation and arrive at polar opposite conclusions.

    To claim “I’m using logic and I want Pardew to stay” doesn’t make the opposite any less logical.

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  • catchy in norway

    May 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #40

    Markaccus

    all we get from pro pardew fans is , give him a chance, or look at the table last year we finished 5th

    but if you sit and watch the games under pardew, we are more concerned about the other team and what they can do, than what our strengths are as a team and play to them

    this is why we have no style of play,,

    this is why pardew is lost, he has no real value in what a player can offer, he is only there todo what pardew wants them todo

    i would love to know what jonas’s best position is, because i believe we have better players in our squad to play in all the positions he has coverd for us,, its not like he was our our last option,, he has been first choice

    i really feel sorry for Anita, we have a young,fit,very good footballer, who 3 times has been named man of the match, carnt get on before obertan,perch as a sub

    pro pardew

    please tell me how we set up for a match,,

    now i dont think its sad that i can tell you how most of the other team in the prem will set up. but my own team, the one i follow every week, i have no clue what we try to do to win a game

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