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West Ham And Newcastle Vie For England Striker

9:48 am, Wednesday, May 15th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 62 Comments

News today in the Daily Express that West Ham are trying to nail down a deal for Andy Carroll – and the say it’s an exclusive – but this has been reported probably every other week this year.

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Andy Carroll - bidding starts for Geordie striker

The Express say that Andy wants to tie up a deal quickly to stay in London, and that he has a good relationship with Hammers manager Sam Allardyce, who first managed Andy at Newcastle back in 2008, before big Sam was sacked in early 2009.

While they say that West Ham are in the driver’s seat, they report Newcastle are interested, but would find it hard to meet Andy’s £90K/week wages.

So West Ham can afford those wages – and Newcastle, who have the 20th highest revenues of any football club in the world can’t?

That just doesn’t make sense, especially with the Financial Fair Play Rules starting to bite for European clubs – and in any case Andy cannot expect to get those wages at another club – hes not worth those wages.

But if Newcastle are indeed interested in their former striker they should move now, and at least see what Liverpool would be willing to take for him – because they will not get the £17M they are asking for.

What do you think?

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62 responses so far ↓

  • 1 lewytoon // May 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    im still unsure if i would take him back…..

  • 2 Ben3arfa // May 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    if Andy prefers to be play under fat Sam then he can piss right off

  • 3 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Ed…Not sure it’s as simple as we can’t match those wages, but don’t want to.

    Do I think he should be the highest earner at the club? Do I even need to answer that?

    At the end of the day, I wouldn’t mind AC coming back, but I don’t want them to break the bank for the lad, lets leave that to the bindippers.

  • 4 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Ibiza. Yeah i can accept the post themselves. I’m only likely to start if one of them decide to start calling me blind and stupid for not 100% agreeing with them. Apparently i am being childish when i call it bullying….. but hey, what do i know, i am blind and stupid

    and yes, i wont be blocking those ads, unless it changes to men :s

  • 5 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Mark….Are you blind as well? Good to know I’m in familiar company ;)

    From what I remember of the ads, it was always questionable gender.

  • 6 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Liverpool don’t want him. They would have to sell him to us cheaper than anyone else because of the sell on clause. No way will anyone pay 90k a week to a lad who has only played 2 half seasons since going to liverpool. Theoretically he should be a bargain.

  • 7 discrepancia // May 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    well the fact that the only two clubs which want carrol are west ham and newcastle, well that means a lot ..or enough
    and of course Rodgers won’t give carrol even a minute in this great liverpool fromation play

  • 8 Indian Magpie // May 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    ED

    AT LEAST DO YOUR FU**ING HOMEWORK. SAM WAS SACKED IN EARLY 2008

  • 9 WWYCD // May 15, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    As always for the right price bring him home he’d add something to our play and he is no where near as bad as most now think he is plus hes a geordie and supports the club could turn out to be a leader on the pitch as well

  • 10 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Which youngsters do we think deserve a chance this year? bearing in mind they were all chucked in to the deep end at the beginning of the season. Campbell deserves a shot for me. who else. Does sammy get another chance, or is he the same as his big bro?

  • 11 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Is that not a tad harsh, Indian. Thats called a “mistake”. Have you never made one? That is the kind of bs i was complaining about yesterday.

  • 12 discrepancia // May 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    remy , not carroll please..
    but i have a big doubt how a masterpiece like pardew would match cisse and remy toFor what have seen by now most likely pardew would put remy at the wing..

  • 13 WWYCD // May 15, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Markaccus
    Bigi and Vuckic if he can prove his fitness if not get shot and maybe Sreete

    Campbell, Sammy and Fergy out on loan the rest I dont see a real future for

  • 14 Indian Magpie // May 15, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    MY APOLOGIES

    MR HARISSON

  • 15 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Indian…What the hell? Is there a need to swear at Ed? As always, you don’t need to read Ed’s articles or frequent the comments section free of charge if you don’t want to.

    That doesn’t mean you can’t correct him, he is human and will make mistakes, but back to my original question, what the hell?

  • 16 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    whoops, a tad late.

  • 17 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    oh its 10… time for a cuppa and a slice of toast i think….

  • 18 Spoof // May 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Looks like the silly transfer season has begun, I read one report, forget where, but AC was supposed to be prepared to take a pay cut to enable himself to come home, how many multi-million pound deals will we be linked with before the realisation hits home that MA will only spend a net £15m max.

  • 19 Santon03 // May 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/verfuegbaretrainer/basics_75.html

    Alberto Malesani and Luigi Delneri are available

  • 20 Indian Magpie // May 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    WWYCD

    sammy, i would be surprised if he made it on footballing abilities

  • 21 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    wwycd… yeah bigi has been ok. I have doubts about Vukic, his leg keeps falling off!

  • 22 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Spoof…So you’re not buying in to that this extra PL money will be spent? What has this regime ever done to make one so cynical…

  • 23 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // May 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Oh no! Ed was a year out. He writes several articles a day that you post your views on Indian. Overreaction. You’re being a prick

  • 24 Greebol1892 // May 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    AC is as good as signed, in my opinion. He will take a pay cut and seeing as he’s top of Pardew’s list, the club will pay around 12m. A step backwards.
    Watch out Bigg Market – here he comes!

  • 25 Santon03 // May 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    available german managers

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/verfuegbaretrainer/basics_40.html

  • 26 danuneek // May 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Andy Carroll is not worth £90k a week! I would prefer to invest my money in some other Englishman such as Tom Ince and then bring in another foreign striker for slightly cheaper.

  • 27 outsidethebox // May 15, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    indian magpie
    did you perhaps make a mistake ..its ED HARRISON…

  • 28 Santon03 // May 15, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    available french maangers

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/verfuegbaretrainer/basics_50.html

  • 29 Indian Magpie // May 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    outsidethebox

    I know, my apologies again

  • 30 WWYCD // May 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Indian Mag
    I disagree he has a whole load of ability its his decision making that severely lets him down

    Markaccus
    I am a big fan of Bigi still raw but head and shoulders above what we have produced. Vuckic I share ur views mate, I wouldnt be upset if he was sold this summer but equally I wont be upset if he stays for another season

  • 31 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Actually, if we are being correct… isn’t DR ED HARRISON

  • 32 martoon // May 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Morning Markaccus – limbering up for your first fight of the day – looks like Indian is in your sights :)
    Anyway to football matters – any thoughts on the team to play Arsenal – I hope Pardew doesn’t try the 2 holding midfielders because that didn’t work.

  • 33 Pushy Pardew // May 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Ibiza
    Howdy doody. Sunny days ahead. Have you taken on an apprentice since I last looked? Hope heis making you a coffee. Just wanted to say hello.

  • 34 ichrisho // May 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Big Man Andy back in the Toon… Pardew would be delighted to have him back – at least he plays for the shirt… we need some local talents coming through too – Has anyone seen much of Richardson? And is Colback really a Geordie?

  • 35 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    *ISN’T IT i meant lol

  • 36 Spoof // May 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Ibiza, thats a very good question, I have no idea why I am as cynical as I am, have you any idea’s as to where my lack of trust come come from lol

  • 37 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Morning Martoon. Nah i am keeping calm until i am seriously provoked. :D

  • 38 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Pushy…Blimey, thought you had well and truly deserted us!

    Coffee sounds good. Hope you’re keeping well.

    Martoon…If the general feeling is that there is little left to play for, then I would like to see him experiment a little more against Arsenal. Mix it up and have a go.

  • 39 John Tudor // May 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    available tea ladis
    http://thetealadiesinc.com/

  • 40 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // May 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Seriously need to get rid of pards he’s an idiot. No tactical nous at all and is training our players to be worse.

    On another note everything markaccus says is codswallop

  • 41 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Spoof…I have a theory. You hate southerners! That’s where it starts and stops. You hide behind changing the stadium name and lack of transparency from the board….but I know the truth! Go on embrace Mike, he wont let you down, honest ;)

  • 42 HullMag6 // May 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    As for AC coming back I’d welcome it even if it was to replace Shola, how many minutes without a goal from a set piece discounting Ba handballs? Despite what we think he would provide positive on pitch options and he just isn’t all about hoofball just because he’s physically intimidating.

    I’m back on the fence Pardew stay/Pardew go I really can’t decide at times. By earlier accounts it seems we have a too relaxed training regime our team need to act and behave like professional athletes so less booze and more application. If Pas de clue cant sort it out then regime change it should be 1 day off post match yes but then straight back at it.If we did change manager if a deal could be done I would go for either Rafa, Mancini or Girard. 21st century management style needed fitness, discipline and technique led approach

  • 43 outsidethebox // May 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Markaccus
    isn’t DR ED HARRISON…what?…lets admit we all make mistakes not least the management/coaching set up ..set plays a disgrace ………..throw ins a liability…over 400 corners ..lets see a few short with marv and benny cutting into box..
    lets see a 3-5-2 setup with debuchy and santon overlapping …these have to be practised ….lets start now

  • 44 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    PPB…. Silence. Your mother eats cabbage in wales! You confuse cats on a wednesday. Your dad looks strangely at pavements!

  • 45 Rotonda heights // May 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    Carroll going to West ham is the best news in ages for so many reasons, hoof ball and injuries alone stand out.

    Allardyce, Pulis and sadly yes Pardew even more so do suit his not having to play ”pass and move” style, but our genius manager may be forced to find what we really need, ie a P.E.A and Remy type striker with pace and skill now.

  • 46 donkey // May 15, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    as much as a lot of people wont like andy carrol back i would love it worth paying up to 12 -14 million for him. he allways played well for us even when he wasent on the score sheet and can make the greatest of defenders look very average

  • 47 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    outside the box… yes it should have said “Isn’t it dr ed harrison’. i did correct it straight away though.

  • 48 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // May 15, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    @Markaccus all true

  • 49 ichrisho // May 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    3-5-2 would work right? Kinda like Mourinho’s Inter… Debuchy and Santon as wingbacks would work very well IMO… and did anyone think that Mike Williamson had a good solid game at QPR?

  • 50 croftus5678 // May 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    <3 andy carrol avg striker but better than what we have
    <3 our new signings and they do need time to settle to the prem.
    <3 ashley and what he's done for the club.
    <3 pards for last season and getting us 5th and in europe (even though this seasons nothing too great to be proud of)
    <3 carr who's gotta be the best scout around
    <3 you guys (the ones with brains who are willing to seek the truth from both positive and negative sides to piece them together for a conclusion) and (the pards out crew who no matter what happens allways see the negative as they allways push past the anger point to the laughing point)

  • 51 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Markaccus…Is Adele PPBs dad?

  • 52 martoon // May 15, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Ibizatoon @38 – I don’t think he’ll experiment but I’m hoping we’ll play decent football. I think most would accept that we might get beat but hopefully with no pressure we’ll give it a good go and play some good football.

  • 53 Markaccus // May 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Rotonda. I agree with the Injury worry. He hasn’t managed a full season since he left. However i do not subscribe to the fact that AC = Hoofball. He certainly gives an option for that if things are not working. (several times this season we could have done with a big man). He has very good ball skills and also, like many big men, looks slow but is deceptively quick. Also we are DESPERATE for a genuine arial threat. Andy is a handful for defences.

  • 54 croftus5678 // May 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    @52

    yep thinking the same !
    i suspect at a guess we did better last year as no pressure was on us and this year a lot of expectation (but i’m no einstein so just a hopefull guess from me)

  • 55 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    martoon…Wouldn’t decent football be seen as an experiment? :)

  • 56 Davey_H // May 15, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Guys have you seen the Financial Fair Play Rules are being challenged in Court, by none other than the Lawyer who won the Bosman case, take a look…
    http://www.aljazeera.com/sport/football/2013/05/20135614252796573.html

  • 57 Rotonda heights // May 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    It’s funny how hoofball = if things aren’t working!!!

  • 58 AmericanGeordie // May 15, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    I’d definitely take him back.

    8MM transfer, 50M/week wages.

    If Carroll only has eyes for the Toon, those figures will make it happen (in spite of Rodgers’ protestations).

  • 59 toonaids // May 15, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    remy the rapist, sack that
    if carroll wants 90k a week sack that
    and pardew sack that
    however with 17th place getting 70million spuds this year their its going to be even harder to get things on the cheap, players are gonna smell the cash as well as clubs so we can be expecting to pay some wedge for a decent player

  • 60 CorkingToon // May 15, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    We need a good CF who can bully defences,imagine not having scored from a corner since 2011!!AC is the best we can get,so maybe pay a little over the top,but I say go get him!!

  • 61 Owldman // May 15, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    @22 do we get that extra PL league money at the start of the season or at the end, if at the end then you cant spend what you aint got.

  • 62 Owldman // May 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    @ 56 that lawyer may still be in business but Bosman is now skint and living on benefits,& does it state who the lawyer is acting for, surely not himself, what has he got to gain by it?




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