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Alan Pardew – It Was The Europa League’s Fault

9:52 am, Wednesday, May 22nd, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 315 Comments

Alan Pardew has been interviewed in the Evening Chronicle today,  and Alan is saying we would have been much stronger but for the Europa League last season – but I thought our aim is to be in Europe every season?

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Alan Pardew - it was the Europa’s League’s fault

This is what Alan said today in the local press:

“We need to strengthen. Even with our best team out I think we would have finished below Liverpool.” “And we want to threaten them – so we need to improve.”

“It is a difficult league. We could have finished in the top 11.” “If you’d have said that at the start of the season, and getting to the last eight of the Europa League, you’d have said it was OK.”

“It is just the way we got there was unsavoury, and some of the performances.” “I genuinely think that without the Europa League our performances will be a lot stronger.”

But we didn’t finish in the top 11 – we finished 16th – so that’s why we didn’t do OK last season, in fact we did terrible in the Premier League.

It’s also a rather strange circular argument to say we’ll be better in the league next year, because we will not be in Europe.

If we want to become a top club we have to be in Europe every season,  just like the top clubs in England are, and we have to be able to negotiate two games a week.

The problem with the Europa League is that it’s draining with so many games, and there’s very little money in it – it’s the Champions League where the big bucks and the glory lies.

But to say we didn’t do well last season, because we did so well the season before and qualified for Europe – which is really what’s being said in a roundabout way  - is a little disingenuous.

We need to think a lot bigger, and fix the problems today about what went so terribly wrong in the Premier League last season.

The meeting today in Newcastle with Mike Ashley will cover all the points about what went wrong,  and then an action plan needs to come out about what Newcastle are going to do about it – including who are transfer targets will be this summer – so we can improve the squad.

What do you think?

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315 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Newcastle Brown Alien // May 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    I HATE YOU!!!!

  • 2 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    pardew turning up to work was to blame dipsh1t

  • 3 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Either

    Pardew gets fired today

    or

    Gets fired at Tomorrow by me

    Don’t worry only by a marble :o

  • 4 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    We could have finished in the top 11.” “If you’d have said that at the start of the season, and getting to the last eight of the Europa League, you’d have said it was OK.”

    What is up with this loud mouth, does he do press conferences Everyday?

  • 5 Spotlight Kid // May 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    NUFC PRESS RELEASE:

    Those journalists imprisoned in the bowels of St James’ Park under special executive measures following the printing of seditious material harmful to the regime of His Supreme Highness General Ashley and his prime minister Sr. Alan P. Pardew will be released in return for assurances that there shall be no re-occurrence of such allegations; on pain of permanent exile.

    MESSAGE ENDS

  • 6 JTOONJ // May 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    He gets asked these questions and gives his honest answer! He doesn’t just spew this stuff out cause he feels like it

  • 7 outsidethebox // May 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    meeting will be about alan p being given assurances money will be available to improve squad …as contracts start july dont expect any movement in transfer mkt till then …guessing Cheikh M’Bengue in franco de santo in and one top striker ..

  • 8 Lilongwe Geordie // May 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Torq,
    Morning. Yeah, Sage mentioned that he had heard one was scheduled for 6 tonight. Personally, I can’t see why one would be scheduled to say Pardew was keeping his job. Hoshley not to sack him, in which case thee Ashley not to sack him, in which case the press release may be cancelled.

    For me, Girard seems more likely. Budget friendly, history of working with youngsters and developing players. He spoke a few weeks ago (when we were still under threat of relegation), when he was rumoured to be in talks with a club, that he was willing to take on a top championship club as well. IMO, he was pointing at us. I imagine Carr has good contacts with him, and Carr is Ashley’s main man when it comes to football.

  • 9 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Well, Alan, here’s another theory. Being in the Europa league may have been the reason why we stayed up. It allowed some of our ‘fringe’ and ‘breakthrough’ players who ended up stepping up to first team in the Prem games to get up to speed a lot more quickly than a few runouts on snowy wednesday nights in the Reserve league.

    I would also point out that the better teams in the league are generally ones who end the season with silverware and decent cup runs in multiple competitions.

    The only way we could look at the ‘Europa cup ruined my job prospect’ idea of yours is from the perspective of fitness. We didnt have enough of it. Revamp the coaching staff at least mate. I am going to have to hide behind this bin lid for a minute….. PDC has the right idea on how to approach professionalism and training – although he’s a bit of a dictator, I think his heart regarding professional conduct is good.

  • 10 ilovetoon8788 // May 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    He’s not good enough to handle Europe and league.

    We are Newcastle United. Not Southampton. We are one richest club in the world and had good strength in depth from January. Yet we barely picked up points.

    His rubbish football and defending one goal leads was the cause. He’s clearly not good enough to manage us.

  • 11 Scottiedog // May 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Mmmmmm………..

    Chelsea seemed to manage ok!!!!!!!

    Please MA, please sack him!!!!!!!!!

  • 12 Jamseyd24 // May 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Liverpool,Spurs,Chelsea all played on Thursday nights and they all finished pretty well. Also they played more cup games than us, i dont hear their managers complaining about Europe.

    The man is a clown Pls Pls get rid of him

  • 13 martoon // May 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Indian – I believe Pardew is obliged to to do a certain amount of interviews a week with BBC, Sky, Chronicle etc. Also I suspect he does one interview with the Chronicle but they release quotes in dribs & drabs so it gives them something to write about for the whole week.

  • 14 ToonDownSouth // May 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Ilovetoon

    Actually, Southampton are one of the richest clubs in the world. Aha.

  • 15 one Tony Green // May 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Ed do we really need to do this agin today. We all know that Pardew needs to keep his clacker shut and that he is tactically inept so lets just move on. He is not getting sacked.

  • 16 toonbrother // May 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    This man has no shame.

  • 17 ilovetoon8788 // May 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    @tds

    I forgot to add. One of the most passionate fan base on the planet.

  • 18 TorqToon // May 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Scottie – I can see what you are saying! And I’m sure you arent comparing the two squads in the same breath! :-)

  • 19 sparky55 // May 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    don’t start me off!

  • 20 toonbrother // May 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    On another note Carroll would only cost 11.5 million.

    10 million to sack Pardumb
    5 million for Ogbonna/Oboabona
    11.5 million to buy Andrew Carroll

    We’ll be fine

  • 21 one Tony Green // May 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    6PM tonight Andy Carroll unveiled. He is back up here apparently.

  • 22 Munster Mag // May 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Despite what the dim witted Pardewites will tell you, we wont be all that good next season. No substantial progress wil be made with thois useless coach. Thing is does Ashkey want Europe , and at what cost? I think he’s happy enough to be lower than mid table once we are safe. That way, he doesnt have to buy many players, shouldnt face relegation threat ( fret ) , and keeps the SD flag flying. If we dont want to compete for Europe, then I think there is one conclusion. NUFC have no real ambition. This is a sad realisation. Billson , didnt you say Ashley was a great owner? I cant see it , not in ambition terms, which has to be the driving force behind what we do, surely??

  • 23 toon6toon // May 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Is it me or when ever pardew comes under pressure he blames everything else but himself
    his tactics have been wrong all year and when the team is under pressure he has not back up plan to change it.

  • 24 AaranD // May 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Really need to take a long look at our attacking options and the way we want to approach it next season. Cisse doesn’t fit into a hoof ball team nor does he suit a very technical team. He’s a poacher.

    This season its looked as if Cisse needs it on a plate to score ( not including the worldys he’s scored!) , and that’s fair enough if he’s putting them away. Because other than that he’s not much more than someone who can nick a late goal, he doesn’t have that dynamic pace or skill to beat players and his link up play is mediocre at best.

  • 25 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    ” we could have finished in the top 11″
    what the f”ck does that mean ? in means we finished in the bottom 9. ” if we had of finished in the top 11 and last eight ,in europa that would have been ok ” but we didnt finish in the top 11 , we fimished 5th bottom . This is the most stupid yet from pardew , it dodnt get any more ridiculous. T he man is mad , his head is shot, if he believes that .He is now trying to justify 5 th bottom, the same as he has been trying to justify the performences all season. this is why more and more people are starting yo hate him . Ashley is a mug if he keeps him after this disgraceful comment

  • 26 wynsleap // May 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    If Europe is not wanted as it interferes with our season and the domestic cups are a pointless distraction, what the Hell are we all here for?
    Answers on a postcard please.

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    I don’t remember AVB blaming the EL?

    …will be interesting to see if Laudrup will blame the EL as well (I am pretty sure he will a squad of 23 is enough to cope with the EL though)

    Excuses gets you nowhere Pardew, trust me!

  • 28 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    IF ASHLEY WANTS EUROPE, HE HAS TO SACK PARDEW TODAY.

  • 29 ToonDownSouth // May 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    I have to say, all managers make excuses. Someone posted quotes from all sorts of managers the other day and they all blame Europe, pressure, injuries, fatigue, and the alignment of the stars.

    It’s simply the fact that you don’t read 100 quotes a day from them, because Ed doesn’t rehash the same stories about other clubs every few hours.

  • 30 Bite Eat 11 + 4 - 5 + 15 // May 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Does anyone else explicitly remember Alan Pardew claiming he wouldn’t let our Europa League campaign affect our PL one?
    He mentioned Stoke as an example of how they played an entire second string 11 to try and preserve their PL form.

    Why didn’t we just play the kids, bow out gracefully and concentrate on getting as high as we could?

    Also say what you want but the quarter finals isn’t that much of an achievement.

    We beat Anzhi who were in truth the only half decent side.

    Bordeaux were alright as were Metalist but nothing special.

    It’s like getting to the semi final of the FA cup beating West Brom and Fulham along the way.

    Just another illusion given to the masses to claim that we had a good season.

  • 31 martoon // May 22, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    one Tony Green – I would have thought unveiling a new player today would be unlikely with all the other matters to be discussed. – Great name by the way I loved Tony Green :)

  • 32 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    A NUFC player’s Inner voice

    As a kid all i wanted to do was play football, Now pardew tells me that i am tired

  • 33 Hatem's better than Messi // May 22, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    This guy is unbelievable.

    Getting into Europe is the goal!
    The fact we struggled in the EPL is due to bad squad management and lack of motivation.
    Telling your players they are tired isn’t a good idea.

    I hate this idiot, hope he goes today.
    If he can only plan an EPL campaign with one game a week then he’s the wrong man for NUFC, because we want two games a week, with both cup runs and Europe.

  • 34 Bite Eat 11 + 4 - 5 + 15 // May 22, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Down south

    Leadership is about taking responsibility not making excuses.

  • 35 ToonDownSouth // May 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Beattie

    I didn’t say anything to the contrary. Just pointing out that most managers are just as bad.

    Someone the other day claimed that Martinez never makes excuses – interestingly I watched an interview where he blamed relegation almost entirely on injuries.

  • 36 Bite Eat 11 + 4 - 5 + 15 // May 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Some people see the glass as being half full, some see it as being half empty.

    I want to know why Pardew has served us half a glass of water in the first place.

    He can blame all the things he wants on why the contents of the glass are half what it should be but he is charge of the glass and so it is his responsibility.

  • 37 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Chelsea fans would have been overjoyed with games after games

    Next year when we get knocked out of domestic cups Pardew will love it when there is 1 game in a fortnight.

    He then might be organising closed door friendlies

  • 38 Bite Eat 11 + 4 - 5 + 15 // May 22, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Down south

    All managers make excuses, some are valid and some are not.

    Some of Pardews are valid but I think we all know this is not him finding excuses for the team, it’s finding excuses for himself.

    That’s the major difference to me.

  • 39 geordie157 // May 22, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    I said 10mill tops for Carroll, but I think now its time to bring him back and for 15mill I still think its worth it. It adds a player to the side who will give his all for the team, he adds power and height, we might score from corners again!!

    But as part of him coming back we need to sign a Siem De Jong type who can play just off of Carroll in the Nolan role. Ben Arfa and Wijnaldum out wide. Sissoko and Cabs in the middle sorted.

  • 40 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    My concern is, does he actually have a plan for next year? Has he figured out why we NEVER score in set plays? Has he figured out the round pegs square holes thing? Why are we so disjointed? Why are we so slow to counter? Why do we get so few scoring opportunities?

    Seriously, his best punishment (by MA) would be to hand him DVD’s of all our games, and make him watch them in a couple of sittings! Of course Amnesty International would then be on MA’s case for implementing cruel and unusual punishment.

  • 41 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Mr ashley , what do you want for NUFC,? Europe or relegation scraps,?? the choice is yours . please make the right one for the city of newcastle – upon -tyne .

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Indian…Chelsea players have mentioned the work load they have had this season, Cahill was making those noises months ago.

    I work with a Chelsea fan here in Ibiza and he too goes on about the amount of games they have to play.

  • 43 Transfer Sage // May 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    we did play kids in europa groups thouhg…made an average of 7.6 changes from what he considered out best starting 11 during those first 6 group matches.

    And on the press release, no idea, just heard than they have got one planned. Hope something is announced.

  • 44 martoon // May 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    I have to admit some of Pardew’s excuses are pathetic but is that not something we all do. If at work somebody tells you that you haven’t done something or you have done it wrong then most of us will have an excuse why.
    Not saying it is right it’s just human nature.

  • 45 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    pardew is useless, if ashley cannot see that he too is useless, all of that =envetual relagation turmoil

  • 46 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    I never thought I would one day be in Beattie’s Pardew Pogrom. :)

    Having said that, in a sweeping fence-sitting statement I would like to say that Pardew could stay with a change of coaching staff, a new training regime and a tactical coach. Oh wait, why would Pardew be still in there…..? Oh yeah – Press Statements!

  • 47 wynsleap // May 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Stuart No.9 @ 28
    Wouldn’t it be nice if Ashley or Pardew (or preferably both) would just come out and say EXACTLY what they DO want?
    If it is just to amble along each and every season and hope to stay out of the relegation zone whilst coining in all the TV money, sponsorship, merchandising etc. then we should know.
    At least that way we can all decide whether it is all a waste of time and vote with our feet.
    At present we are all being taken for mugs and being strung along. Ashley doesn’t talk at all and his puppet Pardew talks too much and all of that is CRAP.
    Both of them I wouldn’t trust an inch.
    When will the Toon fans ever get the club they richly deserve?

  • 48 Newcastle Brown Alien // May 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Just watched an interview from the first day of the 2011-12 season and pardew said cabaye was an attacking minded player and not defensive, so why does he play sissoko, a defensive midfielder higher up the pitch and move cabaye next to tiote, the man has lost all ability as a manager

  • 49 Douglas // May 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    I am sick of the negativity in the comments on this blog. You are all useless. We’re not going to de well next season. The world is going to end!

  • 50 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    ibiza-@42— yeah i expect a lot of players talk about the amount of games etc etc , as chelsea do ,however you are allowed to say what you want really if you win the europa cup, come 3rd in the league , get to the semis of the FA cup.

  • 51 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    heres 4 bottles of orimorph take a good trip

  • 52 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Stuart…I see. So it’s alright to whinge as long as your winning? :)

    I think the whinging on their part was to excuse the fact they got knocked out of the CL and weren’t doing as well in the PL.

    Yes they won the EL final, fantastic, but i doubt that was the clubs ambition at the beginning of the season.

  • 53 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    wyn @47 “you dont trust pardew or ash ” that is why i think pardew will be allowed to carry on today . 2 peas in a pod!

  • 54 alka // May 22, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    The sooner Pardwho is sacked together with some of his backroom boys the better. The comment @6 is rubbish because it is obvious that Pardwho loves the sound of his own voice and believes the c**p that he spouts. At one time I was one of those who stood by him, but not know.

  • 55 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    you’re* :)

  • 56 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    NBA – Boom! there you go! Baffling isn’t it? You have a player whose knockout punch is a steamtrain run across the entire diagonal of a pitch to rend the opposing team in two while your forward queue up for the final delivery and where has Pardew played him? within 6 feet of their penalty area. Sissoko doesn’t have enough space even get his wheels rolling. Cabaye – an orchestrating Midfielder who plays just forward from a defensive midfield picking up pieces and linking to an attacking fluid midfield, spraying passes across the front or linking with people like Marv and HBA. Where does he play him though? arcing behind Tiote of course trying to pick up anything that falls his way by chance, and having no option but to either try and do a run up the middle or a hopeful long ball to a well-marked AM. How many of those utterly wild long balls have you seen Cabaye fail at this season?

  • 57 low fell mag // May 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Enjoed reading the current blogs this morning,a lot better than the journal @chronicle.
    Thers nothing i can add , than has already been said.
    Hopefully today we will have the departure of Mr Pardew ,fingers crossed.

  • 58 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Whats the twitter buzz

  • 59 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    I am beginning to hate the sound of my inner voice ha ha :)

    I think I better say something positive to balance nature. Alan Pardew is great because he has an easy to remember first name. He has a full head of grey hair.

    Come on Alan, help me out here!

  • 60 geordie157 // May 22, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    West have enquired about taking Lukaku on loan then. How are they affording all these wages, Joe Cole is bound to be on a tidy sum and we know Nolan is.

  • 61 check the toastie // May 22, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    I feel sick with Pardew’s constant denial and lies, he is a big pile of rotting shite.

  • 62 Black and White with an army lol // May 22, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    it’s the FANS fault,
    it’s the EURO’S fault,
    it’s the PLAYERS fault,
    it’s the INJURIES fault,
    it’s the MA & DL fault,
    it’s the EXPERIENCE fault,
    it’s the FRENCH fault,

    but it’s never my fault quote PARDEW.

  • 63 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    ibiza @ 52-
    Stuart…I see. So it’s alright to whinge as long as your winning? —–without doubt ! i would be happy for pards to come out with the ridiculous , if he won the cup , league. europe or whatever – in fact i would join in !

  • 64 Dragon64 // May 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Can someone please enlighten me as to why people think he will be sacked today,tomorrow or the next day as getting bored with it all now?

  • 65 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Stuart…Seems a little odd tbh. Why would you need a negative excuse when you’re doing well? :)

  • 66 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    get these gimps out pronto

  • 67 Black and White with an army lol // May 22, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Dragon64

    mate it’s just all hope, i for one would love to see him leave but it will never happen, this so called meeting is only to prepare for next season nothing else

  • 68 Black and White with an army lol // May 22, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    did any like my post @62, good ain’t it.

  • 69 nufc 11 // May 22, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    I think it is a very very risky move to bring in a manager that has no idea about PL football, If it has to be a frechman why not Paterick Veria he has the making of a top manager always remmeber how Cesc siad he brought along the youngsters at Arsenal and developed them while Wenger took the credit Id love to see him at NUFC.

  • 70 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    For those that believe Pardew should stay, can you give me a reason that doesn’t in include stability, 5th or investment/injury.

  • 71 Ben3arfa // May 22, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Pardew is a moron , he is talking about emulating Liverpool when they have probably the most tactically gifted British manager in Brendan Rodgers whilst he struggles at playing hoofball .

    I mean who remembers when Pardew played Shola on the right wing against Everton at home and then played Bigi at the same position away to Benfica.

    How is any too fan supposed to convince me that he is the way forward when he comes up with shocking tactics such as these and blames losing on the lousiest things.

  • 72 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    What abt this for a headline.

    Next season’s second longest serving manager gets sacked!!!

  • 73 Lilongwe Geordie // May 22, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Carroll ruled out potentially for 4 months, would miss the start of the season and pre season training. Would take him maybe till November to get fully fit and up to speed for first team. Next please…

  • 74 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Did anyone see that stat that out of the 2500+ long balls we played last season only 2 directly led to goals?

    I think that’s pretty cool.

  • 75 Lilongwe Geordie // May 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    NUFC11,
    Viera has just taken up the role as head of the elite development squad at Man City, with the managers role being dangled in front of him there in the future. No chance of Viera.

  • 76 Black and White with an army lol // May 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Beattie25

    i think he should stay i heard there’s a janitor job going at SJP, just think he knows his way around sh!t. lol

  • 77 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Beattie…How about fear of what will come next?

    If Ashley doesn’t see the need to change manager, what will fans forcing his hand achieve? Most likely, a like for like type.

    Sounds exciting.

  • 78 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Sage, we did play some of the younger players in the europa, we were the first british club to qualify for the next stage also, unbeaten as well, Pardew stuck the massive boot in to the kids when we got done of brighton, there wEre also six senior players in that team who were awful that day but yet again got let of the hook, lua lua had santon in his back pocket no problem, tavernier was out if position a few times and got slaughtered of thar sickned me the way he blamed the youngins, when this season it has been the fault of his darling senior players who put us in the precarious position we got in, yea its been mentioned before but Oardew kepa banging on about the europa, every day i thunk more and more why he should go and go NOW.

  • 79 jimmysmith // May 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    When does the new season start, goddammnit!!!! I can’t possibly endure a moments longer wait……

  • 80 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Can we do the poll again to to see how many want Carroll at £15 million?

    Out until October perhaps November.

    It’s the same people that were clamouring for Danny Graham.

    A Swansea back up striker who was never PL quality.

    Why did we all want him?

  • 81 low fell mag // May 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    I posted before saying there was nothing for myself to comment on as i have enjoyed and agreed with all comments posted this morning.
    One thing i would like to point out ,and this is to our current manager,I also wish we were not playing in the Europa cup but the f-cking Champions league.
    Im sure Cabaye ,Sissoko,Kruyl,Cissie and Ben Arfa would agree with me.P-ss off Pardew!.

  • 82 NUFCarter // May 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    carlton cole has been released by west ham. Que for all the rumours stating that he will be coming to NUFC.

  • 83 yo-yo // May 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    There’s some very tetchy Toon fans on here this morning hoping or anticipating a change in shopkeeper.
    Well guys don’t build up your hopes that AP is on his bike because the odds are that MA will give him more time.
    IMO it doesn’t matter that much if AP stays for another 3-4 months as he will be on a final warning anyway.I still think he’s dead man walking even if he is only moving along at a shuffle.
    The compromise of new coachig staff (the deputy heads will roll scenario) is a MUST anyway.
    Pateience mon amis ….HWTL

  • 84 martoon // May 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Beattie @ 70 – I’ve just noticed you’ve changed your name back. To answer your question for me it depends who the replacement is – if it was, say, Benitez then I would be in favour. BUT knowing this regime it would more likely be Alan Curbishley or Mark Hughes so then I think well what would be the point? – better the devil you know.

  • 85 TorqToon // May 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    BREAKING NEWS!!!

    Pardew has been CONFIRMED as the man to take NUFC into next season! No longer at risk of job termination!

  • 86 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    got a feeling Pardew will get another year and next season we will probably have a west brom/swansea like season finishing 8th or 9th…..
    Seen all but one of our games this season in one capacity or another (missed the liverpool home game) and the main Huge problem with Pardew is that he approaches every game as if we are the underdogs! Every game the side is set up to best defend against the oppositions big threat! We have enough quality in our side to set up for games focusing on utilising our own big threats rather than subdueing the oppositions! Think AP thinks he needs to out tacticise every opponent, but our squad is good enough to win playing attacking football for 90 mins without basing the whole set up around how the other team play! Im sick of seeing us setting up for games against swansea, reading etc as if we’re playing man utd at old trafford, I rate our starting 11 as joint 4th in the league with Arsenal and Spurs, yet their players are allowed to play with more freedom! We have one of the quickest centrebacks i’ve ever seen in MYM, so there is no need for a containing deep defensive line yet we seem to set up the team after half time as if we are defending a 1-0 lead in the 93rd minute! For me Pardew is far too cautious to be NUFC manager and lacks the courage to let us attack! He needs to realise setting us up so cautiously saw us ship 6 at home to liverpool so could attacking teams really produce worse results?

  • 87 stuart no9 // May 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    ibiza – are the negative excuses made “before ” they do well just in case they dont ? ( do well ) you know what i mean ? but pards makes the excuses because he knows he is not going to do well, therefore he is always proved right. how many games , when we played away last season was he confident of winning ? none . we won 2 so he was actually correct 98% of the time by using negative excuses , which is not a bad record really

  • 88 lesh // May 22, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Something coming out on radio ncl soon, according to radio 5. Tune in and hear for yourselves. It may be most and I may have misgeard

  • 89 TorqToon // May 22, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Imagine if we saw that headline today!?! I reckon this blog would implode!

    As it happens….its not true! But had to liven things up a bit! Sorry lads! :-)

    However…don’t be surprised to see this headline. I’d be surprised if pardew is given boot?!

  • 90 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Torq…Where has that come from?

    Stuart…I really don’t know mate, just know there have been some. I know what you’re saying and I hope this doesn’t come across as me saying it’s good or right that he comes out with as many excuses as he does. Was merely pointing out that this isn’t just a Pardew issue as some make out, but I do get that Pardew is our issue and not what other managers do.

    Just a little perspective, which seems to get lost within the anger on here.

  • 91 lesh // May 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Sorry chaps, it was a cricket update from Durham!

  • 92 TorqToon // May 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Lesh – Don’t worry mate. Gonna be plenty of “is this it????” moments before the day is up.

  • 93 sirjasontoon // May 22, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Goodbye Alan you Fooking Prick.

  • 94 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    HATING this talk of emulating Liverpool! So far, i’ve seen pardew first mention emulating Arsenal, then it was talk of emulating spurs, followed by emulating Aston villa of a few seasons back, then we were emulating everton, now Liverpool?? Are we just basing our clubs philosophy on which ever flash in the pan team has a good season? what next? Swansea? West Brom! For FFS, we’re newcastle united! If you want to emulate a team Alan, how about emulating the way NUFC played with confidence, style and without fear under the reigns of Sir Bobby and under Kevin Keegan? Pardew spends far too long looking at other teams tactics, philosophies, strengths etc

  • 95 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Ibiza

    Do you not think that is a bad answer though?

    Everyone is scared of what will come next but sometimes you have to risk it for the good of the future.

    You can’t just settle for what you have and have no ambition.

    I understand why you feel that way but I don’t think myself Ashley would bring in a rubbish manager. The only times he has is through desperation and ambition.

    He sacked Sam Allerdyce because he had ambitom to tirn us into a good footballing side. he hired Keegan which many of us never dared dream about.

    Keegan left and slagged the club off, nobody wanted to work for Ashley so who did he chose? Joe Kinnear. This was out of desperation.

    Then when Joe went down with heart problems who did he plump for? Alan Shearer. Only in hindsight would you call that a bad move.

    Then we stuck with Hughton because the club was up for sale and he did really well and got the managers job full time. Then when Pardew became available Ashley tried to upgrade Hughton.

    There is nothing to suggest Ashley would lack ambition if he fired Pardew. It’s a similar mentality to those that say we’re a selling club, which we aren’t.

    For me we have sold players and tried to upgrade their positions the best we could and I for one would rather have this squad now than the one 3 years ago. The selling of back up players without reinvesting has been our downfall on the investment front.

    We just need a man who can do better with these players. We shouldn’t fear what comes next if we change, we should fear that by not changing we don’t move forwards.

    Sometimes you’ve got to take a chance and hope for the best instead of settling for what you’ve got.

  • 96 I I I // May 22, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    It was Pardews lack of management experience that resulted in poor form and poor team choices following Europa League games.

    It is his very egotistical and self righteous manner that even when he accepts blame, he doesn’t seem to believe it 100% himself.

    So the question is, what do the players and staff believe of his words and behavior?

    Does he make them stronger, or does he confuse?

  • 97 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    This is the problem for me – not that we will be facing relegatin again but a numbingly mediocre mid-table finish with no cups again. Pardew will not risk any competitive runs if it means another slide down the table. This is a waste in my opinion because Pardew is like a spooked horse, he will be hampered by this season’s experience and will play it safe to such a degree we will have no confidence to do anything else but cement our PL status. Of course, he could have a complete change of thinking if he had some advisors brought in, but I won’t hold my breath for that.

  • 98 sirjasontoon // May 22, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    TAXI FOR PARDEW.

  • 99 lesh // May 22, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    cheers TorqToon. I feel like an expectant father!!!

  • 100 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Unless MA has actually been lining someone up for his job in the last few weeks, by now I think Pards will be getting a probation.

  • 101 martoon // May 22, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Why do I keep getting a mental image of a board room scene like in the Apprentice. With Ashley in the Lord Sugar role and Llambias, Pardew, Carr and the coaches all making excuses and blaming each other. Question is who will Ashley point to and say “Your fired” :)

  • 102 Dragon64 // May 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Well waiting game. If he does go its got to be Benitez ?. Don’t understand chelski getting rid of him.
    As for A.C think there are a lot better options than him

  • 103 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    martoon – the problem here is that apart from Pardew, there isn’t another Hughton-style backup on the staff. If Pardew gets the boot it will be because he has already been introduced to the new guy. I think we would have had a ton more rumours flying about if that was going to be on the cards.

  • 104 TorqToon // May 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Anybody over that side of the world heard that big AC has turned down west ham deal and holding out for a return back to SJP?

    It’s the mutterings I’m hearing over my way and just trying to see if anybody has more info?!

  • 105 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Beattie…

    “I understand why you feel that way but I don’t think myself Ashley would bring in a rubbish manager.”

    Do you not think that is a more outlandish point of view than mine to back Pardew?

    If Ashley had greater ambitions then surely we’d have already heard that Pardew has been released and a new exciting manager would be en-route (I note this may still happen, but as things stand).

    I just don’t see where this feeling that Ashley will get a better manager is coming from at all.

    I get your point about sometimes needing to take the jump in order to succeed, but it isn’t me that needs to make that jump, it’s Ashley.

    Is my stance really that hard to get your head around?

    Would I prefer better to Pardew? Yes.
    Do I think we’ll be getting that? No.
    Do I think that a like for like managerial change is worth while? No.

    If someone could state a way in which to bring change that I thought made sense I may well go for it Beattie, but for me, complaining on a blog, which is all I could really do from here (oh yeah, I could write some strongly worded letter to the club…), is going to do nothing.

  • 106 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Torq….Don’t know about that, I do know he’s injured….again! :)

  • 107 marc // May 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    to many fans are on to pardew now he has to go for the good of newcastle in general not just football terms

    everyone in england knows how much NUFC means to the people up there and the last thing the club needs is for them to turn their back on their own club

  • 108 Hectorprotector // May 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    “the top 11″

    THERE IS NO “TOP 11″ YOU MUPPET!

    There is 11th, or ‘top of the bottom half’ if you really want to stretch the imagination.

    Its still 9th bottom to me.

  • 109 TorqToon // May 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Ibiza – Yeah up to 4 months apparently?! Although they said his last injury would set him out months and it turned out to be weeks!?

    Makes you wonder if it’s a tactic to prevent a sale?! Or even delay proceedings!

  • 110 Dragon64 // May 22, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    If it where true that he is getting sacked today or that it has already done and dusted there must be someone waiting to walk straight in other wise it would just be a none starter at the problems it would cause for building the team in the summer and to attracting new transfers before new season.
    So why doesn’t someone from the club stop all this crap and come out and say what is going on

  • 111 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Torq…A transfer conspiracy! :) I guess it could be, don’t really feature him dropping out of the England squad mind, unless he had already been told he features low on the list with Rooney, Defoe, Welbeck etc.

  • 112 ArtyH // May 22, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Lets face it a great manager can make a £5m signing into a £20+ signing and like we have a manager who can turn a £20m signing into a less than £5m signing. We need Raffa and I would rather blow all the transfer money on securing him than stick with Pardew and sign other players. As I think no matter who he goes for he will coach out all their natural talent and make them his robots of the long ball. His desire to resign AC is a statement of that fact!

  • 113 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    well if thats the case i rather watch the heed

  • 114 cadete // May 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Here’s a stat I found prior to our final game against Arsenal.

    Newcastle’s league performances after Europa league games: Won 5 – Lost 7 – Drew 1. Win percentage: 38%

    Newcastle’s league performances with no Europa League games: Won 6 – Lost 11 – Drew 7. Win percentage: 25%.

    The mans an idiot nothing but excuses get rid ASAP

  • 115 I I I // May 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Here’s a vision:

    Pardew to Stoke
    Raffa To SJP

    Love
    Wonga

  • 116 Jamseyd24 // May 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Dragon,

    Totally agree. I would like him out but If he is staying please say so, that way we can move on and start wasting our time dreaming about quality new signing. lol

  • 117 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Arty…Who is this £20m+ signing that Pardew has turned into a £5m- player?

    Are we playing the theoretical value game?

    Also, his desire to get AC back, doesn’t mean that he will try and turn every other player in to AC.

  • 118 toon22 // May 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    The one thing we will get from AC is he wont give up like the team did against Liverpool,and some other team .

  • 119 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Ibiza

    Fair enough.

    But do you not think that perhaps Mike Ashley thinks Pardew is a sign of him ambition and that he thinks (or thought) Pardew could take us to the next level?

    I think Ashley hired Pardew with the greatest of intentions but his faith has been misplaced.

    I don’t know if Ashley will bring in a better manager, you don’t know that he’d bring in worse, but he simply can’t not do anything.

    There is nothing to prove he wouldn’t bring in better or worse and I suppose it comes down to the fabled positivity that I have been accused of not having. (Not by you of course).

    Thinking positively I think Ashley would attempt to hire a manager to take us forward. I have little faith in Ashley but I believe he would do that.

    I truly think if he sacked Pardew it wouldn’t be for the sake of it. I am not saying sack him because he is poor, I am saying sack him because we can do better.

    Him being poor is more fuel to the fire.

    I think that we have learnt that when Ashley lets go of a manager or player it is with an eye on improving the quality. If he sacks Pardew that to me indicates ambition over stability.

    Also why is there so much fire in you today? That response was quite hard.

  • 120 hugotoon // May 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Oh for christ sake this is getting beyond a joke!! Why is he so arrogant and so self-affirming in his belief that he cant bring himself to say something such as
    - ‘some of my decisions this season have not been as good as they could have been and I am sorry for that’. For refusing to take any personal responsibility he is simply generating further disgust from the fans.

    Does anyone know the concrete details of his payoff, heard that its one years salary? If thats the case I have no clue how he can still be manager by the end of today.

  • 121 catchy in norway // May 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    dont worry

    we are still top 16 of the prem ;)

    the very best league in the world

    we have the best cup competition out side of the CL

    we have it all to aim for,,

  • 122 Tommyy // May 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    I lose faith and hope in this regime as every day goes by. Carroll back? Would be an act of desperation for me, a confirmation that we have people in charge who cannot adapt and will not bring us what we need.

    He’s a good player, as we all know, but he’s injury prone as it is. Slot him into our squad and he’ll never play as we watch Pardew mismanage the squad and grind us to a midtable finish and call it progress.

    We’ll fall behind yet more teams technically and tactically this season, of that I’m certain.

  • 123 Laurent Robert 32 // May 22, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    The more I hear Pardew drivvel on, the more he is masking his own incapabilities, the more it deflates me even further.

    He’s so delusional it’s unreal. Just like a lot of the fans of his previous clubs have pointed out and forewarned us about.

    There’s two hurdles here though. One, Pardew in charge or not and two, who would be brought in if he did go. To say we’re at a critical cross-road is an understatement.

  • 124 Ulster_Toon // May 22, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Blaming the europa league in any way is pathetic. that’s one of the few things I’ve heard pardew say that has actually got to me. He is full of excuses.

  • 125 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Beattie…Apologies, didn’t intend to come across as hard, might need to check my testosterone levels ;)

    I suppose I am just as frustrated as everyone else. Truth is, people throw information around like facts, when really they’re just opinions. No one knows for sure what goes on behind the scenes, what the actual intentions of the club are or what they actually feel our downfalls have been (if they even think there are any downfalls).

    It’s really easy to base an opinion on the idea that “surely Mike wants better”. If that is the case, then surely he will act? If so, then great!

    At the time of Hoots being fired, we were told it was in the name of progress. Chris had supposedly taken us as far as he could. No one agreed that Pardew was really any better to achieve more than him, but we did okay, so we moved on. You have to ask yourself why was Hoots really shown the door? I put it down to lack of control with rumours of player power getting a lot of attention. I can certainly believe it was perhaps a case of him not wanting to play to Ashleys orders, but this would be more guesswork.

    I guess to sum up, I would ask what it is you think we as fans should be doing to sort this out?

  • 126 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    wiccy pediea update
    newcastle united run by idots
    supported by human beings
    rapidly demoralized

  • 127 marc // May 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    ed can you create a poll on who wants rid of pardew i would like to know what percentage want him out
    simply because i cant see a reason to keep him so the poll should been 100%

    that way hopfully ashely may get wind that 100% of the club fans want his manager gone how could he ignore that

  • 128 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Morning…. I see everyone is still trying to write out Pardews P45 like they have a say in the matter. And they say Pardew is arrogant :D

  • 129 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Irrelevent because I think Pardew will be staying on, but I would much rather Rene Girard to Rafa Benitez! Admittedly Benitez has done well this season at Chelsea, but in the league he had the same win percentage as Di Matteo, they fell out of the champions league disappointingly and fair enough the won the europa league but have you seen the squad they have at chelsea?? A squad so strong theres no place for Lukaku, De Bruyne (one of the best players in germany) and Courtois (possibly the best keeper in spain) Not being funny but with a squad like that, with players like they have, surely they should be winning second class competitions like the europa? Think the fact that Rafa had to put up with so much abuse makes people think he’s done a better job than he actually has!
    Maybe torq or niafron will back me up on this, but the achievement of putting that Montpellier side together on zero money and winning the league over PSG, Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux etc is a far greater achievement than anything Benitez achieved with Chelsea or inter (admitedly the champs league win with a poor liverpool side was huge but that was a long time ago)
    Girard plays expansive attacking football and has a great knowledge of most of our squad, he’d be a great fit!

  • 130 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    So it’s Ashley’s fault, Llambias’s fault, the players fault, the match official’s fault, the Europa leagues fault………maybe next we’ll hear that the grass was too green, the ball was too round……….there has to be something or someone else he can blame rather than take the blame himself

  • 131 sparky55 // May 22, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    it would be much better to hire Rafa or giraud and tell them they’ve got no money to spend until such time they’ve got the team playing football again and then correctly identifying who they need going forward.

    their first job would be to convince everyone to stay which in my opinion they could do easily and then get them playing like all of us know they can

    If Pardew stays he’ll buy sh!t and set the team back yet again…it doesn’t make any sense at all giving him another opportunity…none at all

  • 132 leazes upper ( moved to the gallowgate ) // May 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Is this guy still in charge? Really? Howay mike do the right thing and get rid.Cant be doing with another year of negative tactics and players out of position. And the bs this guy comes out with its like he watched a different game to the rest of us

  • 133 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Ibiza

    I think we should be doing what we are doing. Trying to find a middle ground.

    If we can unite as a fan base then things from our perspective can progress.

    We can’t beging to do anything when we are so divided.

    The only way to find middle ground is to argue, debate and get frustrated and then hopefully the majority will see a way forward. We all want progress and ambition and hope.

    I think ultimately we need to try and become the first English fan base to own 51% of their club (like Germany) so that we have more say in our own destiny.

    Then we can argue about these things and actually make a difference. For the mean time we need to cause a noticable ripple in the ocean on things such as investment, ambition and progress. The only way to do that is to have a united fanbase, then once there is a swing one way or the other the murmurs of discontent can be become screams of frustration in which the owner takes note.

    We are the down and outs, the neglected and the opporesed (sounds very dramatic) but once we have our house in order we can make a difference.

    Pardew is just a small issue in the grand scheme of things but I feel if we can all just agree we could and should do better we may not feel as much anger, we may not see as much frustration and we may just make a difference.

  • 134 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    One of pardew’s finest quotes this season

    Teams with dressing rom problems don’t get points at places like WBA and WHU nd dont beat QPR Away.

  • 135 toonarmydownsouth // May 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Torq
    Haven’t heard that mate, just heard they are negotiating over wages, he wants certain performance related bonuses put in that whu aren’t to keen to put in as they think the assembled wage packet is a very good one

  • 136 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    That man Pardew does not ever fail does he, every day something comes out what he has said the totally winds me up every single day.

    This time yet again the Europa League patter, will he stop blaming anything but himself(I doubt it) then he say we would have all been happy with a 10th place finish and quarter final of the Europa league to be honest!!! aaarrrggghhh.

    So this season hes looking top ten so we don’t qualify for Europe, just to satisfy his needs, what the hell do we support this club for, im not standing for this attitude, he has took my frustrations to new levels this morning, you selfish selfish man!

  • 137 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Pardew wants experience

    Give him Kuqi and Kevin Davies

  • 138 Griff-toon // May 22, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Hello everyone,

    How are we doing today? Another good day to be a toon fan?

  • 139 Toon_Army // May 22, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    I was ecstatic when we finished 5th given the years we had in our recent history BUT a club like NUFC should in no way of form be where it is today!!!, we have the 3rd largest stadium in England only beaten by the Emirates and Old Trafford, we also have one of the largest worldwide fanbase’s in the Premier league. Our beloved club SHOULD be challenging for Champions League Football every year and European football is a MUST.

    My verdict is still out on AP, I do think he is restricted by the regime at the club and losing Ba mid-season was a big blow as he was our in form striker at the time even when we were not playing very well.

    The Players also have to pick up some blame here, I don’t see the commitment I saw last year and for me players like Cabaye are over rated (sorry fellas) we should sell him at the next opportunity, He takes all our corners and not once have I seen him manage to hit a team mate with the ball, it’s either into the keepers arms or ricochet away before it even gets in the box, he does have a eye for a pass on occasion and gets away with murder on the pitch to his benefit but for me he appears very neutral (maybe it’s the way AP plays him, BUT top players should be able to play anywhere).

    You gotta love benny, I hope he stays at the club, he reminds me of a little kid on the playground everytime he gets the ball and WE need that PASSION, he is nowhere near the finished article though and makes a lot of mistakes so I am hopeful he will stay.

    Cisse has been beyond useless this year, I dunno if he switched his cornflakes this year but whatever he is doing isn’t working for him and I desperatly want to see the player who everytime he was near the ball I was thinking GOAL.

    I luv Tiote, the guys a beast and you can’t drill that into a player, sure he is still a bit undisciplined but in front of the back 4 I can’t think of many better.

  • 140 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Why are we being linked with more central midfielders?
    We have no wingers at all at the club and almost a third of our squad is made up of central players

  • 141 Mark the Mag // May 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Last straw for me – Pardrew has spoken with Sam Alladyce and they both agree that the fans are to blame for all the clubs problems over the years. He basically said us fans are bi-polar and that our emotions are over the top when we are struggling.
    Yet it is these misfits who revel in the glory when our whole city is buzzing when we do well.
    Absolute morons had a little bit respect left for Pardrew, I genuinely wanted him to stay for the duration but to quote fat sam is an utter disgrace

  • 142 Griff-toon // May 22, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    I whant to give you all a challenge!

    What would you guys have said to the jurnalists if you where in Pardews position? Write it as if its your comments. I think its interesting to see what you think is the right way to answer the jurnos.

    Let the challenge begin!

  • 143 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Griff-toon

    What’s the question?

  • 144 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Beattie…Then why the constant Pardew complaints?

    If you can see a bigger picture, then shouldn’t we focus on those issues?

    Start putting together something for fans to get involved with, I’m sure a load of people would be genuinely interested in hearing an actual way forward rather than the repetitive Pardew out calls.

    Sorry, I’m cutting my response short as I am running out now.

    We will get back to sorting out NUFC later ;)

    Take it easy everyone.

  • 145 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Ibiza

    Pardew out is the first step.

  • 146 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Okay so what are our goals for next season? Top 12, top 17? or anything else.

    Please tell me if you see that he has mistakes, how do you see him correcting them.

  • 147 Tommyy // May 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Sam Allardyce should not say anything regarding Newcastle. He was not here long enough and offered nothing. The reason we are here is due to a number of management appointments that were made with no research or plan. None of the managers we have had appointed recently should have been because if the damn boardroom.
    If they actually listened to the fans and appointed someone who can coach and attaching side that plays competitively then we would not have a problem whatsoever.
    How this has failed to have been addressed amazed me.

  • 148 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Beattie…To fans taking more control and having a say? I respectfully disagree.

    As my earlier point stated, my belief is there is more an issue with the clubs ambition, so if Pardew were to be replaced, would it be with anything better and where would that actually get us?

    Peace out hombre!

  • 149 Griff-toon // May 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Beattie25

    Well the question that Pardew seems to answer a lot is why have we had sutch a poor season, and what happens from here?

    I just thought since a lot of you dont like the answers Pardew gives I would like you to write your own that you feel you would give in his possition.

    And have in mind that you too whant to keep the jobb, be successfull at the club and please the fans.

  • 150 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Have to be fair handed with Pardew and his comments – the management at SJP should cut down his press chats so he can reign in the waffle. He has to say something when he is being interviewed and with the best will in the world he cant come up with new sound bites every day.

    I would prefer it if he just did a decent interview pre and post match and be done until next time. all this infill is just sticking him in the firing line.

    Getting tired of the anti – Pards stuff now think I will just wait and see how it pans out, probably over the course of a pre-season no doubt.

    Anyway, on the subject of Girard, it looks like he was on course for another strong season but had a bad last third, anyone with an ear to the ground got any cues as to that run of bad form? Even so they finished 8th didn’t they?

  • 151 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Indian

    Pardew made the same mistakes all season long and failed to rectify them, he’s done nothing but blame everything and everyone else for the clubs failings.

    Not once has he stood up and taken responsibility for this disastrous season so how can a man change if he thinks he hasn’t done anything wrong

  • 152 ToonDownSouth // May 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Mark

    That was from a few days ago, and you’ve completely blown it out of proportion ten-fold.

    He did not say that the fans are to blame for the clubs problems. He did not call the fans bipolar. Unfortunately that’s exactly the kind of hysteria that papers like The Sun hope for.

  • 153 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    I agree JB

  • 154 Munster Mag // May 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    I’m sorry guys, but on what basis was Pardew given the job anyway? What was in his past that Ashley felt would be good for us? There’s nothing of note there – except that he know them, and got the job unopposed. This says a lot about “the greatest chairman NUFC have had” ( Jees westwood and McKeag are not great competition though eh ? )

  • 155 mindshaft // May 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    The trouble with Pardew is that a poor game or a defeat doesn’t matter, he almost expects to be beaten by the top 6, sets his teams up for a draw and has no plan B.
    Demba Ba gave a good interview in the standard where he said that it’s different at Chelsea as everyone really feels it in the dressing room if they are beaten and especially against the top teams whereas at Newcastle, defeat was almost expected and the dressing room wasn’t that bothered when it happened.

  • 156 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    How high would we have finished if BA was not sold – Probably would have won the league and the Europa

  • 157 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Sadly…. whoever made the comments, you can’t really argue with them. Football fans in general are bi-polar by nature when it comes to thier team, and Newcastle fans are no exception. Fans put pressure on teams and managers, and sometimes go to far. Thats just a fact of life in the world of football. It was probably only pointed out here because Toon fans tend to be one of the more vocal groups.

  • 158 onepeterb // May 22, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    JB

    We haven’t been linked with anyone yet – central midfield or elsewhere – except by “FIFA Managers” on line.

  • 159 Griff-toon // May 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Markaccus

    The riots didnt help our reputation either

  • 160 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    tsunki – might be because he lost his captain and star player in MYP?? Also Nicollin (chairman, mad as a hatter) announced that Girard was leaving early on which usually undermines a dressing room, add that to problems with Belhanda wanting out in january and playing with a face like a smacked ass for the last 10 games of the season! Losing MYM was the big one though, he was their leader and star! Imagine us last season when we finished 5th without collocini and you get the idea

  • 161 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Tchunki! Pardew gets it in the neck because he feeds us every day with his daft statements, as cantona says the seagulls follow th trawler!!! don’t go out to fish no seagulls, we like information coming through, but not continual excuses every day, hope you are still of the pasties chunky!

  • 162 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    onepeterb

    Siem de Jong, James McCarthy are two of the central player we’ve been heavily linked with

  • 163 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Why pardew is a poor manager

    Against swansea home – SEnegalese FA’s fault, yeah he didn’t send him why who knows some fake injury perhaps

    Against Everton Home – BA sold that day – he can’t change tactics so put shola n the middle and Cisse right. Coz he has nothing more to contributed

    Managing witha a straitjacket

  • 164 Mark the Mag // May 22, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Tommy
    Too right Alladyce should keep his mouth shut but for Pardrew to actually quote from this man who is despised by some nufc fans is beyond belief. Remember when Liverpool stuffed us under him and the crowd were singing u don’t know what your doing, that’s the only match I have ever walked out of and I never missed a home match since 1991.
    They think they can patronise us because we havnt won anything but they forget that we have been one of the best sides the PL has EVER seen under Keegan and we have experienced highs under Bobby that they can only ever dream of. Bunch of *****

  • 165 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Griff… yep, that just backed up their argument. The general populace of Newcastle were totally mortified by the events at Wigan, and in Town when the scum beat us. Against the scum, we were gutless. Fine, take it out on the team/manager/board. Don’t wreck your own city.
    Against Wigan… two of the biggest shockers decision wise this season during the game, (tackle and hand ball goal) robbed us of a point imo, but that is not the town of Wigans fault, nor was it their fans. Wonder what the travelling fans that trashed those amateur games thought they would achieve?

  • 166 Toon_Tom // May 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    !Lets Give Pardew more Time”

    Biggest Home Defeat in our PL history

    Biggest Home derby defeat in our PL history

    Most losses ever in our PL history

    Worst run of form over a 10 game period

    (again) No goals scored from a corner – worst in PL season

    Statistically the worst manager to have 50+ games in charge of NUFC

    Lost 3 consecutive home games in a row (first time since 1987)

  • 167 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Allegri for NUFC

  • 168 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Griff toon

    If it were me I’d have said something along the lines of:

    “We could get into the details of why we have failed to hit the targets we demand here at Newcastle Untied but if I was to do that in the media then my every word would be twisted and the fans would not get the right message I want to convey. So instead of blaming one thing and many things all I will say is that it was not good enough. No, it was abysmal. Myself, Mike and the rest of the management team will sit down and comb through every minute detail, every part of the season will be assessed and every action will be made to ensure this never happens again. I know the people of the north east and Newcastle fans in general don’t appreciate excuses, they demand action and that is what I can guarantee them. I will not excuse anyone or anything from this season, all I can do is promise we will all do our very best to ensure this never happens again to a club like Newcastle United. Once we have gone through the meetings and planned for the next season we can talk more in details about where we think we went wrong and how we will address that. Until then I apologise to everyone connected with Necwatske Untied on behalf of the management team and the playing staff and I ask that you remain patient and trust in us to put things right next season.”

    That would’ve been ok I think.

  • 169 check the toastie // May 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Sam Allardyce the Man who brought us Geremi and Alan Smith, thick f#ck

  • 170 ToonDownSouth // May 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Markaccus

    Actually the Wigan stuff occurred before the game!

  • 171 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    check the toastie

    Allardyce also got us – Cacapa, Rozenhal and Viduka

  • 172 Mark the Mag // May 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    toon south
    yes mate they were not the words quoted but I am reading between the lines and that is what he was getting at. I am furious at it because he has been speaking to a manager who tried to imprint the same unimaginative dross on us as alladyce did.
    They do talk about the buzz around the whole city when we do well and how great it is but when they mess up its our fault again. No one wanted him to succed more than me but he is digging his own grave with comments like that.

  • 173 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Most fans making lists for 10 years.

    Most statistics posted on one blog

    50% of sandwiches contained bacon (except on tuesdays)

    42% of fans prefered coffee while pardew bashing, 45% tea, 13% undecided.

    My fecal mater was only beige for 38% of my dumps during the season.

  • 174 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Beattie25 @167

    He might have got sympathy too, and some time

  • 175 Sack Llambias // May 22, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    I am for maintaining the status quo which means we don’t end up with another JFK. Then we would be wishing for the devil we knew. The vast majority of fans would be thrilled if Ashley announced that Benitez was replacing Pardew thats a non issue. In the meantime with Ashley’s reputation let’s give Pards another 6 months to get it right with his players. Pulis was sacked because he spent £ 80 million and in a full season failed with lowest points total.

  • 176 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    looking at the squads that were relegated, actually think Wigan have about 7 or 8 players that would contribute to a squad! Only really McCarthy that would add to a first 11 but as far as a squad goes, McArthur, McManaman, Di Santo, Kone and Maloney would all be fine squad players! Reading only really have that Young GK, and QPR only really have Hoilett and Taarabt that would be worth looking at as they are young and can improve! Julio Cesar looked good but is the worlds highest paid keeper… Really don’t think there is much value to be had in adding premier league experience, any player good enough to get into our starting line up would cost 15m + or would be over 30

  • 177 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    TDS oh well thats even worse :D

  • 178 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Cheers for that reminder jayphoto I actually recall a lot of that stuff now come to think of it. Nicollin is a complete brush like ha ha. Shows what he has to contend with.

    beefman yep still steering clear of the steak bakes :)

  • 179 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    OK I will play the ‘what would Pards say?’ game – Devil’s Advocate time.

    Press – Why did we have such a bad season Alan?

    AP – Well the board and I agreed we had a good core of decent players and some excellent young squad members coming through, we thought we could do at least as well as last season. Then the injuries started to take their toll, more so than we expected, and by the time we realised it had got beyond control, we had missed a transfer window. However we held tight and the board agreed we’d dropped a clanger, so credit to them they splashed out and got just about all the targets I wanted, except Remy who was supposed to replace Ba who was always determined to go, unfortunately. What I didn’t foresee was that the squad had been mashed up so much with the change of personnel that I had a lot of trouble fitting players into correct positions and so tactics went a bit out of the window. The last third of the season has been a bit of a nightmare, and truth be told, the Europa really showed us up for our lack of fitness. It was all batten down the hatches to get us to the end of the season.

    Press – What do you see needs to be doen for next season?

    AP – Well, the Board and I have agreed I struggled a bit to get on top of the situation, but they have given me time to prove I can learn from an emergency situation should we face one like that again. However, so that we don’t have to, we have set out plans to bring in a few more staff in the coaching department, look at our training and fitness regime, and get a couple of key players in, and look really hard at the problem we have with set plays, corners and general delivery into the box. It will mean spending good money, and we will have to put some of that money where our mouth has been regarding the academy especially. Next year I see us not only as a top 5 side but we are going for a cup flat out as well. Its ridiculous that this club has nothing to show for the support its fans have given it and this ends next season.

    How’s that?

  • 180 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Beattie @ 167

    Do you not think that those words would have been twisted too? Every thing he has ever said has been disected to make it sound the most negative way possible. Just a thought.

  • 181 WWYCD // May 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    This back him or sack him conversation has gone on too long without an official statement from the club to be unfounded imo

    Something’s going on and we won’t find out what until everything is sorted this little meeting is Ashley’s kangaroo court I’d imagine

    Part of me wants Pards to go just so the conversations can move on

  • 182 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    funny thing is, I think Pardew would do really really well with Stokes squad! Even to a certain extent, evertons very physical workman like squad! Wonder if the fact that his job isn’t crazily secure has meant he’s got his eye on either?

  • 183 Mark the Mag // May 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    They think they can dictate to us because we our the joke club of the PL. Fact is yous are probably the most educated fans in the league and for me this blog proves it. Its been bad management to blame not us fans.

  • 184 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    WWYCD

    If he is sacked then we can all move on but if he stays then it’s gonna be nothing but open warfare on here for a very long time :(

  • 185 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Tsunki, That looks good….. but i wonder how it would be taken by fans??? again the whole “no matter what he says it will be trashed” concern is in my mind :D

  • 186 sparky55 // May 22, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    any news on when the phone-in is due to take place…has that now been cancelled for good or simply postponed.

    I don’t think he’d dare do it now

  • 187 Nufcjoss // May 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    the brilliant manager will therefore next season play for the 9′th in the league..

  • 188 sparky55 // May 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    for stoke or newcastle??

  • 189 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    sparky, probably will only do it now if he doesnt get booted out.

  • 190 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    So Tsunki…what will AP’s excises be when he fails in his department once again? :)

  • 191 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    *excuses

  • 192 WWYCD // May 22, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    JB
    For what it’s worth I think he will stay and I will retire from the blog ala Beattie (except without the come back tour)

  • 193 Fumaca // May 22, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    I just don’t understand this Europa league excuse. I watched nearly all the Europa league games and was generally disappointed that we rested so many players.

    I’ve checked the stats and really there’s only the southampton away fixture and the derby where I’d say fatigue could be used as an excuse.

    atrimos home, lost to chelsea away after (expected loss)
    only cisse started both

    maritimo away beat norwich after (no problem)
    only defenders played both

    bordeax at home, lost to man utd home after (expected loss)
    cisse tiote cabaye

    bruge home, beat west brom after (no problem)
    only santon played both

    bruges away, lost to west ham away after (rested plenty)
    only williamson played both

    maritimo home, lost to southampton home after (possible case)
    5 starters in both

    bordeax away, lost to fulham after (rested all)
    rested whole team

    metalist away, beat southampton away after (no problem)
    collocinni, sissoko, cisse

    anzi away, beat stoke home after (no problem)
    cabaye

    anzi home, lost to wigan away after (possible case – tho ref decisions more costly on the day)
    Santon, S.Taylor,Yanga-Mbiwa, Tiote, Marveaux, Cisse, Sissoko

    benfica away, beat fulham home after (no problem)
    Simpson, Santon, S.Taylor, Yanga-Mbiwa, Cabaye, Marveaux, Cisse

    benfica home, lost to mackems after (possible case)
    Yanga-Mbiwa, Cabaye, Cisse, Sissoko, Gutierrez

    Now ok, if the two games I had mentioned gave us an extra 6 points we’d have been in 9th place. But what if we’d made it to the Fa cup semi or final, League cup final. We’d have had to play back to back fixtures with a strong team as we did in the later rounds of Europa.
    Didn’t hear Martinez blame tiredness once and he had to field almost the same team in every game!

    Personally I think it was the tactics to blame.
    Most long balls when you have a team of technically gifted players such as Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Santon, Anita and a striker in Cisse (who luckily stayed fit all season) that thrives on through balls and low crosses in the box. We should be playing the ball on the ground.
    I could accept finishing 16th if it was because we were transitioning into a modern free flowing team, but to do so on long ball tactics, we’d might as well stuck with Alladyce.

    I’d like a Brendan Rodgers type who wants to, and has a record of, playing attractive football, even if it takes time.

  • 194 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Hire that Beattie guy Pards!

    “There’s no denying we’ve had a poor season and I as manager take full responsibility. But, I have an outstanding set of players here, the best I’ve ever worked with. I have confidence in them first and foremost, so yes, next year we will put it right. Mark my words. And we will start scoring from set plays too, you’ll see :)

  • 195 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    WWYCD

    If he stays I’m gonna start watching equestrian

  • 196 Sack Llambias // May 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Stoke are after Martinez. He along with those championship managers out of the play offs were suggested by many to replace Pards. Why would we want a failed manager. Martinez has flirted with relegation season after season. Only replace if we can get a better manager.

  • 197 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    @jackbutler equestrian? you mean when he signs Carroll back i take it

  • 198 hadthetshirt // May 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Thank god we didn’t go down then.Can you imagine his excuses if we had gone down and having to play twice a week every week.It doesn’t bare thinking about.Lots of Taxi’s free in town centre just now.Bon Voyage

  • 199 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Sack Llambias

    PArds has a worse record than Martinez.

    Martinez won the FA cup and pards the Jonstone paints trophy

  • 200 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    I would hope that, once a decision either way has been made, then everyone, no matter what side they are on, would move on to something else. If he goes, i will gladly talk about who is next. If what i fear will happen happens, and he is replaced with some other random, and not someone very good, i will be annoyed but i wont be on here b1tching over it.

    If he stays, i would hope that people don’t just come on every day to say “we’re doomed, pardew is cr@p, fans are to blame for not protesting, lets sign this pointless petition” et.c. Instead, they could try to be positive over who we might sign and maybe even a switch in tactics. you never know :D

  • 201 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    I would take Martinez any day of the week (simply because his philosophy correspondence to my own and I think he could do wonders with a great defense and a prolific striker)

    …each your own!

  • 202 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Here’s a good video for you JB. The rest of you too!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVI4fyXo9cY

  • 203 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    jayphoto

    No mate if Pardew stays its gonna be impossible to talk about anything else on here so I can’t see me doing anything more than keeping a watching brief on this blog while open warfare takes over

  • 204 hadthetshirt // May 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    If we got Martinez then at least you know we will try during the month of May,shame he couldn’t get his team to play the rest of the year.This guy may be better.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22381080

  • 205 AshtreeKid // May 22, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    not wanting to wind anyone up anymore but I know for a fact that Pardew has moved out of his property in Newcastle (although it was only rented).

  • 206 Sack Llambias // May 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Martinez got Wigan playing Championship football. With no guaranty
    of keeping his better players and playing Premiership football anytime soon.

  • 207 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Like I said each your own! (I don’t really expect us to agree on Martinez nor Pardew)

    …many of us disagree on the very fundamental of football anyway!

  • 208 mindshaft // May 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Martinez is not an upgrade on pards, will definitely have us playing better football although we’ll end up fighting relegation – we’ll just look prettier

    Think we can safely say Pards is here for at least the first 10 games of next season, board haven’t come out and said anything as their is nothing to say – they won’t pay him off or pay decent wedge for a decent manager

  • 209 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    AshtreeKid…you know he cannot rent forever ;)

    …and Colo’s house is up for sale!

  • 210 Sack Llambias // May 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Martinez lacks ambition which is why he will be happy to stay at Wigan. All show and no punch he would have us relegated to complete the double. He is the housewives favourite and proper fans see him as saying the right things but clueless when things go wrong. Financially Wigan are in financial trouble and need to sell to survive.

  • 211 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    jesperfuglsang

    There was a special on BBC Wales last night about the rise of Swansea from Third Division to where they are now and everyone spoke of Martinez as a man who players love to play for as he’s trusts them unequivocally and insists that they always play football and use the ball in the right way

  • 212 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    “proper fans”! (dear lord are we going there again)

    JB…that doesn’t sound all bad :) Take that talent and pair it with a entertainable football philosophy and I’ll be proud to call myself a NUFC fan again (bear in mind not a proper one of course…)

  • 213 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    jesperfuglsang

    It sounds good mate, but would still be a massive gamble if set against the record of Benitez though Liverpool were willing to take that gamble before appointing Rodgers. It will all come down to the ambition of Ashley and where he wants to take us

  • 214 Sack Llambias // May 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Jesper
    I meant not housewives who think he’s lovely and don’t judge him on football matters.

  • 215 Oldgit1 // May 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    A BIG THANK YOU to all you bloggers who have made my retirement bearable and also enjoyable.

    I have enjoyed your comments opinuins, arguments fights infact you have all lighted my life that bit more.

    To ED, thanks for all the subjects you have posted to enable fans to react to and long may it continue.

    I am told that the older you get the more chance that dementia sets in and according to my wife family and friends I’m well on my way so thought a word of thanks before my mind fully goes. Hopefully not yet.

    I have supported the toon all my life I can recall the sad times and the good times but have always thought that we have under achieved in my lifetime. We have on many occasions had it in our grasp just to see it being filtered away by either the selling or the changing of a manager.

    I do believe that our team is cursed and are destined to be a poor run club either from the owners, managers and players. I can’t see the current crop changing the face of our great club who have the most passionate of fans in the world who have over the years been taken for granted and in my opinuin will always will be.

    You would think in over 50 years we would have more than only a fairs cup, a very poor return for the money I and many other aged supporters have paid out, that’s not including the forking out for merchandise from the club shop not just for me but also my children
    and grandchildren so that the family tradition of following this club continues. It also means that I am guilty of passing on the Newcastle united curse to them.

    It’s too late for me. As I’m a supporter until I die, yes, I still hope that my team will win something and I will continue to support the lads and the manager whoever it is. It’s my life it’s what I do.
    Hwtl

  • 216 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Sack Llambias…thanks for clarifying!

    …I took offense too quickly I see :)

  • 217 Big Pappa Cissé // May 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Keep digging that hole Pardew son. With any luck he will be gone by the end of the .week and we wont have to listen to anymore excuses week after week

  • 218 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    thing is with martinez, he lacks ideas on defensive side of the game, hes similar to pardew in his limitations however his strengths are attacking, both managers tend to leave their teams unbalanced! If you take swansea for example, Martinez set the groundworks, but it was under Sousa that they started winning those gritty games that they were losing under RM! Rodgers kind of brought both managers style together to be successful! At wigan Martinez took a solid team and made them 17th place battlers! Under Bruce wigan looked a far more solid side although were less attractive to watch! Martinez also wasted alot of what transfer budget wigan ever gave him, pretty sure 8m Mauro Boselli is their record signing and to wigan 8m is a huge amount! Would hate to see him at Newcastle to be honest, hes too tactically naive! If you look at the player for player squads, id argue wigan were stronger than Norwich, Stoke and sunderland whilst southampton and villa rely alot on inexperienced young players! Don’t think the job he has done has been that impressive, they regressed in his first season and they stayed stagnate in his next 2 seasons before being relegated….

  • 219 Sack Llambias // May 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Jesper
    Good one. Be good to sign off and not be accused by Ruddy of being Kevy Martens .

  • 220 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    JB…it will be a gamble, but one I would gladly take!

    …Benitez would be a gamble as well ’cause I don’t see either MA or Benitez seing eye to eye on anything (a ticking time bomb and I don’t think we need that right now).

    Liverpool took a gamble on Rodgers as you say (have paid off I think) and Swansea took a gamble on Laudrup, which seems to be a match made in heaven. Club vision and manager’s football philosophy fits like a glove :)

    I might be a bit blinded here because I genuinely like Martinez brand of football and it correspondences well with my own thinking!

  • 221 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Sack Llambias…I try to be fair and do apologies if I accuse someone wrongly ;) lol

  • 222 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    jayphoto

    Martinez would be a gamble no doubt as its all ‘ifs’ buts’ and ‘maybes’ whereas we know exactly what we’re gonna get from Pardew ‘Wasn’t me Gov, it’s not my fault’.

    Liverpool wanted him, Everton seemingly want him now so is he good enough for them but not good enough for us?

    Are we being snob’s by thinking that we are too good for him or are we deluded by thinking that we deserve someone who is at the top of the game?

  • 223 Agent Stardust // May 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Sorry to tell you this. They are all smiling and happy and 100% Pardew is not leaving. They are having a long meeting about the way forward.

    Carroll apparently not even being discussed. It’s back to the same old stuff. Not much money and anybody coming in will be for small money as in the past. Shrewd signings they are continuing with.

    And that’s from somebody very trustworthy and I shouldn’t even write it on here. Although he said he wasn’t bothered if I did LOL.

  • 224 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    @jesper – completely agree the manager needs to completely comply with a clubs philosophy! Thats exactly the problem we have at the moment as I don’t believe Carr and Pardew have the same ideas on the clubs philosophy and play on the pitch! Its also the reason i’m hoping for Rene Girard as manager as Montpellier have a very similar set up to ours ie: don’t like to spend money, want to focus on young players with sell on value, awful working conditions set by the powers above (chairman), a fans demand for attractive football and low low wages

  • 225 qtoon // May 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    I hope we don’t end up paying over the odds for Andy Carroll.
    I’d rather it went towards the signing of one of:
    Dries Mertens, Giorginio Wijnaldum or Siem De Jong

    Aubameyang, Wilfried Bony or Loic Remy

    Along with Viktor Fischer from Ajax and a RB in the mould of Haidara. A CB if colo leaves. Oh, and a GK to replace Harper.
    Christ we’ve got some work to do this summer!

  • 226 Barras // May 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    We have seen countless, ‘Who was Newcastle United’s best player against [...]‘ polls, but yet a ‘Should Newcastle United sack Alan Pardew?’ poll has not been created – why?

  • 227 toon kk // May 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    It’s quite obvious Pardew can’t see his own mistakes, every one can see them but him. I would love to ask him his logic behind it. I know the team badly needs strikers and more Pace. Imo half the team arnt good enough anyway. Pardews an old school manager so he’s not gonna change and unfortunately were stuck with him there’s no way he’ll be sacked so get used to it.

  • 228 Ballad of a Geordie // May 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Whats all the talk about Pardew getting sacked like?

    I’ve never seen us play better football under anyone else.
    He’s a world class manager, the table is just upside down

  • 229 Agent Stardust // May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Sorry to tell you this. They are all smiling and happy and 100% Pardew is not leaving. They are having a long meeting about the way forward.

    Carroll apparently not even being discussed. It’s back to the same old stuff. Not much money and anybody coming in will be for small money as in the past. Shrewd signings they are continuing with.

    And that’s from somebody very trustworthy and I shouldn’t even write it on here. Although he said he wasn’t bothered if I did LOL.

    In addition.
    Carr has said Bony is simply not good enough and that was back in January.

    Apparently there were 5 people at the first meeting behind closed doors but following that its all smiles and jokes. There are now 17 people in for the next meeting. I’m getting texts every hour or so.

  • 230 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    @Jackbutler – Liverpool did claim rodgers was their first choice so not sure how much truth there was in their interest! Regarding Everton, If Martinez takes over there, or even at stoke and turns them into good sides who are challenging the top 6/7 i’ll hold my hands up, just for me his sides always look tactically naive and defensively poor over the course of a season and ive had enough of poor tactics to last me a life time lol

  • 231 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    @jayphoto @jesperfuglsang

    Part of the story of Swansea last night was with the now Chairman who said that they select their managers to fit the clubs philosophy and therefor take a chance as they don’t go for the ‘Big Name’ option.

    Martinex, Sousa, Rodger and Laudrup all fit with who they want the team to play and that has brought consistency and stability as they have the same approach to the game and want it played in the same manner.

    We on the other hand have always taken the cheapest option under Ashley bringing in men with different approaches and styles and have consequently limped from one season to the next

  • 232 Novocastrian66 // May 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Bloody hell oldgit, you had me worried there mate, I thought that was going to be a suicide note!

  • 233 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    jayphoto

    I’m not advocating bringing in Martinez as such it’s just we need a clear vision from Ashley over our philosophy from our managers as I posted @229

  • 234 NUFC_LEAZES END // May 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    If pardew gets sacked before the start of next season I will run around newcastle naked then get on the bus to the stadium of light and picture myself having a poo right outside their stadium ;)

  • 235 Novocastrian66 // May 22, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Leazes. Forget about the streaking bit, just go and have a shit in Sunderland. You probably won’t get the chance to do the second thing if you do the first thing first.

  • 236 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    @JackButler – completely agree! the annoying thing is, Pards isn’t even the cheapest option! I’d take beardsley over Pardew, the youth team played good football under him and the reserves also play some really nice stuff! Experience is becoming less and less important, there are alot of young, very good and very qualified coaches out there with ideas on how to play a certain way that would accept a low wage and low transfer budget for a chance to manage in the premier league! One that comes to mind off hand is dennis bergkamp! If you look at teams who have taken that chance, ATH Madrid with Simeone, Barca with Villanova etc, these managers might be low in managerial experience but they all played for great managers, have new ideas on tactics and coaching that fits the modern game and more importantly have actual experience in winning things!

  • 237 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Thanks for that, NUFC LEAZES :D

  • 238 mindshaft // May 22, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    kinel – us toon fans must have a witches curse on us all – which one of you lot have been oot breaking all the mirrors every 6 1/2 years ya barstewards

    cursed to death – shitfookwankpiss

  • 239 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    jayphoto

    Exactly mate, but in taking on say someone like Poyet or Martinez there will always be an element of risk but that risk for me is a lot less than sticking with Pardew.

    Martinez would get our players playing football and wouldn’t stifle them like Pardew does, Keegan wasn’t a master tactician, in fact we were a complete mess defensively, but he always had us playing good football because he allowed that freedom of play, because he had that trust in his players.

    For me it seems that Pardew doesn’t trust the players and therefor doesn’t allow them to express themselves and we in turn are served up poor, dour football.

    So do we take that chance and at least try to play good passing football or do we restrict the players we have

  • 240 mindshaft // May 22, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Us toon fans must have a witches curse on us all – which one of you lot have been oot breaking all the mirrors every 6 1/2 years ya barstewards

    cursed to the grave I tell ya – sh1tf00kw@nkcatsp1ss

  • 241 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Oldgit1,
    May you enjoy your retirement you Oldgit1! Don’t worry, in the next 50 years we will win something so you’ll be around!

  • 242 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Jayphoto…I have been voicing the same lately about our situation regarding Carr scouting and recommending a set of players (players I really rate) to a manager who plays a completely different brand of football!

    …my biggest concern about this is that Pardew is oblivion to the fact that he plays 4-5-1 and not 4-3-3 :)

    I don’t know much about Rene Girard, but have heard lots of good things about him from other bloggers. He seems to fit our profile no doubt :)

  • 243 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Jayphoto,
    Was wondering why Beardsley, arguably in our top 3 best ever, hasn’t ‘graduated’ to higher mgmt levels. Does he have the whatever credentials they need these days?

  • 244 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    yeah completely agree! To be honest, id love to see what keegan would have made of this squad! Its the most talented squad of talent we’ve had in a long time, we’re good enough to go and beat teams by attacking them for 90 minutes, honestly think Pardew lacks the balls to manage a big club with expectations! He seems to look at away days to teams like QPR and reading and hopes to contain and snatch a point of a narrow win! We need a manager that sees an away day next season at Hull or Cardiff and sees a poorer side that we can get at and smash! His poor confidence in the players may come from the fact that he has no say in what players sign… in that case he’s not the man for our system

  • 245 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    This Girard dude pulled a small (well big) miracle last year, but not this, right? Same as Pards :)

  • 246 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    to be honest, asides from his age, know one has watched our players more and has more idea about them than Graham Carr, I wouldn’t even complain if we made him manager and let him buy who he wants! Least hes watched them enough to know that Gouffran is a striker, jonas can’t play left back, Sissoko is a defensive midfielder etc….

  • 247 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Fumaca, well said son, Pardew employs tactics to keep himself in a job, and excuses to satisfy his bosses!

  • 248 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Ha ha hhhhhaaaaaarrrrrr! Some nugget posted here a week or so ago the reason they KNEW for a FACT! Colo was on his way was because his house was up for sale. Slight problem. He rents the place he lives in at the moment.

    I’m not saying he aint leavin’ but the house sale one is a complete load of clack.

  • 249 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    @cyprus- as far as i know Beardo has all the qualifications etc? he’s manager of our u21 side, play some great stuff they do too! Uses campbells pace to stretch defenses, the season before he had Vuckic playing the beardo role, i know its only reserve team football but the lad looked world class!

  • 250 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    jesperfuglsang

    We have Anita, Cabaye, Marveuax, HBA Gouffran Sissoko all brought in by Carr, all ball playing midfielders, all given to Pardew and all stifled in the way he has us play.

    Carr is wasting his time and efforts scouting players for Pardew as when they are brought in they are wasted. Just as Ashley is wasting his money

    We have the scout, we have the players the one thing we don’t have is the manager who can used those players properly

  • 251 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    JB…I actually think we have taken the more expensive approach by employing managers who we subsequently sack and have to pay off and appointing a new manager who gets a big transfers kiddy (and cannot use the players brought in by the former manager)

    I believe a club should do as the Lyon. Their CEO never gives a new manager any transfer funds when appointed. He says it’s a waste of money :)

    Totally agree (pretty sure clubs like Citeh, Chelsea among others would disagree)

  • 252 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    ticket sales down 30,000 crowds he soon be out on his ar5e

  • 253 Toon-82 // May 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    What are the latest odds on a new manager for us?

  • 254 John Tudor // May 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    no-one wishes to see pap footy

  • 255 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Cyprus – check jayphotos assessment of my very same question on Girard. If Pardew had the same problems as Girard had (they still finished 8th btw) we would be at the bottom of the Championship by default already!

  • 256 Toon-82 // May 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Anyone know the odds or Pardew staying or going?

  • 257 WWYCD // May 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Beardo for manager? Please no bigger yes man than Pards and no better manager, lets leave the memories alone

    If Pards leaves we need a good manager to come in to replace him and bring better for NUFC ideally someone in it for the long term who has experience in bringing on young teams

  • 258 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Agent, I can prob believe you , yea all smiles and handshkes, battle plans drawn up for next season , with Horatio Pardew at the helm, im very near the conclusion that as long as we are in the prem it will suffice, im so not at this very moment looking forward to the season ahead. totally f.cked with it all.

  • 259 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    John Tudor @249 I hate to ask but where exactly did you just pull that info from ? :|

  • 260 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Jesper @ 248 – ‘transfers kiddy’? THATS where the problem is – we have been leaving the transfer business to a child and not a trusty octogenarian!

  • 261 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    John Tudor, I have stuck up for MA for years, I still think we will make investments player wise, but the manager has brought me down another level, we have a decent squad of players. Pardew doies not know how to use them, completely void of tactical awareness. AP is the birdflu!

  • 262 JackButler // May 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    WWYCD

    agree mate, we need someone who can take what we already have and get the best out of them while taking the youngsters and bring them alone enough so that they move up into the 1st team squad.

    Perch apart not one single player has improved under Pardew and while most have gone backwards and thats a damning indictment of his reign here

  • 263 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Tsunki,
    :)
    Wonder what our French players think of him. Who’s played for him, Mbiwa?
    And,
    Who would take HBA to the next level? Loved the couple of cameos vs. the Arsenal! That (and goals) is what we need next year.

  • 264 check the toastie // May 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Pardew is not getting sacked and Ashley is a Pr#ck.

    Repeat over and over again until you come to the conclusion that the piss is truly being taken out of you.

    Gutted.

    Will not go next year if Pardew is in charge. This season has been an embarrassment, and nobody at the club is bothered, why should i be.

  • 265 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    …and yes, for the likes of perennial dimwit mot7 it was a joke for impact I now mr carr is not that old. Its crap when you have to explain even the most banal craic.

  • 266 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    JB…you are going to find me disagreeing with you anytime soon mate ;) lol

  • 267 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Chunks, your a level headed poster, some of us go on the boil as you know, are you happy with AP for next 7 seasons, yes or no will do?

  • 268 jayphoto // May 22, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    I don’t understand fans who blame MA for not backing Pardew in the transfer market to be honest! we’ve got the strongest squad we’ve had for a long time! Strong enough for 6m dutch internationals to not even make the squad of 18 some weeks…..

  • 269 magpiemover // May 22, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    pardew at it again opening his stupid mouth y carnt he shut the f up , the sooner he goner the better all he does is make me angry

  • 270 danuneek // May 22, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Pardew won’t be sacked so may as well get behind the club.

  • 271 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    cyprus – I dont really like wiki’ing and googling stuff like that, prefer ‘on-the-ground’ opinions from bloggers, but from what I recall he coached the French international youngsters and many of todays stars have run by him in the past, I think he probably knows better than most what our current crop’s capabilities are. For that reason alone I would have absolutely no worries if he replaced Pards.

  • 272 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Tsunki…I had to look the word “octogenarian” up and I still not sure what it means :D lol

    …and who is the child in this scenario? (which of the three stooges?)

  • 273 boater // May 22, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Pardew’s rhetoric has been insulting. Mid-season whilst losing every week he was pressed into a corner, but now the season is finished he needs to be honest about how bad we’ve been. In an interview last week he said, the fan’s expectations are part of the problem, and now he’s campaigning for 11th placed finishes.

    The reality is we’ll have injuries again, and should be doing everything we can to aim for Europe – so neither of these wash at all.

    Also, his comment that a wretched season is good for the kids is nonsense. The top teams are able to bring through kids because the environment is winning and stable, our academy kids end up in the lower divisions and the SPL – apart from under Hughton’s reign notably.

  • 274 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Does anyone know, has Cisse played in the past with a partner up front? Can he do the one twos (e.g. with Gouffran, HBA) or is he a lone predator by nature?

  • 275 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    beefman @264 – hang on, just let me put my box of Krispy Kremes down…. right ok AP for the next 7 years?

    Short answer – NO.
    Longer answer – Yes, with reservations about performance – he would have to start the first third of the coming season well with convincing performances from his best team. If not, cut the rope before we all go with him.

  • 276 WWYCD // May 22, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    JB
    Ideally aye reality we will get a manager on par with Pards if he leaves.

    Jayphoto
    If u don’t improve u go backwards in the PL imo. We stood still last summer because of Ashley and the rot started, u vein in a striker, winger and a CB last summer for the first team and this past season would of been a heck of a lot better

  • 277 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Jay, I agree we have international players all over the gaff, but they are looking ordinary, I know a few need to settle more, but they are getting played out of position, most of the time and it is bound to unsettle them, as you say Anita virtually abandoned, mostly to fit a shocka in Jonas in every game, Jonas on the teamsheet before gouffrani suspect???? Yea PARDEW LIKES HIS GRAFTERS, just like he was when he played! could not get to another level other than palace and that’s his level as a manager at the very most, I would genuinely have ian Holloway rather than Pardew he knows how to play the football we crave at the toon.

  • 278 WWYCD // May 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Get in not vein sorry

  • 279 cyprus // May 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    jesperfuglsang – captain of the lemon crew,
    I take it you don’t know Greek :)

  • 280 beefman13 // May 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    So chunks, that’s xmas then, I would like him gone now, but I will give it till xmas as well, I really feel we need a top coach head hunted to work with him, I just cannot tolerate his tactics of make sure we don’t loose, always backfires that sort of pony.

  • 281 lesh // May 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Ah ha! Agent Stardust, you’ve blown your cover wearing that blonde wig and carrying an A-Z of the toon. You vill now be expelled and stripped of your credentials!

  • 282 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Jesper @268 – ‘Kiddie’ is a colloquialism (ah thats not helping is it?)for a child. You said ‘kiddy’ instead of ‘kitty’ which, apart from being another term for a small cat (are you keeping up ha ha ?) is like a dedicated fund, modest treasury chest or money box, which is what I think you meant.

    Octogenarian is someone who is in their 80′s. It was a hyperbole ah damn keep on digging Tsunki….

  • 283 Marv-over-jonas // May 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Imagine if we got Girard as manager and he brought Belhanda with him… But just hope we can get a new manager..

  • 284 Toon-82 // May 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    So as Pardew see’s it

    Cisse out-Carlton cole in
    Cabaye out- Reo Coker in
    Collo out- Tompkins in

    It’s the same players who got West Ham into the premier league that he wants in!!

  • 285 boater // May 22, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    I don’t think there’s anything amiss with Pardew choosing Jonas every game. His 6 week absence coincided with our worst spell of the season – when we lost 7 out of 9, and for all his lack of a final ball, he is always showing for the ball, and uses his experience to alleviate the pressure – and rarely gives the ball away. The alternatives such as Marveaux, Anita etc. have been very inconsistent. I’m happy that Jonas is replaced in the future, but find it naive the way people have press ganged (Williamson style) against him when we were floundering all over the pitch.

  • 286 Beattie25 // May 22, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    From Sky sports:

    Stats show Newcastle United had the most easily breached defence in the Premier League – and the competition’s dirtiest player.

    Opponents needed an average of just 6.6 shots to score against Alan Pardew’s underwhelming side.

    In comparisson, Chelsea required an average of 11.3 shots per goal, making them the Premier League’s most resilient team.

    Newcastle United also conceded the highest proportion of second hand goals in the Premier League, with 66% of goals conceded arriving in the second half.

    This happened in seven out of Newcastle United’s last ten games.

    And the most frequent fouler (of all players with 1,000+ minutes on the pitch) was Newcastle’s Cheick Tiote, who was penalised every 31 minutes on average.

  • 287 toon kk // May 22, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    One of MA biggest mistakes was getting rid of C.H. im sure he would have us playing much better with the team we have now. He was treat like shit just to bring in his great pal Pards to be his yes man.

  • 288 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    boater @280 – well put, that has been a hard corner to fight. Happily most of his outspoken detractors have been flagrantly uninformed nuggets so nothing spoiling there ha ha. The rest have rightly pulled Jonas up for some of the mares he has had, and he’s had one or two no mistake – but in fairness, we can trace a thin line all the way back to team tactics…….

    Beattie – Tiote is definitely brawn over style. Toning his brutality down just to keep him on the grass seriously opens the flaws in his genral play. I sort of like the lad but the Tank jokes dont hide the fact he is one of our more expendable players. Bigi for me is a more refined version, more innate skill and more brain. Theres a player quietly destined to be a good squad man if I ever saw one.

  • 289 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    lesh @281 – Stardy in the house? What did I miss ?

  • 290 santonthenewmaldini // May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    So is he gone yet ?

    See thats Caroll injured again ? Maybe we can get him at a further discount now possibly 7 million ha ha

    Would not be surprised if we keep Pardew and our 1st signings are Puncheon and Cole on free transfers…. To be honest both of them are upgrades on Ameobi and Obertan?

  • 291 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    I just played the MOTD from the last day, and their season review montage is basically a collection of goals against us. Lazy, Lazy sportscasting. :)

  • 292 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    According to the Sun, Rafa has been offered a job at Stoke? Hmm let me s – NO.

  • 293 Toon Tang // May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    oh my god i wake up to this shit

  • 294 boater // May 22, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    I do miss Hughton at the helm. Re-watching highlights of games under him reminded me of the buzz at watching the team back then- we lost a few but capitulated to no one. He set us up to play to our strengths, attack without fear and yet we were defensively stronger at the same time – everyone pulling together.

    Best of all, Hughton backed the young players to become 1st team regulars. Interesting to think what he would have done with the likes of Cabaye, Sissoko and Benny.

  • 295 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Sorry Toon Tang, I start to run out of ideas about this time. :)

  • 296 Toon Tang // May 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    beattie 286, tiote hardly chuffin played, hows he top of that list? he must have been making up for lost time or summat my gosh

  • 297 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Wassssssuuuuup bloggies?

    Miss much?

  • 298 Toon Tang // May 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    tsunki hahah i like what you did there, but seriously pards excuses are merciless

  • 299 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Ibiza…. apparently the same as 6 months ago is ‘up’ :D

  • 300 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    So, Pards to give Anita more game time this season? Who’s going then?

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/anita-promised-key-role-at-newcastle-next-season-1-5693877

    Boater – given that it was all hands to the pump this season, don’t you think it odd with our striker shortage that he didn’t trust Campbell with more meaningful game time? Especially in the nothing game against Arsenal when Cisse was having a dog of a day. What was the point of a final five minutes?

  • 301 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Tang….I think it’s taken as an average based on minutes played. Someone could come on as a sub in one game for 10 minutes, commit two fouls and be credited as making a foul every 5 minutes over the season.

    That’s not applicable to wor Tiote of course, he fouls people just by looking at them ;)

  • 302 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Ibiza – its the same as when you went away. 6 months ago. :D

  • 303 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Mark…Really? I find that odd, was certain to come back on and find things had moved on. Oh well!

  • 304 Tsunki // May 22, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    ooh ooh another article this way everyone….dont dawdle….this is going to be a hoot!

  • 305 Ibizatoon - Back By Popular Demand // May 22, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Tsunki…Okay, that’s two 6 month references, am I missing something? Has it really been six months? Swear I was on earlier today…I think?

    Who am I again?

  • 306 Markaccus // May 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    You know….. A LOT of people knew, when they saw the title of this article, that it was, without doubt, going to really p1ss them off. Yet, they still read it, and proceded to whinge epically about it. What do you want? Sympathy? You only have yourselves to blame :p :D

  • 307 estechco // May 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    If, as appears increasingly likely, we are sticking with AP for the foreseeable future, what do people think about Beardo being promoted to our ‘offensive’ coach? Hopefully then he can get the best out of our attacking options whilst AP spends 4 days on the defence!?!

  • 308 Indian Magpie // May 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Bet all you Pardew supporters will be fed up by the time pre season Finishes

  • 309 martoon // May 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Tsunki @ 291 – Yes I noticed that when I was watching it last Sunday night – to be fair there were quite a lot to choose from :) In balance Ben Arfa’s goal was a candidate for goal of the season.

  • 310 spitfire_ // May 22, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Any truth about today’s press conference?

  • 311 pollypeterborough // May 22, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    This man never sissies to amuses me.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • 312 pollypeterborough // May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Pardew that is.

  • 313 El Sleeve // May 22, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    omg is that or real? he used a different set of players in the europa league, only used the same players in the knockout stages.

    honestly, that is shocking. this habitual knack of dressing up the dog’s dinner he made of all our games is probably the only good thing ashley will see in him.

    honestly tho, every excuses can be blown out of the water by a simple fact. it was europa – no, u used different players. we had injuries – so does everyone else. i didnt have all my regulars playing – when only 1 or 2 were missing, yet he played the rest out of position.

    if this is what he’ll be telling mika ashley, what will he think? please please please see what we all see, the man is not suited to NUFC

  • 314 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Tsunki…I didn’t even realize I made the “kiddie” mistake ;) lol

    …I really need to brush up on the advanced English words!

    Cyprus…and even Greek or Latin words ;)

  • 315 dcdick // May 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    It’s always “somebody else’e fault”…………….goodbye, your time is up !!




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