Newcastle Are Top Of The Long Ball League


With Tony Pulis leaving Stoke City yesterday, there has been some topical discussion of what Stoke does best – playing the long ball – but when you look at which team attempted most long passes last season, there could be  a surprise..

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Alan Pardew – has Newcastle top of the long ball league

Stoke are only  half way in the league table in 10th pace, and yes, you guessed it, Newcastle are at the top with most long passes attempted last season.

This is one reason why there is some discontent growing with Alan Pardew as manager, and it’s not like we don’t have flair players like Ben Arfa, Sylvain Marveaux, Yoan Gouffran and Papiss Cisse and the like, but of course they were out injured a lot last season.

Fulham and Wigan are the next in the table, and at the bottom there’s Manchester City and Arsenal but 3rd bottom are QPR – who were relegated – and that;s a bit of a surprise.

Here’s the list of long passes attempted last season in the Premier League by each team:

Newcastle 2,283
Fulham 2,131
Wigan 2,047
Everton 2,042
Liverpool 2,041
Tottenham 2,028
Swansea 2,024
Chelsea 2,003
Norwich 1,995
Stoke 1,989
Man United 1,968
Sunderland 1,952
West Ham 1,901
Aston Villa 1,893
West Brom 1,889
Reading 1,855
Southampton 1,826
QPR 1,800
Arsenal 1,755
Man City 1,611

Hopefully the way Newcastle are going to play the game will also have been discussed today in the meeting  with owner Mike Ashley – and we should monitor where we are in this league to ensure  we are playing good football  – and we cut out this hoofing the ball into the penalty box  – so to speak.

One of the reasons Sam Allardyce was fired in January, 2008 was for the way he had Newcastle playing – which was too defensively and without any flair at all – and too much of the long ball.

What do you think?

Note – one of our readers Laszlo Csanyi – magpies86@gmail.com – started his own website on Newcastle in Hungary a few years ago – and he is looking for somebody who lives in Newcastle and could provide the website a weekly or monthly article. Laszlo says the Hungarian fans would love to read something from a fan who lives in Newcastle, and he would do the translation – If you are interested please contact Laszlo at magpies86@gmail.com – thanks.

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123 comments so far

  • Bambams

    May 22, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Nothing really stands out….

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  • Bambams

    May 22, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Comment #2

    Actually at the beginning of the season did Pardew not spout out “we want to keep more possession of the ball during the games”

    I am sure I heard some interview he gave that he wanted more players comfortable on the ball.

    Man of his words…not

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  • Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness

    May 22, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Comment #3

    Ok so Wigan and Liverpool who play “better football” are both high up the long ball table?

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #5

    Not only are we top of that unwanted list there, we sit back and let the opposite team attack us. That’s bad enough, but with our players it’s unacceptable. And there’s still people who don’t want him to go? I wonder what it would take for mindsets to change?

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  • alex84

    May 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #6

    Pardew will talk about how he likes to play football the right way, but by god he has the most direct playing style there is, no wonder the likes of Cabaye etc are pi$$ed off, then some people have the cheek to call him average.
    Pardew directs the team, simple, get rid.

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  • Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness

    May 22, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #7

    Oh and spurs and people’s favourite manager laudrup has his team high up there too

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  • stopper

    May 22, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #8

    Bambara
    Agreed . Nothing that Pardew says ever seems to stand up to scrutiny. History appears to always come and bite the man in in the a?se which further erodes his credibility to take the club forward.

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  • northernirishtoon

    May 22, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #9

    Tis might sound a silly question but what actually constitutes a ‘long ball’

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  • dcdick

    May 22, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #10

    Is he still here then ?

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  • yo-yo

    May 22, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #11

    So anybody wanting:

    Jol or Martinez or admiring Brendan AVB and Moyes are also ‘long ball’ fans.

    2283 = 60 a game, and Swans (a so called passing side) average 53.6 which is only one long pass more every 14 minutes.
    These figures are a bit of a joke – they show nothing really….

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  • jordijohnty

    May 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #12

    Lee Clark favourite to be next manager. Ffs.. Have a word with Huddersfield and Brummie fans and see what they think of him. Geordie managers are not the way forward. For every sir bobby, there’s a jack charlton or alan shearer

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  • Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness

    May 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #13

    @northernirishtoon I have the same question. A pinpoint Gerrard pass? Cabaye with a fantastic ball from 40 yards onto ba’s head?

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  • Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness

    May 22, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #14

    @yoyo precisely. Proves nowt. High ball figures however might show morr

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    May 22, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #15

    To all those who want him to stay, why, there is evidence time and time again that he is a chump who doesn’t know anything about football

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  • stuart no9

    May 22, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #16

    top of the long ball list ! and does anybody know how many goals we scored from those thousands of long balls ????

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  • jordijohnty

    May 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #17

    Steve mclaren and gus poyet? wtf? and why is alan curbishley always in the running for every job. when was the last time he was managing a decent club. what next? ron atkinson!

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  • WWYCD

    May 22, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #18

    If Arsenal get the 4th place trophy can we have the long ball one? Just a thought

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 22, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #19

    More pointless stats. As others have pointed out, what constitutes a long ball? Change that criteria a little and we could be at the other end of the table. Stats are easily manipulated.

    Also, at just 10% less you can find Wigan, Swansea, Liverpool, Spurs etc. If you said that we only have approx. 10% more long balls than those teams, nobody would complain.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 22, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Comment #20

    Someone posted the other day that a long ball stat was that a ball travels over 25yards constitutes a long ball.

    It does skew the way things are interpreted for other teams, even ourselves.

    However, what is simple to understand, without the use of stats is that when we sit back we knock the ball long for Cisse who is all on his own, then the ball will make its way back to out wall of players who are hanging back near out own 18 yard line as hardly any are pushing forward, never mind nosebleed stuff like overlapping.

    When Shola comes on the ball is fired up to him.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    May 22, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #21

    We are already top of the league for Long Balls, if we buy Carroll it will only encourage this and get worse!

    Although Carroll is a local lad and can play a bit on the deck he is NOT what we need to make the most of the players we now have.

    That is so obvious and it puzzles me how so many supporters of good tiki-taka football with pass and move want him back especially after he initially left us for the money.

    Carroll will only invite long balls!! Can’t people see this!?? I hate that style of play and it’s something we are trying to get away from.

    We need pace and creativity upfront. A player that can dribble and make space and make key passes and finish.

    That is what we need and PEA and Gameiro are the targets we should be going for and not Carroll ffs.

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  • kevymartins

    May 22, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #22

    @Jp we mide as well get carroll the way we are playing because if we was in are squad this year he would have converted a lot more of them long balls than anybody else in the team.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    May 22, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #23

    Also Carroll for 15M is way too much! I would not go over 9M. He hasn’t lit the world with his goals either in Liverpool or West Ham and is injury prone.

    I would much rather prefer Wilfried Bony over Carroll any day.

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  • Schwefelberg

    May 22, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #24

    There is a goldmine of data in there if you look. For example,

    The others are more grouped around the mean

    The spread in long balls between the rest is low YET ours is 152 MORE long balls than Fulham our CLOSEST LONG BALL NEIHGBOUR.

    The next biggest spread is between Man City and Arsenal IN THE OPPOSITE END OF THE TABLE.

    We are the outlier in this data.

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  • Bambams

    May 22, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #25

    It is quite interesting – if true ! Pardew suggests we would be interested in resigning Carroll yet the next day the ‘Club announced we will not be signing Carroll’….. This continuity/stability works well….

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 22, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #26

    @TaylorR1984: Few right, the long rod has just been removed out of my tibia from when I broke it in 2006. Weird looking at it, as it was in there 7yrs

    Poor old tayls the lad has had no luck with injuries!!

    Why are people talking about Carroll again? He’s not coming here, he doesn’t play here move on ppl

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  • northernirishtoon

    May 22, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #27

    Jp

    We are doing a good job trying to get away from long balls consider we are top of the long ball list

    West ham are way down and they have had Carroll all year bar some he missed with injury

    Nothing and no one can make us play hoof ball more than what we do. The problem is we are so ineffective at it. At least if we are going to play it, the likes of Carroll would drastically improve it

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  • AMEOBI

    May 22, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #28

    Has pardew been sacked yet?

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  • donkey

    May 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #29

    well doesnt look like were going to get CARROLL now PEA no danger of getting him now to many big clubs after him WIFRED BONY carr has alrready said were not interested in him. This summer doesnt look good for nufc

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #30

    @indykaila: New website hope to go live tonight is http://t.co/v6nZPbhFqP and will have small update for #AFC and #NUFC fans as well.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 22, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #31

    ameobi

    sadly not.

    my remaining hope has all but been extinguished now. it would have happend by now

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #32

    People are talking about Carroll because he’s a young English striker who would love to come back and play for our club. The problem is that he’s seemingly injury prone, has a £15m price tag and is on high wages.

    Some clubs are willing to spend this amount of money for a striker like this, but we don’t seem to be one of those.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #33

    Consider that Fletcher went to the mackems for £15m. I’d rather have Carroll than him

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  • Le Belfast 007

    May 22, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #34

    So was this meeting today or tomorrow or what ?? Anybody know for sure ?

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  • AMEOBI

    May 22, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #35

    Tads, keep updated on that please!

    Rotonda, well I’m waiting for the martinez one to be told haha, hazzy1 said it i think

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 22, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #36

    The odd long pass a la Hoddle where he landed it on a sixpence is great, but if you’re doing it non – stop like Pardew it’s just sailing over our midfield’s heads all the time and putting them out of the game. Stoke’s fans have finally been put out of their misery. No such luck for us.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 22, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #37

    Carrol and Pardew = hoofball and our best players leaving

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #38

    TDS
    Who says he’d love to come back? After the way he claims dekka and ash treated him?
    Or is because of random statements from ‘sources’ close to him?

    Carroll has never said he’d love to come back, infact he’s stated numerous times he wants to stay at Liverpool
    West ham have had a bid accepted, he likes it there, we’ve ruled out a move
    He’s not coming back just like pardews not getting fired

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  • yo-yo

    May 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #39

    Funny thing is that Moyes has always included long balls in his sides’ tactics and look where it’s got him.

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  • northernirishtoon

    May 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #40

    Apparently decision, if any, to be made on pards by Friday lunch time

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