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Yohan Cabaye Or Ben Arfa Could Leave Newcastle This Summer

8:56 am, Tuesday, May 21st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 57 Comments

Newcastle will sell one of their top players only if a top bid comes in that meets the high evaluation Mike Ashley will put on them – but after the horrendous season we just had, it wouldn’t surprise us if Ben Arfa or Yohan Cabaye leave the club for a big transfer fee before September rolls around.

yohan cabaye   both hands up

Yohan Cabaye – could leave Newcastle this summer – fact

The truth is that Newcastle have always struggled for the last nine years to be a top six club, ever since the great Bobby Robson left the club, and during that time we’ve been relegated to the Championship, and last season we were again struggling against relegation.

So if a bid came in from a top club like Tottenham or Arsenal for either of the two top Frenchmen, we think it may be difficult for Newcastle to keep either player.

This is what Alan Pardew told the local press today:

“You can’t keep a player who doesn’t want to stay.” “Having said that, it’s going to be very difficult for any club to get a player out of here unless it’s a serious or big bid.”

The news last August was that Arsenal came in for Yohan Cabaye, and the manager said that turned the player’s head, and after having a difficult season on Tyneside, Yohan may jump at the chance of joining a team which has European football every year.

We hate to say this – but actions have consequences, and because we were so hopeless last season, we could see one of our top Frenchmen want to leave.

If that happens the least we expect is to get a massive fee for them – but we can hardly say Newcastle are in a strong position,.

Arsene Wenger after the win on Sunday said that being in the top four will help Arsenal’s recruitment in the summer – but they’ve been in the top four every single season that Wenger has been at the London club.

What does that say about Newcastle’s chances of attracting top talent, when we finished fifth bottom?

It’s not good, but that’s where we find ourselves this summer – that’s the stark reality.

We’re a big club because of the massive following and 52,000 home gates – not because we do well in the Premier League and win things. :(

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Tags: Hatem Ben Arfa · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours · Yohan Cabaye




57 responses so far ↓

  • 1 89Norcal // May 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Cabaye’s performances have been independent of the club’s, so I can’t see his value being hurt that much. He did score even more goals this season and is now recognized as a genuine class midfielder.

  • 2 Tsunki // May 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Repost as this actually seems more relevant –

    is not found to replace him, as said above its not simply a matter of moving the same crappy chess pieces around the board and getting another travelling manager with a knotted hanky on a stick and an aye for an end-of-season payoff. If Pardew was to be replaced we would need a quality step-up and have ‘stability’ with that manager. Look how Southampton have fared with Pochettino, if he had a better budget I am sure he would make a lot more out of his squad. It can’t be that hard to scour a decent manager from another league, and like most of our players, there have to be some bargains out there.

    Otherwise, Pardew has to stay. But if he does, I see a harrowing mid-table half-year and quite a bit of unrest in the dressing room. Some of our players will get ants in their pants if Pardew continues with his ‘no midfield’ strategy.

  • 3 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Rainrix… it would be because he saved him using “hoofswimming” instead of a flowing technical butterfly stroke.

    Scribbles is dead?!?! PARDEW OUT!

  • 4 geordie157 // May 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    will come down to how much people are willing to pay.

    Cabaye we could get 20mill for, Ben Arfa i’m not sure. Tiote after this season 10mill tops.

    If we sold one for big money and brought in 2 players with the money I’d be ok with it as long as that’s additional to the 3 or 4 we already need.

  • 5 geordie157 // May 21, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    If Pardew stays, then fine but bring in another coach to help with our attacking play.

  • 6 elpaso_geordie // May 21, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    I can only assume Pro Pardew brigade don’t watch NUFC on a regular basis. The football I watch every other week at St James’s is absolutely terrible. I would take a bad season like this one if we were playing some football ( bit like Wigan in last few year) but we are going backwards as a team.
    No Cohesion going forward at all
    Set Plays (free kicks n Corners) are a joke
    Few times we look to counter you will find our midfield sitting as deep as the defence on some occasions.
    Consistently picking favourites
    His continuing whine of injuries ( that aren’t that bad really – every team gets them)
    Obvious poor fitness and conditioning
    Woeful second half performances after his teamtalk
    His absurd comments about changing the game to bring SHOLA on ( 20 sub appearances 1 goal says how much he changes a game)

    This is to name a few things…. howay man he has got to be rid of .
    There is no reason from quality players we have, fanbase etc that we shouldn’t be between 4th n 8th most seasons playing some decent stuff to watch. ( although god help it if we qualify for Europa ever again)
    Pardew has destroyed all positivity relating to this competition and his record in domestic cup competitions is awful. Where has our Geordie passion for a winning playing good football desire gone ?????

  • 7 89Norcal // May 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Fingers crossed Ashley will be emboldened to invest given the higher PL payouts.

  • 8 Indian Magpie // May 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    geordie157

    You may be right abt tiote’s value

    But any good manager wd get tiote firing. Pardew has messed up his head with him telling tiote to calm down and not picking up yellows.

  • 9 Lilongwe Geordie // May 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Rotonda,
    I think Bale is slightly/well above the standard of player we have at the minute. I don’t see anyone interested in spending 50million on our players. We would struggle to get 15. I’m not saying Pardew has got it right, but AVB has that get out of jail card in Bale, and it has been used on numerous occasions.

  • 10 Tsunki // May 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    And as regards Cabaye, a team like Arsenal would play him in a better position with better players behind him to take up the responsibilities he is being burdened with now. HBA of course would be a fine luxury for the likes of Chelsea or Spurs. And thats if they stay in the Prem.

    I think there is a good list of players who would happily move if they were promised games in their favoured roles, not necessarily in ‘better’ teams either.

  • 11 Rainrix // May 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    Markaccus… Pards got tired when he reached the child, luckily pardew had his plan B, shoal ameobi.

    Scrabbles should be the face of the pardew out campaign, another brave soul lost :(.

  • 12 89Norcal // May 21, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    elpaso

    hardly and “pro-Pardew” people left here. Just neutrals and haters.

    I was pro pardew until about December when he made his job harder by choosing Jonas every match and making wild subs. Now I’m neutral.

  • 13 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // May 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Does anybody see a correlation between pretty football and success in the premier league?
    a few years ago man u won the title with ugly ground out 1-0 victories and low scoring draws.
    While Martinez took an ugly Wigan team in mid table to pretty relegation strugglers.
    Granted I would rather see us playing some nice passing football but would it be any more successful than ugly football?

  • 14 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Rainrix…

    Ap- “…shola did well in the end, you have to remember he was tired after doing 5 or 6 widths of the local pool last wednesday. He was cramping up at the end but he pulled through”

  • 15 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Oh i see…. “SHOAL Ameobi” imagine a whole shoal of ameobis!!

  • 16 mindshaft // May 21, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    I’d definitely sack Stone and Carver at a minimum, we seem to have no idea at corners/set plays and a lack of cohesion where players don’t seem to know how to run into space or channels and end up standing around in no mans land

  • 17 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // May 21, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    @15 we’re getting there

  • 18 Tsunki // May 21, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    Tiote’s problem is he has not been developed under this team. I don’t think he knows exactly where to put himself on the park, his dancing around in lost circles illustrates he does not know where his team-mates will be if and when he gains possession.

    I hate to be labelled in the Anti-Pardew Brigade, but I think that an assessment of this season shows that he is an incredibly slow learner, or just intransigent. There are no signs he will change his approach and that could mean a disastrous start to next season. Can we afford this? Can the club stand a drop in revenue, ST sales may not account for much but a full house is virtually all the PR the club has going for it. Wonga shirt sales aren’t seeming to be too impressive either. There are quite a few worrying signs along the way that we could actually have a backfire on the Ashley approach to frugal fiscal management , if he doesn’t get the balance right, we could go down the pot overnight. Its that easy.

  • 19 Indian Magpie // May 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    When i started watching in 2001, NUFC used to steam roll Spurs.

    Now look at the situation they are diasappointed at missing UCL and we are relieved at avoiding the drop.

  • 20 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Has anyone else got that cartoon chunky lass with blue/purple hair and a pink bikini on their screen? Id probably do her, like.

  • 21 Rainrix // May 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Markaccus… Honestly didnt spot that, damn mac autocorrect. Actually that does look quite clever. Ahem yes hahaha a shoal ‘a ameobi :)

  • 22 Indian Magpie // May 21, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    It is not Anti or Pro PARDEW

    It is what is right for the club.

    One day or the other Pardew will be sacked for these reasons only. Sooner (NOW) The better

  • 23 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Rainrix…. i find your claiming you did it on porpoise very fishy…. ok i will stop now.

  • 24 Rotonda heights // May 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    I can see both Cabs and Benny going if Pardew stays

  • 25 KayZey78 // May 21, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Stop selling our players in the press you g’damn retarded POS manager.

    The only reason you would tell something like that to the press is to try and tell everyone that our key players are for sale. What a farking idiot this guy is.

  • 26 Rainrix // May 21, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Markaccus… Your fish puns get my seal of approval!

    Sorry…..

  • 27 geordiemark // May 21, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    going to upset the applecart a bit here but for me both players can go, ill point out why

    ben arfa excellent player the problem with him is he gives the ball away yeah he scores brilliant goals but can we really afford having a player who like on sunday give it to arsenal more times then just simply passing the ball to a toon player

    cabaye another excellent midfielder but played way out of postion by a so called manager, hasnt done very well all season, has a nasty streak in him which could cause us problems if hes sent off

    the likes of toite has been told to watch out for the yellow cards and it has effected him a lot this season its spoilt his game plan so either he plays his normal game or sell him on I think really ashley will sell all 3 this summer I also think santon will be sold as well

    lets hope am wrong but got a strange feeling about the way we have played this season dont think the players are happy at all and if pardew stays as boss then expect more to go because they dont like his style of playing at all

  • 28 sparky55 // May 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    those words are absolutely correct ” you can’t keep a player who doesn’t want to stay”

    and because of that pr!ck Pardew all the good footballers don’t want to stay. Unless Pardew is sacked we will lose our better players…mark my words…the revolving door at the main entrance into SJP won’t stop spinning if pardew stays…it’s already happening as we speak

  • 29 Rotonda heights // May 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    tsunki

    I think the wonga thing could backfire spectacularly and rightly so. We had a bit of cred with Virgin a truly leading international brand replaced by loan sharks!!

    I see Llambias’ casino went bust and Pardew was out of work when appointed. Maybe NUFC is a charity for Ashley’s mates fallen on hard times!

  • 30 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    QUESTION TO ALL…

    I.would like to know who you think our BEST players are, and can you select our best 11 while playing ALL of them in their BEST positions. I personally dontt think thats as easy as it looks.

  • 31 elpaso_geordie // May 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    geordiemark

    Agree 100% mate

  • 32 Laurent Robert 32 // May 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    As Rotonda mentioned earlier, I too feel absolutely flat as a pancake and genuinely saddened that Pardew may continue. I really do. Gutted.

    I’m worried that he can pull the wool over Ashley’s eyes with his excuses.

    Throughout last year I’d come away from games saying we’ve played POORLY there and been lucky. It was standard. We got points though.

    I was still waiting for the change to start playing well. That change came when we played 433 for a few games, then he ditched it and went back to being disjointed. The man does not learn in all the years he has managed.

  • 33 Rotonda heights // May 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Sparky

    Too right. All our flair technical ”pass and move” players poor old Carr has painstakingly assembled will be out the door to be replaced by Jay Spearing types and hoof ball Andy. We will finish 12th and will be known as the new Stoke.

  • 34 JAMSHA // May 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Alan Pardew should discover in the next 48
    hours whether he will remain as Newcastle
    manager – DAILY TELEGRAPH

  • 35 geordiemark // May 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    ive never agreed with managers and coaches telling pro footballers how to play and which position there best at when the players in question know what there good at and what postion they want to play at

    I had a massive problem with an old manager once, I come on as a sub went straight to central defence which was my postion, I got the ball nutmegged one player got past another player put the ball out wide to our winger and we scored a goal, the manager then waited till the match was finished and then had a right good go at me by saying i should have went into midfield i said am a defender he said he manages the team and i said well you should know a defender doesnt play in midfield so after that i left and never returned to football that was the end of it its being wrecked by half witted so called know it all mangers who know more about football then I know about the back end of the —-ing moon :)

  • 36 Indian Magpie // May 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Markaccus – Here is my attempt

    Krul
    Debuchy Colo Yanga Santon
    Sissoko Anita
    HBA Cabaye Marveaux
    Gouff/Cisse

  • 37 Markaccus // May 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Rotonda…. the thing with wonga is an interesting one. The report on watchdog about them nicking dosh from teens was due to criminals.stealing kids bank details and taking wonga loans. Poor security from wonga and should they share some blame? Certainly. So should the kids banks.
    As for the general policy and interest rates of wonga…. people taking the loans are responsible and know exactly what they are getting into and when they should pay it back.

    If i decide not to buy a wonga shirt, it will be bacause the logo simply looks sh1te rather than political reasons 😀

  • 38 geordiemark // May 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    jamsha

    id make a move for blanc now if I were ashley, pardew divint bother about a taxi let the —-hole walk

  • 39 Rotonda heights // May 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Markaccus

    Krul

    Debuchy Colo M’Biwa Haidara / Santon

    Sissko Anita

    Cabaye

    Benny Cisse Marveaux / Goofy.

  • 40 Rotonda heights // May 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Indian

    Spooky !!

  • 41 Laurent Robert 32 // May 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Listening to Total Sport last night and John Anderson advocates keeping Pardew, yet he himself and Mick Lowes said a number of times last year along the lines of “we’ve won Mick, but widout really playing well again”.

    He even said yesterday that the attacking was poor, that we’re not overlapping the midfields, no one-twos and going past the forwards getting into the box etc..

    This is tactics John! And it happens every week.

    It’s staring people in the face. Coaching coaching and more coaching. Getting players to understand how to play in a system. At all points of the game they should know how they are going to to attack, defend and retain the ball as a team.

    This doesn’t happen.

  • 42 geordiemark // May 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    markaccus

    there nothing but loan sharks and be banned from lending money out at them crazy prices they charge and the government should be horse whipped for allowing it to happen me personaly no way am buying a toon shirt with that crap on it

  • 43 sparky55 // May 21, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    krul

    Debuchy colo, taylor mbiwa
    HBA, Sissoko, cabaye, anita, marveaux
    Cisse

    But next year we won’t have Cabaye, or tiote or Anita or HBA so we’re left with…

    Krul
    Debuchy, Mbiwa, Taylor, Hiadara
    Marveaux, Sissoko, Perch, Vukic Santon,
    Cisse

    not good!

  • 44 Lilongwe Geordie // May 21, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Rotonda,
    You really have to question the business/admin/organisation/financial skills of any bloke who can be in charge of a casino that goes bust……

  • 45 lesh // May 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Great to hear that news Ed. Sucess breeds success and it shows with Newcastle United. Well done Mr Pardew.

  • 46 sparky55 // May 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Lilongwe…you really have to question the managerial skills of a manager that takes a team from fifth top to fifth bottom in the blink of an eye with 6 new quality players added to the squad and question why he dropped the 4-3-3 formation that got us that top 5 slot for a hoofball formation aiming at a striker 6 stone wet through thereby bypassing our best player Cabaye

    Fcuking numnut!

  • 47 geordiemark // May 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    I like anita think hes an excellent player given the time to find his feet, he played great for ajax,

    ill wait and see who goes and who stays and who comes in this summer and with all the money from sky this season it will show how much ashley wants the toon to win things and have a positive approach to the new season

  • 48 AndytheScientist // May 21, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    I’d sell ben arfa tomorrow, if a half decent offer came in. He’s always injured, and blows too hot and cold, loses the ball too much, and doesn’t do enough going forward to warrant a place. Look at sunday he got in the box once, and blazed the ball over the bar, just like against sunderland. Other than that he did very little, i can’t see any top club being interested in him except maybe PSG. Which is why i think a swap for carrol is more likely, and i’d take that any day of the week.

  • 49 AndytheScientist // May 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    On similar notes, i’d take a good offer for tiote, unfortunately he’s had a dreadful season, so we’d be lucky got get 8-10M for him.

  • 50 Munster Mag // May 21, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Does any Pardew lover on here ( Mojo and others , and fense sitter like Ibiza ) really think that a player as technically good as Cabaye wants to work under a dinosaur like Pardew? This is the man who claims to study other coaching methods from the US etc, but in reality is EXTREMELY limited. And please, don’t insult my intelligence by saying the players like him. What else are they to say? Actions speak louder than words . Why would a player like Cabaye want to stay?? I don’t think HBA suits Pardews style but to a mpoint I can live with that. If we keep pards, he has to be allowed build a team ( a dull defensive, big one ) his way. Otherwise we are goosed again.

  • 51 Greebol1892 // May 21, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    No sh*t we risk losing Cabaye. No surprise if you consider this repeating scenario:
    Cabaye told to stay deep and/or comes deep to receive the ball quicker. Picks the ball up then cue Pardew shouting “Papiss, Papiss!”, then *hoof* to Cisse who has 4 or 5 players round him with only Gouffran making an effort to support. We lose the ball and the opposition attack…….. (and see Cabaye’s frustration grow during the game – EVERY game)
    “In my opinion” this is not the player’s fault!
    So I think Cabaye may be off but I think HBA wants to stay…… unless we get a 15m offer…..

  • 52 GenralHez // May 21, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Pardew must go and today is not too soon. Ashley is no dummy and I believe he knows Pardew is poisonous to the development of our great team. But just in case he has missed the plot we need an e-mail campaign to bombard him with the views of the fans.
    Someone out there must have an address that gets to him

  • 53 stuart no9 // May 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    who can blame ANY player for wanting to leave ? i cant .
    I said in a post on sunday 1 or 2 big players will go – maybe more .
    We have a manager who plays sh’t football , at a club with no ambition – they are just 2 of the reasons why ‘quality ‘ players will either , leave or will not even consider comin here. Sack pardew and keep the squad rather than sell the sel the players and keep pardew . -so it looks like the players are off .

  • 54 Dragon64 // May 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    I can understand getting rid of these players but would if not be better to bring in a new manager to manage these players correctly as Pardew has no idea what so ever. Yes if players want to be away not much you can do,but if the reason they want to go is down to the idiot that’s in charge the he has to go?

  • 55 toonluvva // May 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Of course we’ll lose either Cabaye or HBA this summer. I just hope that we don’t lose them both.

    After our poor season, combined with a distinct lack of footballing ambition from the coaching staff and any ambition in general from Llambias et al, who would blame them for going.

    I just hope that Ashley isn’t licking his lips at the prospect of a short term profit for the sale(s). Any decent CEO would warn Ashley that we need to be attracting talent not selling it.

    In a nutshell that is what is wrong with NUFC. I honestly don’t expect Ashley to be spending £50m on players and trying to compete with Manure etc, but a decent CEO and manager would be able to guide him into obtaining a stronger squad on a reasonable budget.

    Be prepared for the same old next season if Llambias & Pardew stay. The only question will be whether we will be able to escape relegation though!

  • 56 gazzaforever // May 21, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    And you call yourself andythescientist, you idiot? benny is our best player, he s not injured anymore and will get his form back and be our key player soon. What do you want, hoof football? Dam.

  • 57 hadthetshirt // May 21, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    elpaso_geordie @6 spot on.
    I don’t think losing Hatem would be that bad.He loses the ball too much and is a luxury we can’t afford.With him and jonas both in team it’s like playing with 9 men.I like Hatem but where pardew plays him is a waste.
    As for ugly football v pretty football.I would swap places with Swansea.They won the cup playing nice football,even bloody wigan won a cup and deservedly beat man city.Our best chance was in europe and pardew was trying hard to get us knocked out from round 1.Playing without a striker at all,was sacrilege.He has to go.We need a guy who can improve our players,and bring the best out of them.Someone not afraid to drop the golden boys.




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